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| license: apache-2.0 | |
| base_model: Shockem/Qwen3.8-27b-Terse-Coder | |
| base_model_relation: quantized | |
| tags: | |
| - reasoning | |
| - coding | |
| - qwen3 | |
| - nvfp4 | |
| - modelopt | |
| # Qwen3.8-27B Terse-Coder — NVFP4 | |
| NVFP4 (modelopt W4A16) quantization of | |
| [Shockem/Qwen3.8-27b-Terse-Coder](https://huggingface.co/Shockem/Qwen3.8-27b-Terse-Coder), | |
| a fine-tune of [Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B](https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B) | |
| with **~1/10 the chain-of-thought reasoning tokens on coding tasks and | |
| correctness preserved**. This is the tested deployment artifact — every | |
| number below was measured on this checkpoint. | |
| > **Actively researched and improving.** Expect updated quants on this page | |
| > as the study continues. | |
| ## Results | |
| Held-out 40 coding problems (20 HumanEval + 20 MBPP-sanitized, disjoint from | |
| training), vLLM 0.28 on 2× RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB, MTP spec decode on, sampling | |
| temp 0.6 / top_k 20 / top_p 0.95 / rep-penalty 1.05, pass@1 by automated | |
| test execution: | |
| | Model (all NVFP4) | pass@1 | Reasoning tokens / problem | Wall tok/s | | |
| |---|---|---|---| | |
| | nvidia/Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4 (stock) | 72.5% | ~701 | 54.1 | | |
| | **This model** | **67.5%** | **~38 (−95%)** | **54.5** | | |
| Runs at stock-base wall speed with MTP acceptance 0.412 — the reasoning cut | |
| is free end-to-end. **Independent benchmarks** (NVFP4 quant, vLLM 0.28, thinking on, house | |
| sampling; reasoning = `completion_tokens_details.reasoning_tokens`): | |
| | Benchmark | Score | Reasoning tokens (mean / median) | | |
| |---|---|---| | |
| | GSM8K (n=200) | **98.0%** | 84 / 72 | | |
| | GPQA-Diamond (full 198) | **78.3%** | 1,485 / 969 | | |
| | CRUXEval-I (full 800, input prediction) | **92.1%** | 197 / 83 | | |
| | CRUXEval-O (full 800, output prediction) | **92.9%** | 146 / 96 | | |
| | HumanEval+ (164, official EvalPlus, greedy) | **90.2%** (93.9% base) | 43 / 28 | | |
| | MBPP+ (378, official EvalPlus, greedy) | **78.6%** (92.9% base) | 91 / 25 | | |
| CRUXEval was run with the official Meta harness (direct prompts, official | |
| extraction, exec-based scoring, temp 0.2) — code *understanding* | |
| (input/output prediction), complementing the generation-side coding table | |
| above. | |
| A note on GPQA-Diamond: this is where a terseness fine-tune is *supposed* | |
| to bleed — PhD-level science, far outside the coding training distribution, | |
| where long deliberation is the whole game. Holding **78.3%** at ~1.5k mean | |
| reasoning tokens (thinking models typically burn 10–20k here) means the | |
| training cut the *deliberation budget*, not the *capability* — the model | |
| still scales effort up on hard problems (median 969 → max 16k) instead of | |
| answering blindly fast. | |
| **Internal agentic harness** (30 tests across easy/medium/hard — instruction | |
| following, coding, reasoning, compaction handoff, tool/JSON contracts — | |
| ×10 runs each, this checkpoint served by vLLM): **easy 100% (40/40), | |
| medium 100% (90/90), hard 100% (140/140)**, zero truncations, zero | |
| reasoning fallbacks. Prior best on the same harness was 100/100/98.7. | |
| ## Quantization recipe | |
| This is a **v3-recipe** house quant, built to preserve the adapter effect | |
| through 4-bit compression: | |
| - modelopt 0.45 **W4A16** NVFP4, per-tensor streaming PTQ (the same | |
| 400-tensor quantize set + ignore list as the published house Signal quants) | |
| - **FP8 attention** (absmax — byte-matches NVIDIA's checkpoint at 97–99%) | |
| - **Local-Hessian-weighted calibration on MLP + lm_head** (Hessian captured | |
| from 2048 house-traffic chunks; Hessian-weighted MSE scale solve with | |
| per-block e4m3 bracketing). This matters: an absmax-calibrated quant of the | |
| same weights attenuates the terse-reasoning effect to roughly half | |
| (−49.5% vs −92.4% cut measured). Geomean Hessian-weighted error ratio | |
| 0.805 vs the absmax baseline on the stock base. | |
| - **MTP draft stack included** (1 MTP layer, BF16, vocab-truncated | |
| 40960-id draft head) so speculative decoding works out of the box. | |
| ## Serving (vLLM, tested path) | |
| ```bash | |
| vllm serve Shockem/Qwen3.8-27b-Terse-Coder-NVFP4 \ | |
| --speculative-config '{"method":"mtp","num_speculative_tokens":3}' \ | |
| --kv-cache-dtype fp8 | |
| ``` | |
| **Turn MTP spec decode on** — outputs are target-verified (lossless) and | |
| acceptance is 0.41. If you serve with spec decode, make sure the generation | |
| config has **no `min_p`** — vLLM 0.28 rejects min_p under spec decode. | |
| Recommended sampling (mirrors testing): temp 0.6, top_k 20, top_p 0.95, | |
| repetition_penalty 1.05. | |
| On 2×16 GB cards cap context at ~200k with a ~3.9 GiB FP8 KV pin; | |
| single-card 24 GB+ rigs are unaffected. | |
| ## Notes | |
| - **Do not stack the | |
| [Terse-Coder adapter](https://huggingface.co/Shockem/Qwen3.8-27b-Terse-Coder-LoRA) | |
| on this checkpoint** — the preference is already merged in; double | |
| application over-shortens reasoning (63% pass with `no_code` failures). | |
| - The fp16 source weights are at | |
| [Shockem/Qwen3.8-27b-Terse-Coder](https://huggingface.co/Shockem/Qwen3.8-27b-Terse-Coder) | |
| if you want to quantize differently or merge further. | |
| - Behavioral edit, not a knowledge edit — targeted at coding with thinking | |
| enabled. Should work on other backends (SGLang, TabbyAPI/EXL3), but only | |
| vLLM has been measured; validate before relying on them. | |
| ## Attributions & licenses | |
| This checkpoint is a quantized derivative of | |
| [Shockem/Qwen3.8-27b-Terse-Coder](https://huggingface.co/Shockem/Qwen3.8-27b-Terse-Coder), | |
| itself a derivative of [Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B](https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B), | |
| © Qwen Team, Alibaba Cloud, licensed **Apache 2.0**; this checkpoint remains | |
| Apache 2.0 and the original license and copyright notices are retained. | |
| Credits: | |
| - **Qwen Team (Alibaba Cloud)** — the Qwen3.8-27B base model (Apache 2.0). | |
| - **NVIDIA** — [TensorRT Model Optimizer](https://github.com/NVIDIA/TensorRT-Model-Optimizer) | |
| 0.45 (Apache 2.0) drove this NVFP4 quantization; NVIDIA's published | |
| [Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4](https://huggingface.co/nvidia/Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4) | |
| checkpoint informed the Hessian-calibrated recipe. | |
| - **[agentionai](https://huggingface.co/agentionai/Signal-3.8-27B)** and | |
| **[p-e-w](https://github.com/p-e-w/heretic)** (Heretic) — Signal and a | |
| heretic-ara variant were two of the three trace-generation policies in the | |
| upstream adapter's preference data. | |
| - **OpenAI** ([HumanEval](https://github.com/openai/human-eval), MIT) and | |
| **Google** ([MBPP](https://github.com/google-research/google-research/tree/master/mbpp), | |
| CC-BY 4.0) — prompt sources for training and held-out evaluation. | |
| - **Hugging Face [TRL](https://github.com/huggingface/trl)** (Apache 2.0) — | |
| DPO training; **[Datacurve](https://huggingface.co/datasets/datacurve/deep-swe)** | |
| — DeepSWE, independent evaluation only. | |
| None of these parties endorse this model; all remaining errors are ours. | |