author: amy young-leith

subject: Re: D&S?

text:
In article <[email]>,
Barbara Saunders <[email]> wrote:

But if it's this D&S thing or some other related or non related issue
would make a big difference.

She said something along the lines of, "His therapist said..." so it
sounds like they may have discussed it and he came out with a, "Well,
my therapist said that this outside relationship is good for me."  IE
he's saying that what the therapist says is ok for him is more
important than what they think is good for their relationship.

However it's just as likely that he "needs" a professional opinion to
back up doing things otherwise not allowed in his relationship.

If his needs go counter to what his partners needs are, then he first
needs to deal with that.  For instance, if he wants to have outside
sexual partners (for ANY type of interaction) and his wife doesn't
want this type of arrangement, then he needs to clear this up (either
by making a compromise or whatever or ending the relationship) before
he does anything this major.

Yes, it is, which is why if he wants something counter to the wants of
his partner, he needs to face up to that and deal with it before DOING
that very thing.

The issue of whether it's alright for him to have outside involvements
is between him and "god?"  I don't think so.  It's an issue that needs
to be resolved within the marriage.

amy


author: Barbara Saunders

subject: Re: D&S?

text:
In article <[email]> "amy young-leith" <[email]> writes:

I didn't read that at all.  I read something much more vague than that.
It *might have been what you say.  It also *might have been that the
wife isn't sure that D&S is "normal", and that *she, herself, is cons-
sidering the idea with an open mind because "a professional" did not
say it was "perverted."

And if they don't come to agreement, he "should" defer.  It's not
that simple.

Perhaps.  But Amy, I really don't see how you are any more qualified
to make such a judgement than the "quack".  Marriage means different
things to different people, some of which *you don't agree with,
some of which *I don't agree with.
Barbara


author: Patrick Dolan

subject: Re: 1,993 Oil Nazis Terminated - 0 WMDs - Do You Know Where Your Government Is?

text:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:27:20 GMT, dangdangdoodle3
<[email]> wrote:

You leftists crack me up. You talk a lot about how you hate "murder"
and suffering and then you stand proud and celebrate the death of
people and call them silly names.

Very typical of you. Leftists have two faces.

How do you feel, knowing that you're a liar?


author: noodle

text:
"Patrick Dolan" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

indeed...America may be a pig country, no better than communist China or
Saddam, but the soldiers are still people.


text:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:00:06 -0400, "noodle" <[email]> wrote:

You sound like a pompous Brit. America is a great country. Most of the
reasons for leftists attacking the credibility of the USA is simple
jealousy.

Yes, even soldiers are people. To celebrate their death is something a
low-life would do.


author: Steve Walker

text:
Patrick Dolan wrote:

I just love that line, along with "they hate our freedom".

top-quality delusional thinking.


text:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:30:17 +0100, "Steve Walker"
<[email]> wrote:

Delusional thinking to you. Reality to most Americans. After all, we
could be living on your quaint little island instead of the richest,
most powerful country in the world with the latest, greatest
technology.

Far more Brit's have come to the USA to live than Americans to
England. Why is that? Are they just homesick for the colonies?


author: Capricorne

subject: L'Homme

text:
Connaï¿œssez-vous la sculpture L'Homme d'Alexander Calder.  On en
a parlï¿œ cette semaine.  Il s'agit d'une sculpture en acier qui a
ï¿œtï¿œ installï¿œe sur l'ï¿œle ste-Hï¿œlï¿œne pour Expo 67.

Cette sculpture ï¿œ l'abandon depuis des annï¿œes, a ï¿œtï¿œ ï¿œvaluï¿œe
rï¿œcemment ï¿œ 50 millions de dollars.

La ville de Montrï¿œal a ï¿œtï¿œ sensibilisï¿œe ï¿œ la valeur de cette
oeuvre ï¿œ cause des ï¿œvï¿œnements du 11 septembre 2001.  Une petite
sculpture du mï¿œme artiste a ï¿œtï¿œ dï¿œtruite lors de ces ï¿œvï¿œnements.
 Les assurances l'avaient ï¿œvaluï¿œe ï¿œ 20 millions de dollars.

La Ville a dï¿œcidï¿œ de la restaurer, mais ils ne savent pas quoi
en faire.

Je propose qu'on en fasse don ï¿œ la ville de New York.


author: Jean-Pierre Gauthier

subject: Re: L'Homme

text:
Bonne idï¿½e!

ï¿½a fait assï¿½ longtemps que le Canada crache "officiellement" sur les
Ahhhmï¿½ricains et co-opï¿½re avec eux par la porte arriï¿½re!

Jean-Pierre Gauthier


subject: Re: L'Homme

text:
"Capricorne" <[email]> a ï¿½crit dans le message de
news:[email]...

quelle connerie ... De la facon dont les amï¿½ricains nous traite, la seule
chose que New York mï¿½rite de nous, c'est une bouteille de sirop d'ï¿½rable.


author: Brock Hannibal

subject: Re: VERONIKA'S LITTLE BITCH 2.0

text:
Rauni <[email]> wrote in
<[email]>:

Did you realize that in the US the primary vectors for AIDS getting
into the heterosexual population are bisexuality and intravenous drug
use? Didn't think you were that smart.


author: Uncle Davey

subject: Re: VERONIKA'S LITTLE BITCH 2.0

text:
"Brock Hannibal" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
drug

But that's actually when sodomy is involved. Lesbian sex does not
involve sodomy, unless it's with a strap on, and therefore is not
higher risk for them than heterosexual sex is.

Male homosexual behaviours on the other hand are certainly much more
high risk, as well as making much worse television.

Uncle Davey


subject: Re: VERONIKA'S LITTLE BITCH 2.0

text:
"Uncle Davey" <[email]> wrote in
<avsern$chv$[email]>:

But, you must realize that promiscuous bisexuals do all sorts of
things with their partners. Then those partners go have sex with
hetero's and spread disease.

Worse television is an understatement.


author: la n.

subject: Re: VERONIKA'S LITTLE BITCH 2.0

text:
Geebus, I thought it was every warmblooded male's
not-so-secret fantasy to observe two women get it on
(bi) sexually.

Have you guys suddenly turned into ... prudes????

la n.


author: [redacted]

subject: Re: VERONIKA'S LITTLE BITCH 2.0

text:
la n. <[email]> wrote:

unless i'm invited, hell no.

i'm the resident prude around here. mike said so.

... Shawn Pickrell


author: Sherley

subject: Any great Thai Recipes?

text:
I need awsome recipes to cook home!  I'm addicted to our local THai
Restaurant and can't afford them right now.

HELP!

[email]


author: ian

subject: Re: Any great Thai Recipes?

text:
You'll find some good ones here:

http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/recipe.html

Ian

Sherley wrote:


author: Loafer

subject: Re: Any great Thai Recipes?

text:
On 10 Apr 2003 16:50:48 -0700, [email] (Sherley) wrote:

Google is your friend. Hundreds of pages from "thai recipes", but this
one particularly caught my fancy:
http://www.nectec.or.th/users/joy/SCTrecipes/


author: pickle

subject: Re: Any great Thai Recipes?

text:
"Sherley" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Say Hey !!

Pick up a cook book from Chiang Mai International School for your Thai
recipes.


author: Jesus Christ the Holy Cunt Fucker

subject:
Re: Chinese Radio International has arrived in Phnom Penh , Is ASEAN
	the NEW SOUTH CHINA for the Chinese people ?

text:
Chinese  George  Ramayah ,
are  you  denying  there  is  a Chinese  Radio  International in
Phnom Penh  Cambodia ?

Dec 12, 8:10 am, .•:*¨¨*:•. ® George Ramayah ™ .•:*¨¨*:•.
<[email]> wrote:


author: PM

text:
Amigos/as. En nuestro sitio Web encontraras esta semana los siguientes titulares en Primera Plana:
    1.. Informe reunión de la internacional Demócrata Cristiana en Río de Janeiro, prsidida pro Jose maria Aznar, el 19-20 de mayo. Este informe contiene una resolución sobre Cuba y fotos del evento.
    2.. "El momento de la Oposición", articulo de Rafael Rojas.
    3.. Voceros de Consenso Cubano dan testimonio a Raúl Rivero en acto de la Comunidad de Madrid el 18 de mayo. Solo en nuestro sitio Web encontraras esta información acompañada de fotos del evento.
    4.. Y mucho más..
    5.. Visita nuestro sito Web www.pdc-cuba.org y compártelo.Gracias. Marcelino
Marcelino Miyares Sotolongo, Presidente
PDC de Cuba
[email]
www.pdc-cuba.org
Global Phone 305-778 3977


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Fidel Castro Photo Exhibition Opens in Venezuela

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Fidel Castro Photo Exhibition Opens in Venezuela

Havana, Nov 9 (acn). An exhibition of 100 photos of Cuban President
Fidel Castro was inaugurated on November 8 and will run until December
8 at Venezuela's National Library in Caracas.

Carefully prepared by Cuba's Library of Photography in celebration of
Cuban President Fidel Castro's 80th birthday, the exhibit consists of a
collection of emblematic images by over a dozen photographers, through
which visitors gain insight into the life and times of the leader of
the Cuban Revolution from 1959 to 2003, reports Granma newspaper.

Entitled "Momentos," the exhibition includes works by outstanding
artists, such as Osvaldo Salas, Alberto Korda, Luis Pierce, Raul
Corrales, Roberto Salas, Jose Agraz, Mario Collado, Jose Tabio, Paco
Altuna, Ernesto Fernandez and Liborio Noval, as well as others from the
Diario de Cuba, which used to be published in the eastern province of
Santiago de Cuba.

The exhibition's photographs, from several different Cuban
publications, personal and public collections, are a priceless
piece of history and bear the aesthetic sensibilities of their
photographers, many of them overcoming a lack in technology with
humanism and sensitivity.

The idea for the exhibition came as a result of the increasing cultural
exchanges between Venezuela and Cuba, within the framework of the
Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas (ALBA).

Venezuelan Culture Minister Francisco Sesto, who attended the inaugural
ceremony, called the exhibition "extraordinary," and said that the
close cultural links enjoyed between the two countries wouldn't have
been possible without the meeting of Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez
- --"two Latin American giants."
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author: TORREBLANCA®

subject: Re: Fidel Castro Photo Exhibition Opens in Venezuela

text:
On 9 nov, 16:07, [email] wrote:

oiga que cosa tan interesante, imagino que habran muchas como estas,
la verdadera faceta de la historia de los 50 a�os de la tirania.....
ojeeen ahi !!!

http://www.therealcuba.com/OLDMANATMARINAAZCUYLINGONBED.jpg

http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm


text:
On Nov 9, 5:44 pm, TORREBLANCA� <[email]> wrote:

Ven aca Marico Blanca, acaso no sabes lo depravado, vulgar y
degenerado que eres?
La oposicion deberia conseguir personas decentes, bueno si acaso las
tiene.

http://el.mariconcito.torreblanca.esgay.com/
http://el.mariconcito.torreblanca.esgay.com/
http://el.mariconcito.torreblanca.esgay.com/


author: Marko Rauhamaa

subject: Re: R: R: Mondezo:  An Esperanto Dialect

text:
"Eugenio Fabian" <[email]>:

Via novajhlegilo ial ne komprenas miajn chapelitajn literojn. Chu
aliuloj havas la saman problemon pri miaj afishajhoj?

La frazoj estis:

    Certe mi ne vakuon evitos, via moshto.
    Certe minevakuon evitos via moshto.

Se oni evakuas homojn el mino, temas pri minevakuo.

Marko


author: Mireille Corobu

text:
Marko Rauhamaa

Mi normale ricevis la supersignojn en via antaua afisho ( hodiau je la
12h 35m sur mia komputilo ) kiu estis sendita en "latin 3" do
"iso-8859-3"
Male chi afishon senditan en "us-ascii" mi ricevis "h-e", mi pensas ke vi
vole skribis per la "h-metodo" anstatau skribi la belajn supersignojn,
chu mi eraris?
Mireja


author: Dario Rodriguez

subject: RE: R: R: Mondezo:  An Esperanto Dialect

text:
Marko skribis:  "Via novajhlegilo ial ne komprenas miajn chapelitajn
literojn. Chu aliuloj havas la saman problemon pri miaj afishajhoj?"

Mia novajxlegilo (Outlook Express 5) funkcias plej perfekte rilate al
tio. Viaj mesagxoj, Marko, alvenas koditaj kiel latin-3 (iso-8859-3), kaj
mi legas ilin rekte cxe eo.babilejo. La supersignoj aperas tute korekte.
Same okazas kiam la mesagxoj alvenas koditaj unikode.

Sed, kurioze, la transiro de la mesagxoj tra kelkaj serviloj ankritaj en
la primitiva epoko de us-ascii, okazigas strangajxojn, kiel ekzemple: mi
deziris felicxan novan jaron en hispana (feliz a?o nuevo), kaj la hispana
litero ?  (n kun supersigno ~), kiu trovigxas same en latin-1 (okcidenta
kodo) kiel ankau en latin-3, forfalis kiam Donald kopiis mian frazon,
anstatauata per signo ?.

Ankau okazas katastrofo kiam oni legas la mesagxojn per "esperanto-l" en
la koncerna HTML pagxo de Yahoo-groups. Tial mi decidis daure uzi la cx
sistemon almenau por novajx-grupo kaj dissendolistoj. Kontraue, la
supersignoj glore triumfas en HTML-pagxoj koditaj unikode!

Dario Rodriguez


text:
"Dario Rodriguez" <[email]>:

Jes, mi faris tion intence (kiel mi jam antaue klarigis).

Tamen vi povas libere uzi la tutan skalon de unikodo che eo.babilejo. La
transafishado garantias, ke tia katastrofo ne okazas.

Marko


text:
Mireille Corobu:

Marko Rauhamaa:

Saluton Marko kaj bonan trian tagon de la 2002a jaro.
Kiel kutime mi malfermas mian Outlook Express-on kaj post kelkaj
musklakoj mi ricevas de eo.babileo la senditajn afishojn en la kodo uzita
de la sendinto. Chi matenon mi devis/as froti la okulojn plurfoje... ;-)
Unue mi legis respondojn de Javier pri la " shtelita hundo" kaj tiam mi
min demandis _ Chu mi estas vekighinta? au chu mi estas vekighanta? au chu mi
estas vekighonta? ;-))
Poste mi legis chi afishon kaj denove frotas la okulojn...
Kial vi anstatauigis la ch-literon per ? kaj la sh per ? ? Chu nova testo?
Mireja


author: Saba Taqi

subject: Re: CREATE soc.culture.indian.muslims

text:
[email] (Anup Pradhan) wrote:

You're right re: prompting other religious/caste newsgroups to create
their own newsgroup.  Such divisiveness is not good IMHO.  I don't know.
I'm confused now...
I *would* like to see a soc.culture.india.hyderabad.  Can someone
please tell me how you go about creating such a newsgroup?
Thank you.
Saba


author: nitewing

subject: Re: What should one keep in the lower-division curriculum ?

text:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:46:44 GMT, [email] wrote:
Before pointing your finger in accusation in such brute words, please
make sure you properly understand the context of the conversation.  By
"problems," I in no way meant exercises.  Anyone who has gone through
the Feynman Lectures or even parts of it would not even need to "flip
through" them to realize instantly that there are no exercises in the
feynman series (lol). By problems, I meant the examples he uses for
didactic purposes. Examples that stand out from the Feynman lectures
is the question he poses regarding the Einstein-Smoluchowski solution
of the random-walk problem (that should be in the Brownian movement
chapter) or just the horde of other didactic hypotheticals he poses in
order to put the point across. But my problem with it is that students
without a firm understanding of the concepts of physics won't grasp
these "problems" (examples), so it puts forth a didactic tautology. I
think that's why I would rather prefer to have H&R as a primary intro
course textbook, with Feynman as good "additional reading," to quote
myself from my initial post.

In any case.. there is a supplementary problem set book written by
Mathew Sands.  It has been out-of-print for a long time here in the
U.S.  I was unable to find this in the U.S. but I was able to buy it
in India. The reprint in India is published by Narosa Publishing
House. You might want to check it out. It doesn't have much do to with
Feynman Lectures themselves except the problems correspond with the
chapters and subsections of the Feynman lectures. They're also a
little more challenging than H&R.

Then you must know Ayan Srivatsav, who scored a 99% aggregate and was
in the papers all over India. Or there is Mukund Vengalattore,
currently a grad student at MIT, who had a 95% and was ranked 16th in
IIT-JEE ('95) (so imagine what the other 15 had). There is Vijay Bhat,
whom I met at the International Physics Olympiad, who got a 100% in
the physics paper. He opted not to go to IIT and is instead here at
Princeton.

I should mention, though, that I did not take the Chemistry paper.  I
only took the mathematics and physics papers. The score I had
indicated, as I should have clarified before, was only on the physics
paper.  I thought that was clear from the context of the discussion
but I guess I am wrong.  I found math to be easier than physics at the
time I took it, but I had a lower score on that than physics (93%).
This was by no means an "official" sitting for me (it was rather
informal) and the only reason I took it was because my uncle, a
professor in the Civil Engineering dept. at IIT-Bombay (& Kanpur) at
the time, suggested that maybe I should see how I would fare. Since it
was in the 10th grade and I hadn't taken a rigorous chemistry course
yet. I doubt it would have mattered even if I did because I hate chem
and I suck royally at it.

Again, please be careful with your words.  Level of difficulty is a
subjective matter, varying on an individual basis. I personally felt
that the IIT probs were on-par, and sometimes even easier, than H&R
problems.  There were some problems on the IIT-JEE, as I recall it now
4 years later, that were 15-second problems while others were much
much more challenging... some were even on the level of math and
physics olympiads!  But I can say the same about H&R too. *I* think
overall, the level of difficulty of both is comparable.

As I had said in my earlier post, I have a tremendous degree of
respect and admiration for IIT. I think it's a great institution,
which would be made even greater if the IIT system was allocated
greater funding. But that's another matter (check out the IIT-Bombay
alumni page for their recent pledge-drive to raise funds).  I think
IIT is comparable, if not above, some of the foremost technical
colleges in the West. IIT enjoys a great worldwide reputation that is
second to none, and a large number of the IIT grads go on to graduate
studies at the best programs in USA (or as now is the trend even in
India, to the top IT firms in Bangalore or Hyderabad).

My background in introductory physics came from H&R. I think it served
me well in preparing me for both, the olympiad and JEE (though I
didn't actually study for JEE but you get the point).  Perhaps maybe I
come off a little too biased towards H&R, so you might have to excuse
me for that... but it has served me very well. ;)

Oh, I see.. Sorry, I misunderstood you earlier. Even then, you must be
kidding if you want to compare ICSE/HSC level-of-examination with H&R.
You surely will agree with me that the level of difficulty in H&R is
far higher than that tested by those board exams. But I am not going
to dispute you claim since this again is a matter dependent on
individual subjectivity.  If it is indeed on the same level as H&R,
then I am glad because I had previously thought of the ICSE/HSC level
to be somewhat too simple and a failure in testing real concepts. But
I am glad to learn that it is not so.

Rathin


author: Aaron Bergman

text:
In article <[email]>, nitewing wrote:

Hunh.

He's in the quantum course I'm TAing.

Aaron


text:
ok, I apologise on this point.

  My copy of Feynmans is from Narosa. I will check out the other book
  you mentioned.

 I am not sure about this, IIT does NOT give out actual marks.
 You can only get it "unofficially".
 if you haven't already,
 visit the url I gave www.geocities.com/rohinsaluja/jeemark.htm
 (notice that 370+/600 supposedly puts you in the first 100)
 The 95 students you mention about gave a 60-marks 2 hr paper
 as opposed to a 100 or 200 marks 3-hr paper. Also, I should
 mention the physics paper was simple. Again its subjective.

 I am not comparing the exam-difficulty, simply the level of material
 covered in H&R and in the ICSE/CBSE texts.

 ICSE/HSC is very simple !!! That's my point... and so is H&R :-)

 Also, the ICSE/CBSE/HSC exams do not test any concepts, just your
 ability to memorise and then recall on exam-day.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.


author: L

subject: Malaysia dare and boleh

text:
In public protest, Malaysia and Singapore are a world apart.
Malaysia dare and boleh
Singapore dare not (or ball shrink) and ta'boleh
Why?


subject: Re: Shameless fake now fake "L"

text: "L" <[email]> wrote in message news:fnho8r$7kc$[email]...


author: 星星2

subject: Re: Shameless fake now fake "L"

text:
Shameless fake ! You are shameless to fake the
name of others !

L wrote:


subject: Re: Shameless fake now fake "L"

text:
Monkey sin-sin. Why everyday you cry father and cry mother about fake?
I want you stop all your cow-peh-cow-boo and return to the zoo and do your
part as a good Ah Meng. Here is no zoo or jungle for you.

Please stop tailing me. I have no more peanuts for you. Come back tomorrow and I will give you my banana to play. You can suck but cannot bite. OK??!

"星星2" <[email].> wrote in message news:fnho4l$k71$[email]...


author: Fortinbras

subject: Re: Al Jurub Al Salibiya

text:
In article <eba12v$hv1$[email]>, [email] says...
trabajo.

Que trabajo. Si los otros hacen menos que latas de sardinas de vuestros antes
invencibles Merkava. Ni siquiera empezaron trabajos alguno. "Losers!"

saludos cordiales

Fortinbras


author: Nelson

subject: Re: Al Jurub Al Salibiya

text:
"Fortinbras" <[email]> wrote in message news:ebah59$ccq$[email]...

   Me parece que no has entendido nada, y que has meado fuera del tiesto.


author: Menudo Nelson

subject: Re: Al Jurub Al Salibiya

text:
Botines es botones
como cojines es a X,
y me importan 3X,
cual sean tus opiniones.

"Nelson"


author: Glenallan

subject: Jewish Tartan

text:
http://www.RampantScotland.com/letter.htm

The first record of a Jew in Scotland is in 1691 and since then they have
been an integral part of the country and its people. Jews were never
persecuted and there were no pogroms, no Holocaust, no national or state
sponsored antisemitic laws. When England was burning and exiling its Jews in
the Middle Ages, Scotland provided a safe haven from English and European
anti-Semitism. Now, after over 300 years, an official Jewish tartan has been
created and registered with the Scottish Tartans Authority. It was designed
by the only Scottish-born Rabbi living in Scotland, it's 100 per cent
Kosher - being a non wool-linen mix. It incorporates many aspects of
Scottish-Jewish cultural and religious history, with the colours, weave and
number of threads picked for their relevance to Judaism.The blue and white
represents the colours of the Israeli and Scottish flag with the central
gold line representing the gold from the Biblical Tabernacle, the Ark of the
Covenant and the many ceremonial vessels. The launch of the new tartan
coincided with Israel's 60th anniversary celebrations.

G


author: Ariadne

subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
On Jun 2, 2:46 am, "Glenallan" <[email]> wrote:

You are too previous!  It's beautiful and thank you for posting it.

There seems to be other evidence of Jews living unmolested
in Scotland since 13c?


author: Val Adams

subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
Glenallan wrote:
  Actually I think the new  tartan is cool and enjoyed other snippets of
page which have pinched URL of for later perusal. Now you  tell me how much
reading time YOU have with a gkid on board?


author: Jane Margaret Laight

subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
On Jun 1, 9:46 pm, "Glenallan" <[email]> wrote:

although descended from the offspring of an unmarried milkmaid, I
assure you that my parents were married...

and as to the copulative actions of either platyrrhini or catarrhini,
I have no opinion.

And, finally, for the record, I do love Scotland...

so there, you cranky old fart.

JML
defending the rights of monkeys to make little monkeys since God-knows-
when


author: The Fifeshire Bimbo

subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
"Glenallan" <[email]> wrote
 Scottie does a fine job with his Snippets! Thanks for reminding everybody.

Cheers,  Helen


author: Ian Smith

subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 02:46:12 +0100
"Glenallan" <[email]> wrote:

There's a lot happening there. ;-)

Oh, by the way, thanks for that interesting article.


author: Bryn

subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
On 1 Jun, 18:16, "Glenallan" <[email]> wrote:

Yes indeed! And they have just named a bird that makes its nest from
excrement as national bird.

I imagine the irony bypassed them...

I did know the above already apart from the primate's copulation.

Bryn


subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
I am obviously wasting my time here.
Very few of you bastards actually give
a Monkey's Fuck about Scotland.

G


subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
"Val Adams" <[email]> wrote

------------

However,

"If you have been passed a copy of this Newsletter by someone else, but
would like to receive your own free copy direct from Scotland, just send an
email to [email] with "Subscribe" in the subject line."

That's your invitation above, for all lovers of Scotland.
The newsletter is published online in Text and HTML format
every 2 weeks and is an excellent way for overseas Scots
to get the news of what is going on in Scotland.

G


author: conwaycaine

subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
"The Fifeshire Bimbo" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
Here I've been snipping away for months and do I get an Accolade?
Oh no...............

   ;=)


subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
"Glenallan" <[email]> wrote

"I still know how to bring out the Best in you.!!"

The Sorcerer's Apprentice.
---------------------------


author: Jeffrey Hamilton

subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
Eight and one-half's of waiting eh!
The shame, the shame.
By the way, what bloody time is it?

 cheers....Jeff

"Glenallan" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
"Glenallan" <[email]> wrote

 Awa an no haver min!

HTR


subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
Glenallan wrote:
subscribe done-and, oh, yeah? either of them 6 feet tall at age 13? I'm
being picked on, I tell you!


author: Josiah Jenkins

subject: Re: Jewish Tartan

text:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:54:31 -0400, "The Fifeshire Bimbo"
<[email]> wrote:

This from the man who, elsewhere, declares . . .

"It was in our minds to damn-the-hell oot o' the Labour Party
and all who sailed in her..if ye get my drift."

But when it comes to "voting fur Alec" decides, "..me tae"

Dearie, dearie me.

IMHO . . . The Labour party buried their socialist principles
and credentials along with John Smith.


author: [redacted]

subject: Re: 3 MORE CHRISTIAN PRIESTS DEFROCKED FOR SEX ABUSE

text:
Defrocking a half-naked mango-leaf skirted senile hawaiian astrologer
will be a punishment to Osama bin Laden when he is caught for torture
and termination.

Osama will choose hell instead.


author: PRAKASH APPUKUTTAN

text:
Neil wrote:

Absolutely, Neil. You are entirely correct. The objection was purely
since the soc.culture.indian group is for a community that is 85%
hindu, and the focus of the "upper caste" folks here is the sexual
orientation and behavior of a completely insignificant group of 2% in
India (Christians and their priests) or a slightly bigger 12% muslim
communities. Why not clean up the 85% community first? Granted that
evil is evil anywhere, how can a significant community ignore its own
faults?


text:
Smart boy Adi writes:

When RSS folks watch assaults by "Christian" priests on Christian boys,
it becomes porn.

When RSS folks watch assaults by "Hindu" priests on Hindu boys, it
becomes love.

Right and wrong is relative, when it comes to "Hindu" people. If a
dalit is raped, is that wrong? Do you show the same passion? (not
towards her, you idiot!)


author: Marcus Aurelius

text:
You call sexual assaults "porn"?
Either you are demented, or just immoral. If you don't watch yourself,
you will become a criminal yourself, since you can't tell the
difference between right and wrong.

Adi Anant


text:
Smart boy Adi:

Quite the opposite. What is strange is that the folks who crank out the
RSS porn channel stories completely avoid discussing the child
molestation happening in their own religious groups.

Pedophile priests/maulavis/poojaris/etc. are everywhere. To me it is
strange that you have never spoke against the postings where only ONE
specific religion seems to be attached with pedophilia. Why not we
screen RSS itself for homosexuality and pedophilia? Or do you prefer a
"do not ask, do not tell, but accuse everyone else" philosophy?


author: Neil Boss

text:
<[email]> wrote in message

Interesting though does this not happen the world over, in every society? It
is wrong in all cases, I am very much against this and will do all I can and
have done so to fight people who do this.

In the USA we can see blacks were left to fend for themselves, in Iraq,
Pakistan Sunni's and Sha'its kill each other, etc.. Is this not a human
problem created by humans?


text:
PRAKASH APPUKUTTAN <[email]> wrote in message > Absolutely,
Neil. You are entirely correct. The objection was purely

Looking at it from a greater point of view Hindus make up a small number in
the world the Christians and Muslims a greater amount. The worse kinds of
acts on others have been done by these two groups.

The worse kinds of acts on Indians (bar those of people who invaded India)
have been done by Indians. The facts are that those who have oppressed the
world and forced themselves on others had better learn to put their house in
order.

As to the so called "Upper caste" those people are nothing but a toilet
bowl, the less said the better about such people. I know my faith and I
certainly do not think like that, I am interested in my faith, doing what
has to be done, treating my co-relationists equally.

I do not accept any form of oppression and I certainly do not accept


author: Nomen Nescio

subject: Re: Rest assured, stebe is this stupid naturally

text:
stebe the loser:

so how much is that piecework data entry ie envelope stuffing 'job'
paying you per hour anyway?
                        jackie 'anakin' tokeman

men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell


author: Steve Chaney

subject: fat smelly hairy potsmoking homo has major drug induced malfunction

text:
Poodoo eeped:

I don't stuff envelopes. I process medical claims. I've had low volume
weeks of 300 claims. 3600 bucks a week before taxes. 4-5 hours of work a
day.

It sure beats your jobless, hiding under the bed lifestyle.

-- Steve

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author: Syd Barrett

subject: Griffin surname

text:
Hello all,
    I have some questions about the Griffin surname.  I was hoping some of
you could shed some light.  I can definitely trace back my Griffin forebears
back about five generations.  After that, it gets very murky, but my
*reputedly* seminal (in the US, anyway) ancestor migrated from England to
Virginia in the early 1600's.  The reason I'm cross-posting to three groups
is this:  of what origin is the Griffin name?  My grandfather said he
believed it was Welsh.  A lot of the poking around suggests it's Irish in
origin (originally spelled O'Griobtha, pronounced o-GREE-fuh).  Still others
say it is an English name.  Is any on of these the true provenance of the
name?  Or are they all correct?  That there are various branches of the
family from all countries listed?

TIA,
Victor Escobar

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author: Is Mise Gan Ainm

subject: Re: Griffin surname

text:
This is what Edward MacLysaght wrote in "The Surnames of
Ireland":

"(O) Griffin, Griffey.  ï¿½ Grï¿½obbhtha, ( grï¿½obbhtha, griffin
like). Griffin has almost entirely superseded the earlier
Griffey, The main sept is of Thomond [Nth. Munster]  Another
was located near Kenmare [Co.Cork].  Some Irish Griffins are
of Welsh origin, i.e., Griffith.

Griffith, a Welsh name used synonymously with Griffin in
Co.Kilkenny"

So, it would seem that if you ancestors originated in
Co.Kilkenny, then they were originally Griffiths of Welsh
origin.  If not then they were native Irish.

"Is Mise Gan Ainm"
====================================
"Syd Barrett" <[email]> wrote
in message news:zlQl9.50297$bX.9792@sccrnsc02...
was hoping some of
Griffin forebears
murky, but my
from England to
cross-posting to three groups
grandfather said he
suggests it's Irish in
o-GREE-fuh).  Still others
provenance of the
branches of the
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author: Eve McLaughlin

subject: Re: Griffin surname

text:
In article <zlQl9.50297$bX.9792@sccrnsc02>, Syd Barrett <sydbarrett74%RE
[email]> writes
 Not 'branches of a family' but numerous totally unrelated persons,
whose ancestors either had the Welsh forename Gryffud (pet name Griffin)
or were thought to be like the rather irascible muthical beast.
Although there are numerous examples in and near Wales, the name spreads
all over England, including a large connected group in Bucks (which is
central England.)
  That said, I once, long ago, had a boyfriend named Gerald Griffin, and
he was as Irish descended as they come - there was a fairly well known
author up the family tree.


author: Peg Sullivan

subject: Re: Griffin surname

text:
Hello all:  Have been told I have
some Griffin relations, namely
John, from Parish of Kilmovee.
He had brother, James???  John
came to the U.S. and believe he
worked on a newspaper in
Pa.  At one time had a by-line'
of his in Variety but have since
lost same.  Does anyone out
there have a clue on this?  Please
reply.  Slainte

http://community.webtv.net/SUL-VAN/SULLIVAN


subject: Re: Griffin surname

text:
Eve McLaughlin wrote:

Thanks to both you and Is Mise for your responses.  They were very
informative!

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subject: Re: Griffin surname

text:
Dear Peg,  The civil parish of Kilmovee, including the
townland of the name is in the PLU (Reg.Dist) of Swineford,
has 39 townlands, and 1 town, Kilkelly in Co. Mayo.  Btw. In
case you do not know, "Slï¿½inte", means Health;  Slï¿½n, on the
other hand, means Farewell, Goodbye, etc. as in

Slï¿½n go Foil l(Goodbye for now)

"Is Mise Gan Ainm"

"Peg Sullivan" <[email]> wrote in message
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subject: Re: Griffin surname

text:
Hi again:  I really did mean "Health,
Cheers"...I never say goodbye.
Have been to Kilmovee many times
and know John Griffin had land and
house in Leveelick, three lots from
both my great grandparents, per
Griffith Land Register.  My family
has purchased the ancestral home,
along with l2 acres, etc.  However,
cannot connect families.  Does this
ring a bell?  God bless.   Peg

http://community.webtv.net/SUL-VAN/SULLIVAN


subject: Re: Griffin surname

text:
Well, whether you meant it or not,or whether you ever say
goodbye,  in ordinary everyday, conversations in the Gaelic
amongst friends or strangers, we say 'Slainte'  ONLY over a
toast (a drink), as in "Slainte beagh"  = Good health to
you.!.  It is NEVER, ever, a farewell greeting.  Be modest
and live and learn, won't you?  Because to those of us from
there, and who speak the language, it's an abberation.
" Is Mise Gan Ainm"
"Peg Sullivan" <[email]> wrote in message
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author: Mike Robinson

subject: ROBINSON; NIR > Cornwall,Ont,CAN; 1810

text:
ROBINSON; NIR > Cornwall,Ont,CAN; 1810

I am currently tracking my ancestor William Robinson.
He arrived in the Cornwall area circa 1810, fought in the
war of 1812.

He was given a 100 acre landgrant in Glengarry County, the title of which
belongs to a Robinson to this date.

Getting no-where fast with Archives Canada.

Regards
Mike Robinson
<mike@|family.nas.net>Remove the bogus pipe.


author: Nikoll A Mirakaj

subject: Re: 12-year old raped and killed by US soldier in Kosovo

text:
U.S. forces in eastern Kosovo said on Saturday they
had detained one of their own soldiers in connection with the murder of
a local girl, believed to have been in her early teens.
     General Klaus Reinhardt, the commander of the NATO-led KFOR
peacekeeping force, pledged the investigation into the killing would be
pursued with vigor. He expressed his condolences to the girl's family
and all the people of Kosovo.
     ``I say this because the very reason that KFOR came here was to
stop violence,'' the German army general said.
     ``To discover that one of our own members may have been involved in
the ultimate act of violence -- murder -- fills me with horror and
anger,'' he said in a statement.
     KFOR soldiers found the girl's body on Thursday evening near the
town of Vitina in southeastern Kosovo, U.S. forces said. She was
believed to have been of ethnic Albanian origin and aged around 14,
military sources said.
     An autopsy would determine whether the girl had been abused before
she was killed, a KFOR spokesman said. No charges had yet been brought
against the soldier, whose identity would not be released for the
moment, KFOR said.
     The case is the first time a KFOR soldier has been known to be the
suspect in such a serious crime.
     The 50,000-strong multi-national force began deploying in Kosovo
after 11 weeks of NATO bombing drove out Serb forces who had waged a
campaign of terror against the province's ethnic Albanian majority.
     Brigadier General Ricardo Sanchez, the commander of the U.S.- led
military sector, met local community leaders in Vitina after news of the
soldier's detention had been released.
     ``This is an isolated, individual criminal act that will be dealt
with appropriately,'' Sanchez told them, according to a statement.
``KFOR is here to protect all the people of Kosovo. This is a very
tragic event....No one is above the law and I hope that you understand
this.''
     Sanchez said the soldier was being held at Camp Bondsteel, the main
base for U.S. forces in Kosovo. He pledged to release more information
to the people of Vitina as soon as he could.
     ``We want to keep you and the people accurately informed, and ask
that you help us keep false rumors from spreading and making the
situation worse,'' he told the community leaders.

Nikoll A Mirakaj <[email]> wrote in message
news:85v73h$oql$[email]...
when
thousands
Vitina.
occurances.
the


author: wmangoes

subject: Online Islamic Resources

text:
This was posted before on alt.religion.islam.  I have modified it and
am posting it again because the former post was invisible to Netscape
and Forte and consequently didn't get much response.

To verify what is said on this NG, I am using the following resouces:

Online Korans:
  www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
  etext.virginia.edu/koran.html

The two seem to agree with each other pretty well.

I have had some problems where the verse numbers seem several verses
off when comparing with a printed Koran I have by Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
Thus, if you are given the numbers of a Koranic quote, you may have to
hunt around the area to find the actual quote (Bibles are well
standardized on quote numbers and do not have this problem).
    I don't understand why the Muslims can't get together and agree on
standard verse numbers in the Koran.  It would be such a help.

On the Hadith I have been using
  www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

But am not entirely happy with it.  For one thing, the first search
available on the web page, the "Classic MSA-USC Search" does not seem
to work for me.  The second search, the "New Ultraseek Search" works,
but the readout is awkward.  Also, there is no provision for a
"browser", to look up a Hadith verse when you have the numbers.
Another thing I don't like about this is that you can't search for
numbers since it will find all Hadith quotes containing that number in
their reference number.  Thus, looking for 72 Houris for Martyrs is
unsuccessful since you just get flooded by all the phrases containing
"72" in their reference numbers.

I would also like the following if they exist:
  -- A website(s) describing Islam for beginners
  -- A list of which parts of the Bible are recounted into the Koran,
    and a guide to how the names were mangled, ie Joseph -> Yusuf
  -- rebuttals to such Islam-hostile sites as
     www.answering-islam.org  and
     www.carm.org/islam.htm

Thank you for your help.


author: Moataz Emam

subject: Re: Online Islamic Resources

text:
wmangoes wrote:

This last one is Shakir's translation. I think it is better than Yusuf
Ali's. However, both web sites suffer from lack of commentary. Reading a
translation of the Quran without a commentary is not recommended. I
suggest:

http://www.altway.freeuk.com/
http://www.muslim.org/english-quran/quran.htm

This is also excellent. It has all major translations, the Arabic
original and a searchable commentary

http://www.al-islam.org/quran/

The verses of the Quran are standardly numbered. There are no changes. I
do not know why translations of the Quran might suffer from this.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/
http://www.al-islam.com/
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/

Sure, read the Quran.

:-) Mangled? These are versions of the names. Joseph is the latinzed
version of Hebrew "Yosef", which is exactly the Arabic version. Mary is
latin for Hebrew Miriam and Arabic Mariam. Since latin is newer than any
of these, I would say that Yosef was "mangled" into Joseph. Anyway, Arab
Christians use the Arabic Bible, with the Arabic version of the names.


subject: Re: Online Islamic Resources

text:
Thank you, Moataz, your post is very valuable and I have bookmarked
many of the URL's.

Moataz Emam <[email]> wrote in message news:<a7n8ap$niq$[email]>...

I agree with you that reading a Koran without commentary is not a good
idea.  I was doing that, got through about 20 chapters, then when I
read some commentary about what those chapters were talking about, I
had had no idea.  My comprehension was pathetic.  I think it is better
to turn to other sources mixed with direct reading of the Koran.

See my other post "Verse confusion in Koran" on 3/24 in
alt.religion.islam and soc.religion.islam, someone replied to this
through email -- like you, he had
no idea what I was talking about.  So I posted a reply to my own post,
now visible in both groups, where I describe my problem in detail.
This was a big problem for me before I knew what was going on and I am
amazed you guys don't know what I am talking about.

I hope I find a job before I have enough time to read the whole
Qur'an, slowly and thoughtfully, with commentary!  I am trying to be
fair in researching your religion, but my resources are limited.

"Mangled" was a poor choice of words.  What I would like is a list of
names of people in the Bible in English, with their corresponding
names in English Korans.

For example, there is someone in the Jewish Bible (also read by
Christians) a very strong warrior named Samson.  He committed suicide,
was given strength by God to do so, killing himself and many of his
enemies, including women and civilians.  This is a very popular story
among Christians and his death is seen as a positive thing by
Christians (and probably Jews, I don't know, I never asked them), but
it gives clear precedent to a Palestinian suicide bomber.  Now I would
like to know if this story is in the Koran.  When I do a search on
"Samson" I don't get anything, but that doesn't tell me much, his name
might be different in my Koran.  So please tell me, how do I research
this?

Perhaps Arabic Christians might have such a list of Arabic names
versus English
names?


subject: Re: Online Islamic Resources

text:
wmangoes wrote:

You are welcome. Anytime.

The Quran, as you discovered, is a complex book that was not meant to be
read like a novel. Many verses are attached to historical incidents and
only apply to those incidents. Many others are related to incidents but
are supposed to teach us a moral. One can never understand those verses
without a commentary that explains the scholarly and historical
backgrounds.

As I said, some publishers obviously goofed big time. I would assume the
problem arises from the translational point of view. Due to the
structure of the Arabic language, it may become very difficult to
translate verses in a one to one correspondence, forcing the translator
to combine verses in one and that causes a shift. I do not know what to
tell you. I can see how much of a problem this can be for a serious
researcher. The best I can do is refer you as I did before to a
translation that puts both Arabic and English together in the same page.
These are less likely to have this kind of confusion.

Well, most Muslims would be familiar with the story of Samson (Arabic:
Shamshoon) from Biblical sources. In my case, my grandmother told me his
story as a bedtime story when I was young, carefully readapted by her
for a young mind :-). But there is no recounting of it in the Quran at
all. It is strictly from the Jewish and Christian heritage in the middle
east.

They probably do. I am not aware that anyone has compiled a detailed
list though. Try Egyptian Coptic web sites.


subject: Re: Online Islamic Resources

text:
On 27 Mar 2002 22:23:40 GMT, Moataz Emam <[email]>
wrote:

Now you have me confused and have certainly aroused my curiosity.  You
say Samson is in the Bible but not the Koran, but you say most Muslims
would have heard of him.
- Do Muslims read the Bible as well as the Koran?  If so, that is a
big surprise to me.
- If so, why did Mohammed repeat some of the Bible stories into the
Koran when they were already available from the Bible?
- Do they read both Old and New Testaments of the Bilble?
- Or was your grandmother Christian or Jewish?


author: thebit

subject: Re: Online Islamic Resources

text:
wmangoes wrote:

Why not? It evidently contains part of previous Revelation.

Some of the stories were "repeated" (not by Muhammad (p)) because they had
lost their original meaning or because they had become adulterated and needed
correction. Take the case of the Seven Sleepers well known in the Christian
traditions. The Qur'an condemns people for pursuing inane things like the
number of sleepers (was it three, five or seven? etc), rather than taking the
meaning of the story. Some were revealed to remind the people of what happens
to those who reject a Messenger.

I read both. I also try and read other non-Semitic scriptures.


subject: Re: Online Islamic Resources

text:
wmangoes wrote:

:-) Glad to have been of help

Yes, because it is a nice story that people tell. Also, most Muslim
countries have percentages of Christians living in it (varying from zero
to 20% in Egypt to 55% in Lebanon, last I heard). It is natural for
cultures and religions to affect each other. For example, the story of
Adam and Eve. In the Quran it is very similar to the Bible, with some
exceptions like: it does not say that the forbidden fruit was an apple.
HOWEVER, many Muslims, when asked, would tell you that the fruit was an
apple, even though Islam is silent about that.

Not normally, no. Curious Muslims like myself have read the Bible, just
to know what is in it.

Because Mohammed did not write the Quran, God did. He related the
stories of the prophets in the Quran, and because of this divine
authorship, the Quranic version is believed to be the correct version.
"Which are you going to believe, a book written by God or a book written
by people?" is the Islamic stand point.

As I said, we do not normally. But when some do, we read the whole
thing, why not?

Nope, she is Muslim. She told me the story of Samson as she also told me
the story of Cinderella, which is neither in the Quran nor in the Bible
:-)


subject: Re: Loophole in Shanghai Communique of 1972

text:
Certainly, if Ace Sinica follows in LTH's footsteps, declaring himself
a non-Chinese and thinks that can break loophole in 1972 Shanghai
Communique, but in the eyes of his Uncle Sam, that is changing the
status quo which is also not allowed by his Uncle Sam.  Then what
should Ace Sinica do?

The bottom line is Ace Sinica's destiny is determined by his Uncle Sam
and he also reluctantly criticizes his Uncle Sam because he still needs
Uncle Sam's protection.  That's CSB's dilema, that's Ace Sinica's
dilema, that's TIers' dilema.  Their fates are in the hand of their
Uncle Sam, sad but a cruel reality.

For pan-blue supporters, they dont have this problem, they are Chinese,
they acknowledged One-China principle but they also tell the CCP that
unification is pre-mature and the status-quo is best for both sides for
now and they want a normalized relationship with mainland, the CCP said
they understand that.  The result is peace and prosperity, a win-win
result.  That's KMT's stance.  You see, we dont have to babble about
those communiques and we leave it to Ace Sinica to babble (or "rant").
LOL!

Ace Sinica wrote:


author: Ace Sinica

text:
So much ranting from abianchen...........very childish thinking from his
point of view. Just because I pointed out this loophole, he thinks I'm
following in LTH's footsteps.

Speaking of protection:
Choice A: Quasi protection from the US, backed by US armed forces.
Choice B: Promised 50 yrs no change from CCP, backed by PLA.

Take your pick.

[email] wrote:


text:
There you go, daydreaming again. Beijing wants TW to formally and
officially agree to become only a Special Administration Region of the
People's Republic of China.

Unless you've forgotten, indefinite status-quo is not acceptable to
Beijing too.

[email] wrote:


author: Sean Pedley

subject: Staffordshire 1861 or 1871 census lookup please.

text:
Hi everyone,

I would be very grateful if anybody with access to census records for
Staffordshire could look up the following:

Richard Pedley                               Head
Jane Pedley (Tucker)                      Wife
Alfred Pedley  (b 13 June 1853)      Son

Alfred (known as Albert in the 1881 census) married in 1877 - in Leicester.
He had left his parent's home by the 1881 census, so I need to verify my
missing link back to his parents.

Many thanks in advance.

Sean Pedley


author: C Rihan

subject: Re: Staffordshire 1861 or 1871 census lookup please.

text:
"Sean Pedley" <[email]> wrote in message
news:%rFk9.17844$[email]...
Leicester.

Did any of your PEDLEYs  marry a Mary GULLY?

Best wishes
C.Rihan
P.S. Please reply to group or remove the nospam thankyou.


text:
No Mary Gully, I'm afraid.

I've made a note - and if I do come across a Mary Gully who married a
Pedley, I'll post the group.

Cheers
Sean

"C Rihan" <[email]> wrote in message
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text:
"Sean Pedley" <[email]> wrote in message
news:oXTk9.17957$[email]...

Thanks Sean
Best wishes
C.rihan


author: Vse pak sum az

subject: Struva si da se prochete

text:
Fransetata se osirat totalno,
http://www.mediapool.bg/site/bulgaria/2001/08/14/0001.shtml


author: Simeon Vlahov

subject: Re: Struva si da se prochete

text:
"Vse pak sum az" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

"ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½"

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ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½
(ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½), ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½
ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ "ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½" ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½.
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ 2 ï¿½ï¿½ 3 ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ DM ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½. ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ...
ï¿½ï¿½: ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½-ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½?

ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½


author: Stefanov

subject: Re: Struva si da se prochete

text:
"Simeon Vlahov" <[email]> wrote in message
news:9ldnfh$90m5t$[email]...
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½

OK, tova ostava v grafata "ne znam". Moje tezi obrazi da sa falshificirali
dokumenti, a konsulstvoto da ne e bilo nameseno (samo predpolojenie, niamam
lichni nabliudenia).

Frenskoto konsulstvo beshe izvestno s grubite i podkupni slujitelki
(balgarki), koito se darjaha naglo i az lichno sam govoril sas shefa na
vizovia otdel predi niakolko godini i sam mu obrashtal vnimanie na tova. U
mene niamashe samnenie, che tazi prostashtina se tolerirashe ot
konsulstvoto, tia se izvarshvashe pred ochite na frenskite slujiteli.
Dokolkoto poznavam frenskata biurokracia, tova ne me uchudvashe mnogo.


author: Nicolas Kostoff

subject: Re: Struva si da se prochete

text:
Stefanov wrote:

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
!!!!

ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½(?)  ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½...

ï¿½ ï¿½


author: stefanov

subject: Re: Struva si da se prochete

text:
"Nicolas Kostoff" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Ne celiah da kaja, che frenskite slujiteli sa bili nepodkupni. Prosto na
predna linia biaha izkarvani balgarki, a francuzite obrabotvaha po-slojni
sluchai (kadeto podkupa e po-goliam :-)). Frenskite slujiteli sashto biaha
nevazpitani, no te si biaha naeli balgarki da varshat chernata rabota. Ot
druga strana balgarkite, znaeiki che im plashtat za da badat grubi, si
izpalniavaha dobre zadachata. Kato pribavish kam tova totalnata
nekompetentnost na frenskite slujiteli, poluchavashe se edna dosta mrachna
kartinka.


subject: Re: Struva si da se prochete

text:
stefanov wrote:

ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½  ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½- ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½, ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ?

ï¿½ ï¿½


subject: Re: Struva si da se prochete

text:
"Nicolas Kostoff" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
po-slojni
biaha
Ot
mrachna

Ne mi se obiasniava vtori pat kakvo sam iskal da kaja. Koi razbral -
razbral.

Da, razbira se, ako naistina e imalo dalaveri. Az pisah za neshta, na koito
sam bil svidetel - grubost, stigashta do prostashtina. Tia ne samo be
tolerirana ot frenskite slujiteli, tia beshe saznatelno tarsena. A
nekompetentnostta i tapotata na shefa na vizovia otdel (francuzin) beshe
ujasiavashta.


author: Guentcho Skordev

subject: Re: Struva si da se prochete

text:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 22:53:04 +0200, Nicolas Kostoff wrote:

пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅ пїЅ пїЅпїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅ пїЅ пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ (пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ) /пїЅпїЅ. пїЅпїЅ-пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ/? пїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ, пїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅ
пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ, пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅпїЅ _пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ_ пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ, пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ...

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пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ


subject: Pri Gxangalo kaj la Babilejo

text:
Saluton!

Char la retpagharo de Gxangalo.com evidente malfunkcias kaj ankau la
tiea babilejo ne plu estas, mi proponas uzi la babilejon che
http://www.pirch.com/chat/index.php
en la chambro 'Esperanto'.
Ghi tre similas al la Ghangala babilejo. Mi esperas, ke la iam en
Gxangalo babilintaj homoj renkontighos denove che
http://www.pirch.com/chat/index.php!

Amike
M@rko~~~


author: Kalle Kniivilä

subject: Ĝangalo malaperis

text:
M@rko skribis:

Jes, ĝi daŭre ne funkcias. Ĉu iu scias kiam ĝi malaperis? Aŭ eĉ pli
grave, ĉu iu scias, kial ĝi ne funkcias, kaj ĉu ĝi baldaŭ reaperos?

Kalle Kniivilä


author: Evgeny Tikhonov

subject: Re: Pri Gxangalo kaj la Babilejo

text:
Kie en tiu babilejo estas esperantlingva versio? kiaml do mi ne povas elekti
esperanton?

"M@rko" <[email]> ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½/ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½:
news:[email]...


author: Donald J. Harlow

subject: Re: Ĝangalo malaperis

text:
"Kalle Kniivilä" <[email]> skribis en mesaĝo
news:[email]...
Jen mesaĝo, kiu alvenis ĉe mi de la listo peruaj-esperantistoj.

---

Saluton, karaj Ĝangalanoj

Vi ĉiuj povas trankviliĝi pri la subita malapero de Ĝangalo el ĉies ekranoj,
ekde sabato. Temas pri tio, ke ni havis, ekde la 30a de decembro, tute
neatenditan kreskegon de nia vizitantaro - de averaĝe 1.500 vizitantoj tage
(kun pintoj de 2.500 tage), Ĝangalo subite atingis 4.000, post 5.500 kaj
fine 6.500, kadre de 5 tagoj... Ankoraŭ ne klaras la  kialon por ĉi tiu
subita enveno de vizitantoj en nia sistemon, sed fakto restas fakto, ke laŭ
niaj planoj, ni trapasus la nombron de 5.000 vizitantoj tage nur ĉe la fino
de 2005. Tial ni difinis trafikon ĉe nia servilo kiu subite ne plu eltenis
kaj la tuta sistemo, pro sekurecaj motivoj, malŝaltiĝis aŭtomate.

 La redakcio nun laboras por pligrandigi la trafikeblecon ĉe nia servilo,
tasko kiun ni planas fini ĝis venonta merkredo. Triste estas tamen rimarki
kiom da malfido la esperantistoj ankoraŭ havas pri la daŭrigo de
Ĝangalo...kiam ni, de la redakcio, iris al la retejo NUN por informi publike
al la esperantistaro pri la kialo de nia subita 'elkraniĝo' kaj informi pri
nia reveno, ni kun ŝoko jam trovis informon, en kiu oni aplombe kaj tute
misinforme diskonigas, ke Ĝangalo ne plu funkcias. Ekde la lanĉo de Gxangalo
ni aŭdas ke la portalo ne daŭros, ke ni ne sukcesos longe elteni la
profesiecon, kiun ni proponas, sed tamen je la 18a de januaro ni festos,
kune kun niaj pli ol 2.100 registritaj membroj, la 2an datrevenon de
Ĝangalo.

 Ĝangalo tute ne malaperis, sed ja estis devigata dumtempe foriri el ĉies
ekranoj pro troa kaj subita sukceso ĉe la publiko. Temas, iasence do, pri
pozitiva krizo, kiu vere plaĉas al ni administri.

 Via  Flavio Rebello


author: raskolnikov

subject: Re: Ĝangalo malaperis

text:
Donald J. Harlow wrote:
dankon pro la informo pri Gxangalo - tamen ilia klarigo estas iom nebula
- se temus pri normala kresko de nombro da vizitoj, ili ne rifuzus
aliron al sia servilo - mi forte suspektas ke temas pri pirata atako,
kian bedawrinde suferas multaj retserviloj - miaopinie oni tiakaze ne
devus bombasti pri "subita sukceso cxe la publiko" - aliflanke mi
esperas ke Gxangalo baldaw sukcesos 'reenkranigxi'.
      dominik
http://milenia.ifrance.com
+


author: NefeshBarYochai

subject: Re: YOCHI IS KING OF THE ATEMPTED MASTURBATORS

text:
On Apr 17, 1:20 pm, The Revd <[email]> wrote:

Tho dines on the fecal of homosexuals because thou is a fatth fartth
eater and smeller.


author: Michael Ejercito

subject:
Re: Having Endless Fun with Usenet's "Famous" Sexual Cripple and
 Psychopath, The Retard!

text:
On Apr 20, 5:05 am, The Peeler <[email]>
wrote:
   It is pathetic that he relies on a superficial characteristic to
make himself feel better.
   That would be better than being a Nazi nithing.

   This link explains him.

   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//m/morton.chris/what-is-a-nazi

 Michael


author: The Revd

text:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:00:48 -0700 (PDT), NefeshBarYochai
<[email]> wrote:

Learn English, you fucking ape.


author: The Peeler

subject: Re: Having Endless Fun with our Resident Scumbag and Psychopath, The Retard! <BG>

text:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:35:56 -0600, The Retard, the resident psychopath of
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
wrote:

Learn to behave like a half-way normal human being finally, you sick,
subnormal, degenerate and peverted psychopathic swine!


author: Eugen Fabian

subject: Malsatuloj de la mondo

text:
Malsatuloj de la mondo miris
Kial neniu tion al ili diris ke...
Por satigi malsatan homaron,
Ja sufiĉas havi SAT-vortaron? ;o)

Eugenio :-)


subject: Re: Malsatuloj de la mondo

text:
"Eugen Fabian" <[email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
4a2fbbab$0$18935$[email]...

Tio estas sprita kaj eĉ iel flata por SAT, sed bedaùrinde malvera ...

Petro :-(


subject: Re: Malsatuloj de la mondo

text:
pierre.levy ha scritto:

Se vi pensas ke mia unua respondo estas fuŝita, vi pravas. Mi esperas
ke tio ne okazas nur al mi. Jen kiel okazis. Mi havis gastojn. Kiam ili
foriris
Mi pensis: Fine mi povas trankvile respondi al Petro. Sed ne okazis tiel
ĉar
alvenis najbarino. Mi pensis: Morgaŭ mi devas iri al Venecio, do se mi ne
forsendas ĝin nun ĝi alvenos tro malfrue. Bedaŭrinde mi forsendis ĝin.
Kutime mi legas mesaĝojn du tri- foje kaj mi aldonas aŭ forviŝas ion.
Jen la mesaĝo korektita kaj finita laŭ mia intenco.

..............................
Ne estas tre sprite diri ĉiam la veron. Al la homoj plaĉas sonĝi.
Esperantistoj ne estas esceptoj. Mi dirus ke al ni plaĉas eĉ pli sonĝi
ol al aliaj. Kiel ekzemplo ke pli ridigas malvero ol vero mi sendas
al vi kelkajn spritaĵojn kiuj ne estas malveraj sed malmulte ridigas.
Homoj kiuj pensas malsame, ne estas tre amuzaj. En kelkaj landoj
liberpensuloj estas konsiderataj danĝeraj homoj...Jen de kie venas la
sekva proverbo: Ne parolu mia buŝo por ke ne doloru mia kapo. :o)

.................................
Kiam oni koleriĝas tio signifas ke la objektiveco de la vivo komencas
enfiltriĝi en la propran internan realecon kaj ekŝanceligas la konstruaĵojn
faritajn, verdire iomete fuŝe, de la propra menso.

La homoj ricevis la parolkapablon por kaŝi ne la pensojn sed la fakton
ke tiuj pensoj mankas....Fakte ĝenerale oni preferas la parol-liberecon
anstataŭ la pens-libereco.

Oni povas batali kontraŭ la antaŭjuĝoj sed venki ilin, oni povas neniam.
...................................
Eugenio


subject: Re: Malsatuloj de la mondo

text:
pierre.levy ha scritto:

Ne estas tre sprite diri ĉiam la veron. Al la homoj plaĉas sonĝi.
Esperantistoj ne estas esceptoj. Mi dirus ke al ni plaĉas eĉ pli sonĝi
ol al aliaj. Kiel ekzemplo mi sendas al vi kelkajn spritaĵojn kiuj
ne estas malveraj sed ne multe ridigas.
.................................
Kiam oni koleriĝas tio signifas ke la objektiveco de la vivo komencas
enfiltriĝi
en la propran internan realecon kaj ekŝanceligas la konstruaĵojn faritajn,
verdire iomete fuŝe, de la propra menso.

La homoj ricevis la parolkapablon por kaŝi ne la pensojn sed la fakton
ke tiuj
pensoj mankas....Fakte ĝenerale oni preferas la parol-liberecon antaŭ la
pens-libereco.

Oni povas batali kontraŭ la antaŭjuĝoj sed venki ilin, oni povas neniam.
...................................
Eugenio


author: chhotemianinshallah

subject: Re: Superpower Syndrome: Sid Harth

text:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Obama-strikes-a-Hindi-chord-with-Namaste-and-Swagat/articleshow/5268768.cms

Obama strikes a Hindi chord with 'Namaste' and 'Swagat'
PTI 25 November 2009, 07:40pm IST

WASHINGTON: Seeking to strike a chord with Indians, US President
Barack Obama twice turned to Hindi as he hosted Prime Minister
Manmohan Singh to the White House.

The 48-year-old American leader set the mood for the day when he
greeted everyone at the beginning of a joint press conference with
Singh with a traditional Indian "Namaste".

He went on to describe India as a "rising and responsible" power and
voiced confidence that it will assume its rightful place as a global
leader in this century.

In the evening, as he raised the toast along with Singh at the high-
profile state dinner, the first black American President reached out
to India by greeting the audience in Hindi with "Aapka Swagat
Hai" (you are welcome).

While Singh wished the Americans -"a happy Thanksgiving," marked on
the fourth Thursday of November in the US, Obama pointed out that the
White House had celebrated both Diwali and the birthday of Guru Nanak
for the first time this year.

"Tonight, we gather again, for the first State Dinner of my presidency
— with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Mrs Gursharan Kaur, as we
celebrate the great and growing partnership between the United States
and India," he said.

Obama said the bond between India and the US includes more than two
million Indian-Americans who enrich every corner of the US — leaders
in government, science, industry and the arts — "some of whom join us
tonight".

The joint statement by the two leaders also mentioned the "vibrant
linkages between their peoples, which are a unique asset for both
countries, and are reflected in the role played by the Indian-American
community."

...and I am Sid Harth


author: Moira de Swardt

subject: Don't call the fire brigade

text:
There's apparently going to be an independent municipal workers
strike next week.  Today the fire and ambulance service
representatives met with Johannesburg City management because they
might join the strike.

It isn't legal for emergency services to strike as far as I know.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


author: Steve Hayes

subject: Re: Don't call the fire brigade

text:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:39:29 +0200, "Moira de Swardt"
<[email]> wrote:

I think that was in terms of the Riotous Assemblies Act, which i think has
been repealed.

When I drove buses in Johannesburg there were relevant excerpts from it posted
in the workplace, just in case any of us got any ideas.

Steve Hayes
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm


subject: Re: Don't call the fire brigade

text:
"Steve Hayes" <[email]> wrote in message

they

think has

from it posted

There is a difference between "essential services" like bus services
and "emergency services" like ambulances and fire brigade.
The one is really life threatening if they go on strike.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother


author: Mikhail Medved

subject: Quote of the day

text:
"Well, let me just say quickly that I had an extraordinary experience
of watching, up close and personal, that transition in Russia because
I was there right after the transformation and I was probably one of
the first senators, along with Senator Bob Smith of New Hampshire,
former senator, to go down into the K.G.B. underneath Treblinka Square
and see reams of files with names in them."

Senator John Kerry


author: Blunt Force Trauma

subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
I was a little surprise that the press never caught that. I guess he meant
the lubyanka or whatever the phuck they called that prison in Moscow.

Of course, Bush had no clue what a Treblinka was either.

As I recall, I believe it was one of uncle Adolf's concentration camps.

"Mikhail Medved" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


author: Captain!

subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
"Mikhail Medved" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

is that for real? if it is, the man's a fucking tool.


author: MirTopolskiRexPrez

subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
Yup, this time Brookski's comment is correct like Einstein's broken watch.

Blunt Force Trauma wrote:


author: Blunt Force Trauma II

subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
"Captain!" <[email]> wrote in message
news:qFr8d.12717$MV5.274@clgrps13...

I did watch the debate and he did say he was underneath "Treblinka". Maybe
there is a Treblinka square somewhere?


subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
"Captain!" <[email]> wrote in message news:<qFr8d.12717$MV5.274@clgrps13>...

It surely is. You could have figured by now that I don't bullshit.

Just read any complete transcript of the debate.


subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
"MirTopolskiRexPrez" <[email]> wrote in message
news:cjsf26$nnu$[email]...

My dentist has reams of files with names in them too. What does that mean?


author: Hugo S. Cunningham

subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:55:23 GMT, "Blunt Force Trauma II"
<[email]> wrote:

No.  He definitely meant "Lubyanka."  (There is a site in Poland, but
I suspect you know that already...)

I picked up Kerry's gaffe at the time and posted it to a preexisting
thread on newsgroup ne.politics
"Thurs 29 Sep 2004: Flip to debate Flop "
Nobody responded, and I wondered if I imagined it, but the "New York
Times" transcript the next day also had it as "Treblinka Square."

--Hugo S. Cunningham


subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
"Blunt Force Trauma II" <[email]> wrote in message news:<fcu8d.14696$[email]>...

I don't think so. It's the case of "Lubyanka, Treblinka, whatever".

The real Treblinka camp in Poland was liquidated by the SS troops
before the Red Army could arrvie.


subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
"Blunt Force Trauma II" <[email]> wrote in message news:<fcu8d.14696$[email]>...

I don't think so. It's the case of "Lubyanka, Treblinka, whatever".

The real Treblinka camp in Poland was liquidated by the SS troops
before the Red Army could arrive.


subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
Blunt Force Trauma wrote:

I dunno about your dentist, unless his name is Einstein. As to Einstein
proper, the tale sez that once he asked his students whether a broken
watch can be accurate. Correct answer: yes, but only twice a day.


subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <[email]> wrote in message news:<4JC8d.119929$[email]>...

That's a good comeback. Thanks, Rostyk!


subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
"MirTopolskiRexPrez" <[email]> wrote in message
news:cjsgit$p67$[email]...

That's two times more than you.


subject: Re: Quote of the day

text:
"MirTopolskiRexPrez" <[email]> wrote in message
news:cjsgit$p67$[email]...

lol


author: Jim Again...

subject: DIE MENS EN DIE SUBMENS...

text:
DIE ONDERSKEID TUSSEN MENS EN SUBMENS :

Kom ons doen hiermee 'n ontleding van hierdie onderwerp
waar ons oa die terme "minderheid" en "meerderheid" kor-
rek gebruik sonder dat ons die terme "verteenwoordigend",
"relatief" en "relevansie" buite die konteks laat.

Reëls van ontleding en klassifikasie :

A) Waar hier van 'n ras of (sub)spesie gepraat word, dan
is dit spesifiek slegs van toepassing op die suiwer genetie-
se vorm van so 'n ras of (sub)spesie, en dus nie van toe-
passing op basters of tussen-groepe met gemengde (Wit)
bloed in hulle are nie.

B) Om binne die konteks van die terme "verteenwoordigend"
en "relevansie" te bly, is alles hieronder genoem slegs van
toepassing op 90+% van die relevante ras of (sub)spesie,
soos in (A) gedefiniëer, dws toegepas op die meerderheid
van daardie bepaalde ras of (sub)spesie.

C) Statistieke van (die optredes / gedrag van) die minder-
heid (10% en minder) van so 'n bepaalde ras of (sub)spesie
kan dus logies nie as relevant of verteenwoordigend beskou
word nie, en kan dus nie (as getuienis) in aanmerking ge-
neem word om daardie ras of (sub)spesie akkuraat of oor-
tuigend te omskryf nie.

1) Die eienskappe van 'n beskaafde Mens as volg :

1.1) Die mees gesofistikeerde, mees (tegnologies) ontwik-
kelde, mees beskaafde, mees skeppende, mees intelligente
en die mees innoverende en toekomsdenkende ras of (sub)
spesie op aarde.

1.2) Hierdie bogenoemde eienskappe kan verder ontleed
word, ingedeel en gedefiniëer word in terme van die vol-
gende relevante afdelings of onderwerpe :

a) Wetenskap en Wiskunde, (insl analitiese vermoëns en
tegniese vaardighede)

b) Aardrykskunde en Sterrekunde

c) Kommunikasie en Letterkunde

d) Vervoer

e) Argitektuur

f) Mynbou

g) Landbou

h) Kuns en Musiek

i) Kultuur

j) Etiese kodes en Morele waardes

k) Medisyne en Higiëne

1.3) "Intelligent" beteken ook dat dit hier slegs van toe-
passing is op die ras of (sub)spesie wie se lede die hoog-
ste IK besit en ook (as 'n resultaat) die beste (hoogste)
akademiese prestasies behaal tydens jare van sekondêre
en tersiêre opvoeding, veral in vakgebiede wat deur velde
1.2 a tot k verteenwoordig word.

1.4) "Innoverend" beteken ook dat dit hier slegs van toe-
passing is op die ras of (sub)spesie wat op sy eie (en nie
deur 'n ander ras geleer is nie) spesifieke uitvindings mbt
bogenoemde velde (1.2 a tot k) eerste gedoen het.

1.5) "Skeppend" beteken ook dat dit hier slegs van toe-
passing is op die ras of (sub)spesie wat die meeste skep-
pings (ontwerpe / uitvindings) in die bogenoemde velde
(1.2 a tot k) voortgebring het.

1.6) "Ontwikkelde" beteken ook dat dit hier slegs van
toepassing is op die ras of (sub)spesie wat die hoogste
sporte in die bogenoemde velde (1.2 a tot k) bereik het.

1.7) "Beskaafd" en "gesofistikeerd" beteken ook dat dit
hier slegs van toepassing is op die ras of (sub)spesie
wat die hoogste ontwikkeld was en is, in velde 1.2 h
tot k.

1.8) 'n Ras wat dus voldoen aan al hierdie bogenoemde
vereistes en wat sodoende hierdie gesamentlike uitvin-
dings, skeppings en ontwikkelings aan die res van die
wêreld oorgedra het, sodat al die ander rasse vandag
hierdie ontwikkelings en voordele mag benut en geniet.

2) Die eienskappe van 'n Sub-Mens as volg :

2.1) Relatief onintelligent (met 'n gemiddelde IK van 70),
ongesofistikeerd, onderontwikkeld, onbeskaaf, primitief,
selfs barbaars, min tot nie-skeppend, en min tot geen
innovasie -en toekomsvisie vir/by daardie ras of (sub)
spesie op aarde.

2.2) Hierdie bogenoemde eienskappe kan verder ontleed
word, ingedeel en gedefiniëer word in terme van die vol-
gende relevante afdelings of onderwerpe, soos gevind
in 1.2 a tot k :

- 'n Ras wat min tot geen innovasie, skeppendheid of
tegniese vaardigheid getoon het, (en steeds toon) in
hierdie velde nie, en daarom geensins enige noemens-
waardige ontwikkeling in hierdie velde voortgebring het
nie.

2.3) 'n Ras wat van die begin af as onbeskaaf, primitief
en barbaars beskou is, spesifiek agv die volhoudende of
konstante lae (tot geen) vlak van ontwikkeling in velde
1.2 h tot k.

Hier volg 'n Paar voorbeelde van wat NIE deur hulle
ontdek, uitgevind of ontwerp is nie :

- Algebra, elektrisiteit, gloeilamp, chemie en polimere.
- Die seismograaf, die teleskoop, en die telefoon.
- Geskrewe taal, papier, pen, die drukpers en geld.
- Die wiel, paaie, skepe, spoorweë en vliegtuie.
- Fondasies, bakstene, glas en sement.
- Minerale in die grond, ontginning en metallurgie.
- Akkerbou, veeboerdery, opgaardamme en die boorgat.
- Olieverf, beeldhouwerk, die klavier en bladmusiek.
- Katoen, klere, kouse, skoene, knope, en ritsluiters.
- Toneel, film, fotografie, die rekenaar en die laser.
- Wette, orde, howe, polisie en die gevangenis.
- Seep, baddens, lopende water en sanitasie.
- Eerstehulp, medisyne en hospitale.

2.4) 'n Ras wat bogenoemde ontwikkelings 'ge-erf' het of
tans probeer 'bestudeer', baas raak, na-aap of kopiëer, en
dit dan meestal op 'n arrogante en barbaarse wyse as sy
'eie skeppings' eien. 'n Ras wat nou nog nie weet wat die
woorde "Higiëne" en "Sanitasie" beteken nie.

2.5) Insluitend 'n ras wat nie lank terug kaalvoet oor die
vlaktes in velletjies rondgeloop het, nie eers geweet het
wat 'n skoen, skoenriem of 'n knoopsgat is nie, wat net
mekaar uitgemoor, beroof en opgevreet het, en hulle eie
babas by kranse afgegooi het, in grashutte gewoon het,
en vandag arrogant "claim" dat hulle die Piramides gebou
het (dít, terwyl hulle nie eers die wiskunde daaragter ver-
staan nie), en dat hulle 'n groot, slim koning by die naam
"Tshwane" gehad het wat in paleise met lopende water
gewoon het. Ha !

'n Ras met die gemiddelde IK van 70, wat nie Wiskunde,
Chemie, Fisika en Tegniese Vakke kan baasraak nie, wat
in Skole, Technikons en Universiteite "oorgehelp" moet
word, om sodoende te kan "presteer". - Lees gerus die
boek "The Bell Curve" as waardige getuienis.

'n Ras wat 'n Matrieksertifikaat, 'n Bestuurderslisensie,
'n Vliënierslisensie en 'n Universiteitsgraad koop.

'n Ras wat geen variasie in anatomie toon, soos vers-
killende haartipe, haarkleur en oogkleur nie. Al wat oor-
eenstem is die natuurlike stank.

'n Ras wat, as hy skrik, nie sy adrenalien direk binne sy
ingewande in die bloedstroom afskei nie, maar sy adren-
alien wel agter in sy mond afskei, om dit daarna outoma-
ties te sluk, om sodoende die nodige reaksie te verkry.
Hierdie tipe adrenale afskeiding kom ook by bokke voor.

'n Ras met geen kroontjie bo-op sy skedel nie, wie se
beenmurg nie by Blankes oorgeplant kan word nie.

'n Ras wat karkasse, verrotte vleis en verrote kos kan
vreet sonder dat dit hom iets aandoen.

'n Ras van wie se lede die meerderheid in Blanke (westerse)
lande se tronke uitmaak. Lande soos Amerika en Engeland.

'n Ras wat oor die algemeen van "vowlence" hou, en as hul-
le "strike" en optogte hou, dan gooi hulle die nie-stakendes
van treine af, of hulle strooi hulle vullis in die strate rond en
brand bande om só hulle dierlike standpunt te stel. Daarna
ontken hulle gewoonlik dat hulle dit gedoen het. 'n Ras wat
opvoeding só hoog op prys stel dat hulle skole afbrand wan-
neer hul "demands" nie nagekom word nie.

En wanneer hierdie ras in beheer van 'n land is, dan is
daardie "gavament" gewoonlik korrup, of hulle land word
op 'onverklaarbare' wyse geseën met oorlog en hongers-
nood en misdaad, waarin hulle steeds aanteel soos rotte,
sodat hulle op die einde van die dag "Aid" moet ontvang,
waarna hulle steeds oral met daardie alombekende "bak-
handjie" rondstaan.

Hulle ondersteun graag Kommunisme waar hulle 'n tipe
"democracy" ontwerp waar die gepeupel aanhou stem
totdat die "regte party" wen, sodat hulle vir die volgen-
de paar dekades kan regeer. Die kwaliteit van 'n só 'n
tipe "Democracy" word maklik gemeet aan die gemiddel-
de intelligensie (en beskaafdheid) van die kieserskorps.

Hierdie stelling is dus akkuraat : "Democracy in Africa
is the election of the incompetent and corrupt by the
ignorant, illiterate and barbaric."

Ja, vandag glo hierdie einste barbaarse ras nog steeds
aan die tokkelossie, die voorvadergeeste, die toordokter,
muti en muti-moord, dat hy iemand mag doodmaak vir R10
of vir sy horlosie, in 'n bord pap op die grafte van sy fami-
lielede ; dat baba-verkragting en knoffel HIV bekamp ; hy
glo in "Black Power", en dat Afrika die "cradle of human-
kind" was, terwyl hy arrogant volhou dat hy 'n "baie
beskaafde ras" is.

Maak dan maar gerus nou "julle eie mind op" oor watter
ras as "Mens" bekend sal staan, en ook watter ras as
"sub-mens" gedefiniëer kan word.

Groete

Stoute Jim, die Rassis


author: Francois Human

subject: Re: DIE MENS EN DIE SUBMENS...

text:
Ai siestog,

Dat 'n mens darem soveel moeite moet doen om te probeer bewys dat jy volgens
jou eie definisie beter is as iemand anders.  Dit spreek van 'n
minderwaardigheidsgevoel.  As al daardie energie eerder in opbouende
verhoudings ingegaan het, wat 'n woderlike wï¿½reld sou hierdie nie gewees het
nie.  Terloops, die storie van die adrenalien, sowel as die kroontjie en die
beenmurg is 'n klomp kak.

Soois

"Jim Again..." <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
DIE ONDERSKEID TUSSEN MENS EN SUBMENS :

Kom ons doen hiermee 'n ontleding van hierdie onderwerp
waar ons oa die terme "minderheid" en "meerderheid" kor-
rek gebruik sonder dat ons die terme "verteenwoordigend",
"relatief" en "relevansie" buite die konteks laat.

Reï¿½ls van ontleding en klassifikasie :

A) Waar hier van 'n ras of (sub)spesie gepraat word, dan
is dit spesifiek slegs van toepassing op die suiwer genetie-
se vorm van so 'n ras of (sub)spesie, en dus nie van toe-
passing op basters of tussen-groepe met gemengde (Wit)
bloed in hulle are nie.

B) Om binne die konteks van die terme "verteenwoordigend"
en "relevansie" te bly, is alles hieronder genoem slegs van
toepassing op 90+% van die relevante ras of (sub)spesie,
soos in (A) gedefiniï¿½er, dws toegepas op die meerderheid
van daardie bepaalde ras of (sub)spesie.

C) Statistieke van (die optredes / gedrag van) die minder-
heid (10% en minder) van so 'n bepaalde ras of (sub)spesie
kan dus logies nie as relevant of verteenwoordigend beskou
word nie, en kan dus nie (as getuienis) in aanmerking ge-
neem word om daardie ras of (sub)spesie akkuraat of oor-
tuigend te omskryf nie.

1) Die eienskappe van 'n beskaafde Mens as volg :

1.1) Die mees gesofistikeerde, mees (tegnologies) ontwik-
kelde, mees beskaafde, mees skeppende, mees intelligente
en die mees innoverende en toekomsdenkende ras of (sub)
spesie op aarde.

1.2) Hierdie bogenoemde eienskappe kan verder ontleed
word, ingedeel en gedefiniï¿½er word in terme van die vol-
gende relevante afdelings of onderwerpe :

a) Wetenskap en Wiskunde, (insl analitiese vermoï¿½ns en
tegniese vaardighede)

b) Aardrykskunde en Sterrekunde

c) Kommunikasie en Letterkunde

d) Vervoer

e) Argitektuur

f) Mynbou

g) Landbou

h) Kuns en Musiek

i) Kultuur

j) Etiese kodes en Morele waardes

k) Medisyne en Higiï¿½ne

1.3) "Intelligent" beteken ook dat dit hier slegs van toe-
passing is op die ras of (sub)spesie wie se lede die hoog-
ste IK besit en ook (as 'n resultaat) die beste (hoogste)
akademiese prestasies behaal tydens jare van sekondï¿½re
en tersiï¿½re opvoeding, veral in vakgebiede wat deur velde
1.2 a tot k verteenwoordig word.

1.4) "Innoverend" beteken ook dat dit hier slegs van toe-
passing is op die ras of (sub)spesie wat op sy eie (en nie
deur 'n ander ras geleer is nie) spesifieke uitvindings mbt
bogenoemde velde (1.2 a tot k) eerste gedoen het.

1.5) "Skeppend" beteken ook dat dit hier slegs van toe-
passing is op die ras of (sub)spesie wat die meeste skep-
pings (ontwerpe / uitvindings) in die bogenoemde velde
(1.2 a tot k) voortgebring het.

1.6) "Ontwikkelde" beteken ook dat dit hier slegs van
toepassing is op die ras of (sub)spesie wat die hoogste
sporte in die bogenoemde velde (1.2 a tot k) bereik het.

1.7) "Beskaafd" en "gesofistikeerd" beteken ook dat dit
hier slegs van toepassing is op die ras of (sub)spesie
wat die hoogste ontwikkeld was en is, in velde 1.2 h
tot k.

1.8) 'n Ras wat dus voldoen aan al hierdie bogenoemde
vereistes en wat sodoende hierdie gesamentlike uitvin-
dings, skeppings en ontwikkelings aan die res van die
wï¿½reld oorgedra het, sodat al die ander rasse vandag
hierdie ontwikkelings en voordele mag benut en geniet.

2) Die eienskappe van 'n Sub-Mens as volg :

2.1) Relatief onintelligent (met 'n gemiddelde IK van 70),
ongesofistikeerd, onderontwikkeld, onbeskaaf, primitief,
selfs barbaars, min tot nie-skeppend, en min tot geen
innovasie -en toekomsvisie vir/by daardie ras of (sub)
spesie op aarde.

2.2) Hierdie bogenoemde eienskappe kan verder ontleed
word, ingedeel en gedefiniï¿½er word in terme van die vol-
gende relevante afdelings of onderwerpe, soos gevind
in 1.2 a tot k :

- 'n Ras wat min tot geen innovasie, skeppendheid of
tegniese vaardigheid getoon het, (en steeds toon) in
hierdie velde nie, en daarom geensins enige noemens-
waardige ontwikkeling in hierdie velde voortgebring het
nie.

2.3) 'n Ras wat van die begin af as onbeskaaf, primitief
en barbaars beskou is, spesifiek agv die volhoudende of
konstante lae (tot geen) vlak van ontwikkeling in velde
1.2 h tot k.

Hier volg 'n Paar voorbeelde van wat NIE deur hulle
ontdek, uitgevind of ontwerp is nie :

- Algebra, elektrisiteit, gloeilamp, chemie en polimere.
- Die seismograaf, die teleskoop, en die telefoon.
- Geskrewe taal, papier, pen, die drukpers en geld.
- Die wiel, paaie, skepe, spoorweï¿½ en vliegtuie.
- Fondasies, bakstene, glas en sement.
- Minerale in die grond, ontginning en metallurgie.
- Akkerbou, veeboerdery, opgaardamme en die boorgat.
- Olieverf, beeldhouwerk, die klavier en bladmusiek.
- Katoen, klere, kouse, skoene, knope, en ritsluiters.
- Toneel, film, fotografie, die rekenaar en die laser.
- Wette, orde, howe, polisie en die gevangenis.
- Seep, baddens, lopende water en sanitasie.
- Eerstehulp, medisyne en hospitale.

2.4) 'n Ras wat bogenoemde ontwikkelings 'ge-erf' het of
tans probeer 'bestudeer', baas raak, na-aap of kopiï¿½er, en
dit dan meestal op 'n arrogante en barbaarse wyse as sy
'eie skeppings' eien. 'n Ras wat nou nog nie weet wat die
woorde "Higiï¿½ne" en "Sanitasie" beteken nie.

2.5) Insluitend 'n ras wat nie lank terug kaalvoet oor die
vlaktes in velletjies rondgeloop het, nie eers geweet het
wat 'n skoen, skoenriem of 'n knoopsgat is nie, wat net
mekaar uitgemoor, beroof en opgevreet het, en hulle eie
babas by kranse afgegooi het, in grashutte gewoon het,
en vandag arrogant "claim" dat hulle die Piramides gebou
het (dï¿½t, terwyl hulle nie eers die wiskunde daaragter ver-
staan nie), en dat hulle 'n groot, slim koning by die naam
"Tshwane" gehad het wat in paleise met lopende water
gewoon het. Ha !

'n Ras met die gemiddelde IK van 70, wat nie Wiskunde,
Chemie, Fisika en Tegniese Vakke kan baasraak nie, wat
in Skole, Technikons en Universiteite "oorgehelp" moet
word, om sodoende te kan "presteer". - Lees gerus die
boek "The Bell Curve" as waardige getuienis.

'n Ras wat 'n Matrieksertifikaat, 'n Bestuurderslisensie,
'n Vliï¿½nierslisensie en 'n Universiteitsgraad koop.

'n Ras wat geen variasie in anatomie toon, soos vers-
killende haartipe, haarkleur en oogkleur nie. Al wat oor-
eenstem is die natuurlike stank.

'n Ras wat, as hy skrik, nie sy adrenalien direk binne sy
ingewande in die bloedstroom afskei nie, maar sy adren-
alien wel agter in sy mond afskei, om dit daarna outoma-
ties te sluk, om sodoende die nodige reaksie te verkry.
Hierdie tipe adrenale afskeiding kom ook by bokke voor.

'n Ras met geen kroontjie bo-op sy skedel nie, wie se
beenmurg nie by Blankes oorgeplant kan word nie.

'n Ras wat karkasse, verrotte vleis en verrote kos kan
vreet sonder dat dit hom iets aandoen.

'n Ras van wie se lede die meerderheid in Blanke (westerse)
lande se tronke uitmaak. Lande soos Amerika en Engeland.

'n Ras wat oor die algemeen van "vowlence" hou, en as hul-
le "strike" en optogte hou, dan gooi hulle die nie-stakendes
van treine af, of hulle strooi hulle vullis in die strate rond en
brand bande om sï¿½ hulle dierlike standpunt te stel. Daarna
ontken hulle gewoonlik dat hulle dit gedoen het. 'n Ras wat
opvoeding sï¿½ hoog op prys stel dat hulle skole afbrand wan-
neer hul "demands" nie nagekom word nie.

En wanneer hierdie ras in beheer van 'n land is, dan is
daardie "gavament" gewoonlik korrup, of hulle land word
op 'onverklaarbare' wyse geseï¿½n met oorlog en hongers-
nood en misdaad, waarin hulle steeds aanteel soos rotte,
sodat hulle op die einde van die dag "Aid" moet ontvang,
waarna hulle steeds oral met daardie alombekende "bak-
handjie" rondstaan.

Hulle ondersteun graag Kommunisme waar hulle 'n tipe
"democracy" ontwerp waar die gepeupel aanhou stem
totdat die "regte party" wen, sodat hulle vir die volgen-
de paar dekades kan regeer. Die kwaliteit van 'n sï¿½ 'n
tipe "Democracy" word maklik gemeet aan die gemiddel-
de intelligensie (en beskaafdheid) van die kieserskorps.

Hierdie stelling is dus akkuraat : "Democracy in Africa
is the election of the incompetent and corrupt by the
ignorant, illiterate and barbaric."

Ja, vandag glo hierdie einste barbaarse ras nog steeds
aan die tokkelossie, die voorvadergeeste, die toordokter,
muti en muti-moord, dat hy iemand mag doodmaak vir R10
of vir sy horlosie, in 'n bord pap op die grafte van sy fami-
lielede ; dat baba-verkragting en knoffel HIV bekamp ; hy
glo in "Black Power", en dat Afrika die "cradle of human-
kind" was, terwyl hy arrogant volhou dat hy 'n "baie
beskaafde ras" is.

Maak dan maar gerus nou "julle eie mind op" oor watter
ras as "Mens" bekend sal staan, en ook watter ras as
"sub-mens" gedefiniï¿½er kan word.

Groete

Stoute Jim, die Rassis


author: Torreke

subject: Re: DIE MENS EN DIE SUBMENS...

text:
"Francois Human" <wrote

Jim praat so baie daarvan dat hy lankal nie meer die sleg in sy mond proe
nie!

Jimmy, jy "again".  Ek dog die duiwel is uitgedryf! - maar nee, hy het net
nog 7 ander geeste, slegter as hyself, gaan haal om by jou in te trek.

Het jy nou moeg geword vir die "anonymous" speletjie omdat te veel ouens jou
gekillfile het en die reaksies te min geword het?

Ten minste wys jy nou jou ware kleure: Jy probeer nie eens meer jou rassisme
aan God toeskryf nie - as "anonymous" het jy Hom in elk geval afgeskryf! -
jy probeer dit nou met die skyn van wetenskaplike navorsing "bewys"! - die
poging is netso belaglik as jou pogings om rasisme uit die Bybel te probeer
"bewys".


author: Annette

subject: Re: DIE MENS EN DIE SUBMENS...

text:
Soois, jy moet die arme verdwaalde wat dit oorspronklik geskryf het, darem
krediet gee vir kreatiewe skryfwerk:))
Die persoon moet 'n besondere gawe hï¿½ van totale onbegrip.

Annette

"Francois Human" <[email]> wrote in message
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author: Andy Katz

subject: London shooting not as initially reported

text:
http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=1707262005

In particular, de Menzes was not wearing a bulky coat, but a jean-type
jacket more appropriate to a British (ie, San Francisco) summer;
witnesses insist police did not identify themselves, he did not jump a
turnstile but rather used his car, and de Menzes, while possibly
having some immigration difficulty, had had his papers checked by
authorities just a day or two prior, and so wasn't likely trying to
flee immigration woes.

The notion that he made every effort to rouse the authorities'
suspicions doesn't stand.

In particular:

"Following the 9/11 attacks in the United States, British police were
given guidelines on dealing with suicide bombers in confidential
briefing papers. They state officers should "not attempt to approach,
challenge and/or negotiate" with suspected bombers as this could be
"likely to trigger denotation".

While their reasoning is sound, the above policy stands to wreak havoc
and cause further catastrophe in the UK and any other place (here in
the US?) where it's implemented.

Andy Katz
____________________________________________
"There's more to being a Jew than jewelry!"

Charlotte York, "Sex & The City"

           The Simpsons

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author: Eliyahu Rooff

subject: Re: London shooting not as initially reported

text:
"Andy Katz" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
And this has exactly what to do with Judaism, Jewish culture, etc.?

Eliyahu


text:
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 03:55:42 +0000 (UTC), "Eliyahu Rooff"
<[email]> wrote:

Very little, Eliyahu, and I'm glad you pointed this out.

I feel the same about the WTC attacks.

But it was your comment from last week,  that Menzes had apparently
done everything in his power to attract suspicion, that prompted me to
set the record straight;-)

Andy Katz
____________________________________________
"There's more to being a Jew than jewelry!"

Charlotte York, "Sex & The City"

           The Simpsons

Bastard Nation
http://www.bastards.org


author: Malcolm

text:
"Eliyahu Rooff" <[email]> wrote
Never heard of the Anglo-Israelite theory?

London is a corrpution of  "Land of Dan". Obviously this city was founded by
that tribe when they left the land of Israel, along with Dandee and
Dancaster.
King's Cross refers to Solomon's annoyance when the tribe of Dan went into
their British exile, and we even have a tube station called "Temple". What
further evidence do you need?


author: Henry Goodman

text:
"Malcolm" <[email]> wrote in message
news:dcrd8g$t2l$[email]...
jean-type
jump a
to
etc.?
founded by
went into
"Temple". What

Works better if you use Ashkenazi Hebrew as used in the majority of
British synagogues.
In this accent "Dan" becomes "Don". Try it :-)
Also "Brit Ish" is Hebrew for "man of the covenant"


author: Chano

text:
"Henry Goodman" <[email]> wrote in message
news:dcrid2$ja8$[email]...

Actually Brit Ish means "the covenant of man". Britain is Brit Ain, "the
covenant of the eye", supposedly said by the Romans when they first set eyes
on the White Cliffs of Dover.

Chano