subject: Re: Masonic references in literature

text:
DeFoe
	     Stevenson

Neil Brennen wrote:

It is not so much that "Shakespeare" himself was a Mason
but that Masons/Rosicrucians published Shake-speare and
maintained the authorship deception:
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     [In first Quarto (1603) Guildenstern was GILDERSTONE]

         Thomas Sackville, Lord Buckhurst, (1536-1608)
     the English dramatist that paved the way for Shakespeare.
             was Grandmaster Freemason (1561-1567)
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          [B]oaz [J]achin
          [B]en  [J]onson     <=>   bnbn-stone
         Son of John's son
 	 occup.: bricklayer

        ï¿½O Atum-Khoprer, you became high on the
         height, you rose up as the bnbn-stone
         in the Mansion of the Phoenix at Onï¿½

       From ancient Egyptian myth, [Benben was]
 the hill which was the first land to rise from the waters.
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               p[YRAMID]-minded Shakspeare

 <<The greatest genius that perhaps human nature has yet produced,
our MYRIAD-minded Shakspeare.>>  --  1817  Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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http://www.ancientsites.com/~Tjeti_Sobkneferu/Amun/benben.html

<<Sacred stone at Heliopolis that symbolized the Primeval mound
  and perhaps also the petrified semen of the sun god Re-Atum,
   when he self-copulated and brought things into being:

The Benben served as the earliest prototype for the obelisk, and
possibly
   even the pyramid. In recognition of these connections, the gilded
cap-stone placed at the very top of each pyramid or obelisk was known as
a benbenet. The original stone at Heliopolis was believed to have been
the point at which the rays of the rising sun first fell, and
 its cult appears to be dated back to the First Dynasty.>>
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		    Sonnet
                   <= 33 =>

              TOT    [H]  EONLIEBEGETTEROFTHESEINSVINGS
              ONN   [E T]  SMRWHALLHAPPINESSEANDTHATETE
              RNI  [T(I)E]  PROMISEDBYOVREVERLIVINGPOET
              WIS [H E T H]  THEWELLWISHINGADVENTVRERIN

  1. Full many a glorious morning have I seen
  2. Flatter the mountain tops with sovereign eye,
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          Washington Monument Masonic benbenet
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    http://www.greatdreams.com/washmnmt.htm

<<The aluminum metal apex, representing a small pyramid, on top
   of the 3300 pound capstone. The apex was engraved with the
 names of the engineers and notables who completed the monument
        and on one side contained the words: LAUS DEO.>>
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         Final words of First Folio:

CYMBELINE       LAUD we the GODS;
        And let our crooked smokes climb to their nostrils
        From our blest altars. Publish we this peace
        To all our subjects. Set we forward: let
        A Roman and a British ensign wave
        Friendly together: so through Lud's-town march:
        And in the temple of great Jupiter
        Our peace we'll ratify; seal it with feasts.
        Set on there! Never was a war did cease,
        Ere bloody hands were wash'd, with such a peace.
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*On* light; the sun, (Gen. 41:45, 50), the great seat of sun-worship,
 called also Bethshemesh (Jer. 43:13) and AVEN (Ezek. 30:17), stood
   on the east bank of the NILE, a few miles north of MEMPHIS.

 EZEKIEL 30:17  The young men of AVEN and of Pibeseth shall fall
            by the sword: and these cities shall go into captivity.

                 AVEN : nothingness; VANITY.
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          T O T H E O   [N]  L i     E B E G      E T T E R O
          F T H E S E   [I]  n S     U I N G      S O N N E T
          S M R W h a   [L]  L H   A]  P P I  [N]   E S S E A
          N D t h a t   [E]  T  [e|R]  N I T  [I]   E P R O M
          I S E D B Y O      U  [r|E]  V E R  [L]   I V I N G
          P O E t W I S      H  [e|T]  H T H  [E]   W E L L W
          I S h I N G A       [d V E]  N T U      R E R I N S
          E t T I N G                               F O R T H
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   Odyssey - Homer (tr. Samuel Butler) **  BOOK VII

<<"First find the queen her name is ARETE. . ."

   Ulysses found all the chief people among the Phaecians
  making their drink-offerings to MERCURY. He went straight
 through the court, still hidden by the cloak of darkness in
which Minerva had enveloped him, till he reached ARETE and King
Alcinous; then he laid his hands upon the knees of the queen, and
at that moment the miraculous darkness fell away from him and he
became visible. Every one was speechless at seeing a man there>>
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  Alexander Pope      Dunciad fourth book (1742)

              Next bidding all draw near on bended knees,
              The Queen confers her title and degrees.
              Her children first of more distinguished sort,
              Who study Shakespeare at the Inns of Court,
              Impale a glow-worm, or vertï¿½ profess,
              Shine in the dignity of F. R. S.,
              Some, deep Free-Masons, join the silent race,
              Worthy to fill Pythagoras's place:
              Some botonists or florists at the least,
              Or issue Members of an Annual feast.
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     Alexander Pope's Shakespeare statue points to
                "The Solemn Temples,"
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        http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/west.htm

               "The Cloud cupt Tow'rs,
                 The Gorgeous Palaces
                  The Solemn Temples,
                 The Great Globe itself
                Yea all which it Inherit,
                   Shall Dissolue;
       And like the baseless FnBRICK of a Vision
               Leave not a WRECK behind."
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        Q1      Rossencraft     Gilderstone
        Q2      Rosencrans      Guyldensterne
        F1      Rosincrane      Guildensterne
        F2,3,4  Rosincross(e)   Guildenstare

       Rosicrucian =>   Rosy Cross
       Freemason   =>   Stone Guild / the Craft
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 Many Elizabethans (e.g., Edward Dyer & Francis Bacon)
   were Rosicrucians    {Rosencrantz => Rosenkreutz}
    In Folio's 2,3, & 4  Rosencrantz was ROSINCROSS
        [In the first Quarto ROSINCROSS is Rossen(CRAFT)!]
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 From: A Visit to Edinburgh and Lodge Canongate Kilwinning #2.
                 Wor. James T. Watson, Jr.

     http://www.freemason.org/scrl/monthly/edinburg.htm  :
--------------------------------------------------------
 <<The "Royal Mile" leads from this castle to Holyrood Castle,
        home of Mary, Queen of Scots, from 1561-1567.>>

  [ Webster's Biographical Dictionary and the DNB assign
    Thomas Sackville as Grandmaster Freemason 1561-1567.]

<<The initiative in forming the Grand Lodge of Scotland was taken by
this Lodge. One of its members, William St. Clair of Rosslyn became
first Grand Master.

  The Lodge motto, "POST NUBILE PHOEBUS" (After the clouds
   the sun), refers to dawn and ancient sun worship.>>

     ["ancient sun worship" => obelisks => Baalbek.]

<<The Annual Festival is held on St. John the Baptist's Day,
           June 24th.>>

          [ June 24, 1604 => Oxford's death ]

<<The present Lodge building was consecrated in December, 1736, and is
the oldest building in the world built for Masonic purposes. On entering
the Lodge room, one is instantly drawn drawn to what appear to be four
alcoves contining statues, two on the north wall and two on the south.
When approached, they are found to be cleverly executed mural paintings
of Lord Byron and Sir Walter Scott on the north wall and Robert Burns
and WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE on the south. These works were completed by
an unknown artist in 1833.>>
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	          Rushton Triangular Lodge
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<<Reputed meeting place of the Gunpowder plot conspirators. Through a
letter of warning written by Tresham to a peer, the plot was exposed.
Catesby was killed and the others taken prisoner when they were too weak
or badly wounded to fight any longer. All were executed on 31 st January
1606 except for Francis Tresham. He was sent to the Tower of London but
not harshly treated. When he died shortly afterwards poison was
suspected but never proved.>>

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1373/n3_v46/18099925/p2/article.jhtml?term=
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/notable%20houses/rushton%20lodge.htm

<<The Triangular Lodge went up between 1593 and 1597. By this time
Sir Thomas felt increasingly victimised - his Catholicism, with the
penalties attendant on it, was a major factor in this. The Lodge is
an allegory on the Trinity and the forbidden Mass. It is built in
two different coloured limestones, to a plan based on an equilateral
triangle. Each side is 33 feet and 4 inches long (i.e. one-third
of a hundred) and the inscriptions on each side contain 33 letters.
    There are three windows in each of the three floors and,
  whenever appropriate, the trefoil which features in the Tresham
coat of arms comes into its own as yet another symbol of the Trinity
  in the trefoil over the door is the motto Tres testimonium dant
(There are three that bear witness) from the first Epistle of St. John.
Everywhere space was found for inscriptions and the emblems or conceits
which were so fashionable at the time. They were intended to convey a
meaning in a more or less disguised form. Where there are layers of
meaning, as in the Tresham buildings, it is likely that some of the
clues still remain unravelled. At the Lodge, Mass was symbolised by
the Lamb and Cross and the Chalice. One inscription is taken from the
preface to the canon of the Mass. Of all Sir Thomas' architectural
creations, the Lodge is the most detailed and complete.>>
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            Baron Munchausen's _Gulli[VER REV]iv[ED]
         OR, THE VICE OF LYING PROPERLY EXPOSED_ (1793)

                      CHAPTER 33
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    http://www.ffutures.demon.co.uk/munch/munch.htm#ch33

  <<The Baron goes to Petersburgh, and converses with the Empress -
Persuades the Russians and Turks to cease cutting one another's Throats,
  and in concert cut a Canal across the Isthmus of Suez - The Baron
discovers the Alexandrian Library, and meets with HERMES TRISMEGISTUS -
Besieges Seringapatam, and challenges Tippoo Saib to single Combat -
     They fight - The Baron receives some Wounds on his Face,
 but at last vanquishes the Tyrant - The Baron returns to Europe,
         and raises the Hull of the Royal GEORGE>>
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                                the Royal GEORGE
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                  King Richard III  Act 1, Scene 1

 CLARENCE   Yea, Richard, when I know; for I protest

          [A]s yet I do not: but, as I can learn,
          [H]e hearkens after prophecies and dreams;
          [A]nd from the cross-row plucks the letter G.

          [A]nd says a WIZARD told him that by G
          [H]is issue disinherited should be;
          [A]nd, for my name of GEORGE begins with G,

           It follows in his thought that I am he.
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Old High German: AHA!      water, river,
          Goth.: AHwA      water, river,
             L.: AQUA      water;
             L.: AQUARIUS, water carrying, n., A WATER CARRIER,

 (E.VERE)=> EWER, n. [OF. EWER, euwier, prop. A WATER CARRIER,
            F.['e]vier a washing place, sink, aigui[`e]re EWER,
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                   33 Decades: 1300 => 1630
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              <<Dante's journey starts on Friday, 8 April, 1300
Canto 33: Dante emerges from Hell and
          sees the stars again on Easter Sunday, 10 April, 1300.>>

http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Italian_Studies/LD/numbers/04/lobner.html

             William Herbert was born on Friday,  8 April, 1580.
   William Herbert died of apoplexy on Saturday, 10 April, 1630
    after 13 years as the Freemason Grandmaster.
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William Herbert's 13th birthday was Palm Sunday:  8 April, 1593
                      = Catholic Easter Sunday:  18 April, 1593.
              Venus & Adonis was registered on:  18 April, 1593.

   E.K. Chambers thought the Sonnets were written to Herbert.
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                      The Divine Comedy
        http://www.angelfire.com/ak/Nyquil/Dante.html

<<Written by Dante Alighieri in 1306 - 21. The time setting when the
book begins is [the night before Good Friday: April 8] 1300, so he uses
his knowledge of the present to "predict" events. It is divided into 3
sections: Inferno, Purgatorio, and Paradiso. Each one of these sections
is divided into 33 cantos (except Inferno, which has 34 cantos),
 which are written in tercets (groups of 3 lines).>>
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  Why didst thou promise such a beauteous day,
  And make me travel forth without my cloak,
  To let base clouds o'ertake me in my way,
  Hiding thy bravery in their rotten smoke?
  'Tis not enough that through the cloud thou break,
  To dry the rain on my storm-beaten face,
  For no man well of such a salve can speak,
  That heals the wound, and cures not the disgrace:
  Nor can thy shame give physic to my grief;
  Though thou repent, yet I have still the loss:
  The offender's sorrow lends but weak relief
  To him [I. cH(eth)] that bears the strong offence's cross.
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         SONNET     33

            TOT    [H]  EONLIEBEGETTEROFTHESEINSVINGS
            ONN   [E T]  SMRWHALLHAPPINESSEANDTHATETE
            RNI  [T(I)E]  PROMISEDBYOVREVERLIVINGPOET
            WIS [H E T H]  THEWELLWISHINGADVENTVRERIN
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  1. Full many a glorious morning have I seen
  2. Flatter the mountain tops with sovereign eye,

   http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/pyramid.html

  3. Kissing with golden face the meadows green,
  4. Gilding pale streams with heavenly alchemy;
  5. Anon permit the basest clouds to ride
  6. With ugly rack on his celestial face,
  7. And from the forlorn world his visage hide,
  8. Stealing unseen to west with this disgrace:
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   Sonnet  34

           T  OTHEONLIEBEGETTEROFTHESEINSVINGSO
          N N  ETSMRWHALLHAPPINESSEANDTHATETERN
         I T I  EPROMISEDBYOVREVERLIVINGPOETWIS
        H E T H  THEWELLWISHINGADVENTVRERINSETT

        T O T   H   EONLIEBEGETTEROFTHESEINSVINGSO
         N N   E T   SMRWHALLHAPPINESSEANDTHATETERN
          I   T I E   PROMISEDBYOVREVERLIVINGPOETWIS
             H E T H   THEWELLWISHINGADVENTVRERINSETT
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           JOYCE: Ulysses, Lestrygonians

-- A MYRIADminded man, Mr Best reminded.
                 Coleridge called [Shakespeare] MYRIADminded.

ï¿½A phrase,ï¿½ says Coleridge, ï¿½which I borrowed from a Greek monk,
     who applies it to a patriarch of Constantinople.ï¿½
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 <<The greatest genius that perhaps human nature has yet produced, our
   MYRIAD-minded Shakspeare. I mean the 'Venus and ADonis', and the
'Lucrece'; works which give at once strong promises of the strength,
and yet obvious proofs of the immaturity, of his genius. From these I
abstracted the following marks, as characteristics of original poetic
genius in general.>>  --  1817  Samuel Taylor Coleridge
----------------------------------------------------------------
                       p[YRAMID]
                        [MYRIAD]
                      [MYRRHA-AD]onis
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<<MYRRHA was so beautiful that her father king Cinyras of Cyprus
 boasted she outshone Aphrodite. Aphrodite sought revenge by
making the girl fall in love with her own father. Clouding Cinyras'
 mind with wine, MYRRHA seduced him, and a child was born from the
incestuous union. After discovering the truth, Cinyras threatened to
kill the pregnant MYRRHA, and committed suicide when she fled. MYRRHA
was then turned into a MYRRHA tree, the trunk of which was SPLIT
by a either a wild BOAR or Eileithyia to release her son ADonis.>>
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Art Neuendorffer


author: lyra

subject: Re: Masonic references in literature

text:
"David L. Webb" <[email]> wrote
in message news:<[email]>...

          thanks!

             lyra


author: Neuendorffer

subject: Solomon incognito

text:
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  In a 1615 verse-letter to Ben Jonson,
    F.B.(Francis Beaumont?) wrote:

                   "Here I would let slip
         (If I had any in me) scholarship,
         And from all learning keep these lines as clear
         as Shakespeare's BEST are, which our heires shall
         HEARE PREACHERS APTE TO THEIR AUDITORS TO SHOWE
         how farr sometimes a mortall man may goe
         by the dimme light of NATURE..."
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APT, v. t. [L. aptare] To fit; to suit; to adapt. [Obs.]
   "That our speech be apted to edification." -Jer. Taylor.
         "To apt their places." --B. Jonson.

 Note that F.B. does NOT say that "Shakespeare IS NATURE's child"
  but only that PREACHERS will be espousing this (ridiculous)
     idea for the edification of the gullible masses.
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		Solomon incognito
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        Ecclesiastes 1: 1 2, "I, the Preacher,

<<A Jewish tradition, recorded in the Aramaic Targum on the Book of
Esther, has it that for many years Solomon was dethroned as King in
Jerusalem and a demon named Ashmadai was ruling in Solomon's disguise,
 while the true king went from city to city claiming in the words
 of Ecclesiastes 1: 1 2, "I, the Preacher, was king over Israel in
Jerusalem." in similar vein came about the popularized story of the
prince and the beggar in which the beggar, temporarily in the clothes of
the prince, is made prince while the true prince be. comes a beggar.>>
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                 "Ecclesiastes:PREACHER"

                   is an anagram for:

                 "Shacespeare circle set"
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         HE(a)RE PREACHERS APTE TO THEIR AUDITORS
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March 6, 1616 Francis Beaumont Tomb in Westminster Abbey:

      <<MORTALITY, behold and           FEAR!
        What a CHANGE OF FLESH is       HERE!
        Think how many royal            BONES
        Sleep within this HEAP OF       STONES:>>
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                               ORB, n. [F.orbe] A GLOBE.
-----------------------------------------------------------
April 23, 1616 William Shakspere grave in Stratford:

      <<Good friend for Iesus sake      F(orb)EAR(e)
        To digg the dust encloased      HE(a)RE:
        Blest be ye man yt spares thes  STONES
        And CURST be he yt moves my     BONES.>>
-------------------------------------------------------
<<The lodge symbol that would always have been available the those
Secret meetings was the CIRCLE on the floor, the center of Masonic lodge
room symbolism. This circle could easily have been scribed in the earth
of a clearing or in the dirt floor of a barn. In the very earliest days
of Public Masonry, when almost all lodge meetings took place in the
private rooms of taverns, the symbols were marked on the floor with
  CHALK.  The custom  developed that the newly admitted brother,
regardless of rank or lineage, was presented with a mop and bucket
  at the end of the meeting, which he used to erase the Masonic
     symbols from the floor.>> - Blorn in Blood_ by Robinson.

  <<(we are back in the presurnames prodromarith period,
      of course just when ENOS CHALKED HALLTRAPS)>> - FW 30
-------------------------------------------------------
                [Hamlet (Quarto 2) 2.2]
          Enter the Players (/MAISTER MASONS).

Ham.You are welcome MAISTERS, welcome all, I am glad to see thee
 well, welcome good friends, oh old friend, why thy face is va-
 lanct since I saw thee last, com'st thou to beard me in Denmark?
 what my young Lady and mistris, by lady your Ladishippe is
 nerer to heauen, then when I saw you last by the altitude of a
 chopine, pray God your voyce like a peece of vncurrant gold,
 BEE NOT CRACKT WITHIN THE RING: MAISTERS you are all welcome. . .
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 There was indeed a Freemason "Shacespeare circle set" that did
        preach of "Shakespeare as NATURE's child":

1623 Ben Jonson:   "Yet I must not give NATURE all.."

1623 Hemmings&Condell: "as he was a happie imitator of NATURE"

1640 Digges:        "NATURE only helped him"

1662 Fuller: "NATURE itself was all the art which was used upon him"

1664 Cavendish:     "truly, he was ... a Natural Poet"

1668 Dryden:  "All the images of NATURE were still present to him"
            "He needed not the spectacles of Books to read NATURE"
            "If his embroideries were burnt down,
     there would still be silVER at the bottom of the melting-pot"

1712 Dennis: "so truly in NATURE"
            "If Shakspeare had these qualities by NATURE.."

1725 Pope:   "If EVER any author DEsERVED the name of an Original,
 it was Shakespear. Homer himself drew not his art so immediately
                         from the fountains of NATURE;
       it proceeded through Aegyptian stainers and channels.."

1818 Hazlitt:  "as true to NATURE as itself."
             "what he says of them is VERy true:
          what he says of their betters is also VERy true."

1841 Carlyle:     "NATURE..sent him forth.."
     "No dining at the FreeMason's TaVERn...Priceless Shakespeare
 was the free gift of NATURE; given altogether silently;-received
 altogether silently, as if it had been a thing of little account."

1850 Melville: "In Shakespeare's tomb lies infinitely more than
Shakepeare EVER wrote. And if I magnify Shakepeare it is not so much
for what he did do but for what he did not do, or refrained from doing.
 For in this world of lies, Truth is forced to fly like a scared
    white doe in the woodlands; and only by cunning glimspes
        will she reveal herself, as in Shakespeare.."
--------------------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer


subject: Re: Masonic references in literature

text:
-------------------------------------------------------------
  In a 1615 verse-letter to Ben Jonson,
    F.B.(Francis Beaumont?) wrote:

                   "Here I would let slip
         (If I had any in me) scholarship,
         And from all learning keep these lines as clear
         as Shakespeare's BEST are, which our heires shall
         HEARE PREACHERS APTE TO THEIR AUDITORS TO SHOWE
         how farr sometimes a mortall man may goe
         by the dimme light of NATURE..."
-------------------------------------------------------------
APT, v. t. [L. aptare] To fit; to suit; to adapt. [Obs.]
   "That our speech be apted to edification." -Jer. Taylor.
         "To apt their places." --B. Jonson.

 Note that F.B. does NOT say that "Shakespeare IS NATURE's child"
  but only that PREACHERS will be espousing this (ridiculous)
     idea for the edification of the gullible masses.
------------------------------------------------------------
                 "Ecclesiastes:PREACHER"

                   is an anagram for:

                 "Shacespeare circle set"
----------------------------------------------------------
         HE(a)RE PREACHERS APTE TO THEIR AUDITORS
----------------------------------------------------------
March 6, 1616 Francis Beaumont Tomb in Westminster Abbey:

      <<MORTALITY, behold and           FEAR!
        What a CHANGE OF FLESH is       HERE!
        Think how many royal            BONES
        Sleep within this HEAP OF       STONES:>>
-----------------------------------------------------------
                               ORB, n. [F.orbe] A GLOBE.
-----------------------------------------------------------
April 23, 1616 William Shakspere grave in Stratford:

      <<Good friend for Iesus sake      F(orb)EAR(e)
        To digg the dust encloased      HE(a)RE:
        Blest be ye man yt spares thes  STONES
        And CURST be he yt moves my     BONES.>>
-------------------------------------------------------
<<The lodge symbol that would always have been available the those
Secret meetings was the CIRCLE on the floor, the center of Masonic lodge
room symbolism. This circle could easily have been scribed in the earth
of a clearing or in the dirt floor of a barn. In the very earliest days
of Public Masonry, when almost all lodge meetings took place in the
private rooms of taverns, the symbols were marked on the floor with
  CHALK.  The custom  developed that the newly admitted brother,
regardless of rank or lineage, was presented with a mop and bucket
  at the end of the meeting, which he used to erase the Masonic
     symbols from the floor.>> - Blorn in Blood_ by Robinson.

  <<(we are back in the presurnames prodromarith period,
      of course just when ENOS CHALKED HALLTRAPS)>> - FW 30
-------------------------------------------------------
                [Hamlet (Quarto 2) 2.2]
          Enter the Players (/MAISTER MASONS).

Ham.You are welcome MAISTERS, welcome all, I am glad to see thee
 well, welcome good friends, oh old friend, why thy face is va-
 lanct since I saw thee last, com'st thou to beard me in Denmark?
 what my young Lady and mistris, by lady your Ladishippe is
 nerer to heauen, then when I saw you last by the altitude of a
 chopine, pray God your voyce like a peece of vncurrant gold,
 BEE NOT CRACKT WITHIN THE RING: MAISTERS you are all welcome. . .
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 There was indeed a Freemason "Shacespeare circle set" that did
        preach of "Shakespeare as NATURE's child":

1623 Ben Jonson:   "Yet I must not give NATURE all.."

1623 Hemmings&Condell: "as he was a happie imitator of NATURE"

1640 Digges:        "NATURE only helped him"

1662 Fuller: "NATURE itself was all the art which was used upon him"

1664 Cavendish:     "truly, he was ... a Natural Poet"

1668 Dryden:  "All the images of NATURE were still present to him"
            "He needed not the spectacles of Books to read NATURE"
            "If his embroideries were burnt down,
     there would still be silVER at the bottom of the melting-pot"

1712 Dennis: "so truly in NATURE"
            "If Shakspeare had these qualities by NATURE.."

1725 Pope:   "If EVER any author DEsERVED the name of an Original,
 it was Shakespear. Homer himself drew not his art so immediately
                         from the fountains of NATURE;
       it proceeded through Aegyptian stainers and channels.."

1818 Hazlitt:  "as true to NATURE as itself."
             "what he says of them is VERy true:
          what he says of their betters is also VERy true."

1841 Carlyle:     "NATURE..sent him forth.."
     "No dining at the FreeMason's TaVERn...Priceless Shakespeare
 was the free gift of NATURE; given altogether silently;-received
 altogether silently, as if it had been a thing of little account."

1850 Melville: "In Shakespeare's tomb lies infinitely more than
Shakepeare EVER wrote. And if I magnify Shakepeare it is not so much
for what he did do but for what he did not do, or refrained from doing.
 For in this world of lies, Truth is forced to fly like a scared
    white doe in the woodlands; and only by cunning glimspes
        will she reveal herself, as in Shakespeare.."
--------------------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer


subject: Re: Masonic references in literature

text:
lyra wrote:

         and for those who would like to try some of the shorter poems
   of Pushkin, and an excerpt from Onegin, in English translation,
   I recall the delight I felt on my first reading of this poet,
   in a book I found in London published at ?ï¿½2? by Everyman (I think)
   which I still love but seems to disappeared somewhere...it will
   make the "reunion" all the more enchanting when I find it!

              lyra


author: David L. Webb

subject: Re: Masonic references in literature

text:
[[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
   the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]

In article <[email]>, Neuendorffer <[email]>
([email]) wrote:

   But Art -- "Ecclesiastes--preacher" is an anagram of

                  See Art's cliche -- crap.

[...]

   But Art -- "Enos chalked halltraps" is an anagram of

                  A.C.N. led Shaksper to Hall --

does that mean that *you* introduced Shakespeare's daughter to her
future husband, Art?  After all, the anagram enjoys an INPNC score of
15/20=75%, which easily surpasses the INPNC score of your proposed
"Shacespeare circle set" -- indeed, since "Shacespeare" is not a
spelling eVER seen elsewhere, the INPNC score of the latter might be
justifiably taken as 0/20.

[...]

   Do you have *evidence* that Jonson was a Mason, Art?  Of course not.

   Do you have *evidence* that Hemmings or Condell was a Mason, Art?
Of course not.

   Do you have *evidence* that Digges was a Mason, Art?  Of course not.

   Do you have *evidence* that Fuller was a Mason, Art?  Of course not.

   Do you have *evidence* that Cavendish was a Mason, Art?  Of course
not.

[More of Art's rubbish snipped]

         David Webb


subject: Re: Masonic references in literature

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author: Greg Reynolds

subject: The Royal Disposition of that Beast

text:
Princess Fined For Dog Attack

The princess comes to hunt here in the park
     -LLL  III, i
Why, this is lunatics! This is mad as a mad dog!
     -MWW  IV, ii
The royal disposition of that beast
     -AYLI  IV, iii
An alligator stuff'd
     -R&J  V, i
Did you never see the picture?
     -12N  II, iii
The muzzle of restraint, and the wild dog
     -H IV, pt II  IV, v
It was not Anne, but a postmaster's boy
     -MWW  V, v
To hear the lamentations of poor Anne
     -RIII  I, ii
Be a kind woman in Windsor, she is one. You must.
     -MWW  II, ii
Charles, good night.
     -HVIII  V, i
Hath a dog money? Is it possible?
     -MoV  I, iii
Like a fawning greyhound in the leash
     -Cor  I, vi
That I am dog-weary
     -ToS  IV, ii
This is strange. who hath got the right Anne?"
     -MWW  V, v
Notwithstanding that, I know Anne's mind,
     -MWW  I, iv
Monday! ha, ha! Well, Wednesday is too soon,
     -R&J  III, iv
Shall I be plain? I wish the bastards dead
     -RIII  IV, ii
No gentler than my dog
     -HV  IV, v
As true a dog as ever fought at head.
     -TA  V, i
Instruct us, boy; what dream, boy?
     -HIV, pt III  III, ii
'Tis a lucky day, boy, and we'll do good deeds on't.
     -WT   III, iii
That I should snarl and bite
     -HVI, part III   V, vi
Dog in madness
     -KL  III, iv
I mean, I walked upon: it is y-cleped thy park.
     -LLL  I, i
Lo, lo, again! Bite him to death, I prithee
     -Temp  III, ii
That dog, that had his teeth before his eyes
     -RIII  IV, iv
Away, unpeaceable dog, or i'll spurn thee hence!
     -ToA  I, i
Anne, yourself shall go first
     -MWW  I, i
Anne is a good girl
     -MWW  I, iv
Truly, I would not hang a dog
     -MAAN  III, iii
These tidings nip me   TA  IV, iv
Sir, he's a good dog, and a fair dog:
     -MWW  I, i

Greg Reynolds
The dog all this while sheds not a tear
     -TGV: II, iii


author: Art Neuendorffer

subject: Re: The Royal Disposition of that Beast

text:
Greg Reynolds wrote:

---------------------------------------------------------------
Only one of the "WOLFISH earls" so plenteous in the plays
   themselves, or some born descendant and knower,
   might seem to be the TRUE author of this post.

Art N.


subject: Re: The Royal Disposition of that Beast

text:
Art Neuendorffer wrote:

It is CNN and Shakespeare. Thought you'd recognize it.

Greg Reynolds
The Early Wolf gets the lamb (at least a gob, Agnes)


subject: Re: The Royal Disposition of that Beast

text:
Greg Reynolds wrote:

          Then I was right.

  Isn't Reynaud a Fox?

Art


subject: Re: The Royal Disposition of that Beast

text:
Art Neuendorffer wrote:

You are as accurate as ever, Art...

NO!

Paul Reynaud, 1878-1966, was a French politician who
served briefly as premier (1940) but was replaced by Philippe
Pï¿½tain, who surrendered to the Germans. Imprisoned by the
Vichy government, Reynaud later served as finance minister
(1948) and vice premier (1953). Did the Vichy sue? Unknown.

Now, Reynard, YES, helluva fox! Has a chicken farm upstate.
Reynard the Fox, is the name of the hero fox in a celebrated
French beast epic "Roman de Renart.", Of German origin,
G. Reinhard, Reginhard, properly, strong in counsel; regin
counsel (akin to Goth. ragin) + hart hard. [See Hard.]
A fox; -- so called in fables or familiar tales, and in poetry.
I don't know how clever he is, but he is sometimes depicted
wearing a sportcoat.

I don't see why you have to make fun of people's names, Art.

Greg Reynolds


author: helen

subject: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
i was very interested in your piece about a certain gay nobleman,as i
am presently studying historical literature


subject: Re: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
"helen" <[email]> wrote:

   If you are talking to me, thanks.

  My thesis is that many of the Great books of the Western World are
essentially humanist propaganda promoted by a powerful Freemason
intelligentsia group. Jame Joyce's _Ulysses_ actually describes a talented
young artist being adopted by a Freemason (Leopold Bloom).

Many of the cryptic passages within Great literature (including Shakespeare)
are only fully understandable within the inside group. However the basic
underlying humanism of _Christmas Carol_, _Huckleberry Finn_, _Uncle Tom's
Cabin_, _Robinson Crusoe_ etc. is clear to all.

Art Neuendorffer


author: Elizabeth Weir

subject: Re: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
"Art Neuendorffer" <[email]> wrote in message news:<[email]>...

Either that or the Shakespeare works are so influential that
subsequent authors drew from it.


subject: Re: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
In article <[email]>,
 "Art Neuendorffer" <[email]>
([email]) wrote:

   Out of curiosity, Art, are there any "Great books of the Western
World" that were NOT the work of your hilarious Masonic conspiracy?

   Which "cryptic passages"?

   The group inside the padded cells?

   Why would the conspiracy bother to keep all this a secret for oVER
four centuries, Art?


author: bobgrumman

subject: Re: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
Why did the Masons keep Joyce in or near poverty for most of his life if he was
doing such good work for them, Art?

Either one or the other, that's for sure.  No possibility that most writers
cover the same general territory because most writers are human beings.  Or that
they drew on Shakespeare AND dozens of the writers he drew on, and many that
came after him.

--Bob G.


subject: Re: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
talented

"David L. Webb" <[email]> wrote :

            You mean YOUR hilarious Masonic conspiracy?

Shakespeare)

"David L. Webb" <[email]> wrote :

        1)         "and more strange return."
        2)       "transferringly measured on"
---------------------------------------------------------------
    1623 Folio only: << and more strange return. hamlet >>

                                              h
                                              a
                                              m
          r o g e r  m a n n e r s,  e. r u t l a n d
                                              e
                                              t
                                              t
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                Hamlet, Prince of Denmark  Act 5, Scene 1

First Clown     What is he that builds stronger than either
                the MASON, the shipwright, or the CARPENTER?

 "The village CARPENTER . . . lays out his work by
  EMPIRICAL rules learnt in his apprenticeship." --H. SPENCER.
--------------------------------------------------------------
  <<[the CARPENTER] forthwith with all the indifferent
  promptitude of his character, proceeded into the forecastle
     and took Queequeg's measure with great accuracy,
  regularly chalking Queequeg's person as he shifted the RULE

     "Ah! POOR FELLOW! he'll have to die now,"
                  ejaculated the Long Island sailor.

     Going to his vice-bench, the CARPENTER for
      convenience sake and general reference, now

            TRANSFERRINGLY MEASURED ON

it the exact length the coffin was to be, and then made the
transfer permanent by cutting two notches at its extremities.>>
----------------------------------------------------------------
      <<transferringly measured on>>

                                          s
          r o g e r  m a n n e r s,  e. r u t l a n d
                                          f
                                          i
                                          y

                       *SUFIY* - WISE, PIOUS
-------------------------------------------------------------
 1623 AD:  Shake-speare, at length thy PIOUS FELLOWES give
          The world thy Workes : thy Workes, by which, out-live
          Thy Tombe, thy name must when that stone is rent,
          And Time dissolves thy Stratford Moniment,

  623 AD: <<45 men of Makka took *OATH OF FIDELITY* to the
     doctrines of the prophet (PBUH) and formed a community
     of property and to perform daily religious practices.
      They added the title of fakir because of renouncing
     attractions of this world, because Mohammed said (pbuh)
          "Al fakru fakhri" - POVERTY IS MY GLORY.>>
-----------------------------------------------------------

"David L. Webb" <[email]> wrote :

              Do you have a padded cell, Dave?

"David L. Webb" <[email]> wrote :

   The propaganda works best when it is not recognized as propaganda.

Art Neuendorffer


subject: Re: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
talented

"bobgrumman" <[email]> wrote

       Bloom didn't have a lot of money & Joyce didn't starve.

Shakespeare)
basic
Tom's

"bobgrumman" <[email]> wrote

writers

        SHAKSPEARE wasn't a "human being!"
                   He was a MONVMENT:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
       STAY PASSENGER, WHY GOEST THOV BY SO FAST,
       READ IF THOV GANST, WHOM ENVIOVS DEATH HATH *PLAST*
       WITH IN THIS *MONVMENT SHAKSPEARE*
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer


subject: Re: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
In article <[email]>,
 "Art Neuendorffer" <[email]>
([email]) wrote:

[...]

   Evidently [email] can't read the question,
or has no answer, so I'll repeat it, slightly reworded so that even
[email] can understand it:

   Out of curiosity, Art, are there any "Great books of the Western
   World" that were NOT the work of the hilarious Masonic conspiracy
   whose existence you hallucinate?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]


subject: Re: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
"David L. Webb" <[email]>

              Yes.


subject: Re: a certain young gay nobleman

text:
In article <[email]>,
 "Art Neuendorffer" <[email]>
([email]) wrote:

   Can you name seVERal of them, Art?  There is a robust consensus
(whose viewpoint is supported by numerous concrete examples) that a
great writer need not be an aristocrat, need not possess a uniVERsity
education, need not have literate parents, need not in some cases even
be a native speaker of the tongue (e.g., Nabokov or Conrad), need not be
loftily indifferent to financial considerations, etc.; it would be
indeed strange is these conditions were not necessary, but being a
Freemason was obligatory!

   I've asked you this question before, but you have neVER had a VERy
satisfactory answer.  Earlier you suggested Monica Lewinsky as a
non-Masonic author; howeVER, "Monica's Story" is a perfect anagram of
"Masonic Story," and "Monica Lewinsky" is an anagram of "Wily, Masonic
Ken," so we must rule out Lewinsky.  Similarly, you have suggested Dr.
Suess, but now you appear to believe that Dr. Seuss must have been a
Freemason after all, since "The Lorax" is an anagram of "Ox, th'Earl."

   What "Great books of the Western World" are NOT the work of the
hilarious Masonic conspiracy whose existence you hallucinate, Art?
Inquiring minds still want to know.