author: Gamma

text:
In article
<[email]>,
harrietp <[email]> wrote:

Are you sure?

Residency is required if a person with a foreign passport seeks to
remain longer than nine months.

Residency is rather hard to gain. Embassies world-wide have been given
an "unofficial" message to look for any way to decline an application.


author: Peter L

subject: Michael Chang supports Beijing's Olympics bid.

text:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2001/06/18/sports1
459EDT0363.DTL


author: el chupacabra

subject: Re: Michael Chang supports Beijing's Olympics bid.

text:
In article <9glsrq$[email]>, [email] says...

What a dope. Did he have press conference when he said this or did somebody
corner him? This is what he should have said, "Sure,  China should host the
Olympics.  Look how much prestige it brought the Nazis".


author: nobody

text:
"el chupacabra" <[email]> wrote in message
news:9gmblu$fpl$[email]...
1
somebody
the

I think Michael Chang is doing the right thing.  The Olympics will put an
international spotlight on Beijing... and having the spotlight on your
usually makes you put on your best behavior.

For example, the Chinese government has recently relaxed the strict
guidelines that restricted the amount of western films allowed in China.
Would they be doing stuff like that if they weren't putting on their best
face for the sake of WTO and Olympics?  I doubt it.


author: Central Scrutinizer

text:
"nobody" <[email]> wrote in message
news:9h2gbf$c2c$[email]...

and i for one would love to see that challenge posed to the PRC leadership.
I would absolutely love for the Fa Lun Gong to mobilize a peaceful protest
during the games (say, outside the stadium) and just watch what China does.
My guess, they will have undercover security flooded throughout the area and
will immediately arrest and detain any protestors.  those that manage to
escape the eyes of the watchers there will probably be allowed to say their
peace, to make things look good for china.

you're correct.  but they aren't doing enough to fool anybody.


author: [redacted]

text:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:10:45 GMT, "Central Scrutinizer"
<[email]> wrote:

I for one would love to see the branch dividians make a march on the
white house. (oh wait they're already dead!)

My guess, would be the white house would send the ATF and immediately
arrest David Koresh and burn down the compound.


text:
<[email]> wrote in message news:[email]...
leadership.
protest
does.

so would i, dork.  i guess you haven't been paying attention- i'm no fan of
the former clinton admin and that includes janet reno.

and
their

ya think?


author: Tyrone

subject: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
I was looking at 2 Nephi (1:5).

Nephi had obtained a land of promise.  a land choice over
all other lands.   This same land would also be a land
of inheritance for all those who would be led out of
other nations to America.

2 Nephi (1:5) - "But, said he, notwithstanding our
afflictions, we have obtained a land of promise, a land
which is choice above all other lands; a land which the
Lord God hath covenanted with me should be a land for
the inheritance of my seed. Yea, the Lord hath
covenanted this land unto me, and to my children
forever, and also all those who should be led out of
other countries by the hand of the Lord".

Is this covenant (to lead people out of other countries
to America) still applicable today?  If no, how do we
decide which of God's covenants are discarded or still
to be observed?  After all, if the land is still covenant
land (as the first part says), why is the second part (to
lead people out of other countries to America) not
followed?

Ty

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author: MikePi

subject: Re: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
Gene Fuller wrote:
Amecica in
belong
it. Isn't

This verse (1:5) is a small glimpse and if we look at 3 Nephi
chapter 21, we see a more fuller description of the
gathering of the saints and the blessings of the Gentiles
upon the choice land (America, or United States).

According to verse 1, the sign will be the gathering in
of the "house of Israel" from their dispersion and
establishing Zion in America.

According to verse 4, it is the wisdom of the Father
that they (the Gentiles it seems) should be established
in this land (America) as a free people.

According to verse 6, the Gentiles would be numbered
among the house of Israel.

According to verse 22, the Gentiles (if repentive) would
come into the covenant and be numbered among the remnant
of Jacob (which were given the land for their inheritance).

A key verse is 2 Nephi 10:19 - "Wherefore, I will
consecrate this land unto thy seed, and them who shall be
numbered among thy seed, forever, for the land of their
inheritance; for it is a choice land, saith God unto me,
above all other lands, wherefore I will have all men that
dwell thereon that they shall worship me, saith God".

The Gentiles are blessed in that they will also receive
America as the land of their inheritance because they will
be numbered among the remnant of Jacob (2 Nephi 21:6,22).

According to verse 23, these Gentiles will assist the
remnant of Jacob, and also as many of the house of Israel
as shall come (or be gathered) that they may build
the city of New Jerusalem.

The gathering of the Jews to America is a key requirement
so that they may help with the Gentiles to build a city
sometime in the future.

According to verse 24, the Gentiles would also assist in
the gathering of the Israelites to America in order to help
build New Jerusalem ... or this means that the Gentiles
would assist to gather all of the Jews to come into
the New Jerusalem in America.

Once the New Jerusalem is completed, then the rest of the
Jews will be gathered home to the land of their
inheritance (verse 28).

Mike


author: Gene Fuller

subject: Re: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
"Tyrone" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Snip

I don't see the covenant to lead others out of other lands and to Amecica in
this passage. I see the covenant as to promising that the land is to belong
not only to Nephi and his descendants but to all that God leads to it. Isn't
there a major difference there?

Thus, I fail to see a basis for the question of how the second part, as you
call it, which I don't see in the passage, is not followed. Are you thinking
of the time that the Church felt it necessary to gather all Saints to
America, and that now we have been instructed that Saints in general should
stay in their places of origin and build up the Church there? I think there
is no conflict, if this is your concern.


author: E. Mark Ping

subject: Re: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
In article <[email]>,
Tyrone  <[email]> wrote:

You've got the cart before the horse.  "To all those who should be led
out of other countries by the hand of the Lord."  Doesn't mean that
all people converted to the Lord will be led out of other countries.


author: Jeff

subject: Re: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
Tyrone wrote:

I'm not sure why the current Presidency/Quorum has not continued with
the gathering process.  For Joseph Smith said that the gathering to
America was very important and commanded by Heavenly Father.

Page 85:  "And first, it becomes an Elder when he is travelling through
the world, warning the inhabitants of the earth to gather together,
that they may be built up an holy city unto the Lord".

Page 92: "In speaking of the gathering, we mean to be understood as
speaking of it according to scripture, the gathering of the elect of
the Lord out of every nation on earth, and bringing them to the place
of the Lord of Hosts, when the city of righteousness shall be built,
and where the people shall be of one heart and one mind, when the
Saviour comes".

In D&C (101:20), Joseph Smith "And, behold, there is none other
place appointed than that which I have appointed; neither shall
there be any other place appointed than that which I have appointed,
for the work of the gathering of my saints".

It was Heavenly Father's command to gather his saints to America
and He never gave a revelation to revoke this command.  Why the foreign
missionaries tell people to stay put in their own country, beats me.
Jeff


subject: Re: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
20 minutes, reduce oven to 325ï¿½.
Bake till medium rare (150ï¿½) and let roast rest.
Pour stock over onions and drippings, carve the meat and
   place the slices in the au jus.

Bisque ï¿½ l?Enfant

Honor the memory of Grandma with this dish by utilizing her good
silver soup tureen and her great grandchildren (crawfish, crab or
lobster will work just as well, however this dish is classically
made with crawfish).

Stuffed infant heads, stuffed crawfish heads, stuffed crab or lobster shells;
   make patties if shell or head is not available
   (such as with packaged crawfish, crab, or headless baby).
Flour
oil
onions
bell peppers
garlic salt, pepper, etc.
3 cups chicken stock
2 sticks butter
3 tablespoons oil

First stuff the heads, or make the patties (see index)
   then fry or bake.
Set aside to drain on paper towels.
Make a roux with butter, oil and flour,
   brown vegetables in the roux, then add chicken stock and
   allow to simmer for 20 minutes.
Add the patties or stuffed heads, and some loose crawfish,
   lobster, long piglet, or what have you.
Cook on low for 15 minutes, then allow it to set for at least
   15 minutes more.
Serve over steamed rice; this dish is very impressive!

Stuffed Cabbage Rolls

Babies really can be found under a cabbage leaf -
or one can a


subject: Re: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
Southern Fried Small-fry

Tastes like fried chicken, which works just as well.
In fact you may want to practice cutting up whole chickens
for frying before you go for the real thing.
Whole chicken is much more efficient and inexpensive than buying pieces.

1 tiny human, cut into pieces
2 cups flour
Onion, garlic
Salt
pepper
garlic powder
cayenne pepper
hot sauce, etc.
Oil for frying

Mix milk, eggs, hot sauce in a bowl, add chopped onion and garlic.
Season the meat liberally, and marinate for several hours.
Place seasoned flour in a paper or plastic shopping bag,
   drop pieces in a few a time, shake to coat thoroughly,
   then deep fry in hot oil (350ï¿½) for about 15 minutes.
Drain and place on paper towels.

Miscarriage with Mustard Greens

Why waste it? Otherwise, and in general, use ham or salt pork to season greens.
The technique of smothering greens can be used with many vegetables;
green beans work especially well. Meat is not necessary every day, don?t
be afraid to alter any dish to vegetarian tastes.

1 premature baby, born dead
Large bunch of mustard greens
2 white onions, 1 cup chopped celery
Vegetable oil (or hog fat)
Salt, pepper, garlic, etc.

Lightly brown onions, celery, garlic and meat in large heavy pot.
Add a little water and


author: Michael

subject: Re: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
browning.
De-glaze with sherry, add the reduced broth.
Finally, put in the root vegetables and simmer for 15 minutes.
Allow to cool slightly.
Place the pie pan in 375 degree oven for a few minutes so bottom crust is not soggy,
   reduce oven to 325.
Fill the pie with stew, place top crust and with a fork, seal the crusts together
   then poke holes in top.
Return to oven and bake for 30 minutes, or until pie crust is golden brown.

Sudden Infant Death Soup

SIDS: delicious in winter, comparable to old fashioned Beef and Vegetable Soup.
Its free, you can sell the crib, baby clothes, toys, stroller... and so easy to
procure if such a lucky find is at hand (just pick him up from the crib and
he?s good to go)!

SIDS victim, cleaned
ï¿½ cup cooking oil
Carrots
onions
broccoli
whole cabbage
fresh green beans
potato
turnip
celery
tomato
ï¿½ stick butter
1 cup cooked pasta (macaroni, shells, etc.)

Remove as much meat as possible, cube, and brown in hot oil.
Add a little water, season, then add the carcass.
Simmer for half an hour keeping the stock thick.
Remove the carcass and add the vegetables slowly to the stock,
   so that it remains boiling the whole time.
Cover the pot and simmer till vegetables are tender
   (2 hours approximately).
Continue seasoning to taste.
Before serving, add butter and pasta,
   serve piping with hot bread and butter.

Offspring Rolls

Similar to Vietnamese style fried rolls, they have lots of meat
(of course this can consist of chicken, beef, pork, or shrimp).
Who can resist this classic appetizer; or light lunch served with
a fresh salad? Versatility is probably this recipe?s greatest virtue,
as one can use the best part of a prime, rare, yearling, or the
morticians occasional horror: a small miracle stopped short by a
drunk driver, or the innocent victim of a drive-by shooting...

2 cu


subject: Re: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
a cabbage leaf -
or one can arrange for ground beef to be found there instead.

8 large cabbage leaves
1 lb. lean ground newborn human filets, or ground chuck
Onions
peppers
celery
garlic
soy sauce
salt pepper, etc
Olive oil
breadcrumbs
Tomato Gravy (see index)

Boil the cabbage leaves for 2 minutes to soften.
In skillet, brown the meat in a little olive oil,
   then add onions, peppers, and celery (all chopped finely)
   and season well.
Place in a large bowl and cool.
Add seasoned breadcrumbs and a little of the tomato gravy,
   enough to make the mixture pliable.
Divide the stuffing among the cabbage leaves then roll.
Place seam down in a baking pan.
Ladle tomato gravy on top,
   and bake at 325ï¿½ for 30 - 45 minutes.

Umbilical Cordon Bleu

Nothing is so beautiful as the bond between mother and child,
so why not consume it?
Children or chicken breasts will work wonderfully also.

4 whole umbilical chords (or baby breasts, or chicken breasts)
4 thin slices of smoked ham, and Gruyere cheese
Flour
eggwash (milk and eggs)
seasoned bread crumbs
1 onion
minced
salt
pepper
butter
olive oil

Pound the breasts flat (parboil first if using umbilical
   cords so they won?t be tough).
Place a slice of ham and cheese on each, along with some minced onion
   then fold in half, trimming neatly.
Dredge in flour, eggwash, then seasoned breadcrumbs;
   allow to sit for a few minutes.
Sautï¿½ in butter and olive oil until golden brown,
   about 6 minutes on each side.

Shish Kababes

As old as the hills, this technique has employed seafood, beef, pork, lamb,
poultry, and vegetables; just about anything can be grilled, and young humans
are no exception!

High quality marinade (Teriyaki and garlic perhaps)
1 inch cub


subject: Re: 2 Nephi (1:5) - coming to America

text:
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:04:01 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

Reading it carefully, the answer is that the covenant pertains to an
inheritance and that it is "forever."  The covenant imposes no particular
obligation on anyone's part to go GET anyone; although other commandments
do obligate believers to carry a message of the gospel to the whole world.
 If they come to the promised land AND they did so by the hand of the
 Lord, THEN we can suppose they are heirs of this covenant.  How they got
 here is not part of it.

Sincerely,
Michael


author: Sylvester & Tweety

subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
Lady Veteran <[email]> wrote in message news:<[email]>...

EVERY bachelor who lives on his own does ALL of that on his own.

Only a complete simpleton would have serious doubts....


author: Lady Veteran

subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
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On 8 Apr 2004 04:18:18 -0700, [email]
(Sylvester & Tweety) wrote:

That applies to women living on their own also.  Why did you leave
that part out??

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
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author: Sky King

subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
Lady Veteran <[email]> wrote in message news:<[email]>...

My mother and FATHER...how sexist for you to think otherwise...and this was only
until I was old enough to help out.


subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
Lady Veteran <[email]> wrote in message news:<[email]>...

Becuase MEN don't complain about the horrible oppression of feeding themselves.
Women do.

Case closed.


subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
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On 8 Apr 2004 16:12:17 -0700, [email]
(Sylvester & Tweety) wrote:

SOME women does not mean all women.

Stereotyping is a disease characterized by hardening of the
categories.

Generalize on your own time.

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
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subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
Lady Veteran <[email]> wrote in message news:<[email]>...

The rarity of the exception demonstrates the predominance of the rule.


subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
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On 9 Apr 2004 03:24:49 -0700, [email]
(Sylvester & Tweety) wrote:

Oh bullshit. God didn't die and leave you in charge. Get over it.

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
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ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
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subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
Lady Veteran <[email]> wrote in message news:<[email]>...

So rarity of something indicates its PREDOMINANCE!?1??!?!

Get a clue, lezbo.


subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:07:00 GMT, Lady Veteran <[email]>
wrote:

I haven't been following this exchange closely and don't really know
which of you I agree more with. However, I would like to point out
that

a) Sylvester  IS on his own time and he can generalize all he wants

b) the rarity of the exception does indeed demonstrate the
     predominance of the rule

so that part at least  isn't bullshit, whether God is dead or not. So
maybe you should get over it.


subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
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On 14 Apr 2004 06:02:41 -0700, [email]
(Sylvester & Tweety) wrote:

Stick it up your ass, pansy

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Be Do" Sinatra
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subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:16:57 GMT, [email] wrote:

That really makes you an expert? You just shot yourself in the foot.

Deal with it.

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
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ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
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subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
Lady Veteran <[email]> wrote in message news:<[email]>...

What, so you can sniff it?


subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 18:58:56 GMT, Lady Veteran <[email]>
wrote:

Uh huh. You snip out the points I make and pretend I never made them.
I didn't shoot myself anywhere, halfwit, but you've shot your own
credibility to hell. Again. If you had an answer for what I said you'd
have made it. But, just in case you have the nerve to offer an
argument instead of snipping what you don't like, I'll offer again
that

a) Sylvester  IS on his own time and he can generalize all he wants

b) the rarity of the exception does indeed demonstrate the
     predominance of the rule

So deal with it.


subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
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On 15 Apr 2004 10:21:57 -0700, [email]
(Sylvester & Tweety) wrote:

Just what this world needs-anothe ass sniffing neutered male with
inability to get it up. You always believe what you read and so
therefore you think I am a lesbian. I have news for you. I am more
straight than you are....

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Be Do" Sinatra
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subject: Re: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:25:36 GMT, [email] wrote:

  Ladies should not be in the military.

     The leftists who rule America are for having a unisex country and
for fighting "sexism". This should be replaced by a nation that is for
manhood and womenhood. Not only are the sexes different, but the
reason we are attracted to the opposite sex is precisely because they
are different.

   In 1852 Emma Snodgrass was arrested in Boston for wearing pants.
Today women are allowed to be policemen and soldiers. Men don't need
to be protected by female policemen.
We don't have to have the kind of society we have now.  The
government, and the media, and the schools, may all be leftist
enemies, but their ways are so contrary to human nature that it can be
changed.

    The two main forces that reject the unisex society are religion
and nationalism. There certainly
wasn't much feminism going on in a Muslim country like Afganistan. And
it is no coincidence that the USA bombed Afganistan. The USA and its
masters the Jews are the enemy and that is the first thing we need to
be clear about if we are going to change things. There were also
Nationalist countries that were also bombed by the USA and the other
leftists. The media will tell us how terrible they say these countries
were. We must always remember that the media is the enemy and they are
the ones pushing unisex culture on us.

   Feminism is something we must always fight against. But a normal
man who considers women his enemy must eventually go mad. Feminism may
be a major symptom of what is wrong with this country but it is only a
symptom. The Jewish control of the media and society is the disease.
And feminism is Jewish:

   Gloria Steinem was a Jew. Bella Abzug was a Jew. Betty Friedan was
a Jew.

"THE JEWISH 100: A Ranking Of the Most Influential Jews Of All Time"
By Michael Shaprio

# 56 Betty Friedan (b. 1921)

Born Betty Naomi Goldstein to Harry and Miriam (Horowitz) Goldstein in
Peoria,
Illinois, educated at Smith College, married in 1947 to Carl Friedan,
the
mother of three children, divorced in 1969, activist, best-selling
author,
professor, a founder of the National Organization for Women (NOW), the
National
Women's Political Caucus, and the First Women's Bank, researcher,
journalist,
Democrat, clinical psychologist, and grandmother, Betty Friedan was
the most
influential feminist of the postwar era. Deemed by Marilyn French and
others as
an "initiator of the 'second wave' of feminism, " Friedan's writings
and
lectures, including the highly influential books THE FEMININE MYSTIQUE
and THE
SECOND STAGE, synthesized women's views on what equality meant and how
to live
and work...
When the war against fascism ended two decades later, four million
women lost
their jobs to returning GIs. Women were again told that their place
was in the
home. The freedom to work to build up and defend their nation was
over. Men
would earn the family's bread. What the boys needed was a warm place
to come
home to every night. Ironically, American soldiers had accepted some
of the
values toward women (Kinder, Kuche, Kirche - children, kitchen,
church) as the
Nazis they thought they had defeated...

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subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:25:36 GMT, [email] wrote:

I am on my own time and his right to generalize ends where a member
of the generalized group objects (that would be me)

Exception? You mean that there are no women out there that run their
own household and deal with troubles without  depending on a man to
make it all better?

What planet are you from REALLY? I will concede that there are some
whiney babies out there but they are the exception and not the rule.

Ok, if you want your silliness to be repeated, so be it.

You want to spout more nonsense? Are you upset that you don't have a
woman to "rescue?"

Women do things for themselves these days. If a guy wants to help she
will let him... and that is giving permission-not because isn't up to
the task.

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
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author: Jim Dutton

subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
In article <[email]>,
Lady Veteran  <[email]> wrote:

 Straight being defined as a Boar lover.

 -Jeem, HTH Bristelback

Read about the internets biggest kook/pedophile/obese/
chronicly unemployed/women beater. ie the worst of the internet:
[email]
http://www.pat-acceptance.org
Feed blobbi the psychopath a hog
http://pat-acceptance.org/bobbi.html

=========================================================================
**whoop whoop chany alert**
now me, i wouldnt call chanby a philistine.

he's a fanboy. an angry one ... much like the angry ape in the passage
from Measure For Measure that i quoted above. and accordingly we see
chabny once again adopting the cartoontoothed battle-postures of Quake
Arena in order to give his inferiority complex a temporary boner, a
sad, tiny, angry, miniature boner that will last long enough to drop
doomed legacyless chanbyseed across multiple pages of the japanese
preteen rape comix that he holds so defensively close to his heart.
-cb

 Why Steve Chaneys most adament supporter says he's insane:

 In article <[email]>,
 Subject: Re: Speaking of columbine
 Date: Thu Aug 15 11:47:02 CDT 2002
 Kthulah  <[email]> wrote:
 The answer as to the whys would be:
 Because he was already sick, and people (some who even stated that he
 was sick) pushed him and pushed him until he snapped.
 I don't push crazy people.
 There's a reason I don't talk to certain people here.  There's a reason
 that if I do talk to certain other people here, it's very light or very
 constructive.  Whatever may go on in your little world, I've seen people
 go over the edge.


subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 11:32:01 -0500, neptune3 <[email]>
wrote:

I should take seriously a person that says that feminism is a Jewish
conspiracy? Jews are the most proactive people I know.

If Jews are involved chances are that the cause is a good one.

As for "ladies being   in the military...

stuff it.

LV

Lady Veteran
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when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
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subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:18:46 GMT, Lady Veteran <[email]>
wrote:

No, actually, his right to generalize continues despite your
objections. He doesn't have to stop generalizing because you say so
anymore than you have to stop being a sexist pinhead when he says so.
Who died and left you in charge? Hey, was it God?

There are a whole mess of whiny babies out there, on all manner of
issues. Some women get on reasonably well without men, others do not.
I've never done a survey and I have no percentages to offer. The only
point I was offering in b) was that, as our fathers told us, the
exception proves the rule. You two may fight about which is the
exception all you like, it's fine with me.

Uh huh. You have nothing to offer for argument so you go right to the
ad hom attack.

And no, I'm not upset that I don't have a woman to rescue. In my line
of work I rescue women from their own ignorance and stupidity on a
daily basis. They even call me at home on the weekends. I have plenty
of women to rescue, and for those who are capable of listening and
following time-proven advice I can completely turn their lives around.
Sadly, too many of them are not capable of taking good advice. If they
were, they wouldn't be in the mess they are in the first place.

Some do, some don't.  In my professional life I've gone from the shop
floor to the corporate headquarters (the shop was a lot more fun) and
along the way I've had women coming to me at least weekly for help
with their dumb-ass problems.

The thing about women is, although in most areas they will never
perform at the same level as men, they are still capable of taking
care of most of their own problems if they will just try. So many of
them just won't though. It's frustrating as hell. I'm happy to help
anyone once, twice, maybe three times. After the third time though,
you should have learned enough from watching to at least take a shot
at it yourself.

Guys like to help. That's one of the great things about guyness. But
don't pretend that chicks are doing us a favour by "giving permission"
for us to help. Women should be up to the task, but they aren't. Women
are not doing things for themselves, and they never were.


subject: Re: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:01:04 GMT, Lady Veteran <[email]>
wrote:

   Gloria Steinem was a Jew. Bella Abzug was a Jew. Betty Friedan was
a Jew.

"THE JEWISH 100: A Ranking Of the Most Influential Jews Of All Time"
By Michael Shaprio

# 56 Betty Friedan (b. 1921)

Born Betty Naomi Goldstein to Harry and Miriam (Horowitz) Goldstein in
Peoria,
Illinois, educated at Smith College, married in 1947 to Carl Friedan,
the
mother of three children, divorced in 1969, activist, best-selling
author,
professor, a founder of the National Organization for Women (NOW), the
National
Women's Political Caucus, and the First Women's Bank, researcher,
journalist,
Democrat, clinical psychologist, and grandmother, Betty Friedan was
the most
influential feminist of the postwar era. Deemed by Marilyn French and
others as
an "initiator of the 'second wave' of feminism, " Friedan's writings
and
lectures, including the highly influential books THE FEMININE MYSTIQUE
and THE
SECOND STAGE, synthesized women's views on what equality meant and how
to live
and work...
When the war against fascism ended two decades later, four million
women lost
their jobs to returning GIs. Women were again told that their place
was in the
home. The freedom to work to build up and defend their nation was
over. Men
would earn the family's bread. What the boys needed was a warm place
to come
home to every night. Ironically, American soldiers had accepted some
of the
values toward women (Kinder, Kuche, Kirche - children, kitchen,
church) as the
Nazis they thought they had defeated...

proactive? The were active in communism.

Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:

"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.


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Well in 47 years of doing just that it is interesting being told I
don't measure up....

I am so glad that I didn't expect help. It has made me a stronger
person.

LV

Lady Veteran
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when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:22:26 -0500, neptune3 <[email]>
wrote:

I take it you don't like Jews. Like other losers you have no personal
reason for not liking them-you tend to believe what you read by other
losers that are unable to accept responsibility for their own
shortcomings. How easy it is to blame Jews...

Stick that up your swastika you nazi.

LV

Lady Veteran
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when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:02:08 +0200, "Volker"
<volker-rogl(nospam-delete)@web.de> wrote:

Interesting that someone from Germany would say that....The women of
your Teutonic legends would disagree. A woman rules the world where
it counts. She controls the gates to paradise. She influences the
children. She has direct influence on the male of the species to sway
his thought and his mood.

She already rules the world.

LV

Lady Veteran
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"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
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author: Mitchell Holman

subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
"Volker" <volker-rogl(nospam-delete)@web.de> wrote in news:40778f4f_2
@news.athenanews.com:

    Oh, I don't know. It might make for a
nice change. As long as she would accept
responsibility commensurate with power....


author: Philip Lewis

subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
"Lady Veteran" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
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| On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:02:08 +0200, "Volker"
| <volker-rogl(nospam-delete)@web.de> wrote:
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| >VERY good, that NEVER any female will rule this world :-)
| >
| Interesting that someone from Germany would say that....The
women of
| your Teutonic legends would disagree. A woman rules the world
where
| it counts. She controls the gates to paradise. She influences
the
| children. She has direct influence on the male of the species
to sway
| his thought and his mood.
|
| She already rules the world.

So the women under the taliban were hard core masochists I
suppose.?


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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:40:26 GMT, Mitchell Holman
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That is the way it should be. Responsibility goes with power.

LV

Lady Veteran
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when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:34:53 +0100, "Philip Lewis"
<[email]> wrote:

I am not talking prisoners here. That is what those women were and
are-prisoners.

LV

Lady Veteran
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when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
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subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
Lady Veteran <[email]> wrote in
news:[email]:

    Unless you are the current president,
whose administration is not responsible
for anything.......


subject: Re: IF, women ruled the world...

text:
"Lady Veteran" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
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| On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:34:53 +0100, "Philip Lewis"
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| >
| >"Lady Veteran" <[email]> wrote in message
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| >| On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:02:08 +0200, "Volker"
| >| <volker-rogl(nospam-delete)@web.de> wrote:
| >|
| >| >VERY good, that NEVER any female will rule this world :-)
| >| >
| >| Interesting that someone from Germany would say that....The
| >women of
| >| your Teutonic legends would disagree. A woman rules the
world
| >where
| >| it counts. She controls the gates to paradise. She
influences
| >the
| >| children. She has direct influence on the male of the
species
| >to sway
| >| his thought and his mood.
| >|
| >| She already rules the world.
| >
| >So the women under the taliban were hard core masochists I
| >suppose.?
|
| I am not talking prisoners here. That is what those women were
and
| are-prisoners.

Well then - women to the rescue eh? ;-o)
BTW - Harpy Easter! :-o)


author: Iamhere

subject: Re: Hey Topaz how does this fot with the concept of a white master race?

text:
On Feb 12, 12:16 pm, "Beacon" <[email]> wrote:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
If as some state, the blacks are responsible for the greatest number
of crimes in America,then the police nationwide should applaud them
for creating their jobs.

Iamhere


author: Al Smith

subject: Re: The Satan of Islam: Land and demography

text:
Well, to be fair, Jews control the media in North America because
they are good at it. In a free society (something ours is rapidly
ceasing to be) ownership and control will natural fall to those
who are the most competent. Jews are good at communication. They
always have been. Unless we want a society where the government
says who can own the television stations and newspapers, and who
can't, we have to live with a situation where the most competent
have control, and those are the Jews.

I'm not saying this is a healthy situation for our society -- it
is not -- but in a free society the solutions are not necessarily
easy or obvious. It is very unhealthy to have a small group, the
Jews, able to disseminate propaganda at will, and to completely
control the public debate on important issues, such as the Middle
East, but that is the situation under which we all live in North
America.


author: Beacon

text:
"Iamhere" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
to
"African"
more
gaol.
e.g.
-

Stupid and fallacious reasoning. Based on that we can contend:

War keeps soldiers in jobs so that justifys war!

Litter keeps road sweepers in jobs so that justifies littering.

If people committed less crime littered less and ther was less war we could
spend all the money saved on making things even BETTER!


author: Topaz

subject: Re: Re: The Satan of Islam: Land and demography

text:
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:51:27 GMT, Al Smith <[email]>
wrote:

 No, their media is filled with evil propaganda.

"Special Victims Unit is NBC's sleazy, sex-crime spinoff of Law and
Order.

The April 4th, 2003, episode was about two brothers who went on a
crime spree. They held up small groups of people with a single gun,
forced them to strip and have sex with one another -- including
homosexual sex -- and then shot them in the head. The victims were
robbed of money, watches, jewelry, and their ATM cards. (They were
forced to give their PIN numbers.) One couple was engaged, and the
woman's engagement ring was stolen. In one crime, the victims' SUV was
stolen. By my count, eleven people were killed, and two more were
abducted. Moreover, it turned out that the older brother beat up his
father, homosexually raped his younger brother, and tried to frame him
so he would take the blame for both of them.

Now this crime might remind VNN readers (and precious few others) of
the Wichita Massacre of December 14, 2000, in which two brothers,
Reginald and Jonathan Carr, held up five people with a single gun,
including a couple who were planning to be married. They raped the
women and forced their victims to have sex with one another, including
homosexual sex. The Carrs then forced their victims to withdraw money
from their ATMs. They stole money, watches, jewelry, the engagement
ring, and a SUV. They then they drove their victims to an icy field,
shot all five in the head, then ran over their bodies. Amazingly, one
woman survived.

 There is no doubt that Special Victims Unit episode 86 is based on
the Wichita Massacre. But there are two main differences between the
Kansas and New York versions. First of all, in the TV show the
criminals are far worse: they kill more people, and although one of
them seems so pathetic he is almost sympathetic, the other is a
monster who raped and framed his brother and beat his father. Second,
in the Special Victims Unit episode, the criminals are two handsome,
blue-eyed White men, whereas the Carr brothers were ugly, scary-
looking Niggers.

Why was the race of the killers changed to adapt the Wichita Massacre
for nationwide broadcast on NBC? For the same reason that the Wichita
Massacre was not given nationwide coverage on NBC or any other
network: the killers were Black and the victims were White. Now, the
networks did not spike the story because heinous Black-on-White crimes
are so unusual that giving them national coverage would mislead people
into thinking such crimes are common. That didn't stop the networks
from giving national coverage to the killing of the Black James Byrd
by Whites in Jasper, Texas. In fact, Black-on-White crime is far more
common than White-on-Black crime, but this fact is consciously hidden
from the populace by the television networks while they subject Whites
to a neverending guilt trip for the comparatively rare crimes they
commit against Blacks. This kind of propaganda may explain why the
victims in Wichita went to their deaths like sheep.

The sadistic and savage nature of both crimes indicates that the
killers were motivated by more than just greed. In the case of the
Wichita massacre, that motive was racial hatred of Whites. In the
Special Victims Unit episode, the motive could not be racial, so it
was ascribed to resentment against rich people.

And why were the crimes of the fictional killers made so much worse?
The main agenda of the writers was to exploit the Wichita Massacre
while concealing the racial aspect. But they may have had a subsidiary
agenda. Since they know that the internet makes it impossible for them
to keep everyone ignorant of the Wichita Massacre, they may have
decided to defuse its racial element and its shock value by showing
that Whites can do the same sort of thing, but far worse.

The Jewish agenda of the mass media systematically conceals Black
criminality and morally intimidates well-meaning Whites from
protecting themselves against it. This cultural atmosphere made the
Wichita Massacre possible. The networks would not give national
coverage to the real crime. But it was too lurid for the media Jews to
leave alone. So they took the crime that their brethren helped create,
scrubbed it of racial truths, and turned it into another piece of
anti-White propaganda to help lull the victims of the next massacre to
sleep.

What town will the next massacre be named for? Will it be yours?"

THE CAT LADY

------------------------

Additional information on SVU and the men behind it:

The series is filmed on location in New York City by Wolf Films in
association with Universal Television and Studios USA. Its producers:

Neal Baer - Executive Producer (cannot be ascertained if Baer is a
jew,
but Baer is a common jewish name; Baer is an MD as well as a writer;
he was the MD-adviser behind E.R., and now SVU

Dick Wolf - Executive Producer (a New York City Catholic who wrote
"School Ties" (1992) about anti-jew bigotry at a prep school)

Ted Kotcheff - Executive Producer (best friend of Canadian jew
novelist Mordecai Richler; married to possible jewess named Marburg)

Peter Jankowski - Executive Producer

Dick Wolf - Creator (note that one of his co-producers on the Crime &
Punishment production team, Bill Guttentag, made the "documentary"
"Hate.com" for HBO)

The matrix of jews and jew-friendlies from which SVU emerges makes
inconceivable the accurate depiction of interracial crime, and
guarantees whites will be portrayed as uniquely vicious, violent,
greedy and dangerous -- the opposite of the truth. Jew Ben Stein
described the mentality at work in his book The View From Sunset
Boulevard, a review of which you can read here.

The company that produces SVU for NBC is Universal, whose president is
Steve Rosenberg, the jew marketer behind Jerry Springer, Maury Povich,
and Sally Jesse Raphael - jews all. Jerry Springer, if you haven't
heard of him, is not merely the host of the sleaziest talk show in the
history of the world, but an ex-mayor of Cincinnati famous for paying
a prostitute with a city check.

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/vnn/showEssay.asp?essayID=1172

 No, it falls to those with the money, due to the debt-money system,
it falls to the Jews.

The Jews Are Our Misfortune
By Dr. William Pierce

If you've been listening to many of my broadcasts you will know that
the issue I talk about most often is that of media control. In nearly
every broadcast I have pointed out that the people who control the
mass media of news and entertainment are able to manipulate the
opinions and attitudes of about 95 per cent of the population. I have
pointed out
that the media bosses do this manipulation deliberately and in
collusion with one another, taking advantage of the compelling need
most people have to conform their ideas and their behavior to a
perceived norm.

The media bosses use their control over the mass media of
entertainment -- and to a lesser extent over the news media -- to
create an artificial norm that is presented to the public through
television, motion pictures, advertising, and other media, and this
artificial norm is the one perceived as real by most of the public.
Through their control of public opinion the media bosses also control
the democratic political process and governmental policy in a way that
is advantageous to them and disadvantageous to the White public. And
these media bosses are overwhelmingly Jews.

That has been the message I have presented over and over again in many
of these broadcasts. I have talked about different facets of Jewish
media control and have presented different specifics, different
details, in various broadcasts. I've discussed a number of different
Hollywood films or television shows as specific examples of the way in
which the Jews use their media control to brainwash the public, to
promote
fashions and styles and behavior that are harmful to our people but
that advance the long-term schemes of the Jews to further dominate and
exploit our society.

 (Some of this may be outdated today, but it still explains why things
are the way they are)

I've talked about specific Jews who control various segments of the
mass media, and I've pointed out specific instances of the destructive
way in which they use their control. I've talked about the Jewish
media boss Sumner Redstone and his control of MTV and CBS and the
Hollywood film studio Paramount Pictures. I've talked about the Jewish
media boss Michael Eisner and his control of the Disney Company and
ABC. I've talked about the Jewish media boss Gerald Levin and his
control of Time Warner and CNN. I've talked about the Jewish media
boss Edgar Bronfman and his control of the largest segment of the
popular music industry and Universal Studios in Hollywood. And I've
talked about dozens of other Jewish media bosses and the media they
control and the specific ways in
which they use those media. In particular, during the past few months
I've talked about several recent Hollywood films which deliberately
target teenaged White girls and brainwash them with the notion that it
is fashionable for them to have sex with Black males.

And of course, I've talked about the Jewish control of the news media
as well as the entertainment media. In a way similar to their use of
the entertainment media to set popular fashions, the Jewish media
bosses distort and censor the news in order to give the public a
distorted picture of what is happening in the world. I've given
several very
specific examples of this Jewish management of the news in recent
months.

I've talked about the total blackout at the national level of the news
of the atrocious rape and massacre of Whites in Wichita, Kansas, by
Blacks last December, and I've talked about the almost total
suppression of the news of the Black racial attacks on Whites in
Seattle in the Mardi Gras riot at the end of February this year. I
also talked about
the downplaying of the racial aspects of the Black rioting in
Cincinnati in April of this year, about the failure of the news media
outside the immediate Cincinnati area to mention the deliberate
targeting of Whites, especially White women, by the Black rioters. And
I described the gross distortions in the news coverage of the racial
politics in York,
Pennsylvania, that led to the current White mayor of York being
charged in May with the killing of a Black during a Black race riot in
York 32 years ago.

I have pointed out repeatedly how all of this suppression of the news
and distortion of the news is aimed at creating and maintaining a
false picture in the public mind of racial conflict in the United
States. In this false picture Whites always are the aggressors, Blacks
or other non-Whites are the innocent victims, and the root of all
racial conflict
is White racism.

In a number of my broadcasts I've discussed at length why the Jews do
what they do: why they use their media control in such a deceptive and
destructive way, what their motives are. I've also talked about how
they collaborate. I've pointed out that their propaganda policies are
not formulated independently, but that they have a coherent party line
that
they all follow. I've given a number of specific examples of this.
Well, all of these things that I've talked about have not gone
unnoticed by the Jewish media bosses themselves. When people expose
their activities or their scheming they pay attention. In particular,
they have been paying attention to these American Dissident Voices
broadcasts and to the work of my organization, the National Alliance.
They read what's on our Web sites at natvan.com and natall.com and
resistance.com, and they talk about it among themselves. This shows up
pretty clearly in the uniform way in which their media respond to us.
Whether it's the Associated Press or Time magazine or the Washington
Post or a television news commentator anywhere in the United States,
they always use the same
phrasing in talking about us. They always use the word "hate" in
referring to us. They always say that the National Alliance is the
"most dangerous organized hate group" in America, despite the fact
that all we do is disseminate to the public the truth about what
they're doing. That's what they regard as "dangerous" and as "hate."

If you want to see a current indicator of the fact that they do think
about us, go to the Web site promoting Steven Spielberg's new
movie,A.I. There you'll see a parody of a part of the National
Alliance's Web site in the form of a page headed "Who Is the
Anti-Robot Militia?" It's obviously copied, almost word for word, from
the page "Who Is the National Alliance?" on our Web site. It's
difficult for me to understand what they hoped to accomplish with this
parody. Perhaps they believe that it will make people take us less
seriously.

Somewhat less quirky but much more directly deceptive are their
standard smokescreen responses. It used to be that whenever I would
raise the issue of Jewish monopoly control of the mass media of news
and entertainment during an interview or on a call-in program, I would
hear the response from a Jew or an apologist for the Jews: "What about
Ted
Turner? He's not a Jew," as if that negated everything I had said. Of
course, that response was used before Ted Turner's CNN was taken over
by the very Jewish Time Warner. And now that Ted Turner has been eased
out of all decision-making positions in the cable news network he
built and has been replaced by Jews, one doesn't hear the Ted Turner
response any longer.

The standard responses today, the ones I hear as often as I used to
hear the Ted Turner response, are the "it's the shareholders" and the
"it's the big bankers." Whenever I start naming names -- whenever I
begin talking about the control over the media wielded by Michael
Eisner or Sumner Redstone, for example, a Jew will pop up with the
response:
"Those guys don't control the media. It's the shareholders who control
the media. Eisner and Redstone are just employees. The shareholders
tell them what to do." A variation on this theme is, "Eisner and
Redstone don't own the media. It's the big banks that own all of the
media, and most of the big bankers are Gentiles."

Well, of course, that's not really true, and they know it's not true.
The big Jewish media bosses are mostly quite autonomous. Sumner
Redstone, for example, owns outright two-thirds of the shares in his
media empire. His personal fortune is more than 12 billion dollars,
according to Forbes magazine this month. I'm quite sure he doesn't
check
with any shareholders before he dreams up some new piece of
race-mixing filth for MTV.

As for Gentile bankers telling the Jewish media bosses what kind of
propaganda they must produce for the public, that's total nonsense. I
haven't yet done a study of the investment banking industry to
determine what percentage of Jews and what percentage of Gentiles are
involved in it, but one thing that's certain is that the Gentile
bankers would faint dead away at the thought of telling Jewish media
bosses such as Michael Eisner or the Sulzberger family or the
Newhouses or Sumner Redstone to cut back on the race-mixing
propaganda. Gentile bankers as a class are rich, deracinated capons,
whose only interest is money.

Every Jewish propaganda medium -- CBS or MTV or Time magazine or the
New York Times -- is staffed from top to bottom with Jews, and they
all know what they're doing. They work as a tribe, as a swarm of
termites gnawing at the foundations of our existence. There is total
agreement among the media Jews as to the general thrust of their
propaganda. They may disagree on many of the details -- they may even
compete against each other for a bigger slice of the media pie -- but
all agree on the general goals of degrading and subverting Gentile
civilization, of corrupting Gentile institutions, of mongrelizing our
race. Again, the Jews work as a tribe, and that is the source of their
strength and their success.

Gentile bankers, on the other hand, work only for themselves. They
would not dream of combining and using their financial strength to
protect our people from the Jews. They are terrified of the Jews, of
the media. The more money they have, the more selfish and the more
cowardly they are. The huge difference, the decisive difference,
between the Jews and our people is that they work as a tribe, and we
work as individuals. They
work together, rich Jews and poor Jews, for their common tribal
interests, against us, and until now we have failed to organize
effectively to defend ourselves against them.

Anyway, my point is that their defense against my exposure of their
activities and their power over our government is orchestrated - that
is, they've all gotten together and decided what their defense will be
-- and it's a deliberate lie. As I continue to expose the destructive
activities of the Jewish media bosses, you will continue to hear them
and their apologists respond that they really don't have any power,
that it's the Gentile shareholders and the Gentile bankers who control
the media. A lot of dimwits will believe that lie. A lot of couch
potatoes, a lot of soccer moms, a lot of baseball fans, a lot of
lemmings, will
believe that it's not the Jew Sumner Redstone who deliberately uses
MTV to corrupt White teenagers; instead it's some cabal of Gentile
shareholders and Gentile bankers who tell him what to do, and Redstone
is only an employee who follows their orders.

I think it's time for us to orchestrate our exposure of the Jewish
media. I think it's about time for the public, lemmings and all, to
begin hearing a uniform charge against them, a uniform statement of
our opposition to them. How about this: The Jews are our misfortune.
That's simple, and it's true, and it's easy to remember. Repeat after
me: The
Jews are our misfortune. Let's use that statement. Let's let everyone
hear it. Let's impress it on everyone's consciousness: The Jews are
our misfortune.

Of course, when I say the Jews are our misfortune, I'm not talking
only about the Jewish media bosses. I'm not talking only about the
Jews at the top, such as Sumner Redstone and the Sulzbergers and
Michael Eisner and the others who formulate and direct the propaganda
line against Gentile society; I'm talking about the whole tribe, and I
believe that message comes across in the statement, the Jews are our
misfortune. Let me tell you what the standard lemming response will be
to that statement, the response that they have been taught and will
parrot back.

First, from the religious lemmings it will be something like this:
"Oh, no, the Jews aren't our misfortune, we owe everything to the
Jews. Don't you know that Jesus was a Jew and God was his father? That
makes God a Jew. We must do what the Jews tell us. They are God's
people." I'm sure that argument is embarrassing to some of the more
sophisticated
apologists for the Jews, but many Christian Fundamentalists use it,
and I've heard it often.


text:
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:19:23 -0000, "Beacon" <[email]>
wrote:

  This could be made safe. They could use total body protection and
air fed respirators if necessary.

 We shouldn't put women in danger if there is a way to avoid it.

 Iran

 Not if that is true.

The Ivory Coast is in Africa.

  They could find a way to get rid of that part without scrapping the
whole religion. Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:

       "It must be noted too that the attack on the dogmatic
principles underlying ecclesiastical teaching is increased steadily in
violence. And yet this human world of ours would be inconceivable
without the practical existence of a religious belief. The great
masses of a nation are not composed of philosophers. For the masses of
the people especially, faith is absolutely the only basis of a moral
outlook on life."

 If there was a group that fought against Celtic he would have reasons
to like the group. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

To vague to answer.

 Marriage is supposed to be "for better or worse till death do us
part". It's almost always the wife that files for divorce but in your
case above maybe the state could slap this guy around a little bit.
We could say that in general the one that files for divorce is the one
that does not get the house.

See above.

No, the doctor spends more time in medical school.

  We could have women doctors.

http://vortxweb.net/gorgias/mens_issues/pay_gap.html

"The issue of unequal pay for equal work between men and women is
probably the issue that most women find easy to
rally behind that gender feminists have kept alive. While a
disparity stemming from discrimination may well have
existed up through the 1960's, in recent times this gap is
practically nonexistent. But the "(insert number here)
cents on the dollar" statistics are still frequently cited. Let's
see if this disparity can hold up under close (or
not so close) scrutiny.

If you don't want to bother reading on, here's a summary of this
material: When maternal leave, education, job
choice and experience are accounted for, there is no wage gap to be
found. When the often cited "75 cents on the
dollar" and similar numbers are calculated, they are typically a
ratio of the average wages of women divided by the
average wages of men. They do not focus on comparing wages in
specific work environments, and therefore the concept
of "equal pay for equal work" plays no part in creating these
numbers. None. None at all.

The fact of the matter is, it is next to impossible to compare
people of equal abilities and job roles, and so the
studies often cited rely heavily on data irrelevant to the question
of discrimination. Of course there are
male-dominated jobs (such as electrical engineering) that pay more
than female-dominated jobs (such as hairdresser
or secretary), but it is also true that it takes a lot more work
and education to be an engineer than to be an
office assistant. Women are now graduating from college in greater
numbers than men, but they're still not choosing
to go into fields that are abstractly challenging and pay the most.

There is also the fact that men simply work more hours than women
do, and most men don't take 'maternity leave',
giving them an earned advantage in getting promotions and raises.
Of course, a woman shouldn't be discriminated
against for the possibility of taking maternity leave, but the fact
is that many women choose to do so and are also
choosing to forfeit the financial gains they could have made had
they chosen not to have a child.

Sex roles have a lot to do with the pay gap, in more ways that you
might think. Despite all of the advances that
women have made in the workplace, society hasn't lessened the male
role to be a financial provider and breadwinner
for his family. Thus many men simply take jobs they like less (or
are more dangerous) because they pay more, due to
this social pressure. Women entered the workforce as an additional
choice they had (the other being to stay at
home), and in doing so they were more free to choose the less
demanding or dangerous jobs because they don't have
this traditional social pressure.

Also consider this: 24 of the 25 worst jobs rated according to the
Jobs Related Almanac are composed of over 95%
men. These are high-risk, hazardous jobs (often called the "death
professions"), which pay more than most
working-class jobs because they're so undesirable. But men will
work in them to be better providers for their
families.

If men didn't have this continual pressure to make money and
support their families, or if men didn't need money to
attract the attention of women, the average amount that men make
would certainly decrease. But instead we have a
social system that tells men to practically kill themselves to try
and make as much money as possible, and
feminists to complain as if men made this money on the basis of
discrimination. This is not what is really going
on. If anything, the fact that men make more than women on average
is because men basically don't have the choice
not to.

You want the stats? These articles speak for themselves, and if
they won't convince you, nothing will..."

[See web page]

You just said that when the man divorces it's to get a new woman. But
now when women leaves it's for "grounds".

That would be a big discouragement. Yes that sounds reasonable.

 I agree with you on this.

 Probably most Muslims deeply wish this were not in their holy book.
We should try to help them out of their jam without scrapping their
whole religion. Christians got rid of the flat earth thing without
scrapping their religion.

 Men should do other work.

Deals are not primarily people skills. The point of people skills is
nonaggression.

The USA is totally for multi-culture. That is it's main goal. But is
also gives Jews weapons and billions of dollars so these Jews can have
their own country and have the opposite of a multi-culture for
themselves. This only makes sense when you realize that the USA is
controlled by the Jews.

 Non of that compares to the Rothschilds.

Jews control the media and their disinformation is enormous.

 They weren't misinterpreted. The Jews and their minions are
deliberate liars.

<http://www.ety.com/tell/books/jgjewstats/03.htm>

[ . . . ] Furthermore, regardless of how you define a Jew, the
statistics...

So in 1948 they used "the last available data". The war had been over
for three years. How could they do that if they believed there was a
holo?

More on this:

"I've checked out Churchill's Second World War and the statement is
quite correct-not a single mention of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a
'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war.
Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes
of Churchill's Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle's
three-volume Memoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.  In this mass of
writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the
introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no
mention either of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of
'six million' Jewish victims of the war."
ï¿½	Richard Lynn, Professor Emeritus
University of Ulster, December 5, 2005

 Supplied by Jews.

Supplied by the... Jewish...probably the most authentic :  )

 Maybe if Himmler were the top leader a lot of Jews would have been
executed. They are mortal enemies of the White race. But there is this
from ihr.org:

"In a Saturday lecture, "Hitler and the Final Solution: Are We Any
Nearer to the Truth?," Irving cited copies of little known World War
II documents that were also distributed to the attendees. Particularly
noteworthy was a Dec. 1, 1941, order by Heinrich Himmler that, Irving
said, apparently was issued following a stern rebuke by Hitler because
of an unauthorized mass shooting of Jews the day before near Riga,
Latvia, including several hundred Jews who had just arrived by train
from Germany."

  That doesn't add up. Our side would not want to spam flood
alt.revisionism

So, the allies were bombing Germany to rubble and the deaths in the
camps were from typhoid.

 No it isn't. He just said he didn't know anything. He went along with
the allies assertion without having any reason to believe it other
than that is what they wanted to hear.

  He can't admit to what he just finishing saying he knew nothing
about.

 No way.

In both the two existing disinfectant buildings at Auschwitz-Birkenau
Concentration Camp in Poland, there is irrefutable visual and forensic
evidence that zyclon B cyanide had been used to kill lice which
carried deadly typhus. The blue markings inside and outside through
twenty six centimetres of brickwork are still there today sixty years
after the end of WWII.

In the alleged gas chamber at No. 2 crematorium there is NO visual or
forensic evidence of zyclon B cyanide ever being used.

 "Built as gas chambers". They look like ordinary rooms. Real gas
chambers have air tight doors and don't look like ordinary rooms at
all.

  Did you expect the Jew to say he was not debunked? Actually the Jews
were debunked.

  So they just happen to be invaded countries the Jews don't like.
That is pure rubbish. America is ruled by the Jews.

"I ask you to consider the following:
Imagine if the rulers of a Mideast nation such as Syria, and I am not
simply speaking about a gang of radicals in that nation, but the
actual government ministers of this Mideast nation, launched terrorist
attacks against American civilian installations.
Imagine if the Syrian Government sent terrorists into Egypt to
firebomb American theaters and libraries and treacherously plotted to
blame the attacks on Egypt so that the United States would go to war
against that nation.
If successful, the treacherous plan would harm America even more than
the terrorist attacks themselves, because even more American blood and
treasure would be spilled in a devastating war on an innocent nation!
Imagine that the premature explosion of the one of the Syrian agent's
bombs led to the capture of all the Syrian operatives and ultimately
caused a complete exposure of Syria's terrorism against America.
In fact, imagine that the failed plot became so exposed that the
Syrian Defense minister had to resign.
How do you think the United States would respond to these acts of
terrorism committed against Americans by the Syrian government?
Would not at the very least America make military strikes at Syrian
installations?
Remember, that without Iraq committing even a single warlike act
against the United States, America invaded Iraq and spent hundreds of
billions of dollars and suffered great numbers of dead and wounded.
Again, how would America respond to any Mideast nation that clearly
made terrorist attacks against American civilian installations?
After such dastardly terrorist attacks would the American people send
billions of dollars in aid including military weapons to Syria?
After such attacks, how would every Congressman be viewed that took
money from Lobby organizations that support the Syrian government?
Would they not be attacked in the press, would they not be properly
accused of disloyalty to the United States, perhaps even treason?
Imagine that due to the ubiquitous pro-Syrian political and media
power in America that amazingly no actions were taken against Syria
and that military and other aid to Syria continued.
And finally, imagine that years after the attacks, the President of
Syria in an open, public ceremony gives awards to the Syrian
terrorists who bombed American installations and calls them "heroes."
Do you think a free press would keep such an obscene ceremony from the
knowledge of the American public? Or do you think that the Syrian
Government's praising of terrorists who attacked America would unleash
a huge scandal and uproar.
Well, everything I just described to you actually has happened, and I
mean in every detail.
Except it wasn't the Syrian government that launched terrorist attacks
on America, it was Israel.
In the Lavon Affair, the Israeli government sent terrorists to bomb
American installations in Egypt and blame the Egyptians for it. One of
their bombs exploded prematurely which led to the capture of one the
agents and eventually the rounding up of all of them. They confessed
and the Israeli Defense minister Pinhas Lavon was forced to resign
because of the failure and exposure of this Israeli treachery.
This is no fantasy; this is absolute historical fact which you can
verify from numerous major historical sources, including leading
Jewish sources.
Only thing is, you probably haven't even heard of it.
Why not?
And why would America continue to give military weapons and equipment
to a nation that launched terrorist attacks against us?
What does that tell you about Israeli influence over the American
government and the press?"
David Duke
www.davidduke.com

 What business is it of the USA to make sure "anti-semitism" is
fought. Why not "anti-frenchism" or anything else. The USA is ruled by
the Jews.

Bush is "remarkable," Rabbi Fund tells The Jewish Week, "the ultimate
Shabbos Goy."'3
There you have it: the "ultimate Shabbos Goy" has presided over a
holocaust of some 100,000 Iraqis, plus over 1,000 of his own troops.

For a very long time whatever happened in the Middle East got as much
news coverage in the USA as if it happened in Ohio. There is an
obvious reason why the USA is so obsessed with the Middle East. It is
because the USA is ruled by Jews.

 I may not read them every time I post them, but of course I read
them.

Who's to Blame for the Affirmative Action Fiasco?
By Hugh Murray

Searching for employment in the late 19th century, many Irish
immigrants in America encountered the sign, "NINA" (No Irish Need
Apply). Today, their descendants face much the same discrimination. Of
course, now, it is not limited to the Irish - for in America men are
routinely denied jobs, promotions, contracts and scholarships because
they are of Irish, Italian, English, German or general European
heritage. Worse, not only is this discrimination government sponsored,
it is performed in the name of "Equal Opportunity." How did this come
about? Why do the media prefer to ignore it? Who fostered this
discrimination against white men?

In high school a white boy may be denied entrance into special
programs because he is not a preferred minority; or, in some cases, he
may be denied because he is not a girl. There are scholarships
available, but many cannot be awarded to a white male (for example,
Bill Gates of Microsoft was recently lauded by the media for
establishing a billion-dollar scholarship program - one in which
recipients are restricted to blacks only.) When the teen applies to
university, the administration will admit "basically qualified"
minorities, but reject better-qualified whites. When applying for
jobs, the same discrimination occurs. If the teen finds employment,
special, on-the-job training for promotion may be denied him as it is
reserved for minorities, even if they are lesser qualified and have
been on the job a shorter period of time. Once hired, he may be
required to attend "diversity training" sessions, in which he is
supposed to confess his alleged guilt of racism and sexism.

How did this systematic discrimination arise?

What did it mean to forbid discrimination? From the early days of the
20th century through 1964, most liberals were clear as to what this
meant-show no bias against or preference for a person because of his
race, sex, religion etc. This was the dominant view. But in the debate
over the civil rights bill in 1964 some opponents declared that if
passed, it would lead to, among other things: racial quotas and racial
balance in the workplace, preferences for blacks over whites in
employment, promotion, bank loans etc.

But, in Congress, the debate went otherwise. No senator who favored
the civil rights bill spoke up for quotas, "positive integration,"
racial balance or preferences for minorities above whites. Quite the
contrary.

How then did a law which promised to end discrimination by outlawing
discrimination against any individual, a law that promised preferences
for no group, which agreed to retain testing to reject unqualified
applicants-how was this law subverted into its opposite? Here the role
of Alfred Blumrosen is crucial. Blumrosen was among the zealots
working for the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission who did not
want the agency to function as created.

Alfred Blumrosen was instrumental in this and other shifts. He was a
professor at Rutgers University who became the EEOC's liaison chief
for federal, state and local agencies, and he admitted that his
"creative" reading of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was "contrary to
the plain meaning." But why worry? By 1965 when the Bank of America
instituted quota hiring under a euphemism, "the standard refrain of
the EEO bureaucracies, [was that] affirmative action [AA] had nothing
to do with racial quotas. That was illegal." Unfortunately, that
deceptive refrain is still heard today.

The goal of Sonia Pressman, another ideologue in the EEOC, was "to
document large disparities in employment patterns, [so] that
discriminatory intent might legally be inferred." ...the EEOC sought
to impose quotas while not calling them such because quotas were
clearly illegal. The agency sought to break the law.

Blumrosen and Pressman pushed the EEOC to defy the Civil Rights Act of
1964 by imposing quotas, demanding racial balance in the workplace and
giving preferences to blacks over whites. Essential to the Blumrosen-
Pressman campaign was the collection of statistics to show "disparate
impact," how minorities were underutilized, employed in a smaller
proportion in various occupations to their numbers in the general
population.

Blumrosen was set upon "selectively enforcing" the civil rights act by
using disparate impact theory and proportional representation only
when it affected others. (More accurately, Blumrosen was "selectively
malenforcing" the civil rights law, imposing quotas for
underrepresented blacks, using quotas to curb whites; for women,
against men; but never for gentiles and against Jews.)

Of course, had the EEOC sought to restrict Jews as it has white men,
the storm of protest would have cast "disparate impact" theory into
the dustbin of history. Thus, the role of Blumrosen and his allies in
the media, academia etc., was to create a false target - the
"overrepresented," "privileged" and "oppressive" white male. According
to the EEOC, the statistics proved just that. However, the statistics
proved otherwise. The partial statistics used by Blumrosen were simply
the effort to deflect criticism to another group instead of the one
most overrepresented, privileged and oppressive - his own.

By not asking the religious question on the EEOC questionnaires, the
EEOC created a scapegoat of the white male. Once smeared as
"privileged" and "oppressive," the non-privileged, working-class and
poor whites began to pay the price for the "moral" system of
affirmative action by being legally discriminated against and denied
equal opportunity.

The proportional test, the liberals' test of all tests, when applied
to the religious clause of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, shows Jews to
be the most privileged and oppressive of people in America. The fav-
orite test of liberals reveals white men to be less privileged than
the Jews. Why does not The New York Times, the EEOC, NBC, CBS or ABC
report that statistic? The media remain silent on the issue of Jewish
privilege while simultaneously exposing every time white men are
somewhat overrepresented. Why the silence regarding Jews? A glance at
the ownership of the media just might have something to do with this
disparity in exposing "privilege." And if any individual in the media
dared to expose some Jewish privilege, there would be a thunderous
assault upon that individual's "bigotry." However, daily, reporters
write of white male privilege, but almost no one denounces this anti-
white bigotry.

Once smeared as privileged, the non-privileged middle-class, working-
class, and poor whites pay for the "moral" system of AA by being
legally discriminated against and denied equal opportunity. But then
the history of America since the 1960s is often the record of wealthy
liberals using the law to curb and oppress blue-collar whites, because
the blue-collar folk are deemed privileged, prejudiced and provincial.
Therefore, such blue-collar whites deserve to be passed over in
scholarships, jobs and promotions; the blue-collar crowd should be
shunted aside, and instead the "pets" of the elite should be elevated:
the children of illegal immigrants, of wealthy minorities and the
daughters of rich liberals. And this is done in the name of morality,
fairness, and justice.

In summary, the great hoax concocted by Blumrosen and his
collaborators in the media, academy, and government is "white male
privilege." Most white men are not privileged. Those who are, often
support AA because it is no loss to them - their children will not
require a scholarship, an entry-level job, a position as policeman or
fireman, or a promotion. It is the poor and middle-class whites who,
denied equal opportunity, must pay with thinning wallets and shrunken
dreams for the "morality of diversity" imposed by the wealthy, liberal
elite.

Even if every CEO in America were a white male, that would be no
reason to discriminate against a poor, white teenage boy seeking a
scholarship and give it to a lesser qualified girl or minority. "White
male privilege" is a social construct created by liberals. They have
used their power in government, media, and academia to deny equal
opportunity to white men, to undermine and stigmatize America's
working class, and to immobilize with guilt the white middle class.
America does not suffer from white male privilege and oppression; it
staggers beneath Jewish privilege and oppression.

Excerpted from article found at:
http://www.barnesreview.org/Nov__Dec_2001/Who_s_to_Blame_for_the_Affirma/wh
o_s_to_blame_for_the_affirma.html

   After he found out where the samples were from he knew it was time
for some jew boot licking.

Men should do other work.

"Is there any part of White, Western culture that hasn't been
feminized yet?... there are even women firefighters these days. Who do
they think they are - men?
It seems like almost everything in the West has been feminized. And
that feature will get worse quickly.
Soon, the once-godlike male ... will be reduced to driving the kids to
school and uttering a few obligatory "whatever you say, dears" to the
new master of the household, a different type of human: one with tits.
Or, the hapless male will have to follow the nonsensical,
emotion-based mandates of some 26-year-old office-babe down at company
headquarters - or find himself fired for "sexism."
Yep, it's coming. All facets of Western society will soon contain 50%
little-humans-wearing-lipstick - many of whom will be in supervisory
positions, whether they are qualified or not, thanks to something
called affirmative action.
The feminization of everything will bring lots of tears and whining
and soap-opera-like sagas with it. It will ensure more social
"equality" within the Western societies, since women are more likely
to embrace multiculturalism, homosexuality and other neat-o things.
The gal who manages a sports team will be likely to make up some silly
rule that 34.5% of the team must hail from darkest Africa or down
Meh-hee-co way.  Chicks are like that. They wanna play nicey-nice all
the time - except when it's that-time-of-the-month and Miss Snotty
shows up.
Of course, the feminization of the West is no accident. It's all part
of the Jewish/liberal strategy to refashion the West into something
more...pliable. More "modern" (Read: more Jewish, since women wear the
pants in most Jewish households).
Just think: your husky, soccer-playing brother may soon be taking
orders in a locker room from a cute little gal who doesn't know beans
about the game. And if he complains about it, he'll have to report to
some fancy office for "gender and diversity sensitivity training"-an
office probably run by a chick from New York City named Goldberg.
Yes, the feminization of everything: it's progress, and it'll make
your Western country (cough) much better!"
Michelle Malkin.

 Men should do other work. We should have daycares but there should be
no feminists or liberals running them.

See above

What group are we not supposed to criticize? Does anyone fear being
called "anti-french" or "anti-catholic".

  Macho females are more than likely homo. It's true that many of
their homos are not macho though.

 Men should do the jobs that require carrying guns.

  I am for discrimination. But there are always plenty more men more
qualified than women to be police.

A great nation would discriminate between men and women because they
are different.

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