text:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:52:39 +0100, theo1610
<tvbeuningen16@16=1hotmeel.com> wrote:

Voor jou mischien.


author: John Briggs

subject: Re: Kalamazoo

text:
On 19/05/2010 06:44, Weland wrote:

The York Early Music Festival is usually the week after Leeds.


author: William Black

subject: Re: Kalamazoo

text:
On 19/05/10 21:09, John Briggs wrote:

I find that one far too 'academic' for my taste.

The Beverly EMF is good though...


author: erilar

subject: Re: Kalamazoo

text:
In article <LzXIn.83523$[email]2>,
 John Briggs <[email]> wrote:

I didn't want to know that. I refuse to travel that time of year, but
knowing things like this is painful anyway.


subject: Re: Kalamazoo

text:
On 19/05/2010 21:35, William Black wrote:

I don't think there is much difference - they are both run by the same
people!


subject: Re: Kalamazoo

text:
On 19/05/10 22:07, John Briggs wrote:

I know,  but Beverly seems more informal.

Perhaps it's the settings...


author: Emily J. Stevens

subject: Wife-Beating in Europe:  A Lesson From Motherland

text:
======forwarded==============

From: [email] (Bakomatsukutsa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.zimbabwe
Date: 08 Oct 2000 06:25:40 GMT
References: <[email]>
.
.
There is no excuse for domestic violence among Africans particularly
the Shona people in Zimbabwe.  I chose the Shona because I am part of
that culture and therefore wish to share some personal experiences.
We have men among the Shona who beat their wives.  The wife beaters
are an insignificant number within our population.  There are women
too, that you can count on your fingers,  who beat their spouses.  I
recall an African woman who beat her husband at least twice a week.
The husband eventually committed suicide and  left no note but his
neighbors claimed that he could not bear the humiliation of being beat
by his wife.  Spousal abuse is not justified among the Shona.  The
misunderstanding by outsiders stems from our marriage system.  Our
traditional marriage involves lobola by a man to the family of his
fiancÃ©.  The practice is not payment but an appreciation of a man
joining another family with his family.  Traditionally lobola
consisted of cattle and goats.  Nowadays, particularly in urban areas
cattle has been replaced with cash.  The marriage makes the groomâs
family relatives of the spouseâs family.  This explains why we  have
large extended families.  In the country-side where we live, I have
countless relatives from aunt marriages, uncle marriages and cousin
marriages.

Among the Shona there is a system of conflict resolution when there is
domestic violence.  A battered wife reports the case to Aunties of the
spouses, who then intervene.  The aunties identify causes of the
problem and conduct some counseling.  During a counseling session
children are kept away while the adults are meeting.. There is major
cornern that children should not know about the problem lest it scars
them.  The counseling is confidential, subtle and avoids exposing
anyone to shame.

 If the counseling does not change behavior the situation is reported
to the elders.  A meeting is called among the family elders who then
establish causes of the problem.  For instance, if a man is beating
his wife because she is cheating, the person cheating with the wife is
punished by paying damages/"kuripa."  The damages could be as much as
four herd of cattle.  In cases when the beating stem from deviant
behavior of the husband, the father or relatives of an abused woman
can come and take her back home.  Again there is no excuse for
domestic violence and it is not tolerated

The African women are seen as mute victims of inherent barbaric
attacks.  The African women is not an object of sex but the mother of
the family.  Most women are not outspoken in public but they do make
the  decisions in their household.

The African woman is honored and cherished by the African man who do
everything in their capabilities for her happiness.  Women are
considered the center of the family and affairs revolve around her.
Our women are major contributors to the well being of the family.  The
woman runs household and nurture the children.  There is a saying,
"Imba Mukadzi,"  (A household is kept intact by a woman.)  The mother
is always there to comfort our children whenever.there are in pain.
The African woman
==end forward===================


author: Colonel Edmund J. Burke

subject: Re: Merry XMas

text:
"Leinad" <[email]> wrote in message
news:2831983.rLkHMHArtk@Leinad...

"New Year" is capitalized, you turd brain.


author: Threads Of Gold In Funky Diarrhea

subject: Re: Merry XMas

text:
Date: Sat, Dec 25, 2010, 7:11am From: [email]
(Colonel Edmund J. Burke)
"Leinad" <[email]> wrote in message
news:2831983.rLkHMHArtk@Leinad...

I would hate to be trampled down by a panicked crowd, and feel my face
getting ground into a sharp metal grating. Wouldn't you, Mr. Funny
Bunny? What about the electrocution hazard as well, when my flesh gets
cooked onto the steaming grate? Oh, is it yucky poo-poo, Princess?

I'm talking to both of you. Why don't you get a room and talk, and yell
and scream, and sing a
profane song. Kiss each other like nervous teenagers. Work out this
"capitalization" thing over a bedsheet raked with your jets of semen.

No more masks.


author: Colonel Eric Jackoff Burke Klink

subject: Re: Merry XMas

text:
"Colonel Klink Jackoff. Burke"  spewed forth his shit in message
news:[email]...

"Leinad" <[email]> wrote in message
news:2831983.rLkHMHArtk@Leinad...

"New Year" is capitalized, you turd brain.

Only if he wants to shit for brains.  Go pull Jenny's chain.  Impress her
with your grammar. We fucking don't care.


subject: Re: Merry XMas

text:
"Threads Of Gold In Funky Diarrhea" <[email]> wrote in
message news:[email]...

Date: Sat, Dec 25, 2010, 7:11am From: [email]
(Colonel Edmund J. Burke)
"Leinad" <[email]> wrote in message
news:2831983.rLkHMHArtk@Leinad...

I would hate to be trampled down by a panicked crowd, and feel my face
getting ground into a sharp metal grating. Wouldn't you, Mr. Funny
Bunny? What about the electrocution hazard as well, when my flesh gets
cooked onto the steaming grate? Oh, is it yucky poo-poo, Princess?

I'm talking to both of you. Why don't you get a room and talk, and yell
and scream, and sing a
profane song. Kiss each other like nervous teenagers. Work out this
"capitalization" thing over a bedsheet raked with your jets of semen.

No more masks.

You're giving me wood.


subject: Re: Merry XMas

text:
"Colonel Eric Jackoff Burke Klink" <[email]> wrote in message
news:DhzRo.6063$[email]...

That's "we don't fucking care," penis envy.


subject: Re: I've founded a new civil rights organization

text:
fat smelly lazy glutton:

!

!!
                       jackie 'anakin' tokeman

i have always thought the actions of men the best interpreters of thier
thoughts.
- john locke


author: daniloff

subject: Czy Ameryka to obciach?

text:
http://oktawiusz.salon24.pl/107250,index.html

"...Ok, nikt z nas nie uwazal sie za swietego, ale cala ta Ameryka po 3-4
miesiacach zaczynala przypominac ZOO. Moze fajnie jest je zwiedzic, ale
mieszkac w nim? Do tego wszystkiego dochodzila w koncu zwykla proza zycia, a
ogolne wrazenie o naszej krainie szczesliwosci z dziecinstwa mozna bylo
zamknac w slowie - obciach..."


author: [redacted]

subject: Re: Czy Ameryka to obciach?

text:
On Dec 23, 4:28 am, "daniloff" <[email]> wrote:

Panie Daniloff, ja moge Ameryka krytykowac (co robie) ale zycia tutaj
nie zaluje.
Przynajmniej mi sie tu nie nudzi.

Czasami slucham Radio Mayak i nowinek z Rosji. Sadze, ze tam ludzie
tez sie nie nudza -- ale za to za jaka cene?
Doceniam osiagniecia Rosji/Rosjan w wielu dziedzinach: Igor Sikorsy
(helikoptery), Timoshenko (wytrzymalosc materialow, to prawie Biblia
wytrzymalosciowcow amerykanskich), osiagniecia w przemysle
lotniczym .. przestalem lekcewazyc kiedy zaczalem czytac dane
porownawcze,
ale miejsca bym nie zamienil.

Zycze pomyslnosci w Nowym Roku

S' novym Godom,
s.b.


author: Andrzej Adam Filip

subject: Re: Czy Ameryka to obciach? [ TAK (dla *niektórych*) ]

text:
"daniloff" <[email]> pisze:

Dotychczasowe dominujące uwielbienie USA wyglądające (niemal) jak kult
było nienormalne. A to że co poniektórym USA "się bardzo niespecjalnie
podoba" i nie mają zahamowań żeby to powiedzieć jest całkowicie normalne
według standardów demokracji i wolności słowa. To dotychczasowe zahamowania
były nienormalne :-)

A co tobie się niepodoba "w kraju Putina"? ;-)
To tak apropo dowcipu "Senator USA u Stalina:
Senator: U nas jest tak wolność że każdy może krytykować prezydenta USA.
Stalin (po krótkim zastanowieniu): U nas też każdy może krytykować
                                   prezydenta USA.

A co USA się murzynów nalinczowało (do lat 1930) to nikt im tego
nie odbierze! ;-)


subject: Re: Czy Ameryka to obciach?

text:
<[email]> сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее:
news:[email]...
On Dec 23, 4:28 am, "daniloff" <[email]> wrote:

Panie Daniloff, ja moge Ameryka krytykowac (co robie) ale zycia tutaj
nie zaluje.
Przynajmniej mi sie tu nie nudzi.

Czasami slucham Radio Mayak i nowinek z Rosji. Sadze, ze tam ludzie
tez sie nie nudza -- ale za to za jaka cene?
Doceniam osiagniecia Rosji/Rosjan w wielu dziedzinach: Igor Sikorsy
(helikoptery), Timoshenko (wytrzymalosc materialow, to prawie Biblia
wytrzymalosciowcow amerykanskich), osiagniecia w przemysle
lotniczym .. przestalem lekcewazyc kiedy zaczalem czytac dane
porownawcze,
ale miejsca bym nie zamienil.

Zycze pomyslnosci w Nowym Roku

S' novym Godom,
************************************************************************
Tego ze zycze i Panu.
Radosnych swiat Bozego Narodzenia!


subject: Collecting good news from Iraq

text:
There are mountains of good news from Iraq that never make the main
stream media.  You will never find this information in The Guardian, Le
Monde, Stern, or the NY Times.  This blog has made an effort to cover
what the MSM has missed.  Here is their latest installment.

http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2005/03/good-news-from-iraq-part-24.html


author: Paolo Pizzi

subject: Re: Collecting good news from Iraq

text:
Off-topic.

Please send your complaints to [email]
and [email]

Don't forget to include the message headers.

<[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


author: * US *

subject: Re: Islamophobia & Other Brain Defects Pertinent to Bushkultism           Re: Bush Treason Admired by America-Hater   ...   Re: Panta Rhei says Bush is lying treasonous filth scum for siding with the Sheiks   ...   Re: Closet Gay Bushkultie Panta Rhei Seeks Restroom Date with Sheik   ...   Re: Bushkultie Desire to Trash America Undisputed   ...   Re: Bushworship is Idiocy at best, and America-hating support of fascist terrorism, otherwise, the failure of the unintelligent, cowardly sociopath type

text:
The bushkultie can't tell that a Baptist isn't a Muslim.

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?article_class=3&no=328903&rel_no=1

In stark contrast to the failures of the bushkultie,
here are accounts of courageous, decent people:

http://www.tolerance.org/teach/resources/childrens_march.jsp

If he had friends or family who would
remain in proximity to him, they could
have taught him adult ways.

It's not as if there'd be anyone, much less
anyone decent, around the bushkultie to
protect him from himself.

Cut off from the real world, the cult victim is easily
frightened into unthinking subservience.

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:02:12 +0200, Pantload Reeks <[email]> wrote:

You're not permitted to read, in your cult.

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:50:36 +0200, Panty Waste <[email]> wrote:

Of course you are: if you had any intelligence
you'd not be a pawn for those who abuse you.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:42:36 +0200, Panty Waste <[email]> wrote:

You're not as smart as Alex the parrot was.

He knew more words.

The bushkultie was fooled by many false claims.

He believes that the babies of Baghdad were
after him with nukes, when, in reality, they
were no threat and had no nukes.

The bushkultie has usefully confirmed his inability
to learn via reading.  This will help explain to the
generations of the future why he was too stupid
to avoid supporting those who ruined it for them.

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:14:46 +0200, Panty Waste <[email]> wrote:

You're too cowardly to become informed.

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:41:14 +0200, Panty Waste <[email]> wrote:

You're subliterate: it's how you got fooled into
dupehood so easily by even the most clumsy
of those who abuse you.

Notice that the bushkultie is too unintelligent to
offer any valid argument whatsoever.  His words
are, as is his failed ideology, without merit.

Notice that the bushkultie is forced to hide, and
he displays his ignorance of Usenet archives.

Nobody ever accuses a bushkultie of having much
in the way of an IQ, certainly.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:38:51 +0200, Panta Rhei <[email]> wrote:

You seem to be somewhere between
bb-gun and spitwad, there.

Hint: you see a Muslim where there is
none, so you're hallucinating at best.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:29:56 +0200, Panty Waste <[email]> wrote:

You want to trash the USA because you hate Americans.

You enjoy it when American bridges fall down, too.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:28:49 +0200, Panta Rhei <[email]> wrote:

You keep advertising that about yourself,
as if anyone would doubt it of a bushkultie.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:20:29 +0200, Panting Rheichtard <[email]> wrote:

It's all you have, bushkultie.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:25:36 -0700, weakling dimwit - OWNED - by the Fascists wrote:

The world despises you for your support of terrorism.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:01:55 +0200, Panting Rheichtard <[email]> wrote:

There are thousands of Muslims in the United States Military.

Why do you hate so very many Americans?

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:22:54 -0700, bushkult - OWNED - by The Fascists <The bushkult
terrorists rape children> wrote:

Your fear of what you don't understand is
making you unable to control yourself.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:38:55 +0200, Panting Rheichtard <[email]> wrote:

You must be.  It's your best excuse, too.

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:09:43 +0200, Panta Rhei <[email]> wrote:

Your ignorance and weakness make you
perfect pawn material for fascists.

You're so stupid, in fact, that you seek
to blame your victims.

Notice how people are forced to demonize Muslims
today as they were forced to demonize Jews back in
the days of the Third Reich.

Bush is, after all, the "Heir to the Holocaust".


author: The Black Monk

subject: France points the way to Europe's future

text:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/02/france.riots/index.html

The only guy who shows some decency is Sarkozy.  But then he's not a
Western Euro degenerate - he's Hungarian.

BM


author: MTRP

subject: Re: France points the way to Europe's future

text:
The Black Monk wrote:

Whoever ... like most Euro-Ossies Sarko's not very smart. After all
Paris' no Budapest. My favorite Dom de Ville's getting stronger .... I
bet he'll be the next Prez of France.


subject: Dom is cool. Hugo is cool 2. GW suxx.

text:
Dom is cool. Hugo is cool 2. GW suxx. Click pic N 3 to grasp the whole
politmath:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4409262.stm
Alas, Jacq always had PR problems ... he ill-started his first
presidency (re: Mururoa) cuz he could not realize that the earthlings
are already badly sick and tired of US-SU nuclear race, and he poisoned
his second term by insulting stupid New Euros, and so forth, although
(at least in these both cases) he was right in principle. But Dom is
smart and he knows what people want to hear (see the pic) ... he proved
it in his brilliant UN speeches ... besides he seems to be the only
"white" leader around who can match Prez Vlad intellectually.

Former King of Pangea wrote:


subject: Re: Dom is cool. Hugo is cool 2. GW suxx.

text:
P.S. Just take a look at that moronic face! :-D :-D :-D
http://indiadaily.com/editorial/5345.asp

MTRP wrote:


author: waggg

text:
On 2 Nov 2005 06:10:54 -0800, "The Black Monk" <[email]>
wrote:

I didn't people could be so idiot. We learn every day.
And Di Caprio is german or Italian ?


text:
Brooksy suxx 2. Your French dreams R just 2 weird 2 comment on ...

Former King of Pangea wrote:


author: Former King of Pangea

text:
There's a problem in the first place because Frenchies are flaming racists.
This problem isn't going to go away, nor is France's unemployment.

The only winners here are France's Jews. All the jew-haters are off hating
muslims for the moment.

Dumbinique Duhhh Villepin will not fix anything. He won't fix the economy,
he won't fix unemployment and he won't fix racism in France.

You gotta remember, France is a nation of cowards.

"MTRPT" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
Dom is cool. Hugo is cool 2. GW suxx. Click pic N 3 to grasp the whole
politmath:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4409262.stm
Alas, Jacq always had PR problems ... he ill-started his first
presidency (re: Mururoa) cuz he could not realize that the earthlings
are already badly sick and tired of US-SU nuclear race, and he poisoned
his second term by insulting stupid New Euros, and so forth, although
(at least in these both cases) he was right in principle. But Dom is
smart and he knows what people want to hear (see the pic) ... he proved
it in his brilliant UN speeches ... besides he seems to be the only
"white" leader around who can match Prez Vlad intellectually.

Former King of Pangea wrote:


text:
Dom should be careful what he wishes for...he might get it.

Once Dumbinique is Prez, Frenchies will realize he's just as useless as
everybody else. Look at Chirac...totally impotent and weak in the face of
the riots. He's just sitting back hoping they'll go away eventually.

Sarkozy wanted to take action but the rest of the French gov doesn't have
the stomach.

Maybe the racist slavs are better off? They beat the crap out of every black
ass that steps across the border so Russia and the former east block are
basically one race...not the same economically though.

"MTRPT" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


author: Kvebekski

text:
"waggg" <[email]> wrote in message news:[email]...

BM is a very surprising individual sometimes.


author: nemesis

subject: Re: CHUKHOTKA TO BE ANNEXED BY UNITED STATES!

text:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:40:50 GMT, Amigocabal <[email]> wrote:

so you are AMERICAN ???... wow ... you are my idol ... now ... go back to
hole ...


author: Amigocabal

text:
In article <[email]>,
  [email] wrote:
wrote:
color,
to
I AM GLAD YOU LIKE AMERICANS, NOW GO BACK TO THE BOTTLE!


text:
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:29:46 GMT, Amigocabal <[email]> wrote:

offcourse i do like then ... dead and cold ...


text:
In article <[email]>,
  [email] wrote:
wrote:

YOU LIKE AMERICANS BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM YOU WOULD STARVE TO DEATH!

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.


text:
In article <[email]>,
  [email] wrote:
wrote:

Of course you like everybody dead and cold, just the waY YOU ARE!

 "You take the lies out of them, and they'll shrink to the size of your
hat,  you take the malice
out of them, and they will disappear." Mark Twain  (even Mark Twain knew
about the Serbs)

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.


text:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:44:06 GMT, Amigocabal <[email]> wrote:

:))) ... i do not like everybody dead and cold ... but if you bomb my country
this great country of Serbia then you can not be my friend ... just my enemie
and i like to see every_body of my enemie dead and cold ...


text:
In article <[email]>,
  [email] wrote:
wrote:
country
enemie

STICK YOUR GREAT COUNTRY UP YOUR ARSE, THOSE THAT WISH SOMEONE DEAD, END
UP HANGING AT THE END OF THE ROPE THEMSELVES!

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.


text:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:36:41 GMT, Amigocabal <[email]> wrote:

but ... i well stick UP my hairy ass evry one of the NATO lands ... :)
in Serbia .. there are the special place for you ... :))) ...
6 ft deep, 2ft wide ... :)))...


text:
In article <[email]>,
  [email] wrote:
wrote:
END

Everyone will end up there, you included! As far as the rest of the
world is concerned I am sure they will not miss likes of you, and the
rest of the chetnik child slaughterers!

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.


author: peter

subject: Another Victim of Islam????? Dutch front runner Fortuyn dead!!!!

text:
Dutch Politician Fortuyn Is Killed
Dutch Politician Pim Fortuyn Is Shot Dead by an Unidentified Gunman,
Dutch Television Reports

The Associated Press

Police had confirmed Fortuyn was shot in the head and gravely wounded.
The television said he was shot six times in the head, neck and chest.
The attack came nine days before national elections.

Fortuyn was leaving a radio interview in Hilversum, about 10 miles
southeast of Amsterdam, when he was attacked.

The former academic and columnist leads an openly gay lifestyle,
supports personal liberties, and has laid claim to leadership of the
Netherlands' perennially vacant political right.

Fortuyn has dictated debate during the campaign with verbal attacks on
the country's growing Muslim population and and strident criticism of
the national government.

Fortuyn's platform seemed out of place in the Netherlands, which has a
reputation for liberalism. It was the first country to legalize gay
marriages, regulate prostitution, approve and control euthanasia, and
tolerate the over-the-counter sale of marijuana in hundreds of "coffee
shops."

Though tolerant of such subcultures, Fortuyn's popularity has exposed
a deep vein of suspicion of immigrants in Europe's most densely
populated country, about 2 million of whose 16 million people are not
native Dutch. About 800,000 are Muslims
---------------
I guess europe looks more and more like the middle east these
days.....


author: Magnus Link

subject: Re: Another Victim of Islam????? Dutch front runner Fortuyn dead!!!!

text:
[email] (peter) wrote in message news:<[email]>...

Isn't your posting rather much out of place in soc.culture.nordic and
soc.culture.british aswell?


author: WolfWolf

text:
Justice Minister Benk Korthals said that the killer is a white Dutch, 30-35
years old. He is arrested.

WolfWolf
The European

"peter" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


author: H.C. Andersen

text:
On 6 May 2002 13:14:29 -0700, [email] (peter)
wrote:

If Al-Qaeda bombs a European country, the USA will get more support
from Europe.


author: abdul hai

text:
You fool he is a victim of a dutch killer

[email] (peter) wrote in message news:<[email]>...


author: Harmony

text:
Magnus Link wrote:

**Wherever Muslims are increasing this subject is not out of place!


author: Jacob T.

subject: link please?

text:
link please?

"WolfWolf" <[email]> wrote in message
news:ab6s06$fr2$[email]...
30-35


subject: European Violence

text:
On Mon, 6 May 2002 23:13:32 +0200, "WolfWolf" <[email]>
wrote:

WOW.......so much violence in Europe...........German student shoots
up school............Dutch politician murdered.......

How did they get the guns?  Aren't they illegal in Europe?


author: Devon Hill

text:
"H.C. Andersen" <Does it [email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Then sadly I have too say, let us hope the Muslims are stupid enough(yeah
like we don't already know that) to bomb a landmark in Europe! If that wakes
up the Europeans from their wussiness in dealing with Muslims, it will be a
small price to pay!

People, we all have to realize, Jews, Christians, Atheists, Hindus,
Buddhist, Secular and Moderate Muslims, that we are all in grave trouble
with the spector of Islamic immigration and their breeding like Rats!

What muslims could not do at Tours, Vienna or Lepanto, they hope to do
subtly and we must awake our Liberal freinds to this reality!

If the Muslims ever take over in Europe, say goodbye to Freedom of Speech,
Freedom of Religion, Freedom of thought and all other freedoms just as
Muhammed prescribed!

We must start acting now!!

Devon Hill


author: Jonhillr

text:
I would worry more about socialist fanaticism in europe.

jonhill


subject: Re: link please?

text:
Radio news.
How can I get a link from there???

"Jacob T." <[email]> wrote in message
news:k7DB8.9236$[email]...


author: [redacted]

subject: Re: European Violence

text:
H.C. Andersen <Does it [email]> writes:

        No. You just need to get a permit to buy one. For
        example, there are 2.1 million legal guns in Finland,
        a country of 5.1 million people.


author: Anton Vaaranmaa

subject: Re: European Violence

text:
"H.C. Andersen" wrote:

Mostly. The stricter the rules get the better. The majority of both the
peoples and the politicians want gun control. How about the USA? When
will some sort of gun control be introduced?


author: Kevin

text:
"Devon Hill" <[email]> wrote in message news:<X8HB8.34438$[email]>...

You're already acting ridiculous.


author: laurence scot

text:
"Devon Hill" <[email]> wrote in message news:<X8HB8.34438$[email]>...

  Then why not ask the Americans to blow something up in
Europe...maybe just a few old buildings that were going to torn down
anyway...etc. Bush would love that and so would Bin Laden. Those two
were good buddies not so long ago...maybe they could plan something
together. Think of it as an employment creation project.

W. Scott
Canada


subject: Re: link please?

text:
I haven't found any links either yet.

The link at the BBC disappeared so perhaps the story is in error.

"WolfWolf" <[email]> wrote in message
news:ab6v3d$if0$[email]...
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author: Electric Avenue

subject: Re: European Violence

text:
"Tomi T. Salo" pointed out:

    A fact that wasn't lost on the Russians, I'm sure.

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subject: Re: European Violence

text:
On Tue, 07 May 2002 15:09:15 +0300, Anton Vaaranmaa
<[email]> wrote:

Hi.....Well the nuts and the wackos will always get guns, whether
they're legal or illegal....The problem is there are too many guns....

Each state has their own laws, so it's illegal to get a gun in New
Jersey, you can always go to Virginia or somewhere else.....


text:
[email] (Kevin) wrote:

What makes you think he is capable of anything else?


author: Sky

subject: Re: link please?

text:
"Jacob T." <[email]> wrote in message
news:2mDB8.9255$[email]...

snip

Excerpt from BBC article

"Police said they had arrested a white Dutch man in relation to the
killing, but no motive has yet been established."


subject: Re: European Violence

text:
Electric Avenue wrote:

The collapse of the USSR has brought more dangers: "Do you want vodka,
woman or AK-47?" - some russian guy might ask you.


subject: Re: European Violence

text:
"H.C. Andersen" wrote:

Yes. Gun control is the way to reduce them. But of course use of legal
arms should have better control too (besides every illegal weapon was
originally a leagal weapon). For example under no circumstances should
it be made possible to bring guns from a legal shooting club out of
their premises. Guns used for hunting are more problematic - or to tell
the truth it is almost impossible to have sufficient control of them.

In my opinion *any* person who is allowed to use a weapon should go
through thorough psychological tests prior to be allowed to even touch a
weapon and their condition should be monitored on a regular basis. Of
course they should have a license and detailed data of them should be
stored by the authorities and it should be required by the threat of
severe penalty that they submit any updated information of changes in
the status of their lives (if they move someplace eg).

The guns themselves too should be trackable more easily: there should be
a GPS (or similiar technology) chip that reports the position of the gun
to a sattelite so we eg know where a stolen machine gun is. Possibly
there could be an embedded computer with an embedded operating system
which is capable of TCP/IP-networking and encryption. That way the
authorities could remotely connect to the missing gun and execute a
piece of software that would mechanically disable the gun.

Too bad the baddies are quick to find workarounds to such things so I
guess I'm only dreaming ;)

Then the laws in those states shoulb be brought on par with the states
with control. But that's up to the voting public to make it happen,
naturally.


author: Brian E. Clark

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
In article <id4f8n$g4g$[email]>,
[email] says...

If I respond to your cross-posted question, which of us
bears the guilt?


author: taf

subject: Re: Plaintive Whale

text:
On Nov 30, 7:26 pm, Paul J Gans <[email]> wrote:

You know the deal.  Every group has their loons that think their
contributions on any subject are of interest to every member of every
group about anything that interests them (does the felt effect of
gravity or man as old as coal ring any bells - he used to post to our
group occasionally because, well, just because), trolls who are just
stirring the pot (DSH, although he was also a loon), and egomaniacs
who think that they are just too insightful not to share their wisdom
with a larger audience (our current crossposter, or DSH in his
earlier
days - hmm a pattern here).  Your problems coming from our side, of
late, primarily initiate with one person who has convinced himself
that everything our group talks about happened in the past so it is
just as relevant to medieval history, and likewise since Google
Groups
lets you do it they must have decided when they set up the newsgroups
that it was a good thing (that was probably shortly after Al Gore
invented the internet).  We used to have a tacit agreement - if he
would stop crossposting, I would stop ridiculing the apparent
dissonance between his educational training and his pompous
ignorance.
However, this became counterproductive - he has personalized it to
such an extent that every time I (or another poster who also tries to
get him not to crosspost) simply point out that he is jumping to
conclusions or misinterpreting the data or contradict him in any way,
he restarts crossposting just to annoy us (not giving a toss for how
many people he is annoying in the other group in the process - or
rather not accepting that they would be annoyed, as his contributions
are so insightful and relevant that they should be welcomed).

And of course everyone else just hits Respond without checking.  I
try
to shut it down as quick as I notice it, but maybe a complaint coming
from the other end will make a bigger impression. But I doubt it.

On the other hand, you have now introduced our group to the
crossposting loons and trolls from the other groups, so if your post
doesn't improve shm, at least it may have the benefit of turning ours
into the cesspool that shm has unfortunately become, so thanks for
that. :)  In all seriousness, I used to follow shm, from back when it
was first created (heck, I followed it before it was created, being
the person who first suggested the name when a USENET group to
discuss
the history of the Middle Ages was originally proposed) but have long
since abandoned it because of all of the the off-topic and
crossposted
noise. It used to be such a nice neighborhood, but not any more, not
for a long while. Sigh.

taf


author: Renia

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On 01/12/2010 05:26, Paul J Gans wrote:

Oh dear. Now another crossposted thread for people to play with.


author: Eric Stevens

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 03:26:15 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
<[email]> wrote:

After looking at your header data, I have to say, you mean "all you
_other_ folks".   :-)

Seriously, there is a place for cross posting. e.g there are a number
of topics which pop up from time to time which can be beneficially
cross posted to both sci.archaeology and soc.history.medieval. For
example, there is a place for an intelligent dialogue between
historians and archeologists as new archaeological discoveries are
made. There is no point in locking discussions in two separate rooms
between which no communication is possible.

The problem is not cross-posting as such but the abuse of
cross-posting.

Eric Stevens


author: Will in New Haven

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Nov 30, 10:26 pm, Paul J Gans <[email]> wrote:

Why did you leave out talk.origins?


author: Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On 12/1/10 12:02 AM, Brian E. Clark wrote:

	THUNDERDOME! TWO POSTERS ENTER! ONE POSTER LEAVES!


author: *Anarcissie*

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Nov 30, 10:26 pm, Paul J Gans <[email]> wrote:

We, the good people, might stop crossposting, but the trolls,
spammers, fools and lunatics will continue to crosspost, so
what difference will it make?

The only solution would be to reconstitute Usenet so that
crossposting was no longer supported.  That might save it.
But it does not appear that that's going to happen.


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
In article <id4l45$aop$[email]>,
[email] says...

Dang, I knew I should have brought my nail-studded baseball
bat with me today.


author: William December Starr

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
In article <id5ro6$stu$[email]>,
"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <[email]> said:

Chainsaws.  The *only* argument for aluminum baseball bats.

-- wds


author: jantero

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Nov 30, 10:02 pm, Brian E. Clark
<[email]> wrote:

<chuckle.....>


author: Erilar

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
Renia <[email]> wrote:

Since I only read shm on my iPad, which won't post to more than one
group and gives me shorter headings than my computer, i'm missing the
extras both coming and going 8-)


author: Michael A. Terrell

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
*Anarcissie* wrote:

   Supernews was dropping any message crossposted to five or more groups
when I was using it.


author: jmh

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Dec 1, 12:27 pm, "*Anarcissie*" <[email]> wrote:

Or use a news reader that supports kill files and score files.  They
do exist.

jmh


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Dec 1, 12:57 pm, jmh <[email]> wrote:

In spite of my kill files, I think Usenet has declined
pretty significantly, and I think one of the reasons is
that the ability to crosspost significantly adds to the
power of trolls and spammers, for instance Sound of
Trumpet posting sappy religious messages to
alt.atheism, where they are sure to find an appreciative
and responsive audience, with both the original
message and the innumerable responses posted to
several newsgroups which are not concerned with
sappy religious messages one way or the other.  In,
say, rec.arts.sf.written, sappy religious messages
wouldn't provoke a response and the threads would
quickly die away.

Cross-posting isn't the only problem, of course.


author: David Friedman

subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
In article
<[email]>,
 "*Anarcissie*" <[email]> wrote:

It's also possible to set up a moderated Usenet group where one of the
rules of moderation, perhaps the only one, is no crossposting.
Humanities.Philosophy.Objectivism was set up that way many years ago, as
a solution to the problem. It was a reasonably interesting group to
argue on for quite a while.


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Dec 2, 2:53 am, Eric Stevens <[email]> wrote:

I don't think it's a whole solution.  No doubt spammers could
post in thousands of newsgroups at a time, at least from spam-
friendly sites like Google, using automated tools to post in one
newsgroup at a time.  However, it would cut out the
backscatter.  For instance, by posting fatuous religious stuff
to alt.atheism and provoking derision and abuse in response,
Sound of Trumpet can flood four other newsgroups with, in
some cases, more than a thousand messages generated by
others.

I think David Friedman's suggestion was interesting.  We
could possibly migrate to newsgroups that prohibited
crossposting.


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Dec 3, 2:48 am, Eric Stevens <[email]> wrote:

Too true.  Still, I may give it a try.  These days Usenet seems
to be divided between lonely wastelands, busy wastelands, and
pure-spam wastelands.


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Dec 1, 3:09 pm, Eric Stevens <[email]> wrote:

We have to deal with a situation in which abusers are obviously
going to continue to abuse, as they have in the past, and many
news sites, such as Google, are not going to restrain them from
abusing.  That's the actuality of the situation, regardless of what
you want to call it.  Every public forum has to deal with anti-
social posters or go under.

I don't know if removing cross-posting from the news protocol is
even possible, or if it were done, that it would reduce the
spamming and trolling we observe, but I think it's worth a
try.  The alternative is continued decline.


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
"Michael A. Terrell" <[email]> wrote:
You can't crosspost on an iPad.  Too bsd this isn't true elsewhere 8-)


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:56:41 -0800 (PST), "*Anarcissie*"
<[email]> wrote:

You are welcome to try but, all such groups that I know of use some
form of moderation (including robot moderation) and have ended up as
lonely wastelands.

Eric Stevens


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
*Anarcissie* wrote:

   Stop using Google Groups and get a real news server.


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:59:41 -0800 (PST), "*Anarcissie*"
<[email]> wrote:

I don't think its even worth a try. The people who generate spam will
very quickly find a way to post to numerous groups individually rather
than cross-posting to multiple groups. In fact, if, for example, you
want to buy some Ugg boots you will find that is happening right now.

Eric Stevens


subject: Re: Plaintive Wail

text:
On 12/1/10 11:01 AM, Brian E. Clark wrote:

	Oh, just grab the chainsaw off the wall when you get in.


author: amigocabal

subject: JEWS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
THEY MURDERED THOUSAND PEOPLE IN JENIN AND NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE HOW
TO LIE THEIR WAY OUT OF THE CHARGES AGAINST THEM!


author: Jamie Gregorian

subject: AmigoCretin Lies Again Re: JEWS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
"amigocabal" <[email]> wrote in message news:<673z8.86310$[email]>...

No. They didn't:

Human Rights Watch: No evidence of massacre in Jenin
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/04/28/News/News.47858.html

As a UN fact-finding mission prepares to investigate allegations of a
massacre in Jenin, most aid workers in the city say that they have
come to one major conclusion - though massive destruction took place
in the refugee camp, there was clearly no massacre.

Aid workers and local doctors have found 52 corpses so far. The
workers believe that 21 of them were civilians, including four women,
two 14 year old boys, two invalids, and two or three elderly men.

"The majority of those killed," said Peter Bouckaert, a senior
researcher at US-based Human Rights Watch posted to Jenin, "were
killed by snipers. Only one man, that we know of, was crushed in his
home by a bulldozer." Bouckaert, whose group has worked closely with
medical teams at Jenin Hospital, believes that very few corpses remain
buried beneath the tons of rubble. The area of the worst destruction
has come to be known among foreign rescue workers, Palestinians, and
IDF soldiers alike, as "Ground Zero." Bouckaert was almost certain, he
told The Jerusalem Post, that the death toll will not rise beyond 80.

"There is simply no evidence of a massacre. But we are worried that
Israel will use this fact to whitewash the enormous amount of damage
done to the civilian sector." There is still no electricity in the
camp, burst water pipes have flooded low lying areas, and the camp's
two schools remain closed.

Posters of "martyrs" and Hamas and Islamic Jihad flags are again in
evidence on the few structures left standing at "Ground Zero." Aid
groups, including UNWRA, B'Tselem, LAW, Amnesty International, and
Human Rights Watch are still tallying lists of dead, injured, and
displaced, as well as the number of houses destroyed, rendered
unlivable, or simply damaged.

Nearly every building in the refugee camp, and many in Jenin city
itself, were damaged in the fierce two-week battle waged in the town.
The IDF estimates that about 10 percent of the structures in the camp
were destroyed, while Jenin Governor Zuneir Munasra said about 40% of
the camp's buildings were destroyed and another 20% rendered
unlivable.

The Jenin Governorate and other Palestinian Authority bodies have
halted the removal of debris ahead of today's arrival of the UN
commission headed by headed by former Finnish president Martti
Ahtisaari, despite the desire of UNWRA and other aid organizations to
restore the camp to normal

Also hindering search and rescue work, says UNWRA Deputy Director
Charles Capes, is the large number of unexploded ordinance lying about
the camp. Last week British and Norwegian sappers remove some of the
booby traps, but they returned home leaving most of the job undone. A
French Civil Guard rescue team began Friday to mark and isolate
buildings or areas believed to be unsafe.

Capes said Palestinian gunmen planted many of the booby traps while
other ordinance had been left behind by IDF. Since April 19 one person
has been killed and at least 12 were wounded by unexploded ordinance
in the camp.

Capes said that as many as 3,500 people have been left without
shelter. Munasra told the Post that many of them refuse to use the
some 800 tents and other equipment sent by US Agency for International
Development because they believe the US was "complicit in the attack
on their camp."


author: abdul hai

subject: Re: JEWS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
Not all are but the one's who live in Israel and the fools who support them

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/geneticdiseases/

"amigocabal" <[email]> wrote in message news:<673z8.86310$[email]>...


author: AK

subject: Re: JEWS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
"amigocabal" <[email]> wrote in message
news:673z8.86310$[email]...

[ ... omitted ... ]

Poster "Amigocabal" '[email]' is not credible.
This poster is a confirmed anti-semite, and you can never
tell when his/her posts are true or false without doing your
own checking.

cf the following post where poster '[email]'
demonstrates the anti-semitism and lack of credibility
of '[email]'

___________________________________________________________

From: "Quant" <[email]>
Subject: Re: EYEWITNESS REPORT
Date: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:51 AM

amigocabal is a racist and a liar motivated by blind fanatic hatred
He is what kill files are used for

on 04-02 he wrote, in response to a Jewish poster:
"You filth! Your day will come! And the ovens will be nice and hot!"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=amigocabal+holocaust+work+jews&hl=en&selm=
3CAA16E7.858FA51A%40bellsouth.net&rnum=1

on 04-01 he wrote:
"Holocaust is the work of jews!"
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&frame=right&th=d8eafda16db4ec33&seekm=
3CAA16E7.858FA51A%40bellsouth.net#link1

On 03-29 he wrote:
"Hitler had the right idea, he knew how to deal with crap!"

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:paredon%40bellsouth.net&start=230&h
l=en&selm=ZQZo8.39059%24Q7.26404107%40e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com&rnum=238

He told that he fought in WW1, WW2 and then he fought a few years ago
with the Australians RAAF in Timor against the Muslim fundamentalist.
So I believe that the RAAF had a 100 year old man in the RAAF! He
claims to be a Yugo (Serb) and yet knows nothing about the region. He
certainly does not know anything about Serbian history. For example he
reckons that the Serbs were pro Nazi during the war! The wonder of
that statement is mind blowing. He knows nothing about the Muslims and
the Nazis there too. He furthermore claims to be a Muslim and yet he
knows very little of the Islamic faith.
___________________________________________________________


author: peter terry

subject: Re: JEWS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
"amigocabal" <[email]> wrote in message
news:673z8.86310$[email]...
HOW


author: Amigocabal

subject: Re: AmigoCretin Lies Again Re: JEWS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
Jamie Gregorian wrote:

 IF THEY DID NOT WHY DON'T THEY ALLOW AHTISARI TO TAKE A LOOK AT JENIN? EVEN ADOLF HITLER ALLOWED RED CROSS TO GO INTO
HIS TORTURE CAMPS! NOT SHARON, HE WANTS TO KEEP IT A SECRET!


subject: JEWS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
Jamie Gregorian wrote:

 Date: 23/4/2002

Reference: 14/2/2002
Press News

Return of Mezan Delegation from Jenin Refugee Camp
Documentation of War Crimes in Jenin by Israeli Military Forces
A special foreign team from Mezan Center concluded a visit to the Jenin
Refugee Camp to investigate facts and to document Israeli crimes there.  The
team proceeded to the camp on foot, traversing the mountains from Salim
village from the Northwest to arrive in Jenin, bypassing Israeli roadblocks.
According to the team's accounts, the smell of death and decay was lingered
throughout the camp.  The medical staff at the local hospitals were unable
to give accounts of the injured from the battle as ambulances were denied
access to rescue them and most all perished.  A final tally of the dead and
the amount of damage is also yet unknown due to the scale of the
devastation.  However eyewitnesses were able to give several accounts that
alone indicate criminal acts.

Jenin refugee camp had a population of a little over 13,000.  At present,
the team was informed that only about 3,000 remained, with 10,000 or so
unaccounted for, either in hiding, detained or perished and uncovered.  The
Israeli forces in a 1 square km area demolished completely over 80 homes on
top of inhabitants, either living or deceased.  The buildings were then
compressed into fine dust and rubble, layering up to two stories above the
ground.  Along the perimeter of the demolished area are innumerable homes
that suffered extensive damage from Apache helicopter strikes, 105mm tank
shells, grenades and bulldozers.

 The staff at Shifa Charity Hospital estimated that between 300 and 500
persons were killed during the battle, fighters and civilians included.  The
exact number will take weeks to determine as the amount of rubble to uncover
is immense and requires heavy lifting equipment.  At least 1500 people are
known to have been detained and removed to a variety of centers around
Israel.  Some eyewitness mentioned that soldiers, who occupied a variety of
homes looted them extensively, including jewelry and cash.  Furthermore,
often what could not be taken, such as large electronics, were destroyed.
Many of the vandalized homes showed no signs of battle, indicating that the
destruction of personal property was deliberate.

 One witness saw Israelis executing a camp inhabitant after forcing him to
stand against a wall, blindfolded and handcuffed.  Another eyewitness saw
soldiers crushing the bodies of camp inhabitants with tanks after they had
been cuffed and thrown to the ground.  The bodies were pulverized by Merkava
tanks running back and forth until being rendered completely unrecognizable.
A wall was then crushed over them to further hide the evidence.

 Ahmed Mahmoud Fayed told the story of his paralyzed brother who remained
behind in his house as his parents fled.  The parents pleaded to be allowed
to remove Jamal Fayed, but the Israeli soldiers ignored them and demolished
the home with him inside.  Rescue workers have yet been unable to uncover
Jamal's body under the debris.

In addition to these instances, the Jenin camp is still suffering gravely
from the complete destruction of infrastructure.  This includes the total
loss of water services, electricity, sewerage pipes, telephone systems and
garbage collection.  Residents had to endure with this situation for almost
two weeks before curfews were lifted, but even now, humanitarian aid is slow
to arrive.  The pile up of rotting garbage and a lack of a sewerage system
has begun to create an ecological crisis in the camp and city.

The Mezan team found that the incidents in the Jenin camp indicate a
systematic massacre and subsequent cover up.  This is substantiated by the
Israeli attempts to bar the entry of journalists, medical workers, the
United Nations and humanitarian aid for six full days after the fighting in
the camp ended.  Even local ambulances from the nearby Shifa Charity
Hospital were prevented from entering the camp for a full five days after
fighting ended, dooming any wounded still alive.

Al Mezan condemns the crimes committed by the Israeli military forces and in
accordance with the 4th Geneva convention in regards to civilians in the
time of war, and calls for the Israeli government to place those responsible
before a criminal court.  The ultimate responsibility for the actions in
Jenin Refugee Camp, according to articles 27 and 28 of the International
Criminal Court, lies with the Israeli military forces and the leaders that
gave the orders or permitted such crimes to occur. While such persons may
remain above the law in Israel, they must be brought to justice in an
international setting so as to preclude others from acting in this manner
with impunity.

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author: Michael Martin-Smith

subject: Re: JEWS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
Being technical for a moment, Vultures can fly , but Jews cannot.
"abdul hai" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
them
news:<673z8.86310$[email]>...
HOW


subject: Re: MUSLIMS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
MUSLIMS ARE VOLTURES!

ir
"abdul hai" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


subject: j MUSLIMS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
"abdul hai" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


subject: Re: JEWS ARE VOLTURES!

text:
TALMUD UNCENSORED;

The following are summarized references to Christians and Christianity from
the uncensored books of the Talmud:(Footnote 90)

Abhodah Zarah (22a) Don't associate with gentiles, they shed blood
Iore Dea (153, 2). Must not associate with Christians, shed blood
Abhodah Zarah (25b). Beware of Christians when walking with them.
Orach Chaiim (20, 2). Christians disguise themselves to kill Jews.
Abhodah Zarah (15b) Christians have sex relations with animals.
Abhodah Zarah (22a) Suspect Christians of intercourse with animals.
Schabbath (145b) Christians unclean because they eat accordingly
Abhodah Zarah (22b) Christians unclean because not at Mount Sinai.
Iore Dea (198, 48). Clean female Jews contaminated by Christians.
Kerithuth (6b p. 78) Jews called men, Christians not called men.
Makkoth (7b) Innocent of murder if intent to kill Christian.
Orach Chaiim (225, 10) Christians and animals grouped.
Midrasch Talpioth 225 Christians created to minister to Jews.
Orach Chaiim 57, 6a Christians to be pitied more than sick pigs.
Zohar II (64b) Christian idolaters likened to cows and asses.
Kethuboth (110b). Psalmist compares Christians to unclean beasts.
Sanhedrin (74b). Tos. Sexual intercourse of Christian like beast.
Kethuboth (3b) The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast.
Kidduschim (68a) Christians like the people of an ass.
Eben Haezar (44,8) Marriages between Christian and Jews null.
Zohar (II, 64b) Christian birth rate to be diminished materially.
Zohar (I, 28b) Christian idolaters children of Eve's serpent.
Zohar (I, 131a) Idolatrous people (Christians) befoul the world.
Emek Haschanach (17a) Non-Jews' souls come from death and its shadow.
Zohar (I, 46b, 47a) Souls of gentiles have unclean divine origins.
Rosch Haschanach (17a) Non-Jews souls go down to hell.
Iore Dea (337, 1). Replace dead Christians like lost cow or ass.
Iebhammoth (61a) Jews called men, but not Christians called men.
Abhodah Zarah (14b) T. Not to sell religious works to Christians.
Abhodah Zarah (78) Christian churches are places of idolatry.
Iore Dea (142, 10) Must keep far away physically from churches.
Iore Dea (142, 15) Do not listen to church music or look at idols.
Iore Dea (143, 1) Must not rebuild homes destroyed near churches.
Hilkoth Abh. Zar. (10b) Jews must nor resell broken chalices to Christians.
Schabbath (116a) Tos. Gospels called volumes of iniquity, heretical books.
Schabbath (116a). Talmudists agree that books of Christians to be burned.
Abhodah Zarah (2a). Festivals of Christians called days of calamity.
Abhodah Zarah (78c). Christian feast days despicable, vain and evil.
Abhodah Zarah (6a). Forbidden to observe Christian Christmas day.
Hikoth Akum (ch.IX). Forbidden to celebrate Easter and Christmas.
Chullin (91b) Jews possess dignity even angels cannot share.
Sanhedrin, 58b To strike Israelite like slapping face of God.
Chagigah, 15b A Jew considered good in spite of sins he commits.
Gittin (62a) Jew stay away from Christian homes on holidays.
Choschen Ham. (26,1) Jew not sue before a Christian judge or laws.
Choschen Ham (34,19) Christian or servant cannot become witnesses.
Iore Dea (112, 1). Eating with Christians, breeds familiarity.
Abhodah Zarah (35b) Not drink milk from cow milked by Christian.
Iore Dea (178, 1) Not imitate Christian customs, even hair-comb.
Abhodah Zarah (72b) Discard wine touched by Christians.
Iore Dea (120, 1) Bought-dishes from Christians to be well-washed.
Abhodah Zarah (2a) Avoid all, for 3 days before Christian festivals.
Abhodah Zarah (78c) Christian festivals regarded as idolatry.
Iore Dea (139, 1) Avoid things used in Christian worship.
Abhodah Zarah (14b) Don't sell Christians articles for worship.
Iore Dea (151, 1) H. Don't sell water to Christians for baptisms.
Abhodah Zarah (2a, 1) No trade with Christians on feast days.
Abhodah Zarah (1, 2) Now such trade permitted.
Abhodah Zarah (2aT) Trade because they have money to pay.
Iore Dea (148, 5) If Christian not devout, send him gifts.
Hilkoth Akum (IX, 2) Send gifts to Christians only if irreligious.
Iore Dea (81, 7 Ha) Christian wet-nurses dangerous.
Iore Dea (153, 1 H) Christian nurse will lead children to heresy.
Iore Dea (155, 1). Avoid unknown Christian doctors.
Peaschim (25a) Avoid medical help from idolaters (Christians).
Iore Dea (156, 1) Avoid Christian barbers unless escorted by Jews.
Abhodah Zarah (26a). Christian midwives dangerous when alone.
Zohar (1, 25b) Those good to Christians never rise when dead.
Hilkoth Akum (X, 6) Help needy Christians if it will promote peace.
Iore Dea (148, 12H) Hide hatred for Christians at celebrations.
Abhodah Zarah (20a) Never praise Christians lest it be believed.
Iore Dea (151, 14) Don't praise Christians to add to glory.
Hilkoth Akum (V, 12) Quote Scriptures to stop mention of their god
Iore Dea (146, 15) Christian religious articles contemptible.
Iore Dea (147, 5) Deride Christian religious articles.
Hilkoth Akum (X, 5) No gifts to Christians, gifts to converts.
Iore Dea (151, 11) No gifts to Christians, encourages friendship.
Iore Dea (335, 43) Exile for that Jew who sells farm to Christian.
Iore Dea (154, 2) Forbidden to teach a trade to a Christian.
Babha Bathra (54b) Christian property belongs to first claimant.
Choschen Ham (183, 7) Keep what Christian overpays in error.
Choschen Ham (226, 1) Jew may keep lost property of Christian.
Babha Kama (113b) It is permitted to deceive Christians.
Choschen Ham (183, 7) Jews divide what they overcharge Christians.
Choschen Ham (156, 5) Must not take Christian customers from Jews.
Iore Dea (157, 2) H May deceive all who believe Christian tenets.
Abhodah Zarah (54a) Usury practiced on Christians or apostates.
Iore Dea (159, 1) Usury permitted now for any reason to Christians.
Babha Kama (113a) Jew may lie and perjure to condemn a Christian.
Babha Kama (113b) Name of God unprofaned when lying to Christians.
Kallah (1b, p.18) Jew may perjure himself with a clear conscience.
Schabbouth Hag. (6d). Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge.
Zohar (1, 160a). Jews must always try to deceive Christians.
Iore Dea (158, 1) Do not cure Christians unless it makes enemies.
Orach Cahiim (330, 2) Not assist Christian's childbirth on Saturday
Choschen Ham.(425, 5) Unless Torah believer, don't prevent death.
Iore Dea (158, 1) Christians not enemies must not be saved either.
Hilkkoth Akum (X, 1) Do not save Christians in danger of death.
Choschen Ham (386, 10) A spy may be killed even before he confesses.
Abhodah Zarah (26b) Apostates to be cast into well, not rescued.
Choschen Ham (388,15) Kill all who give Jews' money to Christians.
Sanhedrin (59a) "Prying into Jews' "Law" to get death penalty.
Hilkhoth Akum (X, 2) Baptized Jews are to be put to death.
Iore Dea (158, 2) Hag. Kill renegades who turn to Christian rituals.
Choschen Ham (425, 5) Those who do not believe in Torah to be killed
Hilkhoth tesch.III, 8 Christians deny the "Law" of the Torah.
Zohar (I, 25a) Christians to be destroyed as idolaters.
Zohar (II, 19a) Captivity of Jews end when Christian princes die.
Zohar (I, 219b) Princes of Christians are idolaters, must die.
Obadiam When Rome is destroyed, Israel will be redeemed.
Abhodah Zarah (26b) T. Even the best of the Goim should be killed.
Sepher Or Israel 177b If Jew kills Christian commits no sin.
Ialkut Simoni (245c) Shedding blood of impious sacrifice to God.
Zohar (II,43a). Extermination of Christian necessary sacrifice.
Zohar (L, 28b, 39a) High place in heaven for all who kill idolaters.
Hilkhoth Akum (X, 1) Make no agreement, show no mercy to Christians
Hilkhoth Akum (X, 1) Turn them away from their idols or kill.
Hilkhoth Akum (X, 7). Allow no idolators to remain where Jews are strong.
Choschen Ham (388,16) All contribute to cost of killing traitor.
Pesachim (49b) No need of prayers while beheading on Sabbath.
Schabbath (118a). Prayers save from punishment of coming Messiah.


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talmud for laymen

The following are summarized references to Christians and Christianity from
the uncensored books of the Talmud:(Footnote 90)

Abhodah Zarah (22a) Don't associate with gentiles, they shed blood
Iore Dea (153, 2). Must not associate with Christians, shed blood
Abhodah Zarah (25b). Beware of Christians when walking with them.
Orach Chaiim (20, 2). Christians disguise themselves to kill Jews.
Abhodah Zarah (15b) Christians have sex relations with animals.
Abhodah Zarah (22a) Suspect Christians of intercourse with animals.
Schabbath (145b) Christians unclean because they eat accordingly
Abhodah Zarah (22b) Christians unclean because not at Mount Sinai.
Iore Dea (198, 48). Clean female Jews contaminated by Christians.
Kerithuth (6b p. 78) Jews called men, Christians not called men.
Makkoth (7b) Innocent of murder if intent to kill Christian.
Orach Chaiim (225, 10) Christians and animals grouped.
Midrasch Talpioth 225 Christians created to minister to Jews.
Orach Chaiim 57, 6a Christians to be pitied more than sick pigs.
Zohar II (64b) Christian idolaters likened to cows and asses.
Kethuboth (110b). Psalmist compares Christians to unclean beasts.
Sanhedrin (74b). Tos. Sexual intercourse of Christian like beast.
Kethuboth (3b) The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast.
Kidduschim (68a) Christians like the people of an ass.
Eben Haezar (44,8) Marriages between Christian and Jews null.
Zohar (II, 64b) Christian birth rate to be diminished materially.
Zohar (I, 28b) Christian idolaters children of Eve's serpent.
Zohar (I, 131a) Idolatrous people (Christians) befoul the world.
Emek Haschanach (17a) Non-Jews' souls come from death and its shadow.
Zohar (I, 46b, 47a) Souls of gentiles have unclean divine origins.
Rosch Haschanach (17a) Non-Jews souls go down to hell.
Iore Dea (337, 1). Replace dead Christians like lost cow or ass.
Iebhammoth (61a) Jews called men, but not Christians called men.
Abhodah Zarah (14b) T. Not to sell religious works to Christians.
Abhodah Zarah (78) Christian churches are places of idolatry.
Iore Dea (142, 10) Must keep far away physically from churches.
Iore Dea (142, 15) Do not listen to church music or look at idols.
Iore Dea (143, 1) Must not rebuild homes destroyed near churches.
Hilkoth Abh. Zar. (10b) Jews must nor resell broken chalices to Christians.
Schabbath (116a) Tos. Gospels called volumes of iniquity, heretical books.
Schabbath (116a). Talmudists agree that books of Christians to be burned.
Abhodah Zarah (2a). Festivals of Christians called days of calamity.
Abhodah Zarah (78c). Christian feast days despicable, vain and evil.
Abhodah Zarah (6a). Forbidden to observe Christian Christmas day.
Hikoth Akum (ch.IX). Forbidden to celebrate Easter and Christmas.
Chullin (91b) Jews possess dignity even angels cannot share.
Sanhedrin, 58b To strike Israelite like slapping face of God.
Chagigah, 15b A Jew considered good in spite of sins he commits.
Gittin (62a) Jew stay away from Christian homes on holidays.
Choschen Ham. (26,1) Jew not sue before a Christian judge or laws.
Choschen Ham (34,19) Christian or servant cannot become witnesses.
Iore Dea (112, 1). Eating with Christians, breeds familiarity.
Abhodah Zarah (35b) Not drink milk from cow milked by Christian.
Iore Dea (178, 1) Not imitate Christian customs, even hair-comb.
Abhodah Zarah (72b) Discard wine touched by Christians.
Iore Dea (120, 1) Bought-dishes from Christians to be well-washed.
Abhodah Zarah (2a) Avoid all, for 3 days before Christian festivals.
Abhodah Zarah (78c) Christian festivals regarded as idolatry.
Iore Dea (139, 1) Avoid things used in Christian worship.
Abhodah Zarah (14b) Don't sell Christians articles for worship.
Iore Dea (151, 1) H. Don't sell water to Christians for baptisms.
Abhodah Zarah (2a, 1) No trade with Christians on feast days.
Abhodah Zarah (1, 2) Now such trade permitted.
Abhodah Zarah (2aT) Trade because they have money to pay.
Iore Dea (148, 5) If Christian not devout, send him gifts.
Hilkoth Akum (IX, 2) Send gifts to Christians only if irreligious.
Iore Dea (81, 7 Ha) Christian wet-nurses dangerous.
Iore Dea (153, 1 H) Christian nurse will lead children to heresy.
Iore Dea (155, 1). Avoid unknown Christian doctors.
Peaschim (25a) Avoid medical help from idolaters (Christians).
Iore Dea (156, 1) Avoid Christian barbers unless escorted by Jews.
Abhodah Zarah (26a). Christian midwives dangerous when alone.
Zohar (1, 25b) Those good to Christians never rise when dead.
Hilkoth Akum (X, 6) Help needy Christians if it will promote peace.
Iore Dea (148, 12H) Hide hatred for Christians at celebrations.
Abhodah Zarah (20a) Never praise Christians lest it be believed.
Iore Dea (151, 14) Don't praise Christians to add to glory.
Hilkoth Akum (V, 12) Quote Scriptures to stop mention of their god
Iore Dea (146, 15) Christian religious articles contemptible.
Iore Dea (147, 5) Deride Christian religious articles.
Hilkoth Akum (X, 5) No gifts to Christians, gifts to converts.
Iore Dea (151, 11) No gifts to Christians, encourages friendship.
Iore Dea (335, 43) Exile for that Jew who sells farm to Christian.
Iore Dea (154, 2) Forbidden to teach a trade to a Christian.
Babha Bathra (54b) Christian property belongs to first claimant.
Choschen Ham (183, 7) Keep what Christian overpays in error.
Choschen Ham (226, 1) Jew may keep lost property of Christian.
Babha Kama (113b) It is permitted to deceive Christians.
Choschen Ham (183, 7) Jews divide what they overcharge Christians.
Choschen Ham (156, 5) Must not take Christian customers from Jews.
Iore Dea (157, 2) H May deceive all who believe Christian tenets.
Abhodah Zarah (54a) Usury practiced on Christians or apostates.
Iore Dea (159, 1) Usury permitted now for any reason to Christians.
Babha Kama (113a) Jew may lie and perjure to condemn a Christian.
Babha Kama (113b) Name of God unprofaned when lying to Christians.
Kallah (1b, p.18) Jew may perjure himself with a clear conscience.
Schabbouth Hag. (6d). Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge.
Zohar (1, 160a). Jews must always try to deceive Christians.
Iore Dea (158, 1) Do not cure Christians unless it makes enemies.
Orach Cahiim (330, 2) Not assist Christian's childbirth on Saturday
Choschen Ham.(425, 5) Unless Torah believer, don't prevent death.
Iore Dea (158, 1) Christians not enemies must not be saved either.
Hilkkoth Akum (X, 1) Do not save Christians in danger of death.
Choschen Ham (386, 10) A spy may be killed even before he confesses.
Abhodah Zarah (26b) Apostates to be cast into well, not rescued.
Choschen Ham (388,15) Kill all who give Jews' money to Christians.
Sanhedrin (59a) "Prying into Jews' "Law" to get death penalty.
Hilkhoth Akum (X, 2) Baptized Jews are to be put to death.
Iore Dea (158, 2) Hag. Kill renegades who turn to Christian rituals.
Choschen Ham (425, 5) Those who do not believe in Torah to be killed
Hilkhoth tesch.III, 8 Christians deny the "Law" of the Torah.
Zohar (I, 25a) Christians to be destroyed as idolaters.
Zohar (II, 19a) Captivity of Jews end when Christian princes die.
Zohar (I, 219b) Princes of Christians are idolaters, must die.
Obadiam When Rome is destroyed, Israel will be redeemed.
Abhodah Zarah (26b) T. Even the best of the Goim should be killed.
Sepher Or Israel 177b If Jew kills Christian commits no sin.
Ialkut Simoni (245c) Shedding blood of impious sacrifice to God.
Zohar (II,43a). Extermination of Christian necessary sacrifice.
Zohar (L, 28b, 39a) High place in heaven for all who kill idolaters.
Hilkhoth Akum (X, 1) Make no agreement, show no mercy to Christians
Hilkhoth Akum (X, 1) Turn them away from their idols or kill.
Hilkhoth Akum (X, 7). Allow no idolators to remain where Jews are strong.
Choschen Ham (388,16) All contribute to cost of killing traitor.
Pesachim (49b) No need of prayers while beheading on Sabbath.
Schabbath (118a). Prayers save from punishment of coming Messiah.


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How to hate people effectively.

YES! YOU CAN HATE, TOO! Hating people isn't difficult, it does no require
any
skills, education or intimate knowledge of any given subject.It does not
matter which particular group, real or imagined, you belong to you belong to
or wish you belonged to, anyone can hate. Whoever you are, there's always a
group to hate for you. The following text provides a short introduction into
the simple world of hating people.

1.      Why hate?

        The reason people hate other people is very varied, but below you'll
        find a few of the more common ones

        - Hating people makes it easy to overshout feelings of inferiority.

        - Blaming easily recognizable groups is a lot easier than accepting
          that something vague and abstract as 'the economy' is responsable
          for your financial woes and is a lot more satisfying emotionally.

        - Blaming some easily recognizable group is a lot easier than taking
          responsability for the state of your neighbourhood, city, country
          yourself.

        - Your ego will thrive on feelings of superiority over the group you
          wish to hate.

        - You are never lost for an easy answer and have a readily available
          set of abusive terms handy for every occasion. You can hate any
          group for any reason.

        - Having a good set of prejudices gives you an easy excuse not to
          learn about some other culture or to have to delve too deep into all
          kinds of social and economic problems.

        - It gives you a good subject to ridicule, enforcing your feelings of
          superiority.

2.      Who to hate?

        The selection of the group to hate is not something trivial. Here's a
        short checklist.

        - The object of your hatred must be easy to describe with a single
        preferably monosylabic word, eventhough two sylables will do, too.

        - You should have no relations whatsoever with the group you wish to
        hate. If this means breaking existing relations, so be it. Preferably
        you have never knowingly met any member of the group you wish to hate,
        nor should any member of your direct social environment have any
        contact with members of the group you wish to hate.

        - The group to hate should preferably not be in a position to counter
        any verbal of physical attack. Especially the presence of civilian
        rights groups and/or vocal advocates is a hindrance to hating any
        particular group. Preferaby the group to hate should be poor and
        undereducated, or otherwise on the fringe of society.

        - The group to hate should preferably not have a strong social
        cohesion. If they _do_ have a strong social cohesion, try to sow
        dissent amonsgt them. Always target individuals wich are usually
        easy victims if you operate in a group. If the group you intend
        to hate does have a strong social cohesion, this can be used in your
        arsenal of prejudice (see below).

        - The group you wish to hate should not have ready access to media or
        vocal advocates. They should be easy to dehumanize and readily
        identifiable as a group. Group membership may be derived from
        particular physical traits, ethnicity, convictions, preferences or
        any other criterion. The criterion should be obvious enough to define
        the group you wish to hate.

        - It is alway best to choose a popular group to hate. Remember, it's
        far easier to hate in groups than it is to hate alone. People should
        easily be able to distinguish the object of your hatred as a separate
        group.

3.      How to hate.

        Eventhough it is hardly possible to archive and categorize all the
        different approaches people take to hating, a few commonly occurring
        themes are listed below:

        - Fear. This is your primary tool. Fear can be spread easily and as
        one of the great prophets of hatred allready noted. Fear of the
        nearing end of civilisation is always a good one, but inventive minds
        can find, and indeed have found a multitude of variants on this
        theme. A large body of literature exists on which you can found these
        fears, many other sources can be twisted to support the fear you wish
        to spread.

        - Lies. People are used to little lies, so if they hear a big lie,
        they'll think there must be at least some thruth to it. Therefore
        always lie big. Always make sure to assoiciate members of the group
        you wish to hate with as much atrocities, crimes and repulsive
        behaviors as you can.

        - Dehumanize individual members of the group you wish to hate. Deny
        they have feelings, opinions, thoughts, refer to them as 'vermin' or
        use specific terms, preferably no longer than two syllables. The
        catchier the better.

        - Common Responsability. This is one of the cornerstones of hatred. It
        simply states than any member of the group you wish to hate is
        responsable for the behavior of every other member. Remember always to
        generalize and always talk about the subject of your hatred as a
        group.

        - Peculiarities. If the group you wish to hate has any peculiarities,
        like wearing specific garments or having a specific cuisine, make
        sure to include this in your hate. This makes members of the group
        you wish to hate easily distinguishable and underlines the
        differences between the group you wish to hate and the group you like
        to belong to.

        - Avoid distinguishing between different subgroups or even
        individuals except to single out prominent members for individual
        treatment. Remember, its' always them or us, black or white.

        - Always rememberthat anyone who does not speak out directly against
        you agrees with you.

        - Always remember that a good hater starts with a little contempt.
        Never miss a chance to foster the spark of contempt into the flames of
        hate. Remember, it is always easier to hate in a group than it is to
        hate individually.

        - Always go for total submission of the group you wish to hate. Make
        sure you deny them any way to organize or to educate yourself.
        Remember that organisation, solidarity and education are your
        principal enemies, and should be destroyed or undermined whereever
        they are found.

        This can be achieved in a number of ways:

                * lack of education, illiteracy,
                * bad language control
                * social and economic deprevation,
                * systematic discrimination and humiliations
                * intimidation,
                * violence.

        Violence can be either verbal or physical, of course and inventive
        minds can find many variations on the same basic theme. The object is
        always the total submission of the subject of your hate.

The things you should beware of.

        - Compassion. Since compassion requires understanding of the position
        of individuals, it undermines the principles of shared responsability
        and undermines any effort to dehumanize the group you wish to hate.

        - Love. This powerful emotion has been known to swing opinions and
        turn otherwise indifferent people to vehement advocates of the group
        you wish to hate. Should any member of your social group happen to
        fall in love with a member of the group you wish to hate, extreme
        measures are called for. Remember, loving a member of the group you
        wish to hate is actually preferring one of them over one of us.

        - Reason. This is your principal enemy since much hate rests on
        logical fallacies like undue generalisations as adherents to reason
        will be quick to point out.

        - Communication. Communication with members of the group you wish to
        hate quickly dispells the prejudice a good hater relies on.
        Preferably the group you wish to hate has no coherent way to
        communicate at all, but at least contact between your social group
        and the group you wish to hate is restricted.

        - Vocal advocates. They will quicky tear the web of lies you rely on
        to rationalize your hatred apart. Anyone more than indifferent is a
        vocal advocate and should immediately be associated with the group
        you wish to hate and be treated as such.

        - Debate. Any organized debate requires arguments which are subject
        to the scrutiny of others. This must be avoided at all costs.
        Shouting, personal abuse or swamping your opponent with lies is
        always a good way out of a debate. Violence (verbal or otherwise) is
        always a good option.

Arsenal of Prejudice

Your arsenal of prejudice can be filled with any preculiarity, habit, or
indeed any real or perceived attribute. Just use what little imagination you
have and you can come up whith something negative about a member of the
group
you wish to hate. For instance:

        * If the group you wish to hate has a strong social cohesion, make it
          a conspiracy.

        * If the group you wish to hate likes eating carrots, they are stupid
          carrot-eaters, carrot-fuckers, clueless rabbits and everything else
          you can come up with.

        * if any member of the group you wish to hate ever rode a donkey, they
          are donkey-fuckers.

The list you can come up with is endless and there are many other examples
like it to be found, especially if you choose a popular group to hate.

Keep practising these phrases until you can burp them out ithout thinking.
The latter should be avoided, since most of the prejudices are really
stupid,
and will loose their charm if thought is applied.

If you red this manual carefully, never think about it. Remember Thinking is
_BAD_ since it will destroy the basic foundation of stupidity hate relies
on.

This course was brought to you as a part of the 'Dandelion Principle'
initiative. It has no intention of being complete and offers no more than a
practical guide to hating people.  Reproduction in any form, electronic or
otherwise is strongly encouraged. For more information on the dandelion
principle, see http://www.dandelion.org


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How to hate people effectively.

YES! YOU CAN HATE, TOO! Hating people isn't difficult, it does no require
any
skills, education or intimate knowledge of any given subject.It does not
matter which particular group, real or imagined, you belong to you belong to
or wish you belonged to, anyone can hate. Whoever you are, there's always a
group to hate for you. The following text provides a short introduction into
the simple world of hating people.

1.      Why hate?

        The reason people hate other people is very varied, but below you'll
        find a few of the more common ones

        - Hating people makes it easy to overshout feelings of inferiority.

        - Blaming easily recognizable groups is a lot easier than accepting
          that something vague and abstract as 'the economy' is responsable
          for your financial woes and is a lot more satisfying emotionally.

        - Blaming some easily recognizable group is a lot easier than taking
          responsability for the state of your neighbourhood, city, country
          yourself.

        - Your ego will thrive on feelings of superiority over the group you
          wish to hate.

        - You are never lost for an easy answer and have a readily available
          set of abusive terms handy for every occasion. You can hate any
          group for any reason.

        - Having a good set of prejudices gives you an easy excuse not to
          learn about some other culture or to have to delve too deep into all
          kinds of social and economic problems.

        - It gives you a good subject to ridicule, enforcing your feelings of
          superiority.

2.      Who to hate?

        The selection of the group to hate is not something trivial. Here's a
        short checklist.

        - The object of your hatred must be easy to describe with a single
        preferably monosylabic word, eventhough two sylables will do, too.

        - You should have no relations whatsoever with the group you wish to
        hate. If this means breaking existing relations, so be it. Preferably
        you have never knowingly met any member of the group you wish to hate,
        nor should any member of your direct social environment have any
        contact with members of the group you wish to hate.

        - The group to hate should preferably not be in a position to counter
        any verbal of physical attack. Especially the presence of civilian
        rights groups and/or vocal advocates is a hindrance to hating any
        particular group. Preferaby the group to hate should be poor and
        undereducated, or otherwise on the fringe of society.

        - The group to hate should preferably not have a strong social
        cohesion. If they _do_ have a strong social cohesion. This makes them
        individuals, wich are usually easy victims. If the group you intend
        to hate does have a strong social cohesion, this can be used in your
        arsenal of prejudice (see below).

        - The group you wish to hate should not have ready access to media or
        vocal advocates. They should be easy to dehumanize and readily
        identifiable as a group. Group membership may be derived from
        particular physical traits, ethnicity, convictions, preferences or
        any other criterion. The criterion should be obvious enough to define
        the group you wish to hate.

        - It is alway best to choose a popular group to hate. Remember, it's
        far easier to hate in groups than it is to hate alone. People should
        easily be able to distinguish the object of your hatred as a separate
        group.

3.      How to hate.

        Eventhough it is hardly possible to archive and categorize all the
        different approaches people take to hating, a few commonly occurring
        themes are listed below:

        - Fear. This is your primary tool. Fear can be spread easily and as
        one of the great prophets of hatred allready noted. Fear of the
        nearing end of civilisation is always a good one, but inventive minds
        can find, and indeed have found a multitude of variants on this
        theme. A large body of literature exists on which you can found these
        fears, many other sources can be twisted to support the fear you wish
        to spread.

        - Lies. People are used to little lies, so if they hear a big lie,
        they'll think there must be at least some thruth to it. Therefore
        always lie big. Always make sure to assoiciate members of the group
        you wish to hate with as much atrocities, crimes and repulsive
        behaviors as you can.

        - Dehumanize individual members of the group you wish to hate. Deny
        they have feelings, opinions, thoughts, refer to them as 'vermin' or
        use specific terms, preferably no longer than two syllables. The
        catchier the better.

        - Common Responsability. This is one of the cornerstones of hatred. It
        simply states than any member of the group you wish to hate is
        responsable for the behavior of every other member. Remember always to
        generalize and always talk about the subject of your hatred as a
        group.

        - Peculiarities. If the group you wish to hate has any peculiarities,
        like wearing specific garments or having a specific cuisine, make
        sure to include this in your hate. This makes members of the group
        you wish to hate easily distinguishable and underlines the
        differences between the group you wish to hate and the group you like
        to belong to.

        - Avoid distinguishing between different subgroups or even
        individuals except to single out prominent members for individual
        treatment. Remember, its' always them or us, black or white.

        - Always rememberthat anyone who does not speak out directly against
        you agrees with you.

        - Always remember that a good hater starts with a little contempt.
        Never miss a chance to foster the spark of contempt into the flames of
        hate. Remember, it is always easier to hate in a group than it is to
        hate individually.

        - Always go for total submission of the group you wish to hate. Make
        sure you deny them any way to organize or to educate yourself.
        Remember that organisation, solidarity and education are your
        principal enemies, and should be destroyed or undermined whereever
        they are found.

        This can be achieved in a number of ways:

                * lack of education, illiteracy,
                * bad language control
                * social and economic deprevation,
                * systematic discrimination and humiliations
                * intimidation,
                * violence.

        Violence can be either verbal or physical, of course and inventive
        minds can find many variations on the same basic theme. The object is
        always the total submission of the subject of your hate.

The things you should beware of.

        - Compassion. Since compassion requires understanding of the position
        of individuals, it undermines the principles of shared responsability
        and undermines any effort to dehumanize the group you wish to hate.

        - Love. This powerful emotion has been known to swing opinions and
        turn otherwise indifferent people to vehement advocates of the group
        you wish to hate. Should any member of your social group happen to
        fall in love with a member of the group you wish to hate, extreme
        measures are called for. Remember, loving a member of the group you
        wish to hate is actually preferring one of them over one of us.

        - Reason. This is your principal enemy since much hate rests on
        logical fallacies like undue generalisations as adherents to reason
        will be quick to point out.

        - Communication. Communication with members of the group you wish to
        hate quickly dispells the prejudice a good hater relies on.
        Preferably the group you wish to hate has no coherent way to
        communicate at all, but at least contact between your social group
        and the group you wish to hate is restricted.

        - Vocal advocates. They will quicky tear the web of lies you rely on
        to rationalize your hatred apart. Anyone more than indifferent is a
        vocal advocate and should immediately be associated with the group
        you wish to hate and be treated as such.

        - Debate. Any organized debate requires arguments which are subject
        to the scrutiny of others. This must be avoided at all costs.
        Shouting, personal abuse or swamping your opponent with lies is
        always a good way out of a debate. Violence (verbal or otherwise) is
        always a good option.

This course was brought to you as a part of the 'Dandelion Principle'
initiative. It has no intention of being complete and offers no more than a
practical guide to hating people.  Reproduction in any form, electronic or
otherwise is strongly encouraged. For more information on the dandelion
principle, see http://www.dandelion.org


author: Tom Camfield

text:
STOUT, John; Nottinghamshire, ENG; m. 1609

JOHN STOUT m. 13 Nov 1609, Burton Joyce, Nottinghamshire, England,
ELIZABETH BEE. Dos anyone have ancestry for either John or Elizabeth,
parents of American immigrant RICHARD STOUT (b. 1615)?

Thanks,

Tom Camfield - [email]


author: Rhialto

subject: Re: What Asian race has Best looking women?

text:
Dracula wrote:

mm, 593K of images attached. Mind if I send my next phone bill your way?

Hint: posting images on a text-only newsgroup is bad nettiquette. But then,
Im sure you knew that, which is why you did it, no?

---
Rhialto
A country can be judged by the quality of its proverbs.


author: Bast

subject: Re: The discreet charm of a 9/11 radio kook: All of this is, of course, total ping-pong-balls-for-brains nonsense.

text:
BDK wrote:

Good, I'm sure the Black Van/Helicopter guys, have LOTS for you to read.
Better read it at the office though, as Obama may still try to shut down the
internet, with his "excutive orders".


author: Tony Dragon

subject:
Re: The discreet charm of a 9/11 radio kook: All of this is, of course,
 total ping-pong-balls-for-brains nonsense.

text:
On 28/04/2013 00:06, Bast wrote:

How will he shut the internet down in say Australia, Japan, Iran, UK,
France?


author: Government Shill #2

text:
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:18:02 +0100, Tony Dragon <[email]>
wrote:

Don't you know?

Standard American-English terminology:
 "on this planet" = USA...
 "the whole freakin' universe" = ...plus Canada and Mexico
    jonty

Shill #2
--
War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
 Ambrose Bierce


author: Jason Murray - The Great One

subject: Re: Letter to a Black Friend

text:
"Karl" <[email]> wrote in message
news:3fba3d4f$0$25036$[email]...

That's what a lot of AA's would like us and other to believe, but the truth
is, those arts are a result of little opportunities and life in the ghetto.
Very few African traits are left in the AA community.  The American white
man had absolutely no respect for Africa of the Africans they took.  We may
be call African-American, but Puerto-Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans, Brazilians,
Jamaicans and so forth have their African culture mixed in with the relative
Iberian culture, which happened to have come from Africa in large.  AA's are
the least African in culture and language, but the most African in attitude
and in the mind.  Most of the others mentioned want nothing to do with
Africa, black or AA.  They just want to be European because that they feel
is the easy way out.  That is similar to North Africans and middle
easterners just accepting arabness.  The irony with the former is, they
reject Africa and blackness, but their languages, cultures and foods are
mostly African.  AA's on the other hand don't know what African food is.
Soul food is not African.


author: wgodfrey

subject: Re: Letter to a Black Friend

text:
"Jason Murray - The Great One" <[email]> wrote in message
news:Paxub.30850$[email]...
truth
ghetto.
may
Brazilians,
relative
are
attitude

It is naive to imagine that after 400 plus years of major isolation, there
can be much similarity. As to AAs being the most "African" in attitude and
mind - you've got to be joking (as usual). Africa itself is diverse. The
elites in Africa that most of us Diasporans are likely to come into contact
with or even to communicate with have been heavily influenced by
Christianity or Islam. So, what exactly is "African"?


subject: Re: Letter to a Black Friend

text:
"wgodfrey" <[email]> wrote in message
news:pcHub.113368$[email]...
Americans
certainly
white
feel
contact

There you go, getting off topic.  When I say AA's are the most African in
the mind and attitude, I am speaking of the fact that we (in general) do not
mind being black or being seen as black.  We are even called
African-Americans.  Those in the Caribbean and Latin America, while being
the most African in language and culture, hate their blackness.  Tell a
Domincan or PR that they are black, and the hysterycally deny it.  Even if
they look like they just came from Africa.  They are the true sell-outs.


subject: Re: Letter to a Black Friend

text:
"Jason Murray - The Great One" <[email]> wrote in message
news:YQNub.31172$[email]...
ever;
We
AA's
they
are
is.
there
and
not

Well, as they say, if one drop of black blood makes you black in the US, one
drop of white blood should be able to male you white in the DR and Puerto
Rico.

LOL


author: Jorobillo Jiribilla

subject: Re: Letter to a Black Friend

text:
"Jason Murray - The Great One" <[email]> wrote in message
news:YQNub.31172$[email]...
ever;
We
AA's
they
are
is.
there
and
not

Are you implying that ALL Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and other
Hispanics are really black, even those with white skin (some even freckled),
straight hair (some even blond or red) and in some cases, even blue or green
eyes, Jason?


subject: Re: Letter to a Black Friend

text:
"wgodfrey" <[email]> wrote in message
news:mK0vb.68192$[email]...
one

I have not heard it said, but I have seen it practiced.  They just fail to
realize that white people don't see them as white.  Only the ones who are
very white in appearance and has no accent and sounds white and tries to
carry themselves as such.


subject: Re: Letter to a Black Friend

text:
"Jorobillo Jiribilla" <[email]> wrote in message
freckled),
green

Did I?  There are people in the US with those same descriptions and they are
called BLACK, so why not you people when you are certainly mixed with black.
You may have different colored eyes and LIGHT (not necessarily white) skin,
but you are not clear cut white as the US would make a claim for white in
their society, although it is changing because they are mixing at alarming
rates.

After all of these years, you people have to get it through your heads that
no one gives a shit if you have some combo of European features, your still
niggers.  Some middle easterners have the same characteristics, but does the
white man see them as a white man?  Do you see them trying to demand that
they be white?

So I am not implying anything.  I am telling you that is what it is, by US
standards.  If you were in South Africa, you would be colored.  In the
mid-east, you would have to call yourself and arab (no one could really
figure you out otherwise).  In your lands, you are white.  If you think your
are white, be that.  In this country, you are what the white says you are.
If HE as a white man says that you are not white, then who are you to argue?


subject: Re: Letter to a Black Friend

text:
"Jason Murray - The Great One" <[email]> wrote in message
news:4h5vb.26989$[email]...
Puerto

SO WHAT? People have a basic right to self-identify. What are you
complaining about? You have not travelled anywhere outside the US and you
want everyone to be just like Americans. This is cultural arrogance. Get
over it.


author: DF

subject: Re: Letter to a Black Friend

text:
And who was the smart and intelligent lady or gentleman who thought
that this white-black stuff of the west, will be relevant in
soc.culture.indian?

I mean, we do appreciate your kindness letting us know the latest news
in racist civil wars, but we are kind of pre-occupied with fighting
terrorists, communists and all other assorted bullshit you people
created, over the years.

So as much all this stuff is quite interesting, I doubt if people from
SCI will find the time to reply to racist wars of the west, when they
have to first sort out all the other *REAL* GLOBAL wars which you
people started in the first place....

Best of regards...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Jason Murray - The Great One" <[email]> wrote in message


author: Lisa Lai-ha Mak

subject: In defense of LISA WONG..........

text:
After reading some articles about Lisa Wong, I found some of you are
being kind of mean and harsh to her and really would like to say something
to defend her.

	Even though she is not a excellent singer, she indeed had a lot of
songs which becames classics, songs like "Man Shiu Chin San Chong Si Chain",
"The Brave Chinese", and "King Wah Cheun Mon", etc, are really well known
and unforgetable. Besides that she is a pretty decent MC and host in a
variety of shows, such as K-100.

	When I flipped over a "Ming Pao Weekly" of 1976 the other day, Lisa was
in one of the centerfold.  I have to admit that she was really beautiful at
that time.  That year was her peak year.  She was really popular and she had
starred a lot of popular shows, such as "The Legend of Book and Sword", "The
Legend of Sword and Dragon Knife".  People had mentioned that at those years
many girls had worn the same hairstyle as she had and tried to imitate her.
She was beloved by many people at those years.  Well, as time has passed,
she started to get old, people began to criticize her a lot.  It is really
unfair to her! People began to pay more attention to her personal life,
her relationship with Mr.X, Law Ka Yin, etc.

	Everyone gets old some day.  Don't forget Lisa Wong possesses some
skills that most idles don't have, such as managing a big big show in a
elegant and appropriate manner.  If we pay more attention to those subtle
skills, we would appreciate her more.  Lisa Wong is not over yet.

Lisa Mak
UIUC

P.S. Even though I am trying to defend Lisa from those unfair critics,
     I just cannot stop myself from laughing every time I think of her
     wearing the sexy custome and singing "HOT COFFEE"!!!!!!!!!  :)


author: KK SOO

subject: Re: In defense of LISA WONG..........

text:
[email] (Lisa Lai-ha Mak) writes:
:
: 	Everyone gets old some day.  Don't forget Lisa Wong possesses some
: skills that most idles don't have, such as managing a big big show in a
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I sort of laugh :) Hope that's just kidding :)
Anyway, I believe she's a good artist, as my aunty is not a liar, I think :)

: elegant and appropriate manner.  If we pay more attention to those subtle
: skills, we would appreciate her more.  Lisa Wong is not over yet.

Good idea, though I prefer Lee Mei Fung :)

Fred


author: Steve Wu

subject: Re: In defense of LISA WONG..........

text:
[email] (Lisa Lai-ha Mak) writes:

  Who said Lisa Wong is over? She is appointed representative of HK
district in People Congrass of PRC. She are involved in making
decition for the China and also HK someday. Lisa Wong is also a GREAT
artist who is almost-being-able-to-do-anything. She would be the
GREATEST star next century since by that time everyone would go to
Cantonese Opera. Also by that time, Cantonese Opera would be the only
offcial entertainment. All others are bad since those are from the
western.

  By the way, don't forget Mrs Mao--The wife of the GREATEST LEADER
Mao Tze Tong, was also a third-rank star. Oh I am not implied Lisa
was/is/will be a third-rank star. So STOP insulting our Aunt Lisa (you
know I really like her. I watched her since I was four, by that time
she was 18 years old. And now, I was almost thirty and the last time I
watch her show, she was still an 18-year-old-like girl. Isn't it
cute?).

  steve


author: Wing Keung F Au

subject: Re: In defense of LISA WONG..........

text:
In article <stevew.703259463@helios> [email] (Steve Wu) writes:

BTW, don't forget the greatest of them all, ronald reagan!!!

ops, down with king george though.


author: tuna

subject: Tie^`n o+i , ma`y ddi dda^u ??

text:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/elin_out_W07SNZrfTIAsi5zvvRmH7O

Nho+` mu. maddam Bi`nh ddo^.i blond wigs ddi claim tie^`n cu?a anh
Woods

ha ahahha

tuna,


author: Madame Bình

subject: Re: Tie^`n o+i , ma`y ddi dda^u ?? Ddi De^m Ma^`u Ho^`ng :)

text:
Dda.i loa.i la` dda`n ba` khi tha^'y cho^`ng mi`nh ddi a(~m ca'i mo^ng
to kha'c thi` gia^.n do^~i
va` ddoa`i bo?a nhoa` ra ddi vi` thie^'u ti`nh thie^'u ho*i Duo*ng

Nhu*ng chi. Elina na`y bo? Tiger la` pha?i vi` Tiger cu*' ddi to*'i
co^~ na`o la` va'c golf stick
ro^`i treo 10 nga`n ddo^`ng va`o ca^y ga^.y ra ngoa'y
 thi` ca'c em  Hotel de lair na`o cu~ng khoa'i bi. a(n ca('p Pwd ma`
co`n dduo*'c suo*'ng ca'i mo^ng ho^`ng mo^ng ti'm le^n to*'i 9 ta^`ng
ma^y :))))))))))


text:
On Dec 16, 3:02 pm, Madame Bình <[email]> wrote:

Mo+`i Madam to+'i tha`nh Ho^` gio+.t golf (Ma(.c wa^`n dden cho' ta'p
2 kho^ng to+'i sau ca'ch ma.ng pho?ng gia'i mie^`n nam)
Xem ca'i cho^~ ddu+'ng be' ti' teo . Kho^ng co' save ti' na`o ca?
Em na`o qua.t tha(?ng tay thi` ngu+o+`i ddu+'ng sau co' the^? ... bay
ca'i "ma(.t" nhu+ cho+i (no joke)

http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/p/m/93cc5/

tuna,