subject: Re: Fys's $199 Linux 1.3 Box

text:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2002 17:54:41 -0800, The Real Bev
<[email]> wrote:

That's the game they play - the customer is the quality assurance
person. Fry's is a 1-1/2 hour round trip, so driving back is a pain
for me.

Since 1997 I've been buying everything online - thousands of dollars
worth by now. I've bought tons of cards for my business and have never
had to return a single item. A few moments at the computer, and the
UPS guy is in my driveway (often) the next day with a laser printer,
etc. at the lowest price. Fry's is good for cables, connectors,
switchboxes, etc. - low tech, inexpensive doodads.

They do it constantly. You say you want 128 MB of PC100 memory since
you saw it in the Friday paper for $22. They pull up the memory on
their terminal and it's suddenly $39.95 for a lifetime warranty top
quality version. You hold your ground, and the person tells you that
the sale item is a low quality OEM type with just a 90 day warranty.
Sure enough, you get it home, and it's DOA. Back to Fry's for another
roll of the dice. They do a lot of bait and switch.

Ugh!

They're just coming up with this Linux stuff in their ads to appear
up-to-date and high tech.


author: Steve

subject: Re: Fys's $199 Linux 1.3 Box

text:
On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 02:13:41 GMT, James Duncan <[email]>
wrote:

Wow, Dejavu.

That has so happened to me.

I never thought that any computer store could be worse that Crap USA,
but Fry's has beaten them hands down for the honor as the sh*tiest,
dirtiest and most dishonest computer store.  Way to go Fry's.

Steve


author: Steve Wolfe

subject: Re: Fys's $199 Linux 1.3 Box

text:
Take an inverter, so you can boot it up and try it in the car!

steve


author: The Real Bev

subject: Re: Fys's $199 Linux 1.3 Box

text:
James Duncan wrote:

As a former QA puke (my company decided it was cheaper to eliminate the QA
Department and offer a liberal replacement policy than to improve the
product), I think I can safely say that one method is as good as another as
long as it works!  Yeah, driving back is a pain, but if a 2-hour trip yields
$200 in savings, I can't really whine too loudly.  Besides, I'm a SoCalian and
we LOVE driving.

No, that's what swap meets are good for.  $8 at CompUSA, $6 at Fry's, $1 at
the ACP swap meet.  Even cheaper than that are yard sales, but you aren't
guaranteed to get what you need when you need it.  Buying on-line is fine when
it's cheaper than faster methods.

There was a long thread in another group maybe a year back about Fry's memory,
the conclusion being that the cheap stuff was flakey and that sensible people
buy the guaranteed stuff.  The warrantless condition of the cheap stuff didn't
seem to be a secret.

What, you don't like Alice in Wonderland or the day the Martians landed?  What
a poop!  Even my mom likes the buildings.

Several stores were pushing it for a while, but I guess the trend petered
out.  Fry's does cater to a more geekish audience than CompUSA, you know.  At
least they don't have signs up offering to install your winshit software for
$25.


subject: Re: Fys's $199 Linux 1.3 Box

text:
Steve Wolfe wrote:

Probably "some assembly required."  OTOH, doesn't everybody carry a really
good toolkit in the car?

We bought an inverter so we could plug the Zenith laptop in and run it off an
acoustic modem at a phone booth.  Never did it, but we could have.


author: Steve Martin

subject: Inverters

text:
The Real Bev wrote:

Take care when running a laptop (or any computer, for that matter)
off an inverter. The cheaper inverters do a lousy job of filtering
the output waveform, so instead of a nice clean sine wave, you get
what basically amounts to a slightly filtered stairstep / triangle
waveform or (in really bad cases) a slightly filtered square wave,
both of which contain trash that can damage a computer.


author: RusH

subject: Re: Inverters

text:
begin  Steve Martin  napďż˝odziďż˝(a):

thats why you must ALWAYS use UPS in that situation

Pozdrawiam.


author: Allodoxaphobia

subject: Re: Inverters

text:
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:28:41 +0000 (UTC), RusH scribbled:

Better: Simpler: Lighter: Use a (suitable wattage) isolation
transformer.  The trip thru the xformer helps cleanup the
waveform.

Jonesy


author: qIroS

subject: Re: Inverters

text:
ghItlh RusH <[email]>

An active ups at that. most cheap ups are passive.


author: [redacted]

subject: Re: Inverters

text:
RusH <[email]> writes:

Ah.  So you should carry around a 30lb UPS in order to use your
laptop.  Good suggestion there.


subject: Re: Inverters

text:
begin    napďż˝odziďż˝(a):

hmm the idea was to plug laptop with inverter to your cars acumulator,
i assume that you are carrying your 1.5 Tons car with you too :)

Pozdrawiam.


author: Scott Gregory Flicker

subject: Re: 3-D Games causing SeaSickness?

text:
In article <[email]> [email] (Steve A. Feinstein) writes:
I've felt somewhat dizzy after playing microsoft flight simulator and falcon3.0.
Maybe and little nauseous its kind of like I start to feel like I'm actually
during loops and doing nosedives ...


author: Mark Tsombakos

subject: Re: 3-D Games causing SeaSickness?

text:
Oh, thank god I found this thread.  I downloaded the game, and found it
incredibly addicting.  I also thought I was coming down with the flu!!
It didn't take long to make the correlation.......

Mark


author: John Locke

subject: Re: 3-D Games causing SeaSickness?

text:
[email] (Scott Gregory Flicker) writes:

# I've felt somewhat dizzy after playing microsoft flight simulator
# and falcon3.0.

I frequently vomit while using MS-DOS. And it's one-dimensional.

John


author: Mike Hore

subject: Mops 4.0.1 thoughts

text:
Hi folks,

I'm thinking I should do a bugfix release just to roll in the
bugfixes and make things easier for newcomers.

But there are a couple of other issues I'd like to deal with:

1.  We need a ReferenceList class, to parallel HandleList -- to
make it easy to create lists of heap-based objects which will
participate in garbage collection.

2.  There's a design issue relating to temp objects.  This may
not actually affect anybody, but it's a potential problem which
I should fix.  When a definition with temp objects exits, we
send release: to all the temp objects, and do release> on any
references.  BUT if one of the temp objects is a complex class
with its own ivars including references, release> WON'T get
called on those references!

What I really should do is write a general "destructor" word
which does the exact opposite of make_obj.  Thus it would
recursively go through all ivars and all THEIR ivars etc.
and send release: to all objects and call release> on all
references.

I should call this word when temp objects and heap objects
are deleted.  The result of this would be that whereas the
"proper" practice has always been that if your object gets
a release: it should call release: on any ivars which need
it, this won't actually be necessary any more.  In fact if
you're doing it, the ivars might get release: more than once.

This theoretically shouldn't matter.  But you know what they
say about theory and practice -- in theory, the theory should
work out in practice.  In practice, it usually doesn't.

So maybe this might affect someone.  That's why I'm throwing
it out for discussion now.  I think in the long run this
will improve the system, but in the process I don't want to
break anyone's code.

Please jump in and let us know what you think.  If nobody does,
I'll just go ahead and do the revision anyway  ;-)

Cheers,  Mike

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             Mike Hore        [email]
----------------------------------------------------------------


author: Doug Hoffman

subject: Re: Mops 4.0.1 thoughts

text:
Mike,

All of my classes are constructed such that release: will always
do a release: on any ivars that need it, and those ivars will
call release and so on.

However, if you think the general destructor mechanism is
superior, and it sounds like it is, then go ahead and do it.
If I need to, I can always update my classes.  Part of the
beauty of OOP is I know right where to look in my old code
to check for this sort of thing.

-Doug

In article <[email]> Mike Hore,
[email] writes:
[snip]


subject: Re: Mops 4.0.1 thoughts

text:
Doug Hoffman wrote:

Well actually, I've just changed my mind!!  If I go down the
general destructor road, the destructor word would have to
send late-bound release: to everything.  This would impact
performance too much, IMHO.

At present, at the end of a definition containing temp objects,
we compile an early-bound release: to all the objects, and do
this straight in line.  If the objects are simple objects like
Var or Float, no code is actually generated for this.

But I should fix the potential reference problem, so I will
write a destructor word for references that goes recursively
through all the references in an object and calls release>
on them.  This is a straight call, not a late bind, so there
shouldn't be any great problem with performance.

This destructor word will thus only be for references, not
objects.  I'll actually be able to do it with an enhancement
to do_to_refs (in file References), which already almost
does what we want, so it should be easy enough.

Cheers,  Mike.

----------------------------------------------------------------
             Mike Hore        [email]
----------------------------------------------------------------


author: Tim Underwood

subject: Re: Memory - RAM is more always better - a question ?

text:
[email] (Daniel Kevin Dannells) wrote:

PCMag had another review of the same nature sometime around Sep/Oct
'95 (I believe).  They did a review with Win 3.1/WFW/Win95/NT 3.51 and
tested the effects of adding memory to each platform.

In all cases, more memory helped, up to about 16-20MB.  The only OS
that showed a dramatic improvement going from 16 to 32MB was Win95.
NT showed only a slight gain in improvement.


author: LDC

subject: help!

text:
Hello, I have a tab strip, and on each tab there is a webbrowser with it's
indevidual set of controls (back, forwad, stop, etc...). How can I make all
the browsers use the same single set of controls to make this thing more
efficient?

Thanks


author: Max Healey

subject: Re: help!

text:
Do something like this
Private Sub cmdBack_Click
if tabstrip1.tabs(1).selected = true then
        webBrowser(1).back
end if
end sub

"LDC" <[email]> wrote in message
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all


subject: Re: help!

text:
Yes it worked! Thanx a LOT!!!!!!!!!!
"Max Healey" <[email]> wrote in message
news:SspO6.1505$[email]...
it's


author: Brigitte MARCHISET

subject: Terminal X on a Sparc station

text:
I would like to connect a Sun 3/50 station as a terminal X
on a SUN Sparc station.

  Who can help me ?

  Thanks in advance.

Brigitte


author: Damon Beals

subject: Re: Terminal X on a Sparc station

text:
In article <[email]>, [email] (Brigitte MARCHISET) writes:

   I hope I can.  We are doing the exact same thing and It works
great.  Get the Xkernel package from seth robertson.  ftp it from
sol.ctr.columbia.edu in the /Xkernel dir.  The docs tell you all you
need to know.  I just set another Xterm3/50 up today.


author: der Mouse

subject: Re: Terminal X on a Sparc station

text:
In article <[email]>, [email] (Brigitte MARCHISET) writes:

We have several -3/50s and -3/60s set up this way.  The trick is to run
a full-fledged (though as stripped down as possible) SunOS kernel, but
replace /etc/init (/sbin/init if you have to use a recent version of
SunOS, I think) with a shell script that sets up a couple of things and
runs the X server with the appropriate options.  You need very little
in the X terminal's root this way; ours run SunOS 3.5 and the root
areas are only 3500 disk sectors (1.75Mb) each.  (They still need
reasonable swap areas; we're using a little under 10Mb (20000 sectors)
of swap each.)

I'll be glad to mail the init script we use to anyone interested.

					der Mouse

			    [email]


author: Daniel Jack McCoy

subject: Re: Terminal X on a Sparc station

text:
In article [email], [email] (Brigitte MARCHISET) writes:
|>
|>  I would like to connect a Sun 3/50 station as a terminal X
|>on a SUN Sparc station.
|>
|>  Who can help me ?

This is the way I did it:
Assuming the 3/50 is named sun3 and the Sparc is names sparc, I would
add the following line to my /etc/rc.local file on sun3:
	/usr/bin/X11/X -query sparc &
You can also start this by hand.
Add the following line to my /etc/rc.local on sparc:
	/usr/bin/X11/xdm/xdm
This also can be started by hand.
Add the following line to my /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers
	sun3:0 SUN3 foreign
This, I think, is the bare minimum.

---
Daniel J. McCoy                      Loral Space Information Systems
NASA Mail Code PT4              TEL: (713)483-0950
NASA/Johnson Space Center   FAX: (713)244-5698
Houston, Texas 77058           [email]


subject: Bookmanager setup

text:
I recently got hold of a Redbook in .BOO format. So I dug out an old
copy of the Technical Connection CDs and installed the reader. However,
even though I have the directory in which the file is located in the
SET BOOKMGR=
SET READIBM=

environment variables, the new .BOO file does not show up. Can anyone
tell me how I can add it to the available books? I assume that I have
to create a .BKS file with details, but I can't find any information on
the format of the bookshelf files, or any mention of an automated way
to create them.

paul.


author: paul marwick

subject: Re: Bookmanager setup

text:
In article <[email]>,
Darryl Sperber <[email]> wrote:

:) The copy I have works, but it is pretty ancient.

Thanks. Tried a bit earlier, but didn't get a connection to the site.
I'll try again later... Don't know why, but neither Wget of Ncftp
seemed able to connect. No errors or timeout, just sat there until I
killed the process.

:) I hope its installer is a little smarter than the old one - I had to
tell it to modify CONFIG.SYS on C: (which is _not_ my OS/2 boot drive)
to get it to produce the Bookmanager environment settings for me.

Hmm. The old install put in a slightly different version:

SET BOOKMGR=.;J:\BOOKS;J:\SHELVES;G:\USR\BOOKS;
SET READIBM=.;J:\BOOKS;J:\SHELVES;G:\USR\BOOKS;

Looks as though it will check the current directory as well...

Ok. I wasn't sure that it needed the seperate directorie, but I can do
that easily enough

Great, that is exactly what I needed. Set it up and it works with the
ancient copy of the reader that I currently have. Thanks a lot for
that.

Tried that. I'm not sure I'd want to do that again (though I may try it
without the CD in next time). It locked me out of the system for the
best part of a couple of minutes while it started the CD and read it.
Couldn't do anything else while it was reading - it completely blocked
the desktop..

Many thanks Darryl. It now works and I can read the Redbook. I'll grab
the new reader later and see what changes there are in it.  Thanks
again.

paul.


subject: Re: Bookmanager setup

text:
In article <[email]>,
Darryl Sperber <[email]> wrote:

Yep. I managed to get in and get the package the next time I logged
into my ISP. Either it was out of action for a few hours or there was
something broken in the routing. Got it now, thanks.

:) Sorry, badly explained. E: is my normal OS/2 boot drive. When I told
the installer that, it failed to modify the CONFIG.SYS in that
partition (though it did back it up, which was interesting). However,
when I told it C:, it did modify the CONIFG.SYS it found there (a
vestigial one for a copy of Win95 that hasn't been run in months.

Yeah. I was just a bit suprised that it was so badly behaved - while
loading data from the CD, it completely locked me out of the desktop.
There aren't very many OS/2 apps that are quite that single-minded...

Yes, and I'll know how to add any future ones as well.

Does that include all of the Redbooks? I have hard copy of some of
them, but they used to be quite hard to buy from IBM Australia.

Thanks, I'll take a look. Though I must admit that I really don't much
like PDF format stuff - I'd rather have them in INF or Bookmanager
format - I find either much more effective for on-screen use.

paul.


author: Darryl Sperber

subject: Re: Bookmanager setup

text:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 23:06:15 +0000, [email] wrote:

(1)  I don't know about the usability of Library Reader/2 on the Technical
Connection CDs, but I've uploaded a zip of a very recent (9/29/00) version
from the x:\ILROS2 directory on a recent OS/390 Collection Online Library.

Download it from:

	ftp://ftp.airmail.net/incoming/LREADER2.ZIP

into a directory (e.g. x:\ILROS2), unzip it, and run INSTALL.EXE.

(2)  I have the following in my config.sys:

	REM IBM Online CD-ROM Book Library Reader/2
	SET READIBM=H:\SHELVES;H:\BOOKS
	SET BOOKMGR=H:\SHELVES;H:\BOOKS

You'll need to create two directories on your hard drive... SHELVES and
BOOKS.  Naturally, your BOO file goes in BOOKS, and a BKS file goes in
SHELVES.

(3)  I did exactly what you want to do, for a BOO version of the MRFILEPM
documentation.  I also copied a number of OS/390 books and shelves to my hard
drive so that I wouldn't need to insert the CDs when I wanted to look up
something.  Also, I was able to consolidate all the documents I generally
refer to in one place, instead of on 10 CDs.

So, I placed my MRFILEPM.BOO file in H:\BOOKS.  I also copied all of the
various BOO books I wanted convenient hard drive access to, from my OS/390
CDs (BOOKS directory).

Then I created a file called USERDOCS.BKS and placed it in H:\SHELVES.  Its
content is as follows:

	BKSHELF=USERDOCS
	BKSTITLE=IBM User Program Documentation
	BKSDATETIME=11/10/00 10:48:33
	BKSINDEX=
	BKIDATETIME=
	BKSLEXIS=
	BKIBOOKS=0

	SHMRFILEPM
	ST  Mr. File/PM: A Simple, Configurable OS/2 File Manager (4.4)
	BKNAME=MRFILEPM
	BKDATETIME=04/07/93 08:27:34
	BKFLAG=I

I also copied the relevant BKS shelves from my OS/390 CDs (SHELVES
directory).  I did NOT do any editing on the content of these BKS files, even
though I might not have copied 100% of the named BOO files.  I simply expect
never to try and read a book I didn't copy (because I'm not interested in its
information), or if I do accidentally mistakenly open a missing book I'll
just get an error message.

(4)  Note that in my case, I don't need to access my CD documentation any
more, which is why I removed the L:\SHELVES;L:\BOOKS items from my config.sys
references.

But theoretically, if you wanted to be able to read both CD documentation as
well as hard drive documentation, you should have a complete path specified
which names both locations.

(5)  I believe that even if the BKS shelf doesn't display (for some reason)
in the main window when you open Library Leader/2, if you click on VIEW ->
ALL then the BOO files themselves will appear as well as any shelves.  That's
a sure-fire way to get to your document.

Hope this helps.  Let me know if you have problems with what I've suggested,
or more questions once you get going.


subject: Re: Bookmanager setup

text:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:40:43 +0000, [email] (paul marwick)
wrote:

The server's up and operational, as is the above file.

The location is (1) all-hidden, so you won't be able to browse any directory,
and (2) case-sensitive, so you must double-click/open the above URL exactly
as I've coded it above.

I just tried it myself and it works fine.

Huh?  How is your config.sys for OS/2 not on your OS/2 boot drive?

Well the CD probably had hundreds of books on it.  That's exactly the reason
for the bookshelves way of browsing groups of books.  VIEW -> ALL is simply
something that works, not necessarily something you actually want to do.

But if you've now gotten your homegrown bookshelf working, pointing to your
Redbook, then you don't need the ALL workaround.

Incidentally, IBM's got its Redbooks available online:

	http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/

They're available in HTML or PDF format through this portal.
Interestingly, I can't find a main entrance for OS/2 stuff.  But if you
search for "OS/2" you'll find a bunch.


author: Gavin

subject: Problems installing an additional CPU.

text:
I have having problems install an additional CPU in to an RS6000/7025 F40.

The new processor is the same type and model as the existing processor and
the firmware is above the recommended level.

The server boots after installing the processor but it is not visible at the
firmware or OS level.

Any ideas?

TIA

Gavin


author: Rob Kouwenberg

subject: Re: Problems installing an additional CPU.

text:
Gavin <[email]> wrote:

cfgmgr
bosboot -a
shutdown -Fr


author: Urban A. Haas

text:
"Gavin" <[email]> wrote in message
news:abtqvs$ju8$[email]...
the

Are you going from uni to multi-processor? If so, have you installed bos.mp?
Is your firmware current? Have you gone over the limit of number of
processors supported by the F40?

Urban


author: Hans-Joachim Ehlers

text:
Hi Gavin,
"Gavin" <[email]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:abtqvs$ju8$[email]...
the

Where is your "/unix " linked to ?

Hajo


author: Don Davis

text:
Gavin wrote:

check the Service Processor as well as the firmware

if you are moving from a 1 way to a 2 way make sure
you have   bos.mp   vs   bos.up


text:
Yes, from uniprocessor to dual processor.

bos.mp installed.

"Urban A. Haas" <[email]> wrote in message
news:3ce288f3$[email]...
F40.
and
bos.mp?


text:
One fileset which does appear to be missing compared to other mutli/single
processor systems is xlC.cpp.

Is this required?

"Urban A. Haas" <[email]> wrote in message
news:3ce288f3$[email]...
F40.
and
bos.mp?


text:
/unix is linked to /usr/lib/boot/unix_mp

"Hans-Joachim Ehlers" <[email]> wrote in message
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F40.
and


text:
Hi Gavin
"Gavin" <[email]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:abvnf1$q8h$[email]...

<snip>
What does a "lscfg" display ? .
Can you see "proc0" and "proc1" ?
Anything noticeable in "errpt" ?
If not i would think that you have a hardware problem.
Maybe a good idea to start "diag"

Hajo


author: Wilbur Streett

subject: Re: New 3D Rendering Method

text:
[email] (Jonathan Gibbs) wrote:

I guess you don't get the point.  I'll try again.

Algorithms are Academic.  Software is what runs Computers.  Looking up
Algorithms isn't very hard, writing software that works is much harder.  If
you believe that Computer Scientist's are what make computers work, then
you need to spend a couple of years trying to implement what a "Computer
Scientist" has spec'd out.  Computer Scientist's have produced some of the
greatest disasters that I've ever had the pleasure to straighten out.
Computer Scientists can talk about Computing, those that write software
actually make it happen.  Just because someone has a reputation doesn't
mean that he can actually deliver a working system.  Most of the guys that
I know that actually can write an impressive piece of software aren't
"Computer Scientists", they don't bother with trying to puff up their
position with a title, they are way too busy writing softwre.

Computer Scientist's worry about how pretty the algorithm is, most of
programming has very little to do with how pretty the algorithm is and much
more to do with much more mundane and real world issues, like hwo to break
the algorithm's so that you get decent performance, or how the
implementation of an algorithm is contrained by the realities of system
resources, and working with other people.

You can pretend that Computer Science is where the work is done.  I
disagree.

Wilbur


author: Joe Ragosta

subject: Re: By end of 1998, PowerPC will be obsolete.

text:
In article <[email]>,
[email] (Dave Nebinger) wrote:

Wrong. The PC-centrics don't believe it _even when_ a third party does the
test. Look at the Ingram tests or Bytemarks. The PC centric crowd insists
that Apple bought them off. Heck, I posted the URL of a Westinghouse study
where the Mac was shown to have twice the productivity of the Wintel
machines and someone made the accusation that Apple bought Westinghouse
off!!!!


author: Patrick Timlin

subject: 333Mhz iMac can use 256MB SoDIMMs!

text:
Hi everyone,

More to simply add it to the usenet archives for future searchers, as
I couldn't find this info specifically when I looked...

I have an iMac 333Mhz (aka 5-color, USB only, tray load CD) which had
the original 32MB DIMM on the bottom slot and a 64MB DIMM in the top
slot. I recently bought a new 60GB hard drive I am planning on putting
it and thought I might take advantage of ripping open the machine to
up the memory. The plan is to get a 256MB DIMM, put it in the top
slot, and then taking the 64MB module that was there and moving it to
the bottom slot (replacing the 32MB DIMM) while I am in there anyway
ripping out the old 6GB hard drive.

Only problem is most specs on this machine state a max of 256MB total
with 128MB in each slot, basically due to the fact that only 128MB
DIMMs were available at the time that came in the low profile needed
to go in the lower slot. So I bit the bullet anyway and bought a 256MB
SoDIMM (144 pin) for $65 from www.datamem.com. It arrived in a couple
days.

So I haven't had a chance to do the full upgrade where I have to pull
everything apart to remove the old hard drive and move the 64MB to the
bottom, but I did go ahead and did the 7 minute quick upgrade of
simply pulling out the guts (three screws total), pulling out the 64MB
DIMM and putting in the 256MB DIMM (giving me a temperary 288MB of
memory).

Well I am happy to report it works great. "About this System" (apple
menu) reports 288MB and doing the System Profiler (also apple menu) it
shows the 32MB in the bottom and the 256MB in the top. So anyone
thinking of putting a 256MB, 144-pin, SoDIMM, into the top slot of
their (333Mhz or less iMac), go for it! It works great!!!

Patrick


author: Terry Younkin

subject: Re: 333Mhz iMac can use 256MB SoDIMMs!

text:
In article <[email]>,
[email] (Patrick Timlin) wrote:

****snip

You shouldn't have any problem.  My Rev. B iMac is running 384MB RAM.  I
think it's enough.  I've had zero problems.  In fact it speeded it up
some.


author: MikeE

subject: Dial-up / Dial-In Linux Server to Windows Network for Mobile Users

text:
Hey everyone,  Thanks for reading my note.

Odd question:

I have several mobile users with notebook PCs who do not have internet
access at home.  I was asked about locating an ISP that is available
for our area where we could have a single Dial-up account bill for
these users.  We have a web based application where they need to sync
their data with a company that is hosting our data.

What I was wondering is this:  Is it possible to create a Dial-up
Linux Server which would be connected to our LAN and then have the
mobile machine use our LAN's internet connection (cable) to access the
web (just like it would for a Dial-up ISP) to sync the data?  I would
have no more than 2  users connected at a single time.

If this is possible, could someone point me to a HowTo or a good
document to assist me?  I located a document "ISP-Server Setup -
Ubuntu 5.10" ( http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10 ).
But it seems to be overkill for what I need and I am not familiar
enough to know what services I could do without and what I actually
need.

Any advice appreciated -

Mike


author: [redacted]

subject:
Re: Dial-up / Dial-In Linux Server to Windows Network for Mobile
 Users

text:
MikeE wrote:
Yes, this is very do-able.
This link should handle what you want.
http://www.dcaccess.net/welcome/linux/PPP-HOWTO.html#toc19
It has been a long time but I used to be a network admin at an ISP.
I might just remember enough to answer any more questions you might have. ;)


subject: Re: Dial-up / Dial-In Linux Server to Windows Network for Mobile Users

text:
On May 24, 11:32 am, [email] wrote:

Thanks for the link. I've been tied up with desktop machine installs
and I'm just now getting back to looking into this.  Thanks again for
the link!

Mike


text:
*blech*
Ignore the anchor. The link should simply be
http://www.dcaccess.net/welcome/linux/PPP-HOWTO.html


author: Dude

subject: Agfa SNAPSCAN 1212U problems

text:
The scanner is connected via the USB cable to my XP-based computer.  Other
USB devices work ok and in 'Scanners and Cameras' the scanner is reported as
being 'Ready'.  The test button can bring back a 'success' message but it
will then report the opposite.

I have installed ScanWise 2 but when I run the software, although it can
detect the scanner, I get an error message stating that there is a hardware
problem.

Although the scanner is not locked for transit, it makes a juddering noise
for a while as if it is trying to move the scan head - but it does not.
The scan light is on at first but eventually goes off.

Can anyone help with this problem ?

Also, is there any way to get the scanner in the 'Scanners' section in 'My
Computer' rather than having to do it the ScanWise way ?

Thanks

Dude


author: Arnt Kr. Sviland

subject: Re: Agfa SNAPSCAN 1212U problems

text:
Hi,
I'm using the Agfa Snapscan 1212U with ScanWise 2.0 and Windows 98. I
have not experienced any problems with that setup. However some months
ago I started using VueScan instead which I found gave me more
flexibility and better scan quality. I think you can download a trial
version, so why don't you try that instead ? Registering this software
would cost you $40,- but it's more than worth it.

http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html

Have you tried re-installing Scanwise 2.0 ensuring that you don't have
any interfering software running in the background ?

Regards,
Arnt

On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:27:36 +0100, "Dude" <[email]> wrote:


subject: Re: Agfa SNAPSCAN 1212U problems

text:
"Arnt Kr. Sviland" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Thanks but I don't think that this is going to help me, although I did got
to the site.  The printer is not supported and I think that I may have a
mechanical fault.

Other
as
hardware
noise
'My


subject: mail

text:
Dear all,

Sorry that I am disturbing you all again and again but this is the way I
am trying to solve my problem:---

...     values = re.split("\s+", line)
...     if exp.search(line):
...        print ("%s %s CA = %s" %(values[2], values[3], values[6]))
...
 with this it is giving the output like:----

8 ALA CA = 54.67
15 ALA CA = 52.18
21 ALA CA = 54.33
23 ALA CA = 55.84
33 ALA CA = 55.58
38 ALA CA = 54.33

which is all right but i want CB and C value also in each row and it
should take value from 5th column infront of them, file is something
lookin like:-----

 47     8   ALA       H     H      7.85     0.02     1
 48     8   ALA       HA    H      2.98     0.02     1
 49     8   ALA       HB    H      1.05     0.02     1
 50     8   ALA       C     C    179.39      0.3     1
 51     8   ALA       CA    C     54.67      0.3     1
 52     8   ALA       CB    C     18.85      0.3     1
 53     8   ALA       N     N    123.95      0.3     1
107    15   ALA       H     H      8.05     0.02     1
108    15   ALA       HA    H      4.52     0.02     1
109    15   ALA       HB    H      1.29     0.02     1
110    15   ALA       C     C    177.18      0.3     1
111    15   ALA       CA    C     52.18      0.3     1
112    15   ALA       CB    C     20.64      0.3     1
113    15   ALA       N     N    119.31      0.3     1
154    21   ALA       H     H      7.66     0.02     1
155    21   ALA       HA    H      4.05     0.02     1
156    21   ALA       HB    H      1.39     0.02     1
157    21   ALA       C     C    179.35      0.3     1
158    21   ALA       CA    C     54.33      0.3     1
159    21   ALA       CB    C     17.87      0.3     1
160    21   ALA       N     N    123.58      0.3     1
169    23   ALA       H     H      8.78     0.02     1
170    23   ALA       HA    H      4.14     0.02     1
171    23   ALA       HB    H      1.62     0.02     1
172    23   ALA       C     C    179.93      0.3     1
173    23   ALA       CA    C     55.84      0.3     1
174    23   ALA       CB    C     17.55      0.3     1
175    23   ALA       N     N    120.16      0.3     1
232    33   ALA       H     H      7.57     0.02     1
233    33   ALA       HA    H      3.89     0.02     1
234    33   ALA       HB    H      1.78     0.02     1
235    33   ALA       C     C    179.24      0.3     1
236    33   ALA       CA    C     55.58      0.3     1
237    33   ALA       CB    C     19.75      0.3     1
238    33   ALA       N     N    121.52      0.3     1
269    38   ALA       H     H      8.29     0.02     1
270    38   ALA       HA    H      4.04     0.02     1
271    38   ALA       HB    H      1.35     0.02     1
272    38   ALA       C     C    178.95      0.3     1
273    38   ALA       CA    C     54.33      0.3     1
274    38   ALA       CB    C     18.30      0.3     1
275    38   ALA       N     N    120.62      0.3     1

I just want that it will give output something like:-----

8  ALA  C = 179.39  CA = 54.67  CB = 18.85
15 ALA  C = 177.18  CA = 52.18  CB = 20.64
21 ALA  C = 179.35  CA = 54.33  CB = 17.87.....

so first it will write the position of the amino acid(given by second
column)then amino acid here it is ALA and then the corresponding value of
C, CA and CB from 5th colum for each position of ALA.

Amrita Kumari
Research Fellow
IISER Mohali
Chandigarh
INDIA


author: Grant Edwards

subject: Re: mail

text:
On 2009-07-15, [email] <[email]> wrote:

We could probably be a lot more helpful if you would keep these
postings all in a single thread so that people who didn't read
the first postings knew what you were talking about in
subsequent postings.

[...]

IMO you're making a mistake using the "re" module for this
task.  I think you'd be a lot better off if you just used the
string type's split method to split each line up into fields
and processed the individual fields:

  for line in inputfile:

      field = line.split()

      if field[2] == "CA":
         <<do whatever with whichever fields you care about>>
      elif field[2] == "soemthing-else"
         <<do something else with some other fields>>

  <<print results of doing whatever and something else above>>


author: koranthala

subject: Re: mail

text:
On Jul 15, 11:46 pm, [email] wrote:

Hi,
   Can you try using the code which I suggested in the earlier thread?
   If you cannot use it to get the output, just point it out here, and
I will try to solve the issue.


author: Benjamin Carlisle

subject: troll?

text: I haven't been here long - what does it mean to be a troll or a wintroll?


author: Elana Kehoe

subject: Re: troll?

text:
Benjamin Carlisle <[email]> wrote:

A troll is someone who writes something inflammatory to create a yelling
match basically.

A wintroll is someone who walks in here saying "Apples suck, Windows
rulz"...just to get a debate started.

They get their kicks by seeing people mad at them, the sick f***s.

My $.02.

E


author: Patrick James

subject: Re: troll?

text:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 22:26:39 +0100, Elana Kehoe wrote
(in message <[email]>):

The best thing to do of course is to simply ignore them. Indeed when you
see a "troll" just kill-file them (which is to create a filter in your
newsreader to delete their messages automatically).


subject: Re: troll?

text:
ok, thanks
Elana Kehoe <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
wintroll?


author: Martin Sammtleben

subject: Re: troll?

text:
In article <[email]>, Patrick James
<[email]> wrote:

Hi Patrick,

what newsreaders do have filtering capabilities (besides MS products)?

I use Nortstad's original 2.2.2 NewsWatcher, no filters here ;-)

Cheers   Martin

----------------------------------
to respond by e-mail remove"_trash"


subject: Re: troll?

text:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:06:08 +0100, Martin Sammtleben wrote
(in message <martin_trash-0907012206360001@192.168.1.100>):

Hi

There's a good range of Newsreaders for the Mac fortunately and you will
be able to download them from here:

<http://www.newsreaders.com/index.html>

Some are free and some want payment, but you can demo them all which is
the best thing. To my knowledge all of the stand-alone newsreaders have
the abilities to set "Kill-files".

The one I use is actually the most expensive, it is called "Hogwasher".
This will "Kill-file" of course and it will do a great deal more besides.
There is a free demo of Hogwasher and if you want to try it out I suggest
using it for the full duration of the demo as it is very full featured
indeed and it takes some time to get to know the whole program.

Hogwasher comes from here:

<http://www.asar.com/>

Best of luck :)


subject: Re: troll?

text:
Martin Sammtleben <[email]> wrote:

I'm using MacSoup (www.macsoup.de), with a very full killfile :-).  It
takes a little bit to get used to, but it's a great program.

E


author: Andrew Heltzel

subject: ATTN: KDE Experts

text:
Is it possible to specify which desktop a program will run on from the
command line?

Example:     kppp -c Earthlink [DESKTOP 4]

I'm asking this because I'm trying to write a script that runs on startup.

Any help is much appreciated.

Andrew


author: Steve Bradley

subject: Re: ATTN: KDE Experts

text:
Andrew Heltzel wrote:

Andrew,
        As far as I know, it is not.  It would probably cause problems if you
specified a desktop that didn't exist (you specify 4, but the user has a
max of 2 selected..)

        You might want to try posting the question to comp.windows.x.kde though -
you may get other opinions.


author: Phil

subject: Re: ATTN: KDE Experts

text:
Now, youre not referring to:

{
  from the console... type> startx kde ...or... gnome, kde2, openlook etc.
 }

because if thats the deal, then its that simple!


author: Scott Johnson

subject: Internal consistency error in Foxpro

text:
I have a problem with a database application I wrote. When I execute some
stuff to access several databases, I get the above mentioned error.  I was
told a way to fix this is to do a dos copy of the database to another file and
then copy it back using Foxpro.  I tried it last night and was not able to
verify that it worked.  I ended up doing a dos copy on the file, then an
append from the temporary file to the current file.  The current file was the
original file.  Did I do this right?

Thanks for any and all replies.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

   Scott Johnson
   Digital Equipment Corporation
   Colorado Springs, Co


author: Durai Venkatasubramanian

subject: Re: Internal consistency error in Foxpro

text:
In article <[email]> [email] (Scott Johnson) writes:

 Check out the number of files in config.sys.  Allocate more, if necessary.


author: news

text:
In article <[email]>, [email] (Scott Johnson) writes:
*
*
*I have a problem with a database application I wrote. When I execute some
*stuff to access several databases, I get the above mentioned error.  I was
*told a way to fix this is to do a dos copy of the database to another file and
*then copy it back using Foxpro.  I tried it last night and was not able to
*verify that it worked.  I ended up doing a dos copy on the file, then an
*append from the temporary file to the current file.  The current file was the
*original file.  Did I do this right?
*
*Thanks for any and all replies.
*
*----------------------------------------------------------------------
*
*   Scott Johnson
*   Digital Equipment Corporation
*   Colorado Springs, Co

One solution would be to purchase a copy of Paradox for Windows, and simply
use the referential integrity feature (which FoxPro doesn't have).  That
feature strikes me as sort of like brakes on a car, as in "How in the
world did they ever sell cars before they had THOSE?"


text:
It's the network.  It turns out he had a loose connection on one of his systems.
I guess you can say the power is in the network...
----------------------------------------------------------------------

   Scott Johnson
   Digital Equipment Corporation
   Colorado Springs, Co


author: Silas Palmer-Cannon

subject: CSS Top bar

text:
Hellllo All,

I'm just saying a friendly hellllo because I am In desperate need of
some help.

I'm doing a website for a group of people at my school and I want to
have a black bar across the top of every page (like the one at
www.vizspring.com)

It needs two be two-tone with the top bar being total black and
reaching 70 pixels down and the whole way across the top and then a
second bar right up againsed the first reaching down 30 pixels
coloured 50% black.

If you can't send me direct code send me some websites that might help
me figure it out.

Oh! and I would appreciate it if you could foward your reply directly
to me as often I can't find the replys to my messages.

<[email]>

Thanks,
Silas


author: Jacqui or Pete (maybe

subject: Re: CSS Top bar

text:
In article <[email]>,
[email] says...
...
Chill out about the 'exactly 70 pixels' stuff. You don't know how big a
pixel is on your reader's browser anyway.  Relax & go with the html
flow.

Something like this should be OK as a starting point:

http://porjes.haxorz.org/alayout.html

That's not how usenet works.


subject: Re: CSS Top bar

text:
In article <[email]>,
[email] says...

You're welcome. Note that in a real site you'd have the css in an
external file, using something like:

<link rel="stylesheet" href="mystyles.css" type="text/css"
media="screen" >


author: William Cochrane

subject: MEssage Based Architectures

text:
I am involved in specifying a system which will link many OS/2 machines,
through a Stratus switch, to several IBM MVS hosts.  The recommendation is to
develop "message based" architecture for reliability.

What is the definition of a message based architecure?

Do any exist which can be adopted and used in this environment?

Do any exist which if they cannot be used as id, could be used as models?


author: Ivan Milman

subject: Re: MEssage Based Architectures

text:
In <[email]>, [email] (William Cochrane) writes:

IBM has a messaging subsystem that runs on a number of platforms
(including OS/2 and MVS).  The subsystem is the MQSeries.

Ivan M. Milman	 IBM Distributed Systems  [email]
(512)838-8152	 T/L 678-8152		  VNET:  MILMAN at AUSTIN


author: Barry Johnson

subject: Re: MEssage Based Architectures

text:
In article <[email]> [email] (William Cochrane) writes:

   One of the IBM divisions in Boca Raton has an amazing product
   to perform multi-platform messaging.  Not surprisingly, it includes
   OS/2 and MVS platforms, as well as MS-DOS/Windows, HP-UX, and several
   other non-IBM operating systems.  We wanted an open solution, and it
   -really- looks like this is a good one (even though it's from IBM!)

   The product is basically a "software backplane" handling inter-machine
   communications, and is reconfigurable on the fly as systems join
   the network or drop out of service.  If you're serious about messaging,
   you really need to take a look at the product.

   Contact   John Massey, Mgr. DAE Market Development and Solutions
	     IBM - Boca Raton, FL     (407) 443-6675
	     [email]

----------------------------------

Barry Johnson ([email])
The Systems House, Inc.
Rosemont, IL


author: Eli Barzilay

subject: PLT Scheme v206p1 available

text:
PLT Scheme v206p1 is now available from

    http://download.plt-scheme.org/

This is a patched version that solves a few v206 bugs:

* Printing scale bug fixed for Windows NT/2000/XP.

* Upgraded ProfessorJ.

Feedback welcome.


author: [redacted]

subject: Re: PLT Scheme v206p1 available

text:
Eli Barzilay <[email]> wrote:

Thanks for the great Scheme package. I'm using the MzScheme part (the
command-line only package) under Windows and I noticed that
web-server-text.exe requires mred library, which is not included in
the MzScheme package and as far as I can tell based on the information
found from the /collects/web-server/doc.txt, it should not be required
in the first place.


author: Joe Marshall

subject: Re: PLT Scheme v206p1 available

text:
[email] writes:

What error are you getting?  I was running the web-server-text.exe a
day or two ago and it didn't require MrEd then.


subject: Re: PLT Scheme v206p1 available

text:
[email] writes:

I'll look into this tomorrow.


subject: Re: PLT Scheme v206p1 available

text:
Joe Marshall <[email]> wrote:

Here is the error message:

C:\Program Files\MzScheme>web-server-text.exe
standard-module-name-resolver: collection not found: "mred" in any of:
("C:\\Documents and Settings\\Matti Karki\\Application Data\\PLT
Scheme\\206p1\\collects" "C:\\Program Files\\MzScheme\\collects")

That's all. It might be, that I have been too hasty to test the web
server. I haven't modified any configuration files or anything.


subject: Re: PLT Scheme v206p1 available

text:
[email] writes:

Short answer -- edit web-server/configuration.ss and comment out the
mred line (should be line #84 in the distributed file).

[Longer answer -- there is now a program that uses the dependency
files so there are no bad dependencies for the various plt
distributions, so problems like this should not occur as a result of
code relying statically on other code.  If anything like this happens,
then just like in this case, it is a result of some dynamic-require
thing.  (Which makes it impossible to automatically weed out such
bugs...)]


subject: Re: PLT Scheme v206p1 available

text:
Eli Barzilay <[email]> writes:

(Forgot to add that this will be fixed in future versions.)


subject: Re: PLT Scheme v206p1 available

text:
Eli Barzilay <[email]> wrote:

Thank you. Now the server works perfectly.


author: Euphoric

subject: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
Anybody knows a cheap source for ACIAs ?

www.topelec.fr sells 68A50 at 7? and 6551A at 13?

Anyone better ?

Cheers,

Fabrice

PS: it's for the Oric, so 6850 and 6551 need to be at least 1.5 MHz version,
hence the 'A' in the reference...


author: Steve Marshall

subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Euphoric" <[email]> wrote

Won't you find these in an old Atari ST ?

Typically sites offering these chips don't list prices.
http://www.microbite.co.uk/products/6/1450.htm
for example.

Steve M


author: Silicebit.

subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
If the Oric clock is 1MHz, donï¿½t work the 1MHz ACIAs?

Cheers.

Silicebit.

"Euphoric" <[email]> escribiï¿½ en el mensaje
news:41efd12d$0$1027$[email]...


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Steve Marshall" <[email]> a ï¿½crit dans le message de
news:41f05666$0$74069$[email]...

Not the 6551, but there are two 6850 in an Atari ST...
But I think they are 6850, not 68A50 or 68B50, though...

Cheers,

Fabrice


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Silicebit." <[email]> a ï¿½crit dans le message de
news:iHQId.480544$[email]...

Unfortunately, the 1 MHz clock of the Oric is not symetrical, it has a
1/3-length high level, and a 2/3rd low level, i.e a 333 ns high level (the same
length as the one of a symetrical 1.5 MHz clock)
The 6850 datasheet says that the 1 MHz version of the 6850 has a minimum clock
pulse width of 450 ns...
That's why we need the 1.5 MHz version (it as a minimum clock pulse width of 280
ns)...

Cheers,

Fabrice


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Euphoric" <[email]> wrote

:o( Shame.

Came across this page - not sure if it is of any use to you.
http://www.howell1964.freeserve.co.uk/parts/6551.htm

Steve M


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
I did not know that Oric clock is asymmetric. Then you have two options.

1. the more expensive; Get a 6850 and to design a delaying circuit.

2. the cheaper; Get a 68A50 :-).

Well, I've two 68A50, I don't know if them works fine, these was pull-out
from a obsolete equipment.

I can send it to you for free, if you are interested, mail me at
[email] (erase numbers).

Cheers.

Alfonso.

"Euphoric" <[email]> escribiï¿½ en el mensaje
news:41f4b719$0$29107$[email]...


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Silicebit." <[email]> a ï¿½crit dans le message de
news:BYbJd.516292$[email]...

How can it be that every time I'm looking for a chip, you have it ? :-)
Alfonso, obselete parts source... oops, beware of undesired meaning of that
latter sentence.... ;-)
Well, I'm going to try to order about ten 6551A from a US stockist, but I would
appreciate one of your two 68A50 for a prototype board I've designed...

Cheers,

Fabrice


author: Andre Majorel

subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
On 2005-01-25, Euphoric <[email]> wrote:

If you do, could you add a few for me ? How much are they ?
We'll split the shipping costs.


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Euphoric" <[email]> escribiï¿½ en el mensaje
news:41f613ed$0$2507$[email]...

Ha ha ha :-D.

Why I have a lot of obsolete parts?. Well, I'm electronics technician and
I'm working in a important telecommunications enterprise (Telefonica, is as
france telecom in France or british telecom in England), when a equipment is
obsolete and is switch off, then I inspect the PCBs looking for usable parts
for possibles expansions for my Oric and my Commodore128.

Uhmmm. I think that 6551s have a design bug, the 65C51s have the bug
corrected

If you refresh my memory with your postal address, I'll send you the 68A50.

Cheers.

Alfonso.


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Andre Majorel" <[email]> a ï¿½crit dans le message de
news:[email]...

I have not the use for ten ACIAs, I was already anticipating that some people
could be interested by the 6551A, and planning to bring them during next
CEO-meeting :-)
(I can also send them directly to you if the CEO-meeting is too late for you)
Do you think 10 ACIAs will be enough ?
I should have asked here before, this was just to save time (remember how long
it was last time with the CPUs...)...
The stockist I have spotted has about two hundred of them (not that much), and
the price for a single unit is $5.50

Cheers,

Fabrice


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Silicebit." <[email]> a ï¿½crit dans le message de
news:VDvKd.38460$[email]...

Yes, you remember right... the Nmos version of the 6551 has a bug with the
handling of the CTS signal: it stops sending in the middle of a char if the CTS
signal drops... But this is not a problem for me, because I always wire /CTS to
the ground...

Cheers,

Fabrice


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
On 2005-01-26, Euphoric <[email]> wrote:

Thanks Fabrice. No hurry. I don't need them, I'm just stocking
up "au cas oï¿½". Next CEO meeting will be just fine.

That's about 28 FRF a pop plus shipping. At that price, I'll
take five. If you have already sent the order, don't worry. I'll
do with what's left. As I said, I don't _need_ them.


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
Ok, if you wire CTS to the ground then, no problem. Please, remember me your
postal address for send you the 68A50.

Cheers.

Alfonso.

"Euphoric" <[email]> escribiï¿½ en el mensaje
news:41fb50c9$0$31085$[email]...


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Andre Majorel" <[email]> a ï¿½crit dans le message de
news:[email]...

Finally I decided to order 15 pieces, maybe more people than expected will want
one...
I received a confirmation of the order but I still don't know if they will ship
to outside US...

Cheers,

Fabrice


subject: Re: cheap source for ACIA ?

text:
"Euphoric" <[email]> a ï¿½crit dans le message de
news:41fb5159$0$31063$[email]...
want
ship

Yippee, the chips arrived yesterday !
Congrats to this Unicorn Electronics, at least there's one US company that has
no problem shipping products to France ;-)
So, I have fifteen 6551A; if some people want some, just tell me...

Fabrice


author: Patrick Klein

subject: mach-o with 7.1 patch

text:
Hello,

I probably missed a number of threads about this, but here goes anyway:

(1) still no terminal when debugging mach-o console applications, so no
cin and cout.

(2) if Runtime Settings -> Program arguments are supposed to show up in
argc and argv, they don't.

(3) if I hard-wire some stuff to get around (1) and (2), CW hangs after
the debugger launches. Sometimes,
I get the "log" window (is this supposed with be cout?), sometimes not.

The application does run without problems if launched from the Terminal,
which is an improvement.
Also improved is the link time (~35 sec), which is now compared with the
GNU tools (~25 sec), but
still not close to the link time of the Carbon version of the app (~5
sec). I'm also wondering what
to expect for the size of the executable:

    CW Carbon (debug settings, no optimization): 2.7 Mb
    CW mach-o (debug settings, no optimitaztion): 39.5 Mb
    gnu ("-g"): 18.7 Mb

Thanks,

Patrick


author: MW Ron

subject: Re: mach-o with 7.1 patch

text:
In article <[email]>,
 Patrick Klein <[email]> wrote:

I've asked the engineers on this and they tend to think that the size
difference is just our debugging info in the output file. If you select
"Strip Debugging Information" on the PPC Mach-O Linker panel the output
file size should get reduced substantially (around half).

I hope this is it, if not let me know

My apology for the delay in replying.

Ron


subject: Re: mach-o with 7.1 patch

text:
In article <[email]>,
 Patrick Klein <[email]> wrote:

I believe Josef is working on this for CW 8.

I'll have to repprt this.

Should be the same we still use the Apple Mach-O linker for 7.1

If you want to track this submit this as a bug report.

Ron


author: Andrew Cunningham

subject: Re: mach-o with 7.1 patch

text:
I see the same  problem ( rather annoying , isn't it!)

See this all the time. Debugging is impossible.

Under CW, Mach-O terminal apps are not pretty at the moment.

Andrew


author: David Rehring

subject: Re: mach-o with 7.1 patch

text:
In article <[email]>,
 Andrew Cunningham <[email]> wrote:

I would suggest doing all your coding in CodeWarrior and then
build/debug in ProjectBuilder...

Stupid ProjectBuilder 'feature' of the day:

In a 'normal' editting window [not the be everything to everyone project
window]:
double-click on NSTextStorage and you get a nice popup with a bunch of
items related to NSTextStorage
now, double-click on NSWindow.  Nothing appears to happen.  NSWindow
isn't even selected.  I think, hey, this stupid application knows about
more obscure classes but not main ones?  How lame.

Now, move your editting window so it doesn't cover up the 'find' portion
of your project window.  Double-click on NSWindow and you can see what
happens.  It presents all the 'results' it finds in the project window,
which, of course, doesn't come to the front.

I will be so happy when CW can build drivers [well, less unhappy :-)]...

Later,


author: David Field

subject: Re: Why Windows Machines Suck

text:
Petri Holopainen <[email]> wrote:

I agree with you. I wonder what it is about these people that they
feel they have to do this. After Steve Jobs' "Why can't we all get
along" keynote, where is there left for these people to go?

David.


author: Mike C.

subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"Fake Mike C." wrote:

Did not write the above.

Fake Mike is attempting to get closer to the real deal but he has
not quite got it yet.

Keep trying -- you might learn how to be a "Mike C." yet.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"Fake Mike C." <[email]> wrote:

PS.   Actually there is more than one, that much is sure;

Oh, well, more net-toys to discipline.

Chuckle.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"Fake Mike C." wrote:

I have no need to "discipline" "Net Toys"... I just enjoy them as
they are.

You are still confused about how to be "Mike C." obviously.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"Fake Mike C." <[email]> wrote:

Actually being confused  is part of the deal.

Got it yet?

  I guess not.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"Fake Mike C." wrote:

If "being confused" is a quality of the real "Mike C." and you
think I am confused, then what does that make YOU?

By the use of your own funny logic, you have just said you are
NOT the real "Mike C.".

Chuckle.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"Fake Mike C." <[email]> wrote:

My own funny logic is part of the deal.

Get it yet?

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"Mike C." wrote:

Nope, that is just my opinion of your logic.  YOU think you are
not confused, so by your own admission you can't be the real
"Mike C." because the real "Mike C." is confused.

Chuckle.  By your own standards YOU can't be the real "Mike C."

I really do laugh at you.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"Fake Mike C." wrote:

If I want proof of my confusion, I read my own messages (see cited
above)

":^) ï¿½


author: The Real Mike C.

subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Clone Mike C." wrote:

If you want to be confused by your own messages that is up to you.

I don't care.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"Another Fake Mike C." <[email]> wrote:

Are you reassuring yourself again?

Chuckle.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Fake Mike C." wrote:

Is that what you think?  How amusing.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Really  Bogus Mike C." <[email]> wrote:

It is?   Can you explain and give some amusement?

  And maybe reassure yourself some more in the process.

Chuckle.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Fake Mike C." wrote:

Chuckle.  Not my job to entertain you.  Go watch TV.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Really Bogged-down  Mike C." <[email]> wrote:

    I didn't say it was your *job* did I?

Oh I see, just some more rhetoric.

   OK, that was humorous enough in a farcical kind of way.

  Want to try again with some more.

It is your job remember   ;-/

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Fake Mike C." wrote:

Just reminding you that your state of mind is not my problem.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Real Bogus Mike C." <[email]> wrote:

And I remind you vice versa.

  So what now?

To the nursing home?

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Fake Mike C." wrote:

Well, I have never been at a loss to find things to do or to
write about, or to think about, maybe you need to develop your
self reliance.  Think so?

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Fake Mike C." <[email]> wrote:

   I think you are babbling like a baby.   Again.

Go whine somewhere else.

Chuckle.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Fake Mike C." wrote:

What you think is irrelevant.

":^) ï¿½

I think I will write in this newsgroup for as longs as I wish.

":^) ï¿½


subject: Re: mercurial effect

text:
"The Real Childish Mike C." <[email]> wrote:

To who?

":^) ï¿½


author: Philfree

subject: Kermit installation question

text:
Hello,

I have downloaded and uncompressed Kermit and would like to install it on my
unix openserver.
The "Makefile" explains to run a "make" command to install this program, but
I can't find this file anywhere....
Am I doing anything wrong ? How can I install it ?
Thanks for any help,


author: UBW

subject: Re: Kermit installation question

text:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2003 08:12:45 +0200, "Philfree" <[email]> wrote:

I've never downloaded the the source, just binaries from
ftp.kermit.columbia.edu.  If you wish to compile your own and need
additional help try looking at
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckuins.html for installation
instructions, or posting posting questions to
news://comp.protocols.kermit.misc.
UBW


author: Brian K. White

subject: Re: Kermit installation question

text:
"Philfree" <[email]> wrote in message news:<3e9116c0$0$30750$[email]>...

Since you don't have make, and don't know what it's for, I will assume
that compiling kermit (or any other program) is a project you'd rather
avoid if possible.

You are in luck. Pre-built executable binaries for this program happen
to be available for just about every possible version of sco.

What version of Open Server do you have? (what does "uname -v" say?)
If you have 5.0.6, I'd download the following file:
ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/bin/cku209.sco32v506anet

place it in /usr/bin
rename it to "kermit"
chmod 755 /usr/bin/kermit

commands to do the above:
rftp -g -bh kermit.columbia.edu /kermit/bin/ cku209.sco32v506anet
mv cku209.sco32v506anet /usr/bin/kermit
chmod 755 /usr/bin/kermit

If you have some other version of sco unix besides 5.0.5 Enterprise,
then get one of the other files from:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck80binaries.html


author: Sumeer

subject: Remapping a Matrix.

text:
Hi Guys,
New user to Matlab. I have to write an engineering program in Matlab, & need to remap entries in 3 different 6x6 matrices, to make a large 18x18 matrix. Any suggestions on how I might go about this?
regards
Sumeer


author: James Tursa

subject: Remapping a Matrix.

text:
"Sumeer " <[email]> wrote in message <hov3he$p5f$[email]>...

Not sure how you want them combined from your limited post. Generally you can use the [ ; ] operation (concatenation) to do this.  Since this is an engineering problem and you have only given us three pieces, I am guessing that this is a symmetric system. If so, then you can do this:

A = upper left 6 x 6 block.
C = lower left 6 x 6 block.
D = upper right 6 x 6 block.

M = [A C'; C D]

If this is not what you want then please post a more detailed question.

James Tursa


author: Sadik

subject: Remapping a Matrix.

text:
Hi Sameer,

Are you sure it will be 18x18? Because 6x6x3 can give 18x6 or 6x18.

In any case, you can use reshape() after concatenating the matrices as follows:

matrix3D = zeros(6,6,3);
matrix3D(:,:,1) = A;
matrix3D(:,:,2) = B;
matrix3D(:,:,3) = C;

newMatrix = reshape(matrix3D,[18 6]); % or any other dimension, but still keeping 108 elements

Best.


subject: Remapping a Matrix.

text:
"James Tursa" <[email]> wrote in message <hovqeg$p0s$[email]>...

Hi Guys, thanks for your responses, I have been able to work out what I need to do to solve my problem. Thanks for your help.
regards Sumeer


author: Todd Bandrowsky

subject: Re: Win95 or NT?

text:
Tell me about it.  In IE, the "use % of disk space" is the most
imaginatively inaccurate tool known to man.  Does Linux make more
intelligent use of disk space?


author: Bill Near

subject: Re: Amiga vs PC

text:
In comp.sys.amiga.advocacy [email] wrote:

I knew you'd enjoy that, Bernd.

Really, what do you use, direct cerebral intervention?

Bill "watching his C-band dish" Near


author: John Williams (News

subject: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
After two nasty shocks - one a failed IEE cable and the second a failed
network cable - I am looking towards a backup system for my Iyonix.

I really can't afford to be without access to RISC OS!

Both the BeagleBoard (and its RComp incarnation) and the Raspberry PI are
known to me - but has anyone done a comparison between these options which
also highlights the limitations of each under RISC OS?

For example, will both/either work with an 'ordinary' LCD monitor?

John

--
John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses!
Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject!
Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/


author: Jess

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
In message <[email]>
          "John Williams (News)" <[email]> wrote:

Do you want something that works out of the box, or something you
don't mind fiddling with?

If you need a working solution and support, then you would need the
Armini.

If you are happy building your own then a Pi would probably be best,
if you are experienced building kit, then a BB or a panda might be a
better bet.

How much money you can justify/afford.

The Pi is so cheap, it could be bought as a toe dipping exercise.

Another is how much of a performance upgrade you want.

They will all have the same limits w.r.t accessing USB (for hard
drives and network access, which the Iyonix does directly) so in some
situations they will all be slower than an Iyonix.

However, the Pi feels quite a bit snappier than my Iyonix. (And there
is perhaps 50% more performance which can be unlocked, just by
overclocking).

The BB ought to be considerably quicker, and the Panda faster again.

There is also the issue of software compatibility.

The Pi will run most Iyonix compatible software if the processor mode
is configured to emulate the older processor, but BB has Aemulor
available)

Depends on what you mean by ordinary.

All have HDMI out, none work out of the box with a VGA monitor.

The Pi (and Panda) should be able to run most DVI monitors at native
resolution. (There is a question about monitors above 1920x1200,
though).

The BB has some limits because it appears to have been designed for
30Hz 1080p HDTVs.

This means that it will only work (correctly) with big monitors that
accept 30Hz inputs.

This is only an issue if you already have a 1920x1200 or 1600x1200 DVI
screen you wish to use (I have both).

If you have a small DVI screen or a full spec 1080p screen then you
are fine. (Or if your budget includes a new screen)

HTH

--
Jess                   Iyonix


author: JV

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
In message <[email]>
          "John Williams (News)" <[email]> wrote:

I have a Beagleboard XM and yes you do need a special monitor I got
mine from R-Comp. It as three ports i.e. HMDI, DVI, and VGA. I have my
Beagleboard, Iyonix and a Windows Box all connected and switch on and
networked. I can switch the monitor between all three and just swap
the wireless dongle to use the keyboard and mouse.

or

Why not wait for the Raspberry Pi version of Risc OS (still in alpha
stage). Its works with my standard Flatron HDMI monitor ok.

JV


author: Dave Higton

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
In message <[email]>
          "John Williams (News)" <[email]> wrote:

An ordinary monitor nowadays has an HDMI input.  Perhaps you mean an
old-fashioned monitor that only has an analogue input?  If you do,
the answer is no, or at least you might get a standard definition TV
output.

LCD monitors with HDMI inputs are cheap.  I suggest it's a purchase
you won't regret.

I think it may be a while before the RPi has a reliable enough USB
system that I'd trust it for really serious work.  I'm currently
happier with a BBxM.

Dave


author: SG nws

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
Doug Webb wrote:

Can you expand on what you mean by "less polished" and does
this apply to all versions of the Pandaboard, or just the ES.

--
Stewart Goldwater
http://janusg.co.nr


subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
In article <[email]>,
   Jess <[email]> wrote:

and has indeed been ordered.

John

--
John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses!
Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject!
Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/


author: Stuart

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
In article <[email]>,
   JV <[email]> wrote:

It may be Alpha but it seems to work very well and a number of standard RO
applications seem to work quite happily.

This was being checked out at the last MUG meeting and I understand
someone is supposed to be updating our website with some notes about this.

--
Stuart Winsor

Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org


author: Doug Webb

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
In message <[email]>
          JV <[email]> wrote:

[snip]

Well you really don't need a "special" monitor but the Beagle's video
bandwidth is a bit limited so you do need one that is capable of low
frame rates and the MDF can be tricky to get right. So you can either
purchase your own monitor and be prepared to have a play about setting
it up or get one from a RISC OS dealer along with an MDF that just
works.

Beagleboard is well supported, Panda port is less polished but getting
there with the hardware faster than the Beagle.

Raspberry Pi is currently Alpha state and slowest of the three unless
you overclock it, though lots of development across the RISC OS
community going on to launch an officially supported version.

All three have slower disc/media access than the Iyonix.

--
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM,
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.


author: John Rickman Iyonix

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
Stuart  wrote

The last MUG meeting was an unofficaial Raspberry Jam with 6 machines.
The write up of the meeting is here:
       http://mug.riscos.org/meets/mt1209.htm

--
John - http://mug.riscos.org/


author: Theo Markettos

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
Doug Webb <[email]> wrote:

RPi does 1920x1080 as the default, but is good at scaling to other sizes (eg
if I plug it into my 1280x1024 monitor, RISC OS still drives 1920x1080 and
the GPU quite nicely rescales it).  The max size RPi can theoretically do is
2560x1600, but I'm not sure if that works.  It's worked at every monitor
I've used it on - as long as it's got a DVI or HDMI port it should work.

Out of interest, has anyone tried a USB SSD to see how it compares?

Theo


author: Harriet Bazley

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
On 1 Oct 2012 as I do recall,
          Doug Webb  wrote:

[snip]

... which most notably has serious impact on Messenger Pro's
performance, especially debatching.   Saving files isn't normally a
noticeable problem:   but accessing lots of small files in quick
succession creates a major performance hit.

--
Harriet Bazley                     ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

Hypocrisy is underrated.


author: Chris Gransden

subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
In article <[email]>,
   Harriet Bazley <[email]> wrote:

If you get an SSD hard drive
(http://www.ebuyer.com/278646-ocz-120gb-solid-ssd-sld3-25sat3-120g)
and usb sata adapter
(http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sata+to+usb+adapter+cable)
Format it as fat32 and install fat32fs it should get most of the
performance back.
It made a big difference to the speed of !Pluto running on a
Pandaboard/Beagleboard.

Chris.


subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
In message <[email]>
          Chris Gransden <[email]> wrote:

Well about 50% additional increase on Byte access and only 8% on
Block/Load and save according to !HDSpeed test on BeagleBoard -Xm at
1Ghz

Welcome additional speed but still restricted by the USB2 interface.

SDCard significantly helps for random reads which helps on random
baseline.

Compared to Iyonix which shows slower random baseline against SDFS but
faster than hard disc or SDD and the Iyonix is about 80% faster for
Block Load/Saves and suggests this reflects UDMA impact?

Assuming I read this right of course

Tests Compared to Miniscribe ST506

USB Hard Drive

Average random variation from baseline              376%
Average block variation from baseline               2595%

OCZ SDD

Average random variation from baseline              556%
Average block variation from baseline               2800%

SDCard via SDFS

Average random variation from baseline              2779%
Average block variation from baseline               1996%

HardDisc on Iyonix using RISC OS 5.19

Average random variation from baseline              1306%
Average block variation from baseline               4854%

--
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM,
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.


subject: Re: BeagleBoard/Raspberry PI

text:
In article <[email]>,
   Doug Webb <[email]> wrote:

Those tests are all for filecore formatted drives. If you format your SSD
and USB drive as fat32 and use fat32fs you'll get much better random read
performace due to the caching. So fast it causes !HDSpeed to crash.

Chris.


author: Christian

subject: Query and Bill of Material

text:
Hi

Am am working with a big Bill of Material(BOM) table and have a question.
The BOM I am working with have several levels, which means that some partno.
have a BOM and under this bill there are partno, there also have a BOM.

I need a query, where I can choose a partno. from the top-levet and get all
the partsno under it. So the query have to make a kind of a loop and check
for partnumbers at all all levels. How do I do that?

Best regards
Christian


author: Bob Hall

subject: Re: Query and Bill of Material

text:
In article <3d3c4ada$0$396$[email]>, Christian wrote:

You're dealing with a tree structure.

                  A
                /   \
               B     C
             / | \
            D  E  F

The best source of info on trees that I know of is 'SQL For Smarties'
by Joe Celko. It has two chapters on trees. In your case, I would
ignore the first chapter on trees. It deals with the adjacency list
model, and I don't think you can do what you want with that model,
except possibly by setting up a transitive closure table. It would
be simpler (I think) to use the nested sets model.

There's some info on trees on my web site, but aside from writing
queries in Access SQL, there's nothing on my site that isn't in Celko's
book (and a good deal in the book that isn't on my site). I also have
the beta version of an app for managing trees on my site. I don't know
if it will do you any good, but you're welcome to download it and use it.

Bob Hall


author: Wayne Gillespie

subject: Re: Query and Bill of Material

text:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:10:41 +0200, "Christian"
<[email]> wrote:

I went through this problem a couple of years ago 8-)

I have a couple of mdb's I used for testing a solution using recursive
loops to drill down to the lowest (unknown) level for each part
assembly. You can download my test files from

www.bestfitsoftware.com.au/downloads/access/bomtests.zip

The mdb's are in A97 format, so you will need to convert them if you
are using a later version. They also use a TreeView control to display
the part structures so you will need to set a reference to
Mscomctl.ocx (MS Common Controls).

The code is a bit rough as it was only test code, but the
functionality works and will drill down to an infinate number of
levels until it finds no more sub assemblies. (The sample drills down
to 10 levels).

You may find something you can use.

Wayne


author: Larry Linson

subject: Re: Query and Bill of Material

text:
The good news is you can do a self-join: you can include the same table in a
query more than once and join it to a copy of itself. (You'll have to change
the join type -- click each join line to highlight it, right click and
choose Join Properties, then change to all values from (the left-hand table
in the join) and only those that match from (the right-hand table in the
join).

The bad news is that you must know in advance (so you can include that many
copies of the table in the query), how deep this hierarchy goes. That is, if
it can go a maximum of seven levels before the final "assembly" resolves to
just "part numbers" without any having its own BOM, then you'd need seven
copies of the table in the query.


subject: Re: Query and Bill of Material

text:
In article <R7%_8.21772$[email]>, Larry Linson wrote:

Actually, you can do this with a single self-join if you're using
the nested sets model. You might be able to do this with a single
join with the adjacency list model (which is the model I think you
have in mind) by adding a transitive closure table. But I work very
little with adjacency lists, so I haven't tried it.

Bob Hall


author: vippstar

subject: eval and macros

text:
Hello group.

It's been some time since I've last written lisp code. This question
whose answer I once possibly knew and now eludes me, is bothering me.
Assume I've designed a macro such as:

(m (1 + 2 * 3))
==> 9

Macros are used by the programmer. What if I want them to be used by
the user? For instance, to READ an expression from a stream and use
the m macro to expand to lisp code; I've found a solution to be the
use of EVAL:

(eval (let ((l '((x 1))))
        (list 'let l 'x)))       ; or: `(let ,l x)

So I could use (eval (list 'm (read))). Any risks to that? I see none
unless the macro M is exploitable. Is there a better method? FUNCALL
and APPLY is suggested instead of EVAL but these work with function
designators.


author: Vassil Nikolov

subject: Re: eval and macros

text:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:40:45 -0700 (PDT), vippstar <[email]> said:

  If you follow one of the usual approaches and implement it by first
  implementing a function, say, MC (for M's Calculator), such that

    (mc '(1 + 2 * 3)) => 9

  and then

    (m (1 + 2 * 3)) -> (mc '(1 + 2 * 3))

  i.e.

    (defmacro m (literal-expression) `(mc ,literal-expression))

  then...

  ... you just say instead

    (mc (read))

  and nobody played synthesizers ^W^W used EVAL... again.

  ---Vassil.


subject: Re: eval and macros

text:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:40:45 -0700 (PDT), vippstar <[email]> said:

  P.S. If you strongly want

    (m (1 + 2 * 3)) -> (* (+ 1 2) 3)

  (i.e. that a literal expression expands into "native" code), you can
  do that with a compiler macro).

  ---Vassil.


subject: Re: eval and macros

text:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:56:37 -0400, Vassil Nikolov <[email]> said:

                                            ^
  Correction:                          `(mc ',literal-expression)

  ---Vassil.


author: Tod

subject: Minimum datecreated in list of folders

text:
I'm using filesystemobject to list subfolders in a folder. What I'd
rather do is return the oldest folder by datecreated. I can loop
through them, I'm wondering if fso offers a more direct way to do this
or if anyone knows of a way.

tod


author: Michael B. Johnson

subject: Re: Minimum datecreated in list of folders

text:
On 16 Mar 2006 08:23:50 -0800, "Tod" <[email]> wrote:

See also in this newsgroup...

From: "[email]" <[email]>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
Subject: Listing all the files in a folder and subfolders
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:30:10 -0000

...and replies thereto.
_______________________
Michael B. Johnson


text:
Okay, thanx for the info. I'll try that. I knew there had to be some
way the file systerm or OS knew this without having to do the math
myself.


author: J French

text:
On 16 Mar 2006 08:23:50 -0800, "Tod" <[email]> wrote:

No - you have to loop through them

Beats me why you are using the FSO

Your fastest method is to run through using the
FindFirstFile/FindNextFile APIs


author: Glenn M.

subject: Identifying messages by Identity?

text:
I'm just trying 4.01 and must say that I am a bit disappointed
in the way it handles multiple accounts.

Handling multiple accounts is very simple and intuitive
in Outlook Express. Pegasus makes it too complicated,
offering 3 different ways to do it: user, identity, multipop.

I think using multiple identities will suit my situation best.
My only gripe about using multiple identities is that
it dumps the mail from all identies into the same inbox,
and there does not seem to be any way to associate a
message with which identity it came from.
In Outlook Express you can add an "Account" column to the
message list to indicate which account it came from.

In fact, OE allows you to set whatever columns you want
in the message list. I'm disappointed that Pegasus doesn't
seem to allow the columns to be customized at all.

Is this a real shortcoming of 4.01, or am I missing something ?


author: Nomad

subject: Re: Identifying messages by Identity?

text:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:14:14 +0000 (UTC), "Glenn M."
<[email]> wrote:

OE also uses different ways to handle accounts.  OE "Identities" which
are actually different users, and OE "Accounts", which are actually
identities.  Go figure!

As far as simplicity and intuitiveness, PMail beats OE hands down.  To
test, try to change the POP mail server for one of your
Identities/accounts:

PMail:	3 clicks, type the new server address, click OK.  Done.

OE:	5 clicks type the new server address, click OK (or Apply+OK),
	click Close.  Finally done.

Another test, try and set up OE for more than one user in a roaming
environment, then try PMail, and then see which you think is
easier/simpler to use.  These are just two examples, but I could go
on.

As for Multipop, I never use it as I find using PMails identities more
powerful, but it is a nice feature, and perfect for some peoples
setup.
Have a look at PMails filters.  Simple and very powerful.  You could
filter your newmail and move messages into folders dependant on many
criteria, such as the "To: " headers.  The only time when this might
fall over, is when recieveing mail from some list-servers, where your
address doesn't appear in the "To: " header.
What columns do you really need for an email program?  If you can
filter the mail into their respective folders, why would you need an
"Account" header?  IMHO, it'd just take up extra screen space that
would better serve some other purpose.

If you're new to PMail, 4.01 or any other version, work with it for a
while, read a few pages of the help file, check out all the damn cool
things it can do in PMail that few other mail apps can (especially
OE), even fewer of which do all of them.  Then sit back and realize
that you haven't infected your PC with a single internet worm since
you stopped using OE.

By then, I think you'll be (yet another) avid fan of PMail.


subject: Re: Identifying messages by Identity?

text:
PMail seems like 5 clicks to me:
Click Arrow to activate Identity Pull-Down list
Click desired Identity
Tools
Internet Options
Receiving or Sending tab

But the number of clicks is not the issue.
Understanding what to do is.
There are 2 sets of Options: "Options" and "Internet Options".
The term "Internet Options" makes me think of how to connect
to the internet (which dialup, etc.), not the Identity properties.
In my opinion "Internet Options" is poorly named.
Maybe "Identity Options" would be clearer.
The "Options" apply to ALL identities (I think),
but the "Internet Options" apply to EACH identity.
That is not obvious. Indeed someone in a previous message
did not realize this.
Yea, once you learn this it is no big deal, but it makes
it a little harder for newbies to learn it.

Right. No way to be sure which Identity a message came from.
It would be nice if one of the filter options is Identity.
OE can filter by Account.

I canNOT filter by Identity, so I'd like some way to tell
which Identity a message came from.
Even if I could filter messages into separate folders by Identity,
I think I'd still prefer to keep them in one folder so I don't
have to keep switching folders. So I'd like a column for Identity.

I guess I don't know enough about the tool to know what
"damn cool things" you are talking about.
Yea, its filter Actions can do virtually anything, but I
really don't find the need to use filters much.
Besides, the one filter condition I want (by Identity) is not there.
Selective Download is very nice. I don't think I have much use for
most of the Extensions.

That's why I looking at it again.
Which features are "important" and ease of use are personal things,
biased by what you are used to.
Let's agree that we can disagree about this.

-- Glenn


subject: Re: Identifying messages by Identity?

text:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:14:21 +0000 (UTC), "Glenn M."
<[email]> wrote:

OK in that sense it'll take 5, but if you're already in that identity?
Also, if you use Outlook identities, you have to switch identity
first, and that means restarting the whole program.  What's up with
that?
True.  I only meant it as a simple example.
But it _does_ contain the connection and dial-up properties, for the
chosen identity.  What are server addresses if not internet options?
What about the dialing tab?  That is how you connect...
Not quite.  The "Options" values can be changed for each identity
(hence the "Base identity on..." button when creating a new identity).
Identities are not purely based on separate dial-in accounts, but
cover a variety of configuration options - for example, message editor
settings, viewer applications, encryption extensions...

In addition to all that, you can set internet options for each
identity, but an identity doesn't _have_ to have an internet e-mail
account at all.
This is the same with any decent peice of software really (those with
any power anyway).  Photoshop is _the_ image editor - would you stick
a newbie infront of photoshop and expect them to just use it straight
off?  Some things are just worth learning, but it depends where you
come from - I've used PMail for over 5 years, in fact I started off
with PMail.

After a couple of years I took over the running of our network.  At
the time I was in a naï¿½ve "everything Microsoft is cool" stage and
thought that PMail was old and had "had it".  So I tried to get OE or
Outlook running for everyone.

Firstly I found that I hated the way the app worked, as it made little
sense (coming from a PMail background), and secondly it was
ridiculously difficult to setup simply on a network (especially for
roaming users).  So I went out to search for a new mail client, and
ended up with a newer PMail (the first 3.x), and I've never looked
back.  I tried all the clients I could find at the time, and it was
the best I came across.
Tinker a bit, I'm sure you'll find a way around this hurdle.  Apart
from mailing lists, you could filter by address headers, and change
the highlight colour of messages to different accounts - not quite the
same, but a similar outcome.

After all, Outlooks "accounts" are individual mail accounts each of
which have unique "To:" addresses anyway - and _can_ be filtered as
such.
Full identity filters would be a nice addition, but that would
probably require another PMail specific header to be added to the
message upon download - you never know, it might happen.
Fair enough, but it is pretty nice just to have a simple extension
mechanism.
Done.  The world would be a pretty boring place if everyone was the
same, used the same stuff, and did the same things.


author: Gregg Eshelman

subject: Re: ISA cards slow down your PC

text:
In article <67pq19$afc$[email]>, [email]
says...

Where is "here"?

Ran into "not enough ISA slots" last week on an Intel PD440FX
Slot 1 board. It has only 3 ISA slots. When you have an ISA NIC,
AWE 64, and a Ditto Dash tape accellerator, where does the modem
go? You have to explain to the customer why the computer is going
to cost more because you have to get a more expensive PCI NIC.
This PC is just going on a 2 station peer to peer NT Workstation
net and didn't need the super fast PCI NIC, but its getting one.

The intel PD440FX also has an on board piezo beeper (disabled
when a speaker is used). This dratted thing is in the upper
front corner (tower case) and blocks the lowest 5.25" drive
bay in a mini tower! Good board, but better use a mid or full
tower case.

Reply to Gregg at [email]


author: bozothedeathmachine

subject: Can't take owndership of diskgroup

text:
Hi all. I'm trying to create a disk-group, but for some reason I can't
take ownership of it. I performed a metadb command (see below) and saw
some output , I then tried to release and re-take the disk group, but
it says I can't because I'm not the owner, but neither of the 2 servers
are the owner. Does anyone know how to remedy this?

Thanks,
Ben..

utsocs1 root#metadb -s dg-smp
        flags           first blk       block count
     a        u         16              1034
/dev/did/dsk/d1s7
     a        u         16              1034
/dev/did/dsk/d2s7
     a        u         16              1034
/dev/did/dsk/d3s7
     a        u         16              1034
/dev/did/dsk/d4s7
     a        u         1050            1034
/dev/did/dsk/d1s7
     a        u         1050            1034
/dev/did/dsk/d2s7
     a        u         1050            1034
/dev/did/dsk/d3s7
     a        u         1050            1034
/dev/did/dsk/d4s7
     a        u         16              1034
/dev/did/dsk/d5s7
     a        u         16              1034
/dev/did/dsk/d6s7
     a        u         16              1034
/dev/did/dsk/d7s7
     a        u         16              1034
/dev/did/dsk/d8s7
     a        u         1050            1034
/dev/did/dsk/d5s7
     a        u         1050            1034
/dev/did/dsk/d6s7
     a        u         1050            1034
/dev/did/dsk/d7s7
     a        u         1050            1034
/dev/did/dsk/d8s7

utsocs1 root#metaset -s dg-smp -r
utsocs1 root#metaset -s dg-smp -t
utsocs1 root#metadb -s dg-smp
metadb: utsocs1: dg-smp: must be owner of the set for this command

utsocs1 root#metadb -s dg-smp
metadb: utsocs1: dg-smp: must be owner of the set for this command


author: Alex Zhilyakov

subject: Re: Can't take owndership of diskgroup

text:
You wrote:

  Have a look at /var/adm/messages - lots of cluster diagnostics go there and don't show up
in command output. Post the output of "metaset" too.

(Probably complaining about reservation keys or stale databases?)


author: [redacted]

subject: Re: Can't take owndership of diskgroup

text:
post the output from the "metaset" command.

If you are running Sun Cluster, try "scswitch -z -D <diskset> -h <your
hose>

-Jeff


subject: Re: Can't take owndership of diskgroup

text:
post the output from the "metaset" command.

If you are running Sun Cluster, try "scswitch -z -D <diskset> -h <your
host>

-Jeff


author: nntp

subject: Make Install Troubles

text:
1
I tested a make install, it has too much output info. Way over my shell
display buffer. I don't want to do "make install > output", because some
requires interaction. I still want to watch the install process. How do I do
it?

2
Make install quickly filled up my whole disk. How do I calculate how much
diskspace I need before make install? Where do I delete those filed added
during make install? Does "make install clean" provent me from install the
same package, other than using pkg_delete then pkg_add?


author: Philip Paeps

subject: Re: Make Install Troubles

text:
nntp <[email]> wrote:

You could use misc/screen with a large scrollback buffer, optionally telling
it to log to a file too.

The pkg-plist tells you what files will be installed, if you add the sizes of
all those files after the build is complete, you know the size of the install.
If you mean how much diskspace you need to build: there's no way to really
find out beforehand.

Use pkg_delete, or pkg_deinstall (part of sysutils/portupgrade).

Yes.

 - Philip


author: mollusk

subject: Re: Make Install Troubles

text:
You could use the 'script' command. just type 'script' before you run
'make install...' and it will save all output to a file called
typescript. Alternatively you can use the syntax 'script <filename>'.


author: Hugh Lawson

subject: redhat network

text:
Has anybody succeeded in getting this up2date business to work?  I am
absolutely baffled by it.  Can't seem to understand anything about it.


author: kevin wilcox

subject: Re: redhat network

text:
In article <[email]>, Hugh Lawson wrote:

Hey Hugh....guess the triad roadrunner group is a little dead, huh?
:)  anyway, yeah, I like up2date somewhat...it does really well...I
installed 7.2 and then ran up2date to get things..well..up to
date...no problem..I recently installed lyx, though, and I think I may
have screwed something up in the process, b/c I can't run the up2date
gui anymore, just from the command line...but it still works fine in
command line mode...

kw


author: jjsmith

subject: Re: redhat network

text:
Something happened with the last round of updated RPM last week, I
can no longer run the gui UNLESS I log out and log back in as root.
Might want to give that a try?

jjsmith

kevin wilcox wrote:


author: David

subject: It is possible to compress random data!!

text:
I have some research work that make meaning it is possible to compress random data.

I need some help to terminate my research.

I want to correspond with someone who want to know more at this subject.
And i want to correspond in french if possible.


author: Tombiche

subject: What does random mean, examples...

text:
Hello!

One is confronted to this problem when transmitting data on a net.
By studying telecommunication science you have to learn about
probability theory.
"Random" could mean that you know no property of the file to be
compressed. Therefore you have to use theorectical maths to discover
hidden properties in spite of your first  feelings.
These properties are translated into a function which name is:
"Mathematical expectation".
This with what you should begin your work.
Learn about "Mathematical expectation" and acquire a new view upon
what "random" is.

Good luck with this mathematical field and do not hesitate to ask me
for a further piece of advice, sincerly yours, Frï¿œdï¿œric Bï¿œgon
(Telecoms Engineer).

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author: Jonathan Hoyle

subject: Re: It is possible to compress random data!!

text:
Explaining what you are trying to do to any mathematically literate
investor ought to terminate your research rather quickly.  :-)

Jonathan Hoyle
Gene Codes Corporation


author: Vic Drastik

text:
"David" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
random data.

Yes, but a programme which can compress random data is certain to take an
infinite amount of time to run.

Your programme will not terminate if it really is capable of compressing
random data. That's the real problem with state-of-the-art random data
compression - algorithms which compress random data do not terminate, and
those which terminate do not compress. There do exist compression algorithms
which both terminate and compress random data, but they have the slight
drawback that the decompressed data is somewhat garbled and no-one is able
to find a way to ungarble it.

Vic


author: Phil Carmody

text:
Non, ce n'est pas possible.

[email] (David) writes:

Arrï¿½tez-vous tout de suite.

Malheureusement, ca ne serais pas facile.

Phil


text:
Actually, it will take zero time to do it, since it can't be done.

Do you really believe in this nonsense, or are you just feeding the trolls?

Jonathan Hoyle
Gene Codes Corporation


author: Ray

text:
"Vic Drastik" <[email]> wrote in message news:<X52Pb.19465$[email]>...

May u show us examples of unstopable random data compressor algorithm
and ones that is stoppable but garble the data ?

Regards,
Ray


text:
Phil Carmody <[email]> wrote in message news:<[email]>...

ok.. pls tell me ur idea...

Regards,
Ray


text:
and
algorithms
able
subject.

The only reason people who understand how compression works reply to
messages in threads like this one is for a laugh. I thought of something
funny so I wrote it - that is, the above idea is not serious, just a jest.

But, yes, some years ago I did come up with a compression idea that can
compress anything, even random data. It was based on the smoking hobo puzzle
i.e. a hobo scrounges for cigarette butts and when he has 5, he puts them
into a cigarette paper, thus making a cigarette. One day he finds 25 butts.
Question : how many cigarettes does he smoke that day? The knee-jerk answer
is 25/5 = 5, but the real answer is 6, because each cigarette he makes ends
up as a butt, therefore he has 5 butts left, from which he can make one more
cigarette. Changing butts to bits, you can similarly design a compression
scheme which compresses each group of 32 bits into 30, leaving 2 over. When
you have 16 leftover groups of 2, this makes another 32-bit word, which you
can compress recursively. Of course, it all goes wrong when you decompress,
as you no doubt knew it would :-)

Vic


text:
[email] (Ray) writes:

My idea is that you are an illiterate fool.

Phil


author: Marco Schmidt

text:
Ray:

It seems like Phil is not a believer in random data compression.

David seems to want to discuss his ideas by mail only. Which I can
only support. This group has seen its share of fruitless discussion /
name calling on that topic.

Regards,
Marco


text:
"Vic Drastik" <[email]> wrote in message news:<HqEPb.22531$[email]>...

Totally agree,

the problem is apart of me totally agree with counting argument, but
the other part from me want something greater, want to break the
entropy limit. I think I need to see a doctor for such mental problem.
lol

I had try a few "random compressor" but the last few code of mine is
really funny, I had increase the entropy for every run on the previous
data. The process is reversible but every time I run on the previous
data, shows that
entropy increase in resulted file(linear increase). This is 180 degree
from what I want.

I know is in vain to try again and again and again... but my mind seem
dun want to stop. Anyway while since I still have some spare time. I
guess I will try a bit more, after all... 90% of life is worthless (I
just need to sacrify time for watching TV).

Regards,
Ray


text:
Phil Carmody <[email]> wrote in message news:<[email]>...

ok.. It is true. but how did u know ?

Regards,
Ray
- There is a millions possibility to a fool's mind, but there arent ANY for
  a proffesional.


subject: inter-communication between modules in different slot.??

text:
Hi,

I have a Catalyst6506 cisco switch and two 10GB modules installed in
the slot 1 and slot 2 in the switch. Each 10GB module has 4 ports. If I
want to commnication between one port in on module to
 another port in another moudle, how do I make this kind of
communication work without linking two modules with cables?
Is there a way to do this with setup/configuration? I configure
the ports on both module as switch port (layer 2).

Thanks in advance!

Frank


subject: Re: inter-communication between modules in different slot.??

text:
I read about this the other day. CCNP looms:(

The use of bridge groups may result in software
switching and is discouraged on catalyst "switches".
BTW There is something called fallback bridging.

On the 6500 ports can either be routed ports or "switchports". IIRC
on the 6500 the default is routed AND shutdown.

You will need to issue the commands "switchport", "switchport
mode access" and "no shut", I would guess,
on each interface. Unless you want trunks in which case
miss out the "switchport mode access" bit.

Think I will pass my CCNP switching bit?

Q: What's the difference between a switch and a router.
A: One is stamped "Catalyst", the other isn't.


author: Walter Roberson

text:
In article <[email]>,
 <[email]> wrote:
:I have a Catalyst6506 cisco switch and two 10GB modules installed in
:the slot 1 and slot 2 in the switch. Each 10GB module has 4 ports. If I
:want to commnication between one port in on module to
: another port in another moudle, how do I make this kind of
:communication work without linking two modules with cables?

It should happen automatically if the two are members of the same
VLAN or if the two ports are configured for routing.

:Is there a way to do this with setup/configuration? I configure
:the ports on both module as switch port (layer 2).

It sounds to me as if what you want to do is configure them to be
part of the same bridge-group .


text:
Actually, they both belong to default vlan id 1, but they couldn't
communicate each other.


text:
In article <[email]>,
 <[email]> wrote:
:Actually, they both belong to default vlan id 1, but they couldn't
:communicate each other.

You should quote for context.

Two layer 2 ports that are part of the same vlan will not communicate
with each other unless they are part of the same bridge group.