text:
Sid9 wrote:

Which aint nothing like the Obamacare insurance company gravy train.

Maybe we should end the Democrat raid on the treasury at the same time?


author: Jeff M

subject:
Re: Up to HALF in U.S. have pre-existing conditions..which mean half
 of the Country WANTS Obamacare

text:
On 1/20/2011 3:02 PM, Scout wrote:

Book is probably mistaken in his analysis of the costs, and the Heritage
Foundation is, in any case, a highly partisan and suspect source in a
largely partisan debate.  see, e.g.,
http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2009/07/does_medicare_a.html.

Moreover, Medicare HMO's aren't doing a good job for either the patients
or the taxpayers.

"The privatization of the Medicare program, shifting seniors into
for-profit HMOs, has led to a new series of problems, notably increasing
costs (6% higher per beneficiary in an HMO) and bureaucracy in the
Medicare program, and a troubling rise in quality and access problems.

According to the Health Care Financing Administration, Medicare lost $2
billion on HMOs in 1996 alone due to selective enrollment of healthier
seniors. A 1996 Physician Payment Review Commission Study of Medicare
HMO enrollees between 1989 and 1994 confirmed previous studies showing
selective enrollment, finding that HMOs enroll healthy seniors with only
63% of average Medicare costs prior to enrollment. The study also found
that patients who disenrolled from Medicare HMOs had 60% higher health
care costs -- a sign of the Medicare HMO "revolving door," where the
"healthy go in, and the sick go out."

Other disturbing evidence from privatization is the rise in bureaucracy.
The latest HCFA data show that administrative costs for beneficiaries in
HMOs have skyrocketed to 9.1% while traditional Medicare's
administrative costs are 2%.

Research also shows that the elderly, chronically ill, and poor do worse
under managed care. A four year study of 2,235 patients in three cities
with hypertension, diabetes, recent MI, congestive heart failure, or
depression published in the Journal of the American Medical Association
found that patients who were elderly were almost twice as likely to
decline in physical health in an HMO than in traditional Medicare.

Medicare HMO enrollees are also, according to the Physician Payment
Review Commission, three times more likely to report access to care
problems as those in fee-for-service. "
http://thomas.loc.gov/medicare/robinstest.html


author: lee woollett

subject: ovulation pain

text:
Hi all, i was just wondering if anyone experienced this, i have never felt
anything similar to this but the last 2 months i have had 2 days of tummy
pain which was hard to relieve,  then 2 1/2 weeks later i came on, i just
thought i would see if anyone had this kind of pain, seems really wierd just
to start at 20 years old :s

By the way if it was me ovulating how close to the pain would i need to do
the deed to get preg, sorry but not too sure on this one,

Thanks in advance

Jen & Kira (13 months)
TTC#2


author: Elitsirk

subject: Re: ovulation pain

text:
I have ovulation pain nearly every month.  I used to in my teens also,
but (obviously) did not for the 8 years I was on BCP's.  Mine usually
just lasts a couple of hours, and is different but similar intensity
to regular menstrual cramps.  Mine seems to be a sort of sharp pain
down by the pelvic bone (almost like sharp gas pains, but not quite).
I used to think I was the only one who could feel when they ovulated,
but since reading up on TTC, I guess it's pretty common.

I think my pain comes eihter right as I ovulate or leading up to it.
I chart basal body temperatures also, and have found that my
temperature takes a full day to rise after the cramp.  I have begun to
think that the cramp signals the actual ovulation, and that my body
just takes a day or so to respond to the progesterone.

As for when to BD (baby dance :)), I think the idea is as often as
possible (daily or every other day) for 5-7 days leading up to
ovulation, plus the day of and after.  Charting temps or using OPKs
(ovulation predictor kits) can help you figure out when that will be
during a given month.

But then, maybe I'm not the best for giving advice, since DH and I are
still TTC #1 (only 4 cycles so far, though) :)

Good luck!
--Elit.

"lee woollett" <[email]> wrote in message news:<dYMzb.12699$[email]>...


author: Spectre

subject: Re: ovulation pain

text:
"lee woollett" <[email]> wrote in message
news:dYMzb.12699$[email]...
just

My ovulation pain can be quite intense.  It started in my early 29's and I'm
now 33.  Since my first pregnancy though I have aches/pains throughout my
cycle.  Through charting I distinguished which ones were directly related to
ovulating, and what where 'other pains'.  Charting can help greatly in
understanding your cycle.

I would also recommend a book, and Taking Charge of Your Fertility is one of
the most popular.  This and charting can help you understand how your body
is working.


author: Ilse Witch

subject: Re: ovulation pain

text:
lee woollett wrote:

I've had it since AF returned after I delivered DS. Never had
it before... As far as I know, it's quite common.

The ovum survives about 24h, but I am not sure exactly when the pain
occurs. For me, I feel a numb pain for an entire day. Others feel a
sharp sting at the exact moment of ovulation. If that's what you have,
you'd have about a day.

If you want to read more about this, I strongly recommend reading
Taking Charge of Your Fertility. It's a great book on how your
body works, how to optimize TTC and monitor your fertility.


author: Welches

subject: Re: ovulation pain

text:
I'm
to
do
of
Hi! Spectre!
I've been thinking about you. How are you?
Debbie


subject: Re: ovulation pain

text:
"Welches" <[email]> wrote in message
news:GeLAb.1724$[email]...

Hey!!

I'm doing ok.  A lot of life changes recently, hopefully turning out for the
better.  I always think of you guys here.  I still see names I recognize,
but a lot of new ones!  Yay!  How are you?


author: [redacted]

subject: Re: dangerous bridges - Tappan Zee could be next

text:
On Aug 7, 4:20 pm, General Kireiko <[email]> wrote:

Lets just take the free bridges in NYC as a for instance.

All of them require intensive maintainence.  The money coming in is
not enough.  Now you might suggest tolling them, but I have my doubts
that is it is practical.  Raising the gas tax to a realistic level is
the most practical system.

Randy


text:
On Aug 12, 11:16 am, "Joe the Aroma" <[email]> wrote:

What exactly is a fortune?  What exactly counts as "burning down all
over the place"?  Seems to be me we spend a lot on the fire department
and yet houses. indeed whole blocks, burn down all the time.

Exactly where is the line between it being cost-effective or not?  I
need something more than just vague words.

So if they spend a fortune and there are no escapes it is ok?  How
about repeat offenders after release?  How about internal riots?  How
does the internal mix of prisoners (hard core vs. light) affect
budgeting--would you budget the same for a maximum security prison vs.
minimum security?

The point is that measuring cost effectiveness in public service is
not easy.  There are many different kinds of variables that are hard
to pin down, as you've proven.

You've proven that coming up with objective monetary yardsticks for
various public services is very hard to do.

Exactly what _credible_ alternative viewpoints are those?  Exactly
which posters are "blinded by their love"?

NO ONE is suggesting running a large train with only one person is
efficient.

That's a strawman of your own creation.  Let us know when you want to
come back to reality and talk about individual trains with over 1,000
people on them, or a system that carries many MILLIONS of people.

Your posts indicate you have no idea what efficiency or effectiveness
are or how to apply them to public service.  Now that your ignorance
is shown, you resort to rudeness to make you points.

Now tell us why you should have any credibility, Mr. Loon Man?

So why you summarize or restate your argument--being more quantitative
this time with hard numbers or at least boundaries (more than merely
"a lot")!


author: Clark F Morris

text:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:11:53 -0700, [email] wrote:

Huh.  A large number of rail transit systems and mainline rail systems
are OPO (only a train operator) with no one else required to be on
board.  Many freight operations have only an engineer on board.


author: george conklin

text:
<[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Yeh, yeh, yeh.  Therefore down with roads and up with Amtrak?  Why don't you
give it up?  Passenger train travel is the least cost-effective mode of
moving humans.  It is very cost-effective in moving freight.


subject: By Ian Ayres. A Separate Crime of Reckless Sex

text:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=581663

IAN AYRES
Yale Law School; Yale School of Management
http://www.law.yale.edu/outside/html/faculty/iayers/profile.htm

KATHARINE K. BAKER
Illinois Institute of Technology
http://www.kentlaw.edu/faculty/baker_bio.html

August 24, 2004
Yale Law School, Public Law Working Paper No. 80

Abstract:

This article attempts to make progress on both the problems of
sexually transmitted disease and acquaintance rape by proposing a new
crime of reckless sexual conduct.

A defendant would be guilty of reckless sexual conduct if, in a first
sexual encounter with another particular person, the defendant had
sexual intercourse without using a condom.

Consent to unprotected intercourse would be an affirmative defense, to
be established by the defendant with a preponderance of the evidence.

As an empirical matter, first-encounter unprotected sex greatly
increases the epidemiological force of sexually transmitted disease
and a substantial proportion of acquaintance rape occurs in
unprotected first encounters.

The new law, by increasing condom use and the quality of communication
in first sexual encounters, can reduce the spread of sexually
transmitted disease and decrease the incidence of acquaintance rape.

Keywords: aquaintance rape, sexually transmitted disease, criminal law

JEL Classifications: K14
Working Paper Series
Abstract has been viewed 1572 times

Contact Information for IAN AYRES (Contact Author)
http://www.law.yale.edu/outside/html/faculty/iayers/profile.htm
Email address for IAN AYRES
Yale Law School
P.O. Box 208215
New Haven , CT 06520-8215
United States
203-432-7101 (Phone)
203-432-2592 (Fax)

Yale School of Management
135 Prospect Street
P.O. Box 208200
New Haven , CT 06520-8200
United States

Contact Information for KATHARINE K. BAKER
http://www.kentlaw.edu/faculty/baker_bio.html
Email address for KATHARINE K. BAKER
Illinois Institute of Technology
Stuart Graduate School of Business
565 W. Adams St.
Chicago , IL 60661
United States
312-906-5391 (Phone)
312-906-5280 (Fax)

Suggested Citation

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"A Separate Crime of Reckless Sex" (August 24, 2004).
Yale Law School, Public Law Working Paper No. 80.
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author: Alex

subject: Re: By Ian Ayres. A Separate Crime of Reckless Sex

text:
An actual law, instead of just randomly prosecuting
straight black guys who have sex with white women?

http://www.komotv.com/stories/33866.htm

This is just an attempt to criminalise sex. There is a
reason why there are so few prosecutions for passing
on an std, and why courts often have to reach back
hundreds of years to find legislation to prosecute under.

Alex

<[email]> schreef in bericht
news:[email]...


author: PaulKing

text:
This garbage flies in the face of all the 138 studies that have showed that
condoms "are no proven protection against most std's".

It is an insane idea designed as a first step to making sex outside
wedlock illigal.

This nonsense is really going too far.


author: GMCarter

text:
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:02:24 -0500, "PaulKing"
<[email]> wrote:

LOL Like the latest spate of crap you posted here, this is an outright
lie. The original article said nothing of the sort.

You appear to want to not only justify fucking without a condom but
also justify OTHERS upon whom you prey and make money to fuck without
a condom.

You really are a sociopathic piece of shit, Mark.

		George M. Carter


author: David Canzi -- non-mailable address

text:
In article <[email]>,
PaulKing <[email]> wrote:

Since you have lectured us about logical fallacies before, perhaps
you would know: Is that a fallacy of composition?  What a meta-study
of 138 other studies shows can not be attributed to those 138 studies
individually.

<http://www.niaid.nih.gov/dmid/stds/condomreport.pdf>

The meta-study concluded that condoms are protective against HIV,
but evidence of effectiveness against other STDs is insufficient to
justify any conclusion because of inadequate methods used in some
of those 138 studies.  When you claim that 138 studies support you,
you are appealing to the authority of studies judged inadequate by
the very source from which your claim is derived.

Slippery slope.


author: LemonFrog

subject: Re: How do I get a bumper sticker and glue off metal?

text:
You can try a blow dryer, held as closely as you can to the bumper sticker
to help melt the glue a bit...that may work.. or try getting some of that
stuff you can buy at the store--think it's called "Gunk Off" or something.
Ask at Walmart's or KMart's... I believe they may carry something like this
in the grocery aisles as well.

Good Luck!
K. Sutton
http://workingfromhome.isawesome.net

Hey!  Want to save money on nearly everything you buy?
http://www.saveyourbucks.com/index.asp?ID=537


author: ConsumerBot

text:
"Kitchen27" <[email]> wrote:

"Goof-off" sold at any hardware store, Wal-mart, etc.


author: Dave C.

text:
I read somewhere that a hair dryer works great.  But if you've already
ripped off part of the bumper sticker leaving the icky mess behind, I'm not
sure what to do about that.  -Dave

Kitchen27 wrote:


author: Polar

text:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 19:44:59 GMT, "Kitchen27" <[email]>
wrote:

Nail polish remover/acetone?


author: tomcat

text:
"Kitchen27" wrote in message:

Peanut oil will dissolve the glue.  Alternately,
you can use cooking oil like Crisco or Wesson.

---
Tom Katz


author: SteveR

text:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 19:44:59 GMT, "Kitchen27" <[email]>
wrote:

87 octane unleaded usually works pretty well.  Cheap, too.

SteveR
s.r.r.2 a.t w.i.n.s.o.c.k.e.t d.o.t c.o.m


author: lynn bierman

text:
Use a blow dryer. Start on one corner and you'll be able to peel it off
easily.

On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Kitchen27 wrote:


text:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:41:17 -0700, women fainted and men gasped when
"LemonFrog" <[email]> casually remarked:

what has worked for me when I bought used cars (that the previous
owners though bumper stickers were "cool" to make their political
statements with), was to use a blow dryer to loosen the glue then peel
it off, followed by a good squirt of lighter fluid.  Let the lighter
fluid soak for about 2-3 minutes then wipe off with a rag or paper
towel.  Works very well and takes little elbow grease.

Now how dumb it is to even *put* bumper stickers on painted or chromed
surfaces is a totally separate argument. ;-)

cheers,

-aki

01 HD Dyna Wide Glide
85 700 Magna (sold)
85 V65 Magna (sold)
86 500 Shadow (sold)
sold! sold! sold!
AMA Lifemember...
DoD#0628...
HOG,MANS


author: Bruce

text:
"Dave C." <[email]> wrote in message
news:4R327.7284$[email]...
not

How about a plastic scrubber that you use for dishes to get rid of the bulk
remaining material.  Followup with a bug and tar remover to get rid of the
remaining adhesive?


author: Boron Elgar

text:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 15:36:39 -0700, Polar <[email]>
wrote:

Goo-Gone. You can get it at any hardware & most grocery stores.

Boron


author: Guy Noir - private eye

text:
I've used WD-40 myself. Spray some on and let set for a minute, then use a
razor blade or something similar to scrape off the residue.

cso.uiuc.edu!staff2.cso.uiuc.edu!lbierman

D.B. Young.      Team OS/2!
-->this message printed on recycled disk space<--
hurry, hurry! step right up! see the computers you used as a kid!
www.nothingtodo.org

Delete the obvious (Aolsucks) to reply.


text:
On Sat, 04 Aug 2001 13:55:14 GMT, [email] wrote:

[...]

The few "messages" that I send these days are scotch-taped inside
windows for easy removal and to avoid sabotage.

What a change from the Olde Days (70's) when I pasted a zillion
stickers on my  '61 Dodge Lancer [1] Looked like a hippie car.  Moi,
not a hippie.

[1] Respectful pause to mourn the Departed.  I owned so many classics;
didn't know they were; sold them cheap when they needed work.  Sob!


author: ameijers

text:
A metal bumper? They still make those? :^)

That Goof-Off stuff has worked pretty well for me. On chromed metal, about
any solvent should be pretty safe. (ie, carb cleaner.)

aem sends...
Bruce <[email]> wrote in message
news:QQ327.318506$[email]...
bulk


author: Jeff Miller

text:
Boron Elgar <[email]> wrote in
news:[email]:

I've found that goo-gone isn't as good as Goof Off, which others here have
recommended.


text:
Make sure you don't tape over the defroster stripes, if your current ride is
fancy enough to have that. When they get old, sometimes the stripes get
pretty fragile, and the tape can cause a break if it sticks too well. Scotch
tape is pretty safe, but I've seen stripes destroyed by college alam mater
stickers, parking stickers, etc.

aem sends...
Polar <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


author: [redacted]

text:
On Sat, 04 Aug 2001 11:35:51 -0700, women fainted and men gasped when
Polar <[email]> casually remarked:

,,,all of my stickers are either on the outside of my rear SUV's
windshield in the lower corners, or I use the plastic magnetic type
stickers from the inside.  Todays paint is water based so it's even
softer than older cars.  I've seen paint literally peel off bumpers
when the stickers were removed.

heh heh...brings back memories for sure.  Actually I used stickers
back then to hide the rust spots!  I had an old 67 Dodge Dart.  PINK!
Only because the white paint has faded and the *red* primer started to
show through.  Not enough stickers on the entire planet to hide *that*
puppy.

yeah, the sad part is that even back then (early 70's), the cars I
owned were considered classics....

-aki

01 HD Dyna Wide Glide
85 700 Magna (sold)
85 V65 Magna (sold)
86 500 Shadow (sold)
sold! sold! sold!
AMA Lifemember...
DoD#0628...
HOG,MANS


author: Gilligan

text:
In article <iR427.9934$[email]>,
[email] says...

and if that doesn't work, go into the automotive section and look for a
can of stuff called Bug and Tar remover. This stuff will remove anything
from your car without damaging the finish.


text:
On Sat, 04 Aug 2001 19:12:16 GMT, women fainted and men gasped when
"ameijers" <[email]> casually remarked:

...excellent point..
-aki

01 HD Dyna Wide Glide
85 700 Magna (sold)
85 V65 Magna (sold)
86 500 Shadow (sold)
sold! sold! sold!
AMA Lifemember...
DoD#0628...
HOG,MANS


author: Iuil

subject: Reason 324674 to bf

text:
DH is tiling the kitchen floor with BIL and FIL.  The dishwasher is sitting
in the middle of the dining room.  The steriliser is under a layer of dust.
I just about have access to the freezer and microwave.  I can't imagine
making up bottles in that chaos!

Jean


author: G&A&K

subject: Re: Reason 324674 to bf

text:
Don't you just LOVE renovating :)
Amanda

"Iuil" <[email]> wrote in message
news:lLAR9.753$[email]...
sitting
dust.


subject: Re: Reason 324674 to bf

text:
"G&A&K" <wrote

Renovating????

We moved in here two years ago, brand new hose and have been living with
concrete floors in the kitchen and utility since.  Worse, the tiles have
been sitting behind the kitchen door since July 200*1*!

Jean


author: Buzzy Bee

subject: Re: Reason 324674 to bf

text:
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:49:55 -0000, "Iuil" <[email]> wrote:
 but then again I might just have mucked up the snipping as usual!

And suddenly the Christmas break is an ideal time to do it!

I've just finished re-assembling the bathroom after a week of having
the contents in the hall.  I think I prefer the undercoat to the green
paint that preceded it, but I'm wondering when the actual paint will
go up...

I hope M & D manage to get your floor actually finished.

Megan
who has tiles that are ungrouted in the kitchen:  put up by some
previous tenant of this flat


subject: Re: Reason 324674 to bf

text:
"Buzzy Bee" wrote

Well, it is part of my Christmas present and bil is off work until Monday.

Of course, it took "accidentally" mentioning it in front of the pil to get
it done :-).

Jean


author: Gregg Schulemson

subject: NEW PB 100-180c batteries $29.95

text:
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180c series for $29.95 + $5.00 UPS ground shipping.  These batteries have
an on/off switch, power gauge, charging gauge and upto 4 times the charge
of an internal battery.  Visa and Mastercard accepted with no surcharge.

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author: elizabeth emerald

subject: FAO: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
i often see some posters with older babies say they are typing whilst
nursing at the keyboard (NAK). DS is now 9 months & breastfeeds for only a
few minutes at a time. i wouldn't have time to type much at all. i'm
wondering if you NAK with an older baby, how long are you nursing for? or
are you nursing to sleep? or......?


author: Mary

subject: Re: FAO: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
elizabeth emerald wrote:

Sproutkin often gives me lots of NAK time, especially before her nap,
when she'll nurse to sleep in my arms very peacefully.

Right now, on the other hand, she's standing, between my typing arms,
rocking her head back and forth and trying to point at the words as I
type them across the screen, while head-butting me, while doing a
tap-dance in my lap.  It's kind of an active computer session at the
moment. :)

Mary S.
mom to the blue-eyed Sproutkin, 14 months


author: Leslie

subject: Re: FAO: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
It only works for me to nurse to sleep.  If William is not serious about
nursing, he will start trying to get at the computer as soon as I come near it.

Leslie


author: Chookie

subject: Re: FAO: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
In article <bat5f3$39p5c$[email]>,
 "elizabeth emerald" <[email]> wrote:

In my case, he's almost invariably feeding to sleep, which can take 5-15
minutes, depending on how tired he is.  When he's not going to sleep, he
slurps briefly at each side -- because now, he's old enough to ask, and the
novelty hasn't worn off yet!


author: iphigenia

subject: Re: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
elizabeth emerald wrote:

Usually it's when he's nursing to sleep, but Gabe always has and still is
willing to nurse for as long as I'll let him. He's a big comfort-nursing
fan.

Anyway, I sit on my bed with my laptop and he lays next to me - sort of a
modified football hold.


author: badgirl

subject: Re: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
"elizabeth emerald" <[email]> wrote in message
news:bat5f3$39p5c$[email]...
whilst
only a
for? or

Nicolas is a year so I guess that puts me in the NAK with older baby
category ;P
Anyway, I let him nurse when he wants to. Sometimes that means I have
to stop what I'm doing because he wants to be in my lap and he is too
squirmy for me to try to do anything else at the same time. Quite
often we are nursing to sleep, but he likes to come for a *nip* quite
a bit too. He isn't walking yet, but he like to stand in front of my
chair and nurse while I am sitting. I do find it easier however to
just go lay on the couch of the bed and let him decide which position
he wants to be in...usually that's laying across me with his behind in
the air while he is face down across my chest.

Jen


author: A & L Lane

subject: Re: FAO: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
NAK my 16 month old is not easy because he wants to grab everything in
sight - it only works where he is going to sleep but resisting it.  Today he
woke early from his daytime sleep (I mucked up the transition from car to
bed and he woke up after only 15 minutes instead of his usual 60-90
minutes).  He has been quite crabby for the last 3 hours due to a molar
coming through on the bottom and feeling tired but refusing to go to sleep.
I am typing this message now and he has finally gone to sleep - a few more
minutes on my lap and I'll put him to bed (finally!).  I dont get much work
done on the computer while he is awake though - had the same problem last
time with ds1 which resulted in me needing 2 extensions before I finally
completed my Masters degree (before ds1 arrived, I foolishly thought that
babies slept for long periods because that's what all the books said - didnt
realise that the babies dont read the books!).

cheers
Leah
Mum to Patrick (nearly 6) and Angus (16 months)

"Chookie" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
a
or
the


author: Irene

subject: Re: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
"iphigenia" <[email]> wrote in message news:<FLrAa.1027282$S_4.1037393@rwcrnsc53>...
Even when there's the distraction of a computer at hand???  Wow...I
don't think I could have NAK'd since ds was about 6 months old!  (It's
a pain to log in from home, so I don't normally even try when he's
awake.)  Thomas thinks computers are just a wonderful toy for him to
bang on!  (We rarely give him access)

Irene
mom to Thomas 7/01


subject: Re: FAO: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
"A & L Lane" <lonewood @ telstra . com> wrote in message
news:yvWAa.44685$[email]...
didnt

i hear you! i try to work almost full-time from home while looking after DS.
what a challenge! it was so easy when he was just a newborn & would sleep in
the bassinette, but now.......... i am sooooo behind.


subject: Re: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
"Irene" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
news:<FLrAa.1027282$S_4.1037393@rwcrnsc53>...
is

that's what i was thinking too. put DS near the computer & he wants to bang
they keyboard forever.


subject: Re: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
Irene wrote:

It's out of his reach. He lays on my left side, I'm sitting cross-legged
leaning to the left, and the laptop's on my right side.

Anyway, he knows darn well he's not allowed to touch the computers, so he
usually only tries to do so when I'm not in the room : )


author: Dawn Lawson

subject: Re: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
elizabeth emerald wrote:

I have a piano...DS has a go at that most days.
But I DO think that keyboard designers have a serious flaw to consider in that
they put all the "important" keys (alt,ctl, capslock, enter) near the bottom and
bigger......constant adjustments to everything from font type to monitor
settings (you were all very very *tiny* for a while there......)

Dawn


subject: Re: NAK'ers with older babies

text:
Dawn Lawson wrote:

Oh, I *completely* agree!

We've got toddler software where all he has to do is hit any key, except, of
course, for the keys you mentioned which are most within reach. He's
particularly good at getting the Windows key despite all my attempts to
steer him toward the spacebar.

Oh, and there was the time where he managed to turn on the numlock on my
laptop (which involved him hitting Fn and F11 simultaneously - I'm still
surprised). It took me an hour to figure out why the keys on the right end
of the keyboard were suddenly producing numbers, I'm embarrassed to admit.


author: Adrian Leishman

subject: Credit Card Processing

text:
I am a web application developer in Jacksonville, Florida.  I mostly
do in-house web automation for larger businesses (inventory,
time-tracking, CRM, ect.).

Since times are a bit tight, I've branched out. Last month I got a
contract to "automate" a new adult site.  They want to take credit
card subscriptions.  They have a merchant account but currently do not
have the ability to process SSL pages.

Is there a reputable "gateway" Credit-Card processing company that is
not CCBILL (FTP Password is required.  This is a big security problem
IMO).  They want to send the user to a payment screen and have it sent
back to a success/failed page.

Any usefull information will be appreciated.

Adrian Leishman
http://www.AdrianLeishman.com
[email]


author: John Swords

subject: Re: Credit Card Processing

text:
Adrian,

I had a client ask about this last year and we came across
camwhores.com and stileproject.com that both were using GloBill
Systems.  Their web address is http://www.globill-systems.com/.

I can't endorse them or share any personal experiences, but these
third party billing services seem to be the best way to go.  I would
venture to guesss that  the fees are high on merchant accounts used
for online adult material because of chargebacks and disputes.

John

On 3 Feb 2004 01:49:29 GMT, [email] (Adrian Leishman)
wrote:


author: Adams-Blake Company

subject: Re: Credit Card Processing

text:
Adrian Leishman wrote:

You might look at www.plugnpay.com . I'm not quite sure what your problem with
CCBILL is or why FTP is even part of the picture.

For our JAYA service, we use Plug 'N Pay and it will post back to us all of
the user data. No magic here. Lots of services do that. Won't CCBILL post to
your client's site?

Maybe if you explain the situation in a bit more detail we can help you.

As for you working on an adult site, as long as you have no ethical or moral
problems with it than don't pay anyone else any attention. What I can't
figure out is that USA society has no problem letting their children watch
grusome murders on TV and play video games where violence is the norm, but
get all bent out of shape at them seeing one female breast on TV. BFD!!

Al Canton, President
Adams-Blake Company, Inc.
***
JAYA123 - the new web-based total-office system for the
small biz. Order entry, billing, bookkeeping, etc. for $14.95
a month. Everyone says "It's cool as a moose!!"
See why at:http://www.jaya123.com
***


author: Family Man

subject: Re: Credit Card Processing

text:
I wouldn't take the contract no matter
how tight times get. To work for
and Adult site is dropping down
rather than branching out.

You could advise them to do something
more meaningful and find a better service
to people. Branch elsewhere friend.

Go Well,
________________________________

Hank Ensing
AstuteChoices
New Zealand
[p] 07 829 8533
[f] 07 829 8100
[e] [email]
[w] www.AstuteChoices.com
________________________________
"Sharp decisions - Smart choices"

"Adrian Leishman" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


author: McWebber

subject: Re: Credit Card Processing

text:
"Family Man" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Many adult sites make a lot of money and are legal.

Sometimes you have to take the work that's available. Unless you're offering
him other employment.


subject: Re: Credit Card Processing

text:
"Family Man" <[email]> wrote in message
news:<[email]>...

This is not helpful at all.  I could say the same about anyone working
on a Democrat (US) site... or a FORD (love Chevy) site...  or a Pizza
Site (obese, lazy Americans should get out more)... or people imposing
their personal views on other people.

I'm only helping them with the User Database portion and hopefully the
Credit Card processing.  Aside from it being "immoral" I would love to
get Credit Card processing experience.

-Adrian Leishman
http://www.AdrianLeishman.com


author: "Ray Keller"

text:
Obama's tacky 'I Shot Bin Laden' ad has turned a military triumph into a
political disaster
By Tim Stanley

Barack Obama’s “I Shot Bin Laden!” ad might be the worst political move he’s
ever made. It tops the list because, unlike his many other foul-ups (50
percent structural youth unemployment, skyrocketing debt, supporting
post-birth abortion), this is a rare example of him getting something
completely right and then turning it into something horribly wrong. The man
is so politically tone deaf he makes Joe Biden look like Machiavelli.

The ad features Bill Clinton celebrating Obama’s decision to send in the
SEALs and kill Osama bin Laden on May 2, 2011. “Suppose the Navy Seals had
gone in there and it hadn't been bin Laden?” says Bill. “Suppose they'd been
captured or killed. The downside would have been horrible for him, but … he
took the harder and the more honourable path and the one that produced, in
my opinion, the best result.” A question then flashes up on the screen that
asks, “Which path would Mitt Romney have taken?” The ad reminds viewers that
Romney once opined that, “It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending
billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.” The implication is
obvious: Obama killed bin Laden and is a hero; Romney didn’t think it was
worth chasing the terrorist and is a girly-man unworthy of the presidency.

Obama deserves all the praise and glory for killing bin Laden; my only
regret about the episode is that I didn’t get a chance to pull the trigger
myself. And the Pres is wise to use the incident in his election campaign.
In the debates, he should answer every point that Romney makes about the
sluggish economy with, “Yeah, well I shot bin Laden!”

But Obama made a big mistake when he took an unreservedly good decision and
tried to spin it into an attack on Romney. For starters, no one seriously
thinks that Mitt Romney wouldn’t have greenlit the raid on bin Laden’s
compound – as Mitt said, “even Jimmy Carter would have given that order.”
Nor did the Republican think that capturing the terrorist wasn’t an
important job. Obama’s ad quotes Romney rather selectively. In the original
interview, he was asked, “Why haven't we caught bin Laden in your opinion?”
Mitt replied, “I think, I wouldn't want to over-concentrate on bin Laden.
He's one of many, many people who are involved in this global Jihadist
effort. He's by no means the only leader. It's a very diverse group – Hamas,
Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and of course different names
throughout the world. It's not worth moving heaven and earth and spending
billions of dollars just trying to catch one person… Global Jihad is not an
effort that is being populated by a handful or even a football stadium full
of people. It is – it involves millions of people and is going to require a
far more comprehensive strategy than a targeted approach for bin laden or a
few of his associates.” In other words, whilst the death of bin Laden would
be a tactical victory, it is only one small part of the wider strategy to
defeat Islamic terrorism. Mitt's nuanced view was confirmed by the fact that
the War on Terror didn’t end the day bin Laden died.

more...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100154555/obamas-tacky-i-shot-bin-laden-ad-has-turned-a-military-triumph-into-a-political-disaster/


author: Shall not be infringed

subject: Re: Want excuses?...Vote Republican......Want results?...Vote Obama.

text:
On Friday, May 4, 2012 1:37:47 PM UTC-4, Winston_Smith wrote:

He's a tool.  He's one of many.

I'm surprised that he's not learning how to fly a plane, everything except the landing part.


text:
On Friday, May 4, 2012 9:59:44 AM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:

Keep changing them out like dirty underwear.


text:
On May 4, 12:37 pm, Winston_Smith <[email]> wrote:

LOL...look carefully...the joke is about a Republican.

Odd that you would consider it to be a "gay" joke...and very
insightful of your thinking

TMT


author: JohnJohnsn

text:
On May 3, 7:41 pm, Too_Many_Tools_and_Too_Few_Brains
<[email]> wrote:
You already have two great bumper snickers, Fool:

http://tinyurl.com/I-Voted-Obama-2008

http://tinyurl.com/Obama-Gone-2013

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist you'll
have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not stupid!"

Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) - a system of government where the
least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing,
and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or
succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the
confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
See: Obama Administration, 2009-2013

"Sunday, January 20th, 2013 - The End of an Error"

Obama Countdown Clock
http://tinyurl.com/Obama-is-GONE


text:
On May 3, 10:42 pm, Winston_Smith <[email]> wrote:

Well upon thinking about it I would think that you could talk Larry
Craig into giving you tap dancing lessons...I hear he specializes in
the wide stance GOP version.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

TMT


text:
On May 3, 7:23 pm, ABM - Anyone But a Mormon <[email]> wrote:

I know...we are going to get bumper stickers made with it.

TMT


text:
On May 3, 7:07 pm, Winston_Smith <[email]> wrote:

LOL...Winston sounding like the closet conservative he really is.

Getting crowded in that closet with Larry Craig?

TMT


author: Richard Steel

text:
On May 3, 5:41 pm, Too_Many_Tools <[email]> wrote:
The good folks at the RNC have released a video highlighting President
Obama’s penchant for offering excuse after excuse rather take
responsibility for his policy failures.

http://youtu.be/KVDs9mSG3AA

This is one more example of Obama saying one thing while doing another
or trying to have things both ways. He says he is “not gonna make
excuses,” but continues to do so.

As  Salena Zito put it in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Obama has
blamed the stagnant economy on ATMs, ditches, slurpees, corporate-jet
owners, the TEA Party, Republicans, Japan’s earthquake, the Arab
spring, the Arab summer, George Bush, and Wall Street  (Salena Zito,
“Battlegrounds Of Resentment,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review 8/28/11):

    Obama Blamed ATMs And Airport Kiosks For His Failure To Create
Jobs. “[T]here are some structural issues with our economy, where a
lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient, with a
lot fewer workers. You see it when you go to the bank and use an ATM —
you don’t go to a bank teller. Or you go to the airport, and you’re
using a kiosk, instead of checking in at the gate.”  (NBC’s “Today,”
6/14/11)
    Obama: The Republicans Are “Sipping On A Slurpee” And “Kicking
Dirt” Onto Democrats. OBAMA: “And we’ve been pushing that car, pushing
it, pushing it, pushing it.  The whole time the Republicans have been
standing on the sidelines.  They’ve been looking down, fanning
themselves, sipping on a Slurpee.  Kicking dirt down into the ditch.
Kicking dirt in our faces.  But we kept on pushing” (President Barack
Obama, Remarks, Minneapolis, MN 10/23/10)
    Obama Tried To Blame The Japanese Earthquake And Arab Spring For
Poor Economic Numbers. OBAMA: “Let me start by saying a few words
about our economy.  There is no doubt this has been a tumultuous
year.  We’ve weathered the Arab Spring’s effect on oil and gas prices,
the Japanese earthquake and tsunami’s effect on supply chains, the
extraordinary economic uncertainty in Europe.  And recently, markets
around the globe have taken a bumpy ride.” (President Barack Obama,
Remarks, Washington, D.C., 8/5/11)
    Obama Says He “Inherited” A Bad Economy. “Lately, Obama and his
aides have taken to saying that they ‘inherited’ a troubled economy, a
more subtle reference to the past at a time that many voters
increasingly see Obama as being part of the problem.” (Peter Wallsten,
“Obama: Bush Put Us In A Hole,” The Washington Post, 8/30/11)
    Obama: Problems In Europe “Wash Over Into Our Shores.” “But the
truth of the matter is, is that we now live in a global economy where
everything is interconnected, and that means that when you have
problems in Europe and in Spain and in Italy and in Greece, those
problems wash over into our shores.” (President Barack Obama, Remarks
by the President at a DNC Event in Washington, DC, 8/8/11)

Obama has also blamed Congress even though for the first two years of
the Obama presidency the Obamacrats controlled Congress:

     Obama Blame’s Congress. OBAMA: “Well, look, we anticipated that
the recovery was slowing. The economy is still growing, but it’s not
growing as fast as it needs to.  I’ve got things right now before
Congress that we should move immediately. And I said so before I went
on vacation and I’ll keep on saying it now that I’m back. We should be
passing legislation that helps small businesses get credit.” (NBC’s
“Nightly News” 8/29/10)
     Obama Got Almost Everything He Wanted Out Of The Democrat-
Controlled Congress.  “He passed $830 billion in stimulus, $3 billion
for cash for clunkers, $30 billion in small business loans, $30
billion for mortgage modification, the GM-Chrysler bailouts,
ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank, credit card price controls, Build America
Bonds, jobless benefits for a record 99 weeks, and more. The only
priorities that a Democratic Congress blocked were cap-and-tax and
union card check, and both of those would have further damaged growth
and jobs. Even last December, after Republicans had retaken the House,
Mr. Obama won his one-year payroll tax cut, more jobless benefits and
most of what he wanted.” (Editorial, “The Latest Jobs Plan,” The Wall
Street Journal, 9/9/11)
    “Mr. Obama Has Been The Least Obstructed President Since LBJ In
1965 Or FDR In 1933, Which Is How We Got Here.” “The larger political
subtext of Mr. Obama’s speech is that if Congress doesn’t pass his
plan, he’ll then campaign against Republicans as obstructionist. Thus
his speech mantra that Congress should ‘pass it right away.’ This
ignores that Mr. Obama has been the least obstructed President since
LBJ in 1965 or FDR in 1933, which is how we got here.” (Editorial,
“The Latest Jobs Plan,” The Wall Street Journal, 9/9/11)

Another Obama excuse is his claim he didn’t know how bad the economy
was even though he said it was historic:

    President Obama Claims “We Didn’t Know How Bad It Was.” “President
Barack Obama said Tuesday he wishes he knew the full extent of the
economic crisis when he took office, if only so he could have let
Americans know just how tough the coming years would be. ‘I think we
understood that it was bad, but we didn’t know how bad it was,’ Obama
said in an interview with KIRO in Seattle. ‘I think I could have
prepared the American people for how bad this was going to be, had we
had a sense of that.’” (Jennifer Epstein, “Barack Obama On Economic
Crisis: ‘We Didn’t Know How Bad It Was,” Politico’s “44″, 12/13/11)
    Obama: The Economic “Mess Has Been Bigger Than I Think A Lot Of
People Anticipated At The Time.” CNN’S WOLF BLITZER: “When you took
office, you said if I don’t have this done in three years then it’s
going to be a one-term proposition, meaning you’re going to be a one
term president. Do you remember that?” OBAMA: “Well, here’s what I
remember. When I came into office, I knew I was going to have a big
mess to clean up. And frankly, the mess has been bigger than I think a
lot of people anticipated at the time.” (CNN’s “The Situation Room,”
8/16/11)
    September 2008: Obama: “We Are Going Through The Worst Financial
Crisis Since The Great Depression.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks During
First Presidential Debate, Oxford, MS, 9/26/08)
    October 2008: Obama: “We Meet Here At A Time Of Great Uncertainty.
Our Economy Is In Crisis.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks, La Crosse, WI,
10/1/08)
    November 2008: Obama: “We Are Facing An Economic Crisis Of
Historic Proportions.” (President-Elect Barack Obama, Remarks
Announcing Members Of The Economic Team, Chicago, IL, 11/24/08)
    A 2008 Report By Obama Advisor Larry Summers Described The
Economic Crisis As “Grim And Deteriorating Rapidly” And Predicted
America Could Lose 4 Million More Jobs Within The Year. “The initial
debate was framed by a fifty-seven-page memo to the President-elect,
dated December 15, 2008, written by Larry Summers, his incoming
director of the National Economic Council. Marked ‘Sensitive and
Confidential,’ the document, which has never been made public,
presents Obama with the scale of the crisis. ‘The economic outlook is
grim and deteriorating rapidly,’ it said. The U.S. economy had lost
two million jobs that year; without a government response, it would
lose four million more in the next year. Unemployment would rise above
nine per cent unless a significant stimulus plan was passed. The
estimates were getting worse by the day.” (Ryan Lizza, “The Obama
Memos,” The New Yorker, 1/30/12)

Obama has made at least two attempts to accept responsibility. Three
years ago, Obama appeared on NBC’s “Today” show and and made his
infamous “one-term proposition” prediction:

    “I will be held accountable. You know, I’ve got four years. … A
year from now, I think people are gonna see that we’re starting to
make some progress, but there’s still gonna be some pain out there. If
I don’t this done in three years, then there’s gonna be a one-term
proposition.”

In celebration the three-year anniversary of the Obama “one-term
proposition” day, the RNC produced a video cataloguing Democrat
leaders’ descriptions of the poor economy under President Obama’s
failed leadership.You can watch the “How Democrats Describe the Obama
Economy” video here.
And Obama even admits that we are not better off than we were four
years ago — inviting comparisons to the malaise of Jimmy Carter’s
failed presidency.
It’s way past time for Obama to stop the excuses and accept
responsibility for his failed policies.

http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2012/04/16/obama-excuses-rather-than-responsibility-for-his-failed-policies/


text:
On May 3, 6:36 pm, Too_Many_Tools <[email]> wrote:

Larry Craig?  You're going to six year for a "scandal?"

How crowded is the Democrat closet, what with the 300 dead bodies from
Fast and Furious?


subject: Want excuses?...Vote Obama

text:
For the Republicans, yes.  Want to revisit obama's excuses?

    “I’m not gonna make any excuses.” — Barack Obama

The good folks at the RNC have released a video highlighting President
Obama’s penchant for offering excuse after excuse rather take
responsibility for his policy failures.

http://youtu.be/KVDs9mSG3AA

This is one more example of Obama saying one thing while doing another
or trying to have things both ways. He says he is “not gonna make
excuses,” but continues to do so.

As  Salena Zito put it in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Obama has
blamed the stagnant economy on ATMs, ditches, slurpees, corporate-jet
owners, the TEA Party, Republicans, Japan’s earthquake, the Arab
spring, the Arab summer, George Bush, and Wall Street  (Salena Zito,
“Battlegrounds Of Resentment,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review 8/28/11):

    Obama Blamed ATMs And Airport Kiosks For His Failure To Create
Jobs. “[T]here are some structural issues with our economy, where a
lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient, with a
lot fewer workers. You see it when you go to the bank and use an ATM —
you don’t go to a bank teller. Or you go to the airport, and you’re
using a kiosk, instead of checking in at the gate.”  (NBC’s “Today,”
6/14/11)
    Obama: The Republicans Are “Sipping On A Slurpee” And “Kicking
Dirt” Onto Democrats. OBAMA: “And we’ve been pushing that car, pushing
it, pushing it, pushing it.  The whole time the Republicans have been
standing on the sidelines.  They’ve been looking down, fanning
themselves, sipping on a Slurpee.  Kicking dirt down into the ditch.
Kicking dirt in our faces.  But we kept on pushing” (President Barack
Obama, Remarks, Minneapolis, MN 10/23/10)
    Obama Tried To Blame The Japanese Earthquake And Arab Spring For
Poor Economic Numbers. OBAMA: “Let me start by saying a few words
about our economy.  There is no doubt this has been a tumultuous
year.  We’ve weathered the Arab Spring’s effect on oil and gas prices,
the Japanese earthquake and tsunami’s effect on supply chains, the
extraordinary economic uncertainty in Europe.  And recently, markets
around the globe have taken a bumpy ride.” (President Barack Obama,
Remarks, Washington, D.C., 8/5/11)
    Obama Says He “Inherited” A Bad Economy. “Lately, Obama and his
aides have taken to saying that they ‘inherited’ a troubled economy, a
more subtle reference to the past at a time that many voters
increasingly see Obama as being part of the problem.” (Peter Wallsten,
“Obama: Bush Put Us In A Hole,” The Washington Post, 8/30/11)
    Obama: Problems In Europe “Wash Over Into Our Shores.” “But the
truth of the matter is, is that we now live in a global economy where
everything is interconnected, and that means that when you have
problems in Europe and in Spain and in Italy and in Greece, those
problems wash over into our shores.” (President Barack Obama, Remarks
by the President at a DNC Event in Washington, DC, 8/8/11)

Obama has also blamed Congress even though for the first two years of
the Obama presidency the Obamacrats controlled Congress:

     Obama Blame’s Congress. OBAMA: “Well, look, we anticipated that
the recovery was slowing. The economy is still growing, but it’s not
growing as fast as it needs to.  I’ve got things right now before
Congress that we should move immediately. And I said so before I went
on vacation and I’ll keep on saying it now that I’m back. We should be
passing legislation that helps small businesses get credit.” (NBC’s
“Nightly News” 8/29/10)
     Obama Got Almost Everything He Wanted Out Of The Democrat-
Controlled Congress.  “He passed $830 billion in stimulus, $3 billion
for cash for clunkers, $30 billion in small business loans, $30
billion for mortgage modification, the GM-Chrysler bailouts,
ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank, credit card price controls, Build America
Bonds, jobless benefits for a record 99 weeks, and more. The only
priorities that a Democratic Congress blocked were cap-and-tax and
union card check, and both of those would have further damaged growth
and jobs. Even last December, after Republicans had retaken the House,
Mr. Obama won his one-year payroll tax cut, more jobless benefits and
most of what he wanted.” (Editorial, “The Latest Jobs Plan,” The Wall
Street Journal, 9/9/11)
    “Mr. Obama Has Been The Least Obstructed President Since LBJ In
1965 Or FDR In 1933, Which Is How We Got Here.” “The larger political
subtext of Mr. Obama’s speech is that if Congress doesn’t pass his
plan, he’ll then campaign against Republicans as obstructionist. Thus
his speech mantra that Congress should ‘pass it right away.’ This
ignores that Mr. Obama has been the least obstructed President since
LBJ in 1965 or FDR in 1933, which is how we got here.” (Editorial,
“The Latest Jobs Plan,” The Wall Street Journal, 9/9/11)

Another Obama excuse is his claim he didn’t know how bad the economy
was even though he said it was historic:

    President Obama Claims “We Didn’t Know How Bad It Was.” “President
Barack Obama said Tuesday he wishes he knew the full extent of the
economic crisis when he took office, if only so he could have let
Americans know just how tough the coming years would be. ‘I think we
understood that it was bad, but we didn’t know how bad it was,’ Obama
said in an interview with KIRO in Seattle. ‘I think I could have
prepared the American people for how bad this was going to be, had we
had a sense of that.’” (Jennifer Epstein, “Barack Obama On Economic
Crisis: ‘We Didn’t Know How Bad It Was,” Politico’s “44″, 12/13/11)
    Obama: The Economic “Mess Has Been Bigger Than I Think A Lot Of
People Anticipated At The Time.” CNN’S WOLF BLITZER: “When you took
office, you said if I don’t have this done in three years then it’s
going to be a one-term proposition, meaning you’re going to be a one
term president. Do you remember that?” OBAMA: “Well, here’s what I
remember. When I came into office, I knew I was going to have a big
mess to clean up. And frankly, the mess has been bigger than I think a
lot of people anticipated at the time.” (CNN’s “The Situation Room,”
8/16/11)
    September 2008: Obama: “We Are Going Through The Worst Financial
Crisis Since The Great Depression.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks During
First Presidential Debate, Oxford, MS, 9/26/08)
    October 2008: Obama: “We Meet Here At A Time Of Great Uncertainty.
Our Economy Is In Crisis.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks, La Crosse, WI,
10/1/08)
    November 2008: Obama: “We Are Facing An Economic Crisis Of
Historic Proportions.” (President-Elect Barack Obama, Remarks
Announcing Members Of The Economic Team, Chicago, IL, 11/24/08)
    A 2008 Report By Obama Advisor Larry Summers Described The
Economic Crisis As “Grim And Deteriorating Rapidly” And Predicted
America Could Lose 4 Million More Jobs Within The Year. “The initial
debate was framed by a fifty-seven-page memo to the President-elect,
dated December 15, 2008, written by Larry Summers, his incoming
director of the National Economic Council. Marked ‘Sensitive and
Confidential,’ the document, which has never been made public,
presents Obama with the scale of the crisis. ‘The economic outlook is
grim and deteriorating rapidly,’ it said. The U.S. economy had lost
two million jobs that year; without a government response, it would
lose four million more in the next year. Unemployment would rise above
nine per cent unless a significant stimulus plan was passed. The
estimates were getting worse by the day.” (Ryan Lizza, “The Obama
Memos,” The New Yorker, 1/30/12)

Obama has made at least two attempts to accept responsibility. Three
years ago, Obama appeared on NBC’s “Today” show and and made his
infamous “one-term proposition” prediction:

    “I will be held accountable. You know, I’ve got four years. … A
year from now, I think people are gonna see that we’re starting to
make some progress, but there’s still gonna be some pain out there. If
I don’t this done in three years, then there’s gonna be a one-term
proposition.”

In celebration the three-year anniversary of the Obama “one-term
proposition” day, the RNC produced a video cataloguing Democrat
leaders’ descriptions of the poor economy under President Obama’s
failed leadership.You can watch the “How Democrats Describe the Obama
Economy” video here.
And Obama even admits that we are not better off than we were four
years ago — inviting comparisons to the malaise of Jimmy Carter’s
failed presidency.
It’s way past time for Obama to stop the excuses and accept
responsibility for his failed policies.

http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2012/04/16/obama-excuses-rather-than-responsibility-for-his-failed-policies/


author: ABM - Anyone But a Mormon

subject:
Re: Obama's tacky 'I Shot Bin Laden' ad has turned a military triumph
 into a political disaster

text:
On 5/3/2012 2:49 PM, Ray Keller wrote:

If Shrub would have looked in his father XMAS card mailing list,
he could have located OBL and killed him without ever having to
go to Iraq - so what is your point ?

Are the Loons only relying on the Mexican born Polygamist anchor baby
as their long term savior from the Taliban ?

--
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Loon Party: http://www.twitpic.com/8zi369/full


subject: Want excuses?...Vote Republican......Want results?...Vote Obama.

text:
On May 3, 2:49 pm, "Ray Keller" <LEFTARD TROLLS ARE DESPERATE> wrote:

LOL..conservatives are always lying  and making excuses to make their
case.

The simple truth is that Obama IS the guy who got Bin
Laden...something NO Republican was able to accomplish.

Want excuses?...vote Republican.

Want results?...vote Obama.

TMT


text:
On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
<[email]> wrote:

You tap dance very well.  Now tell us why you are trashing the
handicapped today.


author: rbowman

text:
JohnJohnsn wrote:

Voting for a Mormon RINO isn't going to get you an invitation to Mensa
either.


text:
On Fri, 4 May 2012 00:00:13 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools wrote:

I have a question.  You are one of our beloved lala fringe ultra
liberals.   As in "liberal".  So, why do you find gay jokes and casual
accusations so amusing ?  Aren't you supposed to be supporting the gay
community instead of holding them up as objects of ridicule ?  I mean,
Obama used them and then sold them out, and now you.

Seems to me you are actually socially conservative - VERY far right if
not reactionary.


text:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 18:36:26 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
<[email]> wrote:

I AM a conservative.  No closet involved.  That's more of a leftist
thing.

It's just that the Republican party and their candidates are NOT
conservatives.  Doesn't fit your neat black/white frame of logic.


text:
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 8:03:53 PM UTC-4, ABM - Anyone But a Mormon wrote:

Romney?  How come you're not celebrating his diversity?


author: Peter Franks

text:
On 5/3/2012 5:03 PM, ABM - Anyone But a Mormon wrote:

No.


author: Gray Guest

text:
Too_Many_Tools <[email]> wrote in news:344a41b6-32da-4499-
[email]:

m
i
presidency
campaign
a
seriously
spending
fu
or
to
t

Exactly what kind of results do you want there Sparky?

I'd say O has been a real success... at wrecking the joint.

--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.

What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.

http://nukeitfromorbit.com/


text:
On Thursday, May 3, 2012 4:14:14 PM UTC-4, Too_Many_Tools wrote:

The intelligence information that Obama used to locate Uncle Bin should have been inadmissible because, according to Obama, it was gathered illegally through "torture."  And why didn't Obama read Uncle Bin his Miranda Rights?

You guys flip flop on so much stuff that you have zero credibility.


text:
The guys who ACTUALLY got bin Laden disagree......

Navy SEALs hit Obama for making Osama Bin Laden raid political

PHOENIX, May 2, 2012- On Tuesday, the political group, Veterans for a
strong America, released an ad saying, “Why does Obama take so much
credit for killing Osama Bin Laden?”

One year ago, Operation Neptune Spear resulted in the killing of Osama
Bin Laden.  The  Al-Qaeda terror leader had been hiding in Abbottabad,
Pakistan, killing.

One year later, President Barack Obama is launching “Operation Spike
The Football”, as a tough re-election campaign.

The first attack is President Obama's political ad attacking Mitt
Romney, claiming that presumptive Republican nominee wouldn’t have
ordered the kill to take out Bin Laden.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/conscience-conservative/2012/may/2/navy-seals-hit-obama-making-osama-bin-laden-raid-p/

The ad, narrated by former President Bill Clinton states that Obama
took the “harder and the more honorable path,” in killing the terror
leader.

The ad then displays a banner of text reading, “Which path would Mitt
Romney have taken?”

The ad continues with clips of President Obama announcing the death of
Bin Laden, highlighting just how much Obama overused the word “I,”
instead of the United States for example.

Ever since Osama was announced dead, Obama has run around on a victory
lap claiming that it was his leadership that ultimately killed Bin
Laden.

When in fact, Obama only authorized the operation to take place; he
was not there. The troops killed Bin Laden. Obama and the White House
haven’t given credit to where credit is due.

The Navy SEALs.

Unfortunately for Obama, serving and former Navy Seals aren’t keeping
quiet about his political victory lap, as they’ve come out against
Obama.

"I think every president would have done the same. He is justified in
saying it was his decision but the preparation, the sacrifice - it was
a broader team effort," a former Navy SEAL and Team 6 assault leader
is quoted as saying the Daily Mail Online, "The President and his
administration are positioning him as a war president using the SEALs
as ammunition. It was predictable."

Another serving SEAL Team operator says about the president:

"Obama wasn’t in the field, at risk, carrying a gun. As President, at
every turn he should be thanking the guys who put their lives on the
line to do this. He does so in his official speeches because the
speechwriters are smart. But the more he tries to take the credit for
it, the more the ground operators are saying, “Come on, man!” It
really didn’t matter who was president. At the end of the day, they
were going to go.’

Even the far-left Editor-in-Chief of the Huffington Post, Arianna
Huffington, slammed Obama for making the OBL raid political, saying,
‘...to turn it into a campaign ad is one of the most despicable things
you can do.’

To top off Obama’s inaccurate victory lap, according to the CNSNews’s
database on Afghanistan war casualties, 69% of war casualties in the
country have happened under Obama’s watch since taking office in
January 2009.

That’s nearly 1,275 of the total 1,844 deaths since Operation Enduring
Freedom started in October 2001.

It isn’t clear yet if Obama’s choice of taking all the credit for the
Osama Bin Laden raid has resonated with the American electorate and
has actually resulted in support for the president.

However, what does remain clear is that Obama’s victory dance isn’t
going to end anytime soon. It will continue to be political fodder in
the months ahead of November.

Obama isn’t going to let Americans forget that he was the president
that ordered the killing of the man who massacred 3,000 Americans on
September 11 as they go to vote.

At any rate, it is "despicable" to see the President use the men and
women that protect us everyday as political ammunition in his
reelection bid.

Email Henry D’Andrea at [email] and follow him on
Twitter (@TheHenry)


text:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 13:14:14 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
<[email]> wrote:

Hell yes.  He is going to end the war in six months and get the boys
back home and getting America's economy on track is just a matter of
months too.  That's what candidate Obama told us.  Which begs the
question, which "results" are you babbling on about ?


text:
On 5/3/2012 3:14 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:

  Great slogan !

Kraus: Loon Party: http://www.twitpic.com/8zi369/full


author: PrecisionmachinisT

text:
"Winston_Smith" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Hey fucknut YOU were the one that made a veiled refrence to liberals being
gay.


author: Oglethorpe

text:
"Winston_Smith" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Compared to Obama, Romney is a conservative. Obama is a fascist.


text:
"Winston_Smith" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
"Homophobia may reveal denial of own same-sex attraction, study suggests"

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57411822-10391704/homophobia-may-reveal-denial-of-own-same-sex-attraction-study-suggests/


author: BeamMeUpScotty

text:
In 2010 we put about 700 in place of your Socialist comrades.....

Romney is just one more cog in the wheel of EQUAL JUSTICE, soon we will
get America back to living by the constitution as the Nation was founded.

--
*He has the most who is most content with the least* -Diogenes-


text:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 20:31:33 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
<[email]> wrote:

Perhaps TMT can comment.


subject: Re: Obama's tacky 'I Shot Bin Laden' ad has turned a military triumph into a political disaster

text:
"BeamMeUpScotty" <[email]> wrote in
message news:[email]...

No you won't. I'm gonna get reelected because I killed bin Laden.

Did y'all know that? That I killed bin Laden? Yep, me. I issued the order. I
gave the
go ahead. Me, I did it.

And just think how bad it would have been for me if them Navy Seals had been
killed.

That's how brave I am.

Now, don't forget, I killed bin Laden. Me. I did it.

Romney wouldn't have killed bin Laden like I did either, like when I killed
bin Laden.

-Barack Obama, the guy that killed bin Laden.


text:
On 5/4/2012 11:44 AM, Barack Obama, the guy that killed bin Laden. wrote:

Obama hand loaded the ammunition personally....  then he flew the
helicopters that made it, and he squeezed the triggers......

IT WAS ALL OBAMA.

You nailed it.

--
*He has the most who is most content with the least* -Diogenes-


text:
On 5/4/2012 9:10 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:

I'm no fan of GWB, but whenever he was talking about admin
accomplishments, he almost always used the word "we", as in "we
accomplished this or that".

Compare with Obama.  He prefers to use the word "I", as in "I
accomplished this or that".  Watch Obama's bin Laden announcement and
you will see what I mean.

To me, that means something.


author: Frank

text:
On 5/4/2012 12:33 PM, Peter Franks wrote:

SOB's going to be killing Bin Laden up to the election.
He'll leak out more of the information gathered as time goes on.
I suspect near the election, he'll even roll out picture of the body -
maybe with him standing over it holding a smoking gun.


author: NUGIT

subject: Recording Consent Required in Florida

text:
I believe that both parties must consent to recording calls in Florida.

Can anyone point me in the right direction of the state statute?

Thxs: Pokey


author: Bob Stock

subject: Re: Recording Consent Required in Florida

text:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 14:11:31 -0400, "NUGIT" <[email]> wrote:

According to this handy website, all parties must consent in Florida:

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/

------------------------------
Bob Stock, California Attorney
Nothing I've said should be relied on as legal advice.
------------------------------


author: Tom of Bunyon

text:
"Bob Stock" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Are you legally entitled to hang up on the other party if they don't agree
to be recorded? (I'm thinking of certain unscrupulous lenders here in
Georgia that have been in the news recently for terrible phone harassment
among other things).


author: [redacted]

text:
In misc.legal.moderated on Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:58:06 -0400 "Tom of
Bunyon" <[email]> posted:

I think you are legally entitled to hang up on anyone for any reason.


author: Stan Brown

text:
Tom of Bunyon <[email]> wrote in misc.legal.moderated:

Aren't you legally entitled to hang up on anyone for any reason?


text:
On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:58:06 -0400, "Tom of Bunyon"
<[email]> wrote:

I understand your question to be:

John calls Mary and asks Mary if she will consent to have their
conversation recorded.  Mary says no.  Can John hang up?

Yes.

------------------------------
Bob Stock, California Attorney
Nothing I've said should be relied on as legal advice.
------------------------------


author: Criminal Drivers Murder 35,000 Americans a Year

text:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75930

Obama Refers to Illegal Aliens as ‘Us’ As He Renews Call for Amnesty

Tuesday, September 28, 2010
By Terence P. Jeffrey

(CNSNews.com) - President Barack Obama referred to illegal aliens in
the United States as “us” on Tuesday while renewing his call for
giving them a “pathway to citizenship”—an amnesty--and castigating
opponents of such an amnesty as demagogues.

Obama’s made the statement at what the White House billed as a
“backyard discussion” at a private home in Albuquerque, New Mexico. It
came in the midst of a 754-word answer he gave in response to a woman
who asked: “How do you envision a comprehensive immigration reform as
one measure towards America’s economic recovery and long-term
vitality?”

“Let’s provide a pathway to citizenship for those who are already
here, understanding that they broke the law, so they’re going to have
to pay a fine and pay back taxes and, I think, learn English, make
sure that they don’t have a criminal record,” said Obama. “There are
some hoops that they’re going to have to jump through, but giving them
a pathway is the right thing to do.

“Now, unfortunately, right now this is getting demagogued,” Obama
said. “A lot of folks think it’s an easy way to score political points
is by trying to act as if there’s a ‘them’ and an ‘us,’ instead of
just an ‘us.’ And I’m always suspicious of politics that is dividing
people instead of bringing them together. I think now is the time for
us to come together.”

(snip)


author: f. barnes

subject: Re: Obama Refers to Illegal Aliens as ‘Us’ As He Renews Call for Amnesty

text:
On Sep 29, 10:12 pm, Ramon F Herrera <[email]> wrote:

Maybe, maybe not.  We are all waiting for a man on a white horse, we
are all waiting for another Eisenhower.  And there will not be an
amnesty before he comes along to deport them all.  That's a promise.


author: Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers

text:
On Sep 29, 12:28 pm, "f. barnes" <[email]> wrote:

Got that right. Amnesty for illegals just tells other foreigners that
illegal invasion is the fast track to citizenship.


author: Ramon F Herrera

text:
On Sep 30, 1:21 am, Steve from Colorado <[email]> wrote:

You are asking me to prove a negative, Steve.

My side has 50% of a law (CIR) being worked on.

Your side (massive deportations) has NOTHING. You are the one that has
to provide cites and proof. Any proto-bill? Anything at all?

-Ramon


text:
On Sep 30, 1:24 am, "f. barnes" <[email]> wrote:

Venezuelans spent a very long time waiting for another Bolivar in a
white horse, and look what they got.

-Ramon


text:
On Sep 29, 9:12 pm, Ramon F Herrera <[email]> wrote:

No need for deportation.  Take away their jobs and govt benefits and
these parasites will leave on their own.  This is a very easy problem
to solve.


author: Steve from Colorado

text:
On Sep 29, 9:12 pm, Ramon F Herrera <[email]> wrote:

Cites?  Proof?

You mean invaders / illegal aliens.


text:
On Sep 30, 4:00 am, Ramon F Herrera <[email]> wrote:

That doesn't carry over to English speaking countries, it's an
Hispanic thing.

Hide quoted text -


text:
On Sep 29, 10:16 am, "Criminal Drivers Murder 35,000 Americans a Year"
<[email]> wrote:

And they call Tea Party candidates nutty?  Unbelievable!  Obama is
clearly a one worlder.  To him the US is not a sovereign nation; it's
just a place on a map, and our borders are just lines on a map.

And they call Tea Party candidates fringe nutcases?  WTF?  if Obama
doesn't lose the 2012 election then this country is lost, it's gone,
it's no more, it's kaput, the parrot is dead.


text:
On Sep 29, 1:04 pm, Jordon <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote:

No.  And we learned from his mistake that amnesty doesn't solve the
problem, it only makes it worse.  But if you believe as Obama does
then there is no problem because the border doesn't exist and they are
already "us":   In Obama's eyes amnesty just makes their assumed
citizenship official.   And it doesn't matter how many more come since
they, too, are "us".  He's a one worlder.

- Hide quoted text -


author: richard

text:
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:16:22 -0700 (PDT), Criminal Drivers Murder 35,000
Americans a Year wrote:

Taken totally out of context. I believe he was trying to refer to all of
those in the USA as "us". Not just illegal aliens. Interesting to note that
he is now understanding that his original amnesty idea ain't gonna work.
He now understands that he can't give citizenship to an illegal alien just
because they are. He understands those with criminal records won't get it.

That's a rather big leap for the guy who originally wanted to hand out
citizenship to every last illegal alien.

It's still a pipe dream. He can't make it happen without the approval of
congress. You know that ain't gonna happen.


text:
On Sep 29, 1:11 pm, richard <[email]> wrote:

Of course that's what he meant and that's wrong.  Illegals are not
part of the country.


text:
On Sep 29, 2:11 pm, richard <[email]> wrote:

Well, massive deportations are not gonna happen, either.

And the administration still can do some things like for instance,
stop chasing regular member of the undocumented workforce:

http://tinyurl.com/28cyoxz

-RFH


text:
On Sep 29, 10:12 pm, Ramon F Herrera <[email]> wrote:

This is the correct link:

"U.S. shifts approach to deporting illegal immigrants"

http://tinyurl.com/327qhcb

-Ramon


author: Tankfixer

subject: Re: Obama Refers to Illegal Aliens as ?Us? As He Renews Call for Amnesty

text:
In article <ba2374af-3fdd-475b-b76a-b0657e9f5de7
@p26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, [email] says...

Enforce the current law..
No new laws are required.


author: Bill Graham

text:
"f. barnes" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
On Sep 29, 10:16 am, "Criminal Drivers Murder 35,000 Americans a Year"
<[email]> wrote:

And they call Tea Party candidates nutty?  Unbelievable!  Obama is
clearly a one worlder.  To him the US is not a sovereign nation; it's
just a place on a map, and our borders are just lines on a map.

And they call Tea Party candidates fringe nutcases?  WTF?  if Obama
doesn't lose the 2012 election then this country is lost, it's gone,
it's no more, it's kaput, the parrot is dead.

One step at a time, my friend....First, lets take the house and senate back
this year. Then perhaps we can get our jobs back by reducing taxes and
giving small businesses the desire to borrow and hire. Then, we have to find
a viable candidate to run for the 2012 presidency, and get behind and
support him.


author: Brendan Getchel

subject: DUAL Pentium Mega System FS. Megabucks! Must sell.

text:
I am posting this in a couple of groups that probably shouldn't get it because
they are the people who would buy such a monster. Sorry for the "quasi-spam".

This system is only a few days old. I have *all* receipts (All Paid in Full),
documentation and packaging. Everything is Brand Name Merchandise under *full*
warranty and *all* purchased from established, reputable companies that have
existed for many years. *NOTHING* is or has been used aside from my personal
configuration and tinkering this past week. It is *the* fastest PC system I
have seen to date, or heard of FTM. Norton Desktop 3.0 for Windows SI rating is
501! Windows NT *flies* because of the dual processors and Wide-SCSI Bandwidth.
WFWG is *beautiful* at 1600x1280x16.7 million Colors as is 3D Studio R3.
PageMaker 5.0, Photoshop 3.0 and Fractal Design Painter 3.0 are a dream to work
with on this system. Another 32Mb of RAM (total of 64M) and it would be even
more unbelieveable than it is now. I will give the full versions of Adobe
PageMaker 5.0a and Photoshop 3.0 CD away with this system along with DOS 6.22
and WFWG or Windows NT 3.5 WS in place of DOS/Win. All in boxes and
*unregistered*.

Now for the reason I���m selling my dream system: I never thought it would be so
expensive. Once I started with getting the components and not tallying
everything up on paper (even though I had a good estimate in my head) I was
going overboard quickly. I sold my old Pentium System and told my wife I was
not going to put much more into my new one. Within the last week I���ve spent
well over $8000 on this one, getting all of the latest, fastest, most expensive
brand name components to build my dream system with. Now my wife looks at me in
disgust when I sit in front of it. Not to mention that I have recently bought
an HP Scanjet IIcx for $1000 with tax, a Wacom UD1212r Digitizer with Pressure
Sensitive Pen and 4-Button Puck for $675, an IBM/Lexmark Optra RX for $2000 and
a Practical Peripherals PM288MT V.34 external modem for another $250. Adding
all of this up, plus all of the latest software, comes to over $14,000. All
within the past month!!! Now she���s freaking out and I have to make a gesture of
peace and get rid of it. Bummer! Sorry for the extended sob story but there are
many out there who will take *every* opportunity to flame this post
(Regrettably ignorant of the facts) and I wanted to temper that form of
response. Anyway the entire system is built around what are, arguably, the
finest Motherboard and System Components available. Which are:

System Specifications

Micronics M54Pe Dual Pentium 90/100mHz PCI/EISA Motherboard (Latest board just
released 2-weeks ago)
	-Full Eight-Layer Design
	-Supports Dual 90 or 100mHz CPU���s
	-3-PCI & 5-EISA 32-bit Expansion Slots
	-512K-15ns L2 Write-back Flash Cache
	-Intel 82340 Neptune Chipset
	-512MB Max. RAM
	-On-Board PCI Mode-3 IDE Controller (Supports two drives)
	-On-Board ISA Mode-3 IDE Controller (Supports additional two drives)
	-On-Board FDD Controller (Supports 2.88 and Lower FDDs)
	-Two On-board, High-speed NS16550 Serial ports
	-One EPP/ECP Bi-Directional Parallel Port
	-Upgradeable 1M Phoenix Flash BIOS

---------------------------------------------------
System Configured with:
---------------------------------------------------
Dual Intel 90mHz Pentium Processors (Build SX968) w/ Heat Sinks & Fans
	-Latest Intel build eliminates need for ���Slave��� CPU
32Mb RAM configured as (2) - 4x36, 60ns SIMMS (parity)
ViewSonic 20PS 20��� 1600x1280, .28dp. w/ ���OnView Controls��� & Color Matching
	-Latest ViewSonic Monitor
	-ARAG Coating
	-Edge-to-Edge Viewing
	-Digital On-Screen Controls Control with everything from Kelvin to H&V
Moire
Adaptec AHA2940W PCI Fast & Wide SCSI RISC Controller
	-Full Kit. Not Bare Adapter
	-Supports both 68-pin Wide SCSI and 50-pin Fast SCSI2 Devices
	-On-Board RISC Processor
Radius FireStorm 192 - 192 Bit Ultra High Speed Graphics Accelerator w/ 6Mb RAM
	-PCI Bus
	-Supports True Color *at* 1600x1280 resolution!!!
	-Had #9 Imagine 128. FS192 is *Significantly* Faster!
Intel EtherExpress PRO/100mbps PCI Network Adapter
	-Fastest Ethernet adapter available
Seagate 2.1G Wide SCSI Barracuda - ST12550W
	-World���s Fastest Drives for High-End PC���s
	-8ms Access Time
	-1024K Buffer
Quantum ProDrive 700 - 700M Fast SCSI2 Drive
Plextor PX-43CH Internal Quad Speed SCSI2 CD-ROM w/ 1M Buffer
	-World���s Fastest CD-ROM Drive
Digital 3-1/2��� 2.88M High Speed Floppy (Reads & Writes Lower Densities)
	-Fast Access
	-Very Quiet
Turtle Beach Tropez Digital Wavetable Sound Board
	-Top Sound Board on Market
	-Incredible Sound
Cambridge Sound Works Multimedia Sound System
	-Top-Rated Multimedia Speaker System
	-Dual Satellite Speakers with separate Bass Subwoofer
	-Sound equivelent to Bose���s $700 Acoustimass system
	-Makes Altec Lansing 300.1 System sound like a PC Speaker
11-Bay Full-Size Fileserver Case w/300 Watt PS
	-Separate Dual Cooling Fans
	-Fully enclosed device bay
	-Visual LED Panel
	-Dual *hinged* side access panels. No more pulling cases off
	-Rests on four locking caster-style wheels
	-12-Expansion Slot Capacity
	-Cavernous working space. Easy Access to *everything*. No Cramping!
	-Acer 6511 102-Key Tactile Keyboard (I���m an IBM KB fan but this one is
nice also)
	-Microsoft Ergo-Mouse with Intellipoint
Latest Microsoft Ergo-Mouse

I know that this system is overkill and no one will want to spend the money for
it (myself least of all) but I would *much* prefer to sell it as completely as
possible. I���m only looking to get what I paid for it within this past week or
two. I got some *excellent* deals that *most* people could not get on *new*
equipment from major distributors because I purchased most of the components
through dealer-distribution channels. For all of the hardware and accompanying
software, all new in the boxes with full warranties, documentation, paid
receipts and registration cards I will have to sell it for $8200.00. I will
absorb the shipping charges. Those out there who are convulsing at the price as
ridiculous, try to price each item separately, apples to apples, through
standard reseller channels, and see what total you finally arrive at.

Brendan Getchel
<[email]>
(203) 753-4428


author: Innersect

subject: Re: DUAL Pentium Mega System FS. Megabucks! Must sell.

text:
In article <3kc6ga$[email]>, [email] says...

I couldn't resist posting... You're a bigger man than I, I must say... I tell
you one thing, it wouldn't be my computer that would be going!  hehehe..


text:
In article <3kdbvt$[email]>, <[email]> writes:
so
expensive
in
bought

I was actually considering the alternative once I ran this thing! :-)

Brendan


author: john kammlade

text:
In article <3kh9g7$[email]>, Brendan Getchel <[email]> says:
that would be awefull but hey at least you tried!!!!


author: Brian Berst

subject: Network Kits

text:
The following products are new

Two computer Solution
(2) PCI Ethernet Cards
(1) Cross over cable adapter no need for hub
(1) 25 foot cable
$59.00

Begining network Kit:
(2) PCI Ethernet Cards
(1) 5 Port Hub
(2) 7 foot RJ45 Cables
$99.00

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(1) PCI Ethernet Card
(1) 5 Port Hub
(1) 7 foot RJ45 Cable
$75.00

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