text:
KittyP wrote:
...
<hedgetrimmer:dissection>

Hey, I'm as "enlightened" as it gets and anybody
would be a complete fool to listen to me.

You're indeed the mistress of understatement, Kitty.

Rule One: Don't Imagine.
Uncle Al wasn't really talking about "imagination" in his
famous quote.

People's beliefs (and I don't mean in the proven principles of
relativity or mathematics, but in the unprovable; the subjective)
affect how they interact with other people. If you haven't noticed
that, while YOU may not want to change THEM, THEY want to change YOU
(the pronouns attach directly to the belief system).

You may have read Dawkins' excellent, "The Selfish Gene" which
now has proven to be interestingly true in a different way. I'm
surprised that he hasn't proposed "The Selfish Meme", although
everyone's actually got hold of the idea bwahahahahaaa (sorry,
recursive moment there...). Anyway, my point is mostly that selfish
memes 'freeze' cultures in one or many vectors. This may or may not
result in conflict, survival, etc., among memetic cultures, but
it is the antithesis of science. We should be careful not to repeat
"tolerance" stories (another meme!) to ourselves that fail to
recognize the effects of the violent and viral nature of such memes.

To finish this up, I'd like to comment that, yes, anyone can believe
anything they wish and that the transmission, legislation, public
support, or general application of such beliefs outside of themselves
(including their own families, etc.) should be a criminal offense,
punishable by exile to Texas or any other place whose sole claim to
value is oil, covered by sand.

The message (meme) of Buddhism in this circumstance is: Enjoy your
burqa. Coincidentally, it is the same message that invites (and
promotes, to the benefit of its memetic hierarchy and that of others)
dissociative disorder, ADHD, ATDD, etc. etc. etc.

The current modern meme of Buddhism actually teaches you how to
fool yourself, but the practice, in both Zen and Chan, turns that
around entirely. No so-called "master" would exclude critical
thinking from practice. Anatta, Anicca, Dukkha are just the first
clicks - the beginning of freedom to use your mind to whatever
extent it's capable. Real Buddhism doesn't settle into a meme.

All these years, Tang has been nibbling on only half the apple,
as have all the so-called "masters". They're asleep at the switch.
One of the reasons I was so taken by Nichiren was that(in spite of the
baggage), Nichiren could still act from a position of Quality.
But most Buddhists are selfish. Look at poor Tang - he's so afraid of
himself that he's buried it all over the back yard. Everywhere
you dig, some bit of it pops up.

Don't believe anything I say here. Go find out for yourself. That's
"Buddhism", and that's all there is to it. Finding out for yourself
is not as easy as it seems, but the entire point of "Buddhism" is
that it's possible. Don't bother with personal suffering - get it
out of the way - there's a lot more to be done. If you subscribe to
a lifetime of curing your OC disorder about your personal suffering,
you'll still be nuts. And you won't have done a damn thing about
anything else or for anyone else. What a selfish waste, eh?

Get your head together.

Eu de Flu


author: Tang Huyen

subject: Re: In the end, it's all up to what you want (was Re: Type)

text:
KittyP wrote:

Some people want to establish a nanny state
on these boards to protect some people from
mere words on the screen, which somehow
are read as swords on the screen. But the
people who look at mere words on the screen
and see swords on the screen are poor
candidates for mental culture, in the sense
defined by you.

Tang Huyen


text:
Don Harvey Ignacia del Encanto wrote:

Erecting and pulling. In the old days, there were
dispensers of seat covers in public toilets with a
caption: "Pull up then pull down."

Tang Huyen


author: Ali

text:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:21:21 -0700, Don Harvey Ignacia del Encanto
<[email]> wrote:

It was an illegal erection. Chads were dropped. Chaos ensued. Sue was
sued. Then Kaos broke out.


text:
Invisible Lurker wrote:

You just want to butter me up, eh?

Tang Huyen


author: KittyP

text:
"Dï¿½jï¿½ Flu" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

I prefer getting my heart together, but thank you.
Kitty


author: Hollywood Lee

text:
Tang Huyen wrote:

Perhaps.  Perhaps not.  What is odd is that you take a possible tendency
at the particular level and raise it to a universal, such that people in
your world can only be one or two types.  Talk about rigidity.

Didn't Julian teach you anything, boyo?


author: Charles E Hardwidge

text:
"Tang Huyen" <tanghuyen{delete}@gmail.com[remove]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Copied from a reply to someone quoting me in a private group:

/Quote

You may wish to look up Dame Pauline Neville-Jones comments on international
negotiation. It's similarly tough, but the different between the real world
and online world is in consequences. That tends to focus peoples minds more
on the outcomes, agreement, and change.

The Tao comments that in an age of turbulence, feudal lords arise. The
Nazi's Beer House Putsch, Tory electioneering tactics, and Mugabe's rule all
seek to create conflict so they can develop and maintain power. Why?
Conflict narrows the perception gap so simplistic solutions gain traction.

The Tao also comments that the long, long term is worth focusing on. The
short-term buzz is easy and immediate, but studies show that the more
successful people and organisations sidestep immediate gains and pains in
favour of long-term growth. This demands subtlety and patience.

/Unquote

Better order and harmony is a threat to your authority and power.


text:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:15:39 -0400, Tang Huyen
<tanghuyen{delete}@gmail.com[remove]> wrote:

Oh, damn. oh heh. Tang craked teh funneh. adn itw as goud.

Four teh slow- (tahts eveyroen  else, yuo unnelnightd dumies)

messiah == annointed.
annoitn== to buttre up.

heh. heh. o, ortflamo.


text:
"KittyP" <[email]> wrote in message
news:9Pock.8$[email]...

Proper order and harmony are useful otherwise we end up with too much
clutter or cruelty. These are best avoided for obvious reasons.


text:
"KittyP" <[email]> wrote in message
news:9Pock.8$[email]...

nice


text:
"Don Harvey Ignacia del Encanto" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

..but beaten down with me cain.


subject: Re: In the ender, it's all up to what you want (was Re: Type)

text:
"Invisible Lurker" <[email]> wrote in message
news:B%eck.21965$[email]...

he's about a quart low and
his dipstick is broke


text:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:17:56 -0700, "KittyP" <[email]>
wrote:

SNORT!


author: Keynes

text:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:56:30 -0700, Bill Pfeifer <[email]>
wrote:

Crude, if ya ask me.


author: dt

text:
Don Harvey Ignacia del Encanto wrote:

Mecain?  Is he still running?

Oh, brother!

DT


author: _ G O D _

text:
Kiwi escapes Taliban kidnap
New Zealand
Taliban militants are believed to be
behind the attempt to kidnap a New
Zealand school principal in north
western Pakistan. Up to six men
stormed the house ...
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411319/1201963
See all stories on this topic:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ncl=http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411319/1201963

CIA "kidnap" victim eyes political career in Egypt
United States
by Phil Stewart
ROME
An Egyptian cleric who says he was kidnapped
by the CIA in Italy and flown to Egypt for torture
is considering a political ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/26/AR2007062600481.html
See all stories on this topic:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ncl=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/26/AR2007062600481.html

Man impersonated investigator to kidnap patient
Memphis, TN, USA
A man posing as a sheriff's investigator tried
to kidnap a hospital patient in Elizabethton.
Police have arrested Justin Guess on charges
of criminal ...
http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=6712453
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http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ncl=http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp%3FS%3D6712453

Kidnap bid for merchant navy course
India
So, they planned to kidnap Anirudh for easy
money," said a senior police officer. After
Sumit lured the boy into sitting in his Indica car, ...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Kidnap_bid_for_merchant_navy_course/articleshow/2152179.cms
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Bandits flock to CAR to loot and kidnap
London,England,UK
BANGUI
The lawless Central African Republic is
becoming a magnet for armed groups and
bandits from across the region who are
looting, ...
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26546324.htm
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'Maoist rebels' kidnap rail men
UK
Maoist rebels in eastern India have kidnapped
two people and blown up railway tracks in protest
against the federal government's economic policies. ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6239840.stm
See all stories on this topic:
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Mystery over kidnap report
Redditch,UK
..investigation into the reported abduction of
a boy from the Woodrow area received a call
last Wednesday that a boy ...
http://www.redditchadvertiser.co.uk/news/ranewslatest/display.var.1499186.0.mystery_over_kidnap_report.php
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'Kidnap victim' escapes on Harbour Bridge
Sydney,New South Wales,Australia
Police are appealing for witnesses following
an alleged abduction in which a young man,
who had been dragged into a car, possibly a
Mercedes Benz, ...
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/kidnap-victim-escapes-on-harbour-bridge/2007/06/27/1182623942585.html
See all stories on this topic:
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'Kidnap? Our boy had just run off...'
United Kingdom
As one mystery is solved another continues
in the Vale of Glamorgan where police are
still investigating a possible kidnap of a woman
from the Copthorne ...
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_headline=--8216-kidnap--our-boy-had-just-run-off-----8217-&method=full&objectid=19358300&siteid=50082-name_page.html
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Glasgow kidnap gang jailed
London,UK
"It was a 25-day inquiry, by far the longest for
a conventional kidnap in the United Kingdom,"
commented Strathclyde police's Detective
Superintendent ...
http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/crime/glasgow-kidnap-gang-jailed-$1103687.htm
See all stories on this topic:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ncl=http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/crime/glasgow-kidnap-gang-jailed-%241103687.htm


author: Way Back Jack

subject: Re: Man impersonated investigator to kidnap patient

text:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:47:01 GMT, "_ G O D _" <[email]>
wrote:

Kidnap stories disseminated by Moonbat unknowingly.


text:
"COck-sucker Jack" wrote
news:[email]...

Specifically designed to upset you so
you could open your mouth and show
your penis breath, after shit fall out of
it uncontrollably. Because you full of it....


author: Virgil

subject: Re: discussion and reason in alt.atheism

text:
In article <eEGPl.11528$[email]>,
 fasgnadh <[email]> wrote:

You dastards who so viciously invade our NG with your lies and calumnies
could remain safely unraped by staying in your own yards, of which you
have a plethora.

And I would trust an atheist like Bertrand Russell way before a lying
cheating Xtian like G.W. Bush, or fasgnadh, any day.


author: fasgnadh

subject:
Atheist Sociopath explains how victims can avoid being Cyberstalked
 and pack-raped by atheists..  you will be shocked!   Re: discussion and reason
 in alt.atheism

text:
Virgil aka chung aka hdangsaf aka aka AB chung aka
the cyberstalking forger and fraud explained why atheists
pack-raped their intended victims:

The cited post in which atheists INVITE theists to post
in alt.atheism has been removed by the sociopath
so he can 'justify' the atheist jackal packs stalking
and pack rape;

The charges are admitted.

The cybberstalking and pack rape by atheist thugs are 'justified'
according to the Central Committee of the Atheist Cult which thinks it
owns alt.atheism:-  The way victims can avoid having their UNIVERSAL
RIGHTS to freedom of belief and Freedom of Speech violated by
atheist thugs is to SURRENDER THOSE rights by falling silent!

As in the atheist gulags, their crime is speaking, the punishment
is being silenced.

Why are these atheist thugs in PUBLIC DISCUSSION GROUPS!???

Why do they not have a cosy, closed group where their idiocy will
not be seen and not be commented on!?!?

I suggest alt.atheist.retarded  (moderated)    B^D

What they want is a SHELTERED WORKSHOP for the INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGED
ATHEIST   who cannot stand rational argument or being contradicted!  B^D

Does anyone Smell the Stench of Pol Pot, Lenin and the Red Terror,
Mao and the fanatical mob of doctrinaire atheist lunatics waving
their dogma and screeching "Death to the running Dogs!"???

Pack up and go home, George Bush and Dick Cheney have
apparently settled in alt.athesim, and being fearful
moral midgets they have torn up rights you took for
granted, again!

You only have them for as long as you fight for them.  ;-)

Well, newsflash..  atheist thuggery and Cyberstalking will
not go unchallenged!    B^]

Who among the atheists will not feel shame that they
handed their NG  over to a thug like Virgil...

But they are supine and complicit..  so be it.

You can see how the gutless Burghers allowed the Chaplin
impersonator into the Reichstag..  and that went 'real well'!    B^p

No one, having met you, ever would again.

I don't have to do much to expose the Dark Underbelly
of Atheism anymore.. it's now come into the open.


subject:
a-discussion and a-reason in alt.a-theism - Atheist reveals his horror
 of Discussion in Usenet  B^D   Re: In Search of God - Part 3

text:
Virgil aka chung aks ABCHUNG akaa.. who gives a fuck what
the atheist Kook calls itself admits he forges and Cyber-stalks
other posters SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DISCUSS THINGS IN DISCUSSION GROUPS!!;

8^o  Virgil is so terrified of Discussion in Usenet, he regards it
as 'evil'(sic) and that's why he Cyberstalks those who Cyber talk!  B^p

Virgil aka Chung aka ABCHUNG aka atheist forger and
Cyberstalker reveals the 'evil' which 'provokes him'
to his filthy fraud and impersonation;

...

Got that!?  He does it because people are having
discussions in Usenet Discussion groups!  B^)

Clearly what he doesn't like is that the ideas
other people ehave are different to his, and his
are so weak and indefensible by the traditional
means..  RATIONAL ARGUMENT, that he has to CHEAT!  8^o

He seems to be deluded into thinking the NG belongs to him, and
it's purpose is for him to Forge and Cyberstalk..
and the atheists all seem to agree with him!     B^0

Excellent.. It's Sodom and Gomorrah time!   One of my favourites!

But more of that later..      B^]

When a community decides to tear up it's rules,
as every atheist regime did.. they don't last for long.

The binding social structures are rapidly fragmented and destroyed.

The truth is, Virgil's Jihad is without foundation.

In a pluralist democracy with free speech, you can't shoot
people because they say something you don't like!

Well, I understand that in the US people DO, but
it REDUCES everyone's freedoms!  B^p

alt.atheism is an un-moderated discussion group
in which I typically discuss Atheism,  and atheists
beg me to stop revealing the HISTORICAL truth about it,
and demand I prove the existence of God for them!              B^D

It appears they regard alt.atheism as a shithole in
which freedom of speech is trashed by atheist thugs...

JUST LIKE IN THE USSR, MAO's CULTURAL DEVOLUTION,
THE GREAT LEAP BACKWARD AND POL POT'S ATHEIST GENOCIDE!!!

And to think some atheists were trying to tell us they
had changed their spots!!!    B^]

The rapist blames the victim of atheist PACK RAPE
for...   coming on 'their turf'  8^o

So there you have it..  everyone who is not one of the
alt.atheism CULT is clearly warned.. they will FUCK YOU
if you dare to post in the piece of open unmoderated
USENET they claim belongs to their coven;

The Cross-posting Hypocrite and FORGER is at last honest
that the ONLY way the enemies of the Atheist Central
Committee can escape pack rape and murder is to leave
alt.atheism!

# Subject: Jesus is Bored with Chung ! ! !
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#  "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email]> wrote:
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# That fish is overripe and stinks, along with even smellier
# snipped fish.

Virgil is overripe and stinks,  all of alt.atheism is tainted with his
stink.  It will hang round their necks like an albatross.


author: Marvin the Martian

subject: Nutjob Maher calls for his Black minions to go after White voters.

text:
"If you're thinking about voting for Mitt Romney, I would like to make
this one plea: black people know who you are and they will come after you"

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/11/03/maher-if-
you-vote-romney-black-people-know-who-you-are-and-will-come#ixzz2BBBaeoPm

This moron is a real racist asshole.


subject:
Re: Nutjob Maher calls for his Black minions to go after White
 voters.

text:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 09:58:05 -0700, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:

Lol! Our local "La Raza bronze NAZI" agrees with the idiot racist Maher
who is calling out the black minions to murder white people.

It doesn't get more obvious than this, folks.


text:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:26:15 -0700, Hell Stomper wrote:

come#ixzz2BBBaeoPm

Maher thinks he's funny, but his "joke" is based on a lot of chatter on
the internet from black people threatening to riot if Obama loses. As
such, he's adding fuel to the fire.

He's a racist asshole.


author: Ramon F. Herrera

subject: Re: Nutjob Maher calls for his Black minions to go after White voters.

text:
On Nov 3, 11:54 am, Marvin the Martian <[email]> wrote:

I believe you have identified yourself as a racist: Your moral
authority is underground.

-Ramon

ps: We PAY a large salary to Maher, to be an asshole. It is in his job
description.


text:
On Nov 3, 11:54 am, Marvin the Martian <[email]> wrote:

As opposed to a "pretend racist", like so many baggers who are racist
one minute and non-racist the next???

When are you people going to understand this ultra simple fact???

 Bill Maher DOES NOT hate you because you are white. He hates you
because you are RACIST.

-Ramon

"The left hates ideas (which is fine!!!)...
... the Right, people"

-Moi


text:
On Nov 3, 11:54 am, Marvin the Martian <[email]> wrote:

Pray tell: Against what race(s) is Bill Maher racist?

-Ramon The Non-Whitey White


author: Hell Stomper

text:
On Nov 3, 12:54 pm, Marvin the Martian <[email]> wrote:

The homies will only go after the weak, the sick and the elderly. This
is their MO.


text:
On Nov 3, 12:26 pm, Hell Stomper <[email]> wrote:

Have Black folks suddenly become REPUBLICAN!!!???

Wow, that's a shocking development...

-Ramon


author: Thomas Armagost

subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
In message <[email]>,
 [email] wrote:

It boils down to a debate between Malcolm X and Lenny Bruce.

Butcher _Blazing Saddles_?  Lenny says no.  Malcolm says yes.

During the first season of Saturday Night Live, Richard Pryor and
Chevy Chase performed the classic "Racist Word Association Interview"
comedy sketch.  The writer given credit for it is Paul Mooney.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75ginterview.phtml

Paul Mooney now wants to ban all uses of the N-word.  It's unfortunate
that he feels the need to repudiate the funniest sketch he ever wrote.


author: scooter

subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
"Thomas Armagost" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

And every stand up act he's done in the last twenty years


author: Sacre Bleu

subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
Thomas Armagost wrote:

I've always liked that blatant type of humor.
Unfortunately there are plenty of jackasses that feel the need to
make more of it than what it is.......humor.

Fuckin' lighten up PEOPLE!

As a reminder >>> http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/37546

RIP Richard, you were one of my favs!!!!


author: Zapanaz

subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:02:18 GMT, "scooter"
<[email]> wrote:

I guess we'll have to boycott all those Richard Pryor videos, too.


author: Gerald Sears

subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
Sacre Bleu wrote:

RIP Richard?
Hell no.
Richard isn't dead,
and he never will be!

Him, Shakespeare, and Elvis just yesterday were out grabbing a case of
beer at the grocery store.  I saw em wit my own two eyes.


subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
"Sacre Bleu" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
I don't want to lighten up.
 I like to see the monkeys squirm and fidget and get all existential, and
wonder who and where the fuck they are.

I like to see a third rate comic in 2nd rate comedy club lose his temper,
and wade into Andy Kaufman territory, pretending to be Lenny Bruce.

But Kramer is as stoopid or worse as his dumbass character.

He is a no talent hack, so when he gets his panties up his ass, and calls
people niggers, because they are talking , because he sucks , and his act
sucks, and they are bored, and all of the sudden , he realizes he ain't no
Lenny Bruce, and he ain't no Andy Kaufman , and he is all but calling for a
lynching, in a goddam LA club for crissakes, THAT, is comedy.  For us. Not
for him.

He sucks.

He is a physical comedian, and a clown on the Jerry Lewis level, has no
mastery over language, and has no business walking into that minefield,
because he never did, and never will have the chops, the intellect or the
emotional connection to an audience, to ever find his way out.

And if you think THATS funny, follow his false claim to be a jew, because
some of his best friends are Jews.

Lighten up, my ass.

Anybody who has that much money, and doesn't have the talent I left on a
toilet seat, should wrap piano  wire around his neck, give me a call, and
I'll push him off the chair, because THAT is funny.

Old Kramer doing his last pratfall like to step on air..

I like that sort of physical comedy, and when the shit fills up his shoes,
and his tounge thrusts out of his face onto his chest, THAT is almost as
cool as South Park, if he could only just fart, and splatter shit on the
floor of his mothers house  under  the Christmas tree,she just put up last
night, while I video tape it, and sell it to CBS for a hundred grand.

Now I'm laughing.

I think that would be pretty goddamm fucking funny. Especially if we can get
the reaction shot from his mother, when she comes in to see what stinks like
shit.

It's your little blue eyed,  blue faced, bug-eye son, Ms Richards. He has
shit all over him, did you forget to change his diaper? Then hand her a gun,
and maybe she'll blow her head off in grief, and that would be an excellent
videotape, and it would be funnier, and more creative than anything Michael
Richards has come up with since the Army Man  skits he did thirty years ago,
when he was smart enough to keep his stoopid fucking mouth shut..

The guy sucks.

I hope he kills himself.


author: Nick Bensema

subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
In article <[email]>,
Zapanaz  <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:

If boycotting is what Richard Pryor gets, then what are we going to
do to all those white comics who successfully used it and got
published?  George Carlin, for example, and both David Cross CD's.
Doug Stanhope referred to it by name instead of by letter.

Oh, yeah, and my favorite use was in the Daily Show, when Tiny Kiss
or some similar little-people Kiss tribute band was being interviewed:

DailyShowGuy: "What do you think of the M-word?"
TinyKissGuy: "It's pretty much the same as the N-word."
DailyShowGuy: "You think marriage is like being called a <BLEEP>?"


author: pete

subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
scooter wrote:

Before there was Lenny Bruce, there was:

http://www.shelleyberman.com/

Don't forget Shelley Berman.


author: Dan

subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
scooter wrote:

Please elaborate.  I'm not sure what you are trying to say.


author: Ace Lightning

subject: Re: The "N" Word

text:
pete wrote:

before there was Shelley Berman, there was Mort Sahl, whose
sarcastic, intellectual style was much more of an influence
on Bruce than Shelley Berman's Borscht-Belt humor.


author: Topaz

subject: typical Jews

text:
A New 'Israel First Smear Campaign
Michael Scheuer
http://non-intervention.com/1071/israel-first-thriving-in-governor-romney%E2%80%99s-camp-and-still-trying-to-get-me-fired-silenced/
Readers of this blog will recall several previous battles I have been
engaged in with Israel-Firsters intent on getting me fired from
various jobs and banned from the media. In these efforts, the
Israel-Firsters have had some success. Well, things on this score had
been quiet for a while, but last week a new e-mail campaign began
against me, one that is directed at Fox News and Georgetown
University. I commented acidly or flippantly to most of these notes,
but it became clear that this campaign was different from the others
...

http://www.ihr.org/     http://heretical.com/

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com


author: Capt. Justice

subject:
Re:Palace Revolution=First Petraeus, then Allen-who's
	next?=J.Raimondo

text:
Palace Revolution...First Petraeus, then Allen - who's next?
                                                           .
by Justin Raimondo, November 14, 2012
                                                            .
The political class is aghast at the spectacle of one after another of
their holy icons falling: first it was David Petraeus, outed by a lone
FBI agent in Tampa who took the discovery of his affair with Paula
Broadwell to the House Republican leadership and effectively dynamited
the CIA chieftain's career. Now it's Gen. John Allen, commander of US
forces in Afghanistan: the discovery of his 'thousands of pages of
emails' to Jill Kelley - a 37-year-old looker whose complaints of
email 'harassment' garnered the full attention of the FBI and led to the
downfall of Petraeus - has him in the dock.
                                                            .
Who's next?
                                                            .
One could easily succumb to the temptation to simply cackle, like Madame
Defarge, and attend to one's knitting as heads roll. Rather than give in
to such pure indulgence, however, this writer would much prefer to
pursue the answer to a puzzling question: what is going on here? Is this
just about the rutting habits of the lords and ladies of Washington, the
national security realm's version of Days of Our Lives'" or is what
we're witnessing the equivalent of a palace revolution?
                                                            .
I would go with what Paula Broadwell's father, Paul Kranz, told the New
York Daily News:
Of course there is, but what in the name of all that's holy is it?
                                                          .
There have been three major developments in this fast-moving story since
my last column on this subject: 1) The stunning revelation by Broadwell
in a speech given at the University of Denver that there were detainees
in the Benghazi 'consulate' ' really a CIA station '" and that the
attack may have been an attempt to free them, and 2) the rising
visibility of the 'shirtless guy,' the Tampa FBI agent whose
impatience with the progress of the investigation led him to go to the
House GOP leadership, an act that sealed Petraeus's fate " and, perhaps,
Gen. Allen's. Which brings us to 3) the ensnaring of Gen. Allen in the
Broadwell-Petraeus net, which adds much fuel to an already raging fire.
                                                           .
The Benghazi angle may help bring the 'why' of this whole imbroglio
into sharper focus. First, let's set the context: Fox News and the
Republicans had been making a full-bore effort to turn the Benghazi
attack into a 'scandal' that would bring down the Obama
administration, an "October surprise" that would make short work of
the anti-colonialist Kenyan. They spun a narrative that had the
President of the United States - and his CIA Director
- ordering a rescue team to "stand down"   while Ambassador Chris
Stevens, and     three others, were murdered by Islamists. Broadwell's
"by the way there were detainees in there" remark, uttered almost
offhand, was pushback, no doubt encouraged by Petraeus.
                                                           .
The "shirtless guy," who earned this description because he
reportedly sent shirtless photos of himself to Jill Kelley  'the
recipient of Broadwell's 'harassing  emails' enters the picture as
the key catalyst who set the anti-Petraeus coup in motion. We are told
he is a friend of someone with a connection to Rep. Reichert (R-WA), who
brought the matter to Rep. Cantor's office. But hold on, wait a minute
here.
                                                           .
Since when does the FBI investigate 'harassing' emails sent to an
ordinary American citizen? Sure, Kelley had a friend in the FBI 'the
Shirtless Guy' but    the question is why did the FBI's   cybercrimes
section agree to launch a lengthy and costly investigation into emails
that, by some accounts, weren't that big a deal? The Shirtless Guy, who
is said to have become so obsessed with the case that he was taken off
it, must have developed some suspicion of who was behind the emails, and
the nature of Broadwell's connection to Petraeus.
                                                           .
Whose instrument was he?                   .
                                                           .
I gave my own view of the answer to this question in my last column, and
the attempt to take down Gen. Allen seems to confirm my analysis. Who,
you ask, would want Allen's scalp? Well, consider the General's comments
after the latest blue-green attack in Afghanistan:
                                                            .
"ISAF commander General John Allen told US 60 Minutes program in an
interview recorded before the latest incident, and scheduled to be aired
today, that insider attacks were unacceptable.
"I'm mad as hell about them, to be honest with you," he said. "We're
willing to sacrifice a lot for this campaign, but we're not willing to
be murdered for it."
"Gen. Allen said that just as homemade bombs had become the signature
weapon of the Iraq war, he believed that in Afghanistan, 'the signature
attack that we're beginning to see is going to be the insider
attack."
                                                           .
Insider attacks make up the great majority of US casualties in
Afghanistan, these days, and with the Obama administration about to
undergo a general review of our troop levels in that country, Allen's
open hostility to the mission would not sit well with the more hawkish
faction in the national security apparatus, i.e. the neocons and their
fellow travelers. So, he had to go, too - and it's a 'nice' touch
that they managed to get him in the     course of the same
investigation, without   having to bother cooking up another  scandal.
Good work, boys!
                                                           .
One aspect of the Great Pentagon Purge that has gone almost completely
unnoticed is this offhand little tidbit in a Washington Post story about
the scandal,
"Prominent members of conservative, Washington-based defense think tanks
were given permanent office space at [Petraeus's] headquarters and
access to military aircraft to tour the battlefield. They provided
advice to field commanders that sometimes conflicted with orders the
commanders were getting from their immediate bosses.
                                                           .
"Some of Petraeus's staff officers said he and the American mission in
Afghanistan benefited from the broader array of viewpoints, but others
complained that the outsiders were a distraction, the price of his
growing fame."
                                                           .
So the neocons were right there looking over Petraeus's shoulder, and
his successor's shoulder, giving 'advice' that went against orders
from the top, i.e. they were undermining the mission as conceived by the
Pentagon, and no doubt actively subverting the planned withdrawal. Did
Gen. Allen throw them out? That he's been caught in the honey trap along
with Petraeus should come as no surprise.
                                                          .
The military is quite a distinct entity from the War Party, and this
should be obvious to anyone who has been alert to the internal debates
in the national security bureaucracy over the course of the past decade
or so. There was pushback from the CIA and the diplomatic community
during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, with spooks anonymously
debunking the "weapons of mass destruction" canard to the point where
Dick Cheney had to personally go over to Langley and stand over them to
make sure they toed the neocon line. There has been a similar rebellion
against the idea of going to war with Iran, another neocon crusade. The
military is tired of these endless wars: after all, they are the ones
who have to fight them, and are inevitably blamed when failure becomes
all too apparent (and the neocons run for cover).
                                                          .
There has to come a point when the military is thoroughly fed up with
being the instrument of a ruthless and bloodthirsty cabal who think
nothing of sacrificing US servicemen and servicewomen on the altar of
their bloody ambitions. When that happens, from the War Party's
perspective, it's time to get rid of them. While the means utilized may
be rather complicated, it's really just as simple as that.
                                                           .
I should emphasize that this is a working hypothesis: an attempt to make
sense out of what seems utterly senseless - the immolation of the top
tiers of the US military and intelligence establishment. We'll know much
more when the genesis of this investigation - a probe into a
'cybercrime' allegedly committed against an unpaid 'social
liaison' at Tampa's MacDill Air Force base - is revealed in more
detail.
                                                           .
With every passing moment, however, as more facts comes out, what began
as a suspicion is fast turning into a near certainty. Just look at who
is now being pushed to succeed Petraeus at the CIA
" yes," I'm talking about none other than JANE HARMAN, the same person
who was overheard in the course of a wiretapped conversation telling a
""suspected Israeli agent""  she would intervene to get the charges
against Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman reduced.
                                                          .
Rosen and Weissman were caught red-handed stealing US secrets and
funneling them to their Israeli handlers. In return, the Israeli agent
promised AIPAC "the high-powered pro-Israel lobby " would put pressure
on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to get Harman appointed head of the House
intelligence committee. .           .

The prosecution rests - for the moment.
                                                           .
Update: This story is moving really fast, and there have been a number
of important developments in the few hours after I submitted it, but
before it was posted. To begin with, Paula Broadwell's house has been
raided by the FBI: they searched every room in the house and carried out
her computer and other items.
                                                           .
This points in the direction of a national security investigation, not
one focused on a charge of simple "cyber-stalking.' But of course we
knew that with the first report of finding classified information on her
computer.
                                                           .
In addition, more information has come out about the Shirtless Guy, the
Tampa-based FBI agent who took Jill Kelley's complaint to the Bureau.
The New York Times, citing an anonymous FBI official, reports:
                                                         .
[T]he agent became convinced - incorrectly, the official said  that the
case had stalled. Because of his "worldview" as the official put it, he
suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama.
The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the
F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the
agent's concerns.
                                                          .
"The official said the agent's self-described 'whistle-blowing' was 'a
little embarrassing' but had no effect on the investigation."
                                                          .
But it had a huge effect on Petraeus, who at that point was still hoping
to keep his affair with Broadwell a secret. However, the proverbial cat
had already clawed its way out of the bag. On Oct. 31, when Cantor's
office placed a call to FBI Director John Mueller, and on Election Day
the Justice Department informed John Clapper, director of National
Intelligence. Clapper insisted Petraeus step down.
                                                            .
What's interesting is that this was clearly ideologically motivated: no
need to wonder about the Shirtless One's "worldview." Clearly he was
striking a blow against what he considered the dire threat of Kenyan
anti-colonialism - and that meant taking down Petraeus. Clearly he
intended the revelation of the affair to take down the Obama
administration, but Cantor held back. Why? We can't know for sure, quite
yet, but my view is that he wanted the head of Petraeus even more than
he wanted Obama's - and, at that point, perhaps he figured it wouldn't
have helped Romney in any event.
                                                         .
In any case, the supposed hero of the neocons, the author of the Iraqi
"surge" which supposedly "won" that losing war, and the architect
of a new counterinsurgency doctrine the failure of which has been
portrayed as one long uninterrupted triumph - David Petraeus, who at one
time was rumored to be the neocons' favored presidential candidate,
wound up on top of the rather large heap of bodies they've managed to
pile up over the years. After he pulls the knife out of his back, and
has time to reflect on the demise of a once gloriously successful career
as an icon of American militarism, perhaps he'll tell us the whole story
in his memoirs. It should be quite a read.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN                    .
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/11/13/palace-revolution-2/

                                                          .
My appeal to get my Twitter followers up to 2,000 has succeeded - but
let's not stop there! I use Twitter as a kind of bulletin board, where I
post much of the material I'm going to use in my column: it's very
convenient that way, and also a good way to spread the message of
non-interventionism while engaging the Bad Guys cyber-face to
cyber-face, so to speak. In short, it's a lot of fun, so don't miss out:
you can follow me on Twitter here.

                                                        .
Read more by Justin Raimondo
                                                        .
A Covert Affair:
Petraeus Caught in the Honeypot? - November 11th, 2012
                                                         .
Next Stop: Syria ? November 8th, 2012
                                                         .
Election 2012: Ron Paul's Revenge! - November 6th, 2012

The Mystery Behind the Benghazi Attack - November 4th, 2012

Romney's Neocons - November 1st, 2012
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/11/13/palace-revolution-2/


subject: Re: Lawyer-turned-rabbi disbarred after admitting to massive fraud

text:
Lawyer-turned-rabbi disbarred after admitting to massive fraud
                                                           .
Prosecutors say Earl David netted millions of dollars from fraud.
                                                           .
By Reuters  |  Nov.09, 2012 | 6:31 PM   .   .

Attorney-turned-rabbi Earl David has been disbarred, six months after
pleading guilty to running a multimillion-dollar immigration fraud mill
through a New York law firm.
                                                          .
David fled to Canada in 2006 when he learned his company, the David Firm
in Manhattan, was under investigation, authorities said. The
dual-Canadian-U.S. citizen was arrested last year in Canada and
extradited in January to face federal charges in New York.
                                                          .
David agreed to forfeit $2.5 million when he pleaded guilty to
conspiracy and wire fraud charges in April. He has not yet been
sentenced.
                                                          .
The disciplinary committee of the First Department, Appellate Division,
disbarred him retroactively to April, according to a decision released
Thursday.
                                                         .
Prosecutors said David and others charged up to $30,000 to file fake
employment letters on behalf of illegal immigrants, beginning in 1996.
                                                         .
In 2003, writing under the name Earl Avraham David, he wrote "Code of
the Heart," a treatise on Hebrew numerology that claimed to reveal
predictions of the future based on a hidden code in the Bible.
Prosecutors said he used a bank account in the name of the book to
continue to profit from the fraud.
                                                          .  David,
whose firm prosecutors said netted millions of dollars from the fraud,
was suspended from practicing law in 2004. But prosecutors said he
continued to run the scheme, even after fleeing to Canada, where he
became a regular member of a small Orthodox temple in Toronto.
                                                           .
David had previously participated in a separate securities fraud,
money-laundering and bribery scheme in the early 1990s but agreed at the
time to testify for the prosecution, helping the Securities and Exchange
Commission and criminal authorities convict nearly 40 defendants.
                                                          .
He was suspended for 15 months for that conduct, after a panel of judges
at the First Department credited him with his efforts on behalf of the
government, even as he had already begun operating the immigration
scheme, prosecutors said.
David did not oppose the disbarment, according to his lawyer, Avraham
Moskowitz.
                                                         .
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/lawyer-turned-rabbi-disbarred-after-admitting-to-massive-fraud-1.476478


author: TheZ

subject: Re: typical Jews

text:
I was always under the impression you had to have a job to get fired

"Topaz" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...


subject: Re: AFP PODCAST & ARTICLE: No Fly List for Thought "Crimes"

text:
AFP PODCAST & ARTICLE: No Fly List for Thought "Crimes"
                                                        .
November 01, 2012   AFP                  .
AFP PODCAST
                                                        .
Wade Hicks, Jr., 34, a professional mariner by trade, father of one,
from Gulfport, Mississippi, was on his way to visit his wife, a U.S.
Naval Officer with the Seabees stationed in Okinawa, Japan, when the
plane he was traveling on, a C-5 Galaxy, from Travis Air Force Base,
stopped at Hickam Air Force Base in Hawaii to refuel. It was there that
he was notified that he was on the No Fly list, as he explains in this
disturbing interview (55:45).
                                                          .
Patriotic American Put on 'No Fly' List for Voicing Opinions
                                                          .
Yanked off plane and stranded on Hawaii for one week; told free to leave
but not on an airplane                                          .
                                                          .
What began as a trip to visit his wife for a week turned into a
nightmare for a man whose only "crime" was expressing patriotic
views, criticizing the continuing loss of individual liberty in this
country and questioning the United States government's official
conspiracy theory on 9-11.
                                                          .
Wade Hicks, Jr., 34, a professional mariner by trade, father of one,
from Gulfport, Mississippi, was on his way to visit his wife, a U.S.
Naval Officer with the Seabees stationed in Okinawa, Japan, when the
plane he was traveling on, a C-5 Galaxy, from Travis Air Force Base,
stopped at Hickam Air Force Base in Hawaii to refuel. It was there that
he was notified that he was on the No Fly list.
                                                         .
The No Fly List is monitored by the Terrorist Screening Center, and
includes people who are not permitted to board commercial aircraft for
travel in or out of the country. Last year, the list contained about 10K
names.
                                                        .
Hicks, stranded for one week on the Hawaiian island of Oahu, with only
"a backpack and cellphone," and spoke with AMERICAN FREE PRESS the
night before he had been cleared to leave. This tale is revealing due to
the fact that Hicks has never had even as much as a speeding ticket.
                                                          .
"I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do any type of illicit drugs
whatsoever," said Hicks. "I've held some security clearances," and
"I'm also a certified volunteer firefighter and a first responder." "I
do firearms instruction on the side as well." Interestingly, Hicks
had just been issued an enhanced concealed carry permit a few days
before, which entails a thorough Federal Bureau of Investigation
background check.
                                                          .
So why was Hicks, who was traveling on the U.S. military's Air Mobility
Command, put on the list? The answer may lie in his outspoken past.
                                                           .
Several years ago he was given the video 9/11 in Plane Sight.
                                                           .
"After I saw that video," explained Hicks, "my life fundamentally
changed." "I've
had some interesting views about 9-11 that probably led to me being put
on the no-fly list." Additionally, "I've been really outspoken about
the Constitution for quite a long time," and "I started a radio show
called -The Free Speech Zone."
                                                          .
Hicks takes the U.S. Constitution very seriously.
                                                          .
"I may have never been in the military, I'm not a veteran, but I can
tell you one thing," said Hicks, "I'm ready to die for an oath that I've
taken. Not officially, of course, but I've taken the oath to defend the
Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic."
                                                         .
Hicks explained how the ordeal unfolded.
At Travis AFB in California, -no less than four times were my passport
checked, my ID checked, my boarding passes checked and people were
looking at computer terminals when all this was happening. So if there
was any possibility that anything was out of the ordinary, it would've
been discovered at that point. The same procedure was followed at
Hickam.
                                                           .
At a refueling stop at Hickam, "an airman came and got me and told me
that I needed to go get some issues figured out with U.S. Customs," said
Hicks.
"A couple of Air Force security forces personnel showed up. They were
dressed in their battle equipment; spare magazines, M4 rifles. One of
the M4s had a 203 grenade launcher attached, and one of the airmen was
carrying around a 50 caliber ammo can which I would assume had 15 to 20
grenades in it," explained Hicks.
                                                          .
Department of Defense police showed up also, as did senior special agent
from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), who had a message for
Hicks.
"You're on the No Fly list," she said."You cannot fly. You should not
have gotten on that aircraft, but you cannot leave. You cannot leave
this island on an aircraft."
                                                        .
"I was shocked. I told her, I said, "ma'am, this is kind of feeling a
lot like NDAA 2012. I'm being detained by the military right now. This
is falling right in line with some of the same things that I'm vocal
about. This is really scary"
                                                         .
The ICE agent explained that "the people higher up said I was the right
person. There's no way that I'm getting on an airplane."
                                                         .
Stranded at Hickam airport while the plane took off, Hicks was not only
confused but concerned.
                                                          .
"It felt really weird having to have to be escorted to the urinal by
three people with firearms," he said.
                                                           .
After being detained there for between four and five hours, the ICE
agent had a message.
She told me, "There's nothing more we can do here. I'm sorry, but you
can't leave via aircraft. You're free to go."

"I was released," said Hicks. "The gentlemen with the M4s escorted
out of the airport. I was basically exiled in paradise."
                                                          .
Hicks explained his suspicions.
"I never got searched through this entire ordeal, which is very
interesting," he said. "That tends to make me believe that it was
more politically-motivated than intel-motivated, like I may have had
something on my person or in my bag that was questionable. They were not
interested in what I was carrying, they were interested in me."
                                                          .
Hicks is motivated to find out why he was targeted.

                                                           .
"When I do get back to the house," he said, "I'm going to go ahead
and file the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to both the
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as an entire entity and directly
to TSA (Transportation Security Administration) as a sub-entity under
DHS and ask for any and all information that they may have that has my
name on it, my Social Security Number on it, my photos on it, audio
recordings, any type of phone recordings, emails that they've
intercepted. I'm going to ask for everything that they can possibly have
on me."
                                                           .
"The amount of work that I put in to getting myself out of
situation," said Hicks, "I'm gonna keep up that same effort to make
sure that this never happens to another American citizen again."

"This has mentally affected me," he said. "This has changed who I am.
This is the realization of all of my fears come true.'   'I know
they're after me. There's no doubt that they're after me now.'
                       ____                            .
Dave Gahary, a former submariner in the U.S. Navy, is the host of AFP's
"Underground Interview" series.
                                                          .
Be sure to check out all of AFP's free podcasts. You'll find them on the
Home Page, in the Archives & in the Podcast section.

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=6824  .
                                                         .
Posted in: National News


subject: Re: Re: typical Jews

text:
Dr Joseph Goebbels, Der Angriff, 21 January 1929.

The Jew
by Joseph Goebbels

Everything is discussed openly in Germany, and every German claims the
right to have an opinion on any and all questions. One is Catholic,
the other Protestant, one an employee, the other an employer, a
capitalist, a socialist, a democrat, an aristocrat. There is nothing
dishonorable about choosing one side or the other of a question.
Discussions happen in public, and where matters are unclear or
confused one settles it by argument and counter argument. But there is
one problem that is not discussed publicly, one that it is delicate
even to mention: the Jewish question. It is taboo in our republic.
The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a
scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like
water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at
how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've
been found out."

One cannot defend himself against the Jew. He attacks with lightening
speed from his position of safety and uses his abilities to crush any
attempt at defense.

Quickly he turns the attacker's charges back on him, and the attacker
becomes the liar, the troublemaker, the terrorist. Nothing could be
more mistaken than to defend oneself. That is just what the Jew wants.
He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the
result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he
has no time to do what the Jew really fears: to attack. The accused
has become the accuser, and loudly he shoves the accuser into the
dock. So it always was in the past when a person or a movement fought
the Jew. That is what would happen to us as well were we not fully
aware of his nature, and if we lacked the courage to draw the
following radical conclusions:

1. One cannot fight the Jew by positive means. He is a negative, and
this negative must be erased from the German system, or he will
forever corrupt it.

2. One cannot discuss the Jewish question with the Jews. One can
hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.

3. One cannot allow the Jew the same means one would give an honest
opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. He will use generosity and
nobility only to trap his enemy.

4. The Jew has nothing to say about German questions. He is a
foreigner, an alien, who only enjoys the rights of a guest, rights
that he always abuses.

5. The so-called religious morality of the Jews is no morality at all,
rather an encouragement to betrayal. Therefore, they have no claim to
protection from the state.

6. The Jew is not smarter than we are, rather only cleverer and
craftier. His system cannot be defeated economically-he follows
entirely different moral principles than we do. It can only be broken
through political means.

7. A Jew cannot insult a German. Jewish slanders are but badges of
honor for a German opponent of the Jews.

8. The more a German person or a German movement opposes the Jew, the
more valuable it is. If someone is attacked by the Jews, that is a
sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the Jews, or who
is praised by them, is useless and dangerous.

9. The Jew evaluates German questions from the Jewish standpoint. As a
result, the opposite of what he says must be true.

10. One must either affirm or reject anti-Semitism. He who defends the
Jews harms his own people. One can only be a Jewish lackey or a Jewish
opponent. Opposing the Jews is a matter of personal hygiene.
These principles give the anti-Jewish movement a chance of success.
Only such a movement will be taken seriously by the Jews, only such a
movement will be feared by them.

The fact that he shouts and complains about such a movement therefore
is only a sign that it is right. We are therefore delighted that we
are constantly attacked in the Jewish gazettes. They may shout about
terror. We answer with Mussolini's familiar words: "Terror? Never! It
is social hygiene. We take these individuals out of circulation just
as a doctor does to a bacterium.

http://www.ihr.org/     http://heretical.com/

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com


author: Samuel Harrigon

subject:
Re: No Christmas for gays - Remember, they don't believe in God and
 hate religious groups

text:
On Dec 24, 8:24 pm, "Andre Tice" <[email]> wrote:

Simple fact--all homosexuals will go to hell.
Those who do not celebrate Christmas will go to hell.

Rev. Samuel Harrigon
-Good Old Gospel Ship Church


author: Gunner Asch

subject: Re: No Christmas for gays - Remember, they don't believe in God and hate religious groups

text:
On 25 Dec 2011 02:24:00 -0000, "Andre Tice" <[email]> wrote:

How so?

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


author: Francis Tidwell

subject: Re: No Christmas for gays - Remember, they believe in and FEAR God while hate religious groups

text:
On 24 Dec 2011, "Andre Tice" <[email]> posted some
news:[email]:

I fixed the subject for you Andre.

Queers fear any mention of God and religion.  Their psychological profile
is well documented in this respect.


author: [redacted]

text:
On 25 Dec 2011 02:24:00 -0000, "Andre Tice" <[email]> wrote:

For thousands of years before your Jesus, the mid winter festival was celebrated.

Christians came along, and gradually managed to get the 25th of December, re-named
"Christ's Mass", and eventually Christmas.

But it was never really a christian holiday, or celebration,  there was more of
Saturnalia, than christianity, to the point where christmas was banned by the church, at
one time.

Fact is, it is only in the last century and a half, that the festival we know as
christmas, has evolved, and what it has evolved into, is another Saturnalia, a pagan
feast, with only minimal christian influence.

***

  The spelling, like any opinion stated here,

   is purely my own

     Puck Greenman  #162

       BAAWA Knight.


author: WangoTango

text:
In article <[email]>, [email]
says...

Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've read today, but the day isn't
over.

I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that believe in the Christian
god.  They just don't believe that it/he/she hates them.  How could a
loving god hate one of its' children?


author: Shall not be infringed

text:
On Dec 24 2011, 9:24 pm, "Andre Tice" <[email]> wrote:

Why?

Many gays are Christians.

Didn't you know that?


author: dolf

subject:
-- No Christmas for gays - Remember, they don't believe in God and
 hate religious groups

text:
I have sent the following reply to the person I was dialoging with and
whom has hysterically mischaracterised my substantive view.

I will not enter into the futility of your response excepting to say
that I have a niece who has Filipino mother (the father of Dutch /
Friesian origins has had the sense to have a vasectomy) and I am
entitled to challenge you on facts your no Asian and no willy comments
as projections of your values which ought not be made in your  profile.

But I have place them into the public arena by disseminating your
comments into Google Groups as part of my Christmas philanthropy and
will also in the next chapter of my book.

You can search for it under the title "YOUR BUTT IS SOMETHING TO BE
PROUD OF BOY!"

I have Manhunt Support Services contact me with a false characterisation
of my statements--that such a complaint is a malicious (and
unforgivable) act and is certainly not in keeping with your Christmas
tone of your msg.

On 25/12/11 1:33 PM, Samuel Harrigon wrote:

The escort said to me this morning as his homage and ability to
recognise my majesty in simplicity of being: "Dolf I just woke up and
want to say thank you for your understanding and patience."

I said, "I've had restful periods but no sleep as yet.

I'm still of the opinion, it was a great opportunity to meet you and
there was no more advantageous time than just before Christmas--and so
pleased that all issues of hospitality were so easy to organise.

I hope we catch up again. dolf"

He said, "U write like Charles Dickens. Was he on crack"

I said, "Language comes from inner being and experience--I don't have
any shame in the use of a wide vocabulary."

He said, "Touche!"

I said to my boy, "You know my sweet boy, he was jealous that I had a
boy like you.  And that gave me a greater sense of satisfaction than his
cock would ever give.

I had conveyed to him that I had done much work in preparation by your
handiwork to his manhood.

He enjoyed my hospitality for 12 hours and wants me as a buddy--so
enamored was he."

He is Monet's equal and I will wash my body with the once used soap
which bears his impression of being so that when the scum of day is
washed away, he yet remains with me."

I had given him on CD ROM a copy of www-page and work in progress
representing some 16 years of labour, and said to him and another buddy
who because my welcome of him included his friends, "This is a work as
technological solution of a metaphysical, philosophical and theological
nature which is designed to use the provocation of sexuality as weapon
of war against religious militancy and provides the justification for
the adoption of legislative changes necessary to grant gays and lesbians
the right to marry.

And that this work has been undertaken by an individual who as a
statement of public record, engages in recreational sexual activity with
a multitude, so that gay men and lesbians who have aspirations for
marriage, may never claim by such act, any moral or integral superiority
or an act of fidelity towards the soul of another and against my
lifestyle choice."

I have stood against the impiety and haughtiness which is gay culture
and excepting for a few whom I am most proud, for the rest I have no
regard for.

Whilst I also have no female friends in my life, I do care enough about
my community. And during the course of disposing of insulin related
items as biological waste at the exchange, I was wished a Merry
Christmas by a woman there--so I went home and gave her a copy on CD ROM
as well.

Keep your soul sister, and Merry Christmas to you too.

I had given to my boy a copy of my book on CD ROM as a Christmas gift
for his 75 yo Grandmother who is Catholic with a knowledge that the
author of this work was the same individual who stood in defiance with
an escort as the only friends in support of the Gay and Lesbian Rainbow
Sash Protests against Roman Catholic refusal of communion.

I share a special bond with my boy. On the same ANZAC DAY he killed a
man, by recklessly throwing a glass and wounding him in the face, the
force so great that he stumbled back and struck his head as he fell.
The brain injury as swelling which resulted, then killed him.

My boy went to prison for 15 months, and if I were to fuck him in the
manner he was there--it would be considered abuse.

But I've told him that I'm looking forward to fucking him exceptionally
well he gets back.

He knows that I protested on that same ANZAC Day against the pornography
which was Private Jack Kovco's perverse premeditated conduct as
otherwise inconsequential life in making a video documentary of his
military service as self promotion--As grounds for his reckless and
intended behaviour in frustrating accepted policy on disarmament in the
company of others and his overtly repulsive effeminate mannerism as
contrivance of gay identity by prancing in underwear--He terminated his
life.

He was no hero and I was glad his body did not make it back in time so
as to not interfere on the sensibilities of ANZAC Day.  And neither was
my dawn watch with Today Program TV crew at the Briagolong War Memorial
a futile act.

Later that day, I stood in my own Rainbow Sash protest against the life
of private Jack Kovco--and in the course of which I was arrested and
lodged in the watch house until the ceremony of the day was undertaken.

I was struck with such force that it hurt for weeks afterwards.  For
some considerable time, I was subject to humiliation by being placed in
the cage within the police vehicle immediately outside the hotel and to
the enjoyment of the patrons within.  So I asked for God to take his
vengeance on them.

And I took solace in fact that God had previously for me, exercised his
power as providence by road kill (just meters away), a pedestrian who
staggered home one night just prior to my relocation there--the same man
who had insulted me as a gay man on the night I was making my decision
to live there, and went to the pub to meet the locals: I had bought him
a drink as a sop--drink and die was my desire for him that night.

It is a matter of record, as psychiatric notes in a medical file of my
voluntary undertaking such an assessment--and this medical opinion made
much of the fact that I was so disturbed at the conduct of private Jack
Kovco as the reckless conduct towards to the State as self harming
behaviour in putting a bullet to his head.

The psychiatrist could not comprehend any connectedness between the
events of Jack Kovco's fiasco and my own activities as cause for protest
in outrage to the offence to my sensibilities which Kovco's conduct
caused.  And neither is he aware, that unless my twin-sister who worked
as a doctor's clinical nurse in that community and therefore personally
knew Jake Kovco's mother--that unless she recants her support of the
family view as the only and substantial reality to which they bow in
subservience, there is nothing further between us and I will not so much
as attend her funeral should she depart before me.

And on that ANZAC day, I have no doubt of God's handiwork as he mocked
them--the earth shook violently and three men were taken prisoner and
held for contempt in an underground mine.  And in watch care of my soul
and that of my boy--a life was crushed that day.

And later there was a journalist deprived of life as well--one minute he
was standing by the mine in the company of his peers attending to a
story which held the nation anxious and the next he was dead.

And if I was to say that the Equal Opportunity Commissioner of Victoria
is deserving of such a bullet to the head, as I did in a document
written some 6 months earlier and given to my then General Practitioner
Dr. Mark Bloch of Holdsworthy House because I presumptuously believed
his Jewish heritage, would be of some merit in his capacity to
understand the document before him.

Without ever entering into any discussion (then or subsequent) on the
nature, purpose and intent of my 16 years labour then in progress and
some 700 km distance away from the Commissioner described by that
colourful reference, this perverse Jewish doctor, falsely characterised
my conduct as threatening and it resulted in six police breaking down
the door of my apartment-to forcibly arrest me.  My protest of their
actions simply became justification for they're detaining me for
psychiatric assessment for a period of three weeks--I was released only
when I underwent a spinal lumber puncture so that a cerebral viral load
could be determined and the hypothesis disproved, that a disease state
was not having any consequential influence on my psychological health
and the non-existent ground which drove their claim for action.

Whilst subject to that administrative process as the pleasure of the
State, my apartment remained unsecured and I was burgled and subject to
a loss of some $16,000.  And no-one wishes to be accountable for that loss.

I had a discussion with my guest as escort about his experience with my
previous General Practitioner. And specifically of my considerations to
take legal him and whether I ought to embitter my life by that action
consuming it all.

He was also present and my counsellor, when my Jewish neighbour SMS'd me
and characterised my description of the strata of male / female
transformative prototypes as mathematical descriptors of daemons which
comprise the Grapple Cube."

My Jewish neighbour: "Is this a joke?"

I said, "No it is actually true and factual and supported by empirical
data."

My Jewish neighbour: "Ok. I read it 5 times and still didn't get it.
Too much jargon and too information dense for me."

I said, "You don't even understand Kabbalah so what is your opinion worth?"

My Jewish neighbour: "Wow, arrogant AND pretentious? Nice."

I said, "Not at all, if you had an understanding of the basic model of
Kabbalah you would known the elements of that structure.

I showed you the two books on this area of Kabbalah focus by Rabbi Aryeh
Kaplan."

My Jewish neighbour: "When? Over Grindr while I was out wandering the
streets? I don't remember that but granted it isn't a niche I'm at all
interested in."

I said, "When you came to my apartment and had sex.

The two chapters which deal with the subject are conveyed in the
Cruising and Mens Rea tabs of my www-page."

All that I need do is hold my previous General Practitioner Mark Bloch
in public disdain--neither my boy who killed a man on ANZAC Day and my
own protest of the day are matters we should have shame over--But there
is contempt to our Australia values which Doctor Mark Bloch has shown by
his lack of regard as a grievance of soul, he will not live with any
hope for eternity and his privileged life in our society will now cease
because to them he must give account.

And today I have set that course in motion by responding to the cultural
values expressed in a Manhunt profile, by an Elizabeth Bay neighbour as
a 33yo gay man of "Lithuanian, German, Filipino and Spanish" heritage.

CANGANTISMO said, "Up to meet guys for social connection or fun. I'm
creative and like film. Been living in Brisbane most of the year. Now
back and glad to be so.

Message me if you want me to unlock face pics, or have something fun to
say. I'm not perfect and I don't expect you to be -- but I do love to
connect with people who are intelligent and playful.

Pls don't message me if your only photos are of your willie. We're all
male, after all.

Also, a little note to those who have "no asians" on their profile: I'm
part Lithuanian, part German, part Filipino*, part Spanish. I'll leave
you to puzzle over the ratio if that's important to you"

I said, "I've got some news for you mate:

When one see's a man with a good sized cock having a piss by a tree in
Kings Cross, the best thing to do is star and say nice cock dude.  And
man with a with a sense of pride in their manhood would have pleasure in
that remark.

I have nothing to do with any gay asian (Chinese particularly but non
exclusively) because they have no connectedness with their culture as
knowledge of I Ching and Dao Te Ching as regimes of regulated governance
and belief which to have been abandoned under communism.

As there remains common attribute of mind between us--I don't regard
them.  I raise this in debate with one individual asian and had to
concede my point.

My advice as a person of Dutch / Friesian heritage which as a mindset
and lifestyle in this country is always depreciated by Australians of
Anglo-Celtic origins and especially of immigrants--the notion of
indigenous dutch australians doesn't even enter into Australian
vernacular as lexicon.

Whilst a bastard status of yours as cesspool conglomeration is viewed as
a virtue--it is not and neither ought our superior heritage and values
be values be impugned by your barbarism.

I have after all a model of soul and eternity which is able to exercise
a mode of exclusion as revenge on those societies which produced you as
probably a catholic dog.

So shut the fuck up, and modify your profile."

CANGANTISMO said, "Will I shut up, and will I modify my profile? In a
word: No.

Fortunately for me, my profile is something you do not have control
over. So, if you have a big investment in other people modifying
themselves to fit your ideals, then you deserve the disappointment that
is your just reward.

Some information for you:

1) I Ching/ Dao Te Ching originates from a Chinese tradition. There are
other asian countries besides China, which have different cultural/
ideological histories.

2) Not all asian countries have a political history that includes
communism. This is particularly true of south-east asian countries.

3) You seem to have misunderstood my profile. The point I am making is
that genetic heritage does not predispose a person to particular
personality traits or ideologies. People should be taken as they are at
face value.

Having a particular racial makeup does not mean that you should then be
assigned a specific cultural ideal to live up to. To use a concrete
example: I was born in the Philippines to a Filipina mother --> I do not
deserve to be accused of betraying Daoist ideals through communism.
Surely this is just common sense.

4) Your statements are not "news to me". The kind of rant I have just
heard from you is not unique or particularly inspired. It's not as
though I haven't encountered people like you before.

So anyway, chill out and have a good Christmas. And might I suggest
engaging in a few hobbies that might help with anger management."

I said, "There is no common ground between you and I. And there is now
included an antagonistic to our Australian values as ANZAC
heritage--which will reduce you to silence: this is my Christmas story 2011.

You substantiate my claim that gay men particularly in the Kings Cross /
Darlinghurst area are not worth knowing--And I will not accept their
haughtiness or any Asian persons making claims on our freedom when you
have no modesty about your lack of piety as repentance--There is no
regard between us.  And I will hold firmly those views until there a
proper dignity afforded to my own actions.

Neither my boy nor I have to feel any sense of shame in having
transgressed values which are most sacred as our ANZAC tradition--but
you are antagonistic to those traditions and there will be no joyous
peace of soul for you.

The force of public opinion about the truth of this story, will
invariably have a consequence upon you.

Merry Christmas to my friends and I hope you like my gift.

- www.grapple369.com


author: Colanth

text:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:33:56 -0800 (PST), Samuel Harrigon
<[email]> wrote:

It's your hell, so you go to it.


author: Paul Duca

text:
On Dec 26, 7:05 am, duke <[email]> wrote:
Sounds like Duke might be your butt-buddy there...

Paul


subject: Duck Egg Duke Supports Anti-Gay Bigotry and Hatred

text:
On Dec 26, 6:05 am, duke <[email]> wrote:

Since you can provide no evidence for any of your inane fairy takes,
as you've openly admtited here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/983273c63eeeb936/af6e0ef884870c35#af6e0ef884870c35
the only thing that's worth noting in your above message is your
hatred and bigotry towards those who are different from you.  Is that
what Jesus would do?

You know, the *only* lasting impression jerk-wads like you, Loirbaj,
Rat Prick, Us4Lying et all leave on the world wide web is what
intolerant, lying, cowardly vacuous bigoted hypocrites you are.
You've proven repeatedly that you are quite ready to abandon every
last one of your supposed Christian principles at the drop of a hat.

Good luck with trying to win people over to *your* hatred-filled
faith, jackass.

Budikka


subject: Duke's Documented Cowardice and Lies

text:
Here's an abridged list of threads in which Duke has been asked
serious questions about his position, from which he has run like
diarrhea.  Unlike Duck Egg Duke, who can make claims but who RUNS from
all requests that he support those claims (see the very first item in
the list for details of his most recent cowardice, here's
documentation of Duke's refusal to witness for his god.

Most recently, there's this one:

Dec 26th, 2011

Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
*given* *a* *second* *chance* to produce it, he fled the challenge!

http://tinyurl.com/7kawokn

Dec. 24th 2011

Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
challenged to produce it, he fled the challenge!

http://tinyurl.com/6m4ub5q

Sept. 5th 2011

asked for evidence for this Jesus of his.  Duck & Run ducked & ran!

http://tinyurl.com/3brposl

On January 22, 2011, under the title: "Chicken Duke Has a Beautifully
Clean Pair of heels Does he Not?" I requested "Please provide
independent evidence - that is, from *outside* the Bible - that there
ever was a Jesus Christ, miracle working son of a god."

Chicken Duke couldn't do it.

http://tinyurl.com/4h6wdzm

Then there was this:

http://tinyurl.com/4dk7aoz

Jan 16, 2011, I requested this of Chicken Duke:

please provide *positive* *scientific* evidence for a creator or for a
creation, and post it right here in response to this message.

This was in response to his assertion that "Existence mandates
creation".

He ran away.

http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j

December 22nd 2010, in which Chicken Duke was challenged to support
statements he has made repeatedly on Usenet.  Once again he ran from
them like the stinking diarrhea he is and hid behind an irrelevant and
dishoenst non-sequitur.

Prior to that he ran from a similar challenge just the day before(!):

He ran from a challenge to support his bullshit on December 21st,
2010:

http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j

And just the month before that:

http://tinyurl.com/2d5xtf3

November 20th 2010, he ran form these five simple questions rather
than support his god, thereby proving that he's nothing but another
limp Peter at the passion!

Here are the questions:

1.  That the figure you quoted is true.

2.  That they all believe in the *same* deity.

3.  That this single deity actually exists

4.  That this single deity actually created the universe

5.  That this single deity is not a figment of their imagination

Here's my prediction at the time:

Time to show us that clean pair of heels again, Chicken Duck & Run.

Yep - he ran!

Claimed there are "gargantuan holes" in the Theory of Evolution and
then RAN when I called him on it:

http://tinyurl.com/27kf2da

The entire "Why There Isn't a God" series, started here:

http://tinyurl.com/6b9et

Duck & Run Ran Away - that is to say he failed 100% to actually get to
grips with the subject matter in any of those threads, his 'response'
consisting solely of chanting "no it isn't" or words to that effect.
He could offer no rebuttal, let alone refutation, he could not support
a single thing he claimed and he could offer zero rationale for his
position.

Let's face it, on this basis, he's run away from the entire "Why the
Holy Bible Lies" series, the entire "Why There Was No Flood" series,
and all of the the "Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid"
series so far.

Petition to Save the Hubble Telescope

Duck & Run makes yet another blind claim "it's the same old sky" he
blathers, like there couldn't possibly be anything new to discover,
yet I proved him entirely wrong - again.

http://tinyurl.com/2qmyz

Scientists find new face on back of Turin shroud

http://tinyurl.com/2bx6jcf

Duck & Run, shrouded in cowardice, ran away.

The Inquisition

http://tinyurl.com/4pokf

Duck & Run didn't expect the inquisition....

Another Problem for Creation IDiots

http://tinyurl.com/3px9j

Duck & Run proved to be a creation IDiot.

Human aspect of Jesus

http://tinyurl.com/4w488

Duck and Run has provided us with a de facto admission that there was
no Jesus Christ, miracle-working son-of-a-god.

Jesus's three days sacrifice

http://tinyurl.com/3jhop

Duck & Run sacrificed the truth and got caught.

Which is the real God???

http://tinyurl.com/6bnoo

Duck & Run didn't know.

God isn't very smart about spreading his word, is he?

http://tinyurl.com/7xjux

Neither is Duck & Run.

Why did Mekkla run away from a discussion of Heb 8:7-13?

http://tinyurl.com/4v759

Duck & Run opened this thread to accuse someone else of running away.
As soon as he was challenged, Duck & Run ran away!

Why Didn't Jesus Die Sooner?

http://tinyurl.com/5gevm

Duck & Run's claims died sooner.

Why is Duke Such a Coward?

http://tinyurl.com/5p3qt

Duck & Run ran away, proving what a coward he is.

Duck & Run's five evidences of god

(that he later admitted were not evidences):

http://tinyurl.com/3otzr

Questions that Duke Can't Answer

(in which I accused Duck & Run of running away and from which
he...**RAN AWAY**!  The questions remain unanswered.  There are only
ten numbered questions in this thread, assembled from previous threads
from which

Duck & Run ran away.  Duck & Run lied there were 75 questions
and...ran away!)

http://tinyurl.com/5ozyl

There are now well over one hundred unanswered questions that Duck &
Run has fled.  Here's the bulk of them:

http://tinyurl.com/ad89u

http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y

Duck & Run thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven
centuries, gave rise to Mithraism:

http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk

Duck & Run ran away.

Duke: Global Flood Challenge

A thread which I opened specifically at Duck & Run's request, and from
which he, predictably, ran away.  He admitted there is no evidence for
a global flood, I presented abundant evidence that there never was
one,

Duck & Run offered zero rebuttal and ran away as he again did in the
recent flood series.

http://tinyurl.com/4l83y

Evidence that Duke can't refute:

http://tinyurl.com/5l2av

Duck & Run failed to refute the evidence and ran away, thereby proving
my case

An Answer to Pascal's Wager

http://tinyurl.com/4y63n

In which I accuse Duck & Run of running away.  He ran away!

Thread: "Why Puke is Such a Pathological, Unregenerate, Cowardly,
Lying, Hypocritical Asshole"

http://tinyurl.com/4ant3

Duck & Run ran away because he's a pathological, unregenerate,
cowardly, lying hypocritical asshole.

Thread: "Duke's Chronic lying"

http://tinyurl.com/3ra8l

Duck & Run ran away.

Thread: "aqotm - bud(ikka) style"

http://tinyurl.com/4r4gz

Duck & Run ran away from his own clueless stupidity

Thread: "Duke: Global Flood Challenge"

http://tinyurl.com/3qd5m

Duck & Run was out of his depth - as he's recently proven again - and
so he...ran away!

Thread: "The Bland Assumption of Jesus' Existence"

http://tinyurl.com/5kj3m

Duck & Run ran away as I blandly assumed he would.

Thread: "Running Scriptural Circles Around Duke"

http://tinyurl.com/3ozwo

Duck & Run ran away after I ran scriptural circles around him

And my favorite:

http://tinyurl.com/487vc

This was a cowardly thread Duck & Run opened titled "Budikka Runs
Away".  He set this up because he was peeved that he didn't get an
instant response from me in another thread!  He never told me he'd
opened this alternate thread, yet he accused me of running away in
it!  LoL!  When I finally happened across it and challenged him in it,
he ran away!  How pathetic is that?!

And more than once/month for an entire 12 month period starting April
2009:

    April 21st, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzywu7q

     July 12th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrmfxp

    August 16th,2009: http://tinyurl.com/kjjmn4

September 10th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/oasqn8

   October 3rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybvtw53

  November 9th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yjlmbrf

 November 19th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yj64yqj

 November 20th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrkvyh

 November 22nd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ycw6s8l

 November 25th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d

 November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakpje3

 November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d

  December 5th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzt9f4m

  December 7th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yllcb6q

  December 8th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybzvv33

 December 13th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakex6v

 December 23rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/y9k8kpv

   January 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnesb2

  January 24th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l

  January 27th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycgm8u8

  January 31st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo

 February  3rd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l

 February 15th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjjj93v

 February 16th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo

 February 22nd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ye59brz

     March 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ykgtezr

     March 6th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjhe3fe

     March 9th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnahkb

    March 11th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yl8hcea

The best comment from him was in alt.atheism on January 5th, 2004, at
5:46 pm when he said, "I've heard myself say a lot of vocal things,
but I've never heard myself think." (http://tinyurl.com/f48bq).  This
explains everything, including why he's such a gashole.  All he can do
is impotently snipe at people, since he has nothing of value or
intelligence to say and he demonstrably cannot support a single claim
he makes.

He has no proof, no evidence - not even an intelligent argument.  He
does not think because he cannot.  He's quite loco, and like a loco,
he's stuck on a pair of narrow rails.  He has no clue he's on them,
let alone how to get off.  And the track to which he's limited leads
to a dead end - which he hilariously thinks is "Heaven"!

The best "evidence" of a god he was ever capable of producing was a
lackluster five items he posted in thread "Scientists find new face on
back of Turin shroud" in a.a. on April 18 2004, 9:52 am:

http://tinyurl.com/c6hkg.

He appears to have appropriated "his" five evidences from Thomas
Aquinas who, c1245, published "Summa theologiae" which contained five
"Ways" to "prove" some god's existence, all of which have been
thoroughly discredited.

He admitted his "own" five ways were nothing but blind belief in alt
atheism in a thread called "The Inquisition" message posted on
Saturday, 12 June, 2004 11:52am:

http://tinyurl.com/bc5ud

but that was all he could do after the massive pounding he got.

I used those same five items in a spoof edition of my "Why There is no
God" series (http://tinyurl.com/bz54w).  I changed a word here and
there and all of his five "evidences" miraculously became evidence for
the non-existence of a god!  Naturally I didn't count them in the 666
since they were so pathetic.

His comments aren't born of smarts, logic, rational or evidence,
they're born of desperation.  Neither are his comments aimed at the
material - they rarely are.  He's incapable of having a rational
exchange on a topic.  He spits out idiocy and insult and runs away.

His comments are not designed to enlighten, help, or exchange
anything, but to abuse people.  He's the very antithesis of this
purported Christian love he's supposed to dispense.

He never documents or supports a single thing he says, whereas the
cowardice and lies of this pathetic hypocrite for Christ have been
fully documented on Usenet.  His despicable behavior and his
slanderous unfounded charges (he thinks turning the other cheek means
mooning someone) are why he was mass-plonked by pretty near the entire
regular set on a.a.:

http://tinyurl.com/9gycg

It's a sign of how pathetic he is, how low he's sinking and how
desperate he's become since he was cut off, that he now has to beg for
atheists to talk to him by posting inane rants against us - this from
the guy who claims to be a Christian, who claims to do unto others as
he would be done by, and who lies about turning the other cheek!

His cowardice in "debate" or even discussion is legendary:

1.  http://tinyurl.com/ac2vg

2.  http://tinyurl.com/4dyok

3.  http://tinyurl.com/664yu

4.  http://tinyurl.com/apenc

He thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven centuries,
gave rise to Mithraism:

http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk

He's quite literally astronomically stupid:

http://tinyurl.com/yhyopg

("the same "sky" that's already been looked at."!)

http://tinyurl.com/6fbwqh

He claims he can run rings around anyone on scripture, but when he was
actually taken up directly on this claim:

http://tinyurl.com/3z47u

he ran away!

He has numerous documented lies:

http://tinyurl.com/5zlzx

http://tinyurl.com/ablwm

He regularly demands people open discussions on his god, and when they
do, he runs away.  I personally had him run from the *same topic* well
over 100 times in direct response to a challenge *he* made!

He dismally failed the simplest intelligence test imaginable:

http://tinyurl.com/7zm43

He has fifty questions he can't answer or daren't answer honestly
here:

http://tinyurl.com/ad89u (October 22nd 2004)

and fifty more here:

http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y (July 16th 2005)

In short, he's a waste of a human being and not worth any response
other than this.

End of Douche.  Case closed.

Budikka


text:
On Dec 26 2011, 7:05 am, duke <[email]> wrote:

Nope, all yours.


text:
On Dec 24 2011, 9:33 pm, Samuel Harrigon <[email]>
wrote:

You're an idiot.  The Yule season has been around since LONG before
the alleged birth of your imaginary sky-pixie.


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Dec 27 2011, 7:26 am, duke <[email]> wrote:

LOL!  Your middle names are duck and run.  Most often, if one is to
"retort", one would need some factual assertion in which to give a
retort.  You have no facts to assert.


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Dec 30 2011, 7:35 am, duke <[email]> wrote:

Prove that this god thing exists.


text:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:47:20 +0000 (UTC), Francis Tidwell
<[email]> wrote:

Making them God-fearing people.  Terrible.
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush


text:
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:28:18 -0500, WangoTango <[email]>
wrote:

Shrug..I agree.

And Im way to the right of Rush..very conservative..and Buddhist.

Frankly..most conservatives really dont care one way or another about
gays..as long as gays dont get into their faces..ala ActUP or Queer
Nation.

Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend..few of us give a
shit if you do or not.

Only some of the radical religion freaks give a shit..what is that
bastard group that fucks with military funerals? Something Babtist..well
known. Its  a very small church..less than 500 members out of the 80% of
Americans who have religious beliefs..some 335 million..million
Americans

Of course..the Islamics..which the Leftwingers love..along with the Gay
Lefties....they murder their gays as part of their Sharia Law.

Which is something I never could figure out..why do Leftwingers defend
and love those that want them dead?  Its a bit...odd
But then..Leftwingers are mentally ill as a group..so its simply
something us normals can only shrug our shoulders about.

Here on Usenet..we have Leftwing trolls..we have some Christian trolls
who are  usually homophobic.  The only thing the rest of us can say...is
that there have been many studies about the insanely homophobic..and its
been found that most of those are gays who are afraid to come out fo the
closet..or to admit it to themselves.
Which when I mention that..tends to get em pissed at me...shrug..and I
could give a shit.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


author: juanjo

text:
On Jan 2, 7:41 pm, Gunner Asch <[email]> wrote:

I keep hearing this nonsense repeated by right wingers. I have yet to
see a single fact to support the claim.  Of course of one is truly a
civil libertarian then one believes that people have the right to
observe their religion within the confines of the Constitution of
course.  That means the Westboro Baptist Church lug nuts get to
protest at funeral and right wing nut cases get to justify their
hatred of homosexuality on religious grounds.  This also means that
Muslims get to do the same.  I can think they are truly nuts for doing
and saying what they advocate but they still have the right to do so.
Now when they start killing people who do not conform to their
religious prejudices then it is a different issue.  I can't do much
about Iranian mullahs hanging 16 year old boys for being gay but I can
speak out about it and have as have other gays.  Likewise I would and
have spoken out in opposition of right wing religious nut cases who
advocate murdering doctors because they perform abortions.

I am reminded of a quote attributed to Charles James Napier who was
confronted by Hindu priests complaining to him about the prohibition
of Sati by British authorities. This was the religious custom of
burning a widow alive on the funeral pyre of her husband. According to
accounts published at the time, he replied:

    "Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the
funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women
alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters
shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the
widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs."


author: duke

text:
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:28:18 -0500, WangoTango <[email]> wrote:

They announce that feel that way by violating God's commands against the
homosexual act.  Now if they don't practice, they are not damned.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****


text:
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:28:18 -0500, WangoTango
<[email]> wrote:

And due to the fact that they're what he created them to be ...
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush


text:
On Jan 3, 8:01 am, duke <[email]> wrote:

What God?  Can you prove he exists, then prove that he issued commands?


text:
On Jan 3, 8:03 am, duke <[email]> wrote:

Nonsense.


text:
On Jan 4, 6:38 pm, Gunner Asch <[email]> wrote:

That passage is from Leviticus, and refers to temple ritual
prostitution.   Additionally, the entire book of Leviticus is very
specific about being directed soley at the "Children of Israell", and
not at Gentiles.


text:
On Jan 5, 3:43 am, Barry OGrady <[email]> wrote:

No, it doesn't.


text:
On Jan 4, 11:32 pm, Gunner Asch <[email]> wrote:

Ah, the cry of the wounded religionist.  When confronted with the
actual facts, resort to insult.


text:
On Jan 4, 9:21 pm, Gunner Asch <[email]> wrote:

Apparently, your studies stopped at historical context and taking the
entire text into account.


text:
On Jan 5, 7:57 am, duke <[email]> wrote:

It's only clear in your rabid little imagination, not your big black
book of myth and fable.


author: JohnN

text:
On Jan 6, 8:05 am, duke <[email]> wrote:

Please Duke, explain why that ancient Hebrew law has any legitimacy in
the 21st century to anyone today?

And if you do really believe it has legitimacy, why not all the other
laws in Leviticus?

JohnN


author: Patrick

text:
"Shall not be infringed" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
On Dec 24 2011, 9:24 pm, "Andre Tice" <[email]> wrote:

Why?
Many gays are Christians.
Didn't you know that?

+ So are pedophiles, murderers, and rapists.


text:
On Jan 8, 4:33 pm, "Patrick" <[email]> wrote:

So are Obama, Pelosi, and Reed.


text:
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:17:01 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
<[email]> wrote:

Many gays are Republicans/Conservatives/Independants as well.

Mr Tice seems to not be very aware of the world around him. Much like
Leftwingers  in fact.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On Jan 8, 5:25 pm, Gunner Asch <[email]> wrote:

Yep, even gays aren't thrilled with the welfare state.


text:
On Jan 8, 4:46 pm, Jeff M <[email]> wrote:

I guess you didn't get the talking points.

Romney is completely off limits until he wins the nomination, then
every Mormon sin can be pinned to Romney.

But not until them.

Got it?


text:
On Jan 8, 6:52 pm, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Indeed.  But Patrick thought he was making a point.


text:
On Jan 8, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Yes, gays included.  Thanks for playing.


text:
On Jan 8, 7:05 pm, Jeff M <[email]> wrote:

Just wait until he gets the nomination then you can smear all you
want, OK?


text:
On Jan 8, 7:21 pm, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

As long as it's just the right wingers and not the Republicans/
Conservatives/Independents and Christians.

Thanks for playing.


text:
On Jan 8, 7:19 pm, Jeff M <[email]> wrote:

Too funny.

Have you never heard of the Clinton's aka the original Birthers???


text:
On Jan 8, 7:19 pm, Jeff M <[email]> wrote:

Do you know who the original Birthers were?

I'll bet you do, but will play stupid.


text:
On Jan 8, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Thank you for admitting that the Clinton's are stupid.


text:
On Jan 10, 9:24 pm, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Jeff wanted to insist that dirty political tricks were the domain of
republicans.


text:
On Jan 10, 9:32 pm, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

So Hillary gets a pass?

How nice.


text:
On Jan 11, 9:58 pm, Jeff M <[email]> wrote:

Then you get to provide a cite for who originated the claim Obama was
not US born.


text:
On Jan 12, 7:46 pm, Jeff M <[email]> wrote:

That is a claim, not a cite.


text:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 23:13:21 -0500, Colanth <[email]> wrote:

Unfortunately for you, it's yours too.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****


text:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:22:17 -0800 (PST), Paul Duca
<[email]> wrote:

Did you have to mention something that disgusting so close to July
4th?  (Have you ever SEEN Puke?)
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush