subject: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:25:25 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <[email]>
wrote:

Caca, you never offer retort - NEVER.  You just duck and run because you can't
support your position, and your reference post shows that - always.

Heeheehee.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****


author: duke

subject: Re: Duke's Documented Cowardice and Lies

text:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 06:22:34 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <[email]>
wrote:

But you don't offer response to my answers.

Unlike Duck Egg Duke, who can make claims but who RUNS from

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 05:20:32 -0800 (PST), "[email]"
<[email]> wrote:

Bud da dud de caca categorically refuses to retort to my responses to her. She's
scared to death to try just as she is to everybody else that challenges her.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 05:23:43 -0800 (PST), "[email]"
<[email]> wrote:

I don't have to.   You have to worry like hell that he does.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: No Christmas for gays - Remember, they don't believe in God and hate religious groups

text:
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800, Gunner Asch <[email]> wrote:

Amen to that.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****


author: Colanth

text:
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800, Gunner Asch <[email]>
wrote:

And since Rush is way off the right edge of 'human' ...

Bullshit, Gumdrop.
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush


text:
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:51:35 -0800 (PST), juanjo <[email]> wrote:

You're the ones demanding special rights.  Accept equality and you won't have
much of a problem.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****


text:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 05:25:19 -0800 (PST), "[email]"
<[email]> wrote:

Existence mandates creation, and the Supreme Creator's name is God.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


author: DanielSan

subject:
Re: No Christmas for gays - Remember, they don't believe in God and
 hate religious groups

text:
On 1/6/2012 5:25 AM, [email] wrote:

dukey is still having problems with a string attached to a ball.  You'll
have to forgive him.


text:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 05:33:14 -0800 (PST), "[email]"
<[email]> wrote:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)

9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not
be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men
who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Footnotes:a.1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two
Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual
acts.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 05:37:24 -0800 (PST), "[email]"
<[email]> wrote:

Mine's a combination of a mixture of red and brown with gold lettering .

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:01:12 -0800 (PST), JohnN <[email]> wrote:

They both address the mortal sin associated with queer sex.

Now you know.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/8/2012 1:33 PM, Patrick wrote:

Yes, well, Christianity has a broad stripe of people.


author: Jeff M

text:
On 1/8/2012 3:38 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

All the Republicans running for office say they are, too.  However, some
fundies say the Mormons, Romney and Huntsman, aren't.


text:
On 1/8/2012 1:38 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

And Bush, Santorum, and Sarah Palin.


author: Patrick

text:
"Shall not be infringed" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...
On Jan 8, 4:33 pm, "Patrick" <[email]> wrote:

So are Obama, Pelosi, and Reed.

+ So they say..........
+ Doesn't mean they are.
+ Pelosi wouldn't be allowed to take Communion in my church.


text:
On 1/8/2012 2:25 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Sorry, but it is right wingers who are against gay people.


text:
On 1/8/2012 5:49 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

Nope.  I never saw the memo, and I probably never will.  Dirty campaign
tricks, political smears, whispering campaigns, swift-boating, voter
intimidation and all those sorts of things are mainly Republican
undertakings.  From Watergate to the Bush operatives' circulating false
claims of McCain's supposed mental instability from being tortured as a
POW or putting out anonymous fliers showing a photo of him with his
"illegitimate black love child," actually a photo of the Bangladeshi
orphan he and his wife adopted, to the probable coming attacks on
Romney's religion, it's all straight out of the Republican playbook.


text:
On 1/8/2012 4:01 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

Yes.  Gays included.


text:
On 1/8/2012 6:13 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

Like I said, that'll be up to your kind, during the primaries.  It's
really not our thing.


text:
On 1/8/2012 4:28 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

Birtherism is stupid, regardless of who it is or which political
persuasion someone ascribes to.  The State of Hawaii released TWO birth
certificates (an abridged version and the unabridged version) which they
certify as proof that Obama was born in Honolulu, HI.

The State of Hawaii says Obama was born there.  At the Kapiolani
Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.  Obama's mother was a citizen of the
United States, being born in Wichita, KS.

Therefore, Obama is a natural born citizen according to the requirements
set out by the United States Constitution.

Anyone that denies this will have to come out with very hard evidence to
the contrary, such as evidence that the State of Hawaii is lying.


text:
On 1/10/2012 6:24 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

Relevance of who the original birthers were?


text:
On 1/10/2012 6:24 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

I said birtherism was stupid, not the person that puts it forth...at the
time.  Now that Hawaii has proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that
Obama was born in Hawaii, anyone still clinging to birtherism is stupid.
  And racist.

Now, if you have some evidence that Hillary Clinton is still a birther
today, I'd like to take a look at it.


text:
On 1/11/2012 5:32 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

So, which current birthers are Democrats?


text:
On 1/11/2012 7:32 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
[snip]

Which is true.  If you are trying to perpetuate the the false claim that
Hillary Clinton is somehow responsible for originating birtherism,
you're lying, and if you're just throwing it out in an attempt to
distract attention from the sordid record of Republicans for dirty
tricks in the last several presidential campaigns, you've failed.


text:
On 1/11/2012 5:31 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

If someone gave up their birtherism when it became obvious that he was
born in the United states, yes.


author: Gunner Asch

text:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:31:53 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
<[email]> wrote:

Where has Hawaii proven Obama was born in Hawaii???

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On 1/12/2012 6:34 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

The claim dates back to at least 2004 and right-wing nut job Alan Keyes,
who was beaten by Obama in the Illinois Senate election.


text:
On 1/13/2012 7:48 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
[snip]

Do your own research, then, and stop whining.


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On 1/7/2012 5:51 AM, duke wrote:

Then there's no reason to believe you.

Only if God is precisely described as he is in the Bible, but there's no
reason to believe that he is.  Or that God even exists and is the
correct one.

I do not fear hell any more than I fear the Coming of the Great White
Handkerchief.


text:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½   Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <[email]> wrote:

For what?

God doesn't like it.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


author: [redacted]

text:
On Jan 5, 4:13 am, Gunner Asch <[email]> wrote:

LOL!  Religionists have been doing that for centuries now.


author: Mitchell Holman

text:
duke <[email]> wrote in
news:[email]:

  Existence (of everything, including god) mandates creation.

  Who created the creator?


text:
On 1/7/2012 5:55 AM, duke wrote:

You have no evidence of that.


text:
On 1/7/2012 6:02 AM, duke wrote:

Stop swindling us, duke.


text:
On 1/11/2012 7:42 PM, DanielSan wrote:
[snip]

Asking about or investigating reports or rumors that Obama wasn't born
in the US is, at worst, typical politics, of which doing a background
investigation of other candidates, i.e., "opposition research," has
become a standard component.  But rejecting or denying overwhelming and
irrefutable proof of the facts and continuing to assert a falsehood are
what makes a birther a birther, and an idiot.


text:
Gunner Asch <[email]> wrote in
news:[email]:

http://factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/04/26/Hawaii-governor-remembers-Obamas-
birth/UPI-91611303843778/


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:24:30 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <[email]> wrote:

 MORE **immaturity** from spoon

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:36:13 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

That's very correct.  It's your choice.  I'm only trying to help you.

There can be but one (1) supreme creator.

Will it save you?

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/4/2012 9:58 AM, duke wrote:

There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.


author: JohnN

text:
On Jan 7, 9:00 am, duke <[email]> wrote:

This is another funny part of the Bible. Remember in the Old Testament
when Bible God got mad at people doing things he didn't like but knew
all along the people were going to do it and get him mad, remember?
What did Bible God do? He smited them. Destroyed their cites, got
genocidal on the whole population (except virgin girls) and such. It
was hell-fire and brime/burn stone for everyone. Whole cities wiped
from the face of the earth.

Jump forward a few centuries and what kind of Bible God do the
Christians get? A wussy! Paul threatens sinners with a time-out after
they die. Big woop! Really Paul? How do you know? Did you die, see it
happening, and come back to life to tell us? Saying 'when you die,
you'll be sorry' is like threatening a ten year old with a spanking
when his father comes home.

This is why the Christians are told to have faith like a child as only
a child would ever believe it or be afraid of it. The Omimpotent Wussy
you worship is a joke.

Paul said 'When I put away childish things, I became a man'. Throw the
scary action-figure to the back of your closet and grow a pair.

JohnN


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:11:50 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

Beyond the ability of mankind to answer.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:36:45 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

NO evidence of "existence"?  I think you're missing the point.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:41:10 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Keep your zipper up.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On 1/8/2012 5:11 AM, duke wrote:

You're doing a terrible job at it.

So you say.

It will save no one.


text:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:59:32 -0800, DanielSan <[email]>
wrote:

The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.

So the honeymoon is gonna be pretty boring......

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:59:32 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Maybe not in your bible, but it's clear in mine.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:25:33 -0800 (PST), JohnN <[email]> wrote:

No, he didn't get mad.  He gave mankind a free choice.  Of course, each option
carries a different reward.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/8/2012 5:13 AM, duke wrote:

No.  No evidence that existence mandates creation nor that the creator
is "God".

Is there a point?


author: John Baker

subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:34:00 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <[email]> wrote:

He's capable of nothing else.


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:18:16 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

I have had more success with a doorknob than you.

One thing about you 3 ds's, there's not a bit of differential intelligence
between the 3 of you.

I know.  That's why I'm going with God.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 13:53:14 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <[email]> wrote:

Why would a cockroach choose that type of suicide.  It's not even at his own
hands.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/5/2012 4:57 AM, duke wrote:

Okay, I'll humor ya.  Where in your Bible does it say that God is
against gay marriage?


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:19:38 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

God is his name.   Didn't you know that?

Well, not for you.  Your only point is the one on your head.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:08:30 -0500, John Baker <[email]> wrote:

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On 1/9/2012 11:23 AM, duke wrote:

You're still having an issue with names and balls on string.  Yeesh.

Possibly.  We're probably all much smarter than you (though that's not
saying much).

It won't even save God.  The Great White Handkerchief will come for you,
me, everyone, even God.  Be prepared, duke.


text:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan <[email]>
wrote:

Really?  Then  you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.

Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"

Lev. 18:22

    ï¿½You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)

Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality.  What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"?  The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."  It is an
abomination.  The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.

117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13

    "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
    "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)

The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."

Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah

Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'"  19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servantï¿½s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)

You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.

Shrug

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


author: Barry OGrady

text:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

Yes it does. The inventors of God detested homosexuals.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be Christian.

==========


text:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Oh, yes it does.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 04:58:52 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Where he said that marriage is a union between one man and one woman.

Matthew 19:5 (New International Version)
5 and said, ï¿½For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be
united to his wife, and the two will become one fleshï¿½[a]?
Footnotes:a.Matthew 19:5 Gen. 2:24

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/9/2012 11:26 AM, duke wrote:

"God" is the name of one of the creator deities.  There are others with
equal (or greater) evidence.

<insult snipped>


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:33:45 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

No, ds/ds/ds, I'm the one that understands the ball on a string.

I'm not worried.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:31:47 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <[email]> wrote:

Stumbled yet again, didn't you, spoon!!  Heeheehee.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/4/2012 6:21 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Really.

More than you.

Incorrect translation.  Not referencing homosexuality.

Neither are forbidden.  The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something.  That doesn't exist in this verse.

But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man?  You need to read the context.

Still no forbidding homosexuality.

No condemnation of homosexuality here.  Nor forbidding it.  See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality.  Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.

Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath.  No mention
of homosexuality.

You might need a refresher course yourself.  In the wording and in the
history.  The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality.  It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.


text:
On 1/5/2012 12:43 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:

Please show where it uses any term that means "forbid".


text:
On 1/5/2012 4:58 AM, duke wrote:

Prove it.  Leviticus 18 is not about a homosexual man laying with
another man for the purpose of consensual intercourse.


text:
On 1/6/2012 5:08 AM, duke wrote:

He was describing a type of marriage but this doesn't say that marriage
is only a union between one man and one woman.  In fact, the Bible has
examples of multiple person marriage.  How many wives did Solomon have?


text:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:35:23 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

How can there be more than one supreme Creator?

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:09:13 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <[email]> wrote:

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On 1/10/2012 4:35 AM, duke wrote:

Obviously not.

You're not worried about something that will even destroy God?


text:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan <[email]>
wrote:

Fascinating!  And your a widely known source of translation for the
Bible?  Got a website?

How many books have you published? Is there any money in it?

Or are you simply a lying cocksucker?

Ill bet the last.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.

==========


text:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Haahaahaa.  Maybe it references eating a banana.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:44:01 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

Put to death and their blood shall be upon them is pretty strong.
I realise Christianity has evolved and most Christians are embarrassed
by the old testament.

==========


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 04:59:53 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)
 22 ï¿½ï¿½Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is
detestable.

You're a dumb dork.  Haahaahaa.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 05:13:30 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

The bible is not a book of only good, moral people.  It's a book that shows us
what we are NOT to do.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/10/2012 4:37 AM, duke wrote:

You tell me.  Another religion believes that THEY have the one supreme
Creator and it's not God.


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:38:38 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

You don't even understand that discussion.

Not anything you can come up with.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:51:47 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/4/2012 8:32 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

My 'widely-known source' is the Bible itself.


text:
On 1/5/2012 12:40 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:

<brevity snip>

I'm not a Christian.  But the Bible doesn't say what so many people want
it to say.


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:40:42 +1100, Barry OGrady
<[email]> wrote:

Your desperation is showing when you try to redefine the Bible in such a
shoddy fashion.

Btw..Ive mentioned before..Im Buddhist..not Christian.

What..you are actually that blind that vast stretches of text are
invisible to you?

Mental illness...obviously you are a sad victim of mental illness

Shrug

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On 1/5/2012 4:59 AM, duke wrote:

Poor dukey doesn't even know his Bible.  Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 were
about idolatry, not homosexual relations.


text:
On 1/5/2012 1:03 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:

Sorry, I should've been more clear.  Please show where it uses any term
that means "forbid" where it comes to homosexuality.  A man laying with
a man is not necessarily homosexuality.


text:
On 1/6/2012 5:07 AM, duke wrote:

That's a heterosexual engaging in idolatrous sex acts.  Dummy.


text:
duke <[email]> wrote in
news:[email]:

   It is book bronze age savages doing "moral" things
that would merit the death penalty if used today.

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the
judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God
must be put to death. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches

    You should not let a sorceress live.  (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals

    If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them
shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have
forfeited their lives.
(Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers

    A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller
shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but
themselves to blame for their death.
(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad

    Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put
to death.  (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents

   All who curse their father or mother must be put to
death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.
(Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery

    If a man commits adultery with another man's wife,
both the man and the woman must be put to death.
(Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

    A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing
fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall
be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions

    Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone,
shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God
of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone
who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put
to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


text:
On 1/7/2012 5:56 AM, duke wrote:

If marriage is something that God accepts, and Solomon had many wives,
then God accepts Solomon's many wives.  You're wrong.  Again.


text:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:41:59 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Name that other one.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On 1/11/2012 5:09 AM, duke wrote:

Says the idiot that say a ball on a string does not rotate when you spin
the ball around a central vertex.

I didn't come up with it.  The Great White Handkerchief will destroy
even God.


text:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:34:07 -0800, DanielSan <[email]>
wrote:

So  you never completed that pesky braille course eh?

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:42:16 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

It certainly doesn't say what you want it to say.
If you are not Christian why defend the bible?

==========


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:00:59 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)
 22 ï¿½ï¿½Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is
detestable.

Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version)
 13 ï¿½ï¿½If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of
them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads.

You may see idolatry, I seen queers in action.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:04:35 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

Indeed you should.

Putting a person to death has the effect of preventing them doing
it again.

As with a woman is.

==========


text:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 05:09:08 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Haahaahaa.  Ask daddy to put you behind bar again.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:14:30 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

Can you give an example of that?  Those immoral things are still immoral today.

Absolutely not.

That's man talking, not God.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

do.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
"DanielSan" <[email]> wrote in message
news:jeaaef$n88$[email]...

Why do you think that God "accepts" marriage?


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:37:34 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

No, I'm not wrong.  A cave man cannot be expected to use a cell phone.  So God
moved in 2 steps.  When mankind was ready to accept the more mature approach to
life, God revealed that marriage is a blessed union between one man and one
woman until death do them part.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:56:53 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

That's right - it doesn't.  All the velocity vectors on the ball point in the
same direction.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:13:30 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/5/2012 12:06 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Keep fleeing the subject.


text:
On 1/5/2012 1:01 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:

Actually, it does.  The Bible does not forbid homosexuality.

I don't like people that lie about things.


text:
On 1/6/2012 7:05 AM, duke wrote:
[snip]

Then I suggest that you two stop video-recording yourselves in action. ;-)

Also, Leviticus, in addition to the debatable passage on male homosexual
sodomy, clearly prohibits or mandates a variety of other things, many of
which would come as terribly inconvenient surprises to many modern
folks, such as prohibiting charging interest on debt, commanding
adherence to strict kosher dietary laws, and mandating animal sacrifices
on occasions far too numerous to list.  I'm sure an observant and devout
fellow like you strictly and equally adheres to ALL the laws and
practices laid down in Leviticus, including banning your wife and
daughters from the house for a week when they have their periods and
refusing to touch them or touch anything they touched, lest you have to
go through the hassle of animal sacrifice and ritual cleaning.

I wonder, do you understand the difference between the Old and New
Testaments, and the meaning of that difference for Christians?  Do you
know that "Leviticus" itself means "pertaining to the Levites"?  How
many other Old Testament rules do you follow, whether in Leviticus or
other books? How, exactly, do pick which ones to obey and which ones to
ignore?  Is there a secret codex somewhere that indicates where God
"really meant it" and where He was "just kidding"?  Or do you just pick
and choose according to your own prejudices?


text:
On 1/6/2012 5:05 AM, duke wrote:

You have been deceived by Satan.


text:
On 1/5/2012 2:16 PM, Barry OGrady wrote:

That verse is not about homosexuality.  Try again.

No, it isn't.


text:
On 1/7/2012 5:58 AM, duke wrote:

Sorry if you hate your Bible to the point that you insult it, duke.

He has no power to put me in jail as he is not in law enforcement and
I've not broken any law.  Stop lying, duke.


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 07:18:27 -0600, duke <[email]> wrote:

And whats funny...is the Leftwingers are so supportive of Islam..and
Islam has even more reasons..commands actually..to kill people in job
lots

Leftwingers are mentally ill, along with being biased and bigoted

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On 1/7/2012 2:11 PM, Patrick wrote:

Talk to duke.  That's his claim.


text:
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:11:23 -0500, "Patrick" <[email]> wrote:

Doug/dave/ds still reflects his inbred silliness.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/8/2012 5:20 AM, duke wrote:

So, wait.  You're saying that Solomon was wrong when he had multiple
wives but that marriage is approved by God?


text:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:59:45 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Is he spit?

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On 1/12/2012 5:16 AM, duke wrote:

See folks?  He doesn't even understand a ball on a string.  Sad, ain't it?


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:09:24 -0800, DanielSan <[email]>
wrote:

Fleeing? Watching  you try to define things to your own twisted way of
thinking while scary..is actually pretty funny too.

Im curious why you think that your Opinion about Things is superior to
that of the Supreme Court and every definition found in every reference
book of note.

Is that just another mental illness symptom  you Leftwingers are victims
of?  Megalomania?  Based on you and a gazillion other Far Leftwing
Extremist Fringe Kooklers..Id say yah...thats a pretty common symptom
you guys exhibit.

Good thing you will be killed this year.

Darwin...hell of a smart fellah.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:02:23 -0800, DanielSan <[email]>
wrote:

Of course not. It only forbids laying down together.  If you kneel in
front of your top to suck his dick, or he bends you over the kitchen
table to fuck you in the ass..its cool.

You must really hate  yourself tremendously.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:02:23 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is]
abomination.

Yet you are lying about the bible.
Face it, the bible authors were opposed to homosexuals.
Rather than try to change the bible why not reject it completely?

==========


author: Olrik

text:
On 2012-01-06 13:03, Jeff M wrote:

Why is the so-called "old testament" still attached to the so-called
"new testament"?


text:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:03:52 -0600, Jeff M <[email]> wrote:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)

9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not
be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men
who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Footnotes:a.1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two
Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual
acts.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 05:08:28 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Satan is proud of you.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:38:46 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Oh, come on, ds/ds/ds.  It's your story going way back to your days in Siagon.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 12:40:51 -0800, Gunner Asch <[email]> wrote:

Yeah, universally, they're not that bright.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
"DanielSan" <[email]> wrote in message
news:jeahnn$5a5$[email]...

You said it.


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:41:44 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Nope, leave me out of that one.  I never used the word "accept".  God commands.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:25:47 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

???  He never got married.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
"duke" <[email]> wrote in message
news:[email]...

Sounds like spit.


text:
On 1/12/2012 5:17 AM, duke wrote:

He's a supreme creator deity.


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:36:22 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Yeah, see folks.  It's all over ds/ds/ds's head.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:51:39 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/5/2012 1:13 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

The Supreme Court does not control what I believe and do not believe.
Atheism is the lack of belief (disbelief) in deities.

Break the word down if you need to.

Atheism
A-the-ism

Theos = God
Ism = Suffix, in this case, meaning "belief".
Theos (God) + Ism (Belief) = Theism (God Belief)

A = lack of, as in asymmetry.

A (lack of) + Theism (God Belief)

So, that thing that theists believe?  We don't do that.

Capisce?


text:
On 1/5/2012 1:39 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Homosexuality =/= coitus

I have not lied here.


text:
On 1/5/2012 2:05 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:

That is not forbidding homosexuality.

No, I'm not.

Homosexuality, as we know it today, was unknown in those days.  The
Levitical admonition of a man lying with a man is in relation to
idolatrous practices of the pagans and loving another deity over God.

It had nothing to do with what we now think of when we think of
homosexuality.

I am not changing the Bible; the bigots are.


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:31:05 -0500, Olrik <[email]> wrote:

Because the "new" followed the "old" when mankind was ready for the next
message.  There will be no more.  Mankind now has it's final marching orders.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
duke <[email]> wrote in
news:[email]:

    What about women who have sex with women?

    Funny the Bible doesn't mention that.

    Was that as hot back then as it is now?


text:
On 1/7/2012 6:00 AM, duke wrote:

Mistranslation.  Those that have mistranslated the Bible will be cast
into hell.  And those that believe these mistranslations have been
deceived by Satan.


text:
On 1/7/2012 5:59 AM, duke wrote:

You have been deceived by Satan into hating God's creation.


text:
On 1/8/2012 5:39 PM, DanielSan wrote:

Yes, but it's a common rightard fallacy; confusing support for the
Constitution with support for those whose exercise of their rights,
however objectionable, are being protected by it.


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 15:39:19 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Wow, what a powerful retort - especially for a ds.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/7/2012 5:47 PM, Patrick wrote:

...referencing duke's claim.


text:
On 1/8/2012 5:22 AM, duke wrote:

Fine.  God 'commands' Solomon to have many wives.  Whatever word you
want to use, you claimed that marriage was with God's approval.


text:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:06:34 -0500, "Patrick" <[email]> wrote:

There you go.  If you sound like it, you are.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:36:53 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Ptah on that.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:43:40 -0800, DanielSan <[email]>
wrote:

Blink blink...huh?

And yet another lie.

Are you trying for some sort of record?

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 02:07:45 -0800, DanielSan <[email]>
wrote:

Blink blink.....what..its a 20th century invention?

Sigh..now you have become far far too stupid to even respond to any
further.

<plink>

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
                                   Gunner Asch


text:
On 1/7/2012 12:17 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

Well, God did like a good barbecue (Genesis 8:20-21).  Just get God a
six-pack and season tickets to the Packers and you'll be in his good
graces for eternity.  :D


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:17:29 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

Back in those days, women rode in the back.  In fact, with muslims, they still
do.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:40:23 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

How does one "mistranslate" something?  One can only "misinterpret" something.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:39:12 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

I don't hate you.  But you do have a bad problem.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/9/2012 11:29 AM, duke wrote:

It was all that was needed.


text:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:47:43 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Nope, that's your word, ds/ds/ds.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
"DanielSan" <[email]> wrote in message
news:jeaskd$hra$[email]...

You said it.


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:26:43 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

He's Christian.  Foot is a daily dietary requirement.
--
"The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and
doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it" -
Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:26:43 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

No, don't put that one on God.  It's was solomon's choice.

Right.  Before Jesus, all they had was a reverse sale.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:36:39 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/5/2012 3:54 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Time to go back to school, Gunny.  You are WAY out of your league here.


text:
On 1/5/2012 3:55 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Probably a good thing Gunny had to killfile me.  He has shown that he
could not even speak on this subject without being grotesquely wrong.
So sad.  But, not surprising.

Oh well.  Next?


text:
duke <[email]> wrote in
news:[email]:

   All those villages with all those women whose men
were all away at war - you are saying none of them
got frisky with each other?

   Or did the men who wrote the Bible not ban lesbianism
because THEY thought it was kinda hot?


text:
On 1/8/2012 5:27 AM, duke wrote:

Translation requires interpretation.


text:
On 1/8/2012 5:24 AM, duke wrote:

And you say that God's creation has a bad problem.  Boy, you're 0 for a
thousand, aren't you?


text:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:35:54 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

It was more than what was needed.  "duke wrote" was all that was
needed.
--
"The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's
job to interpret law." - George Bush


text:
On 1/8/2012 5:22 AM, duke wrote:

It's a synonym for what word you used.

You might want to fix that stutter.


text:
On 1/8/2012 11:06 AM, Patrick wrote:

In reference to duke's claim.


text:
On 1/8/2012 6:04 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:

The Jews, even the Jews of the Old Testament, had a reputation for being
a sensible and practical people.  I wouldn't expect them to mess up a
good thing without compelling reasons.  ;-)


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:04:08 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

I don't know myself.

I told you.  Woman had to ride in the back.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:30:10 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

Not always.  "Alma"refers to a woman of childbearing age.  Translating
it into "virgin" is just a mistranslation.  (Unless you use a
different word when it's done deliberately and with full knowledge.)
--
"Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise,
there wouldn't be religious people." - Doris Egan


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:30:10 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

No, in facts, it's outlawed.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:28:08 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Nope.  Some people die at conception, some at birth, some at middle age, some at
old age, some of murder or abortion or disease or pestilence or was or accident.
YOU will die no matter how hard you try not to.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:27:18 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Hey, leave me out of this.  You're going to have to fight your own battle.

Hey, it's you.  Why would I change it?

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
"DanielSan" <[email]> wrote in message
news:jed80k$pnv$[email]...

You said it.


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:25:04 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
On 1/8/2012 2:50 PM, Colanth wrote:

To translate CORRECTLY, you need to interpret the idea being communicated.


text:
On 1/9/2012 11:37 AM, duke wrote:

No, it isn't  Bearing false witness is a sin, duke.  God gave you a
brain and He expects you to use it.  Research this subject more so you
don't look like even more of an ignoramus than you already do.


text:
On 1/9/2012 11:31 AM, duke wrote:

Not my battle.  This is your claim.  Soak in it.  Leave me out of it.


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:35:02 -0800, DanielSan
<[email]> wrote:

You want the Bible to be translated CORRECTLY?  Isn't that a mortal
sin?
--
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be
accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into
something he can understand." - Bertrand Russell


text:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:35:02 -0800, DanielSan <[email]> wrote:

Haahaahaa.  You are owned by colanth.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:18:55 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


text:
"Colanth" <[email]> wrote

<yawn>
I'd forgotten what an ass-wipe you are.


text:
On 1/9/2012 11:38 AM, duke wrote:

Actually, dukey, Colanth just agreed with me.


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:37:06 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton  ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:43:30 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:22:40 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chilton ï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


subject: Re: dud de caca ducks and runs

text:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:07:48 -0600, "(ï¿½`ï¿½.ï¿½  Craig Chiltonï¿½.ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <[email]> wrote:

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****


author: Last Post

subject: Re: The Warmer the Oceans the more snow piles on the poles

text:
On Dec 20, 9:12 am, Sam Wormley <[email]> wrote:

ø Between now and 2050 we can expect
   lots of storms originating in the tropics
   terminating as blizzards in the Arctic.
   That is in the 4± Arctic winter but the
   in the Southern Hemisphere the
   seasons are reversed.

ø We are into the 1,700 years since last
   interglacial ended. The temperature
   graph has fluctuated wildly with the
   mediaeval warm period, little ice age,
   and we are now (for lack of a better
   term) in the industrial age.

ø Each of those "eras" has been
   moderated from those before. Forget
   about Global warming it does not exist.
   The more population Man, animals, birds
   aquatic animals, even insects need more
   CO2 for life on the planet. Those who
   would reduce our CO2 should be shot.
   Every so called "environmentalist" is a
   Thief.

— —
There are three types of people that you
can_not_talk_into_behaving_well. The
stupid, the religious fanatic, and the evil.

1- The stupid aren't smart enough to follow the
    logic of what you say. You have to tell them
    what is right in very simple terms. If they do
    not agree, you will never be able to change
    their mind.

2- The religious fanatic: If what you say goes
    against their religious belief, they will cling
    to that belief even if it means their death.

3- There is no way to reform evil- not in a
    million years. There is no way to convince

    anthropogenic_global_warming_alarmists,

    terrorists, serial killers, paedophiles, and

    predators to change their evil ways, They
    knew what they were doing was wrong, but
    knowledge didn't stop them. It only made
    them more careful in how they went about
    performing their evil deeds.˙


author: JohnM

text:
On Dec 22, 1:33 am, Last Post <[email]> wrote:

The Arctic is a very arid desert, and there is little sign of that
situation changing just now. Any extra precipitation is going to fall
back more or less into the place it came from - the ocean.


author: Ray Fischer

text:
JohnM  <[email]> wrote:

You're thinking of the antarctic.  The artic precipitation is low, but
at about 20 inches a year it's not nearly a desert.  Of course, it is
an ocean.

--
Ray Fischer         |  None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
[email]  |    Goethe


subject: Re: illusion

text:
In article <92uovr$k23$[email]>,
  [email] wrote:

The world is real and not an illusion created by anyone, especially not
a confused creature.

Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/


author: Scott Dorsey

subject: Re: illusion

text:
In article <93t8a7$27t$[email]>,  <[email]> wrote:

The world is not real.  Planck's Constant shows that it has fine granularity,
and is probably fixed point.
--scott


author: sir rick the cockroach

subject: Re: illusion

text:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:13:31 GMT, [email] wrote:

The world is an illusion created by nerves exchanging information
trillions of times a second creating a complex web of rules and
regulations making our cells react to the world out of fear, lust,
love and anger.

This is my .sig.  Witty, non?


author: LauryB

subject: Re: illusion

text:
Scott Dorsey <[email]> clarified:
| In article <93t8a7$27t$[email]>,
<[email]> wrote:
| >In article <92uovr$k23$[email]>,
| >  [email] wrote:
| >> The world is a bizarre illusion, created by a confused
creature.
| >
| >The world is real and not an illusion created by anyone,
especially not
| >a confused creature.
|
| The world is not real.  Planck's Constant shows that it has
fine granularity,
| and is probably fixed point.
| --scott
| --
| "C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Now come on guys, It it an illusion of reality, or just a real
illusion?


author: Ronan Waide

subject: Re: illusion

text:
[email] (Scott Dorsey) writes:

Bill Gosper also proved it's two's compliment.

Waider. At least, I think that was it. I haven't checked my copy of HAKMEM.


author: Kent Paul Dolan

subject: Re: illusion

text:
Aldo Pignotti  <[email]> wrote:

You'd lay an egg too, if you had to search for food in murky waters
with a beak like that.

FYI.

xanthian.


author: Kate Orman

subject: Re: illusion

text:
In article <93vdtu$pf6$[email]>,
Aldo Pignotti  <[email]> wrote:

The cheque is in the post. Quack!


author: Elspeth

subject: Re: illusion

text:
LauryB writes --

Comparisons are odious.

'All living and dying things like these dogs and me coming and going
without any duration or self substance, O God, and therefore we can't
possibly exist. How strange, how worthy, how good for us! What a horror
it would have been if the world was real, because if the world was real,
it would be immortal.'

       -- Saint Raymond of the Dogs

love,
Elsie

in my tree


author: James Waldby

subject: Re: illusion

text:
LauryB wrote:
...

What they were getting on about is continuity
(ie, the real-number line is continuous) vs.
discontinuity as exemplified by fixed-point
numbers (integer numbers with shifted fraction
point) rather than another issue of interest,
namely real vs. imaginary.  That aside, to address
illusion we need to move on to transcendental
numbers and stuff like the Cantor, Sierpenski,
and Julia sets, and others I won't mention,
like Koch and Mandelbrot.  In summary I
treat your question this way.  It might be
that an illusion of reality must be a real
illusion, but a real illusion need not be
an illusion of reality.
-jiw
----------------------
Most problems are multifactorial and most solutions
incremental. -- jeremy@cliffshade
----------------------
...bleakness...desolation...plastic forks... -- ReverendTommy


author: Sean T Barrett

subject: Re: illusion

text:
Ronan Waide  <[email]> wrote:

Whatever happened to those scientists who were working on CRASHME?

buzzard


subject: Re: illusion

text:
Elspeth <[email]> quoth:
| LauryB writes --
|
| > Scott Dorsey clarified:
| >
| >> moonandstars wrote:
| >>
| >>> In article <92uovr$k23$[email]>,
| >>> [email] wrote:
| >>>> The world is a bizarre illusion,
| >>>> created by a confused creature.
| >
| > Now come on guys, It it an illusion of
| > reality, or just a real illusion?
|
| Comparisons are odious.
|
| 'All living and dying things like these dogs and me coming and
going
| without any duration or self substance, O God, and therefore
we can't
| possibly exist. How strange, how worthy, how good for us! What
a horror
| it would have been if the world was real, because if the world
was real,
| it would be immortal.'
|
|        -- Saint Raymond of the Dogs
|
| love,
| Elsie
|
| in my tree
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If you're out of your tree when it falls, was it sound?


subject: Re: illusion

text:
LauryB asks --

O I live in a willow oak
  some four-and-thirty meters tall,
and with me live the faerie folk
  who dress as leaves from Spring to Fall;
    and in the Winters
      when it's dark,
    they sleep as splinters
      dressed in bark.
  O my tree watches over all
  and wouldn't ever let us fall.

His music is a fragrant smoke
  that wanders through his twiggy crown,
and O the dreams his songs evoke,
  enfolding us in thistledown!
    We pass the days
      in dreamy deeps
    and wavey ways
      of oaken sleeps,
  and in the Spring we come around.
  O what could ever be more sound?

love,
Elsie

in my tree


author: ONEstar

subject: Re: ANGELS WERE NAMED???

text:
The LAW OF NAMES is knowing the complete and TRUE name of an object, being,
or process gives one complete control over it.  This works because a name is
a definition (yes, even "Harold", "Marie", "Kunte", and "Jasmine" were at
one time) as well as a contagion link, and an association (if you call
something the same name over and over, that name becomes associated with the
thing).  This also works, because knowing the complete and true name of
something or someone means that you have achieved a complete understanding
of it's or their nature.  This is why, in most pre-industrial cultures,
people are given "secret names", as well as "public names", and why the
sharing of a secret name is such an act of trust - because the secret name
is considered to be very close to, if not identical with, the person's true
name.

Now, as regards the names of the angels, you might start with these.
1 Vehuah Exalter

2 Yeliel Strength

3 Sitel Refuge,Confidence

4 Aulemah Concealed, Strong

5 Mahashah Seeks saftey

6 Lelahel Praiseworthy

7 Akaah Long suffering

8 Kahathel Adorable

9 Heziel Merciful

10 Eladah Profitable

11 Lavah To be exalted

12 Hahauyah Refuge

13 Yezelel Rejoicing

14 Mebahel Guardian

15 Heriel Aid

16 Haqemah Raise up, praying night & day

17 Lauah Wonderful

18 Kelial Worthy to be invoked

19 Levoyah Hastening to hear

20 Pahyah Redeemer, liberator

21 Nelakel Thou alone

22 Yiaiel Thy right hand

23 Melahel Turning away evil

24 Chahoah Goodness in himself

25 Nethah Wide, wonderful, the enlarger

26 Haaih Heaven in secret

27 Yerethel Deliverer

28 Shaahih Taker away of evils

29 Riyiel Expectation

30 Aumel Patient

31 Lekabel Teacher

32 Vesherah Upright

33 Yechoah Knower of all

34 Lehachah Merciful, clement

35 Keveqah To be rejoiced in

36 Menadal Honourable

37 Aniel Lord of virtues

38 Chaumah The hope of all the ends of the earth

39 Rehauel Swift to condone

40 Yeizel Making joyful

41 Hahahel Triune

42 Mikel Who is like unto him

43 Vevalah King and ruler

44 Yelahah Abiding forever

45 Saelah Mover of all

46 Auriel Revealer

47 Aushalah Just judge

48 Miahal Sending forth as a Father

49 Vahoel Great and lofty

50 Doniel Merciful judge

51 Hachashyah Secret,Impenetrable

52 Aumemah Covered in darkness

53 Nenael Caster down of the proud

54 Neithel Celestial king

55 Mabehah Eternal

56 Poiel Supporting all things

57 Nememah Lovable

58 Yeilel Hearer of cries

59 Harachel Permeating all

60 Metzeral Raising up the oppressed

61 Vametel The name which is over all

62 Yehahel The supreme end or essence

63 Aunual Rejoicing

64 Mechiel Vivifying

65 Damebyah Fountain of wisdom

66 Menaqel Nourishing all

67 Aiauel Delights of the sons of men

68 Cheboyah Most liberal giver

69 Raahel Beholding all

70 Yebemyah Producing by his word

71 Haiaiel Lord of the universe

72 Moumyah End of the universe

ONE

Gabriel wrote in message <[email]>...


author: Chenani

subject: Re: ANGELS WERE NAMED???

text:
ONEstar wrote:

This is man's law, not true law. You cannot have complete control of
anything, especially a deity or a spirit. The most you can do is banish
it from where it exists in the here and now in YOUR reality. And that
doesn't give you reason to believe it can't come back at some point. If
you pulverize a clay bowl into dust, it doesn't mean that it is gone,
only that it is changed. If you understand how your kidneys work but
they become infected, you do not have complete control of your bodily
functions.

  This works because a name is

Understanding a thing does not place it under control. It might allow
you to form friendships or partnerships, but as of yet, I have seen no
proof that man even understands his OWN nature and hasn't got control
over himself yet. So how could anyone presume to control the
uncontrollable unless it LETS you? It then becomes a cooperative effort,
not a controlled experiment. If spirits do not presume to control each
other, how can you presume to take charge of a spirit?

  This is why, in most pre-industrial cultures,

Most of the time these *secret* names were used by tradesmen, guildsmen,
or conspirators. A conspiracy could conceivably be a religion that
wouldn't be tolerated openly. In cases of conspiracy, your true name
could get you dead.

Snipped all the names for brevity...
But...the names given were Hebrew names ending in el or ah. They were
not the names of angels but rather the names man gave to angels. There
is a world of difference there. You don't even know the proper name of
the RACE of *angels*. How could you know individual names? We are not
akin to the relationship between tissues and Kleenex. I hope that is not
what you meant to suggest.


author: Chief Happy Snake

subject: Re: ANGELS WERE NAMED???

text:
ONEstar wrote:

Very interesting article. As I understand it, the angels revealedtheir names to
man, or the God named them. But, where did you
get the following spellings an definitions of angelic names?
Please answer here on usenet, if possible.

Happy Snake


author: [redacted]

subject: Re: Our Heavenly Father and Our Heavenly Mother on 3-27-06

text:
james g. keegan jr. wrote:

Is Little Bobby attempting to accuse Fischer of behavior he himself is
indulging in?


author: The Chief Instigator

text:
[email] writes:

You're not supposed to make that observation.  (He's still apparently trying
to get hired by the White House.)


author: james g. keegan jr.

text:
In article <[email]>,
 [email] wrote:

this is tricky because it involves concepts; something alien to l'il
bobby.

he may well be too stupid to realize what he did.


author: Dr. Jai Maharaj

subject: Cops request 'realistic' targets of pregnant women and children

text:
Cops request ï¿½realisticï¿½ targets of pregnant women and children

By Joel McDurmon
American Vision News
February 21, 2013

A shooting target company is now providing ï¿½realisticï¿½
targets depicting pregnant women, elderly men, young
women, and children. An interview with a company
representative revealed that the targets were made
available upon request by law enforcement agencies. The
company has to date received $5.5 million in contracts
from DHS.

Continues at:

http://americanvisionnews.com/5526/cops-request-realistic-targets-of-pregnant-women-and-children/comment-page-1

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj


subject: Re: Cops request 'realistic' targets of pregnant women and children

text:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
http://americanvisionnews.com/5526/cops-request-realistic-targets-of-pregnant-women-and-children/comment-page-1

Forwarded post:

they left out the baby with the gun. Big strong Nazi
soldiers used to kill babies...

- yldstrk

End of forwarded post.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti


author: SaPeIsMa

text:
"[email] and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote in
message news:20130225No1PaZe84k@GeCM...

You moron
They are used in shoot-no shoot scenarios where the targets are flipped and
the shooter goes through the range.

A good example of such use can be seen in Clint Eastwood's Magnum Force,
during the shooting competition to resolve the tie...


author: TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

subject: The Revolution means transfer of power from the Old to the Young

text:
Look at the voters' age and the political issues and you will see a
pattern beginning to emerge: The old care about Social Security and
the young about deeper issues.

(I QUOTE)

"Americans under 30 are more concerned about education for their
children, American participation in war, and the future of the
environment than older Americans are. Those under 30 will cast their
votes for politicians who make these subjects campaign priorities.
As American age, their bank of experiences and political knowledge
increases changing their expectations. However, once Americans reach
senior citizen status, social security issues begin to influence their
voting behavior."

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4571276_does-age-affect-voting.html

***

This is confirmed by the old dodging every single deep issue* posted
by me. Thank you for your attention.

* I challenge the old with these questions:

1- While they live in the safety of gated communities, most of the
people does not. Solution?

2- How can they even enjoy safety on sidewalks if cyclists are
confined with them struggling for living space?

3- Why not legalize marijuana and prostitution? etc, etc.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION


author: Nickname unavailable

subject: Re: The Revolution means transfer of power from the Old to the Young

text:
On Oct 30, 11:37 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

 correct.

 It's funny though that for all their up and

 correct. even the conservative nazis did not repeal it.

 yes. switzerland was that way, now i hear they maybe going the full
government route.

 yes, give americans what is necessary, and let those whom want breast
enlargements, pay for it themselves.

 yes, and it works.

 they are of course, low functioning types.


text:
On Oct 30, 10:31 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

 true, one should keep it as simple as possible. but, the reason why
so many in the cities purchased 4wd suv's, is because of advertising,
propaganda, and lying, it works, other wise no one would ever use them.


text:
On Oct 25, 4:40 pm, Nickname unavailable <[email]> wrote:

And now the poor and miserable are being denied quality healthcare
while the medical/pharmaceutical industry gets fat, obviously from
abusing Medicare. They suck up some 15% of GDP, much higher than other
civilized nations that cover everyone.

Well, Obama will put a band-aid on it.

"From Medicare fraud to CEOs worth billions of dollars, big drug
companies are accused of putting profits above patients, spinning
false PR campaigns and more. We've uncovered 25 of the most shocking
facts about the pharmaceutical industry in this list."

http://noedb.org/library/features/25-shocking-facts-about-the-pharmaceutical-industry


text:
On Oct 25, 4:38 pm, Nickname unavailable <[email]> wrote:

Often a debt they don't even need as to buy SUVs. Keep it to a bare
minimum or else be ready to be a slave.


text:
On Oct 30, 10:46 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

 quite true. the corrupt wealthy always think their walls are high
enough. they are so smug that they think it cannot happen here. but if
you reduce what was once the envy of the world, americas middle class.
they should not be to surprised if it does happen here.
 over the next few years or more, the filthy rich parasites will be
surprised at how much americans can do without. it will get ever
harder to feed off of a dying middle class. of course sociopaths
simply cannot understand even the most simplest proven facts, such as
demand is wage driven. deflation is a lack of demand(wages).
 that is why some wealthy are supporting the movement, they
understand, have empathy, remorse, and of course in the long run, its
good for business. the short term feeders, are furious with what they
perceive are traitors to their class, but, tough shit for them i say,
let the sociopaths howl with false rage:)

 that is all he can do, and its almost worthless, as he is.

 nothing shocks me about the plutocracy/aristocracy.

 its why adam smith and madison were for wealth redistribution.


text:
On Oct 25, 4:30 pm, Nickname unavailable <[email]> wrote:

You mean Hitler, right? It's funny though that for all their up and
downs in German modern history universal healthcare has been a right
since Bismarck. First such system in the world.

They are a mix of social and private insurance. Perhaps a good model
for America...

"Health care insurance in Germany is split in several parts. The
largest part of 85% of the population is covered by a basic health
insurance plan provided by statute, formally insured under the
legislation set with the Sozialgesetzbuch V (SGB V), which provides a
standard level of coverage. The remainder of 15% opt for private
health insurance, which frequently offers additional benefits.

The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage workers,
whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value. Higher wage
workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may also opt for
private insurance. This may result in substantial savings for younger
individuals in good health. With age and illness, private premiums
will rise and the insured will usually cancel their private insurance,
turning to the government option."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Germany

***

Will the American conservatives call this socialism? It would be
laughable. Well, they do by equating Nazi with modern Germany, a big
leap of imagination...

http://www.miller-mccune.com/politics/nazis-and-health-care-3483/

But why even bother with that. They equate Autobahn with Hitler and so
on...


text:
On Oct 18, 1:12 pm, Old Baye <[email]> wrote:

 he has asked a sane question that should be easy to answer. as adam
smith quoted,

"The rate of profit is naturally low in rich and high in poor
countries, and it is always highest in the countries which are going
fastest to ruin:No society can surely be flourishing and happy when
part of the members are poor and miserable."


text:
On Oct 16, 9:04 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

 please do not forget, that it was ben franklin, a older
revolutionary, that was the backbone of the colonies successful break
from a conservative corporate empire.


text:
On Oct 16, 8:58 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

 for all of course. remember, not all germans were conservatives/
libertarians/fascists, but the opposition left parties outnumbered the
vermin by millions, yet they were so divided, and most probably
manipulated by wealthy parasites, that germany became easy prey to
conservative demagogues.


text:
On Oct 17, 9:47 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

 free trade is a democracy killer.

 free trade is a debt based system.

 when you purchase your own products from the creation of value
(manufactured goods)you create a profit that adds to our bottom line.
 when you purchase foreign owned, or foreign made products, you create
debt. that debt has to be paid back someday. so its a illegal tax on
every american.
 all free trade has done is to drive innovative, hard working
americans into go no where, or part time service jobs, that drives
them deep into debt, to borrow money back that used to be ours, to buy
the goods and services we used to make.


text:
On Oct 18, 8:23 am, noname <[email]> wrote:

People like you would be considered "anomalies" within the system.
They don't want to make this a better world. Politicians just want to
win, and that means NOT touching the SACRED COWS (Medicare, SS and
corporations) and trying to sound DIFFERENT from all the others.
TAKING RISKS is not their thing since it may threaten their political
survival.

The old folks voting en masse for one or the other party (what else?)
guarantee that the old system will be perpetuated forever so long as
their Sacred Cow is untouched... One day though they become too many
and the system implodes.

This is a simple arithmetic problem. Either the elderly are sacrificed
or the Medical/Pharmaceutical industry is sacrificed. But they want
the politicians to keep lying to them. Meanwhile the young are growing
restless and demand a reality check.

WHO CAN TAME THIS LION?

It was no other than JFK that said, "Ask not what the country can do
for you, but what you can do for your country."


text:
On Oct 16, 11:16 pm, Gary Forbis <[email]> wrote:

That's because the real Sacred Cows are not even the Old but the
CORPORATIONS that profit from them. We may say there are many
industries centered around them that are NOT willing to sacrifice a
penny from their profits.

They are all pretending, but the gap between BS and reality is getting
wider.

The employers are tied in all these bureaucracies and employees are
tied up to their jobs. My GF lost her nice job with an export/import
company (the jobs went to El Salvador) and now she's having this
dizziness that is going untreated...

She may never be part of the privileged cows.


author: Gary Forbis

text:
On Oct 16, 6:58 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

You are mistake.  I wonder if you are a stupid liberal or
a conservative.  It doesn't really matter.  Many on medicare
were pushing for a medicare for all plan rather than the corporate
giveaway we ended up with.

That's why Cain is pretending like he isn't killing social security
and medicare.

I'd love for us to move in that direction.  Taking it out of the hands
of employers would be a very good thing and I'm pretty sure Medicare
for all would do wonders for our health care delivery system.  My
risk adverse nature would have the age decreased two to three years
per year until all were covered so we could correct things as we moved
but medicare for all would be great as far as I'm concerned.


text:
On Oct 16, 5:52 pm, Gary Forbis <[email]> wrote:

Not really, but it really sounds exciting that we can enjoy riding
bikes and trikes instead of driving. Driving is a luxury we can live
without and still improve our quality of life.

The Medicare can be streamlined at the providers level, not at the
patient's cost, ie. forced a diet on the Medical Industry and
Pharmaceutical Industry in particular.

Is that too deep for the elderly?


text:
On Oct 16, 5:52 pm, Gary Forbis <[email]> wrote:

The elderly though have been unmoved and unconcerned about the rest of
the population NOT having Medicare, including children.

Their Medicare is a sacred cow, but not anymore...

"Moreover, heading into a presidential election season, no party or
politician wants to be perceived as altering a benefit program that
affects some of the most reliable and active American voters -- senior
citizens."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/entitlement-reform-lawmakers-stuck-medicare-medicaid-social-security/story?id=12933651

How about Medicare for all or none?


text:
On Oct 16, 12:42 pm, "Mr. K" <[email]> wrote:

I'm sure they do that to damage the image of an idealistic revolution.
Of course, the older folks don't go lose control because all they got
to do is vote! I'm not surprised if operatives throw the first stones.

The old folk are an formidable voting machine...

On Oct 16, 2:56 pm, bo peep <[email]> wrote:

True, but that's because they feel powerless to change the system.
Politicians know that the Sacred Cows are medicare and gas prices. The
young are simply ignored.


text:
I don't expect the old to notice the cyclists out there, but YES, we
are having a tough time surviving. Don't tell me it's insignificant. I
give you 12 reasons to ride a bike...

On Oct 15, 12:14 pm, "{:-])))" <[email]> wrote:

Bicycling is THE PATH because:

1- It helps you while helping the world, "YOU SAVE THE PLANET!"

2- It keeps your balance. You need to be alert and focused,

3- It keeps you cool in hot weather,

4- It makes you climb when going up hill, and allows you to coast when
going downhill,

5- You don't feed Big Oil,

6- You save energy compared to walking and everything else,

7- It gets out of the cage and into the great outdoors,

8- You socialize with different people, always different,

9- It lightens your load (think of carrying 55 lbs on the rack),

10- It gives meaning to word COMMUNITY, "BUY LOCALLY, BIKE LOCALLY,"

11- It keeps you young and beautiful,

12- It introduces you to the Beach Cruiser philosophy... At the
beginning of the day you make a choice: "LIFE'S A BITCH" OR "LIFE'S A
BEACH" etc.

Thank you and "May the Sun shine upon your head!"


text:
On Oct 16, 11:57 am, Gary Forbis <[email]> wrote:

The revolution is about the Class Struggle and toppling the
Gerontocracy.

We may want to use this diagram to illustrate the point. Left to right
is class struggle and up and down is the income divide...

http://politicalcompass.org/

This compass is quite enlightening so you don't get lost in the
political jungle. There's way too much camouflage in it.


text:
On Oct 16, 2:37 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

While the rich has been getting older so has the poor.  I'm in
my late 50s.  I'm not rich.  The boomers are a big bump in the
population distribution and has been since they were born.  We
didn't decide to be born like this, the "greatest generation" did it
to us.

The boomers grew up during a time when jobs were plentiful.
Yes, we're going to be a problem in our retirement years.  Does
it make you proud to consider the possibility of millions of us
starving on the streets?


author: pyjamarama

text:
On Oct 16, 10:04 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

Yeah, like getting all sorts of free shit (i.e. tuition, health care,
housing) and defecating on cop cars...

Them's some real "deep issues", champ.


author: gfn

text:
On Oct 16, 10:04 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

In other words a transfer from the producer class to the moocher class.


author: Mr. K

text:
In article
<[email]>,
 "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
 <[email]> wrote:

and join the "petition movement"  vote here and with your dollars!

Vote on this Petition;
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/abolish-electronic-votin
g-revert-back-public-display-ballot-counting/HwxXj3Bx

and there are others to peruse.
Enjoy!
--
Karma, What a concept!


text:
On Oct 16, 10:34 am, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

I'm doing just fine for myself young idealistic puppy.


author: Old Baye

text:
On 10/30/2011 7:46 AM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:

If by "band aid" you mean cutting hundreds of millions of dollars in
funding to medicare...


text:
On 10/30/2011 8:37 AM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:

Iirc they were skilled at providing death benefits to certain segments
of the populace...

Oh and they were very creative in advancing the science on hypothermia :-(


text:
On 10/18/2011 9:30 AM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:

How long have you been into eugenics?


author: * US *

text:
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<[email]> wrote:

There is no vote.

There is only the corporate-owned computer.


text:
On 10/16/2011 2:11 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:

No thanks, control freaks like you are petty tyrants at heart.


text:
In article
<[email]>,
 pyjamarama <[email]> wrote:

some of these things are done by "operatives" to get bad press for the
movement. ya know "instigators" to make it all look bad.
a conspiracy , eh?
--
Karma, What a concept!


text:
On Oct 16, 10:32 am, gfn <[email]> wrote:

They are the ones doing the actual fight for you, old man. Make the
old serve in Iraq and Afghanistan.