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+ # Plan: 262K context on 6GB VRAM, matching Claude
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+
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+ **Goal.** `recursion + local model == frontier model`, under one hard constraint:
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+ **6GB VRAM**. Parameter count is NOT constrained -- a 35B model whose experts stream
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+ from system RAM is in scope, because only its resident footprint has to fit.
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+
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+ This was initially mis-scoped as "small model", which pushed everything toward 2-4B
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+ models and made capability the bottleneck. The constraint is VRAM alone.
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+
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+ Two independent claims. Keeping them separate matters, because one is proven and
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+ one is not:
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+
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+ | claim | status |
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+ |---|---|
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+ | A. 262K of context served within 6GB VRAM | **proven, reproduced 4x** |
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+ | B. ...and it produces the correct answer | **MET** via ctxstream (2026-08-24) |
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+
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+ **Claim B was closed by removing the model from the aggregation step, not by a
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+ bigger model.** See "How claim B was actually met" below. The MoE expert-offload
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+ work is no longer on the critical path for correctness; it remains the route to
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+ higher-quality *extraction* per fragment.
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+
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+ ---
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+
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+ ## Hardware
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+
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+ | machine | GPU | role |
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+ |---|---|---|
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+ | desktop | RTX 3080 20GB + Tesla P100 16GB | orchestration, Claude CLI, dev |
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+ | `rickesh-Laptop` @ `10.147.20.104` | **RTX 3060 Laptop, 6144 MiB**, 62GB RAM | the constraint; all VRAM claims measured here |
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+
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+ The laptop runs Ollama 0.32.15 in a container (`ollama-bench`, reversible, no
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+ system install). The desktop reaches it via
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+ `ssh -f -N -L 11436:127.0.0.1:11434 rickesh@10.147.20.104`, so candidate runs use
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+ the 3060 while the desktop GPU stays free. Set
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+ `RLM_TEST_OLLAMA_URL=http://127.0.0.1:11436`.
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+
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+ ---
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+
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+ ## What is measured
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+
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+ **VRAM vs context on the 6GB card** (flash-attn + `q8_0` KV, matching the desktop
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+ service config — without those the KV blows up and the direct arm is unfairly
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+ handicapped):
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+
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+ | `num_ctx` | footprint | fits 5.5GB usable |
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+ |---:|---:|:---:|
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+ | 8,192 | 3.2 GB | yes |
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+ | 16,384 | 3.3 GB | yes |
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+ | **32,768** | **3.3 GB** | **yes — the ceiling** |
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+ | 65,536 | 10.4 GB | no (31% GPU) |
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+ | 131,072 | 10.9 GB | no (28% GPU) |
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+
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+ KV is nearly free to 32k, then the allocator falls off a cliff. **Direct maxes at
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+ 32,768 tokens.**
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+
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+ **RLM at 261,226 tokens on that card:** peak **4.23 / 4.24 / 4.25 GB** across three
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+ runs. Fits, with ~1.2GB headroom. VRAM is flat in total context because the corpus
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+ lives in CPU RAM as a REPL string and only chunk-sized slices reach the KV cache.
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+ That is an **8x context multiple at constant VRAM**.
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+
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+ **Model ceilings.** `gemma4:e4b` = 131,072; `qwen3:4b` = 262,144 trained context.
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+ 1M is not reachable with these weights — that was the Claude `[1m]` variants, not
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+ local GGUF.
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+
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+ **6GB-class candidates** (32k ctx, measured):
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+
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+ | model | footprint | fits 6GB | tool_ok |
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+ |---|---:|:---:|---:|
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+ | Gemma 4 E2B q4_0 | 1.8 GB | yes | 0.95 |
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+ | **Gemma 4 E4B** | **3.5 GB** | yes | 0.90 |
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+ | Qwen3 4B | 5.3 GB | marginal | 0.65 |
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+ | Ornith 1.5 9B Q4_K_M | 6.2 GB | **no** | 0.95 |
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+
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+ E4B's 9.6GB GGUF is only 3.5GB resident (MatFormer / per-layer embeddings) — file
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+ size badly overestimates VRAM here.
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+
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+ ---
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+
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+ ## What failed, and why it matters
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+
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+ **The reference is not a reliable oracle at this size.** Opus 4.8 [1m] over 439,742
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+ tokens answered the *same* question two different ways on byte-identical input
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+ (`Spatial Relationship` correct, `Normal scene Understanding` wrong), and is 2/3
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+ across three samples. Ground truth must come from Python, with Opus scored as a
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+ candidate. `bench/reference_reliability.py` quantifies this; it is cost-capped
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+ because a call is $0.26 warm and $4.79 cold.
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+
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+ **The candidate's failure moved three times as plumbing was fixed:**
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+
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+ | attempt | calls | answer | defect |
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+ |---|---:|---|---|
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+ | 1 | 7 | prose | read ~33% of corpus |
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+ | 2 | 11 | `Category: Spatial` | correct arithmetic, truncated label |
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+ | 3 | **65** | `Category: Counterfactual` | swept corpus, well-formed, **wrong** |
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+
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+ Attempt 3 consumed 425,054 input tokens — it genuinely read everything and answered
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+ in the required format. **The remaining gap is aggregation accuracy: a 4B correctly
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+ combining 65 chunk-level counts.** That is a capability question, not plumbing.
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+
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+ ### Guards added (none leak the answer)
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+
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+ | guard | catches |
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+ |---|---|
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+ | `require_repl` | answering from an empty REPL (measured: 1 call, pure guess) |
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+ | `min_coverage=0.8` | answering from a partial read |
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+ | `max_answer_chars` | returning the corpus instead of an answer |
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+ | placeholder check | returning `Label: [least_common_status]` unsubstituted |
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+ | `ContextTruncated` | Ollama silently clipping 50k→16,387 tokens |
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+ | `QuotaExhausted` | rate limits scored as wrong answers |
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+
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+ `map_chunks(question)` was added to the REPL: it splits the entire context and
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+ queries every chunk concurrently, collapsing the chunk-and-loop code a 4B fails to
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+ write. It moved sub-calls from 17 → 75 and *reduced* wall-clock 16.6m → 7.8m.
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+
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+ ### Scoring traps hit (both fixed)
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+
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+ - `gold in answer` passed a raw corpus dump because the dump contained the gold
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+ label. Strict scorers now reject replies with >2 ` || ` separators or over a
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+ length bound; the dump is a regression test.
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+ - Caching a single sample of a non-deterministic reference froze a *wrong* answer
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+ as the oracle. The cache is now keyed on
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+ `sha256(model + instruction + context)`, so any change invalidates it.
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+
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+ ---
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+
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+ ## Remaining work
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+
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+ 1. **Close claim B.** The candidate sweeps correctly but aggregates wrong. Options,
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+ cheapest first:
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+ - Make chunk-level output machine-parseable (ask each chunk for strict
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+ `label<TAB>count` lines) and aggregate in Python rather than trusting the
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+ model to combine 65 prose summaries.
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+ - Try E2B and Ornith 9B as the *root* (both scored 0.95 on tool behaviour vs
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+ E4B's 0.90); Ornith needs a card above 6GB or a smaller quant.
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+ - Root = Sonnet/Opus with sub-calls on the local 4B — the paper's own
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+ BrowseComp arrangement, untested here.
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+ 2. **Terminal-Bench baselines** — never produced a valid run. The ufw rule
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+ (`sudo ufw allow from 172.16.0.0/12 to any port 11435 proto tcp`) is in place and
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+ the bridge works; the suite needs re-running for E2B / E4B / Qwen3-4B.
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+ 3. **Quantify reference reliability** — run `bench/reference_reliability.py` for N
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+ samples to put a number on Opus's instability at 440k.
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+ 4. **Decide the finetune** — nothing is trained yet. Base and training data are
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+ both open (see below).
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+ 5. **MoE expert-offload — see the dedicated section below. This is the main line.**
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+
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+ ---
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+
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+ ## How claim B was actually met
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+
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+ `~/Projects/ctxstream` (C++17, zero third-party deps). The corpus is treated like
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+ a video stream, and the model is removed from every step it was failing:
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+
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+ | video | ctxstream |
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+ |---|---|
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+ | manifest | segment plan, computed in code before any model call |
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+ | buffer | N segments in flight |
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+ | decoder | model sees ONE segment, emits `key<TAB>number`, never prose |
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+ | playback | reduce — aggregation in code, strategy chosen explicitly |
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+
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+ Result on the 957,493-char imagined-risk corpus — the exact task that defeated
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+ every earlier attempt, same 4B, same RTX 3060:
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+ 17 segments · failed=0 · records=611 · unparsed_lines=3 · keys=15 · 641s
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+ Category: Spatial Relationship <- gold, correct
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+ Opus 4.8 [1m] on the same corpus: 2/3 correct, self-inconsistent on byte-identical
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+ input, $4.79/call. The 4B on a 6GB laptop: correct, $0.00.
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+ Still to confirm: the same pipeline against the full 262,144-token synthetic
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+ ledger used by `bench/rlm_262k.py`, to show it holds at that size too.
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+
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+ ---
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+
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+ ## Main line: frontier-class quality inside 6GB via MoE expert-offload
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+ The constraint is VRAM, not parameters. A Mixture-of-Experts model can put nearly
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+ all of its weight in system RAM and keep only the always-active tensors resident,
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+ so **35B-class quality is reachable inside 6GB**. This attacks the actual blocker
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+ directly: a 4B cannot aggregate 65 chunk-level summaries; a 35B-A3B plausibly can.
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+
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+ ### The candidate
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+
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+ `ornith-ai/Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B` (`Qwen3_5MoeForConditionalGeneration`), Q4_K_M =
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+ 21.7GB on disk. From its config: **40 layers, 256 experts, top-8 per token**,
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+ `moe_intermediate_size` 512, and **30 of 40 layers use linear attention** (only 10
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+ are full attention).
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+
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+ | component | params | ~Q4 size | placement |
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+ |---|---:|---:|---|
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+ | experts (256 x 3 x 2048 x 512 x 40) | ~32.2B | ~19.3 GB | **CPU RAM** |
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+ | attention + embeddings + router + shared experts | ~1.7B | **~1.2 GB** | **GPU** |
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+
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+ Two properties make this unusually favourable: experts are tiny and fine-grained
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+ (~1.9 MB each), and the 3:1 linear-attention ratio makes the KV cache far smaller
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+ than a normal 35B — so long contexts cost little VRAM.
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+ Laptop capacity as measured: **51 GB RAM available, 483 GB disk, 5.8 GB free VRAM.**
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+ The 21.7 GB of experts fit in RAM with room to spare.
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+ ### Tooling
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+
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+ **Ollama cannot do this** — it exposes only `num_gpu` (a layer count), which would
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+ naively push ~75% of layers to CPU including attention. The local llama.cpp build
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+ already has the right flags:
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+
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+ -cmoe, --cpu-moe keep ALL MoE weights on CPU
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+ -ncmoe, --n-cpu-moe N keep MoE weights of the first N layers on CPU
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+ -ot, --override-tensor per-tensor placement by regex
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+
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+ `ghcr.io/ggml-org/llama.cpp:server-cuda` avoids building on the laptop.
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+
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+ ### Steps
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+ 1. Pull `Ornith-1.5-35B-Q4_K_M.gguf` (21.7GB) to the laptop.
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+ 2. Run `llama-server` with `--n-gpu-layers 99 -cmoe`, so every layer's attention is
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+ on GPU and every expert FFN is on CPU. Measure resident VRAM; tune with
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+ `-ncmoe N` if there is headroom left under 6GB.
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+ 3. Add an OpenAI-compatible backend to `rlm_haiku/utils/llm.py` — llama-server
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+ serves `/v1/chat/completions`, not Ollama's `/api/chat`. Keep the
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+ `ContextTruncated` check: it needs a processed-token count from the response.
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+ 4. Re-run the equivalence test with this as the RLM **root** (sub-calls can stay on
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+ a cheap fast model, which is the paper's own BrowseComp arrangement).
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+ ### Known cost, stated up front
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+ Expert streaming is memory-bandwidth-bound. Only ~3B params are active per token,
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+ but a *different* ~600 MB of experts is touched every token, so throughput is set
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+ by RAM bandwidth rather than compute — expect single-digit to low-double-digit
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+ tokens/sec on a laptop. RLM multiplies that by ~65 sub-calls plus ~325k tokens of
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+ prefill across chunks. **Minutes becomes tens of minutes to hours.** If quality
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+ parity lands, that is the trade: VRAM and quality bought with wall-clock.
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+ Fallbacks if throughput is unusable: `-ncmoe N` to pin as many expert layers on GPU
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+ as fit (~4 GB spare / 1.9 MB per expert ~= 2,100 of 10,240 slots, so roughly 20%
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+ resident); or a smaller MoE. True per-token LRU expert paging is what would help
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+ most, and llama.cpp does not implement it (ktransformers, MoE-Infinity do).
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+
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+ ## Open decisions
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+
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+ - **Finetune base and data.** Deferred pending baselines. Worth knowing:
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+ `empero-ai/Qwable-9B-Claude-Fable-5` already exists — Qwen3.5-9B fully fine-tuned
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+ on Fable-5 traces + `gpt5.5-terminal`, tagged `agentic-coding`. That is close to
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+ what we were going to build; evaluate it before training anything.
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+ - **Release scope.** `Rickesh/rlm-oolong-reproduction` is published (harness +
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+ results, MIT, no weights). Nothing is trained, so there is no model release yet.
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+ Ollama.com namespace is separate from HF and needs your handle.
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+ ## Non-obvious findings worth keeping
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+ - Ollama auto-sizes context to the prompt up to a ceiling, then **silently** falls
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+ back: 30,021 tokens pass intact, 50k and 70k both clip to exactly 16,387, with no
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+ error. `num_ctx` is **ignored** on the Anthropic-compatible `/v1/messages` and
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+ honoured on native `/api/chat`, which is also the only route reporting
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+ `prompt_eval_count` — the thing that makes truncation detectable.
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+ - Terminal-Bench puts each task on its own compose network, so firewall rules
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+ scoped to `docker0` do not match. Scope by source subnet.
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+ - RLM *hurts* when the context fits the window: OOLONG-131k, Haiku, 0.269 recursive
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+ vs 0.428 direct. It only pays when the context does not fit.
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+ - The "behave like Claude" system prompt bought **zero** tool-selection accuracy
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+ across 4 models (deltas 0.00 / 0.00 / -0.05 / -0.05) while halving output tokens.
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+
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+ ## Running things
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+
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+ ```bash
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+ # fast checks, no model calls
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+ python -m pytest tests/test_equivalence.py -v
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+
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+ # equivalence, candidate on the 3060 (reference is cached; $0)
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+ RLM_TEST_OLLAMA_URL=http://127.0.0.1:11436 \
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+ python -m pytest tests/test_equivalence.py -v -m integration -s
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+
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+ # 262k on the 6GB card (run ON the laptop)
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+ python3 bench/rlm_262k.py --model gemma4:e4b --target-tokens 262144 \
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+ --num-ctx 8192 --max-prompt-chars 20000 --workers 2
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+
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+ # VRAM curve
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+ python3 bench/vram_curve.py --model gemma4:e4b --budget-gb 5.5
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+
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+ # ask a question about an oversized file with a local model
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+ python3 rlm_ask.py --file huge.log --query "which error appears most often?"
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+ ```