text: I'll  follow up my earlier post... years,ago, before cell phones, rescue beacons, sat phones, forums... if you got on trouble on the high peaks, you spent the night out... usually with gear to get you through the night. I myself have had five FORCED BIVOUACS... two in the winter, one solo... on Broken Hand Pass in the Crestones... in January, VERY COLD NIGHT'S, sun went down 4:30pm and came up 6:30am. Hunkered down at 13,000 ft, staying awake, trying to keep warm, against a rock, out of the wind. Now... they pull out a cell phone or rescue beacon and wait to be saved. Let me tell you, the night spent alone, up high... you're  getting to know yourself... that inner drive to survive. Now... folks who have no experience, who don't know how to use a compass, don't know how to hunker down and work their way out of a predicament... rely on others to rescue and save them. Think about it!  Now... they have absolutely no experience or willingness to learn how to survive and exist up high.