text: No, you're missing the basic point. I discussed why Altman seems to garner compliments and respect of his peers in the Pac-12 and other Power 5 Conference teams and Helfrich doesn't, whereas you made a point about not comparing Altman and Helfrich's head coaching because Altman has been a head coach much longer and should be compared to other basketball head coaches. And I'm saying you can compare the two head coaches because it's about the respect they get from their peers. 
  
  The difference between Helfrich and Altman as head coaches in terms of length of tenure isn't an issue because a coach's reputation doesn't just start the minute he's a head coach somewhere. It's about how your peers evaluate you, in and out of the conference. Helfrich has been a coach in the Pac-12 before Oregon. He's been around long enough as a coach to have a reputation in the conference. Why aren't his peers complimenting him the way Altman's does, or the way Kelly's did when he was the Ducks head coach?