text: When I was young, it was more of a children should be seen and not heard scenario.  Why?  Because otherwise young people assume they know it all and storm over everybody else, not learning a thing and continuing to be ignorant.  Back then, we actually knew it too because, upon being quiet, we learned a tremendous amount from the experience and wisdom of our elders.  These days most young people never learn hardly anything.  Too concentrated on dominating the discussion every second of the day with their clueless garble.  Those of us who are older who try to talk with them usually give up quickly because it's too frustrating fighting every single second of the conversation to get a word in and actually complete an intelligent thought!  So, while the clueless young fans will mouth off loudly and every second of the day about Boyle and Fehr being useless, people like myself and Babcock know the obvious opposite ;)