text: Ellamae,   
  You write: "If we take Paul's words out of context and use them literally for all time..."  Hermenuetically speaking, the problem is; Paul deliberately puts his words contextually, 'for all time.'  He reasons about his edict from scripture, from the creation account.  
  
  "For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. But women will be preserved through the bearing of children..."   
  
  Paul explains himself reasoning from scripture about the nature of man and woman. It is Paul who puts his words in context. The context is 'for all time.'  He doesn't reason with Timothy about local conditions and the contemporary situation.
  
  You can say; "Paul was wrong here."  But the Adventist hermenuetic won't permit you.  You can say, "Paul didn't mean it." But, plain and simple, he did.  Or you can call me a heretic, say this is going nowhere, and be done with it.  End of Argument.