text: Vague claims ? Like the universe exploding out of nothing ? Or believing fairy tales about frogs becoming princes ? When you can give us a rational explanation for these you might get some listeners. Your career as a wiki scientist is fleeting Fishy. You are not an expert in "my religion" when you put yourself through college and seminary and have had years of mentoring I might listen to you, but at this point in time you are simply a crank on a website who uses canned arguments to push her agenda.
  
  Day is referred to as a sunrise and sunset, as far as "age" I see no relevance at all the the discussion, what difference does it make ? It all had to begin somewhere and human dating methods to not answer the question of origin, case closed.