TITLE: Dartboard paradox and understanding independence
QUESTION [5 upvotes]: By definition, events $A$ and $B$ are independent if $$P(A \cap
    B) = P(A)\:P(B).$$ Thus if an event $A$ happens almost never
$\left(P(A)=0\right),$ then
$A$ is independent of all events, including itself. So, hitting the
exact centre of a dartboard (happens almost never) and hitting within its inner ring are independent events.

On the other hand, it is standard to characterise
independence as follows:

Two events are independent if the occurrence of one does not
affect the probability of occurrence of the other.

Since hitting the exact centre of a dartboard guarantees hitting
within its inner ring (which is otherwise not guaranteed), the
two events are dependent.


Isn't this a contradiction?? If yes, then do we accept that the definition of independence is not meant to fully correspond to its verbal/intuitive characterisation?

Is there any semantic difference between the following two versions?

$(i)$ Two events are independent if the occurrence of one does not
affect the probability of occurrence of the other.


$(ii)$ Two events are independent if the occurrence of one does not
affect the occurrence of the other.




ADDENDUM
On further pondering, I have resolved both questions:
2.
Consider this experiment: flip two fair coins, letting $H_1$ be the event that the first coin lands on Heads, and $X$ be the event that the coins land on different sides. Then $$ P\left(H_1 \cap X\right)=\frac14=P(H_1)\:P(X);$$ i.e., $H_1$ and $X$ are independent events.
Knowledge that $H_1$ happens reduces the possible number of ways that $X$ can eventuate—from $2$ (HT, TH) to $1$ (HT)—but does not change the probability $\left(\frac12\right)$ of $X.$
1.
The following revision characterises pairwise independence more clearly and accurately:

Let $P(A)\neq0.$
Events $A$ and $B$ are independent iff. the knowledge that $A$ happens doesn't change $B$'s probability.

Almost-never events are now excluded from being conditioned on. (What does it even mean to say that an almost-never event has happened: in what sense have I hit the exact centre of a dartboard?) It motivates the definition of pairwise independence, which does allow both events to be impossible.

REPLY [3 votes]: Events $A$ and $B$ are indeed defined to be independent if $P[AB] = P[A]P[B]$.  This definition holds for all cases, including cases when $P[A]=0$ and/or $P[B]=0$. The definition leads to your desired interpretation "knowing if $B$ occurred does not affect the likelihood of $A$"  in the special case $P[B]>0$, since it means $P[A|B] = P[A]$ in that case. It does not allow your interpretation in the case when $P[B]=0$, since we cannot condition on a zero-probability event.  So indeed, there are peculiarities when $P[B]=0$ since intuition fails in that case. Nevertheless, your intuition is still useful since it applies when $P[B]>0$.
It may also be helpful to observe that if $P[B]=0$ then $P[A|B^c] = P[A]$, which is intuitively what we would want when $A$ and $B^c$ are independent.

A situation about darts similar to the one you posed can be addressed by the definitions of conditioning with respect to a random variable. For a dartboard, we can imagine $(X,Y)$ uniformly distributed over a 2-d ball of radius 1.  Then define $R = \sqrt{X^2+Y^2}$ as the distance from the center.  Consider the events:
$$ A = \{R \leq 1/10\}, B = \{R = 1/10\}$$
Now $P[B]=0$ so $A$ and $B$ are independent.  Nevertheless this is similar to the situation you describe because $B \subseteq A$, so "intuitively" we would want $P[A|B]=1$. This holds if we use:
$$ P[A|R=r] = \frac{f_{R|A}(r)P[A]}{f_R(r)} $$
which shall be applied when $f_R$ and $f_{R|A}$ are continuous at point $r$ and $f_R(r)\neq 0$,
and we observe:
\begin{align}
f_R(r) &= \left\{\begin{array}{cc} 
2r  &  \mbox{ if $r \in [0,1]$}\\
0 & \mbox{else} 
\end{array}\right.\\
f_{R|A}(r) &= \left\{\begin{array}{cc}
\frac{2r}{P[A]} & \mbox{ if $r \in [0,1/10]$} \\
0 & \mbox{ else} 
\end{array}\right.
\end{align}
so
$$ P[A|R=r] = \left\{\begin{array}{cc}
0 & \mbox{if $1/10 < r<1$} \\
1 & \mbox{ if $0<r\leq 1/10$} 
\end{array}\right.$$
Our expression $P[A|R=r]$ cannot be viewed as an instance of the definition of conditional probability $P[A|B]$ for events $A$ and $B$, since the event $\{R=r\}$ has probability 0.  Rather, it is an expression related to the definition of conditioning on a random variable $R$. Formally, you can say the random variable $Z$ defined by
$$ Z = \left\{\begin{array}{cc}
0 & \mbox{if $R>1/10$} \\
1 & \mbox{ if $0\leq R \leq 1/10$} 
\end{array}\right.$$
is a "version" of the conditional expectation $E[1_A|R]$.  As such, it is almost surely the same as any other version. Thus, while this version takes the liberty to define $Z=1$ when $R=0$, and $Z=0$ when $R\geq 1$, this is fine because it only affects a set of measure 0.