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Talk:Human Access Project

Awards
I was hoping to add a section in the top grid section for Awards - I have seen that on another site. Regarding this award from ASLA Oregon - https://m.facebook.com/ASLAOregon/posts/willie-levenson-founder-and-ringleader-of-the-human-access-project-will-receive-/2374496089232011/ Gangstaoflove (talk) 02:23, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Cathedral Park Cleanup
I added before and after photos on Wikicommons Gangstaoflove (talk) 01:51, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Cathedral Park River Fest
-- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * https://www.opb.org/article/2024/06/30/cathedral-park-new-dock-swimming-celebration/

 * Howdy!!! I just added some new content for this page and Cathedral Park for Cathedral Park Riverfest. I also added photos in wiki commons.
 * Could you please add the photos where you feel it’s appropriate?
 * Also - could you possible set up a sub heading for information on Ringleader Willie Levenson? I believe there is ample material to build this out.
 * Many thanks! Gangstaoflove (talk) 15:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Gangstaoflove What's your one preferred image for the Cathedral Park section? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking - I trust your judgement!!
 * ps can you help me fix this? A logo / photo does not come up when searching. If you search for human access project on the home wiki page the associated logo is blank next to the search….
 * Thank you!! Gangstaoflove (talk) 19:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I've added an image to the Cathedral Park section. Not sure where you are searching, but don't worry about the logo not showing. It is probably because the logo has been uploaded under fair use (copyrighted), so viewing is restricted. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Please don't add unnecessary detail about Willie Levenson; this article should stay focused on the organization and its operations and activities. If you are interested in working on an article for Willie Levenson, please do so at Draft:Willie Levenson. Thanks! --- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 19:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Got it - ok! Gangstaoflove (talk) 19:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No problem on removing the Willie background stuff - not entirely sure what is appropriate and what is not although background on the founder and current director arguably has merit - but your call and I support it 👍🏼 Gangstaoflove (talk) 19:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Gangstaoflove Thanks for understanding. Just trying to keep this entry on topic. I noticed "Unrocking the Bowl" work is mentioned at the start and end of the "Site improvements" section. Are you able to do a trim here? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure like maybe merge the two or just clip the first mention? Gangstaoflove (talk) 19:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Gangstaoflove Whatever changes make more clear the work done in 2012 vs the work done in 2023. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Recent changes
Another editor (User:GreenLipstickLesbian) has removed some content from this article because of copyright violations. While I appreciate your updates to Wikipedia and have enjoyed collaborating, I also trust GreenLipstickLesbian is making appropriate trims. When you add content to Wikipedia, please be sure to summarize and write original text. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

 * I made some quick changes to buy some time to not be deleted. I can read the guidelines and try again - but curious if my rewrites are on the right track?
 * Many thanks! Gangstaoflove (talk) 21:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Whoa - pretty heavy edits - I will review the guidelines - I was not aware of this. I will give it another shot after reviewing. I will chalk it up to learning curve. I didn’t do any of that intentionally just thought it made the sources more solid.
 * Hope this didn’t cause you any trouble on your side - I appreciate all your help 👍🏼 Gangstaoflove (talk) 22:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Another Believer
 * Just curious if the tag on the page will ever drop? I went in and basically rewrote what was left on the page.
 * i never did read any instructions on how to write I just took away that what was written had to be sited so I assume pulling directly from articles was the safest way to provide uncontested information.
 * I would like to take a crack a rebuilding the page but will fully read the guildlies before I do… Gangstaoflove (talk) 14:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Gangstaoflove The tag will be removed, after an admin deletes the prior versions of this article with copyright violations. This has more to do with the article history than the current text. You can continue to make improvements to the article in the meantime. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Got it - will probably pick back up this fall - many thanks - will bone up on the guidelines 👍🏼 Gangstaoflove (talk) 15:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Gangstaoflove -- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 16:19, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Right on - look forward to making much better than the initial go 😁 Gangstaoflove (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:David Amess

Comedy
Jasonm23 : I wonder if anyone has further information (verified) as to how David Amess appearance on Brass Eye and the Mark Thomas Comedy Project, affected his political career.

 * Shouldn't there be some mention of Amess' relationship with that notoriously dangerous made-up drug on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 18:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

 * There should be indeed. It is a rather notable incident The Next Biggish Thing (talk) 16:43, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

The piece about this was removed, but I've undone the edit to remove it. There's absolutely no justification for it not being in his Wikipedia article. -JA

 * Shouldn't have been removed. It's the main reason most people have heard of him. Haha. Equinox ◑ 15:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:David.amess-mark.thomas.jpg
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His son's violence
I'm sure this was once on this entry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/4267591.stm

<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 06:25, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

 * This article is from 2005. Thank you for this!
 * "Amess was sentenced to four years in jail. "
 * "The court heard Amess had been trying to impress a woman when the fight broke out. "
 * What an idiot!!!
 * " He swung the bottle after some pushing and shoving between the two men, leaving Mr Trussler with a 4cm cut.
 * When interviewed by officers, he admitted hitting Mr Trussler with the bottle but claimed it was in self-defence. " New hordak from 2018 (talk) 20:25, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

 * A serious assault. But this source says that the assailant ".. won a cut in his prison sentence from four years to three but judges rejected claims that the conviction was "unsafe"." It also says "Southend West MP David Amess has vowed to continue fighting to clear his son's name after an appeal against his conviction for assault was lost." So it might be argued that it is relevant to Amess' private life? But I'm not sure it's really sufficiently notable. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:43, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. Hope you're well. If the MP is abusing his influence, to reduce his son's sentence from 4 to 3 years, then this should be notable enough on his Wikipedia page. What is your opinion? New hordak from 2018 (talk) 11:39, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

 * I have seen no evidence, nor even any suggestion, that Amess was "abusing his influence", to reduce his son's sentence from 4 to 3 years. If he was jailed in 2005, his release is now old news anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:52, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

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Time for an ‘Attacks on British politicians’ article?
I wonder if it’s time for a “attacks on British politicians” article, what do editors think? Inadvertent Consequences (talk) 14:45, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Or a section in Surgery (politics), as this is where the attacks seem to take place.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:01, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If you will point us to a couple of the online sources on which, in the first instance, you would base the wiki-entry, it will become easier to see what you have in mind. Charles01 (talk) 16:06, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Would it have a much wider scope than List of assassinated serving British MPs? Jim Michael (talk) 20:27, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think we need a further page than List of assassinated serving British MPs to include non-fatal attacks. A killing is easy to define, but where an "attack" begins or ends is up to debate. Physical violence against MPs is rare, but nobody in 12 months' time will care about the recent non-serious attack on Iain Duncan Smith, from what he said about it, probably not even himself. Unknown Temptation (talk) 22:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with Unknown Temptation, there is already a category in wikipedia that covers what you are proposing. The word "attack" is tricky and is subject to WP:NPOV issues. Unless there is a compelling reason to create a new category, I would not support the suggested change. Jurisdicta (talk) 15:43, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2021
The cause of death is currently murder not homicide - homicide is a US term, murder is the correct UK term. Noting cause of death is likely to require be further updated to assassination on conviction Stuey26 (talk) 04:20, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I updated it to murder for now. I'm not too sure about assassination, as the murder of Jo Cox should definitely be considered an assassination, but is still considered a murder. DarkHorse234 (talk) 05:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Query re being PPS to Michael Portillo (section Political career)
It states that Amess was PPS to Michael Portillo, appointed after the 1987 general election and serving him 'ten years' and 'throughout Portillo's ministerial career'. However, a check of Portillo's wikipedia article shows the latter apparently only held ministerial rank (beginning as Chief Secretary at the Treasury in 1992) for five years before losing his Enfield Southgate seat in the 1997 general election. Surely backbench MPs don't have PPSs?Cloptonson (talk) 07:06, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I notice that while the statement is still unaltered, it has been joined by a statement in the lead summary which inflates his period as Portillo PPS to 'twelve years'.Cloptonson (talk) 07:43, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Appeared in video of Bananarama songs
Something for the section 'Media' if someone can find sourced background on this. I recall Amess was one of a number of MPs in various locations in the Westminster environment who appeared in a mock pop video apparently moving to various Bananarama songs. Amess and Lord St John of Fawsley were shown hand jiving or clapping in time to the tune of 'Robert de Niro' seated together in a taxi back seat. (Other MPs shown included Harry Greenaway and Geoffrey Dickens.) I saw this shown as part of a Clive James New Year special in the later 80s but I forget the exact year, which may be clue as to when the video was made. I have not found out what the video was made for, I wonder if it was a 'Comic Relief' stunt?Cloptonson (talk) 07:22, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2021 (2)
Cause of death is Islamist terrorism by a British national of Somali origin. ZebraaaLounge (talk) 07:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Terrorism is a possible motive, not a cause. The cause of death is stabbing. WWGB (talk)
 * Also, that's not confirmed as they've not been convicted. Us posting that wouls be a violation of WP:BLPCRIME. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 * User:Joseph2302 In those countries as Iraq, Somalia, it would be impossible to convict terrorists. so terrorism as motive won't be proved ever. --ZebraaaLounge (talk) 11:15, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 * If well documented by RSs, appropriate to reflect the investigation and police statements Re possible Islamist terrorism as motive. But no conclusory statement of guilt is ok without an official statement of guilt. 2600:1017:B811:9C4D:CD3A:DA6F:B26A:D606 (talk) 17:57, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Islamist terror attack
Given that the murder is now being investigated by the Metropolitan Police Service's Counter Terrorism Command, and that most main stream media organisations are now reporting it as an Islamist terror incident by a 25-year-old British man of Somali heritage, why is not mentioned on an article that has been visited | over 740,000 times in the last 24 hours? 2A02:C7F:7739:8700:D01F:B599:294D:F628 (talk) 09:34, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * See Killing of David Amess. There is no need for duplication/ repetition. Dormskirk (talk) 09:38, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No thanks. Why force people off this article and onto another one, just to find the answer to an obvious question? See |this. I note not been as quick to remove the killer from that article as has been done on this article. 2A02:C7F:7739:8700:D01F:B599:294D:F628 (talk) 10:28, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed. The killing article is a unnecessary content fork with only |David_Amess 10% of the readership of this main article.  It's this article which matters and so it should be reasonably comprehensive. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:50, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * For the record, I have not deleted anything from the section on the death of David Amess in this article nor, as suggested above, did I introduce the content fork. Dormskirk (talk) 10:58, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No one has said have; but you've also not deleted the parts on Jo Cox, given that you think mentioning the murderer here is "duplication/ repetition". 2A02:C7F:7739:8700:8455:AE95:4E81:713A (talk) 11:28, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I am actually fine to see some expansion here. Dormskirk (talk) 11:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's great. I think consistency is best. 2A02:C7F:7739:8700:8455:AE95:4E81:713A (talk) 12:05, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 * No,, this is not what the police have declared it to be, at all. The article you cite states: "The Metropolitan Police said there was a potential link to Islamist extremism. A 25-year-old British man was arrested at the scene on suspicion of murder." Why is the fact the suspect is an Islamist extremist being suppressed from this article, when over at Jo Cox's article, almost an entire section is given to describing the killer and his background? I see no difference between this murder and Jo Cox's tragic death. 2A02:C7F:7739:8700:8455:AE95:4E81:713A (talk) 12:52, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Why did the link to the assassination get removed from the top part of the page?

Surely it should direct to the article the public interest is coming here to view? Declanhx (talk) 14:26, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 * There seems to be some selective editing going on here, Declanhx, based on editor's political leanings. What I will say is that it is too early to call it an assassination, so we have to tread carefully in that regard. 2A04:4A43:477E:71B6:BC28:693F:1673:6EE1 (talk) 15:02, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * What we haqve @declanhx is the usual "people" trying to trying to claim the killing was a Islamic terrorist attack and assassination by a Muslim. What we actually have at this early stage is the arrest of A UK NATIONAL for the killing. Thats it. Thats all we really know so far. The subject was murdered by a UK national, so until we have more facts that can be quoted, thats what the article says. But we have the usual type of editor trying to force their selective biased editing on the article. Thats why it is protected, editors like that are why we cant have nice things arent they IPAddress?2A00:23C4:220:CF01:1824:77E5:BD07:1623 (talk) 15:14, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Curious use of speech marks with "people" - who were you quoting? Clearly, you're not reading the news. Give it a go, inform yourself. The suspect for the Amess murder was indeed a UK national, that is not in dispute; the dispute is that for some unexplained reason, selective editing is taking place with regards to the nature of the investigation. It has been confirmed that the killing is being treated as an Islamist terror attack. This article is silent on the matter. However, over on Jo Cox, it's like This Is Your Life is taking place for the perpetrator. Why would that be? Either you explain the background of both suspects/murderers on both articles, or none at all.  I appreciate this is rolling news and we shouldn't be assuming anything, certainly not least because up until the suspect is convicted, he is innocent, but it's now freely reported that this is an Islamist fundamentalist it would be dishonest for us not to mention it here. 2A02:C7F:869:5600:B9A5:F464:635D:6613 (talk) 15:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The suspect's name has now been released. Another uncomfortable truth] for biased Wikipedia, which'll no doubt be ignored. 2A02:C7F:7739:8700:154E:6D1F:E41E:5D29 (talk) 19:40, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The obvious difference is that Jo Cox's death happened over 5 years ago, and we can safely call it a murder since there was a conviction nearly 5 years ago. The section in this article should and will be expanded as more details become available. But there is no rush as wikipedia has WP:no deadline. We have to take appropriate care, especially in matters concerning living persons. Nil Einne (talk) 22:11, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I get that, but the fact it's been declared an Islamist attack won't change and should be reflected in the article. You can bet your last dollar that had this have been anything but an Islamist attack, people would be falling over themselves to add it in. 2A04:4A43:47FF:7DD3:199F:1ED8:F480:7480 (talk) 10:33, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Police definitely have made mistakes before, both in the UK and elsewhere. Mistakes are sometimes significant enough to add anyway, but it depends on the circumstances and in this case the fact there is a separate article which covers the nitty-gritty means mistake which are not significantly related to David Amess may not always merit coverage here. And again, while we cannot be responsible for mistakes and choices sources make, we do have to consider whether it's appropriate for us to simply repeat something which some source has said in a rush for coverage early on. We are not a news site and anyone using us as one should be looking elsewhere. We are supposed to be slow, and anyone who tries to rush things be it involving something related to Islamist terrorism, or neo-Nazi terrorism is doing the wrong thing. This is a fairly dumb dispute anyway the information has been there since about 5 hours after my reply or about 5 hours before your last reply [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Amess&diff=1050315795&oldid=1050315608] Nil Einne (talk) 10:01, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2021 (3)
Change section title from Death to Killing. Comports with article it connects to. More descriptive. Still short - only one word. 2600:1017:B811:9C4D:CD3A:DA6F:B26A:D606 (talk) 18:07, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 * No, being discussed at the article about this- doesn't need repeating the argument here. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:02, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 * Actually, firstly that’s not the discussion there — it is whether to change Killing to Assassination. Both of those have the element of a killing. Obviously, “Death” lacks that specificity. Secondly, it’s rather odd to not have the phrases comport between the articles. If there is a later change to assassination, we can make that change here. For now they should comport. Thirdly, there’s no discernible benefit to readers for us to hide from them in the subject title that this was not simply a death, but a killing - rather, it’s a rank disservice. What possible benefit could you have in mind? 2603:7000:2143:8500:D895:89B9:9C8E:3A (talk) 21:17, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Callin an article Killing of X is fine, but having a section title killing is just weird. Section titles are only intended to convey to readers what they are about. They aren't intended to be a summary. Death is the norm in the absence of something better, which killing isn't. See e.g. [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jo_Cox&diff=751152946&oldid=751151859#Assassination] Nil Einne (talk) 22:01, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 * No. It’s normal. Death is a set, that contains non-killings as well - in fact most deaths are not killings. Killing is a subset of it. And therefore more explanatory. This is rather simple. (Murder, if it were reported as such, would be an even smaller and more precise subset of killing). And conveys more to the reader (surely, nobody wishes to convey less to the reader).

What’s really weird is some editor took the BBC article - which is the ref - which repeatedly refers to the “killing” of the man. And twisted it even in the text to “death.” Bizarre. Obviously the “death” is not a possible terrorist incident. It’s the killing. That’s why BBC wrote it the way they did — that also need to be changed in the text of the section. It’s simply wrong as is. 2603:7000:2143:8500:A807:AEB1:9E73:BD45 (talk) 22:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It's most definitely not normal. I don't think I've ever seen one article like that. What the BBC do is besides the point, we have our on style guidelines, norms and policies as an encyclopaedia instead of a news source. But I doubt they have a section titled only "killing" anyway. Our section has made it clear probably since we first mentioned the death that the person was killed. I do think it would be better to say killing in the text bit about it being a terrorist incident [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Amess&diff=1050521924&oldid=1050521251] but I don't really care about something which will be changed in a week or less so I'm not going to fight over it if someone objects. This is a completely different issue from the section title anyway which was the sole focus of your earlier comments and my earlier replies. Nil Einne (talk) 10:06, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

David_Amess
This section is egregiously promotional and sourced almost entirely to statutes and Hansard. It looks more impressive because Driving Instructors (Registration) Act 2016 and Specialist Printing Equipment and Materials (Offences) Act 2015 are bluelinks, but those are also sourced only to legislation and Hansard. I would promote cutting this section substantially, if not removing it entirely. Unless, of course, there are other good sources on his legislative career? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:51, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

 * Promotional? The subject is dead and so this complaint seems to be absurd.  Statutes and Hansard are obviously the most reliable sources for these facts and therefore quite appropriate. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:11, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No, this complaint is not absurd. One can promote the activities of a dead person—see almost any obituary. Statutes and Hansard are of course reliable, but they are also primary and therefore cannot demonstrate either the notability of a given statute or its proper analysis. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 13:19, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * A lot of content there is mentioned in obituaries (see the Guardian: But he was also a serious politician who achieved the rare feat of piloting two private members’ bills into law: one on animal welfare – the Protection Against Cruel Tethering Act (1988) – and the other requiring the government to implement policies reducing fuel poverty – the Warm Homes and Energy Conservation Act (2000) – a cause taken up following the death of one of his constituents from hypothermia.) although I am aware we have to think about whether citogenesis applies here. —AFreshStart (talk) 22:02, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Removal of irrelevant detail in personal life section
I want to explain my removal of content from the article. In this edit I removed a sentence about the 2005 conviction and prison sentence given to Amess' son David Junior. My rational is two-fold. Firstly the article is about Amess, not his son. Secondly, in the UK the rehabilitation of offenders for a sentence up to and including four years in jail is 7 years after the sentence ends. So even if it was relevant to this article it would be unfair to list it. 10mmsocket (talk) 11:36, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

 * I agree with the removal on the first point alone, it's not relevant. As the second part goes, I think that Wikipedia can list 'spent' convictions (It's a US site) if they are otherwise appropriate for an article. JeffUK (talk) 17:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Inclusion of Assassination category
In the UK if an MP or Lord is killed in office it is classified as an assassination. Surely we should be including Category:Assassinated British MPs and Category:Assassinated English politicians as we have done with every other murdered MP: Jo Cox, Ian Gow, Airey Neave etc. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 08:43, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Assassination is a type of murder. No one here has been convicted of murder. WWGB (talk) 09:33, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It's noticeable that the British press is referring to 'the death of David Amess' and not 'murder' or 'assassination'. Which is, as WWGB observes, because at present this is a suspected murder/assassination, until someone is convicted of it. The Land (talk) 13:02, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, I've come across the press referring to this as a murder. See for example this Sky News article, which includes among others the following bits of text: "Ali Harbi Ali, a British man with Somali heritage, is being questioned by counter terrorism police over the murder of Conservative MP Sir David Amess" and "The police investigation into Sir David's murder". Darren.enlight (talk) 06:36, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a murder investigation, as described by the Met Police themselves. There has been significant politically-charged editing going here and it is unfair to ignore the police's own arrest charges based on the as-yet unknown motivations of the murderer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 09:06, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Suspect's name
I saw the arrested suspect's name was missing in the article and I added it in. This change was immediately removed, claiming the consensus on the talk page for this article was to leave it out, but I see no such consensus on this talk page? Also, the last mention of the suspect's name being released to the press is from Oct 16. It's five days later and there are more and more articles being published looking into the suspect's history, such as the one you can find here, from Sky News. Given the media attention and its wide circulation of the name, it seems like odd censorship not to include this bit of common and relevant knowledge? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darren.enlight (talk • contribs) 06:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC) Especially since even if the suspect will be released without charge (which seems highly unlikely at this point, given the circumstance of his arrest), his name will still be relevant to the case of the murder investigation. Darren.enlight (talk) 06:29, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I did not say there was consensus to leave it out, I said there was NO consensus to include the name. Very different meanings. WWGB (talk) 06:50, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's even worse then, in the sense that you're going around censoring information without there being any consensus to do so (no consensus to include the name also means no consensus to leave it out. As the information is widely available, there has to be a really good reason to censor it when the name is relevant, and when there is no expectation of privacy at this point, once police has released it). Darren.enlight (talk) 07:08, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Also, you pointed me to this being discussed in the talk page, and I found no evidence of that...? Darren.enlight (talk) 07:09, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, the discussion is at Talk:Killing of David Amess. My apologies. WWGB (talk) 09:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If there is doubt over use of the name at Killing of David Amess, I would expect there to be even more diubt to apply here at the main article about him. Strictly speaking there should be another, separate discussion here. But I suspect it really would be a copy of the same arguments. So for reference the thread over there is this one: Talk:Killing of David Amess. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:54, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Initial Summary
Can anyone explain why an edit highlighting his LGBT views was removed, while his votes on other issues remain? Some Guy that Wants Truth (talk) 13:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Red links
It is inappropriate to remove all red links from an article. Where there would usefully be an article on that topic, a red link is legitimate. See Red link. Mauls (talk) 20:11, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

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Prolog is considered a difficult language to master, especially when the student tries to rush things, mainly because of the different way of thinking the student has to adopt and amount of recursion in prolog programs. When used correctly, however, prolog can be a very powerful language.

Why Learn Prolog?
Learning prolog will certainly not always be as fruitful as learning C++, Java or Python. Prolog is most useful in the areas related to artificial intelligence research, such as problem solving, (path) planning or natural language interpretation. Some fields that are not strictly AI, such as parser building, can also benefit greatly from prolog.

However, those that do not work with natural language systems daily can also benefit greatly from Prolog. As Prolog uses certain programming techniques that are considered difficult or advanced (most notably recursion), Prolog  can be a great way of gaining insight into these techniques. A practised Prolog programmer will certainly have an in-depth understanding of such concepts as recursion, searching problem trees, and constraint logic programming. Prolog can even serve as a 'sketching' tool to try out basic programming ideas before implementing them in procedural languages.

Because of its close ties with predicate logic, learning Prolog can lead to a more fluent understanding of predicate logic. (The reverse is true as well: anyone experienced in predicate logic will certainly be able to pick up Prolog faster)

All in all, if you're looking to improve your resume as a web designer, Prolog may not be the way to go. Prolog is still mainly an academic language. This doesn't mean it's purely for testing ideas or outlining techniques. Very complex programs have been written in Prolog. Most of all, Prolog is a complex, powerful, and elegant language that can inspire great satisfaction in its users; at times inspiring immense irritation as well.

As stated before, learning Prolog is not easy. Prolog doesn't work as naturally as procedural languages and therefore requires a specific way of thinking. When learning Prolog it's important to take things slow, and let the concepts settle before moving on. It's also advisable to use more than one text or textbook in the learning process to get multiple perspectives on a subject. As a final note, once you've mastered something tricky that wasn't explained clearly here, feel free to edit this text on Wikibooks, so that future students can learn it more easily.

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Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/First Battle of Newtonia/archive1

TFA blurb review
The First Battle of Newtonia was fought on September 30, 1862, near Newtonia, Missouri, during the American Civil War. Confederate soldiers commanded by Colonel Douglas H. Cooper clashed with a Union column commanded by Brigadier General Frederick C. Salomon. Cooper's force consisted mostly of cavalry including a brigade of Native Americans. A Union force commanded by Colonel Edward Lynde was driven out of Newtonia during the morning. Both sides brought up reinforcements, and seesaw fighting took place during the afternoon. Shortly before nightfall, the Confederates made an all-out attack, causing Salomon to withdraw. Union militia covered the retreat, although Confederate artillery fire turned it into a disorderly rout. Union casualties were approximately 245, against Confederate losses of 78. Blunt's whole division advanced towards Newtonia in early October, and Cooper abandoned Missouri. A portion of the battlefield was listed in 2004 as the First Battle of Newtonia Historic District.

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Hi and congratulations. A draft blurb for this article is above. Thoughts, comments and edits from you or from anyone else interested are welcome. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:01, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * - I can only see two things with this: Since the article's written in American English, and is an American subject, I'd use totaled instead of totalled, (the former is the Americanism).  Additionally, there is some variance in the estimates of Union casualties (although 245 is the most common).  Should that variance be reflected in the article? Hog Farm Bacon 16:08, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

 * Hog Farm: It's your FA, you can make whatever changes you want. How's this? Gog the Mild (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Gog the Mild: Yeah, that works. I just didn't want to mess around with it too much, as I don't know the exact specifications for TFA blurbs. Thanks! Hog Farm Bacon 16:25, 17 August 2020 (UTC)


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The Last Temptation of Reid

The Last Temptation of Reid is the debut studio album by Lard, released in 1990.

The album includes a cover of "They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!", originally performed by Napoleon XIV, with the addition of a guitar part and an extra verse (written by Jello Biafra) to the original song's setup. The album also includes the song "Forkboy" which was used on the Natural Born Killers soundtrack and covered by Flotsam and Jetsam (on their album, High) and industrial rock act Black Light Burns.

The vinyl LP version of the album does not include the track "I Am Your Clock", which was instead released as a separate 12" Single.

The album's title is a reference to the Martin Scorsese film, The Last Temptation of Christ. A movie poster for the film is included in the liner notes of the album, only with the name "Reid" pasted over "Christ" in the title. "Reid" refers to Reid Hyams, who recorded the group's first EP, The Power of Lard, and co-owned Chicago Trax. A photo of Hyams can be seen on the back cover of the vinyl issue of the album and in the booklet of the CD.

Track listing
All songs written by Biafra/Jourgensen/Barker/Ward, except when noted.

 * 1) "Forkboy" (Biafra, Jourgensen, Barker, Rieflin, Ward) – 3:53
 * 2) "Pineapple Face" – 6:37
 * 3) "Mate Spawn & Die" (Biafra, Jourgensen, Barker, Rieflin, Ward) – 4:55
 * 4) "Drug Raid At 4 AM" – 5:01
 * 5) "Can God Fill Teeth?" – 4:20
 * 6) "Bozo Skeleton" – 4:30
 * 7) "Sylvestre Matuschka" – 3:54
 * 8) "They're Coming to Take Me Away" – 8:28 (N. Bonaparte)
 * 9) "I Am Your Clock" – 15:29

Lard

 * Jello Biafra – lead vocals, deprogramming, sleeve concept, back cover photo
 * Alien Jourgensen – guitars, programming, production
 * Paul Barker – bass, programming, production
 * Jeff Ward – drums (2, 4–9), vocals

Additional personnel

 * William Rieflin – drums (1, 3)
 * Jeff Newell – engineer
 * Winston Smith – front cover artwork & "Ant People" (rear cover artwork)
 * John Yates – sleeve design

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Victor Gilbert

Victor Gilbert (27 May 1905 – 6 December 1978) was a British sports shooter. He competed in the 50 m rifle event at the 1948 Summer Olympics.

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cream crackered

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1)  Knackered; tired, exhausted.
 * 2) * 2019, Hop (character), Pokémon Sword and Shield, Game Freak
 * Now, I'm cream-crackered! I'm for the Budew Drop Inn and some sleep.

Usage notes

 * This is often shortened to just cream.

Synonyms

 * ; See also Thesaurus:fatigued

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sandbur

Noun

 * 1) Any of several grasses, of the genus, found in the south-eastern United States, that has a spiny burr

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spovedi

Etymology
.

Verb

 * 1)  to confess unburden oneself of sins in presence of a priest, in order to receive absolution

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User:Jansegers

My name is Pieter Jansegers.

I'm a teacher of French in the Dutch speaking part of Belgium.

I did study French and Italian (both litterature and linguistics) at the University of Ghent.

I'm an ICT enthusiast and my contribution on this system will be concentrated on three points:

1) French

2) linguistics

3) ICT use in general

some of my sites:

http://jansegers.blogspot.com

http://vocabulaire.eduinfo.com

http://ticerama.eduinfo.com

other info needed, see:

http://dmoz.org/profiles/jansegers.html

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Template talk:Music of Italy

FIMI link
I just tried to put in a link to the FIMI page under charts. It should link to FIMI: Federation of the Italian music industry, but it doesn't. It doesn't on this page either, as you notice.

 * problem solved...maybe the case and colon or spacing was causing a problem. I redirected to Federation of the Italian music industry. It works.

Originally, I intended that extra page of festivals to be a place-holder and reminder to myself, so that I could write them up one by one and insert them into the festival section as separate "stubby" articles, as I did with the others. The list is still up (unlinked) at Italian music festivals. I still think it useful to have a longer list like that, but maybe it isn't Wikipedia policy.

(later) oops...I see that you just moved it over to the left under the main heading. I linked that to the list.

The regions are a problem. If I use my own page Music of Naples-- that I am currently working on--as a guide, I don't think I can cover all those areas in any reasonable length of time.

That Patchanka link is wrong, I think. It isn't folk music. I'm not sure that it is even a separate category of music. I know there is one album by that name. If it is now a "kind" of music, someone should do a stub on it. Jeffmatt 07:50, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

regions?
I notice that when the music box first went up, someone deleted "Genoa" because it is not a region. That is true, but neither is Naples or Venice. "Regione" in Italian corresponds to "state" and is an official administrative unit. I don't see anything wrong with using "Regional" in the English sense--meaning "area", so I am happy with the listings the way they are and shall try to fill some of them in over the course of the next few days. (In the meantime, I'll let the main article go for a while.) But--to cover the nitpickers, we could change "Regional sytles" to something totally hokey and wishy-washy, such as "Styles by area", "Music, area by area", etc. etc. I favor leaving it the way it is. Jeffmatt 18:02, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree -- this is the English wikipedia, so we can logically use the English word "regional". I'll go ahead and restore regional, since that's the most logical descriptor. (you may also be interested in taking a look at list of cultural and regional genres of music -- there's a bunch of Italian cities listed there, all of which came from Music encyclopedia topics) Tuf-Kat 02:13, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * And I've removed patchanka. Good luck on the regions.  (you don't need to make them all as detailed as music of Naples, though that would certainly be great -- even just a couple paragraph overview of the most important bits can be useful). Tuf-Kat 02:19, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Now that I look at those items in the box, I see that we haven't included all the regions. (It's actually not a bad idea to make the English "region" correspond to the official Italian use of "regione" in this case.) I see one (Valle d'Aosta) that is missing; I'll put it in--an others, if necessary. Right now, I am just filling in a bit of history, places and events, venues, whatever is easiest--some external links. Not much in the way of "styles" as in "Regional styles"--that seems to me to be more of a "folk" concept. That's fine, too, but it'll have to get done at a later date. (OR: change the heading "Regional styles" to something else.) I'm indicating in the text of articles about cities (Naples, Rome, Venice) that these are city articles; then, I'm pointing to the article about the relevant region. It may be that we can delete Genoa again, and cover it in the region. Jeffmatt 06:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

how about the regional infobox?
I'm wondering if it is not a bad idea to load the Template:Infobox Region of Italy in the relevant pages of the regional aticles--not the whole box, just the map portion with the relevant region in red. I might try that if I get some energy. Or maybe not.Jeffmatt 07:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Out of curiosity, I need a geeked-down explanation of why the Valle d'Aosta link works fine from all the other regional articles, but from the main Music of Italy article opens to the discussion page and not the article. Jeffmatt 07:51, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't see any problem... Circeus 17:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I am in the process of filling in the red links with beautiful blue. Besides the regions, it makes sense to have four cities. Two are "done"...Venice ( expanded that one, but it's still sketchy) and Naples...and point to their respective regional articles (the one on Veneto is still in progress). The other two separate cities (with relevent point-to-region links) should be Rome (Lazio) and Milan (Lombardy). It'll take a day or two.Jeffmatt 17:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I think you don't need to double cat all the subdivisions (see WP:CAT).
 * I can add an optional map if you want under the list of subdivisions too, if you want.
 * Done (see Music of Campania for an example), however, I do not believe this to be a good idea. It stretches the box too much.
 * You need to bold the entire topic, not just the geographical name.
 * Circeus 17:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Also, for consistency, I think you'll want to create articles for all regions. Circeus 18:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree -- Wikipedia could and should have articles on every region and a goodly number of cities. What you've done so far looks quite good, maybe I'll see if I can help out a bit this weekend, just please cite your sources.  I agree on not double-catting; being in Category:Music of Italian subdivisions means that the article is already Category:Italian music because the former is a subcategory of the latter.  I could go either way on the maps, actually -- I read this talk page first and thought I wouldn't like the map, but it really didn't look too bad...  I guess I still lean towards removing it because it makes the box long. Tuf-Kat 01:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't like the idea of the map because in most cases, it'll stretch the articles. Besides, I think an article series box (because that's what Musicboxes really are) is hardly a place to put a map. Circeus 02:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I added a few more maps, but I'll cease and desist. I just got enthusiastic with my new-found ability to fiddle with music-boxes. (Uh...rimshot...that was a pun). Maybe the map does stretch the box too much. On the other hand, it doesn't hurt to show people where the region is. Maybe the simple region map as a photo at the top on the left.

Source citing. Well, so far there are no scholarly sources to cites. It's pretty much tourist book stuff--places and names. In any event, I'll keep it in mind. Thank you both for the comments and the work. Jeffmatt 06:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

 * For now, I'll put in a single parenthetical bit of text to cite the only source I am using.) Jeffmatt 08:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I deleted Genoa and will cover it in the region of Liguria. A few thoughts about the map:

I think I like the idea--for various reasons.
 * (1) It's informative. I mean, I live here and even I didn't know where all those regions were until I started doing this. If a reader reads a sentence on the order of "due to location, there was influence from northern Europe" (or something like that), the eyes can just glance over and see;
 * (2) an additional graphic resets the reader's attention span, which even Wikpedia says is down to about 12 seconds and fading fast!
 * (3) a lengthened box doesn't bother me--it helps. Narrow columns of print are easier on the eye--easier to read--according to those who write about on-screen communication. Much of the text in Wikpedia is hard to read from that point of view.

In any event, I'm having fun and have no particular axe to grind. Do what you think is best. Jeffmatt 10:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

changed name
... of "Regional styles" to "Music by Region and city". I think it sounds better, but if anyone feels otherwise, feel free to change it back. (In which case, do it manually and not with the revert function or you might lose some of the new regions I put in.)Jeffmatt 18:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

 * All of the regions and four or five important cities are now all blue-linked. Most of the blue links are "done" (or at least useful, though they could use further expansion) and a few are only stubs, but I'll get to them....about 5 or 6 left to go. Jeffmatt 17:50, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Looking really great! Tuf-Kat 00:33, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Oops, that's what.....
....happens when you get in a hurry...or stop thinking...I screwed up the Emilia (-) Romagna page. I recall thinking how clumsy that hyphen looked since there are hyphens used to separate region from region. So, I sez...just take it out...without thinking what it would do to the artifically unintelligent links in the machine. (Just so you know, even Italians don't use that hyphen most of the time.) There are other regions in Italian like that, and they should all be unhyphenated. When I become emperor of the universe, I shall make it so. Sorry. Thank you for fixing it.

Three more to go in that box. "Regional scenes" is fine, except (1) there are also cities in there--so sooner or late you are going to want "City scenes", and (2) it sounds corny, but it's not really important. Jeffmatt 15:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * "cities" form a regional scene too, as far as I'm concerned, but maybe that's just me. As far as the hyphens are concerned, by English wikipedia usage, we should use the same name as the region articles. There's actually been an edit war over the name for Trentino-South Tyrol. If the region article is at Emilia-Romagna, then the subarticl eought to be Music of Emilia-Romagna, even if many people don't use the hyphen. It's just a matter of consistency. Circeus 16:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Fine. No problems. Important is to turn out a good product. The edit war over Trentino-South Tyrol is, I bet (and I haven't looked at it) less to do with the hyphen than with the sturggle between Italian speakers, who want Alto Addige (the Upper Etsch river--which makes sense from the point of view of Rome) and some of the German speakers, who still prefer to call it Southern Tyrol, as if that part of Italy were still part of Greater Germany, as recalled in the text of the Deutscland Lied, that defines the Etsch as one of the borders of Germany. The poem starts "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles...." That has caused a few problems in the past, and I doubt if Wikipedia can solve that one.Jeffmatt 21:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I think I saw it mentionned over at the Administrator's noticeboard. It referred to it as "Italian wikipedians trying to enforce italian wordings on teh English wikipedia". Circeus 22:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree that these articles should format region names the same as the main articles on those regions; I also agree that a city can be a region. While it could be regarded as more precise in one way or another to separate cities and "regions", that just seems more pedantic than useful. Tuf-Kat 01:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Possibly. I wasn't trying to be pedantic. I was simply trying to put myself in the place of someone looking for information. What's the quickest way to find something if you're not sure whether the place is a village, town, city, province or region? Admittedly, that won't happen too often. Also, in terms of ease of looking at lists, two short lists are easier to scan than one longer list, even if alphabetical. It might start to be more important if you want to have articles on, say, ten other Italian cities. But... maybe it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other. It's fine the way it is. I can get the last two today: Lombardy and Milan---another region and regional capital with pointers in the lead of both.

Names of regions and cites are bit confusing since many different people have contributed various items--for example, file names for pictures. (The dot map for Florence was named "firenze" and so on. I haven't checked "Turin" / Torino" but there is bound to be inconsistency.

Thank you, Circeus, for cleaning up those items (even "preventive clean-up" ! Love it!) Jeffmatt 05:21, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Don't mind the note in the template history that I restored or changed another hyphen (this one in Trentino-Alto Addige). I did, but I changed it back. I was concered because I couldn't the article that I was sure I had done. Apparently, I skipped it (but will get to it today).

 * Incidentally, the official Wikpedia English name seems to be Trentino-South Tyrol, a translation of the German name used by German speakers in that region. As long as there are adeqate redirects, does it matter?Jeffmatt 11:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

"Done"--kind of
At least the regions and the cities all have something longer than stubs in them. Obviously, they can use expansion. For example, most of them are missing separate sections on folk music, something that I might be able to get to, sooner or later-- but it would better if someone more knowledgeable about that area (that's 95% of the human race) jumped on board. Anyway, I'll turn my attention for a while to the Music Prizes in Italy. That should be a quickie.Jeffmatt 16:05, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Dieter Schnebel

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Citations?
This piece has, it appears, zero citations. Some sources would help.

NicholasNotabene (talk) 08:18, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * There appear to be four sources listed (though what exactly "Grove Music Encyclopedia" is supposed to mean is not clear), but there are no inline citations at all. I have flagged it as such, and will see if I can find something suitable.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 01:26, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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Unidos

Unidos (translation from Sardinian: "United") was a regionalist, Sardinian nationalist, liberal-conservative and separatist political party in Sardinia.

History
The party was launched by Mauro Pili, a long-time member of centre-right Forza Italia and The People of Freedom and former president of Sardinia (1999, 2001–2003), in November 2011. Originally a faction within the PdL, Unidos soon became a party upon Pili's exit from that party in October 2013. As Pili had been elected to the Chamber of Deputies in the 2013 general election, Unidos was represented in Parliament until 2018.

In the 2014 regional election Pili ran for president and won 5.7% of the vote, while the party and a list named after the leader obtained 2.8% and 1.7% of the vote, respectively, both with no seats in the Regional Council.

In the 2019 regional election Pili stood again as a candidate for president, this time at the head of a joint list formed by Unidos, Project Republic of Sardinia (ProgReS) and minor groups. He won 2.3% of the vote, while the list stopped at 2.1%, resulting in no seats in the Regional Council.

After that, the party was no longer active.

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Talk:Jika-tabi

Image?
I wonder if it would be possible to find a good picture for this article. LordAmeth 11:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

A link to an online store would be helpful. - <IP_ADDRESS> 22:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Why? Wikipedia is not an advertising service. --PkerUNO 04:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Because stores contain pictures. Not every appearance of a product is advertisement, and advertisement isn't the end of the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 03:37, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

JOSHRC
Is there really such a thing as the "Japan Occupational Safety and Health Resource Center"? I can only assume that's an English translation of some organization with a completely different name. Whether it's Wikipedia protocol to translate such things (I can't imagine why it would be, they're proper nouns), surely, surely the acronym would be inappropriate given that it's the acronym of an imagined translated version of the actual name of the organization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 03:37, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

 * It's a real thing.
 * Full name in Japanese: 全国労働安全衛生センター連絡会議 (Zenkoku Rōdō Anzen Eisei Sentā Renraku Kaigi, literally "Country-wide Labor Safety [&] Health Liaison Board")
 * Short name in Japanese: 全国安全センター (Zenkoku Anzen Sentā, literally "Country-wide Safety Center")
 * URL: https://joshrc.net/ (in Japanese)
 * You'll note that the website itself has "JOSHRC" right at the top of the page.
 * Here's an online dictionary that glosses the English phrase "Japan Occupational Safety and Health Resource Center" with the Japanese 全国労働安全衛生センター連絡会議 (full) and 全国安全センター (short).
 * https://ja.ichacha.net/english/japan%20occupational%20safety%20and%20health%20resource%20center.html
 * ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 17:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Socks and cleaning
Are they worn over the bare foot or do people use socks (tabi) to wear them? How are they cleaned? Are they put in the washer like a sock or does one pass a damp cloth like an athletic shoe? --Error (talk) 19:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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Samuel Hammond

Samuel Hammond (September 21, 1757 – September 11, 1842) was a lieutenant colonel during the American Revolutionary War, governor and leader in the Louisiana and Missouri Territories, and United States Representative from Georgia in the 8th United States Congress.

Early life
He was born in Farnham Parish in the Virginia Colony, to Elizabeth Hammond Steele and Charles Hammond; his parents were second cousins. Charles Hammond worked for the Virginia House of Delegates as a secretary. Like his son and three additional sons, Charles served during the Revolutionary War. Samuel attended the common schools.

Virginia
Hammond served as a volunteer under Governor Dunmore against Native Americans and "distinguished himself" at the Battle of Kanawha, now more commonly known as the Battle of Point Pleasant. The battle took place on October 10, 1774.

In July 1776, Hammond fought against the Cherokee under Colonel Andrew Williamson.

During the American Revolutionary War, he served in the Continental Army. In December 1776, led a company of minutemen he raised in the Battle of Great Bridge in an area since named Great Bridge, Virginia. He served several years in Pennsylvania and New Jersey with his troops from Virginia.

Carolinas
In 1779 Charles Hammond moved to South Carolina. Samuel moved with his family and served the Revolutionary War in his new home state. He was promoted to Assistant Quartermaster at the siege of Savannah. He served as member of the "council of capitulation" at Charleston and was made lieutenant colonel. He commanded troops in battle at Augusta, Blackstock's Farm, Cowpens, Eutaw Springs, Guilford Courthouse, Hanging Rock, and Kings Mountain. Shortly after the war he settled in Savannah, Georgia.

Georgia
He served during the conflict with the Creek or Muscogee peoples in the latter 1780s and early 1790s, commanding a corps of Georgia Volunteers in 1793.

Hammond was Surveyor General of Georgia in 1796. He was a member of the Georgia House of Representatives 1796-1798 and a member of the Georgia Senate 1799 and 1800. He was elected as a Republican to the Eighth Congress and served from March 4, 1803, until February 2, 1805.

Louisiana and Missouri Territories
February 2, 1805 he became Colonel Commandant of the St. Louis District of the Louisiana Territory where he served from 1805 to 1824. He was made the first president (governor) of the Missouri Territorial Council in 1813. He was a receiver of public moneys in Missouri and president of the Bank of St. Louis. He mainly financed his lifestyle in Missouri by selling the people he enslaved. In less than seven years, Hammond sold at least seven enslaved individuals, including one family, where he sold the mother and father to different enslavers.

South Carolina
Hammond moved to South Carolina in 1824 and became a member of the South Carolina House of Representatives. He then served as Surveyor General of South Carolina in 1825 and Secretary of State of South Carolina in 1831–1835.

Marriage and children
Hammond married widow Rebecca Rae in 1783 and they settled in Savannah, Georgia. Rebecca's deceased husband was Colonel John Rae of Augusta, Georgia.

Rebecca died in 1798. Then, Hammond moved to Rae's Hall Plantation. He married a second time to Eliza Amelia O'Keefe on May 5, 1802.

He had eight children.

Freemason
Samuel Hammond was also a Freemason and member of Solomon's Lodge No. 1, F. & A. M. at Savannah, Georgia. This lodge was established by the renowned Freemason and founder of the Georgia colony, James Edward Oglethorpe, on February 21, 1734, and is now the "Oldest Continuously Operating English Constituted Lodge of Freemasons in the Western Hemisphere".

Death
He retired from public life and died in 1842 at his home, "Varello Farm," at Beech Island, South Carolina, which is on the South Carolina side of the Savannah River, near Augusta, Georgia.

He is now buried near the Hammond Cemetery at the Charles Hammond House, North Augusta, South Carolina. A memorial commemorates the heroic actions of Colonel Samuel Hammond, Colonel LeRoy Hammond, Jr., and Colonel LeRoy Hammond, Sr.

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1115 in Norway

Events in the year 1115 in Norway.

Incumbents

 * Monarchs – Eystein I Magnusson, Sigurd the Crusader, Olaf Magnusson (co-rulers)

Deaths

 * 22 December – Olaf Magnusson of Norway, King (born c. 1099).

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Arezumandeh

Arezumandeh (, also Romanized as Ārezūmandeh; also known as Arzmandeh, Ārezūmand, and Arzmandi) is a village in Rivand Rural District, in the Central District of Nishapur County, Razavi Khorasan Province, Iran. At the 2006 census, its population was 81, in 21 families.

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Talk:Nustar Resort and Casino

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Prolog/Glossary

This is a glossary of common Prolog terms.

 * Argument
 * Arguments are terms that appear in a compound term. E.g. A1 and a2 are the first and the second argument of the term.

 * Arity
 * The number of arguments that a predicate takes. E.g.  has arity 2. In documentation, the arity of a predicate is written as predicate/arity. E.g..

 * Backtracking
 * If a sub-goal fails, the built-in Prolog search mechanism will go back to the parent-goal. Any variables that were instantiated in the sub-goal will be un-instantiated. Prolog will then search for a new way of satisfying the sub-goal. This process is called backtracking.

 * Clause
 * A single clause of a relation, usually defined as Head :- Body, but see also fact.

Also called structure. It consists of a name followed by N arguments, each of which are terms. N is called the arity of the term.
 * Compound term
 * Fact
 * A clause with no body, that is a head on its own.

 * Functor
 * Combination of name and arity of a compound term. The term  is said to be a term belonging to the functor foo/3 . foo/0 is used to refer to the atom foo.

 * Goal
 * Question stated to the Prolog engine. A goal is either an atom or a compound term. A goal succeeds, in which case the variables in the compound terms have a binding or fails if Prolog fails to prove the goal.

 * Ground Term
 * A Term which has no logic variables in it.

 * Predicate
 * A set of clauses or a relation.

 * Query
 * See goal.

 * Relation
 * Synonym for Predicate.

 * Recursion/Recursive
 * Definition missing

 * Rule
 * See clause.

 * Term
 * Every object in Prolog is a term, that includes variables, compounds, numbers, source code.

 * Unification
 * Prolog process to make two terms equal by assigning variables in one term to values at the corresponding location of the other term. E.g.,

Unlike assignment, which does not exist in Prolog, unification is not directed.
 * Singleton Variable
 * If a variable is named only once in a clause, usually it is replace with _.

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User:Tmosuro/Evaluate an Article

Evaluate an article
This is where you will complete your article evaluation. Please use the template below to evaluate your selected article.

 * Name of article: Design studies
 * Briefly describe why you have chosen this article to evaluate: Design isn't an exact science so it is interesting to see the multiple sources that have created modern design.

Lead

 * Guiding questions

 * Does the Lead include an introductory sentence that concisely and clearly describes the article's topic? Yes
 * Does the Lead include a brief description of the article's major sections? No
 * Does the Lead include information that is not present in the article? No
 * Is the Lead concise or is it overly detailed? I think it's concise.

Content

 * Guiding questions

 * Is the article's content relevant to the topic? yes
 * Is the content up-to-date? yes
 * Is there content that is missing or content that does not belong? The scope of the article is very broad.

Tone and Balance

 * Guiding questions

 * Is the article neutral? It tries to be but overall it is not.
 * Are there any claims that appear heavily biased toward a particular position? It is mentioned in the talk page that the author is bias
 * Are there viewpoints that are overrepresented, or underrepresented? Overrepresented
 * Does the article attempt to persuade the reader in favor of one position or away from another? I don't think so.

Sources and References

 * Guiding questions

 * Are all facts in the article backed up by a reliable secondary source of information? I think so.
 * Are the sources thorough - i.e. Do they reflect the available literature on the topic? Yes, some of the links i clicked on took me to books about the topic.
 * Are the sources current? The sources are current.
 * Check a few links. Do they work? The links that exist seem to work but some links are missing or dead.

Organization

 * Guiding questions

 * Is the article well-written - i.e. Is it concise, clear, and easy to read? Yes
 * Does the article have any grammatical or spelling errors? Not that i have seen so far.
 * Is the article well-organized - i.e. broken down into sections that reflect the major points of the topic? It is organized but i personally don't like seeing blocks of text, it could use more breaks.

Images and Media

 * Guiding questions

 * Does the article include images that enhance understanding of the topic? The image doesn't really add much to the topic and there's only one. This is a place to be improved upon.
 * Are images well-captioned? Yes
 * Do all images adhere to Wikipedia's copyright regulations? Yes
 * Are the images laid out in a visually appealing way? Yes

Checking the talk page

 * Guiding questions

 * What kinds of conversations, if any, are going on behind the scenes about how to represent this topic? In the talk page it has been mentioned that the writing is bias.
 * How is the article rated? Is it a part of any WikiProjects? C-class, mid-importance.
 * How does the way Wikipedia discusses this topic differ from the way we've talked about it in class?

Overall impressions

 * Guiding questions

 * What is the article's overall status? i think it need s work.
 * What are the article's strengths? It has a lot of information that is formatted very well.
 * How can the article be improved? There is a list of types of design that the author began but didn't completely define. I also feel that the writing is a bit bias at times.
 * How would you assess the article's completeness - i.e. Is the article well-developed? Is it underdeveloped or poorly developed? Underdeveloped

Overall evaluation
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pasticceria

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) An Italian cake shop or confectioner's.

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) cakes and pastries
 * 2) cake shop, confectioner's (shop)
 * 3) confectionery

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/memoryband.org

Links

 * memoryband.org resolves to [//<IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>]
 * Link is not on the blacklist.
 * Link is not on the domainredlist.
 * Link is not on the Monitorlist.
 * None of the mentioned users is on the blacklist.
 * Link is not on the whitelist.
 * Link is not on the monitor list.
 * Link is globally blacklisted by \bmemoryband\.org\b
 * Link is not on the monitor list.
 * Link is globally blacklisted by \bmemoryband\.org\b

Additions

 * Displayed all 11 additions.


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Talk:C++/Variables and User Input

Feel free to add anything that you'd like :) I'm definately not even close to an expert at C++, so if you see me hacking my way through something, please fix it and make it better! Thanks,

Giawa

int main
int main (int argc, char * const argv[])

None of this is explained. Is it needed? My code works fine without it. --<IP_ADDRESS> 17:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

int main (int argc, char * const argv[]) explained
Here's an explanation as to where argc and argv come from.

Back when computer programming was young, computers ran all programs in a terminal (similar to MS-DOS). Is MS-DOS you have the ability to append commands when executing a file. This was an easy way to provide input to the program. So, for example:

C:> myProgram.exe input.txt output.txt

That is me running myProgram.exe in terminal, with two other commands appended to the end. In this case I provided an input and an output for the program to work with. Programmers needed a way to access these extra commands that users appended to the program, so that is where argc and argv come from. The integer argc stores the number of commands that are appended, and the array of character pointers will point to the character arrays, which store the actual data (in this case one character array will store "input.txt" and the other will store "output.txt").

Some fussy compilers will require that argc and argv exist, but most will accept main as well.

(Giawa 10:58, 15 December 2007 (UTC))

int value
I have a question about the maximum value of an int. How can you calculate a number larger than<PHONE_NUMBER>? In Lesson 6 for example you explain how to calculate factorials. 17! returns a negative value and 13! is already too high.

Tappie 20:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you are a french friendly reader I invite you to learn from the french version I maintain. That the teacher dont said is that numbers in computers are array of byte and bytes are array of bit witch can take "0" or "1" value. In conventional computers bytes are array of 8 bit (256 values from 0 to 255 then 2^8). Ints are array of 4 bytes so 32 bits then 2^32 values from 0 to 2^32-1 for unsigned and from -(2^32)/2-1 to +(2^32)/2 for signed.
 * unsigned or signed mode is choosed by programmer where computer only understand BITS. that's why you get negative numbers on 17! in fact you are in size overflow !

Compilers
At this point when you start introducing code hopefully people will want to code along with you and test out their own code. It might be a good idea to include some simple instructions on how to use a compiler (perhaps gcc) or maybe link to a page where this info can be found.

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Habana del Este

Habana del Este (Spanish for "East Havana"), also spelled La Habana del Este, is one of the 15 municipalities or boroughs (municipios in Spanish) forming the city of Havana, Cuba.

Geography
As its name indicates it is on the eastern side of the city, and includes the overspill towns of Camilo Cienfuegos and Alamar as well as the beach towns of Boca Ciega, Tarará, Santa María del Mar and Guanabo.

Beaches
The chain of beaches called the Eastern Beaches (Playas del Este) extend for 15 miles along the north coast of Havana City province. The beaches are (named from West to East): Tarará; El Mégano; Bacuranao (has a bay shape, thick sand and a small Spanish fortress on its western side); Santa María del Mar; Boca Ciega; Guanabo; La Veneciana and Brisas del Mar. The Eastern Beaches are a popular tourist spot with excellent natural conditions, though tourist facilities are scarce and have yet to be expanded.

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Talk:Molly Joyce

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USS LST-471

USS LST-471 was a United States Navy LST-1-class tank landing ship used in the Asiatic-Pacific Theater during World War II. As with many of her class, the ship was never named. Instead, she was referred to by her hull designation.

Construction
LST-471 was laid down on 29 October 1942, under Maritime Commission (MARCOM) contract, MC hull 991, by Kaiser Shipyards, Vancouver, Washington; launched 3 December 1942; and commissioned on 11 March 1943.

Service history
During World War II, LST-471 was assigned to the Asiatic-Pacific theater and participated in the following operations: the Lae occupation in September 1943; the Leyte operation in October and November 1944; the Lingayen Gulf landings in January 1945; the Mindanao Island landings in March 1945; and the Balikpapan operation in June and July 1945.

Following World War II, LST-471 returned to the United States and was decommissioned on 26 February 1946, and struck from the Navy list on 12 April, that same year. On 21 January 1948, the tank landing ship was sold to Hughes Bros., Inc., New York City, for scrap. She was beached during a storm while under tow off Rodanthe, North Carolina.

The wreck is located at 35.58641°N, -75.45934°W

Honors and awards
LST-471 earned five battle stars for her World War II service.

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