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= Undeletion =

LaTeX/Internationalisation
"Internationalisation" is the British spelling for "internationalization". Redirects are cheap, so not sure how this classifies as broken or unnecessary when it can be potentially useful. --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 09:35, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

 * Given you deleted this, any thoughts? SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 09:46, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * We don't have redirects, as a rule, that are simply to support different spellings. But I don't really care about this one - so if they want it back, they can have it. MarcGarver (discuss • contribs) 09:08, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 01:15, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

City Of Heroes
A book that was deleted when strategy guides were not allowed. See discussion - User:Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 123 17:13, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This book was deleted about 16 years ago and only one page had a significant amount of content. It could all be undeleted but would probably be better re-made from scratch.--Xania [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] talk 01:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Undeleted it with many first-level subpages. Yet City Of Heroes/Archetypes, City Of Heroes/Powers, City Of Heroes/General Help, City Of Heroes/Enhancements, City Of Heroes/Binds and City Of Heroes/Badges have even more subpages to be undeleted.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 22:50, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Undeleted many subpages of the above subpages, less obviously useless versions. Yet any administrators are hereby advised to check Special:Undelete for more to be undeleted.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 21:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Remaking this content from scratch might be difficult - the game shut down in 2012. There's a small community of users running private servers based on leaked source code (!), but far fewer than when the game was active. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 07:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

How to Survive in Minecraft
A book that was deleted back when strategy guided for video games were not allowed. You can see the discussion here. - 🇺🇦 Слава🇺🇦Україні 🇺🇦 Героям🇺🇦Слава🇺🇦 (talk)🇺🇦 17:15, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * --Xania [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] talk 01:38, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Mass undeletion of books that were deleted when strategy guides were not allowed.
Couldn't we just mass undelete these books? Garfieldcat1978 (discuss • contribs) 18:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC) Letting bot archive as needed.
 * Listing which works would be much better.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 22:51, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Open Scholarship Press Curated Volumes
This book was recently deleted under the meaningful content policy guidelines, specifically for "Abandoned material with intent and no development after 7 days". I would like to clarify that while development on this Wikibook (and the related Open Scholarship Press books) had been on pause since February, none of the work had been abandoned. Unfortunately, I had not been on Wikibooks to see whether the content had been flagged for deletion until after the content had already been deleted. The deleted book is an integral piece of a wider multi-book project. As such, I would like to request that the book be undeleted so that development may continue. --LodestarChariot2 (discuss • contribs) 00:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Requesting for undeletion of the page "Jumarkese"
Hi, I just want to ask the administrators to restore my deleted page, "Jumarkese". I am begging you, I hope you will forgive me. Actually, I just noticed today that you deleted my page. I don't know your reasons why you did that. But I hope you can grant my request to restore my deleted page "Jumarkese" as soon as possible. Thank you. Jumark27 (discuss • contribs) 16:38, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

 * Hi @Jumark27. You can see the reasoning under the corresponding section below. It consisted of original research, which is out of scope at Wikibooks, and this type of decision is precedented. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by original research? Jumark27 (discuss • contribs) 06:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * See Original research. Neither Wikibooks nor Wikipedia allow original research.--Xania [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] talk 07:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

= Deletion =

Developing A Universal Religion
Transwiki to Wikisource. This book by User:David Hockey survived VfD in 2005 (Requests for deletion/Developing A Universal Religion) but it should not have. Another VfD is from 2006: Requests for deletion/Purpose, for what was part 3 of the book. The book was originally uploaded as four separate parts, located at Thinking And Moral Problems, Religions And Their Source, Purpose, and Developing A Universal Religion.

The book contains multiple inaccurate claims and its title makes it unsuitable for Wikibooks. Material in Wikibooks should strive to be factually accurate and neutral, which this book cannot be. Since this book by David Hockey was previously published, and there is a pdf to check the text against (File:Developing a Universal Religion Parts 1-2-3 & 4.pdf), it can be hosted on Wikisource.

The book presents a philosophy of the purpose of life and ethics, not a religion. The book does not involve God or gods except that it portrays evolution and the life on the Earth as a quasi-god for being alleged potentially omnipotent and by its occasional capitalization of "life" as "Life". It is not true that any philosophy of purpose of life is a religion and the book does nothing to distinguish itself from philosophy as a religion.

The book's key tenet is that we should adopt as a surrogate purpose of life to "support life’s continual evolution and focus upon helping it to achieve an omnipotent ability". There is nothing factually neutral about this idea; it is one person's philosophical position. And it is not just a minor part of the book that can be edited away; it comes in part 3 and is built upon in part 4. This follows from Developing A Universal Religion/Looking For A Purpose/What Purpose Can We Use?: "Given that there is no detectable purpose pre-designed into life or the universe, then, if we must have one, we must adopt a surrogate. To my mind, the only viable option is to support life’s continual evolution and focus upon helping it to achieve an omnipotent ability. Such a purpose is universal and rational; it is a purpose that will last as long as life itself lasts. It accommodates the whole of life, and shows that we care about more than just our own well-being. It declares that we value life for its own sake and think little about the death that must follow, taking it simply as the price to be paid for living."

The book contains multiple dubious claims about life's omnipotent potential. There is nothing factual about it: not only can life not become omnipotent but it cannot become nearly omnipotent either. To begin with, given our current knowledge, there is no chance life could ever inhabit planet Pluto and the book does not support this idea in any way; and there is no way life can spread from the Earth to the Earth's nearest star given our knowledge. One can find multiple such claims and I will quote just one: "This omnipotent  consequence  of  evolution  is  just  that—a consequence." It is trivial to come up with capabilities that life including humankind may never achieve; one needs just a little bit of imagination. The argument that our ancestors could not have imagined our present capabilities has very little force to support the idea of future near omnipotence. It is obvious but you can read more at [https://www.quora.com/Is-evolution-omnipotent? Quora: Is evolution omnipotent?].

The book examines some of the ethical consequences of its proposed ultimate purpose, e.g. in Developing A Universal Religion/Determining Moral Behaviours/Killing. Its examination in unconvincing. For instance, it says "The rationale for stating that it would be wrong to kill an individual is easy to state: any individual’s actions may contribute to the objective of supporting Life’s continued evolution, thus each life is valuable and should be preserved", but it is not obvious that each and every human including those severely disabled can contribute to Life's continuing evolution, so it does not follow that each human life should be preserved. Those following the stated purpose could decide to exterminate a technologically weak nation and take its resources and there is nothing obvious in the stated purpose to prevent them from doing so; the author does not seem to realize that.

As for the previous VfD:
 * As for the book being "well written": It may be fairly well written from a stylistic perspective, having been created by a single author outside of Wikibooks and published, but it is not well and plausibly reasoned as shown above.
 * As for "Looks like a real book to me": It surely is a real book, which alone does not make it includable in Wikibooks.
 * As for "There are formal footnotes and references to other sources that have at least some academic credibility." Footnotes and references do not save the book from being non-factual and non-neutral, and the whole of the text is nowhere close to being referenced using Wikipedia's referencing standard. The few references scattered throughout the book do not save the book content from criticism.
 * As for "This is a philosophy book, and that can be tricky to work with, I know.": Most philosophical books ever published do not fit Wikibooks since they are not neutral and their factual accuracy can be disputed. Philosophical surveys can be made to fit, though, mostly in the form of "some authors argue that X, other authors argue that Y".

The stated problems with the book cannot be addressed by collaborative editing, starting with the observation that it is not about religion and that it depends on a posited purpose that is not neutral. It should not stay in Wikibooks. Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 07:55, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

 * Make it rain wikisource! Wikisource tastes good in pasta. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 22:06, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I will move it and its subpages via s:Special:Import only one at a time. Please be patient unless someone has any better way.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 04:30, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Please see s:Wikisource:Administrators'_noticeboard with an objection that the book might not be acceptable there. I am not exporting yet.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 19:47, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, but if the PDF is under a compatible licence, which I presume it should be if the import was done correctly, consider moving the original PDF to Wikimedia Commons? Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 01:39, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Plain text PDFs are generally out of scope on Commons unless they are source documents, which this is not. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 00:51, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * per above. Are we still waiting on another Wikiproject to take it? It's persisted here for several months now. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Since Wikisource does not want the book due to being self-published (which it does seem to be), I am happy to keep it in Wikibooks. However, the book should probably start with a heavy disclaimer to the effect that the book contains original research, may be inaccurate or may reflect the point of view of a particular philosopher not accepted by mainstream philosophy. As incorrect as it seems to be, the book seems interesting enough. The book could be assigned in a philosophy course: "Read Developing A Universal Religion from Wikibooks a identify defects in its arguments"; or the like; a professional educator would probably be able to create a better formulation for an assignment, including perhaps "determine the kind of -isms the book falls under" or "identify authors developing similar themes" (which is more challenging since one needs to know the literature). The book is not much worse than a lot of bad material that passes as "philosophy" is some countries. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 10:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

This seems to be very much outside the scope of Wikibooks per "Wikibooks is an instructional resource". Also seems to contain a lot of original research. If its to be transwiki-ed, then Wikiversity seems a better project for it. Thenub314 (talk) 18:24, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Waiting for v:Wikiversity:Import to reply.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 21:34, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, I'm a Wikibooks reviewer and Wikiversity curator. Technically I can handle this request but I decided not to do that for now (v:special:diff/2548035). As I pointed out at v:WV:I, I'm not sure if others have agreed with that suggestion. This is just a curator decision, so other custodians or curators may override my decision, but once there is clear consensus about moving to Wikiversity, then that will make things easier. I hope this can help you. MathXplore (discuss • contribs) 05:45, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

The Computer Revolution/Computers and Environment/Nanotechnology
Consists of excerpts from third parties. Those from New Scientist, do not appear to be under a compatible licence.
 * I'm not sure it's enough of a violation for deletion? Based on a copyvio comparison, the text seems mostly paraphrased. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:44, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Dynamical Systems
This seems to be abandoned book, the only content is largly vacuous. I don't believe it is likely to be extended or worked on because it is both a technical topic, and represents to original author's goals for such a book (graduate level vs undergraduate). Thenub314 (talk) 20:46, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

 * It does seem abandoned; the single existing page hasn't been updated since 2018 and the main book page hasn't been updated since 2019. Unless someone quickly decides to pick up on it, I can't really see it staying here at Wikibooks :/ —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 13:35, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

 * Hello there,
 * currently I'm working over at the German page, because I have begun to work with a new, more intuitive terminology. My current plan is to first finish the German version and then possibly to translate it. To finish the German version will take at least until the end of this year. Until then, you shouldn't expect any progress. Afterwards, I may feel inclined to pick up the project, depending on my human rights situation. --Mathmensch (discuss • contribs) 09:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Files from Illustrated Guide to the world of Spira (FFX and FFX-2)
Used for decorative, not educational, purposes: File:Float 13.jpg, File:Grabbed Frame 15.jpg, File:Gandof.jpg, File:Ohalland.jpg, File:Braskascan1.jpg, File:Tidus FFX.png (WB:NFCC#8). — Ирука13 13:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, I think I can agree on the removal of these 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 12:24, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Chess/Fedida Gambit
Created (and added to related pages) by Special:Contributions/Samuel Fedida as original research with no secondary sourcing, not attested in databases. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 17:02, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

 * per above —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Radium SmartChain
including the closely related books:
 * XRADON Supernet
 * Radium Core

These books are a borderline advertisement for a cryptocurrency project. Moreover, the project has changed substantially since the books were written in 2016-2017 - it's now called "Validity", and most, if not all, of the information in these books is no longer accurate. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 06:39, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure it's blatant enough to be considered advertising? Since it technically is a how-to? But, if it is out of date, that could warrant deletion. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hence "borderline". Some of the subpages like Radium Core/Use Cases/Proof of Author have more of a promotional air to them. But yes, the instructional content is all badly out of date; there are edits as far back as 2019 from users trying to mark the books as being outdated, and it's only gotten worse since then. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 05:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * If it wasn't outdated, I would vote keep, but... ForTheGrammar (discuss • contribs) 01:32, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

ZCash mining GPU Comparison
Multiple issues:

First: This is barely even a book. It's mostly a collection of links and statistics.

Second: The content of the book is about a cryptocurrency topic which was rapidly changing when it was written between 2016 and 2018, and which is now considered obsolete, per https://www.zcashcommunity.com/mining/: "Can I mine Zcash with my CPU or GPU? No. Zcash used to be minable with GPU, but since special hardware (ASIC) was made mining with CPU and GPU is no longer profitable."

The content of the book has been essentially untouched since 2018; given the obsolescence of the technology as mentioned above, it seems unlikely to ever be improved.

Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 06:16, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

 * I have no issues with deleting this book. It doesn't seem like a particularly informative/educational work, and it seems unlikely to be improved. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Would be better served as a blog post than a whole Wikibook. ForTheGrammar (discuss • contribs) 00:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Various pages in Basics of fine-art photography
The following pages in Basics of fine-art photography seem out of scope because they consist entirely of personal promotion/advertisement for the author's photography: —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 04:13, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Basics of fine-art photography/Egypt and Egyptians II
 * Basics of fine-art photography/Lights of Moscow
 * Basics of fine-art photography/Ethiopia through the eyes of traveler
 * Basics of fine-art photography/On the roads of India
 * Basics of fine-art photography/14 days in Mongolia
 * Basics of fine-art photography/Egypt and Egyptians III
 * Basics of fine-art photography/Hitchhiking across Sudan
 * Basics of fine-art photography/January in Japan
 * Basics of fine-art photography/Uganda: tribes and civilization
 * Basics of fine-art photography/Tribes of Kenya
 * Basics of fine-art photography/Afghanistan, 2008

 * Frankly, the entire book appears to be a vehicle for the author to promote his own photography. The few sentences of instructional content on pages like Basics of fine-art photography/Creating works in macro photography are practically useless; that one amounts to "to take macro photos, set your camera to macro mode and hold it close to the subject, or read another book for more information". Other pages like Basics of fine-art photography/Interior photography in hobo tours or Basics of fine-art photography/Taking pictures of homeless people provide essentially no information on photography technique at all, and seem to mostly be intended as jumping-off points to showcase more of the author's photos. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 19:40, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

History of Grand-Popo
Suited for enWP not WB, appears to be a simple import with no likely development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

HSC Biology
—Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Almost no meaningful content
 * Abandoned since 2005, unlikely to be developed
 * Scope is not well-developed, hard to imagine other editors being able to contribute

Piano Solo Music: An Encyclopedia
This book is essentially a compilation of lists and links—I don't think it's actually in-scope here as a book. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

School Projects
Not actually a book—just a list of links to other books, which is not in scope. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

 * Delete as per nom. --YuriNikolai (discuss • contribs) 02:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 07:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Selected Essays
Seems completely out of WB scope; it's just a collection of unrelated personal essays. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:52, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

 * Agreed, personal essays and not ones that can easily be used, at that. I can do stuff !  (talk) 12:52, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Remembering the Templars
Seems to be pretty much an encyclopedic article about the Knights Templar, which makes it out of scope; enormous amount of links to enWP and may even just be an import. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * per nom. --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 23:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Shia Islam/Principles of religion
Based on the language, this page seems to be translated, perhaps by machine? I can't see evidence of "principles of religion" as a term existing in English, and I think it's a direct translation of a different language. I'm concerned due to previous copyright issues in this work involving machine translating other copyrighted sources without attribution. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Az1568. --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 23:54, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Half-Life Computation
Doesn't seem in-scope as a book—just seems like a single page on how to do a specific calculation. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:06, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Mario 64 chromebooks control
Just says that the start button is P. The Master of Hedgehogs (discuss • contribs) 15:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

 * ✅ Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

God and Religious Toleration
This book was previously nominated for deletion in 2011, but kept largely because of its theoretical potential for improvement. It's now over a decade later, and no real improvement has been made. The book has the following issues: I've gone through the book to try to improve it somewhat, but it largely feels like a disorganized dumping ground for a variety of abstract thoughts, many of which are heavily biased. At this point, given the amount of time it has had for improvement and the lack thereof, I don't think it has a place at Wikibooks. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * A lack of clearly defined educational/instructional scope, structure, or aims overall
 * A lack of structure in each existing chapter
 * Significant NPOV and lack-of-evidence/citations

 * This book is very important in this day and age. Tolerance between religions is important for world peace. Without tolerance, chaos breaks out in the world. We should promote tolerance between religions. If the good guys keep quiet, the bad guys win. Is that what you want? A better way is to simply add a chapter of yours to the book and contribute your suggestions to world peace and the strengthening of love in the world. @Kittycataclysm Nobody60 (discuss • contribs) 08:46, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

 * Support deleting as per issues pointed out in nom. @Nobody60, there are kilometers between deleting a bad, biased book and supporting religious intolerance or whatever it is you're accusing the nom of doing. Wikibooks is a project with a definite, reachable and concrete goal, which this book doesn't meet, never met and probably would never meet. --YuriNikolai (discuss • contribs) 02:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

 * per nom. --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 07:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Game guides
Seems to be a really poorly made Minecraft guide. However, the title "game guides" in general can mislead many reader and prevent them from finding actual guides. Nothing that is in this can be merged into the existing, better Minecraft guides (they already include everything it says). Propose deleting or, preferrably, redirecting it to Shelf:Strategy guides. --YuriNikolai (discuss • contribs) 02:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

 * ✅ Met the criteria for speedy deletion (almost no content, abandoned). Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Nazi Germany's Defeat on the Eastern Front, 1941-1945
Abandoned, not much content aside from that on the main page, instructional aims unclear. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:16, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * No real content and perhaps a book with a wider scope would have more success. --Xania [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] talk 03:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

History of Oregon
Abandoned, little meaningful content. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:27, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * --Xania [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] talk 03:34, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅. SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 12:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

History of Kosovo
Abandoned, very little meaningful content, instructional aims unclear. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * --Xania [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] talk 03:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅. SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 12:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Kashubian Dictionary
Out of scope here; material should be hosted at Wiktionary (I've suggested it there). —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

 * Any content in this dictionary should be already be at wiktionary:Wiktionary:Requested entries (Kashubian)/Kashubian Dictionary, where we will be able to slowly make entries for these. Vininn126 (discuss • contribs) 21:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Biblioþeke
Out of scope; seems to be an incomplete translation of the bible into a conlang. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 00:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikis for Retail Store Managers
Abandoned, unclear scope, little content, unclear path for development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

eBay
Abandoned, almost no content or developmemt. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

 * - table of contents (without any content) created as a user's only contribution nineteen years ago. Probably safe to assume they aren't going to come back to finish writing it now. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 05:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Human Geography
Abandoned for two decades without any development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Neuro Linguistic Programming
Abandoned, very little meaningful content, unclear path for development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Scrapebook Linguistics
Abandoned, little to no meaningful content, unclear scope or potential for development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 03:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

How to Be a Good Camp Counselor
Book is un/under-developed and abandoned, and the scope/potential for development is somewhat unclear to me. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 03:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Annotated Republic of China Regulations/Regulations for Road Traffic Signs, Markings, and Signals/1989/Manual for Obtention of Driving licence: Signals and Lights
Abandoned with non-English. Not belonging under Annotated Republic of China Regulations/Regulations for Road Traffic Signs, Markings, and Signals/1989, that Taiwanese administrative regulation since 1989 would not contain such a manual.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 16:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] Delete per above —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Australian Property Law
Has only one page (introduction) with little content. It has been abandoned now for almost 20 years with no development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Chinese Checkers
Extremely minimal content and abandoned for almost 20 years. Was previously nominated for deletion in 2006 but kept on the grounds that it could be expanded—clearly this has not happened. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Niw Englisch
Fiction / original research - a conlang being (very slowly) created by the author of the book.

The following books are closely related to that project and should be deleted as well: as well as Biblioþeke, which has already been nominated for deletion.
 * NiwEnglisc
 * Þat englisce Alphabet
 * Lernung þer Stafræwe
 * Þe ettbære Garden
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] Delete all per the above. I can find no evidence of the conlang outside Wikibooks and this sole author. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 13:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Switching from Mac OS X to Windows 7
Abandoned how-to book on a topic which is no longer technologically relevant (Windows 7 support ended in 2020), and which thus has no real potential for development.
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px|link=|alt=]] Delete Abandoned, little content, no further potential per  the above. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 13:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Windows 8
Another abandoned, underdeveloped book on an obsolete operating system. Unlikely to be developed further. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 18:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Mac OS X Leopard
Yet another abandoned, underdeveloped book on an obsolete operating system. (Mac OS X Leopard was released in 2007, and has been unsupported since 2011.) If there were more content in this book, it could possibly be refactored into a version-independent book about macOS, but there's effectively nothing here. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 18:42, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

title: Wikibooks:Requests for deletion


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Talk:August Borms

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¿Y cuál era el delito de este bueno hombre...? Porque fusilarlo, lo fusilaron, pero no se sabe muy bien porqué. — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 03:23, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Collaborationism with an invading enemy, as it clearly states in the article. If you mean "what makes that a crime" that's really a bit beyond the remit of this article. Keresaspa (talk) 16:53, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

source: wikimedia

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: Talk:August Borms


text:
Wikipedia talk:Wiki Ed/Memorial University of Newfoundland/Animal Behaviour (Fall)

Hi, looking forward to using wikipedia Laurendpeters (talk) 01:27, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm also excited to learn new things about Wikipedia --GillSams (talk) 02:14, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


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User:Poker rules/sandbox

HISTORY
This game originated in 2001 at the house on Lotus in Ocean Beach, CA. It has been moved to many different locations around San Diego as Mr. Tinkov moved from house to house trying to find his dream home. Today the game occurs on Thursday nights at the house on Georgia St. in Hillcrest.

PARTICIPANTS

 * Regulars
 * Felix
 * Noel
 * Doug
 * Matt
 * Nate-Dog
 * BJ
 * Tim

 * Extras
 * Ali

HOUSE RULES
DON'T BE LATE - You will be banned if you are late!

Dealing order

Drinks & Snacks

GAMES

 * Black Jack
 * How to play Black Jack
 * Additional House Rules
 * Rule 1
 * Rule 2

 * Bourré (Booray or Boo-ray)
 * How to play Bourré
 * Additional House Rules
 * Rule 1
 * Rule 2

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Historiography of the Paris Commune

In the history of labor, socialism, and revolutions, the historiography of the Paris Commune connects its 1871 events with the revolutions of 1848 and 1917. Historical interpretation of the Commune influenced subsequent revolutionary ideology and sociopolitical events. As of the late 20th century, there were two main historiographical schools of thought: the political interpretation, that the Commune was a patriotic eruption of fury in response to circumstantial hardship following the Siege of Paris; and the social interpretation, that the Commune was the result of macro socioeconomic forces boiling over, e.g., that it was a war of class struggle. Histories in the latter interpretation have used the Commune's events to make ideological points on behalf of their authors, either that the Commune was an illegitimate, criminal aggression, or that the Commune was the consummation of revolutionary momentum. Similarly, historians within both the political and social interpretations have disagreed as to whether the Commune was inevitable or accidental (though there is agreement that the uprising was unplanned), a harbinger of the future or a sunset for revolutionary zeal.

Shortly after the brutal end of the Commune, which killed, imprisoned, or exiled 100,000 Parisians, the Commune quickly became subject to polarizing legend. Conservative contemporaries of the Commune attributed the insurrection to revolutionary conspiracy by the First International and its affiliates. Partly in response, revolutionary socialists did not acknowledge organizations as contributing to the Commune. Their sense of the revolution's legitimacy rested in its popular spontaneity, as compared to the deliberate planning of a coup. Scholarship of the Commune began with Georges Bourgin's Histoire de la Commune just prior to World War I, and thus became viewed through the lens of 1917. It received treatments from preeminent scholars including C.L.R. James and Henri Lefebvre, and was the subject of most of Jacques Rougerie's career. Communist historiography fell out of favor by the end of the 20th century. Where there had previously been debate over whether the Commune was a revolutionary socialist movement or a movement of artisans, Rougerie's La Commune: 1871 (1988) attributed the Commune to an amalgam of both. Roger Gould's 1995 Insurgent Identities challenged Marxist (David Harvey) and humanist urban theory (Lefebvre and Manuel Castells) narratives of the Commune.

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Ski jumping at the 2015 European Youth Olympic Winter Festival

Ski jumping at the 2015 European Youth Olympic Winter Festival was held 27–30 January 2015 at Montafon Nordic Sportszentrum in Tschagguns, Austria. There are four events contested in this edition which consisted of 2 boys' events and an event both for girls and mixed team.


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Geurt Schoonman

Geurt Schoonman (17 December 1896 – 19 February 1971) was a Dutch sports shooter. He competed in the 50 m rifle event at the 1948 Summer Olympics.

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Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2019 September 20

20 September 2019

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 * Copyvio in lede removed (should probably be revdeled); remaining similarity appears to be unavoidable, as it primarily just lists of awards (i.e. not creative prose) --DannyS712 (talk) 21:24, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
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Myers-Briggs Type Indicator/ESTJ

ESTJs at work
very driven

Fictional ESTJs

 * Alex (Madagascar)
 * Anger (  Inside Out )
 * Anakin Skywalker (  Star Wars  )
 * Applejack (My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic)
 * Bowser (Mario)
 * Chief Bogo (  Zootopia  )
 * Dolores Umbridge (Harry Potter)
 * England (  Hetalia  )
 * Everett Young (  Stargate Universe  )
 * Harold Cooper (The Blacklist)
 * Izumi Curtis (  Fullmetal Alchemist & Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood  )
 * Jack Crawford (  Hannibal TV series  )
 * Joe Swanson (Family Guy)
 * Leia Organa (Star Wars)
 * Martin Hart (  True Detective  )
 * Minerva McGonagall (  Harry Potter series  )
 * Momo Yaoyirozu (  My Hero Academia  )
 * Mr. Krabs (Spongebob Squarepants)
 * Odafin  Fin  Tutuola (  Law & Order: SVU  )
 * Peter Pevensie (Chronicles of Narnia)
 * Rachel Dawes (The Dark Knight Trilogy)
 * Sarada Uchiha ( ' ' Boruto: Naruto: Next Generations '' )
 * Stan Smith (American Dad)
 * Tiana (  The Princess and the Frog  )
 * Woody (Toy Story)
 * Zazu (The Lion King)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Santa and the Three Bears

The result was keep. Tone 09:14, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Santa and the Three Bears

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I could hesitate to nominate it, was it for plot details, but since there's not even such thing, I think it should be deleted. Also, no references. NickBlamp (talk) 17:23, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think this sort of cite is what the current article is based on. Decent for establishing facts, but rubbish for establishing notability.
 * I'm not sure there are better sources out there. Rockphed (talk) 19:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 07:13, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - has not received significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources per WP:NFP - Epinoia (talk) 04:08, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - a reviews of newspapers.com shows this film was widely shown in theaters across the country in 1970 - 1972. It was then shown widely across the United States on television in the 1980s.  There are two significant sources about the film,  and the aforementioned book by Crump.  A review is also found in "Video Movie Guide 1996" by Mick Martin,  published by Ballantine Books.  Another review is found in Cinefantastique, volume 15, 1985.  Given the widespread, nearly ubiquitous showing of this film it is likely that a broad audience will seek encyclopedic information about this topic.   78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 18:50, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per 78.26. I would further add that I disagree with Rockphed's dismissal of The Christmas Encyclopedia. McFarland & Company is a publishing house that specializes in academic and reference works. The content in specialized encyclopedias, including The Christmas Encyclopedia, is especially significant because wikipedia is an encyclopedia that covers all content found in other encyclopedias. If a work is the main subject of an entry in a published encyclopedia it's always notable.4meter4 (talk) 20:29, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:53, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep as has coverage in reliable book sources as above and as it was widely released there should be reviews in newspapers offline if not online as it is a pre-internet subject, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:22, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


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Talk:Rahmon Nabiyev

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I'm having a problem with these boxes for dates. Don't know what exactly I'm doing wrong. --David Straub 03:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I found the error and fixed it --David Straub 04:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Tajik ҳ is transliterated as h, х as kh, so he is Rahmon. BTW, Rakhmon Nabiev - 85, Rahmon Nabiev - 87. Don Alessandro 19:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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Munavvara
Or Munavvar ? Is Munavvara a Russianized or westernized version of the name ?? Wisdood (talk) 15:46, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Chinese (Mandarin)/Lesson 2

“今天她们没有一节课” really sounds unnatural
I would say "今天她们一节课都没有” Does the character “都” in “今天,他們一節課"都"沒有. ” mean "any"? I don't think so .I think "even" would better.There can be a feeling of envy.Like "They don't 'even' have one class today".--Shinylight talk

"今天她们没有一节课" is just wrong. When negating posession, you don't give a quantity: 他們沒有課. (To get the idea of how wrong it feels, think of someone who has no money trying to express it in English by saying "I don't have three dollars and fifty four cents" - it is true, but it is so specific that it misses the general meaning that he wants. He should say "I have no money".) If you want the emphasis of "does not have even one class" you could use 都 (dou1) or 也 (ye3), but the word order is a little different from English: 他們一節課都沒有 or 他們一節課也沒有. Literally, 都 (dou1) by itself means "all" and 也 (ye3) means "also", but this is just one of those patterns that does not map neatly onto English word-by-word. I'm sure you could work 連 (lian2) "any" in there, but it would be icing on the cake; you already have that meaning by using either of those constructions with 都 or 也. --Yakowenko (talk) 06:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, it looks like some discussion is creeping into the lesson itself ("Actually,We seldom say..."). That's got to go. :-) --Yakowenko (talk) 07:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I have cleaned up the area by creating separate examples for "今天他们没有课" and "今天他们一门课都没有", with some explanation of the latter. Since I am a new editor, it would be awesome if someone could check it for formatting and quality. :) --Electricwhisper (discuss • contribs) 02:56, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Something about the "Guo4"(過)?
--Yacht (talk)Q 02:53, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Might be useful to have word-by-word translation of examples?

I'm going to change 你早 to 早安 as I, the native speaker I asked, and the Apple Simplified Chinese Input Method have never heard of the former, but have commonly heard the latter.

Someone had put in Roman spaces between Chinese punctuation marks and the first character of the next sentence. This is superfluous since the Chinese punctuation already has space built in. It also makes things look bad, as it keeps the characters from aligning vertically. So I removed the spaces.

 * I found this text a little bit "English", seems like a word-to-word translation from English to Chinese. We seldom hear "你好吗", "我很好，谢谢. 你呢？", "我也很好. " in Chinese. And the sentence "一节？！太少了！" a little bit unnature for me. they are all grammatically correct, just not sound native for me. --Yacht 18:19, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * As for "你好吗" and so on, that seems to be the starting place for most Chinese texts, even if it's not actually used every day. After all, you have to start somewhere really simple and can't just immediately jump in to exactly how a native speaker would say something.  For "一节？！太少了！", how would you say it?

 * Maybe 只一节？ (zhi3 yi1 jie2?)  But then, this lesson doesn't exactly need more vocabulary, does it? --Yakowenko (talk) 07:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

 * So what's the deal with having different word choices in the simplified and traditional versions of the first sentence? ("早上好" vs. "早安")   Even if the most common usage differs between the mainland and Taiwan, the beginning lessons should present something that is acceptable in either locale.  If we want to show both greetings, maybe 東尼 could say "早上好" and 艾美 could reply with "早安"? --Yakowenko (talk) 07:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Most (if not all) of the pronunciation for the vocabulary in this lesson is now uploaded at Commons. Since I'm not going to work on the actual content of this book, I thought it be best if someone else implemented the audio links here.
 * Enjoy.
 * Peter Isotalo 07:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Thank you, Peter. I'll link to them now.
 * Everlong 21:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I think putting 今天 at the beginning of the sentence sounds weird when spoken. I think it should be 你今天忙不忙. -deranged_physicist

By Lie-Hap-Po
Good morning : 你早/早安 Both exist in Chinese so you can use both.

uhh no... the first is not used in standard Mandarin.

It is worth pointing out that the word ‘早’ literally means 'early' in chinese, and it can only 'literally' mean morning if it is ‘早上’. The first one - referring to 你早/早安 - could be used in dialects like Cantonese (but I'm not so sure about that), but I've never heard a person saying '你早' 'in Mandarin. - chinzh

 * yeah 你早 is kinda informal, thou im sure you do get to hear this in somewhere of china, it would be a bit misleading for beginners.

and unlike in English where different kind of saying may mean completely another word, even you dont give learners this word, when later as their knowlege about chinese lang grows they'll easily understand what 你早 means whenever they meet/hear it. KonW (talk) 15:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

By Lie-Hap-Po
Chinese uses different words and different topics when they are talking to foreigners than when they are talking to other Chinese. Example How are you? CtC : 你吃了吗？CtF ：你好吗？ Example2 Your Chinese is very good. CtC:你普通话说得很好. CtF:你中文说得很好.

Suggest reducing vocabulary and adding a writing lesson
I think that, compared to most mainstream textbooks, this introduces vocabulary slightly too quickly for people who are new to characters. Someone who is new to characters would struggle with memorizing this many words at once. For example, the DeFrancis book has ten characters per lesson at the beginning.<IP_ADDRESS> 11:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Need simplified characters in vocab list
The characters in the vocab list are all traditional. Only the ones in parentheses should be traditional. I'll see if I can cut and paste; if not, someone else can do it since I don't have a chinese character typing tool on my computer. Emmaskis (talk) 17:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I just changed them a couple of minutes ago. Emmaskis (talk) 18:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Zaoshang
Using this to learn mandarin for the first time, notice zaoshang isn't the vocabulary, just zao. It doesn't really change the meaning, but it was confusing for me as I thought there was an extra word that i didn't understand.

Jie2
There is no definition for Jie2 in either this lesson or in lesson one
 * both "mén" and "Jie2" are measure word for school courses. --KaurJmeb (talk) 15:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

 * 门 refers to one course as a whole, whereas 节 refers to a single class period. It sounds a bit unnatural to me to say "今天我有四门课," where I would be more likely to say "这个学期我有四门课." I would rather say "今天我有四节课." I think 节 should be incorporated into the examples to reflect this. --Electricwhisper (discuss • contribs) 03:02, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Disapearing Pīnyīn
Pīnyīn disappears half-way through the dialogues and also half way through the grammar. This is not consistent, and also makes that part of the lesson useless for anyone who cannot read Chinese characters.

Missing vocabularies for 2nd dialogue
The second dialogue contains words that are not introduced in the vocabulary section

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Keane/archive1

Keane
Self nom. This article is about British band Keane. I've worked for three months now on it. I think it contains the most information possible about the band (excepting private facts for reasons of the band). However this article will keep being improved as they are an active band. Fluence 01:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC) -- Underneath-it-All 15:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've just noticed a few things that should be addressed.
 * 1) All the the promotional pictures used in the article should have fair use rationales written for them.
 * 2) The lead has too many one sentence paragraphs. These should be blended together into two larger paragraphs.
 * 3) A lot of fansites are listed under the External links section. Could this be cut down a bit?
 * 4) I see that a lot of your main source of information is a Keane fansite (keaneshaped.co.uk). You should try to find a variety of sources instead of using just one.
 * I've tried to look another sources of information about Keane around the Internet and the very few magazines that talk about them (I live in Mexico) but almost every source contains information taken from Keaneshaped. I think that fansite contains more information than the official page. I can't delete the links to the FAQ page of that fansite because of Copyright. Chris Flynn (owner of site) let the information he has recovered to be included here but including the links to his fansite. However, I've included the links to the original articles and sources on the "References" section. Some articles are now only found on Keaneshaped (there have been removed from the main source) so that's why there are very few references. If I change the "Notes" section links from Keaneshaped, Chris Flynn would have to erase half the article. I've also retired fansites and blended the lead. About the fair uses I'm looking forward to them Fluence 16:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Comment Can't the information within the trivia section be used elsewhere so the trivia section can be removed? Trivia sections aren't recommended in FA's. Also, there is no section citing their cultural influences and impact upon music. LuciferMorgan 13:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * OK I've removed the trivia and added a section. I don't like trivias either but as I've saw that many articles have them I included on this one Fluence 22:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Many of the references for the influences section and impact are from Keaneshaped and as Underneath-it-All said, there should be more references apart from the fansite but that information can't be found anywhere else but the link I've just included (Keane.at) Fluence 00:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Comment The page really is very imformative and no doubt it deserves 'featured status' Victoria Eleanor 14:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Which criteria are you referring to? Tony 06:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Object 1a. There is good in this article, but it needs thorough massaging throughout to meet the criterion. Let's look at three sentences in the lead.
 * "They are recognized worldwide because unlike most rock artists, they do not use a guitar in their music and because of Tom Chaplin's soft voice and falsetto. Despite this "no guitar" stance, they use synthesizers which sound almost exactly like guitars.[1] Keane have a particular style of music (piano rock) that many have compared to Coldplay, members of whom they met when they were at school."

I'm going to be very fussy:
 * would it be easier to read with another comma, before "unlike"?
 * "They" (being a band) contrasted with individual "artists"; use "bands" instead?
 * "voice" and "falsetto" are a category problem.
 * We're hit with the assertion that having no guitars is a "stance", after just being told that this is a characteristic of their musical texture. Before meeting it in passing, I'd rather have that deliberate stance or policy or philosophy formally explained, either here or in the body of the article.
 * The "despite" sentence seems to undermine the logic of their worldwide recognisability on the basis of having no guitars. It seems to be a reversal.
 * The two "becauses" are awkward—maybe the comma will improve this, but one because is a negative and the other is a positive. Why not draw these attributes together:
 * "They are easily recognized for the distinctive softness of Tom Chaplin's voice, often used in falsetto, and their use of synthesized rather than acoustic guitars." I'm unsure because I'm foreign to the topic, but it's wrong at the moment—I can see that much.

 * Remove "of music" as redundant. Why not "have a piano rock style that has been compared to the band Coldplay, ...". Should Coldplay be linked? "British band, Coldplay"? Dunno. Reference required to support your assertion that many people have said ...?

This is not nearly good enough. Tony 06:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Edited for Tony1's demands.Fluence 00:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


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redraft

Verb

 * 1) To draft again

Noun

 * 1) A second or subsequent draft
 * 2)  A new bill of exchange which the holder of a protested bill draws on the drawer or endorsers, for the amount of the bill, with costs and charges.

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Carl Reiser

Carl Reiser (5 June 1877 – 17 June 1950) was a German painter. His work was part of the painting event in the art competition at the 1936 Summer Olympics.

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Wikiversity shorts

Participants in this project create short (15 to 60 seconds) promotional videos for Wikiversity.

Styles
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Like Apple computer ads

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Like Firefox Ads
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According to information at the Wikimedia meta-wiki and at Wikipedia, the only approved method for directly posting video to Wikimedia websites is to use Ogg Theora video.

There is some information about Ogg Theora at www.theora.org and www.v2v.cc. May be useful: How to convert QuickTime movie to Ogg Theora and this list of Theora resources and a possible GUI converter called Super (for Windows. There might be a problem downloading with Firefox; try Explorer. See this review).

Testing output from Super.....[[Media:Short.ogg]]. The file plays using VLC media player for Mac OS X, but the file play terminates early. Super seems to work for more standard .mov and .mpg file conversions to Ogg video. VLC can also convert file formats and produce Ogg files, but it is slower than Super and its own documentation says, "Please note that VLC is not very suited for file to file transcoding. Its transcoding features are however useful to save network streams, for example."

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NolaCon (infosec conference)

The result was speedy delete. The article was speedily deleted by at 22:03, September 21, 2019 (UTC) per WP:CSD. Mz7 (talk) 23:41, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

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Australia at the 2013 World Games

Australia competed at the 2013 World Games held in Cali, Colombia.

Flying disc
Australia won the silver medal.

Karate
Tsuneari Yahiro won the bronze medal in the men's kumite 67 kg event and Maria Alexiadis won the bronze medal in the women's kumite 50 kg event.

Water skiing
Michale Briant won the bronze medal in the women's tricks event.

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User:Samtbartholomew

Camp Staff at Bethany Hills Camp and Conference Center. Only have this account to edit our Wikipedia page as needed.

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Talk:Dave Pearce

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Can we find out a date of birth for Dave Pearce please? And something about his baseball hats?Oliver9184 (talk) 18:46, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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Distance education and eLearning

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User:ClemencyBell/sandbox

Edith May Chalmers, Mrs Pender Chalmers (born 1894, Flintshire. Died Dec 1985, Devon). Only daughter of Dr Daniel Catlin Burlingham MD (1855-1912) and his wife Edith. Father from a Norfolk Quaker family but spent most of his professional life in Hawarden, Flintshire, having been invited there by Mrs W E Gladstone. Moved to Chester shortly before her father's death in 1912.

Married (1915) Captain John William Pender Chalmers RE (1889-1977). Divorced 1936 and subsequently married (Dec 1937) Frank Forrest (d 1950).

Vice Chairperson of Electrical Association for Women. Chairperson of Directors of the Forum Club.

Short-lived career as an actress (as Maysie Burlingham), appearing in rep productions at Bristol and Southampton in 1914-15.

Completed short course on Maintenance of Aircraft at the London Aeroplane Club.

May 1930 the Pender Chalmers spent three weeks flying to Baghdad, Babylon and Ur. Maysie later lectured extensively on this trip.

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User:CherishRael/sandbox

'Rael, is A Pretoria singer/songwriter real name Mahlatse Mabulane, born July 2 1996,the singers aim is to use her voice as an instrument by stretching out her backing vocals and sometimes her main vocal in a very ambient manner, this effect giving the listener a 3 D musical effect, this sound is explored on both her newer EP’s. Rael started singing in 2018 having always loved music but she explored it further when shegot vocal lessons. In 2019 she teamed up with Frieze Smoke and her 2nd EP “Prayers” was born, having previously released “Drive X Intimacy”, she followed up with her 3rd EP “Of Mud and Clay” teaming up with her long time collaborator Frieze Smoke and Tag teaming up with TYFAM (Tell Your Friends About Me). Her focal subject on the last 2 EP’s has been love, expressing her love for loving and showing us that love songs can be cool her latest single “Sober” defines that.

Her latest E.P Of Mud And Clay is found on all digital platforms https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/rael3/of-mud-and-clay-3https://open.spotify.com/album/4hp7gr8ChP98bKz3qImFkhttps://music.apple.com/za/album/of-mud-and-clay-ep/1527544539

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Talk:Pete Incaviglia

"Black Thursday" incident
I've never heard of this incident taking place and trying to Google it just leads back to the Wikipedia article or references to it. Can anyone verify this even took place? If not it seem borderline libelous. AtomicPunk77 06:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

This incident did occur. In Philadelphia, it was all over the news in '93. 12:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

There seems to be an inaccuracy, and I don't have the data to correct it: "In 3 seasons he amassed 100 home runs (in 213 at bats) and a 1.140 slugging percentage." If he did in fact hit 100 home runs in 213 at bats, he'd have at minimum a 1.878 slugging percentage, and it'd only be that low if he struck out at every other at bat.

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Πυθαγόρας

Etymology
Aristippus explained his name by saying, "He spoke (-agor-) the truth no less than did the Pythian (Pyth-)", thus referring his name to and.

Proper noun

 * : Pythagoras
 * 1) in particular, the pre-Socratic philosopher Pythagoras of Samos

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Beaumes-de-Venise

Beaumes-de-Venise (Baumas de Venisa) is a commune in the Vaucluse department in the Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur region in southeastern France.

Name
The word "beaumes" comes from the Provençal word bauma meaning "cave" or "grotto". The surrounding hills have many of these caves that were inhabited during the Iron Age.

Wine
The village gives its name to a sweet wine appellation, Muscat de Beaumes-de-Venise. It also gives its name to a drier red wine, formerly Côtes du Rhone Villages Beaumes-de-Venise, now Beaumes de Venise AOC.

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User:Jlevi/NA

A variety of somewhat interesting critiques of NA have emerged. Since the topic cooled off over the last few years, these don't seem represented on wp.

 * Getting Beyond “New Atheism” (CA, 2017)
 * New Atheism, Old Empire (Jacobin, 2014)
 * Reason, Faith, and Revolution: Reflections on the God Debate
 * Opinion:Scientific racism, militarism, and the new atheists (Al Jazeera, 2013)
 * From the Enlightenment to the Dark Ages: How "new atheism" slid into the alt-right (Salon, 2017)
 * Opinion: We can save atheism from the New Atheists like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris (The Guardian 2015)
 * Village Atheists, Village Idiots (Baffler, 2016)
 * What scares the new atheists (The Guardian, 2015)
 * What Was New Atheism? (The Point Mag, 2019)
 * Can atheist Sam Harris become a spiritual figure? (washingtonpost, 2014)
 * Making Space for Agnosticism: A Response to Dawkins and James
 * Creating a Godless Community: The Collective Identity Work of Contemporary American Atheists
 * The Atheistic Voice

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Eko Guitars

Eko is an Italian manufacturer of electric guitars, acoustic guitars and similar instruments, catering to professional level and manufacturing largely for export. It is located in Recanati, Marche.

Guitars
Their products include classical guitars, 12-string guitars, arch top guitars, electric guitars and acoustic bass guitars.

Eko gained high popularity during the rock 'n' roll craze of the 1960s, becoming the largest guitar exporter in Europe. Their electric models were often highly ornamented with pearl, featured 3 or 4 pickups and recognizable "rocker" switches for pickup selection. The acoustic models were popular in country and folk rock bands of the late '60s. The best-known models of the '60s include:

 * Eko 400 Ekomaster (Fender Jaguar shape with flat-top, Hagström-style control panel),
 * Eko 500 (Fender Jaguar lookalike),
 * Eko 700 (original triple-cutaway design with "hockey stick" head),
 * Eko 290 (also known as Eko Barracuda, semi-hollow flat-top electric),
 * Eko Rokes (rocket-shaped electric, made popular by an Italian pop band of the same name, The Rokes)
 * Eko Kadett ('67 original double cutaway with characteristic long "horns") and
 * Eko Ranger (the best-selling Eko product, acoustic in 6 and 12-string version).
 * Eko 995 (violin bodied 4 string bass wildly popular in the late 60's)

Eko also produced guitars for Vox in the '60s, in the USA they were distributed through LoDuca brothers of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
 * Vox Mark III
 * Vox Phantom
 * Vox Ultrasonic

In the UK the instruments were imported by Rose-Morris, London.

In Australia their instruments were imported by Rose Music and often, but not always, branded with their house brand Eston.

Eko guitar has been manufacturing guitars since the early 60s and continue to through present day.

As of 2015, Eko guitars were imported and distributed in the United States by Kelley Distribution of Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

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In statics, the sum of the forces is equal to zero

Lesson: In Statics the Sum of the Forces is Equal to Zero.

The term statics refers to an object or system in static equilibrium. The object or system is motionless because all of the forces balance to zero.

Newton's Second Law:

ΣF = Σ(ma) = m1a1 + m2a2 + m3a3 + • • •  + mnan

The sum of the forces is equal to the mass times the acceleration. The 2nd law tells us that if the object or system is motionless, the acceleration is equal to zero. Therefore the sum of the vector forces must be equal to zero.

Example: Consider a table with four legs and a 200 kg object resting motionless in the center of the table:

Object     Mass of object = 200 kg ______________ |       |    Mass of table  = 100 kg   |        | |       |    What forces act upon the bottom of each table leg?

The force upward on the legs is found by balancing these forces in the equation given by Newton's Law:

ΣF = ma = 0 = - (200 kg X 9.81 m/s2) - (100 kg X 9.81 m/s2) + (Forceleg X 4)

Gravity is acting downward on the 200 kg object and the 100 kg table. Therefore, we may substitute the acceleration due to gravity (on Earth), g (9.81 m/s2), for a.

Forceleg = ((200 kg X 9.81 m/s2) + (100 kg X 9.81 m/s2)) / 4

The unit kg•m/s2 is equivalent to the unit of force called a Newton (N). Thus when multiplying through, the kilograms cancel out.

Forceleg = (1962 N + 981 N) / 4

Forceleg = 735.75 N

This means that each leg exerts a downward force of 735.75 Newtons on the floor, and the floor simultaneously exerts the same force upward on each table leg.

Notice that it is critical that a consistent sign convention be followed throughout the entire analysis effort. The sign convention is typically chosen in more complex problems to ease the total amount of algebra necessary to analyze the equations in the x, y, and z axis. We chose positive values to mean upward forces and negative values to mean downward forces, but we could have also used the opposite, provided we were consistent.

Corrollary for torque
Lesson: In Statics the Sum of the Torques is Equal to Zero.

The sum of all rotational forces, or torques, denoted by the capital Greek letter tau ($$\Tau$$), is also zero. Commonly used units for torque are foot•pounds (ft•lb) and Newton•meters (N•m).

Newton's Second Law (applied to torques):

Σ$$\Tau$$ = Σ(ωI) = ω1I1 + ω2I2 + ω3I3 + • • •  + ωnIn

The sum of the torques is equal to the rotational mass (or moment of inertia, I) times the angular acceleration (denoted by the lower case Greek letter omega, ω). The 2nd law tells us that if the object or system is motionless, the angular acceleration is equal to zero. Therefore the sum of the vector torques must be equal to zero.

Torques may also be calculated as forces times distances:

Σ$$\Tau$$ = Σ(Fd) = F1d1 + F2d2 + F3d3 + • • •  + Fndn

Example: Consider a massless lever with two weights attached and a single massless support:

|         +   Weight of object 1    = 10 lb  |         /|   Distance from fulcrum = 10 ft  |        / | |     R/  |   Distance of support W|    E/|S w1   from fulcrum         =  7 ft A|    V/ |U L|  E/  |P     Weight of object 2    = 80 lb L|  L/|  |P     Distance from fulcrum =  4 ft      |  / w2 |O | /    |R     What forces act upon the |/     |T     massless lever ? FLOOR

First let's write the static torque equation for the system:

Σ$$\Tau$$ = Σ(Fd) = F1d1 + FSdS + F2d2 = 0

Forces 1 and 2 are actually the weights of the two objects:

Σ$$\Tau$$ = Σ(Fd) = w1d1 + FSdS + w2d2 = 0

Substitute in known values:

Σ$$\Tau$$ = Σ(Fd) = (-10 lb)(10 ft) + FS(7 ft) + (-80 lb)(4 ft) = 0

Solve for FS:

Σ$$\Tau$$ = Σ(Fd) = (-100 ft•lb) + FS(7 ft) + (-320 ft•lb) = 0

FS(7 ft) = (420 ft•lb)

FS = (420 ft•lb)/(7 ft) = 60 lb

Thus, a force of 60 pounds acts upward on the lever from the support in order to balance the torques on the lever. Since the total weight on the lever is 90 pounds and 60 of those pounds are countered by the support, the remaining 30 pounds must act upward on the lever at the fulcrum in the lower, left corner.

Note that we didn't need to use the fulcrum as the point from which all distances are measured, we could have chosen any point along the lever. However, as with forces, a consistent sign convention must be used. In this case, positive may be used for clockwise (CW) torques measured from one point of view, with negative torques used for counterclockwise (CCW) torques measured from the same POV. The opposite system could also be used, so long as we were consistent.

Also note that the table example used previously stated that the object was in the center of the table. If not, then balancing the torques (in two directions) would result in more force supported by some table legs and less by others. If the object was directly over one of the legs, for example, then it's entire weight would be supported by that leg, in addition to one-fourth of the table's weight. The other legs would then only support one-fourth of the table's weight each.


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Ford Lake Dam

The Ford Lake Dam (originally known as the Rawsonville Dam and sometimes referred to as the Hydro Dam ) is an earthen, multi-arch hydroelectric gravity dam and powerhouse crossing the Huron River in Ypsilanti Charter Township in Washtenaw County in the U.S. state of Michigan. The dam was constructed in 1931–1932 and created the Ford Lake reservoir at 975 acre.

The Ford Lake Dam is 6.5 mi downstream from the Peninsular Paper Dam and 7.9 mi upstream from the French Landing Dam and Powerhouse. The dam is approximately 36 mi from the Huron River's mouth at Lake Erie.

The dam and powerhouse were commissioned by Henry Ford in order to supply electricity to the nearby Ypsilanti Ford Motor Plant. In 1969, the dam and surrounding land area were given to the city of Ypsilanti and surrounding township. The township took full ownership in 1990 and maintains control of the facility. The dam has a maximum spillway capacity of 28,000 cubic feet per second (793 m3/s). The south embankment of the dam contains an emergency fuse plug spillway. The area surrounding the dam's output is organized into two parks operated by the township. The North Hydro Park is part of the Border-to-Border Trail. Along with the adjacent, undeveloped South Hydro Park, the area is popular for shore fishermen and canoeing/kayaking along the Huron River to Belleville Lake.

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Croatan (disambiguation)

The Croatan were an Algonkian tribe living in what is now the Carolinas.

Croatan may also mean:
 * Croatan Beach, Virginia Beach, Virginia, neighborhood of Virginia Beach
 * Croatan Sound, an inlet on the North Carolina coast
 * Croatan National Forest, a national forest in North Carolina
 * Croatan High School, a public secondary school near Croatan National Forest
 * USS Croatan, two American aircraft carriers of that name
 * Croatan (World of Darkness), an extinct tribe of werewolves in the roleplaying game Werewolf: The Apocalypse
 * Croatan, a 2005 studio album by Philadelphia metal band Starkweather released by Candlelight Records in 2006

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Cerca de ti (song)

Cerca de ti is both the third Spanish single from Thalía's 2003 crossover album Thalía and the first from her 2004 Greatest Hits compilation. The ballad was written by Thalía and produced by Steve Morales. Also, the original English version was first included on 2002's Thalía album, and later included in that album's English-language counterpart released the following year.

"Cerca de ti" became her fourth number-one single on the Billboard Hot Latin Tracks chart.

Music video
The music video for "Cerca de ti" was directed by Jeb Brien and shot in New York City. It shows Thalía walking along the streets as an anonymous person. The video was released in January, 2004.

Official versions/remixes

 * 1) "Cerca de ti" [Album Version]
 * 2) "Cerca de ti" [Salsa Remix]
 * 3) "Cerca de ti" [Regional Mexican Version]
 * 4) "Closer to You"

Track listing
Mexican CD single (#1)
 * 1) "Cerca de ti" [Grupera Version]

Mexican CD single (#2)
 * 1) "Cerca de ti" [Album Version]

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Talk:Nottingham Forest, Houston

Objectivity
This article seems to have a very strong agenda in the "Crime" section. Definitely NOT NPOV. Seems someone dislikes the Katrina refugees and is venting a little. I can't say I blame him/her, I don't like what many have done to the city, on a whole I think they drag it down, but I'm not sure if this article is the best place to vent that. Still, seeing as they included sources, I'm not going to delete.Mmyers1976 (talk) 19:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I know what the crime wave has been like - I live in this neighborhood - and there have been refugees living in the bayou, coming out at dusk and robbing residents. While it may sound a bit harsh, it is true that there has been an increase in crime in all areas of the city since August 2005. Just last year, an old couple just behind where I live were robbed at gunpoint by a badly dressed African-American who had ran out of Terry Hershey Park. The neighborhood newsletter reports crime every month. Sadly, these Katrina refugees are trying to earn a living by robbing the wealthier. Also, there are hundreds of other online sources. — JuWiki (Talk <> Resources) 21:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Your sources do clearly indicate a crime rise. However, the language here is misleading - the sentence "...There have been multiple robberies and assaults, all committed by evacuees, in the past year..." reads as if ALL of these crimes are to do with evacuees. It is unclear. Also, "...Because this upper-middle class neighborhood is located next to an apartment complex which is accepting Section 8 vouchers, it has become a target for evacuees..." is unfounded. This needs a citation, surely. - Daniel Walker (talk) 23:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I live in Ashford Forest north of Buffalo Bayou, which pretty much blends seamlessly into the section of Nottingham Forest at the corner of Memorial and Dairy-Ashford, so I am not unfamiliar with the situation. I don't disagree with your feelings on the subject, but this is not the place to vent them. You have provided sources on the rise in crime in Houston in Katrina in general, but you have provided no credible sources that a significant portion of crimes in Nottingham Forest VIII (or even any of the crimes committed there) have been committed by Katrina refugees. That makes what you wrote about Katrina refugees targeting upper-middle class Nottingham Forest conjecture. I totally agree with your opinion, but Wikipedia is not the place to vent.Mmyers1976 (talk) 20:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

After rereading paragraph about Katrina evacuees and crime in the neighborhood, I felt it needed to be deleted. Yes, there were sources that linked the increase of crime in Houston as a whole to Katrina evacuees, there were no sources that linked an increase in crime in Nottingham Forest VIII to evacuees, and so certainly nothing to support the sentence"...There have been multiple robberies and assaults, all committed by evacuees, in the past year..." There was no source for the contention that Section 8 voucher-holders were living in nearby apartments (even though I believe it to be true), and the contention that Katrina evacuees are "targeting" our neighborhood, while something I believe to be true, is unencyclopedic. The talk about this situation causing "tensions" in the neighborhood is vague and unencyclopedicMmyers1976 (talk) 20:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I can understand why this paragraph may be offensive to some people, but deleting it entirely might be too much. I say we should change the sentence in question to "There have been multiple robberies and assaults, most [or many] committed by evacuees." (Unsigned comment addes by "JuWiki2")
 * I really don't care if Katrina evacuees are offended or not, they are a scourge to our city - the paragraph shouldn't be deleted because of others' delicate sensibilities, it should be deleted because it is unverified. The supposed sources included in the paragraph discuss increases of crime associated with Katrina evacuees in the city of Houston in general - a city over 500 square miles in area. These sources do not mention Nottingham Forest at all, so they do not support the claim that there is an increae in crime in Nottingham Forest, or that Katrina refugees have committed any crimes in Nottingham Forest.Even your suggested fix of "most" or "many" crimes being committed in Nottingham Forest by Katrina evacuees is unverified - see WP:Weasel . There is no source that substantiates that ANY crimes have been committed in NOTTINGHAM FOREST by Katrina evacuees. If you can find even one or two specific reports that state specific crimes committed by specific people who were verified to be Katrina evacuees, I would be happy to see a paragraph on Katrina evacuees and crime in Nottingham Forest, but until then, it has no place here.Mmyers1976 (talk) 14:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Inconsistency with article title
This article refers to Nottinham Forest VIII as "Nottingham Forest." This is not the same neighborhood. Nottingham Forest is between Kirkwood and Dairy Ashford, South of Memorial drive, and is zoned to Meadow Wood elementary. For people looking for information on Nottingham Forest, this article is misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katjs (talk • contribs) 16:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that this is misleading. The article is actually about the VIII subsection of Nottingham Forest. Postoak (talk) 23:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I've finally fixed this (a year later). The article now covers the subdivision of Nottingham Forest, which is two neighborhoods (Nottingham Forest and Nottingham Forest VIII) combined. — TheDarthEgg 22:59, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Notability
I question the notability of a subsection of a surburban subdivision neighborhood. I recommend this article be AfD'dMmyers1976 (talk) 14:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I see that the notability request and nomination for deletion was done concurrently. I would have given the editors some time to establish notability before requesting deletion, but I do agree that the current version isn't notable. Postoak (talk) 23:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Living across the street from this neighborhood, I didn't see how it could possibly be notable (not like my neighborhood is either), so I pushed through on AfD right after questioning notability. I'm new to AfDing (this is my second one), I'll remember to allow some time between notability request and AfDing next time. Thanks for the constructive feedback.Mmyers1976 (talk) 17:03, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ech... I was afraid this would occur sooner or later. With this article being my first firmly established work on Wikipedia, it'll be hard to deal with deleting the page. I agree that Nottingham Forest VIII is hardly notable, but I don't like the idea of two years' worth of work going to waste. But, still, it is Wikipedia policy, and I'm barley editing anymore since my original account malfunctioned, so I guess the deletion will commence. I can't believe it took until 2009 for NF8's page to be submitted to AFD. It was good while it lasted. — JuWiki (Talk <> Resources) 00:23, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S.: the AFD nomination page includes a comment regarding my inclusion of NF8's position on the city's wealthiest neighborhood list. I never meant for its listing to be a means for notability. — JuWiki (Talk <> Resources) 00:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope you won't be discouraged to continue contributing here, by this, it's just part of the process that is Wikipedia. Just a couple months ago I found a stub article on my old junior high school, and I spent a lot of time cleaning it up and adding information on the history of the school, including its previous location, only to have an editor come in and delete the page because junior highs are generally non-notable. Sucked a little to have my work evaporate like that, but it opened my eyes up to the nonnotability of elementary and junior high schools. Your work also need not go to waste. I think there is a very good chance that a "Memorial Area, Houston" article would pass muster as notable, and your information on Nottingham Forest, Section VIII would be a good addition to that. Maybe you are just the person to originate an article on the Memorial Area.Mmyers1976 (talk) 15:09, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Please see Memorial, Houston. Postoak (talk) 19:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, there is one already. Thanks. Mmyers1976 (talk) 19:24, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Speaking of Memorial, would it be a good idea to merge this article with the main Memorial page? Or is the Memorial area too broad to encompass a detailed section on Nottingham Forest without mentioning the dozens of other neighborhoods in its radius? — JuWiki (Talk <> Resources) 21:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe others will have a different perspective, but merging this into the Memorial page sounds like a good idea to me.Mmyers1976 (talk) 21:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, I think this is a great idea. We may need to expand coverage of the other Memorial neighborhoods in the Memorial article and trim Nottingham Forest a little. Postoak (talk) 23:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * But what about the other neighborhoods in the Memorial area? — JuWiki (Talk <> Resources) 01:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Sports Subsection under Education
Subsection made it sound like these teams were officially affiliated with the neighborhood, rather than being part of the high school, which serves a wide area, or youth leagues serving a wide area. Also, youth leagues like a Little League team have nothing to do with Education, and so shouldn't be part of a subsection of a section on education. Finally, having a sports subsection in the education section that just mentions the three marque boys' sports teams at the exclusion of all the girls's teams and all the other boys' teams puts undue weight on those marque teams; in fact, just focusing on these sports teams in the education section puts undue weight on sports at Stratford, to the exclusion of all the other nonathletic extracurricular activities at which students excel. Obviously one cannot list all extracurricular activities, but there is already a solution - Stratford High School already has its own Wikipedia article, is already named in the article, and anyone wanting to find more information about its sports and other extracurriculars can look there. Mmyers1976 (talk) 15:44, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

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Israel in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2012

Israel participated in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2012 which took place on 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, The Netherlands, and thus, made its debut at the Junior Eurovision Song Contest. The Israeli broadcaster Israel Broadcasting Authority (IBA) was responsible for organising their entry for the contest, and they chose the kids band Kids.il performing the song "Let The Music Win" to represent Israel in its first competition.

Kids.il
Kids.il is an Israeli music group consisting of six child singers. Their song entry, "Let The Music Win" was Israel's first entry in the whole competition. It is composed and written by Ohad Hitman. It was the sixth song in the night of the competition, following Russia and preceding Albania. ending in 8th place with 68 points in a field of 12 competing countries.

Group members are:
 * Adel Korshov was born on November 20, 2001.
 * Adi Mesilati was born on July 31, 1998.
 * Bar Zemach was born on July 17, 2000.
 * Daniel Pruzansky was born on September 30, 1999.
 * Libi Panker was born on March 29, 1998.
 * Tali Sorokin was born on February 12, 2002.
 * Adi Bity (עדי ביטי; born May 26, 2001 )

At Junior Eurovision
Kids.il performed sixth in the night of the competition, following Russia and preceding Albania. At the close of the voting it had received 68 points, placing 8th in a field of 12 competing countries.