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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pritzker Military Presents

The result was delete. The "keep" opinions rely only on WP:RPRGM, which is not a policy or guideline and therefore not reflective of established projectwide consensus. Accordingly, the "keep" opinions must be given less weight than the "delete" opinions, which rely on WP:GNG, a widely accepted guideline.  Sandstein  10:59, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Pritzker Military Presents

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Fails WP:GNG. This promotional article was written by at least three people who work for or are associated with the subject. The article's 127 citations consist solely of IMDb (unacceptable as a user-generated website) and its own website pritzkermilitary.org (which is unacceptable as a primary and a self-published source). A WP:BEFORE search is hindered by the enormous volume of advertising and cross-advertising for this subject, and I was unable to find a single article discussing the show itself or anything that would contribute towards establishing its notability. Per What Wikipedia is not: it is not for advertising, marketing, a means of self-promotion, a catalog or directory, or a web hosting service — all of which this 'article' attempts to use Wikipedia for. There is a mention of this show in Pritzker Military Museum & Library, but I fail to see why the entire series of episodes needs to be hosted on Wikipedia instead of its own website. Even the main article topic (Pritzker Military Museum & Library) doesn't have much coverage. I notice there is even a wikiproject GLAM/Pritzker to coordinate the Pritzker promotions. Not sure that's acceptable in Wikipedia. Normal Op (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Normal Op (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions. Normal Op (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Normal Op (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Normal Op (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: Meets WP:RPRGM: "an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television channel with a broad regional or national audience." as indicated by the lede: "It airs on PBS channels WYCC, WTTW Channel 11, and WTTW-Prime Channel 11-2 weekly." There's a clear lack of WP:BEFORE here, as the first page of a Google search brings up pages supporting those claims. The mischaracterisation of GLAM/Pritzker is outrageous.  Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:35, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: That quote starts with the word "Generally" which you have omitted from your rendition,, meaning that isn't an open and shut case. The policy also includes "the presence or absence of reliable sources is more definitive than the geographic range of the program's audience alone", to which I point out (again) the glaring omission from the article of ANY citation except for those from its own website and IMDb content (mindful that IMDb content can be user-generated). In other words, your argument on the face does NOT solve the notability issue. Nor does it address the WP:PROMOTIONAL nature of the article, especially since it is supported by the museum's own WikiProject. What other organization in the world has its own WikiProject?!?!?! Normal Op (talk) 23:49, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * "What other organization in the world has its own WikiProject?!?!?!". Dozens, possibly hundreds. There is nothing promotional about the article; it contains bare factual statements of the type common - and welcome - in Wikipedia. Your nomination rationale, as well as lacking WP:BEFORE, is apparently based on fundamental misunderstandings. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:37, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Huh, GLAM, that's a new one on me. Learn something new every day. Normal Op (talk) 20:44, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Question: Is there any desire to reconsider this AFD based on learning more about GLAM? KConWiki (talk) 14:46, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: I struck my objection to GLAM project in the nomination text. There remains the problem that there are ZERO secondary source citations in the article showing this topic is notable. Fix that, show me that the topic/article is notable by your actions, not simply your words, and I will consider your request. Normal Op (talk) 18:27, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Thank you for your response and thank you for your reconsideration regarding the GLAM question. I have found several references to this television program that might be of help, including one from the U.S. Strategic Command, one from the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, and one from the American Battlefields Trust. The most interesting one I found (though this would raise questions of citogenesis were we to try to use it in the article) was a chapter in the book Leveraging Wikipedia: Connecting Communities of Knowledge that was specifically about the Pritzker Museum & Library's experiences with having a Wikipedia GLAM project. (This book has been on my to-read list for a while, but I have not yet gotten to it.) KConWiki (talk) 23:00, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * If those are relevant and appropriate, then you should edit the article. Normal Op (talk) 23:42, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Deletion proposals do not stand or fall on whether someone edits the article (something you could do, and should have done before nominating this article), but whether sources exist. You could do the right thing and withdraw this one, which will never succeed, now, to save other people their time. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:28, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 15:51, 27 August 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Pritzker Military Museum & Library - the references presented by KConWiki are all trivial mentions in press releases about subjects of the show, and are more substantially about the museum. All of the PBS stations mentioned are in Chicago, meaning that I wouldn't consider it to be on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope).  I don't see the substantial coverage to justify a stand-alone article. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 00:50, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Why can stations located in a city not be regional? Where would you expect regional stations to be based? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:48, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Their quote is from Notability (media). Normal Op (talk) 17:23, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Airing on three stations owned by the same group in the same city is not a regional network. So WP:RPRGM is not met. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 22:51, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: As per the Lead, it meets WP:RPRGM. --Whiteguru (talk) 12:00, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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Anharibag, Bhojpur

Anharibag, also spelled Anharibagh, is a village in Jagdishpur block of Bhojpur district in Bihar, India. As of 2011, its population was 1,287, in 213 households. It is located just north of the city of Jagdishpur.

source: wikimedia

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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Cookbook:Cuisine of Lebanon

| Mediterranean

Lebanese Cuisine consists of a variety of fresh vegetarian recipes, salads and stews all seasoned with a flavoursome combination of herbs and spices. One of the most widely recognised Lebanese specialties is called Maza, also written "Mezze", which is a selection of appetizers: olives, cheeses, Labanee, or small portions also known as muqabbilat (starters).

The cuisine of Lebanon includes an abundance of starches, fruits, vegetables, fresh fish and seafood; animal fats are consumed sparingly. Poultry is eaten more often than red meat, and when red meat is eaten it is usually lamb. The cuisine also includes copious amounts of garlic and olive oil, often seasoned by lemon juice - nary a meal goes by in Lebanon that does not include these ingredients. Most often foods are either grilled, baked or sauted in olive oil; butter or cream is rarely used other than in a few desserts. Vegetables are often eaten raw or pickled as well as cooked. While the cuisine of Lebanon doesn't boast an entire repertoire of sauces, it focuses on herbs, spices and the freshness of ingredients; the assortment of dishes and combinations are almost limitless. The meals are full of robust, earthy flavors and, like most Mediterranean countries, much of what the Lebanese eat is dictated by the seasons.

Chicken

 * Garlic Lemon Chicken Slow-cooked chicken with a lemon/garlic marinade.
 * Chicken Shawarma Chicken heavily marinated in yoghurt and various spices in a yoghurt and tahini sauce, wrapped in a pita with tomato.

Lamb

 * Sheik el Mahshi Eggplant with lamb, tomato and pine nuts
 * Warak Dawali Grape leaves stuffed with lamb, rice and tomatoes
 * Lamb Shawarma Lamb heavily marinated in yoghurt and various spices in a yoghurt and tahini sauce wrapped in a pita with tomato.

Mezzah (Lebanese appetizers)

 * Hommos (Hummous) Mashed chickpeas (US: garbanzo beans) with Tahina
 * Moutabbal (Baba Ghannouj) Mashed eggplant with tahini/tahina
 * Balila Peas
 * Sawda nayyeh (sawda nayyeh) or Asbeh Nayyeh: raw lamb liver with some white meat and special spices include black pepper, cumin and dried flower petals. Served raw with pepper, chili, mint, salt. Sawda nayyeh is best paired with the Lebanese homemade Liquor ARAK.

Salads

 * Tabbouleh Parsley, tomato, burghol
 * Fattoush Various green vegetables, radish, toasted pita bread.

Yoghurt (Dishes cooked with yoghurt)

 * Kebbe Labnieh Meatballs with yoghurt and garlic
 * Laban Emmoh Same as Kebbe Labnieh with rice

Vegetarian

 * Batata Harra Potatoes, red peppers, coriander, chilli, and garlic, Cut the potatoes in small square like pieces with the size of your thumb, deep fry these potatoes until cooked, then dry them from fried oil, then add them to the already fried coriander and garlic in an open pan, stir them for 7 min, add the chili and salt. Best eaten with pita bread.
 * Moujadara Lentils, burghal wheat and onions

Desserts

 * Ma'amoul pastries filled with dates or nuts.

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Van Dwelling/Shower

One of the hardest needs to satisfy well on the road is keeping clean.

Important Health Note:whenever you use public facilities, make sure you wear foot protection and touch as little of anything as possible. The recent outbreaks of antibiotic resistant staph and skin infections were all acquired in public facilities.

Gym club
If you can afford it, get a membership at a gym. For between $20 - $50.00/month, you'll have daily access to a hot shower and gym equipment.

Truck Stops
Flying J, Pilot, T/A, and other truck stops offer showers for $7 - $9 (current prices in 2007).

McDonald's/Grocery store
These are good for occasional use, but I always felt uncomfortable using them. It's pretty obvious what you're doing in the bathroom if you go in there bleary-eyed and unshaven, and come out clean, shaved, and well-coiffed. Avoid If you can

"Dundo"/ Sponge Bath method
This is the least water consuming method, and is the easiest method for keeping clean if you're living in a car or other small space.

You can keep reasonably clean at minimum, you will need about 1 quart of water. Heat half the water to boiling on a camp stove. Pour about a 2 cups of water into a bowl, and add a enough cold water to make the temperature comfortable. Wet a small dishrag or sponge with the water. Take off your top, and drape a towel over your shoulders. Wet your hair with the dishrag. Pour a small droplet of soap into your palm and work it into your hair. Repeat until you have a lather. Use as little soap as necessary, so that you don't have to use much water to rinse it out. Leave the soap in your hair to soak while you lather up your face and torso. Bend over a bowl, and pour water over your hair so it drains into the bowl.

Camping shower
A plastic bladder which is clear on one side and black on the other. It can be placed on the dashboard or anywhere in the sun to warm the water. Hang it from something(a tree or part of your van) and the water flows through a tube and out through a shower head. If you prefer to shower outside of your van be sure to find a secluded spot such as behind a grocery store or strip mall. Showering inside a plastic rain poncho can prevent indecent exposure. Fast drying travel towels composed of synthetic materials are available and often preferable over slow to dry cotton towels. Nearly identical towels are available for a much lower price in the automotive or housecleaning section of most grocery and big-box stores.

Built-in Heat Exchanger
Several systems exist for hooking up a hot water heater to your automobile's cooling system.

Truck Shower
There are commercial product for showering in a vehicle, typically designed for truckers. Its a little expensive at around $300.

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Ada Programming/Types/Enumeration

An enumeration type is defined as a list of possible values:

Primary_Color (Red, Green, Blue);

Like for numeric types, where e.g. 1 is an integer literal, Red, Green and Blue are called the literals of this type. There are no other values assignable to objects of this type.

Operators and attributes
Apart from equality ("="), the only operators on enumeration types are the ordering operators: "<", "<=", "=", "/=", ">=", ">", where the order relation is given implicitly by the sequence of literals: Each literal has a position, starting with 0 for the first, incremented by one for each successor. This position can be queried via the 'Pos attribute; the inverse is 'Val, which returns the corresponding literal. In our example:

Primary_Color' (Red) = 0 Primary_Color' (0)  = Red

There are two other important attributes: and  (don't confuse  with ). returns the string representation of the value (in capital letters), is the inverse:

Primary_Color' ( Red ) = "RED" Primary_Color' ("Red") = Red

These attributes are important for simple IO (there are more elaborate IO facilities in for enumeration types). Note that, since Ada is case-insensitive, the string given to 'Value can be in any case.

Enumeration literals
Literals are overloadable, i.e. you can have another type with the same literals.

Traffic_Light (Red, Yellow, Green);

Overload resolution within the context of use of a literal normally resolves which Red is meant. Only if you have an unresolvable overloading conflict, you can qualify with special syntax which Red is meant:

Primary_Color'(Red)

Like many other declarative items, enumeration literals can be renamed. In fact, such a literal is actually a function, so it has to be renamed as such:

Red P.Primary_Color  P.Red;

Here, Primary_Color is assumed to be defined in package P, which is visible at the place of the renaming declaration. Renaming makes Red directly visible without necessity to resort the use-clause.

Note that redeclaration as a function does not affect the staticness of the literal.

Characters as enumeration literals
Rather unique to Ada is the use of character literals as enumeration literals:

ABC ('A', 'B', 'C');

This literal 'A' has nothing in common with the literal 'A' of the predefined type Character (or Wide_Character).

Every type that has at least one character literal is a character type. For every character type, string literals and the concatenation operator "&" are also implicitly defined.

My_Character (No_Character, 'a', Literal, 'z'); My_String  (Positive  <>)  My_Character; S: My_String := "aa" & Literal & "za" & 'z'; T: My_String := ('a', 'a', Literal, 'z', 'a', 'z');

In this example, S and T have the same value.

Ada's Character type is defined that way. See Ada Programming/Libraries/Standard.

Booleans as enumeration literals
Also Booleans are defined as enumeration types:

Boolean (False, True);

There is special semantics implied with this declaration in that objects and expressions of this type can be used as conditions. Note that the literals False and True are not Ada keywords.

Thus it is not sufficient to declare a type with these literals and then hope objects of this type can be used like so:

My_Boolean (False, True); Condition: My_Boolean; Condition -- wrong, won't compile

If you need your own Booleans (perhaps with special size requirements), you have to derive from the predefined Boolean:

My_Boolean  Boolean; Condition: My_Boolean; Condition -- OK

Enumeration subtypes
You can use  to subtype an enumeration type:

Capital_Letter Character  'A' .. 'Z';

Day_Of_Week (Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday); Working_Day Day_Of_Week  Monday .. Friday;

Using enumerations
Enumeration types being scalar subtypes, type attributes such as First and Succ will allow stepping through a subsequence of the values.

Day_Of_Week Sunday ISO (False); Day_Of_Week (Sunday) ISO (True); Tuesday .. Saturday Program_Error; ;

A loop will automatically step through the values of the subtype's range. Filtering week days to include only working days with an even position number:

Day Working_Day Day_Of_Week (Day) 2  0 Work_In_Backyard; ;      ;

Enumeration types can be used as array index subtypes, yielding a table feature:

Officer_ID  0 .. 50;   Schedule   (Working_Day)  Officer_ID;

Wikibook

 * Ada Programming
 * Ada Programming/Types
 * Ada Programming/Libraries/Standard
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'First
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Last
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Pred
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Succ
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Img
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Image
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Value
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Pos
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Val
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Enum_Rep
 * Ada_Programming/Attributes/'Enum_Val

Ada Reference Manual

|Enumeration

Programación en Ada/Tipos/Enumeraciones

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Korean/Lesson III6

제6과: 어느 정도로 나를 사랑해?

 * 대화
 * A:민이는 토마스 얼마만큼 사랑해? Min, How much do you love Thomas-?
 * B:하늘만큼 땅만큼 As much as whole lands as well as skies.
 * A:그렇게 많이? So much as?
 * B:그럼 넌 부모님을 얼만큼 사랑하는 데? And How much do you like your parents?
 * A:그거야 헤아릴 수 없지 It's so much that couldn't be weighed.

B: 그럼 너는 ? i'm you?

 * 어휘
 * 만큼 : as much as
 * 하늘 : sky
 * 땅 : earth, ground
 * 부모 : parent
 * 헤아리다 : consider: weigh(=재다;measure)

 * 유용 표현
 * 하늘만큼 땅만큼 : very very much

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Movie Making Manual/Super 8mm Film

This Module is part of the Movie Making Manual wikibook

Taken from wikipedia as starting point...please edit to make more relevant to filmmakers....

Super 8mm film is a motion picture film format that was developed in the 1960s by Eastman Kodak as an improvement of the older 8mm home movie format. The film, 8mm wide, comes in plastic cartridges containing a 50-foot reel (about 3 minutes, depending on the film speed). Color stocks were available only in tungsten (3200K), and cameras were required to come with a built-in daylight filter, allowing for both indoor and outdoor shooting.

Amateur usage of Super 8 has been largely replaced by video, but the format is sometimes used by professionals trying to imitate the look of old home movies, or create a stylishly grainy look. Many independent filmmakers such as Derek Jarman have made extensive use of 8mm film with remarkable results, and it appears to have made something of a minor comeback in both the art and experimental film world. Oliver Stone, for example, loves to use it in his more recent films, such as The Doors Natural Born Killers, Nixon, U Turn, and JFK where his DP Robert Richardson employed it to evoke period or to give a different look to setups within a scene.

Until 1999, the University of Southern California's famous School of Cinema-Television required students to shoot their initial projects using Super 8, but the dwindling availability of equipment and processing facilities eventually forced the school to switch these classes to Digital Video. However the film is still used elsewhere by film students who wish to learn the basics of shooting film.

Super 8 is supplied in a light proof cartridge, the design of which allows it to be inserted into a camera without directly threading the film, which made the format even more user-friendly.

Kodak (as of 2004) still manufactures several color and black-and-white Super 8 films, and even introduced new emulsions since year 2002. The most popular Kodak stocks usually have been either Kodachrome or Ektachrome, and usually tend to be quite slow, usually around ISO 25, although there are known stocks that go up to ISO 100 and higher.

The Japanese company Fuji produced another variant called Single 8. The film was exactly the same as Super 8, but used a different design of magazine.

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Manigram

Manigram (also spelled Monigram) is a village and a gram panchayat in the Sagardighi CD block in the Jangipur subdivision of Murshidabad district in the state of West Bengal, India.

Location
Manigram is located at 24.3537°N, 88.1142°W.

Villages in Monigram gram panchayat are: Arazi Balarambati, Balarambati, Bhumihar, Chandpara, Dogachhi, Harirampur, Hatpara, Kantanagar, Karala, Kherur, Kismatgadi and Manigram.

Area overview
Jangipur subdivision is crowded with 52 census towns and as such it had to be presented in two location maps. One of the maps can be seen alongside. The subdivision is located in the Rarh region that is spread over from adjoining Santhal Pargana division of Jharkhand. The land is slightly higher in altitude than the surrounding plains and is gently undulating. The river Ganges, along with its distributaries, is prominent in both the maps. At the head of the subdivision is the 2,245 m long Farakka Barrage, one of the largest projects of its kind in the country. Murshidabad district shares with Bangladesh a porous international border which is notoriously crime prone (partly shown in this map). The subdivision has two large power plants - the 2,100 MW Farakka Super Thermal Power Station and the 1,600 MW Sagardighi Thermal Power Station. According to a 2016 report, there are around 1,000,000 (1 million/ ten lakh) workers engaged in the beedi industry in Jangipur subdivision. 90% are home-based and 70% of the home-based workers are women. As of 2013, an estimated 2.4 million people reside along the banks of the Ganges alone in Murshidabad district. Severe erosion occurs along the banks.

Note: The two maps present some of the notable locations in the subdivision. All places marked in the maps are linked in the larger full screen maps.

Demographics
According to the 2011 Census of India, Manigram had a total population of 4,162, of which 2,124 (51%) were males and 2,038 (49%) were females. Population in the age range 0–6 years was 535. The total number of literates in Manigram was 2,378 (65.56% of the population over 6 years).

Sagardighi Thermal Power Station
The Sagardighi Thermal Power Station of West Bengal Power Development Corporation, at Manigram, initially had a capacity of 2 x 300 MW, commissioned in 2008. It was subsequently expanded by 2 x 500 MW. The expansion units were commissioned in 2015 and 2017

Transport
Manigram railway station is a situated on the Barharwa-Azimganj-Katwa loop line.

Education

 * Sagardighi Teachers’ Training College was established at Manigram in 2009. Affiliated with the University of Kalyani, it offers B Ed and D El Ed courses.
 * Karaiya High School at Manigram was established in 1943 at Manigram. It is a Bengali medium coeducational school teaching from class VI to XII.
 * Sagardighi Thermal Power School was established at Manigram in 2009. It is a coeducation institution with Bengali and English medium. It has classes from V to XII.
 * Don Bosco English Medium School Monigram was established at Manigram in 2005.

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Talk:Japanese cruiser Takao (1930)

BBC News items
Possibly useful as sources

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/liverpool/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9136000/9136335.stm http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-11641409

--Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Length overall vs. waterline length.
Seeing as how the stern is vertical, and the bow is just about the same, how is it possible that the Takao's overall length is over 40' longer than it's waterline length? I can't believe that that bow juts out 40ft over the water. It isn't possible. I'm guessing that the measurement given as waterline is actually Length between perpendiculars or some such thing..45Colt 18:29, 24 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by .45Colt (talk • contribs)

date of final demise ?
"On 27 October, Takao was towed to the Straits of Malacca on 21 September and was sunk as a target ship". huh ? will somebody please clean this up. Rcbutcher (talk) 11:18, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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Jagatpur, Barhara

Jagatpur is a village in Barhara block of Bhojpur district in Bihar, India. As of 2011, its population was 1,975, in 314 households.

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2018 McDonald's All-American Boys Game

The 2018 McDonald's All-American Boys Game was an All-star basketball game that was played on Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at the Philips Arena in Atlanta, Georgia, home of the Atlanta Hawks. The game's rosters featured the best and most highly recruited high school boys graduating in 2018. The game is the 41st annual version of the McDonald's All-American Game first played in 1977.

The 24 players were selected from 2,500 nominees by a committee of basketball experts. They were chosen not only for their on-court skills but for their performances off the court as well. Coach Morgan Wootten, who had more than 1,200 wins as head basketball coach at DeMatha Catholic High School, was chairman of the selection committee.

Rosters
When the rosters were announced on January 16, 2018, Duke, Kansas and Kentucky had three selectees, while Oregon, North Carolina, and Vanderbilt each had two. At the announcement of roster selections, only 10 schools were represented and had 6 players uncommitted. On Jan. 20, Zion Williamson committed to Duke, giving them four selections which gave them most of any school. On Jan. 22, Moses Brown committed to UCLA which brought the total number of schools to 11. John Mirabello (Northwest Catholic High School, West Hartford, Conn.) and Brad Lauwers (A.J. Dimond High School, Anchorage, Alaska) coached the East and West teams, respectively.

Team West
† On March 29, Darius Bazley withdrew from his commitment to Syracuse in order to compete in the NBA G League (via entering his name in the 2018 NBA G League Draft) to prepare for the 2019 NBA draft.

 * ^undecided at the time of roster selection
 * ~undecided at game time

Reference

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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music/Archive 60

Category:Compositions with natural trumpets in D major
A discussion to delete this category has led to a lengthy disucssion, inculding numerous proposals and counterproposals. Editors may wish to comment on some or all of these in one way or another. For convenience I have appended to the discussion a summary of the proposals to date.--Smerus (talk) 09:11, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Categories:Compositions in [Key]
All categories of the form 'Compositions in [Key]' (e.g. Category:Compositions in A major, etc.) fail WP:TRIVIALCAT. The rules for categories state clearly "A central concept used in categorising articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having—such as nationality or notable profession (in the case of people), type of location or region (in the case of places), etc." The fact that pieces are in the same key does not meet this criterion. There seems nothing intrinsic uniting various pieces of music that have the same key signature. There are no reputable secondary sources, reference books or articles on 'pieces in [key]' (as far as I am aware). WP:TRIVIALCAT gives as examples of trivial categories 'Red haired kings, Bald People, Famous redheads, Age of death, Mirrors in fiction.' 'Compositions in [Key]' is exactly in this class of trivia - it is the same as would be, e.g. 'Red pictures' or 'Books beginning with the letter J'. I would like therefore to refer these categories to CfD for deletion. Really it seems they are just cruft. Comments welcome, please, before I do (or don't, depending on the strength of response here).--Smerus (talk) 19:29, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * PS the subcategories 'Jazz compositions in [key]' are even more bizarre - many of the articles do not mention keys, often the comment in the article is of the order of the following (completely unsourced) in Autumn Leaves (song) - " It was originally, and is most commonly, performed in the key of E minor, but is also played in G minor and other keys. Eva Cassidy's version (clip on the right) is played in B-flat minor." The article is listed in both the G minor and E minor categories.--Smerus (talk) 19:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

 * Agreed. Having recently been introduced to and begun editing in Wikidata, the realization came to me that 1) most WP categories are unnecessary because they can be done more efficiently by Wikidata; 2) you *can* search by key using Wikidata. kosboot (talk) 19:42, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

 * Mass in B minor? Symphony in C (Stravinsky) and Symphony in E-flat (Stravinsky)? For some article topics the key signature is defining, in the categorization sense. For comparison, see WP:NCM, first paragraph. The overcategorization is not in the existence of the "...in [Key]" categories, but in applying it too easily to compositions that are hardly ever mentioned by their key signature. --Francis Schonken (talk) 21:24, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

 * I'm ambivalent on this one. Here's what I could think of.

 * In the 18th century, some people believed that there are expressive traits attached to particular keys; see this for a quick peek. The musicologist Rita Steblin wrote a whole book about this topic . The particular case of Beethoven and C minor is vaguely famous; various people have weighed in for some kind of association. In the days before equal temperament won out, the various keys when played on keyboard instruments possessed particular timbres, based on which intervals were more discordant. Some instruments sound better played in certain keys (like the violin, for which music is often written in its open-string keys). And for many instruments, certain keys are easier to play in than others and thus get chosen for use in concertos and other solo pieces. These are all reasons why the key of a piece is not totally arbitrary.

 * Should "Compositions in X major/minor" therefore be a category? I'm not sure.  I've certainly seen more trivial categories on WP, though maybe that doesn't count as an argument.  Opus33 (talk) 22:57, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

 * My view is much more pragmatic: if the categories are useful to some readers, why not have them? I vaguely remember that this has been discussed before, and it's more interesting to see that Barber's Agnus Dei is in B-flat minor than some composition which carries its key openly in the common name. Needless to say that the category should not be applied to songs, frequently transposed. However, for Traum durch die Dämmerung, I bet the key was meaningfully chosen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:17, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with Smerus that these categories can be irrelevant and trivial in some cases, and with Francis, Opus33 and Gerda that they can be highly defining and significant in others. As for Wikidata: I suspect that its data set is a closed book and inaccessible to most Wikipedia readers; more importantly, there's no editorial control over its content. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

 * On some of the points raised so far: I think Francis Schonken is not quite on the point. If he, or any other individual, thinks that he identifies two or more different pieces by different composers as somehow belonging together just because they are in the same key, that's WP:POV and doesn't justify making a category. No one of course is suggesting that Mass in B minor, Symphony in C (Stravinsky), etc. should be renamed. The question is simply how can a category be justified. The 'B minorness' of all pieces of music in that key is not attested to by reliable secondary sources as a quality which has encyclopaedic validity. , you write "if the categories are useful to some readers"...but there is no evidence that they are useful (only evidence that some people enjoy crufting articles with pointless categories). If you want to know the key of Barber's Agnus Dei, you look up the article, you don't trawl through 24 categories until you find it. Opus33, if "people believed that there are expressive traits attached to particular keys", then those beliefs can be adumbrated (and cited) in the articles relating to those keys. That doesn't however in itself justify the category.  You seem to accept that lumping together everything in a key doesn't make a useful category; the problem is that deciding for which eligible articles a category might be useful and in which cases not is always going to be a matter of WP:POV (unless you can provide a reliable secondary source for your judgement); this would seem by WP standards to render these categories unacceptable.--Smerus (talk) 03:53, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

 * (1) I agree with Gerda - someone might find this category useful, and it costs nothing to have it. Suppose someone wants to do some research about violin pieces in D♭ major (in fact, an interesting subject in itself!)? Smerus, just because you find this trivial doesn't mean that others also don't. (2) I agree with Opus33 that the category itself is essentially nontrivial. (3) In principle, I disagree with the guideline in this matter that trivial categories should be deleted. I dream of the day - not so far away - that we can make natural language queries of the Wikipedia. Like, "Show me all the musicians born in Bohemia who lived in Vienna between the years 1900 to 1914." For the time being, we can't do that, and the closest thing we have so far is categories. Every category, no matter how hairbrained, will possibly help some researcher do cross-sectioning in surprising and possibly significant ways. So I say - leave 'em. --Ravpapa (talk) 06:18, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

(from Mass for the Dresden court (Bach):) "(in 18th century Saxony) D major (...) was the most usual key for festive music including trumpets, because of the Saxon natural trumpet ..."

--Francis Schonken (talk) 07:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I added this example in order to illustrate that key signatures don't always follow from a subjective appreciation of "inherent" qualities of a key. Sometimes it's just practical (but no less defining in a Wikipedia sense, see further discussion below). --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:39, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Just started Category:Compositions with natural trumpets in D major --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

OK I will leave well enough alone :-). Thanks to all for the discussion.--Smerus (talk) 09:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That's not what happened, see Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_January_24 --Francis Schonken (talk) 07:58, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:CATDEF vs. WP:TRIVIALCAT
From WP:CATDEF: "...A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having..."

For some compositions the key signature is a "characteristic ... that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having", e.g. Symphony in E-flat (Stravinsky), Mass in B minor, Piano Sonata in A major, D 664 (Schubert).

For other compositions the key signature is almost never mentioned, as a rule, e.g. the key signature of most operas is not even listed anywhere.

No WP:OR is needed to interpret "why" reliable sources commonly and consistently define a subject having a certain characteristic. Are these reliable sources discussing trivialities? Are they plainly wrong in giving any attention to the fact that Carravaggio is Italian? Do such qualifications have a merely esoterical meaning? – not for Wikipedians to decide: "commonly and consistently" in the prose of reliable sources mandates categorization in Wikipedia, that's the rule.

WP:TRIVIALCAT (one of the instances of WP:OVERCATEGORIZATION) on the other hand lists characteristics of subjects that are not what "reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having", but "characteristics that are unrelated or wholly peripheral to the topic's notability." Being in B minor is not "unrelated or wholly peripheral to the ... notability" of the Mass in B minor. Exploring Bach's B-minor Mass has pages and pages discussing key signatures of Masses in all kinds of contexts. So, not trivial, subject of serious scholarly study.

Above I wrote: I stand by that.

As for viable subcategories of the "...in [Key]" categories, I stand by e.g. Category:Compositions with natural trumpets in C, for which there are sources like Exploring Bach's B-minor Mass (p. 236), The Cambridge Mozart Encyclopedia (p. 271-272). I don't say having "natural trumpets in C" is the most common way to refer to the compositions cited in these sources (K. 220, K. 262, K. 257, K. 258, K. 259, Missa Cellensis,...), but a viable subcategory of Category:Compositions in C major when that category becomes too big (there's nothing irregular about splitting large categories based on secondary characteristics).

Whether Category:Jazz compositions in C major is another of such useful splits I can't say, I'm less acquainted with that topic area. --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:39, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Template:Sergei Prokofiev
Hello. In Template:Sergei Prokofiev, the links to Prokofiev's piano concertos and piano sonatas are missing. When I try to edit the table by pressing "E", they are there, but they do not display when the table is shown on an article (for example, on Sergei Prokofiev). The table only displays Prokofiev's "other" (non-piano) concertos and his "other" (non-sonata) piano solo works. I'm afraid I don't know how to fix it without messing it all up. Would anyone be able to help? Thank you. Syek88 (talk) 10:08, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * For templates, it sometimes seems to take some time to show the corrected way, seems to have to do with cashed versions. You probably fixed it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't edit it to try to fix the problem, though (other than an unrelated edit for his Sonata for Two Violins). I expect that the table has been like this for some time. I don't know how to fix it all - it's all gobbledygook to me! Syek88 (talk) 10:15, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I saw now, it's a problem with the subgroups, - I fixed it for now, showing all together, - will look and learn what's wrong, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Syek88 (talk) 10:31, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I through out all styling efforts, now it works. We would have two more groups available, in case we don't want subgroups. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:40, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Khatia Buniatishvili COI editing?
Looks like a PR piece, written by a succession of single use/single article accounts. - Pianosoon (talk) 10:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * not only that, but the photo is suspect. It seems the same photo was already once deleted as without copyright permission. It was then reuploaded by a user claiming it was their own work - and remains the user's only upload to WikiCommons.--Smerus (talk) 12:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The article is written mainly by two users, Eka-eka-eka92 in 2013 and SamSClassical in 2014, neither of whom (if they are different people) has bothered to register. To me this looks like hired work.  I'm not sure what one can do about this, other than point out that many of those sources are suspect (certainly not the performer's website). kosboot (talk) 12:36, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I was quite alarmed to see the selective collection of reviews of Buniatishvili's recordings, inaccurately representing the critical response. Consequently, I have inserted into the article some stark contrary opinions from Gramophone, which I felt were necessary to balance the cherry-picked praise. There are other scathing reviews too - http://www.dallasnews.com/entertainment/columnists/scott-cantrell/20140408-review-pianist-khatia-buniatishvili-was-all-about-self-indulgence.ece and http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/classicalconcertreviews/10878171/Khatia-Buniatishvili-Queen-Elizabeth-Hall-review-sorely-disappointing.html Syek88 (talk) 07:21, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's any mileage in looking for paid editing. The article is promotional in tone and needs clean-up, but there are enough sources, even ignoring the primary ones, to indicate notability., I think you're misread the article's history. Eka-eka-eka92' edits (diff) are entirely to do with pictures. SamSClassical's (diff) are more extensive, but the article was already at 10,394 bytes before he started, and he actually reduced its size, for example, removing the crufty paragraph that began "Performances are available via social networking sites". I've tagged it Peacock and Copyedit (for=tone). --Stfg (talk) 14:27, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The subject is clearly notable. I have a feeling the article was promotion from the very outset.  Some sources on her 2014 London performances. Pianosoon (talk) 16:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Ji Liu (pianist)
Alerted on my talk by DJRafe, who Ji Liu (pianist), I reverted once and went to the talk, but it needs more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Symphony No. [X] pages
See discussion I initiated at Template talk:Symphonies by number and name. --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:15, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Spam?
Take a look, if you will, at this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Morriskahn. I wonder if the many books all published by the same publisher are each legitimate references source in context, or whether we are perhaps being used by a publisher as a free advertising platform. I don't know the books myself so I am not sure; maybe someone else has better information? Thanks, Opus33 (talk) 19:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I spotted that too. The publisher is Kahn and Averill. A week or so ago I reported User:Kahn and Averill at UAA and it was blocked as a spam account. Will look into this one now. --Stfg (talk) 20:08, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, this account is doing nothing but adding books from that publisher to articles. --Stfg (talk) 20:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Advice taken and SPI raised. --Stfg (talk) 00:35, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I see from here that Morris Kahn was a founder of Kahn and Averill. I also see that he died in 2014 so he's either editing from the grave or someone is impersonating him. --Deskford (talk) 01:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. What is SPI?  Opus33 (talk) 04:10, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * SPI = Sockpuppet investigations, e.g. Sockpuppet_investigations/Kahn_and_Averill. Looking through the links, at least some of the books appear to be useful and appropriate as "further reading", but there's an obvious conflict of interest as the publishing house is adding links to their own publications. Antandrus  (talk) 04:27, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, this, for example, is a good addition. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 07:44, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Kahn & Averill is an excellent music publisher, from what I've seen. In most cases, their books have definitely place in our articles, as sources or "further reading". To me, it's hard to call their editing "spamming". --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 07:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

The books listed in biographical articles under a "Writings" section which were written by the subject are fine. A few of the "Further reading" ones are useful, but most are not, e.g.  Mozart and the Pianist added to Mozart, which is essentially a guide for pianists on how to play Mozart's piano music. They are never appropriate to be added as "Sources" or "References", unless they have been actually used as such. Yes, this is spam, regardless of the worth of the publishing house, and no doubt prompted by the fact that they have just launched their new website. I'm going to leave him a note saying that given the obvious COI, he needs to suggest additions on article talk pages and let uninvolved editors assess whether they are worth adding. Interestingly the new name he appears to have chosen is Morris Kahn, the founder of the publishing house who died last year and apparently had no children. Not quite impersonation, but unless he's a nephew... well... Voceditenore (talk) 08:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ... he needs to suggest additions on article talk pages and let uninvolved editors assess whether they are worth adding is a sensible solution and a good advice for that account, I would say. Thanks. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:26, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, I take it back that a "Writings" section for books which were written by the subject is fine. Not exactly. What this user did was replace the information about the date and publisher of the first editions of the books with information solely about their reprint (often many years later) which is very misleading to the reader. See Pierre Bernac for example. I've since rectified that one. But their other changes to "Writings" sections need to be fixed if they haven't already been reverted. Voceditenore (talk) 10:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Your advice on their talk page is excellent, . Yesterday I went through the contributions and removed a few of them, including the graded guides for pianists. But it was difficult because, as says, many of the added books appear relevant and useful at first sight. In the end, I retained far more than I removed. But this is clearly spamming: this and the previous account did nothing except add listings of books published by this publishing house, and this one, for example, is blatantly a plug. I won't be removing any more of them myself, but would welcome another one or two pairs of eyes on this. --Stfg (talk) 11:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have to agree that linking newer and still available editions by an account connected to the publishing house is likely spamming. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 11:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm going to gradually check all their additions of "Writings" sections and restore or change the information to the first editions. I personally find using the OCLC template much more useful than ISBN for situations like this. An OCLC number takes you directly to the WorldCat entry which allows you to view all the editions and formats of a particular work with their dates and publishers. ISBN is basically a commercial book identifier, and in my view can be appropriate for indicating the specific edition of book used in a reference, but not much else. Voceditenore (talk) 11:40, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to add that I've also noticed User:Morriskahn adding entries for Kahn & Averill publications. Perhaps someone should block him? kosboot (talk) 13:53, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * kosboot, User:Morriskahn is pretty obviously a sock of the already blocked User:Kahn and Averill. I imagine this cuurent incarnation will also be blocked following the SPI here. Voceditenore (talk) 14:06, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for showing that to me, VdT. kosboot (talk) 17:27, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Lidia Grychtołówna and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Lidia Grychtołówna
Dear classical music experts: A draft has been created about this pianist, but there is already a small existing article. I could do a content merge, but both the draft and the mainspace article seem short of independent sources. I haven't found much in English. I am willing to content-merge these two pages, but only if this is a notable pianist. Any opinions?—Anne Delong (talk) 03:06, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

 * The place to look would be whether the listed recordings are on major labels. But the AFC is virtually a copy-paste of her page on the Fryderyk Chopin Institute site, and it's distinctly puffy, so it needs much more than a basic merge. --Stfg (talk) 09:53, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

 * I guess I will leave it then; if the subject isn't notable, maybe the mainspace article needs an AfD. Sorry, I don't know much about record labels, so I'd have to depend on someone else to do that kind of check.—Anne Delong (talk) 13:45, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I suspect all those recordings make her "notable" in the WP sense, so I won't be doing anything with the mainspace article, but why not go ahead with the G13 of the AFC, since it qualifies for that and moreover is almost entirely close paraphrase. --Stfg (talk) 15:25, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's done. Thanks! —Anne Delong (talk) 16:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Lost musical works
Is there a WP article/list of musical works which are known to have existed but are lost? (I'm posting this also at WP:Opera). kosboot (talk) 18:43, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

 * We have a category Category:Lost musical works, which contains a few items. And then of course Category:Lost operas. Antandrus  (talk) 18:59, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: can I just briefly say waaaa! at this point? Thank you. DBaK (talk) 00:12, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This discussion has taken off nicely at WikiProject Opera so I'll be focusing my efforts there for a while. kosboot (talk) 12:02, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Following on from DBaK, can we say that the work in question is 'lost'? Perhaps we need a new category, Category:Putative musical works? Just saying.--Smerus (talk) 18:34, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting resource (courtesy of MLA-L) for someone to file away in their sandbox until the right time comes along: Rudolf A. Rasch, "How Much Is Lost, or Do We Know What We Don’t Know? Observations on the Loss of Printed Music from the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries," Album amicorum Albert Dunning in occasion del suo LXV compleanno, a cura di Giacomo Fornari (Turnhout: Brepols, 2002), 461-94. kosboot (talk) 17:30, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Another commercial plugger (sigh...)
or perhaps just a confirmed clutterer...Special:Contributions/Piano_au.....--Smerus (talk) 16:31, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Zapped by me and MarnetteD. The site has no ads and does not appear to be selling anything either, but that doesn't make it an appropriate external link. I find that in general classical music articles tend to attract way too many external links which serve no encyclopedic purpose at all and their External links sections get turned into web directories. I removed a couple of others in addition to the ones you highlighted. But the articles for all the major composers still need a lot of pruning of their External links sections. The bigger they are and the more they're filled with links that do not pass WP:EL, the more they attract Voceditenore (talk) 16:59, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Notability help
Hello all! Could I get an opinion here? Appreciated, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 18:20, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm too impatient, but I don't want to spend five minutes trying to untangle acronyms and implied reasoning. Could you tell us specifically what are you asking for help on? kosboot (talk) 20:05, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi kosboot. FoCuS is wondering if anyone has any knowledge about or sources for the US-based firm Benning Violins or its founder, Paul Toenniges. There seems to be some stuff in specialist music/instrument journals, but they're only viewable as snippets on Google. The conversation is on my talk page at User talk:Voceditenore. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:06, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. Thanks for the help, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 18:00, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

New Grove access anyone?
A bit bizarre to see Imrat Khan, the world's leading classical sitar and surbahar player, nominated for deletion, but the article is very poorly referenced. Could anyone with access to New Grove please make reference to his article there? I have no access to Grove, and have only seen his article referred to in a third-party source. --Deskford (talk) 17:19, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The AfD has been withdrawn, but it would still be good to have the Grove reference. --Deskford (talk) 17:26, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * has added it. --Stfg (talk) 19:43, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * So I see – thanks Voceditenore! I've tried to add a bit more but am finding it surprisingly difficult to find reliable sources online. --Deskford (talk) 20:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

FYI (Re: Michael Haydn Hoaxes)
There's a discussion on an external forum (here) regarding edits to the articles about compositions by Michael Haydn. It might be interesting for the members of this project and mainly for User:DavidRF who did a lot of good work in this area. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 15:30, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I was an editor more for Joseph Haydn than for Michael. Works by a second-tier composer like Michael Haydn would be a relatively easy place to inject hoax-comments such as the ones above. Few would question the noteworthiness of articles for works by Michael Haydn, but few would also have the expertise to seriously critique these.  And few people are going to read these articles that carefully as well.  Hoaxes are more quickly caught in higher-traffic articles.  As for the "Emperor Palpatine" hoax, that title is actually close to "Elector Palatine" which was a real thing.  A clever way to insert an outrageous hoax that a history buff might skim over without noticing.

 * Another Michael Haydn twist was that most of these articles were created and originally maintained by User:Anton Mravcek who turned out to be a sockpuppet of Dmetric in one of the biggest sockpuppet farms I've heard about on Wikipedia. It was a really strange time.  All of this interest in the Haydn brothers and a lot of it turned out the be the same guy.  Most of the posts seemed well-meaning (they guy did like Michael Haydn!) but when the sock farm is that large, it certainly lowers the trustworthiness of the edits.  Anyhow, perhaps editors like James470 or other "schizophrenic" (often well-meaning but often crazy) like User:Willi Gers07 may have been other incarnations of Dmetric as well.  I don't know.DavidRF (talk) 04:23, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your hint regarding Dmetric, David. Follow the link, there's an interesting development, I would say. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 17:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Looks like all the bad stuff is at least 3 years old. None of the offending editors appear to be around anymore.  All the discussions on the ease of subtle vandalism on low-traffic pages have been had, so not much to do besides fix things and move on.DavidRF (talk) 21:11, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

 * James470, Incarnatus, Detroit Joe, and a whole bunch of others are Dmetric. I keep a list offline. Antandrus  (talk) 01:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Steinway
Sone time ago there was a notice here about a pianist's page being edited by a marketer. I have discovered something much graver: an editor, likely to be a PR operative, whitewashing Steinway & Sons. This should be of concern to classical music lovers. There is a discussion at Talk:Steinway & Sons. Syek88 (talk) 02:22, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Lea Luboshutz
Could we get Draft:Lea Luboshutz into the mainspace? It seems like she is almost certainly notable. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:52, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The phrase establishing notability in the lede ("...one of the first female classical musicians with an international touring career") seems a bit dubious to me. First, I think many (female) opera singers had had international careers by then, second it has hardly been established whether the concerts she gave as an instrumental soloist (especially the "international" ones) were noticed in terms of press reviews etc. Can concrete sources be given to support such content? I'll add a OR to the draft for now where I think it is due, I suppose you're in the clear once an adequate reference can be given.
 * Re. "a subject doesn't need to be verified, just "verifiable"" – True, but "verifiable" implies it can be verified without much ado. Not much use to insert something in mainspace that once a first verification is attempted (or even before) goes AfD-ways. --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:56, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Good points. I agree. Well, let's hope something at google books can be found to show notability. Many thanks for the feedback. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:12, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The following is a brief entry from the 1973 Biographical Dictionary of American Music: "LUBOSHUTZ, LEA b. 1887 Odessa, Russia, d. 1965. Violinist and teacher. Sister of Pierre Luboshutz and mother of Boris Goldovsky; studied at Moscow Conservatory; soloist with orchestras in Europe and U.S., then became a teacher at Curtis Institute of Music, Philadelphia." She is also known as Lea Luboschutz, and it is under that spelling that there is considerable information on the internet. For example, it was under that spelling of her name that she performed the Prok-Violin-1 with the Boston Symphony Orchestra in 1928: http://worldcat.org/digitalarchive/content/server15982.contentdm.oclc.org/BSYMO/PROG/TRUSVolume6/Pub411_1937-1938_Trip_SandCam_Con01.pdf. A concert performance with a major metropolitan orchestra is no trivial matter. Syek88 (talk) 10:12, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The effort needed to prep the draft for mainspace inclusion seems minimal then... any takers? --Francis Schonken (talk) 10:29, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * So, mainspace it? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:53, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Update
The AfC was declined again with "The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations." because the article had only 6 inline citations and 6 non-inline.

Will someone who knows classical music make a bold decision to approve this article and move it to the mainspace? If not, this draft will eventually be deleted. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

 * Done. Thank you, DGG. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:28, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

 * btw, although she is clearly notable, the condition for moving a draft into mainspace is merely that it would be likely to be approved at AfD, not certainly approved. I'll usually move anything I think has a 80% chance--other people's standards vary. The principle behind this is that no one person should be a barrier.  DGG ( talk ) 14:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/Missing articles:Bach Cantatas site
Greetings all. I've started this. Help completing the list and starting missing articles would be very much appreciated. Something worthy to work towards gradually...♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:00, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

 * The way it's phrased there makes it appear as if you're asking for assistance with that web site. I assume instead you mean that the Wikipedia articles, currently redlinked, are what you're after? --Stfg (talk) 17:09, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Isn't it kinda obvious I'm drawing up a missing list of articles?♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:45, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Isn't it kinda obvious that it isn't kinda obvious? That's why I asked. "what is missing in the wider context on the Bach Cantatas website" seems to refer to what is missing in the wider context on the Bach Cantatas website. --Stfg (talk) 21:11, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, we're on here to build wikipedia not the Bach cantatas website :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:40, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed :) --Stfg (talk) 09:07, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Good approach. I wonder if we can show - perhaps in a different colour or by a letter - if the term in question has already a red link in our article space. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Rondo in B minor for violin and piano, D 895 (Schubert) - Copy-paste?
I was reading the above mentioned article (I also made edits anonymously on 25/26 April after forgetting my password.) and it reads like a straight transcription from a program note rather than a paraphrase of one. I don't have a copy of the program note given as the only source ("Carnegie Hall program booklet, March 18, 1997.") to check this out so I was wondering if anyone can help with checking this as not all program notes are online. Graham1973 (talk) 04:29, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree it reads exactly like a transcription. It's also effectively WP:ESSAY and none of the assertions are individually cited to an acceptable source. Obviously whoever wrote the original programme note had a lot of space to fill! Maybe the best thing is simply to edit it all down to a couple of straightforward paragraphs, which is as  much as the topic deserves.--Smerus (talk) 06:34, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually looking at other articles created by User:BFolkman he appears to make a habit of transcribing large chunks of programme notes (e.g. Don Quichotte à Dulcinée), - and moreover from his recent edit at Oboe Concerto (Strauss) Mr. Folkman appears to be a programme-note writer himself - so one doesn't have to be a Sherlock to guess where the article is from. Can we politely address the editor on this? I have pinged him on the rondo talk page.--Smerus (talk) 06:43, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * In the absence of any response, I have now edited the page down.--Smerus (talk) 19:58, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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New article by newbie needing help
Hi all. This article on conductor Stephen Simon was just created by an inexperienced editor. Some help with reference formatting, categories, copy editing etc. is needed if any of you have time.4meter4 (talk) 22:24, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Added him to Simon (surname) to be getting along with. Narky Blert (talk) 02:39, 7 May 2015 (UTC)


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Anish Koshy Eapen (1981 - Present) was born to Dr. Koshy Eapen and Dr. Annie Eapen on the 15th of July, 1981 at Trivandrum in the state of Kerala in India.

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Contemporary Aesthetics (CA) is an international, interdisciplinary, blind- and peer-reviewed online journal of contemporary theory, research, and application in aesthetics. Contemporary Aesthetics began publication in 2003. Contemporary Aesthetics Inc. is incorporated in the State of Maine, USA, and is licensed as an Exempt Charitable Organization.

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“In recent years aesthetics has grown into a rich and varied discipline. Its scope has widened to embrace ethical, social, religious, environmental, and cultural concerns. As international communication increases through more frequent congresses and electronic communication, varied traditions have joined with its historically interdisciplinary character, making aesthetics a focal center of diverse and multiple interests."

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Wing and a Prayer, The Story of Carrier X

Wing and a Prayer, The Story of Carrier X (also known as Queen of the Flat Tops  and Torpedo Squadron Eight) is a black-and-white 1944 war film about the heroic crew of an American aircraft carrier in the desperate early days of World War II in the Pacific theater, directed by Henry Hathaway and starring Don Ameche, Dana Andrews and William Eythe. Although arguably a classic propaganda movie, it was appreciated for its realistic portrayal and was nominated for the 1944 Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay.

The film title Wing and a Prayer was borrowed from a number one hit song in 1943, "Comin' In on a Wing and a Prayer". In a bit of studio self-promotion, the carrier crew watches another 20th Century Fox picture, Tin Pan Alley (1940), during the film.

Plot
In the days just after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the American people are asking "Where is our navy? Why doesn't it fight?" Gravely weakened by the disaster, the US Navy comes up with a plan to trap the Japanese by using one carrier to imitate a fleet in order to deceive the Japanese Navy into heading for Midway, where they will be attacked. Meanwhile, on the carrier charged with the mission ("Carrier X"), flight commander Bingo Harper is in charge of the bomber crews that shouldered the burden in the desperate early days of the war. He is tough and sticks to the rules, while his young pilots behave more like youngsters and do not always understand his thinking.

A new squadron led by Lieutenant Commander Edward Moulton is assigned to the carrier. From the first landing, Harper notices a careless and inexperienced attitude by ex-Hollywood Academy Award–winning star, Ensign Hallam "Oscar" Scott. Harper warns Moulton that the squadron's safety cannot be jeopardized and any repeat of the sloppiness will not be tolerated. Moulton does his best with his men, but is far from having absolute control. During a bombing run, Ensign Breinard drops a bomb close to the carrier and Harper grounds him. After winning the Navy Cross for actions at Coral Sea, Ensign Cunningham fails to follow the correct takeoff procedure and ditches his aircraft into the sea: Harper forbids him to fly again. Later, Cunningham saves the ship in a suicide attack on a torpedo from a Japanese aircraft.

In the meantime, a message is received from Navy headquarters. The carrier is ordered to travel deep into enemy waters, near the Solomon Islands, and make its presence known in order to deceive the Japanese about American fleet dispositions and intentions. However, they are under strict orders not to fight. When Moulton's bombers encounter some Japanese aircraft, they follow orders and retreat, but two aircraft are lost. Not knowing the plan, the pilots are furious. This is repeated several times in other widely-separated locations, driving the aviators to the brink of rebellion. The carrier, however, accomplishes its mission as the Japanese believe that the sightings are of different American carriers, not just one.

Finally, the long-prepared trap is sprung. Deceived into believing that the American carriers are scattered across the Pacific, the Japanese are taken by surprise when the concentrated American fleet attacks their carriers. Many pilots are lost, but the Americans win a great victory. However, the last bomber, flown by Scott and very low on fuel, has trouble finding their carrier, which is concealed below low clouds. Moulton begs Harper to break radio silence or turn on the searchlights to guide him in, but Harper refuses to risk betraying the carrier's location to any Japanese submarines that may be lurking nearby. Eventually, Scott's aircraft is heard crashing into the water when it runs out of fuel. Moulton and Harper quarrel, but in a few minutes, it is reported that Scott has been picked up by a destroyer. Harper gives his men an explanation of his reasoning when giving orders which may mean sacrificing a few for the success of the mission.

Cast

 * Don Ameche as Commander Bingo Harper
 * Dana Andrews as Lieutenant Commander Edward Moulton
 * William Eythe as Ensign Hallam "Oscar" Scott
 * Charles Bickford as Captain Waddell
 * Cedric Hardwicke as the Admiral
 * Kevin O'Shea as Ensign Charles "Cookie" Cunningham
 * Richard Jaeckel as Beezy Bessemer
 * Harry Morgan (credited as Henry Morgan) as Ensign Malcolm Brainard
 * Richard Crane as Ensign Gus Chisholm
 * Glenn Langan as the Executive Officer
 * Renny McEvoy as Ensign Cliff Hale
 * Robert Bailey as Ensign Paducah Holloway
 * Reed Hadley as Commander O'Donnell
 * John Kellogg as a Duty Officer
 * George Mathews as Dooley
 * B.S. Pully as Flat Top
 * John C. Young as Jeep driver
 * Ray Walker as Sailor assisting projectionist

Historical accuracy
Wing and a Prayer ... loosely portrays actual historic events related mainly with the Battle of the Coral Sea and the Battle of Midway. The scenario is, however, intentionally changed to justify the initial defensive rather than offensive posture of a US Navy reeling from the early Japanese victories in 1942. The Battle of the Coral Sea is justified as a calculated plot to deceive the Japanese into believing that the U.S. fleet was scattered and vulnerable, while the Battle of Midway is depicted as the eventual springing of this carefully laid trap which thereby caught the enemy at a disadvantage.

Production
Wing and a Prayer was based on Stanley Johnston’s Queen of the Flat Tops (1942), a book that 20th Century Fox tried to buy but the rights were not obtained. After a legal tangle, the studio dropped its plans to buy rights but Johnson sued and won a settlement in 1946.

Although some scenes were shot in studio back lots, and water tank, the carrier is the USS Yorktown, a typical Essex class, with filming by 20th Century Fox permitted by the US Navy during her shakedown cruise in 1943. The US Navy exacted control over the Wing and a Prayer to the extent that the film was a "semi-official" production.

The aircraft used in the Wing and a Prayer, The Story of Carrier X were mainly Grumman TBF Avenger torpedo bombers, Grumman F6F Hellcat fighters and Curtiss SB2C Helldiver dive bombers. These were contemporary with US Navy carrier aircraft designs during 1943 and 1944 rather than 1942 when the film is set. In a few scenes, Grumman F4F Wildcat fighters and Douglas SBD Dauntless dive bombers appear which would have been accurate for 1942.

Grumman F4F Wildcat fighters play the part of Japanese "Zero" fighters in the film. A Curtiss-Wright CW-22 also makes a very brief appearance as a Japanese reconnaissance aircraft. The action on the carrier deck is convincing as well as the character of the pilots. Real footage is mixed with action shot on the carrier. For some scenes, scale models were also utilized.

Reception
Film critic Thomas M. Pryor reviewed Wing and a Prayer, The Story of Carrier X for The New York Times. He commented: "at once a sobering reminder of the perilous conditions under which the American Navy sailed the vast Pacific in the months immediately following Pearl Harbor and a first-rate piece of movie-making to boot."


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marcio

Etymology 2
Derived ultimately from. Perhaps directly a deverbal of Italian.

Adjective

 * 1) rotten
 * 2) rotting
 * 3) festering
 * 4) corrupt

Noun

 * 1) the bad or rotten part of something

Etymology
From Classical, reassigned to the fourth conjugation. Attested from the sixth century CE.

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Indonesian/Lessons/This and that

^ Indonesian ^ | << Lesson 1: Greetings  | Lesson 2: This, That | Lesson 3: Pronouns >>

Arti Umum (General Meaning)
The word "ini" means "this" or "these".

The word "itu" means "that" or "those".

Penggunaan Pertama: Ini buku (First Usage: This [is a] book)
Contoh (Example):
 * Ini buku. ("This is a book" or "These are books")
 * Ini pensil. ("This is a pencil" or "These are pencils")
 * Itu apel. ("That is an apple" or "Those are apples")
 * Itu jeruk. ("That is an orange" or "Those are oranges")

From the examples above, you can see that there is no explicit word for "to be" as in English. It is already implied by the structure or the vocabulary used in the sentence.

In addition, when using a noun, the meaning can be either singular or plural. It depends on the context. When the context does not make it clear, the noun is assumed to be singular.

The reader might ask: If ini buku means this is a book while when naively translated sounds like "This book." Then how to say "this book" in Indonesian? Answer: buku ini. When learning Indonesian, or when Indonesian learning English, people usually realized that the order of words, especially adjective and noun, are usually swapped.

Penggunaan Kedua: Buku ini merah (Second Usage: This book [is] red)
Contoh (Example):
 * Buku ini merah . ("This book is red " or "These books are red ")
 * Apel ini hijau . ("This apple is green " or "These apples are green ")
 * Pensil itu hitam. ("That pencil is black" or "Those pencils are black")
 * Jeruk itu jingga . ("That orange is orange " or "Those oranges are orange ")

Notice the difference between the first pattern and the second one:
 * The first pattern is '(Ini/Itu) + Noun', which means 'This/That is/are Noun'.
 * The second pattern is 'Noun + (Ini/Itu) + Adjective', which means 'This/That Noun is/are Adjective'

Bentuk Negatif (Negative Form)
There are two words in Indonesian used to indicate negatives:
 * Bukan → Not, referring to nouns, pronouns, or states (it may be easiest to remember the meaning of bukan as "not a", since only nouns would follow "a" in English)
 * Tidak → Not, referring to adjectives or verbs

In some cases, we can use either bukan or tidak, but we'll discuss this later.

Contoh (Example):
 * Ini bukan buku. ("This is not a book" or "These are not books")
 * Ini bukan pensil. ("This is not a pencil" or "These are not pencils")
 * Itu bukan apel. ("That is not an apple" or "Those are not apples")
 * Itu bukan jeruk. ("That is not an orange" or "Those are not oranges")

Here, we use bukan, because we're negating the nouns. However, look at the following example:
 * Ini tidak benar. ("This is not right")

This time, we are negating the adjective "right". (Benar = right / correct)

Likewise, look at the following examples: Contoh (Example):
 * Buku ini tidak merah . ("This book is not red " or "These books are not red ")
 * Apel ini tidak hijau . ("This apple is not green " or "These apples are not green ")
 * Pensil itu tidak hitam. ("That pencil is not black" or "Those pencils not are black")
 * Jeruk itu tidak jingga . ("That orange is not orange " or "Those oranges are not orange ")

In these examples, we use tidak because this time we're negating the adjectives.

Bentuk Interogatif (Interrogative Form)
The word "apa" (= "what") can be used to form questions using "ini" or "itu".
 * Apa ini? ("What is/are this/these?")
 * Apa itu? ("What is/are that/those?")

Contoh (Example):
 * Q: Apa ini?
 * A: Ini buku.

You can use "apa ini" or "apa itu" to ask what something is called in Indonesian (by pointing to the object).

^ Indonesian ^ | << Lesson 1: Greetings  | Lesson 2: This, That | Lesson 3: Pronouns >>

Enseignement de l'indonésien/Leçons/Ceci et cela

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