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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 24

September 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 24, 2017.

Template:Image information
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) – Uanfala 23:07, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Template:Image information → Template:Information (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Image_information&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

 * Template:Imginfo → Template:Information (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Imginfo&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

unused, technically a misnomer since is used on other media files (e.g. audio, video) besides images   F ASTILY   21:11, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * 'Comment Template:Imginfo was moved to Template:Image information by its original and at that point only author, user:Hurricane Devon, about 27 hours after creation in April 2006 (Hurricane Devon was indeffed for repeated copyright violations in July 2006). The template was nominated for deletion later in July 2006 (no consensus) and then redirected to the present target following a second TfD in January 2008. Other than a trivial tweak by a bot in 2009, the redirect has remained untouched since. It was linked to by Masem in a December 2012 discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 23:54, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * keep as harmless and because deletion risks breaking old revisions of image pages that use (and any that are broken risk getting incorrectly speedy deleted as having no license). The target being used on non-image media doesn't mean this redirect misrepresents anything (a redirect in the opposite direction would though) and it may be easier for some people to remember the name of (it's certainly not illogical if you're media is an image). It looks like AWB might be bypassing this redirect, if so the lack of what links here entries does not necessarily mean a lack of uses, and a page view is only registered if someone actually looks at the redirect page (transcluding a redirect does register in the stats). Thryduulf (talk) 23:54, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. The redirects guide the editor/reader to the template they may be trying to locate. (In fact, if anything, Template:Information should probably be moved to a more precise title, but since the template has been at this title for several years and has several transclusions, I have no desire to propose such a move.) Steel1943  (talk) 18:23, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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Marina and the Diamonds (Self-Titled)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Marina and the Diamonds (Self-Titled) → Marina and the Diamonds (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marina_and_the_Diamonds_(Self-Titled)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Implausible search term as the album doesn't exist, never did exist and nobody except the creator of the initial "article" thought it did. Created as an unreferenced article in 2014, was given a speedy delete tag for being a hoax. This tag was removed because there "wasn't any evidence that it was a hoax", a rationale that sounds like a bad parody of Russell's teapot. F, root (talk) 20:28, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; this was the case when the article was created as well, which ultimately led to this redirect. No proof of existence. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 20:36, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No eponymous albums or EPs by the artist, and wouldn't use this format anyway unless the media is called Self-Titled and Marina was one of the songs or characters in it. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:53, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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Aqua Marina (album)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Aqua Marina (album) → Marina and the Diamonds (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aqua_Marina_(album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. The purpose of this redirect is a common one, to redirect to an artist's page before a new album is released. The problem is this isn't confirmed by ANY reasonable source to be the title of the new album. Only a few random Twitter accounts have suggested or guessed that it's the title. If there was tons and tons of hype about this name I could agree with a premature redirect, but that's not the case F, root (talk) 20:06, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 19:51, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Searches for this title reveal non-notable bands. Several songs listed as "Aqua Marina" including a b-side for The Tornados and the ending theme to Stingray (1964 TV series), so that could be a dab. If it does become Marina and the Diamonds's next album title, it should claim primary topic easily. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:40, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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Ray Parker, Jr. - Ghostbusters
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Ray Parker, Jr. - Ghostbusters → Ghostbusters (song) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ray_Parker,_Jr._-_Ghostbusters&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely, unused, and unneeded redirect with poor content, structure, and styling, contrary to MOS:JR and MOS:DASH. Dicklyon (talk) 17:53, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. The redirect got 835 views last year (including a spike of almost 50 one day) so it is neither unused nor unneeded - given these figures I suspect that it has links from outside Wikipedia and/or this is how the song is listed on an album or discography somewhere. We include redirects from stylings that our guidelines discourage because we cannot expect readers to know what they are, let alone be familiar with them and remember them whenever they are searching for an article, nor can we expect other websites to adhere to our stylistic choices when they link to us. Thryduulf (talk) 19:25, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep; this is one of those redirects that is needed for search purposes. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 20:38, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:08, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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Sound Remedy
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 October 6%23Sound Remedy

Girth Of The Chest
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Girth Of The Chest → Thorax (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Girth_Of_The_Chest&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] )
 * Girth of the Chest → Thorax (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Girth_of_the_Chest&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The word "girth" is not present at the target article. For that reason, the helpfulness of these redirects, due to the possibility that their subject is not discussed in the target article, is unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 05:07, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: Horribly implausible search term, equally implausible association.   Ravenswing   06:23, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment The redirect was created because I was trying to match articles from the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia to content here, to see what was missing. The JE had this article with this title, on chest measurements of Jewish men in the 19th century -- which may be something other sources also exist about, for other groups at other times.  So I created a redirect to chest, which now redirects to thorax, as the most likely place such material might be located.  I see there's also a red-link "chest girth" at EN 13402, so this is a more-or-less standard term, and presumably there is material about it out there somewhere.
 * No preference as to whether the redirect is kept or not. Jheald (talk) 08:02, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: the late suggestion by Patar knight of retargetting to EN_13402 seems worthy of discussion.
 * Comment Body shape and Anthropometry are both related to this, although neither use the phrase. Thryduulf (talk) 09:49, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete no suitable article and overuse of caps in the title, no notable media title. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:00, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete agree with --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:41, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Retargeting to EN_13402 where Chest measurement goes would be an option, even if regionally specific. It uses the phrase "chest girth" there. Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:04, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 16:24, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Retarget to EN 13402 per Patar knight. Seems to be a more plausible case than the current target. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:04, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It's not perfect since it's a regional measurement system, but we can expect our readers to extrapolate that measurements of the "girth of the chest" appear in other systems as well. Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:42, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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Fatally wounded
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure)  f eminist 10:33, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Fatally wounded → Death (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fatally_wounded&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is ambiguous. It could also refer to Murder or Casualty (person). Steel1943 (talk) 18:37, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

re your hypothetical redirect used 0 times over years - no I don't agree, the redirect should not be deleted just because it is not being used. It should be deleted if it is implausible or so ambiguous that it's not possible to work out what it relates to, but not for being unused. It's unlikely that anything plausible will be unused though, as even some of the ridiculous eubot redirects got 3 or 4 hits a year (and you might remember I recommended deleting those ones). However, never have I seen a truly implausible redirect get more than 4-5 hits classified as human on the current stats tool. This gets double that amount, and so we should do our best to find a suitable target, and only delete it if we fail - and then it would be deleted because it lacks a suitable target, not because of it's view count. The maintenance burden of a redirect is so infinitesimal (on average you're looking at one vandalism edit that needs reverting every few decades, unless it gets nominated here) that even one actual human using it to find what they are looking for outweighs the cost (this is why WP:COSTLY so poorly represents reality in most cases where it is brought up). It's almost vaguely understandable when you try and claim a redirect used by 12 people a year is unused, but when you extend that to one used by more than 200 people a year (as you are doing on the redirect to Edward II) it removes my ability to treat the argument as being made in good faith. Thryduulf (talk) 14:24, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment wouldn't this fall in WP:EUPHEMISM as with "mortally wounded"? Do we really need a provide a link for that? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:31, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. The redirect got 49 hits last year, so I think it is useful for people search for this term to be taken somewhere appropriate. Even if we don't use it in articles and would not link it even if we did does not mean that people will not look it up, although search results indicate that it is frequently in use. The uses seem relate to the following situations: Battles (and other military actions), paramilitary actions, criminal activity and duelling in that approximate order of frequency. Other situations are possible of course, but are not as frequent. The criminal activities involved are it seems not normally (attempted) murders but people being shot (by criminals or by police) during a crime and/or during an (attempted) getaway. It seems to exclusively refer to people who did not die immediately but who sustained wounds/injuries to which they succumbed some time later (hours to days are common, weeks to months are not rare). For all these reasons a straight redirect to Murder is not something I would support. There is at present no Wiktionary entry at wikt:fatally wounded, and I am undecided at this moment whether one would be accepted (phrases generally need some degree of idiomaticy, things that are only the literal sum of their parts get deleted) but if one did exist I would not object to a soft redirect. More thinking is needed before I can make a firm recommendation about this one. Thryduulf (talk) 22:18, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. 49 hits per year is firmly implausible. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:45, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * 49 hits per year is almost one person every week on average using this redirect - unquestionably a useful redirect if there is an appropriate target. Thryduulf (talk) 00:06, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe that less than one hit per week is unquestionably implausible and will !vote to delete a redirect with such unbelievely useless statistics almost every single time. Thank you for repeating your opinion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:48, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't change the fact that deliberately making it harder for readers to find the content they are looking for is incredibly arrogant and contrary to the project's fundamental goal of increasing access to the world's knowledge - and this would be true for even a tenth of this number of readers. Thryduulf (talk) 09:11, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That's a great idea in theory, but we have strong evidence provided that this redirect is not being actively used. That is a classic WP:R situation on our hands. Additionally, redirects like those are WP:COSTLY since there is no benefits derived because it's not being used. And that's not even touching the "content they are looking for" argument, because it has not even been determined what someone using this search term may be looking for to begin with. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:32, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The problem with that argument is that we have evidence that almost 50 people a year are using this redirect. Unless you have somehow redefined mathematics such that 50=0 without my being aware of it of course. "Wikipedia is first and foremost an effort to create and distribute a free encyclopedia of the highest possible quality to every single person on the planet in their own language.—Jimmy Wales" note "every single person on the planet" not "every single person, except those who want to use search terms used by fewer than a few hundred other people each year". A high-quality encyclopaedia requires that those reading it are able to find what they are looking for, and where we can determine that we provide redirects regardless of how many people use it. There is no threshold below which people do not matter. Thryduulf (talk) 17:13, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * We're talking about a rate. I usually discuss implausibility of redirects in hits/day. Certainly the hits/day on this redirect is pretty damn close to zero. If, in order to get to a sizable number, we need to start discussing the hits/year, yeah, that is deep into the realm of implausibility. Remember we are talking about a useless redirect here, that has nothing to do with Jimmy Wales' grand philosophy of Wikipedia—frankly that is irrelevant here. I see you continue to bring up the "find what they are looking for" argument again. A simple page view tool does not determine whether people are finding what they are looking for, or even actively using the redirect for that matter. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:37, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Why does a redirect only become plausible if it is used multiple times per day? We want people to be able to find all knowledge, not just knowledge that is looked for multiple times a day. The page view tool does not show whether people are finding what they are looking for, but it does show that they are using this redirect to look for something. It is our job to do our best to determine what that something is, and point them in the right direction, not to delete it because they don't use it often enough your own arbitrary threshold. And as for Jimmy's vision, everything we do on Wikipedia should be done towards making that vision a reality in some way, and we don't do that by deleting things because not many people want to use it on a daily basis. Should we delete Castle Hill Railway (Bridgnorth) because it is was only used 12 times last year and people can find the content in other ways? Thryduulf (talk) 18:19, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Let's start with a hypothetical redirect that is literally never used, 0 hits going back years. Hopefully you can agree that is deletable. On the other end of the spectrum is the most used redirect (is there a place that lists the most viewed redirects?). That is obviously useful and should be kept. Somewhere along that spectrum is the "threshold" (more like a grey area) where the cost of the redirect becomes greater than its benefit (c.f. benefit-cost analysis). I've never provided a definition of where this threshold lies, I'm simply asserting that this redirect meets it. You do not, and that is fine, I respect your opinion on the matter. I do not believe people are using this redirect to find what they may be looking for, so I am claiming that Jimmy's vision is irrelevant with respect to a useless redirect. Finally, yes, I believe that redirect is useless, but let's not bring WP:OTHERSTUFF into this discussion (I thought you have learned that by now?) -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:41, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not mind explaining my position to you over and over again, but I refuse to converse with someone who thinks I am acting in bad faith. Good day, Thryduulf. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:50, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as ambiguous. There are a number of plausible targets for this, including wound, injury, death, etc. Rather than send readers to an arbitrary destination, let them use the search function. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:48, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is pointed at the best target, since "fatally wounded" results in death. Dying already redirects there. Overall, it seems that being fatally wounded has more of an affinity to the topics covered in death than those in other pages like wound, and injury, which almost entirely deal with far less severe cases. This also gets just over a hit a week, and is part of a group of commonly used English words/terms which can easily be searched for if the reader is not satisfied. Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:56, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 11:35, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Overly ambiguous term with no clear target.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:48, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Patar knight has convinced me that the current target is correct, making me realise that this is something that non-native speakers are likely to look up if they aren't familiar with the term. Thryduulf (talk) 19:28, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep If it is true that the redirect had received 49 hits per year then I see no reason to get rid of it, as it is serving its function adequately. Wiz9999 (talk) 21:01, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow, that link was made over 10 years ago? Damn, I'm getting old.... - Wiz9999 (talk) 21:07, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
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Deplorable
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 October 4%23Deplorable

Macedonian Navy
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 * The result of the discussion was set index  . (non-admin closure)  f eminist 02:58, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Macedonian Navy → Macedonian Lake Patrol Police (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Macedonian_Navy&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

For starters, "Navy" isn't mentioned at the target, and I haven't seen evidence of the Macedonian Lake Patrol Police being called a Navy (from my experience, Navies are typically separate from Police). Furthermore, my search for "Macedonian Navy" is overwhelmingly about the navies of the ancient Macedonian kingdom ("navy/ies" has 17 mentions on that page). With how ambiguous and controversial the word "Macedonia" is, I propose this redirect be deleted, although I'm okay with it being retargeted somewhere that describes the ancient Macedonian Navy (perhaps a section at Ancient navies and vessels?) -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:43, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. With the possible exception of the Vatican City, every country's navy is plausible search term - even landlocked ones (See Brownwater navy) and this redirect got 131 hits between 1 and 30 August and 1,399 last year. Fortunately for the project we don't decide what things are based only on your experience, we base them on evidence and the article makes it clear that despite the name this organisation is a branch of the Macedonian armed forces not the civilian police force so it is exactly what people will be looking for when searching this term or clicking on a link to it. If we information about the ancient Macedonian navy then that article can be added as a hatnote. The name of Macedonia is controversial, but only because it also refers to a region of Greece and it is not plausible for almost all sub-national regions to have navies so "Macedonian" in this context is not ambiguous with it - and even if it were then that would be a rationale for a hatnote or dab page, not deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 22:29, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * With the possible exception of the Vatican City, every country's navy is plausible search term Sure—if they have one. this redirect got 131 hits between 1 and 30 August and 1,399 last year. Search results only tell you that a redirect was used. They don't say how they were used or if someone arrived at the target they were wanting. Fortunately for the project we don't decide what things are based only on your experience, we base them on evidence I'll cast your snide remark aside, no worries. the article makes it clear that despite the name this organisation is a branch of the Macedonian armed forces not the civilian police force so it is exactly what people will be looking for when searching this term or clicking on a link to it. Not according to my search results. "Macedonian Navy" overwhelmingly refers to the ancient Macedonia. it is not plausible for almost all sub-national regions to have navies so "Macedonian" in this context is not ambiguous Ancient Macedonia wasn't a sub-National region, it was a kingdom with a navy as I linked above. even if it were then that would be a rationale for a hatnote or dab page, not deletion. But we'd need a second entry. There's still no evidence presented that the current target is known as "Macedonian Navy". -- Tavix  ( talk ) 23:09, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * We should not require people to know the answer to their query before they have searched for the answer to it, it is likely that every country has a navy of some description so we should have redirects in place for the likely search terms such as this one. If you think that the target is wrong then why are you proposing deletion instead of retargetting? We don't delete demonstrably useful redirects (as this is) if they go to the wrong target, we retarget them. In this case disambiguation is needed (which is never a reason for deletion), and hatnotes can do that just fine (either way, assuming we do have something about the ancient navy). In your haste to persue your deletionism, you've completely overlooked the fact that I didn't say it wasn't ambiguous, I said it was not plausible that it is ambiguous with a navy of the modern Greek region - I know the ancient territory was not a sub-national region, but I was not talking about the ancient territory as you would have known if you read what I actually wrote. I know the lake police are not called the Macedonian Navy, that's why this is tagged as a . Thryduulf (talk) 08:57, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * it is likely that every country has a navy of some description Do you have evidence for that claim? Fortunately for the project we don't decide what things are based only on what you think is likely, we base them on evidence. For what it's worth, List of navies says otherwise (and Macedonia isn't mentioned there at all, navy or no navy). why are you proposing deletion instead of retargetting? It's a vague search term (noting that Macedonia is ambiguous) and we don't have a good target for it. I mentioned in my nomination that I'm fine with retargeting somewhere that describes the ancient navy. Macedonia (ancient kingdom) mentions it several times, so that would work, but I would prefer a section or article that actually describes that Navy. In that regard, I think WP:REDLINK deletion to be beneficial here. I know the lake police are not called the Macedonian Navy Then there shouldn't be a redirect of that sort to that target! Going back to your first sentence, if someone is looking for "Macedoinian Navy", it would be confusing and misleading to redirect them somewhere that isn't called Macedonian Navy, whether that be correct or incorrect. that's why this is tagged as a. It's not though. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:37, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't assert "it is likely that every country has a navy of some description" the signficant majority of countries in the world today have a navy or equivalent water-bourne military force, therefore " navy" is a reasonable search term that should lead somewhere. Re not being called the navy - this is the entire point of having and arriving at a target that is about a branch of the Macedonian armed forces that carries out duties on water is neither misleading nor confusing (as for the lack of tag, I thought the category was how I found this one, but obviously not. I'll tag it now).  If something is ambiguous we disambiguate it (via a hatnote or dab page), we don't delete it, even if you don't like it - unless we only have information for one of the topics in which case we point to that as we do here. Thryduulf (talk) 07:40, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * For a redirect to be a cromulent R from incorrect name, it first has to be a search term that is actually incorrectly used to refer to the subject. There has still been no evidence provided to suggest that might be the case. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:50, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You mean other than the usage figures I quoted? I know that this is where I would expect this redirect to lead so it stands to reason that at least some of those thousands also use this search term to find information about the topic of the article. Some will probably be looking for the ancient navy, but not all as for example and  demonstrate. And that's with less than 5 minutes searching. Thryduulf (talk) 19:30, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I also found a third, z15 [dot] invisionfree [dot] com/illyria/index.php?showtopic=62 but that trips the spam blacklist so I can't directly link it. Thryduulf (talk) 19:31, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I guess that's something. I'm looking for a reliable source so a sentence can be added to Macedonian Lake Patrol Police that it is sometimes incorrectly/alternatively referred to as the Macedonian Navy. That way, it would be able to meet WP:DABMENTION in case it is decided to disambiguate the title. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:03, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

I don't know why the insistence on a reliable source, as I've clearly demonstrated this is a name that is used for the target which is what matters for redirects. A rigid reading of the WP:DABMENTION style guideline would for the same reasons be a detriment to our readers and therefore a perfect application of WP:IAR. Thryduulf (talk) 16:03, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Rather, it's confusing and/or misleading to have an entry in a disambiguation with no mention of the term in the article. Since that is a detriment to our readers, WP:IAR would not apply. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:18, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No, the disambiguation page would say that this is a term that is sometimes used to describe the target (see evidence presented above) nobody would be confused or mislead. In other cases, we can safely assume that someone using this search term knows what a navy is/does (if they don't then they can easily look up the navy article where the lead makes it clear that the activities the Lake Police undertake are covered) and that Macedonian can refer to the modern nation of Macedonia - nothing misleading or confusing about this at all. Thryduulf (talk) 22:32, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That's an awfully long string of assumptions you'd have to make to get there. If that is a common set of assumptions, it should be easy to add a reliable source to the article. There'd be no need to violate WP:DABMENTION. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:42, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

 * I agree with Thryduulf in that we can expect users to search for the navy of just about any country. In a case like this, whether they're being clever or whether they don't realize Macedonia is landlocked, I want to do something for them besides just giving them search results, which may suggest we'd one day have an article. See Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November 20 for a similar discussion with, IMO, a good solution.
 * So how to proceed here? Unfortunately, Military of Macedonia redirects to Army of the Republic of Macedonia, with no mention of a navy. Does this police force function at all like a navy? If so, the redirect could be acceptable. Ideally, I'd like a sentence at Republic of Macedonia or Macedonian Lake Patrol Police stating that Macedonia doesn't have a navy, and/or that the lake patrol is something like a navy, if that's at all accurate. We could then point to one of those places, and maybe add Macedonia to the list at Navies of landlocked countries. --BDD (talk) 14:59, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

 * Retarget to Navies of landlocked countries and a blurb stating that while the Republic of Macedonia does not operate a military navy, it has the Macedonian Lake Patrol Police as a waterborne border police force. Ben · Salvidrim!   ✉  15:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That would suffice for me. While a sourced statement about the country's lack of a navy, or the lake patrol's functioning as one, would be ideal, we should be fine with a statement that's simply easy to verify and unlikely to be challenge. Either "As a landlocked country, Macedonia has no navy" or what you've suggested fit those criteria. --BDD (talk) 18:30, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * However, it's important to keep in mind that Ancient Macedonia did have a navy, and it's easily the primary topic from my fairly exhaustive search on the topic. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:41, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The how about Convert to SIA as drafted here? Ben · Salvidrim!   ✉  22:01, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * A couple issues with that. First, with the Ancient Macedonian navy being the primary topic, a disambiguation wouldn't be necessary per WP:TWODABS. Second, if the lake patrol article is to be used, "Macedonian Navy" is going to have to be mentioned there to overcome WP:DABMENTION. Sure, it'd be easy to add a sentence somewhere, but sourcing it would be problematic from what I've seen. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:42, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I'm happy with that set index suggestion. Dabmention is not a hurdle as (a) this is not a disambiguation page, and (b) the associated explanation removes any possible ambiguity and will not leave anyone confused. Style guidelines (which is all the status dabmention has) must never be treated as more important than helping readers find the content they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 09:32, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 21:05, 17 September 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The set index suggestion seems best, per Thryduulf's reasoning. Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:03, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * SIA as the lesser of two evils. The search resulsts don't do a decent job of highlighting the relevant articles, so deletion per WP:XY is out of the question. And so is keeping targeted to the lake patrol: we shouldn't have an R from misnomer when the name properly refers to a topic for which we have content. The trouble is that this content isn't in one place. There's no article on the Ancient Macedonian Navy, and the closest thing we have is Antigonid Macedonian army, but this is only relevant to a certain period, while the rest is covered by the brief mentions at Macedonia (ancient kingdom) that Salvidrim's draft SIA links to. I imagine that this topic should ideally have a section of its own within either Ancient Macedonian army or Ancient navies and vessels, with a hatnote pointing to the lake patrol. But until that happens, a SIA is probably the best we can do. – Uanfala 12:53, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
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Rocket City FurMeet

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Rocket City Furmeet

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ZonieCon

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FranFurence

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ConFurence East

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Canadian Art and Cartooning Expo
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 October 3%23Canadian Art and Cartooning Expo

Anthrofest
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 October 3%23Anthrofest

All Fur Fun
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Oklacon
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Talk:Gasoline Alley, Alberta

Merge proposal
I'm thinking that Gasoline Alley, Alberta and Gasoline Alley, Alberta (hamlet) can be merged into one article. The Infobox can reflect the hamlet status, while the description of the larger Business Park can be added as a section. The two areas overlap considerably to the point that they are almost the same thing. -- MuzikMachine (talk) 00:14, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

 * I considered simply expanding this article with the content relating to the emergence of a new hamlet designation for the portion of this area but this article wasn't up to WP:CCSG standards, and the hamlet is a sub-area or neighbourhood of the larger area. It is less than 15% of the size of the larger business park. I opted for the new article based on larger area to small neighbourhood precedents such as: Ellerslie, Edmonton (area) and Ellerslie, Edmonton; Windermere, Edmonton (area) and Windermere, Edmonton; and West Jasper Place, Edmonton (area) and West Jasper Place, Edmonton. I think these precedents should be given more weight than Nisku as, in that situation, the one-block hamlet within pre-dates the industrial park, is surrounded by the industrial park, and will never grow (population 30). Rather it is more conceivable that it will contract and redevelop over time. Meanwhile, this hamlet is planned to grow to a size much larger than all villages in Alberta and larger than nearly half of all towns in the province, with future expansion plans to the northwest that will increase its population. Hwy43 (talk) 00:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

 * I just measured the size of the hamlet. It is ~200 ha in size. Gasoline Alley Business Park is 1,487 ha, including 627 ha in Gasoline Alley West and 860 ha in Gasoline Alley East. Therefore, the hamlet is 13.4% of the size of the larger area and is a neighbourhood within the larger area. Hwy43 (talk) 01:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

 * That makes sense. Do you think maybe the articles should be renamed? Maybe Gasoline Alley, Alberta could reflect the hamlet while Gasoline Alley Business Park could be the larger park?. -- MuzikMachine (talk) 14:21, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

 * Hands down the primary topic for Gasoline Alley, Alberta is the business park. I'd leave it as is and make Gasoline Alley Business Park a redirect to it. The primary topic assignment can be revisited in future if and when the hamlet receives coverage that rivals the business park. Before then, hopefully Red Deer County will rename the hamlet to make the community more enticing and we can avoid this confusion altogether! Hwy43 (talk) 19:09, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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United States Government

The government of the United States of America is federal in structure. In addition to a national government, there are fifty state governments. Federalism refers to the system of relations between these levels of government. The state governments are not mere administrative units of the national government; they each have well-defined governmental structures of their own: constitutions, legislatures, supreme courts, etc. Many of the major events in American History have involved questions about the proper relation between the national government and the states.

In terms of governments around the world, the federal bicameral republic is a fairly rare form of governance. The majority of democracies around the world tend toward parliamentary systems, so what is it about this particular system that makes it stand so well yet rarely attempted? This particular topic will engage students into several aspects of American Government in order to bring about some understanding of the process. Emphasis is placed upon historical events leading up to the foundation of the republic and the drafting of the constitution. Later on, a study of several key cases about federal powers (typically through court cases) will tie the experience to a close.

Key Roles of Government
Historically, the key power of any government has been the ability to collect taxes from the people (in form of money, goods, and/or labor) and redistribute those resources in such a way as to benefit the community as a whole. Government can exist in a variety of styles, from dictatorships to monarchies to different forms of democracy. Being that this topic is based on the American form of democratic republic we are going to look at what key roles are defined as per the Constitution:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. - Preamble, US Constitution

This paragraph is the opening statement of the Constitution, also known as the Preamble. Looking into this statement it can be seen that the framers had a few particular goals in mind:

 * "form a more perfect union" - obviously stemming from the fact that the Articles of Confederation were not working out as planned, something new needed to be enacted.
 * "establish justice" - to create fair and equitable courts, fairly self-explanatory.
 * "insure domestic tranquility" - the creation of laws to ensure an orderly society.
 * "provide for the common defense" - self-explanatory.
 * "promote the general welfare" - to do what is best for America and Americans.
 * "secure the blessing of liberty" - as a country we value the rights of the individual over monarchial/dictatorial rule.

Branches of Government
At the federal level, there is a tripartite structure, or what is usually referred to as the three branches: legislative, executive and judicial. In theory, the legislature makes the law, the executive enforces or executes the law, and the judiciary interprets the law.

Legislative Branch
Section 1: All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. -Article 1, US Constitution

The Legislative Branch of the United States government is divided in the House of Representatives and the Senate. This bicameral legislature was designed as a compromise between the constitutional delegates of the state of New Jersey (who preferred equal representation for all states) and Virginia (who preferred representation based on population). All bills concerning taxes must begin in the House of Representatives while the Senate alone approves treaties and confirms presidential appointments. Ultimately all bills passed in either the House or the Senate must be sent to the other legislative house and pass before the bill is sent to the President to sign.

The House of Representatives
The current number of representatives is fixed at 435.
 * The number of representatives for each state is based on population. Today, all citizens of a state are counted.
 * All delegates to the House of Representatives are elected every two years. There is no term limit.
 * To be eligible, delegates must be citizens of the state in which they are running, must have been a citizen for at least seven years, and must be at least 25 years old.

The Senate

 * Each state is entitled to two senators, each with a six year term. There is no term limit.
 * Senators used to be appointed from the state legislatures, however an amendment changed senator appointment to general election by the people.
 * To be eligible, canidates must be citizens of the state in which they are running, must have been a citizen for nine years, and be at least 30 years old.

Executive Branch
Section 1 - The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:[…] -Article 2, US Constitution

The Executive Branch consists of a hierarchal organization starting with the President and branching down to every federal government employee (excepting those working for Congress or the Courts). Historically, the powers of the presidency have shifted over time; typically on the personal power each executive brings to the office. For more information, please refer to the actual Constitution for details; the important thing to mention is that this branch 'carries out' the laws and decisions made by the other two branches (Legislative and Judicial). The military, intelligence, police, and public services all fall under administration from this branch of the government. Under the President are 15 'department heads', also known as Secretaries (except for the Attorney General). These are the leading officers of each major department that the administration has control of. Also in the cabinet are six other members who only attend meetings (VP, Chief of Staff, EPA, OMB, National Drug Control, and Trade Representative but it's not important to understand in this discussion).

Together with the President, the cabinet carries out all the tasks required of them and forwards the policies of the President in determining future actions.

Judicial Branch
Section 1 - The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behavior, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services a compensation which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office. -Article 3, US Constitution

It's surprising to most people today, but in fact the Supreme Court is the only judicial entity that is specifically mentioned in the Constitution. All the other courts have been sprung from acts of Congress. The main role of the judicial branch is to evaluate the legal standing of constitutional issues (ie: does this law go against the Constitution?) Some have argued that because of this charge, the Supreme Court is the most powerful branch in government (in terms of Constitutional authority). However, others have pointed out that the judicial branch is tied to the laws that Congress passes and is dependent upon the President enforcing the decisions handed out. Without those two branches working in sync with the judicial branch, it's debatable on how useful the court would be at all.

Notable Supreme Court Cases Involving the Constitution
Marbury v. Madison (1803) was the earliest landmark decision of the Supreme Court. It established the doctrine of judical review, meaning that the Supreme Court had the authority to declare an act of Congress or the executive branch unconstitutional.
 * Marbury v. Madison

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Jayashali P D Sundar Rao He the person who did not know the bible atoll

Director, Bible Open University India International

The one and only challenging international dynamic speaker who has preached the truths from the Bible as stated by the Heavenly Father and who has deposed all who stood against the Bible & Christianity and mocked it. He had the urge to learn about God and to know about Him since the age of 5 years. He had so many questions and doubts which none of the preachers and pastors of that time could explain to him clearly. Unsatisfied with the assuming incomplete inappropriate explanations given to him during his young years, He choose to look only to the Bible and to learn from it himself. From his young age he started to study The Bible categorically with an inquisitorial method by asking why, how, who, etc questions. He carefully studied the Bible for 25 years and gained unprecedented knowledge. He made it a point to make known the truths to the people of the world because he noticed that what was available and preached to the Christian community was not what was intended by the Heavenly Father. In this expedition, he had to encounter so many humiliations, losses and had to overcome many reproaches by many false preachers from the same Christian community and even from others. He has not considered anything for himself or his family all along and has sacrificed his everything for this cause. The outcome of his hardships are what you see listed on this page. May these be the eye openers for today's mankind to lead them to the Heavenly Father to gain eternal life.

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Talk:Crofton High School (Maryland)

Changed name to "Crofton High School (Maryland)"
I changed the name of this article from "Crofton High School" to "Crofton High School (Maryland)". There is another Crofton High School, in Nebraska USA, and existing hotlinks to that school were inadvertently going to the Maryland article. The Maryland article is relatively new, so changing its name will not affect many places (and I think I've already caught them all). Adding "(Maryland)" follows the convention in multiple other articles where differentiation by geography is needed. — Molly-in-md (talk) 17:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Confederation of Independent Trade Unions of Bosnia and Herzegovina

The Confederation of Independent Trade Unions of Bosnia and Herzegovina is a trade union centre in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was founded in 1905. ICTUR reports that "the SSSBiH is preoccupied primarily with the consequences of privatization and the high rate of unemployment and problems such as wage arrears."

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Talk:Diana Scarwid

Inaccuracy
This article describes "Brenda Starr" as "never-released," then paradoxically gives a release year for it of 1993. In fact, the movie was released, but in 1992. —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 23:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

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Trinchesia acinosa

Trinchesia acinosa is a species of sea slug, an aeolid nudibranch, a marine gastropod mollusc in the family Trinchesiidae.

Distribution
This species was described from New Caledonia. It has been reported from Japan and the Marshall Islands.

Description
The typical adult size of this species is 10–12 mm. The body is opaque white and the cerata, rhinophores, front of the head and oral tentacles are pale to bright orange.

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Crackdown (podcast)

Crackdown is a Canadian monthly podcast first launched in 2019. The podcast was created and hosted by drug users and interrogates Canadian and global drug policy from the perspective of drug user activists who are the most impacted by these policies and fight to change them. The show is hosted by journalist Garth Mullins who talks about his own former drug use on the show.

Critical reception
The podcast won the Third Coast International Audio Festival's Impact award in 2019 and The Sidney Hillman Foundation's Canadian Hillman Prize in 2020.

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Harry Osborn (Sam Raimi film series)

Harold Theopolis "Harry" Osborn is a fictional character in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man film series. Based on the comic book character of the same name created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko, he is portrayed by James Franco. In the films, Harry is Peter Parker's best friend and a rival for Mary Jane Watson's affections, though the three are friends for much of the series. Harry and Peter's friendship strains severely after the death of Harry's father Norman, who was the villainous Green Goblin, which he blames on Peter's alter-ego Spider-Man on top of some resentment towards Peter for seemingly "stealing" Mary Jane's affections from him. Upon finding out his best friend is actually the web-slinger, Harry, despite being reluctant at first, vows revenge on him, taking on the New Goblin mantle and utilizing the technology his father left behind.

Despite receiving initial mixed reviews in the first two films, Franco's portrayal of Harry Osborn catapulted the actor to wider mainstream exposure as one of his first major film roles. He was nominated for four awards for his more warmly received performance in Spider-Man 3.

Comics origin and casting for Sam Raimi's films
First appearing in The Amazing Spider-Man #31, Harry Osborn is depicted as the wealthy son of Norman Osborn, with his mother presumably dying at a young age. Harry and Peter Parker gradually become close friends after meeting in college, despite initially not getting along and battling over girls such as Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane Watson. Harry struggles to gain his father's approval, who is constantly at work, and becomes jealous of Norman becoming fond of Peter. After Mary Jane dumps him, he becomes addicted to drugs. He initially does not know his father becomes the Green Goblin while his best friend is actually Spider-Man. Harry takes on the Green Goblin persona and technology after his father's death, which he blames on Spider-Man and in turn Peter, and is influenced by hallucinations of his father to kill Peter, but sacrifices himself to save Peter, Mary Jane, and his son. Since dying in The Spectacular Spider-Man #200, Harry, like his father and Gwen Stacy, has since been resurrected or re-adapted into different forms in the comics.

James Franco was cast as Harry for the 2002 Spider-Man film. Originally, Franco was considered for the lead role of Spider-Man/Peter Parker in the film before Tobey Maguire won the role, but upon seeing Franco's audition, Raimi's wife thought that Franco was perfect for the role of Harry. In a review of the first film, Todd McCarthy of Variety noted that there were "good moments" between Maguire and Franco. However, due to an off-hand remark that Franco made towards Maguire, a real-life feud emerged between the two actors for some time.

In Spider-Man 3, shooting was difficult for cinematographer Bill Pope during fight scenes that take place at night, as the symbiote Spider-Man, Venom, and the New Goblin were all costumed in black for those scenes. Upon Harry taking on his father's mantle and using leftover equipment, Harry's suit and glider have been modified, possibly due to the backlash that the original Green Goblin suit received in the first film. Instead of using a bulky helmet, the New Goblin uses a mask resembling a ski mask with goggles, and his glider, nicknamed the Sky Stick in the film's promotional materials, resembles a snowboard.

Characterization and themes
As depicted in the Sam Raimi film series, Harry is a good man and a loyal friend, having always considered the nerdy Peter Parker his best friend and protected him in high school, which closely resembles their relationship in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics. In addition, he never allowed his wealth to make him spoiled or arrogant early in the series. However, Harry is also prone to stress, depression and obsession, and his desire to please his father strains his judgement and relationships, including treating his then-girlfriend Mary Jane Watson as a trophy to impress his father, and developing a jealousy towards his best friend, Peter. After his father's death, Harry becomes obsessed with Spider-Man, and develops a strong vendetta towards him. The "New Goblin" persona adapted in Spider-Man 3 is the embodiment of Harry Osborn's hatred towards Spider-Man and only exists for completing his vendetta. But after Harry comes to terms with his misguided hatred and his friendship with Peter, with no more doubts, he reconciles with his best friend and the two form an effective team fighting against adversaries.

In an analysis of the leading male figures in Spider-Man, including Tobey Maguire's Peter Parker and Willem Dafoe's Norman Osborn, James Whitbroook of Gizmodo writes that Harry is initially reluctant to bask in the Osborn name, hiding from public view while riding with his father in their limousine and resisting the urge to become spoiled by his inheritance, though he almost immediately takes advantage of Peter's bookish nature to flirt with Mary Jane, his best friend's crush, using a trivia bit that Peter brings up to impress her. Harry eventually gives in to using the Osborn name due to what it brings to him, eventually gambling on an ill-fated experiment by Dr. Otto Octavius in Spider-Man 2 in an attempt to gain more power and influence rather than to benefit those around him. Harry is under the impression that his father was a good man killed by Spider-Man, and upon discovering his father's stash of weaponry, uses it to try and get revenge on the hero, even after he discovers that Peter, his best friend, is actually Spider-Man. Sam Raimi felt that Harry would not follow his father's legacy upon becoming the new Green Goblin, but be instead "somewhere between." Despite this, Raimi wanted the conflict between Harry and Peter to be resolved by the end of Spider-Man 3. He also said that him suffering from amnesia in the first act, was a way to rekindle Harry's broken friendship with Peter.

Spider-Man (2002)
Harry first appears riding with his father Norman Osborn in their limousine as Norman drops Harry off for a school field trip. The film establishes that Harry had flunked out of numerous private schools, forcing his enrollment at Midtown High School, and that Harry and Norman have a somewhat strained relationship. Upon seeing his best friend Peter Parker, Harry introduces him to his father, who immediately takes a liking to Peter, due to his intellect, to which Harry jokes that Norman wants to adopt him. Norman later attends their graduation and congratulates Harry, also taking time to console Peter for the loss of his uncle and warmly accepting him as a brother figure to Harry and thus a part of their family. At the same time, Harry notices that Mary Jane Watson, Peter's childhood crush, had broken up with her ex-boyfriend Flash Thompson.

Some time after the end of school, Harry and Peter live together in a large apartment bought by Norman. Harry starts a relationship with Mary Jane, initially without telling Peter, who later finds out from MJ that the two are dating but hides his disappointment. Harry and MJ have an important date at a fair sponsored by his father's company Oscorp, where the flaws of their relationship are shown: Harry wants to impress his father with MJ, and MJ is evidently not truly interested in him. The couple, along with the whole Oscorp board, are suddenly attacked by the Green Goblin, a homicidal criminal who, unbeknownst to Harry, is actually Norman with an insane second personality due to an experiment gone wrong. Harry attempts to save MJ from falling down from a terrace, but is knocked out by falling debris, and she is instead saved by Spider-Man.

On Thanksgiving, Harry tries again to present his girlfriend to his father during dinner with Peter and his Aunt May, but Norman, who discovers that Peter is Spider-Man, suddenly leaves in a hurry. Harry pleads with him to stay for dinner with him and Mary Jane, but Norman uncharacteristically insults MJ, ordering his son to dump her as soon as he is satisfied with her, and then storms off. Harry is saddened by the lack of attention by his father, and, to make it worse, MJ overhears Norman and calls him a creep, and an angry Harry defends him, saying that the "creep" was his father.

While Aunt May is in hospital after being attacked by the Goblin, Harry goes to visit her, but finds Peter and MJ getting intimate with each other. With his feelings hurt, Harry goes to his father, telling him he was right about everything, MJ included, and unwittingly reveals to the Goblin Spider-Man's true weakness: Mary Jane. The Green Goblin uses this to bait Spider-Man into another fight by kidnapping MJ, but is killed by his own glider after attempting to kill Spider-Man. Following Norman's last wish to not let Harry know about his villainous split-personality, Spider-Man removes the Goblin's costume and returns Norman's body to the Osborn mansion, but Harry walks in. Distraught and mistakenly assuming it was Spider-Man who killed Norman, Harry tries to shoot the hero, but Spider-Man vanishes.

During Norman's funeral, Harry swears vengeance towards Spider-Man, but expresses his gratitude that Peter is the only family he has left.

Spider-Man 2 (2004)
Two years after Norman's death, Harry takes over Oscorp. He remains good friends with Peter but still harbours animosity towards Spider-Man, and at Peter's birthday party, offers to introduce Peter to his idol, renowned scientist, Dr. Otto Octavius, whose research Harry is funding. Peter is, however, still fearful of how delicate his friendship with Harry has become because of Harry's vendetta against his alter-ego.

Harry provides Octavius with tritium, a very rare form of hydrogen which Octavius needs for his nuclear fusion experiment. If the experiment succeeds, Oscorp would gain the rights on a new kind of energy source, making it one of the most important, powerful and rich energy companies in the world. However, during a live demonstration of the fusion, the experiment fails and despite Harry's warnings Otto refuses to shut down the machine and the resulting explosion permanently attaches four extendable robotic arms onto Octavius, who is taken to the hospital and later escapes, becoming the villainous "Doctor Octopus". Emotionally destroyed by the failure, Harry starts drinking heavily and focuses his anger onto Spider-Man. During a party, Harry gets drunk and starts lashing out at Peter, resenting him for being his father's favorite, accusing him of protecting Spider-Man for the profit of taking Spider-Man's newspaper photos and for "stealing" Mary Jane. During the argument, Harry slaps Peter, humiliating them both in public.

His hatred towards Spider-Man goes so far that, when Doctor Octopus arrives at his penthouse demanding more tritium, he makes a deal with him: the tritium in exchange of Spider-Man's capture. When Doc Ock asks him how can he find the hero, Harry instructs him to use Peter Parker, who takes pictures of Spider-Man. After kidnapping Mary Jane and a long battle, Octavius delivers Spider-Man to Harry and leaves with his tritium. Armed with a dagger, Harry then proceeds to unmask the hero. He is shocked when he realized that his worst enemy was actually his best friend, but he reveals Doc Ock's whereabouts to Peter, who leaves to rescue Mary Jane.

Still in shock, Harry sees visions of his father's ghost, who encourages his revenge towards Peter Parker/Spider-Man. Harry is reluctant to hurt his friend and struggles against Norman's will, trying to make the ghost go away; throwing a knife through the mirror in which Norman appears, Harry shatters it and discovers the Green Goblin's secret hideout, with all his weaponry and equipment. Now, Harry has both the motives and the tools for his revenge. Harry is later seen at Mary Jane and John Jameson's botched wedding as a guest.

Spider-Man 3 (2007)

Following a year, Harry brushes off Peter's attempts to talk to him and explain the truth of Norman's death. He eventually opts to use a refined version of his father's performance-enhancing formula, utilizing his father's equipment as well. After Peter leaves a date with Mary Jane, Harry ambushes him as the New Goblin, intent on exacting revenge for his father's death. During their confrontation, Peter tells Harry the truth about Norman's death, but Harry refuses to believe it. Battling in an alley, Peter entraps Harry and knocks him out, impairing part of his memory. Recovering in the hospital, Harry–vaguely suffering from amnesia–forgets everything about his vendetta and Spider-Man. He also re-embraces Peter and Mary Jane as his best friends, seemingly with his life finally at peace. Harry, having forgotten taking the Goblin Serum, is surprised by his enhanced physical capacities, such as his incredibly sharp reflexes. However, despite Harry's relief, Peter does not tell him about the true nature of Norman's demise.

When Peter is overtaken by an alien symbiote which affects his personality and thus starts distancing himself from his friends to focus on his late uncle's recently revealed killer, Mary Jane is depressed over her lost acting career and finds solace with Harry. Harry welcomes her into his home and they bond with each other, seemingly becoming closer than their previous dating relationship. After she unwittingly kisses him and rushes away regretting it, the sudden surge of familiar stress unlocks Harry's memories and restored his vendetta. Again haunted by visions of his father, who gives him advice on emotional war, Harry decides to hurt Peter through Mary Jane by forcing her to break up with Peter, leaving Peter heartbroken. Later, Harry encounters Peter in a café and declares to him that he is MJ's new boyfriend. Realizing Harry's plot against him, Peter goes to the Osborn mansion, now armed with the aggression-inducing symbiote costume, and a new hatred for his old best friend, engaging Harry in a brutal fist-fight. Harry is defeated and insulted by Peter, who spitefully mocks his relationship with his father, and when he tries to hit Peter with a pumpkin bomb, Peter effortlessly slings the bomb back at his face and leaves, turning his back on the completely defeated Harry.

After Peter realizes the symbiote's effects on him and his relationships, he gets rid of the suit, only for it to fall onto his rival at the Daily Bugle, Eddie Brock, and create a new enemy, Venom. Peter pleads with Harry for help when Venom and Sandman kidnap Mary Jane, but a broken-spirited Harry, whose face is disfigured at the right half from the bomb, refuses and Peter leaves. As Spider-Man takes on the two villains alone, Harry's butler reveals to him that while cleaning Norman's corpse, he discovered that Norman's death was a result of his own weaponry and not due to Spider-Man, but kept it a secret all these years; realizing Peter's story is true, Harry relents and comes to his old friend's aid just as Sandman is about to kill Spider-Man. Harry and Peter prove to be a formidable team and defeat Sandman in addition to saving Mary Jane. Venom proves to be more of a challenge, and as he prepares to impale Peter with Harry's glider, Harry takes the blade for Peter and is tossed aside, falling dozens of stories below. Peter finally manages to defeat Venom, and after coming to a truce and understanding with Sandman, finds a mortally wounded Harry down below with Mary Jane. The two friends forgive each other and reconcile before Harry dies with Peter and Mary Jane at his side. Both of them attend his funeral, with Peter staying there more than any other mourner, in a state of grief for his best friend's death.

Alternate universe
After Peter is temporarily transported to an alternate reality during the events of the Marvel Studios film Spider-Man: No Way Home, he reveals to Ned Leeds that Harry, his best friend, "died in his arms after trying to kill him" when he asks Peter if he had a best friend. Harry's father Norman Osborn, who is also transported to this universe, tells May Parker and that universe's Peter Parker that Oscorp doesn't exist and is feeling uneasy about his son not existing in the universe either.

Television

 * The character also appears in Spider-Man: The New Animated Series, an animated television series which serves as a loose alternate continuation of the first Spider-Man film. Harry attends Empire State University with Peter and Mary Jane, retaining his desire for revenge on Spider-Man as he believes he caused his father's death although unlike in the progression of the films, he eventually forgives and warms up to the hero and even helps him stop Lizard and Electro. He is voiced by Ian Ziering in the series.

Video games

 * Harry appears in all three video game adaptations of the films. He is voiced by Josh Keaton in the first and second games, and by James Franco in the third game, which sees a good number of the film's cast also reprise their roles vocally. In the first game, Harry is playable, sporting his father's Green Goblin armor and equipment after his death, and has his own bonus storyline, in which he investigates a plot to take over Oscorp while battling another Goblin who claims to have been hired by Norman; Harry is unlocked by completing the game on at least "Hero" difficulty. In the third game, Harry, as the New Goblin, is playable only in the final mission of the Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360 versions, but was later released as downloadable content for both PlayStation Network and Xbox Live; he is also included in the Collectors Edition of the PlayStation 3 version, and is playable in the PC version via mods.
 * This version of Harry Osborn appears in his New Goblin persona in Spider-Man: Friend or Foe, once again voiced by Josh Keaton. The game borrows character designs from the Spider-Man film trilogy, but the two properties are otherwise unrelated. Harry first appears in the opening cutscene, helping Spider-Man in a fight against his villains, including Harry's father, the Green Goblin. After the battle, the group is attacked by a swarm of P.H.A.N.T.O.M.s, and Harry and the villains are suddenly teleported elsewhere while Spider-Man is rescued by S.H.I.E.L.D. Harry makes no further appearances in the storyline, but is unlocked as a playable character once the player beats the game; alternatively, he can be unlocked earlier on by entering a special cheat code inside the Helicarrier.

Reception and legacy

In the first two films, Harry's presence was noted as brooding by Anthony Lane of The New Yorker. His conversion from one of the film series' main protagonists into a villain in the third movie was met with generally favorable responses. His portrayal in Spider-Man 3 has been generally considered as a good conclusion to his arc and that Franco finally looked comfortable in his film role.

James Franco also received greater mainstream exposure for his portrayal of Harry Osborn in the film series, especially in Spider-Man 3, for which he received four award nominations.

In popular culture
In the 2013 comedy film This Is the End, which also stars James Franco portraying a fictionalized version of himself, the main characters find a cardboard cutout of Harry Osborn/New Goblin as he appears in Spider-Man 3 in Franco's basement. In addition, the scene in which Harry relishes a slice of pie in Spider-Man 3 has gained meme popularity over the years.

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Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising

Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising (released in some countries as Bad Neighbours 2 and on home release as Neighbors 2) is a 2016 American comedy film directed by Nicholas Stoller and written by Stoller, Andrew J. Cohen, Brendan O'Brien, Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg. A sequel to Neighbors (2014), the plot follows the Radners (Rogen and Rose Byrne) having to outwit a new sorority led by Shelby (Chloë Grace Moretz), living next door to sell their house currently in escrow. Zac Efron, Dave Franco, Christopher Mintz-Plasse, Jerrod Carmichael, Ike Barinholtz, Carla Gallo, Hannibal Buress, and Lisa Kudrow reprise their roles from the first film; it was Rogen's first live-action sequel. The film premiered on April 26, 2016, in Berlin and was released on May 20, 2016, in the United States, receiving mostly positive reviews and grossed $108 million worldwide.

Plot
Mac and Kelly Radner are expecting their second child, and prepare to sell their home to the Baiers family; the Radners' realtor reminds them that the house is in escrow for 30 days. Mac's friend Jimmy and his wife Paula are also expecting a baby. College freshman Shelby meets fellow freshmen Beth and Nora. Learning that sororities are not allowed to host parties, and disgusted by sexist and predatory frat parties, the trio create a new sorority, Kappa Nu, to throw their own parties.

Teddy Sanders hosts poker night with his former frat brothers. Pete has become a successful architect and come out of the closet, Scoonie has launched his own mobile app, and Garf is a rookie cop since graduating, but Teddy now has a criminal record and cannot find a worthwhile job.

The friends help Pete's boyfriend Darren propose, leading Pete to ask Teddy to move out. Distraught, Teddy runs to the old frat house, next door to the Radners. He meets Shelby, Beth, and Nora, the girls hoping to rent the house for Kappa Nu but unable to afford it. Finding an opportunity to be valued, Teddy offers to help them throw parties, earning enough donations and new members to pay rent.

Fearing that the sorority will scare off the Baiers, Mac and Kelly ask Shelby to temporarily refrain from partying, but she refuses. The Radners go to Dean Gladstone, who cannot control an independent sorority, and Shelby's father, who also fails to help, leading Kappa Nu to prank the Radners. Mac, Kelly, Jimmy, and Paula retaliate, infesting the sorority house with bed bugs, forcing the girls to evacuate and pay for fumigation tenting, just in time for the Baiers' visit. Teddy argues with Pete about the state of his life and moves into the sorority.

Low on funds to pay rent, the girls plan to sell marijuana at their 'tailgate party', eliminating the competition by getting all other dealers arrested. When Teddy objects, the girls kick him out, and he joins the Radners to take down Kappa Nu. They infiltrate the party, and Teddy distracts the girls while Mac steals their marijuana. Realizing Teddy's lack of direction in life, Mac and Kelly let him stay with them. The girls switch Mac and Kelly's cell phone numbers with their own and send text messages tricking Mac into flying to Sydney, Australia. Returning home, the Radners find Kappa Nu has robbed and vandalized their house, and the Baiers threaten to pull out from the sale unless the sorority is kicked out.

The sorority receives an eviction notice, and Shelby reluctantly organizes a sexually gratuitous frat-style party to raise money. As Mac and Kelly wait to call the police, Jimmy and Paula sneak into the party, while Teddy is unable to shut off the sorority's power. Shelby steals Mac and Kelly's phones and locks Mac and Teddy in the garage, but they break out using airbags. Overhearing Beth and Nora confront Shelby for compromising their original goals, Kelly encourages the girls not to give up on themselves. Paula goes into labor, and Teddy reconciles with Pete and Darren, happily agreeing to serve as their best man. The sorority enjoys a more empowering party for themselves and discover a crowd of girls from other sororities wanting to join Kappa Nu. With an overflow of money and new members, the sorority is able to keep their home, and the Radners agree to rent their house to Kappa Nu as well, earning them a bigger cashflow than selling the house.

Three months later, Teddy has become a successful wedding planner for gay couples, utilizing his party-planning experience; he prepares Pete to walk down the aisle. Mac and Kelly have moved into their new home, with no close neighbors, and realized they have been good parents all along. They bring home their new baby, Mildred, to meet Jimmy and Paula with their new son, Jimmy Jr.

Development
By early February 2015, a sequel to Neighbors was in development, with Nicholas Stoller set to return to direct. Andrew J. Cohen and Brendan O'Brien returned to write the film, along with Stoller, Seth Rogen, and Evan Goldberg. Goldberg said he read a list of feminist essays as part of research for the script. Two female comedians, Amanda Lund and Maria Blasucci, were brought on board to punch up the jokes, but director Stoller explained they were ultimately not given writer's credits because of Writers Guild stipulations. The film follows Mac and Kelly joining forces with Delta Psi frat leader Teddy to take on the sorority girls who move in next door. Rogen, Rose Byrne, and Zac Efron returned to star. The film was initially scheduled to begin principal photography in mid-2015.

Casting
In July 2015, Chloë Grace Moretz joined the cast, and the title was revealed to be Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising. On August 4, 2015, it was confirmed that Carla Gallo and Ike Barinholtz would be returning for the sequel. On August 7, 2015, Beanie Feldstein and Kiersey Clemons were added to the cast to play Moretz's character's sorority sisters. On August 13, 2015, The Hollywood Reporter confirmed that Dave Franco would return for the sequel. Selena Gomez was seen filming on set. Lisa Kudrow was also spotted filming, along with other cast. By September 24, 2015, Billy Eichner had joined the cast of the film. The same month, it was revealed that Hannibal Buress and Jerrod Carmichael had been cast in the film, reprising their roles from the first film. Clara Mamet and Awkwafina also joined the cast. On November 18, 2015, it was announced that Cameron Dallas had joined the cast. In December 2015, it was revealed that Abbi Jacobson had also joined the cast, followed by Christopher Mintz-Plasse, Liz Cackowski, and Brian Huskey, all reprising their roles from the first film.

Filming
Principal photography began on August 31, 2015, in Atlanta, Georgia, and ended on October 29, 2015.

Post-production
During post-production, Lena Dunham, LL Cool J, and Cameron Dallas's scenes were all cut from the film. In her cut scene, Dunham played Joan of Arc. LL Cool J played Beth's father.

Release
On February 6, 2015, Universal Pictures scheduled the film for release on May 13, 2016. However, on July 27, 2015, the film was pushed back one week to May 20, 2016.

Box office
Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising grossed $55.4 million in North America and $55.3 million in other territories for a worldwide total of $108.8 million, against a budget of $35 million.

In North America, Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising opened alongside The Angry Birds Movie and The Nice Guys, and was projected to gross $35–40 million from 3,384 theaters in its opening weekend. The film grossed $8.7 million on its first day, including $1.7 million from Thursday night previews (lower than the original's $2.5 million). In its opening weekend the film grossed $21.8 million, less than half both the previous film's opening ($49 million) and projections, and finished third at the box office behind The Angry Birds Movie ($38.2 million) and Captain America: Civil War ($32.9 million). The film dropped 57% to $9.4 million in its second weekend, including $11.4 million over the four-day Memorial Day weekend, finishing fifth.

Internationally, where it is known as Bad Neighbours 2, the film was released in a total of 56 countries. It was released in 16 markets on May 6, 2016, where it earned $8 million in its opening weekend. The United Kingdom and Ireland posted the top opening for the film with $2.4 million, followed by Australia with $1.8 million and $1.5 million in Germany.

Reception
On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 64% based on 204 reviews, with an average rating of 5.8/10. The website's critical consensus reads, "Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising may not be strictly necessary, but it still wrings a surprising amount of humor from a recycled premise with a distaff twist." On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 58 out of 100, based on 39 critics, indicating "mixed or average reviews". Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of "B" on an A+ to F scale, the same grade earned by its predecessor, while PostTrak reported audiences gave the film a 67% overall positive score and a 45% "definite recommend".

Mike Ryan of Uproxx gave the film a positive review, writing, "In a world in which so many comedy sequels fail, here comes a comedy sequel that isn't just 'as good as the first movie,' it's even better." The Guardian awarded it two stars out of five, saying, "This pretty routine follow-up has some decent material and amiable bad taste, heavily diluted with gallons of very ordinary sequel product: more of the same."

In addition, critics praised the movie for its depiction of a gay relationship and positive support from friends in a bromance that avoids gay panic, instead embracing acceptance. The film was also commended for its purported feminist message and for engaging in issues of gender equality, but has also inspired debate about its degree of progressivism.

Short film
On May 16, 2016, Seth Rogen uploaded a short film sequel to Sorority Rising to his Twitter account, titled Neighbors 3: Zombies Rising, in which he and Zac Efron reprise their roles as Mac and Teddy. The film follows the pair as they argue over how to deal with a tied up zombie, with matters becoming complicated when Teddy realizes the zombie was once part of his fraternity, Delta Psi Beta. The short ends after the pair accidentally kill the zombie, with Rogen and Efron themselves discussing what a great idea it would be for a third feature-length Neighbors film.

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User:Evesealy

Evesealy
“Power, time, gravity, love. The forces that really kick ass are all invisible.” ― David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas

I am a student on the Reproductive Biology Hons. course at the University of Edinburgh.

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User:DeRossitt/Ezra Pound: The Legacy of Kulchur

Ezra Pound: The Legacy of Kulchur is a 1988 book of essays on the work of American poet Ezra Pound, edited by Marcel Smith and William A. Ulmer.

Overview
Text

Reception
Gerald Carlin

Martin Schiralli in the Journal of Aesthetic Education

Bruce Clarke in the South Atlantic Review

Adam Parkes in The Centennial Review

Ondrea E. Ackerman in Paideuma

Leon Surette in Paideuma

Catherine E. Paul in Twentieth-Century Literature


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Perl Programming/Websites

Key Sites

 * perl.org - the home of the Perl programming language
 * perldoc.perl.org - Perl documentation
 * cpan.org - The Comprehensive Perl Archive Network, a huge repository for Perl modules and scripts
 * dev.perl.org/perl6 - Perl 6 development site
 * The Parrot virtual machine

Community

 * Perl Mongers, Perl User Group Index
 * The Perl Monastery, themed Perl based help site

Other

 * perl.com - a Perl blog
 * The DMOZ directory, DMOZ Perl index
 * Perl Outsourcing Stats
 * Perl Tutorial
 * Wikipedia:Perl

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BFN

BFN may refer to:
 * Internet slang for "Bye for now"
 * BfN, the Federal Office for Nature Conservation in Germany
 * Star Wars: Episode I: Battle for Naboo, a video game released for the Nintendo 64 and Microsoft Windows
 * Plants vs. Zombies: Battle for Neighborville, a 2019 video game in the Plants vs. Zombies franchise
 * Bram Fischer International Airport, IATA code

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Software testing/Glossary

Anomaly

 * In software testing an anomaly is everything that differs from expectation. This expectation can result from a document or also from a persons notion or experiences. Also an anomaly can be a feature or an usability problem, because the testobject may be correct regarding the specification - but it can be improved. Another possibility for an anomaly is that a tester executed the testcase wrong and therefore the expected result is also wrong.
 * see here for more info.
 * (see IEEE 1044-1993: Standard Classification for Software Anomalies., page 1, The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc., New York, USA, 1994, ISBN 1-55937-383-0)
 * For the United States Department of Defense (DoD) an anomaly in test is an event that occurs outside the scope of the test, but affects the test. For example, a lightening strike knocks out the power or a tester uses the wrong test plan. Unexpected test results which indicate a system weakness are called deficiencies. Initially, all unexpected results are viewed as deficiencies until analysis shows they are anomalies. For example, if power is suddenly cut off to the entire neighborhood resulting in an abnormal end to testing, analysis must show the power outage was not caused by the system under test before it is labeled an anomaly.
 * See DoDI 5000.02: Operation of the Defense Acquisition System and many service-specific instructions on deficiencies; there are no DoD documents on anomalies because they are of no value by DoD definition.

Software

 * Is more than just source code. There belongs also: programs, procedures and documentation, and data for the concerning processing on a computer system. We (the tutors of this course) count also any testware.
 * (see IEEE 610-1990: The collection of computer programs, procedures and data, together with possibly associated documentation necessary to understand, install and use it.)

Testware

 * Including any kind of products, which is helpful for testing. Especially persons from the testing field produce these:
 * test plans, test cases, test reports, anomaly reports, input files/scripts for test tools, ...
 * They all should be reusable and therefore managed by configuration management.

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Uijin

Uijin was a Japanese alternative idol girl group that formed in 2016. They debuted on July 5, 2017, with Stay Hungry, Stay Foooolish. The group disbanded on January 5, 2020.

Members

 * Ary (ありぃ)
 * Hitochibi (ひとちび)
 * Yayoi (やよい)
 * Rin (りん)

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Reinfeld Abbey

Reinfeld Abbey (Kloster Reinfeld) was a Cistercian monastery in Reinfeld near Bad Oldesloe in Schleswig-Holstein in northern Germany.

History
The monastery was founded in 1186 by monks from the Cistercian abbey of Loccum on a site given to them by Adolf III, Count of Schauenburg and Holstein. The Cistercians particularly sought wild and desolate sites for their monastic houses, and the site at Reinfeld, then consisting of marshy depressions along the valley of the Heilsau, met this requirement exactly: the foundation charter refers to it as a locus horroris ("place of horror").

The first community consisted of an abbot, Hartmann, and 12 monks. During their clearance and draining of the swampy ground, the monks dug out a large number of ponds, later used for fish (especially carp), some of which remain to this day. The monastery, once established, became prosperous, and acquired many estates. The community built up a close relationship with the city of Lübeck, and the abbot was permitted his own gate in the city walls.

With the approach of the Reformation, however, the relationship collapsed: the citizens of Lübeck stormed and burnt the abbey in 1534, and although it was re-built, in 1582 it was dissolved, and its assets taken over by the King of Denmark. The buildings were demolished.

The site was later used for the construction of a castle, which was itself demolished in 1775, and the stone quarried for other buildings. Little now remains on the site, apart from the fishponds and the precinct wall.

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Yvan Bia

Yvan Bia (born 14 August 1935) is a French field hockey player. He competed in the men's tournament at the 1960 Summer Olympics.

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diat

Alternative forms

 * (when preceding a verb)

Pronoun

 * 1) Third-person plural pronoun: they (many), them (many)

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User:Khanassassin/Sandbox: G

Beneath a Steel Sky: Remastered is an enhanced remake of the classic 1994 point-and-click adventure game Beneath a Steel Sky developed by Revolution Software. Released for the iPhone on October 7, 2009, the remake features fully-animated cut scenes, a hint system, and remastered sound. The player assumes the role of Robert Foster using a touch user interface. The remake follows the story of the original game.

In 2009, Revolution opened a new development division, Revolution Pocket, which would aim to develop titles for modern handhelds. Comic book artist Dave Gibbons previously worked with Revolution on Beneath a Steel Sky, and teamed up with game director Charles Cecil to work on Beneath a Steel Sky: Remastered, making it Revolution Pocket's debut title. Met with highly positive reviews and solid sales, Beneath a Steel Sky: Remastered is often listed as one of the greatest adventure games on the iPhone.

Gameplay
Beneath a Steel Sky: Remastered is a 2D adventure game played from a third-person perspective. Via a touch user interface, the player guides protagonist Robert Fister through the game's world and interacts with the environment by selecting from multiple commands. The player controls George's movements and actions with a mouse or a gamepad. George must collect various objects, which can then be used with other collectible objects, parts of the scenery, or with other people in order to solve puzzles and progress in the game. George can also engage in dialogue with other characters through conversation trees to gain hints of what needs to be done to solve the puzzles or progress the plot. It follows the story of the original game.

Reception
Beneath a Steel Sky: Remastered was met with highly positive reviews. The game sold 60 thousand copies in its opening month.

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Talk:German/Lesson 7

Untitled
It's actually -zig not -ßig. The only number where it's -ßig is dreißig. Everywhere else, -zig.

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negligent entrustment

Noun

 * 1)  A tort cause of action that arises where a party is injured because the other party entrusted a dangerous instrumentality (such as a vehicle or a weapon) to a person whom the other party knew or reasonably should have known should not be trusted with that instrumentality.

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Hamid Fawzi

Hamid Fawzi (born 1 July 1939) is a former Iraqi football goalkeeper who played for Iraq between 1965 and 1966. He was called up for the 1966 Arab Nations Cup.

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John Murray, Lord Bowhill

John Murray (c. 1667 – 24 March 1714) was a Scottish lawyer and politician.

He was a Commissioner to the Parliament of Scotland for Selkirk from 1689 to 1702 and for Selkirkshire from 1702 until the Act of Union 1707. He was one of the Scottish representatives to the first Parliament of Great Britain, but may not have taken his seat as he was appointed a Lord of Session as Lord Bowhill on 7 June 1707.

Family
He is the second son of John Murray and Anne Douglas, and a brother of James Murray, Lord Philiphaugh. By his mother, he is a first cousin of Archibald Douglas, 13th of Cavers. He is also the grandfather of James Murray.

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User:DangItMia/sandbox

= Sam Bowles =

Samuel (Sam) Joseph Bowles is an American Social media personality who has gained a large following by posting a few viral videos on TikTok.

Early Life
Sam Bowles was born in Chicago, Illinois on November 24, 2003. He later moved to Findlay, Ohio in January 2004, and then again to Duncansville, Pennsylvania a year later. He lived there for six years with his mother, father, and younger sister, and then they moved to Everett, Washington, where he still resides today.

Since he was young, Sam has always been interested in the performing arts, specifically film and television. Lots of home movies were produced with the help of his parents and a video camera. When he was eight years old, he created a YouTube channel called "Kidzinwa," that featured the other neighborhood children, thus the name "Kidz in WA." Contrary to Sam's aspirations when he was young, this channel did not get very much traffic, but this didn't stop him from creating content, posted online or otherwise.

Sam downloaded Musical.ly in 2016 after seeing his peers using it. When the app was merged into TikTok in 2018, he quit using it for awhile, and later, in January 2020, he decided to download it again, hoping to become a big creator, such as Charli D'Amelio or Noah Schnapp.

Recognition
After a bit of a rocky start, Sam started to gain views, specifically after a video of him pouring a bucket of water over a sidewalk chalk got a significantly larger view count than the rest of his videos. Viewers urged him to repost the same video with music over it, which he did to a cover of the song Sunday Morning (Maroon 5 song) on April 26, 2020. This video got over 1.3 million likes, and was reposted on Daily Dose of Internet's Youtube channel, as well as plenty of Instagram "Satisfying Videos" accounts.

On July 4, 2020, after creating much more sidewalk chalk content in the hopes of getting views, Sam uploaded a video of a drawing he had created of a US map.. Although it got less views than his previous viral video, this video gained Sam thousands of followers.

Sam continues to create content for TikTok account today as a hobby.

Personal Life
Sam practices Presbyterianism and has made videos about Bible stories.

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risca

Noun

 * 1) stripe long, straight region of a colour; parting (of the hair)

Etymology
..

Verb

 * 1)  to risk
 * 2)  to risk, jeopardise something of one’s own
 * 3)  to risk oneself, take a risk
 * 1)  to risk, jeopardise something of one’s own
 * 2)  to risk oneself, take a risk
 * 1)  to risk oneself, take a risk
 * 1)  to risk oneself, take a risk
 * 1)  to risk oneself, take a risk

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User:Fasten/Reply

Reply

The green frame means "please reply".

Usage:

See also: User:Fasten/ReplyPolicy, User:Fasten/ReplyN

 * By the way:
 * Is there a method for creating and editing named sections?

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