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Talk:Derrick Bell

Factual errors
"At the time, of the university's 90 tenured professors, only three were black and five were women."

Not right: 1. The source (an Answers.com article) says 60 tenured professors, not 90. 2. Harvard University had over 600 tenured faculty in 1990 (60 would be absurdly low for a university of nearly 20,000 students). The source article seems to mean the Law School, which indeed had 57 tenured professors, of which five were women. (The Law School is only one of many schools that make up the university.)

http://www.provost.harvard.edu/institutional_research/archive/1990_1991_Fact_Book.pdf

RonnyO75 (talk) 18:58, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

In the section "As an Author," a previous editor misattributes quotes and ideas (originally from Noel Ignatiev) as belonging to Derrick Bell. One need only click on the cited article to see that the piece is quoting the writing of Noel Ignatiev.

 * One of Bell's most controversial works, "When Race Becomes Real: Black and White Writers Confront Their Personal Histories" published in 2002, advocated the destruction of the white race and white people as a whole, which drew much criticism from both media outlets and the general public who was unfamiliar with his work. He claimed preemptively that it wasn't racist to wish for the destruction of the white race, and instead claimed it was actually anti-royalism.[16]

--<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 00:14, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Has he passed?
There are reports on Facebook that Professor Bell passed away. We should probably wait on NYU confirmation before changing anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 04:48, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Tape of Obama speaking
Why does it matter who uncovered the tape? Was it deliberately hidden or something? What I'm saying is that there doesn't seem to be any reason to plaster Breitbart's name onto this. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 21:40, 7 March 2012 (UTC)venomlash
 * People are fiddling around with the reference used for this tape. Changing from one supposed biased source to another one. -- T HE F OUNDERS I NTENT  PRAISE 02:54, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Why did you (apparently) add the "dubious" flag to the reference? Whatever the source, is the video a hoax? It seems pretty real to me (and uncontroversial too). -- Prothonotar (talk) 03:19, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Just remember folks, Paul Revere was warning the British. Keep that "fact" in mind when reviewing recent edits.--Milowent • hasspoken  04:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Really!? A swipe at Sarah Palin is your comment?  I bet you think you are clever.  Arzel (talk) 05:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Its not a swipe at Sarah, its a swipe at people who edited the paul revere articles and got smacked down in press reports for doing so.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Ah, the radicals are rushing to the aid of the memory of another radical, trying to sweep history under the rug when it exposes uncomfortable facts and threatens to expose their subversive schemes. It reduces Wikipedia to the status of a cheap soap box for the lunatic fringe to spout discredited political and social theories.  Let's just stick to the facts:  Did it or did it not happen?  Is there or isn't there a videotape recording? — QuicksilverT @ 21:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * i think you're putting up your own soapbox there, quicksilver. radical is "your" own value judgment about this man, as is "discredited political and social theories" and thus should be entirely irrelevant to the content of this article. to the facts: yes, derrick bell advocated for racial and gender equality at HLS. yes, this caused quite a stirr at the time. yes, he was filmed on at least one occasion during that campaign. and yes, one of his (many) students would later go on and become president of the USA. personally i do not see the relevance of this tape to this particular article. there is no new revelation that can be gathered from the tape, contrary to what the angry parrots in media are now saying. neither bell, nor obama can be seen saying anything revelatory or sensational on these tapes. and bell himself has documented the case rather well in his book, which should serve as a far better source than any filmic account. --<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 23:16, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

On March 8, 2012, The Young Turks showed this video with the following information - Buzzfeed showed Obama's speech, but did not show Obama hugging Derrick Bell. According to The Young Turks' Cenk Uygur, this was shown on PBS without voice over in 2008, contrary to what Ben Shapiro and Joel Pollak from Breitbart.com claimed on Sean Hannity's show on Fox News. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=tnY3sVimtKo Jtyroler (talk) 15:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Please lock to prevent imminent vandalism
The GOP is currently conducting a smear campaign against Professor Bell. I know because I am a deep undercover double agent at a famous Republican's campaign. This page will be vandalized. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 00:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

 * We don't lock articles because of the potential of vandalism. The best solution is for experienced editors committed to the neutral point of view to put this article on their watch lists. This is a biography that should cover Derrick Bell's entire life and career. It should not give undue weight to his relationship with a law student who happened to become president 17 years later.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  05:46, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

 * "deep undercover double agent at a famous Republican's campaign" who posts from somewhere who's IP address is not only recorded, but quite visible? (<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 17:16, 8 March 2012 (UTC))
 * Seems to be a joke.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  19:38, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Sounds paranoid and delusional. What's next?  The IP address is within a block assigned to Comcast Communications, so it could be practically anywhere in the U.S. — QuicksilverT @ 21:08, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

In Popular Media
Instead of raising NPOV issues by talking about a "right wing attack," this section (or a new section) should raise the issue of how much President Obama was influenced by Derrick Bell, and in what ways. That is a more appropriate discussion in an article on a scholar than whether an attempt to establish an association constitutes an "attack" or not.Davidwhittle (talk) 23:39, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If you can explain exactly how an unbiased encyclopedia would venture to discuss how one individual has been influenced by another, without grossly violating WP:NPOV, I'd be interested in hearing your formula. X4n6 (talk) 04:14, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I was hugged by my aunt once. I'M A CHANGED MAN.  IDiots.--Milowent • hasspoken  04:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If a genuinely reliable source, rather than a publication with an ideological axe to grind, wrote a scholarly piece on how Derrick Bell influenced Barack Obama's understanding of the law, then that would be an appropriate reference for our biography of Barack Obama, or a related Barack Obama article. But in general, we don't make lists of people that scholars influenced. Can you imagine how long that list would be in the case of Charles Darwin or Albert Einstein or Sigmund Freud? Let's discuss such an outstanding source on Bell's influence if (and when) it is brought forward. Not now.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  04:28, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

 * I agree completely with these replies, and in fact I eliminated the section and integrated the relevant actual facts - not POV speculation - into other sections.  Let's remember this is Bell's bio of his career and life.  Also - I reinstated the description of Lani Guinier as an African American woman because the point of Bell's protest was specifically that there were no minority women on the faculty -that his replacement was an African American woman is of note, and that she is a woman, and African American would not necessarily be apparent to people who don't know who she is, didn't live through her AG nomination. Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't see how that is POV or bias - it's a fact relevant to Bell as it is exactly what he was raising the university community's consciousness about - his leaving paved the way for the beginning of the correction of the diversity problem as he hoped so I believe it is valuable for our readers to understand that. But I'm open to hearing why that's not appropriate. Tvoz / talk 08:41, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is pretty much everything I wanted to say, only more eloquent than I could have put it. Concur completely, and I'm restoring the relevant text. Gamaliel (talk) 18:28, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 March 2012
Please add the following to Derrek Bell's page. It seems as though his military history was "mysteriously" deleted!!!!!!

Military/Wartime Service: U.S. Air Force, 1952-54; served in Korea.

In the early 1950s, a young African American Air Force lieutenant named Derrick Bell was stationed in Louisiana, near a small town whose Presbyterian church was for whites only. A Presbyterian himself, Bell thought it unseemly that a house of worship would close its doors to believers of a different skin color. So one Sunday he put on his uniform and asked to attend the church service. The stunned parishioners reluctantly granted him a place--a pew of his own in the balcony. But Bell did not stop there; he liked to sing in his hometown church in Pittsburgh, and he asked the minister if the choir would now make room for one more voice. "I'm not on some God-driven mission," Bell was quoted as saying in the New York Times. "But it just seemed natural that if I wanted to sing in the choir, why shouldn't I sing in the choir?"

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/derrick-bell#ixzz1p1EfGFoT

<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 17:39, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: That is a word for word copy of the source. You need to capture the same information in your own words to avoid violating the aauthor's copyright. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 04:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * In addition, Answers.com is a user-submitted website (like Wikipedia), so it is not acceptable as a reference on Wikipedia. Similarly, one Wikipedia article is not acceptable as a reference for another Wikipedia article. You need to reference a genuine reliable independent source, and you can either rewrite the material in your own words, or include a brief quote from the reliable source, in quotation marks, with a reference. Thanks for your efforts to improve this article about Derrick Bell.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  05:15, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought so at first too, but the section from which this text was taken appears to be an online copy of Black Biographies: Contemporary Black Biography, by the Gale Group. I didn't dig further once I noticed the copyvio, but I think this has the potential of being a reliable source. Celestra (talk) 14:26, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

copyvio tag
I am copying my explanation of the copy-paste tag here from User talk:Cullen328:

The answers.com page contains both Wikipedia text AND other sources. There are sections of the wikipedia article that are copied from the Gale Contemporary Black Biography text on the answers.com page (NOT the Wikipedia text). For instance, the following text appears in both the Gale article and the Wikipedia article:
 * Bell established a new course in civil rights law at Harvard, publishing a celebrated case book, Race, Racism and American Law, and producing a steady stream of law review articles. As a teacher, Bell became a mentor and rolemodel  to a generation of students of color, but he played a delicate balancing act at the university.
 * Bell became the first black tenured professor in Harvard Law School's history and called on the university to improve its minority hiring record. But shortly after his tenure in 1971, a white university vice-president tried to purchase a house that Bell had been offered through a school program; Bell saw this as a blatant case of discrimination. This was only the first case in which Bell's charges of racism would mobilize his supporters, who championed his efforts to stand up for principle, and anger his detractors, who accused him of being too quick with his allegations of bigotry.

There are several other examples. I know its a bit confusing because the answers.com page includes wikipedia text, but this is very clearly copyvio. GabrielF (talk) 01:52, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Moved the tag to the affected section; started to work on rewriting and adding other sources - hope others will join in. Note that the copyvio issues are from the Gale bio which should get the citation - that should be looked at and fixed. The answers.com piece seems to be a combo of Gale and Wiki. Tvoz / talk 07:45, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

 * First, I'm not entirely convinced that Answers.com meets WP:RS. But I am convinced that deploying it as justification for using a racial identifier here, especially where no direct quotes are used, is pretty thin at best and very likely is a vio of WP:UNDUE. Unlike that website, here if someone really has any interest in her ethnicity, they can simply follow the link to her BLP - where, incidentally, she is identified as being of Jewish and African-American descent - thereby making the statement factually inaccurate and also a BLP vio. So, per WP:GRAPEVINE, I have removed it again. Please trust the reader to link to the subject's BLP if they feel the need for additional information. X4n6 (talk) 23:32, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're confusing two things - answers.com was not used in connection with Guinier's ethnicity, which is now sourced and its direct relevance to Bell's bio demonstrated.  Answers.com is actuially Gale Biograhy which is decent source, but we have to get rid of the cut and paste that someone did at some point, as GabrielF pointed out.  I've started to rewrite those sections but hope that others will do so too.  Tvoz / talk 07:45, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, both in the sourcing and the context. The rewrite now gives a relevant context for the racial identifier that was not there before. So in that context, it's fine. X4n6 (talk) 22:39, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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It did not "take" until 1998 for Harvard law to hire a black woman as a professor; expressing history from a biased perspective such as it "taking" a certain amount of time for an action to happen is not acceptable on wikipedia. Harvard law was not under existential pressure from the cosmos to hire a black woman. The way the article was worded implied that Derrick Bell is on the side of universal justice and that Harvard's later hiring of Guinier was indicative of them caving in to his demands, rather than merely Harvard's choice to hire a certain qualified individual at a later date. This biased viewpoint has been removed from the article.

Implicit Bias in Tone
It did not "take" until 1998 for Harvard Law to hire a black woman as a professor; expressing history from a biased perspective such as it "taking" a certain amount of time for an action to happen is not acceptable on wikipedia. Harvard Law was not under existential pressure from the cosmos to hire a black woman. The way the article was worded implied that Derrick Bell is on the side of universal justice and that Harvard's later hiring of Guinier was indicative of them caving in to his demands, rather than merely Harvard's choice to hire a certain qualified individual at a later date. This biased viewpoint has been removed from the article.

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Teaching section
This section, which is mostly based on WP:PRIMARY sources published by the author of the section itself, is not neutral in tone at all. Statements such as "He would have food and drink for the students during the break in the middle of every class" are irrelevant to Bell's teachings. A statement like "Professor Bell was well known for his kindness to students. Media often missed the fact that even conservative white male students liked him personally, because he encouraged and invited them to challenge his views and gave them space to do so in his classes" is unverifiable and seems like it is trying to defend the subject of the article against perceived attacks. This section as of know does not belong in an encylopedia, and needs either attention from an expert: a total rewrite with proper sources and focus on his actual teachings, or removal altogether. RWalen (talk) 09:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Shorten reference list
any takers to shorten the reference list? It's way too long that people can get overwhelmed by it Jmontanao (talk) 19:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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Church and Convent of Saint Antony

The Church and Convent of Saint Antony (Igreja e Convento de Santo António) is a 17th-century Roman Catholic church located in Igarassu, Pernambuco, Brazil. It was constructed by the Franciscans during the settlement of Pernambuco, and was the third Franciscan convent in Brazil. It was destroyed during the Dutch occupation of Brazil and is dedicated to is dedicated to Saint Anthony. The church was rebuilt late in the 16th century and sits adjacent to the Church of Saints Cosme and Damião, the oldest functioning church in Brazil. It was designated a historic structure by National Institute of Historic and Artistic Heritage (IPHAN) in 1938. The church and convent are located in the Historic Center of Igarassu, itself protected as an urban architectural ensemble since 1972.

Early history
The Franciscans arrived in Brazil in the 16th century. They built their first convent and church in Pernambuco 1585 at Olinda on a site now occupied by the Church of Our Lady of the Snows and Franciscan Convent. This was followed by the Church and Convent of São Francisco in Salvador in 1587. The date of construction of the first Church and Convent of Saint Antony is uncertain, but the art historian Germain Bazin dates it to 1588. Igarassu became the second-most important city in Pernambuco before the Dutch occupation of Brazil.

Dutch occupation
The church and convent were pillaged during the Dutch occupation of Brazil from 1630 to 1654. The church was first attacked and pillaged on May 1, 1632 during mass, and reoccupied in 1635. The Franciscan monks were arrested in 1639 for maintaining contact with Franciscans in Salvador, Bahia. They were deported to the Itamaraca Island. The church and convent were abandoned until 1654 with the departure of the Dutch.

The church and convent appear in an engraving by the Dutch humanist Caspar Barlaeus (1584–1648). Barlaeus published Rerum per octennium in Brasilia et alibi nuper gestarum sub praefectura in 1647, which included an engraving of the Church and Convent of Saint Antony among a collection of maps, cityscapes, and landscapes. The Dutch artist Frans Post (1612–1680) depicted the church and convent in a painting now located in the Silesian Museum of Fine Arts in Breslau, Germany. Dutch documentation describe a church and convent with all of the characteristics of a Franciscan convent of the period.

Later history
The church and convent were in an state of advanced ruin after the Dutch occupation. The friar and superior Eusébio da Expectação planned a reconstruction of the church between 1661 and 1665. These were likely completed in 1693, and includes a cloister resembling those of other Franciscan convents in Northeast Brazil. Further work between 1705 and 1718 included the monumental façade. The façade and plan of the reconstructed Igarassu church and convent closely resembles those in Bahia: the Church and Convent of Saint Antony and Chapel of the Third Order in São Francisco do Conde (1629); the Convent and Church of Saint Anthony in Cairu (1650); and the Convent and Church of Saint Antony in Cachoeira (1658).

A school for novices was established in the 17th century.

The church and convent were used as a headquarters by revolutionary troops in the Praieira Revolution of in 1848. It was then used by the Congregation of Our Lady of Charity of Good Shepherd, of Angers, France, which maintained a school under the auspices of the state of Pernambuco. It now houses the Pinacoteca Museum of Igarassu (Museu Pinacoteca de Igarassu).

Structure
The Church and Convent of Saint Antony is built in the Franciscan Baroque style of colonial Brazil.

The façade of the church in Igarassu dates to 1660 and was subsequently renovated. It is decided into three parts horizontally and five parts vertically. The lower horizontal level has a galilee porch with three arches and a single door to the church nave. The second level has three rectangular windows at the choir level above the entrance with red shutters. A monumental pediment over the lower levels has volutes, pinnacles, and is surmounted by a cross. The pediment maintains a monogram of the Portuguese Crown and another of the Holy Spirit.

The vertical sections of the façade are divided by pilasters, with the outermost sections surmounted by volutes. The belltower sits recessed from façade, and is topped by pyramid, tiled pediment. The windows of the belltower are of a different design than those of the façade. Germain Bazin links its construction to that of the Franciscan Third Order chapel, built between 1753 and 1762 on the north side of the church.

A large cross on a pedestal is located in the churchyard, a feature common to Franciscan convents in Brazil. It is smaller and simpler than the monumental crucifix of the Church and Convent of São Francisco in Salvador or the Franciscan convents in Cachoeira and Cairu.

Interior
A renovation in the mid-18th century resulted in the addition of richly designed interior design elements. It has a large number of panels of azulejos similar to those found across Franciscan colonial churches across Brazil. The interior also has a collection of baroque woodcarving and gilding, and fine carved furniture. The barrel vault of the nave has a large ceiling painting by an anonymous artist; it depicts the lives of the Franciscan saints Bernardino of Siena, Didacus of Alcalá, Paschal Baylón, and Peter de Regalado. The wall segments of the nave are curved, an architectural feature rare in the Northeast region of Brazil. The sacristy is likewise richly decorated. It has a large lavabo, a basin for hand washing, made of lioz marble imported from Portugal.

Convent
The convent has two floors with windows and doors with straight lintels on the ground floor. The upper floor has windows surmounted by a half depressed arch.

Third Order chapel
The Third Order Brotherhood of Saint Francis was founded in 1753. The brotherhood built a chapel in the same year, with its foundation stone dated November 15, 1753; the structure was completed in 1762. The chapel was built perpendicular to the north side of the First Order church, but was destroyed and is now lost.

Pinacoteca Museum of Igarassu
The Pinacoteca Museum of Igarassu opened at the church and convent in 1957. It houses one of the most important collections of Franciscan art in Latin America. It includes 24 paintings from the 17th and 18th centuries, notably those from the Church of São Cosme e São Damião in Igarassu. Four paintings depict an epidemic that devastated Pernambuco in 1685.

Protected status
The Church and Convent of Saint Antony was listed as a historic structure by the National Institute of Historic and Artistic Heritage in 1938. It is listed in the Book of Historical Works process no. 131.

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Photography

Photography is the process of making photographs by exposing light over a controlled amount of time to a light-sensitive medium, such as a digital sensor or photographic film. This is done through a device known as a camera. Cameras are essentially light-proof boxes that house the light-sensitive material.

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For handheld photo- and videography, practice steady and stable holding. This enables prolonged exposure times, leading to brighter low-light photos at same light sensitivity, even more so if supported by optical image stabilisation.

For low-light handheld photography, consider using a short self-timer such as two or three seconds to avoid causing a shake during exposure by pressing the shutter button. This is especially necessary if the camera supports zero shutter lag/delay, but the firmware can not optimize low light photographs from multiple still images.

If one does approach learning photography with a film camera, it is a good idea to spend time learning how to develop the negatives and make prints, which allows the photographer employ further techniques such as push processing and an appreciation of the chemical processes involved in the craft of creating analog photographic images. Digital cameras provide instant feedback, which allows one to learn from their photograph on the spot and perhaps make another attempt.

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Cookbook:Roasting

Roasting is high-heat baking with very little moisture. Roasted foods get drier and browned on the outside by initially exposing it to a high temperature. Temperature is then lowered to cook the meat through. The flavors of both meats and vegetables are retained and enhanced by roasting. A typical roasting temperature is 425-450 °F, sometimes with an initial temperature of over 500 °F for a period of 15 to 20 minutes.

You can either roast in an oven or over an open fire. Spit-roasting is a variation where the meat is impaled on a spit and rotated as it roasts.

Once meat has been removed from the roasting environment it should be allowed to rest, this ensures that the juice inside the meat returns to the outer edges. The even distribution of juice allows each slice to retain more moisture. Un-rested meat is typically dry around the edge and over saturated in the middle, leading to a loss of moisture.

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Talk:Dorothy Rabinowitz

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is she Jewish?

More importantly HOW OLD IS THIS WOMAN? 80? 90?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 17:18, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Why is that notable?DougHill (talk) 20:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC) Given what she has written for "Institute of Human Relations Press, American Jewish Committee" (now listed on the page), perhaps that is notable. But I only know that she has written for them.DougHill (talk) 18:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

It's not only "notable", but important because she argues that Jews have a right to spy on the USA for Israel. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/sp-raimondo.html<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 08:57, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Political commentary
Steve Dufour wrote (with his edit): "no special reason to mention these remarks when her whole career consists of making remarks on political figures and issues". I see your point. The previous quotes were meant to offer a sample of her writing, but you are quite right that others could be used. But does this mean that none should be used? Anyway, her early support of McCain is notable, I think something should be mentioned, so I've restored the mention and the citations without the quotation.DougHill (talk) 19:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Good god, the political commentary section is a complete joke. I just love it when the people who edit these entries don't even try to hide their biases and the disgust they feel towards people with whom they disagree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 04:41, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Rabinowitz Apology
I read reference 13 and did not see anything that supported the statement that Rabinowitz apologized for her poor reporting presumably about the Broderick rape affair other than the bare no context quote that she was not a hard news reporter.

Well, duh. The business of the WSJ editorial staff is opinion. She gave her opinion and the reasons for it. That this opinion as to the facts was not carried or shared by a news department, even the WSJ news department, is not in itself anything that calls for an apology.

Moreover, I believe this whole Political Commentary section should be stkicken as a fiercely partisan rehash of Nation and Solon mostly ad moninem attacks on the WSJ editorial board in general and Rabinowitz in particular.

Personal life
Since this person is a cultural and political commentator, I think it would be worth the article setting out what is known of her personal life, upbringing, any interests she might have, that would let people put her comments into context. So far this is a bit of a Newspaper biog stub. iPhil (talk) 22:02, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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Non-Programmer's Tutorial for Python 2.6

For Python 3, see Non-Programmer's Tutorial for Python 3.

Contents

 * /Authors/
 * Contributors to this book

 * Front matter
 * Initial remarks

 * Intro
 * Installing and using Python – where to get help

 * Hello, World
 * The famous first program – screen output – numbers and calculations

 * Who Goes There?
 * Interactive input – strings

 * Count to 10
 * while loops

 * Decisions
 * if statements

 * Debugging
 * Finding out what goes wrong

 * Defining Functions
 * Structuring programs with the use of functions

 * Advanced Functions Example
 * (Almost) mind-blowing example of how programmers can think

 * Lists
 * Variables containing more than one value

 * For Loops
 * A second kind of loop

 * Boolean Expressions
 * Computer logic – true and false – and and or – not

 * Dictionaries
 * Variables containing key/value pairs

 * Using Modules
 * Extensions to the standard set of functionality

 * More on Lists
 * Using elements or parts of lists

 * Revenge of the Strings
 * Advanced text manipulation

 * File IO
 * Reading from files and writing to files

 * Dealing with the imperfect
 * How to handle errors

 * The End
 * How to go further

 * FAQ
 * Some frequently asked questions

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Red Cross (EP)

Red Cross, a six-song punk rock EP record, is the first stand-alone release by American rock band Red Cross.

Background
On August 29, 1979, the day after Ron Reyes joined them on drums, replacing John Stielow, McDonald brothers' middle school punk rock band, the Tourists, would change their name to "Red Cross". Soon after, on September 6, they would go into a recording studio for the first time, accompanied by Joe Nolte, leader of Los Angeles rock band The Last, who produced their session at Media Art Studio in Hermosa Beach, California. However, when Red Cross signed not long after with Posh Boy Records, its owner, Robbie Fields, didn't like the Nolte recordings, so, he would get most of the songs to be re-recorded.

Only one of the cuts from the Nolte session would be later released. "Rich Brat" was included on the 1982 New Underground Records compilation album Life Is Ugly So Why Not Kill Yourself.

"'By September [1979], Red Cross had saved up enough money to record a demo, booking some time at Media Arts for their first recording session. 'I came home one night, real tired, and all I wanted to do was curl up and go to sleep,' ... 'They said, 'We're going to the studio tonight, and we don't know what to do.' So I ended up producing the session, after drinking three cups of coffee. We had fun, and they sounded good, and I sorta liked the recordings. Their label, Posh Boy, hated them though, and made them record everything again.'"

In 1980, six tracks from the Posh Boy recording session were included on The Siren, a sampler LP shared with San Francisco power pop band 391, and Salt Lake City punk rock act Spittin' Teeth. Their participation in this album would be the recorded debut for Red Cross; so, their following release, the Red Cross EP, would be but a stand-alone reissue of those same songs.

Production
All songs on Red Cross were originally recorded with producer and engineer Roger Harris at the Shelter Studios in Hollywood, California on October 1, 1979. The mixing was done at Paradise Studios in Burbank, California.

Release
Red Cross was first released in 1980 on Posh Boy Records,  in 12-inch vinyl disc format. The first pressing, without any cover art, came with pinkish-red labels and packaged in a generic, multicolored die-cut record sleeve.

Reissues
In 1981, Red Cross was included, in its entirety, on the rare cassette tape version of the Beach Blvd compilation issued by Posh Boy Records.

By 1985, Red Cross was re-released featuring its own cover art, and disc labels printed in black and red on a silver background. This same edition would be repressed the year after.

A new repressing was released in 1987, featuring disc labels printed in black on a silver background and packaged in a generic record company sleeve as the original release.

In 1987, Posh Boy repackaged The Future Looks Bright, a sampler album originally produced by the label, jointly with SST Records, in 1981. Retitled as The Future Looks Brighter, this edition featured only artists from the Posh Boy roster. The complete Red Cross EP was added to the CD version.

In late 1987, the EP was reissued under the title Annette's Got the Hits, featuring alternate cover art but keeping the same catalog number and the old disc labels from the 1985 re-release.

In 1990, Posh Boy issued the single "Cover Band", bundled with "Burn Out" on its flip side.

In 1991, Annette's Got the Hits was included in the numbered 3-EP box set The Posh E.P.'s Vol. 1, in conjunction with Stepmothers' 1981 EP All Systems Go and an untitled six-track EP featuring Social Distortion's early songs recorded in 1981.

In 2020 a 40th Anniversary edition was reissued by Merge Records with the original rejected Joe Nolte (leader of Los Angeles rock band The Last) session tracks from September 1979 added and one live track recorded in July 1979 by 'The Tourists', the original band name before they changed it to Red Cross in August 1979.

Cover art
The original cover art for Red Cross, informally referred to as "the red cover", shows the band's name on a red background, written, with its original spelling, in uppercase white letters resembling strips of medical tape.

On the cover art for Annette's Got the Hits, a photomontage in sepia, portraying the four band members performing live, is displayed on a dark grey background. The original spelling of the group's name is changed to "Redd Kross".

Re-recordings
After Greg Hetson left Red Cross to join the Circle Jerks in December 1979,  a controversial alternate version of his song "Cover Band", reworked with new lyrics by Keith Morris, was featured as "Live Fast Die Young" on his new band's first studio album, Group Sex, released in October 1980 on Frontier Records.

Personnel
Red Cross
 * Jeff McDonald – vocals
 * Greg Hetson – guitar
 * Steve McDonald – bass, vocals
 * Ron Reyes – drums

Production
 * Robbie Fields – executive in charge of production
 * Roger Harris – production, engineering

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Joseph Richardson Sr.

Joseph Richardson Sr. (September 28, 1711 - 1784) was an American silversmith, active in Philadelphia. He has been described as one of the greatest silversmiths of his time.

Richardson was born in Philadelphia to silversmith Francis Richardson II (November 25, 1684 - August 17, 1729), and advertised in the Pennsylvania Gazette from 1744-1784 as goldsmith. He was a Quaker and an active member of the "Friendly Association for Regaining and Preserving Peace with the Indians by Pacific Measures." As such, he crafted many silver items for Native Americans in addition to bowls, tea sets, and other tableware. He was twice married: first to Hannah Worrell on August 13, 1741, and then to Mary Allen on April 14, 1748, with whom he had two sons (Joseph Richardson Jr. and Nathaniel Richardson), both of whom he raised as silversmiths.

His work is collected in the Art Institute of Chicago, Metropolitan Museum of Art, Philadelphia Museum of Art, Winterthur Museum, and Yale University Art Gallery.

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Talk:Knarr (keelboat)

Links
Why are there two links to the German Wikipedia? --<IP_ADDRESS> 21:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
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Pages
Why are there two pages for one type of ship, albeit with slightly different spelling (knarr, knaar, personally the books I read use knorr). —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 16:39, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
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Why move to "type of yacht"? Knarr(keelboat) would be more in line with other articles Minnesota1 04:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
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German vocabulary/Greetings and Phrases

(inf) = informal (for) = formal Lit. = Literally
 * Key

Greetings used throughout Germany
 * Guten Morgen - Good Morning
 * Guten Tag - Good Day, Good Afternoon (Note: Germans don't normally say Good Afternoon).
 * Guten Mittag - Good noon. (very rare)
 * Guten Abend - Good Evening ~ After Work; regional? past 17:00 or 18:00
 * Gute Nacht - Good Night ~ reserved for right before bedtime

 * Hallo - Hello (Note: Informal: used when speaking to people with whom you are on familiar terms).

Greetings specific to southern Germany
 * Grüss Gott (God's greetings -- used predominantly in the South of Germany such as Bavaria and also in Austria)
 * Grützi! (used in German speaking Switzerland)

Greetings specific to Austria
 * Servus - Hello, Good Day, Good bye (used predominantly in Austria/Vienna and Bavaria, colloquial, informal only)

Informal and Formal
Germans, to those that are of higher authority or people that they do not know, use formal phrases--such as Guten Morgen and Guten Tag. Informal phrases, such as Tschüss, are used with friends/people you know well. If you were to meet with your teacher (Der Lehrer), you would use formal phrases such as Guten Morgen instead of Hallo, and likewise: Auf Wiedersehen instead of Tschüss.

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Talk:Dolores Claman

Cite "second national anthem"
As in the Hockey Night in Canada page, the statement that the Hockey Night in Canada theme is "often regarded as Canada's second national anthem" needs a citation. I don't disagree because I say this frequently myself, but can we find something somewhere in print? --InformationalAnarchist 17:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Ringtone
The article states that the CBC was "selling it as a cellular phone ringtone". This in not true. In fact Absolute Productions, which is Ms. Claman's licensing company, was selling the ringtone. The CBC was withholding it's approval as they thought it was a breach of their license with Ms. Claman. This is according to the statement of claim. Pillowtalkbaby (talk) 12:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

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Im a Journalism student and a casual wiki editor, Most of my edits are purely grammatical in nature, But i have been known to add information, and in some cases, cut down on the irrelevant facts in wikipedia articles.

Articles i have done serious work on include:

Hitman: Blood Money

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Koovarji Karsan Rathor

Rai Saheb Koovarji Karsan Rathor (1898–1976) was a noted Kutchi railway & civil contractor, businessman  &  philanthropist from Cuttack, India.

Life sketch
He was born to Karsan Bhima Rathor in Madhapar, who belonged to Mestri community of Kutch. His father Karsan Bhima was a noted railway contractor, who settled in Cuttack, while doing railway contract. The Shail Shree Palace in Bolangir belonging to royal family of Patna Raj was constructed in 1910 by Karsan Bhima Rathor, Jagmal Bhima Rathor & other contractor of Kutch like Parbat Vira of Khambhra. Further, Karsan Bhima and his elder brother Jagmal Bhima were the contractors, who were involved in building of railway lines from Kharagpur to Cuttack during the years 1892 to 1898 along with other contemporary Mistri contractors like Manji  Jeram of Madhapar, Khora Ramji  and others from  Sinugra,  Khambhra, etc. In 1897 they were involved in laying the lines and building the bridge over Dhelang River in Khurda Road to Puri section for Bengal Nagpur Railway, in 1902 works in Gondia - Jabalpur section, in 1906 works in Gondia - Nagbhid section and in 1910 the Tatanagar - Gorumahsini section with other Mistri railway contractors of Kutch. They have also done works of building palaces, courts & highway in erstwhile princely states of Mayurbhanj, Patna, Keonjhar & Sundargarh.

Koovarji Karsan did his primary education in Madhapar and later studied from various school in Mayurbhanj and Cuttack. He joined his father's business along with his brother Raghu Karson, as railway & civil contractor. But later he diversified into other businesses and started ice factory & flour mill in Cuttack named Bhima Ice Factory in the year 1922. Further, he also started another factory by same name at Chilika in 1928. Looking into plight of poor fisher-mans, he for many years, did not take storage charges from them. The present Ice Factory Road in Cuttack is named after their ice-factory. He also started cold storage and ice factories in Kalapada, Behrampore and Babugam. Later in 1929 he was one of the founder director of Cuttack Electric Supply Co Ltd. He also started and owned a cinema hall and several hotels with his brother Raghu Karsan and was one of the big land-owners at Cuttack. He was also noted for his philanthropy works like starting of school named Gujarati Pathshala in 1928, which was renamed Anglo-Gujarati School at Cuttack in 1941. Further, he also started a library having more than three thousand books at Cuttack in year 1931. He was given title of Rai Sahib in 1942 by British for his works in development of railways, industries and philanthropy. He also started a Dharamshala & public dispensary in Cuttack and Puri for pilgrims and also built a Shiva temple in Cuttack, in memory of his father in 1964.

In his ancestral village at Madhapar in Kutch, the huge artificial pond made by his uncle, Jagmal Bhima Rathor in 1900, is today known as Jagasagar Lake, named after its builder. His father Karasan Bhimjee also built an artificial lake with steps near Suralbhit Temple, which today is known by name Karasan Bhimjee's pond.

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omorî

Etymology
, variant of, from. Compare 🇨🇬.

, in the oldest Romanian texts.

Verb

 * 1)  to kill
 * 2)  to kill
 * 3)  to exert oneself with a responsibility
 * 4)  to mortify
 * 1)  to mortify
 * 1)  to mortify

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Jem Chapple

James "Jem" Chapple (1801/1802 - 10 June 1858) was a British Classic-winning jockey. A "first-class and thoroughly English jockey" he won the Derby-Oaks double in 1833, and a further Derby in 1838.

Career
He was born in Exeter, Devon in 1801 or 1802, but learnt his trade at Frank Neale's stable in Newmarket. He lived in Beccles, Waveney, and apart from some time spent in Northleach, Gloucestershire - rode almost exclusively at Newmarket. On his riding, it is said he worked "like a galley slave".

His greatest success came in 1833, when he won both the Derby and Oaks, riding Dangerous and 50/1 outsider Vespa respectively. The former win was not without controversy, however, as it is reported that Dangerous was a four-year-old, and thus ineligible for the Derby (a race for three-year-olds). He was also lame at the start, Chapple stating that he would not have given a pint of porter for his chance. He would go on to win a legitimate Derby in 1838 on the brown colt, Amato. This was to be the only time the horse raced, as he was injured soon after winning and retired.

After this, having won enough to fit his profession around his leisure time, Chapple rarely rode except for Sir Gilbert Heathcote, Amato's owner. Late in his career, however, he made a significant return to the track ("as fresh as paint" ) when winning the 1850 Autumn Double - the Cesarewitch on Mr Payne’s Glauca and the Cambridgeshire on Mr. Gratwicke’s Landgrave.

His last ride came on the 5/1 unplaced favourite Songstress in the 1853 Cesarewitch.

Personal life
Despite his success, Chapple did not have a particular enthusiasm for racing and never discussed it. His reputation was for being quiet, unassuming and thrifty, and he never had substantial sums on a horse, unless he knew it had a lot in hand over its rivals. He was "quite one of the old school", shunning high fashion and frippery. He married Eleanor Jennings at St Mary’s Church, Newmarket on 9 Dec 1835 and they had one daughter, Letitia Eleanor.

He was mentally alert to the end of his life, but after a period of long and gradual physical decline, he died on Thursday, 10 June 1858, leaving an estate of under £8,000. His age at death has been given as 62, but this would contradict his birth year given elsewhere. He is buried at St Laurence and St Peter, Eriswell, Suffolk.

The Hare and Hounds pub in Chalk Lane, Epsom, was renamed The Amato as a tribute to Chapple's 1838 Derby winner.

Major wins
Great Britain
 * Epsom Derby - (2) - Dangerous (1833), Amato (1838)
 * Epsom Oaks - Vespa (1833)

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