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Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Mathematics/2015 February 1

= February 1 =

"For all vertices... but at most $$\gamma n$$ of them"
I am trying to decipher this:

Let $$d(x)$$ denote the degree of $$x$$ in $$H$$, and $$d(x,y)$$ the number of edges of $$H$$ containing both $$x$$ and $$y$$. Write $$\pm\delta$$ to mean a quantity between $$-\delta$$ and $$\delta$$.

For every integer $$r\ge 2$$ and reals $$k\ge 1$$ and $$a>0$$, there are $$\gamma=\gamma(r,k,a)>0$$ and $$d_0 =d_0 (r,k,a)$$ such that for every $$n\ge D \ge d_0$$ the following holds:

Every $$r$$-uniform hypergraph $$H=(V,E)$$ on a set $$V$$ of $$n$$ vertices in which all vertices have positive degrees and which satisfies the following conditions:

 For all vertices $$x \in V$$ but at most $$\gamma n$$ of them, $$d(x)=(1\pm\gamma)D$$. For all $$x \in V$$, $$d(x) For any two distinct $$x,y \in V$$, $$d(x,y)<\gamma D$$.

contains a cover of at most $$(1+a)(n/r)$$ edges.

Specifically, I don't understand the first condition. "For all vertices" and "for at most $$\gamma n$$ vertices" seem like they contradict each other to me. --superioridad (discusión) 05:51, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * It is likely to mean "for all except at most $γn$ of them". YohanN7 (talk) 09:54, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Oh, as in "all but at most γn vertices". That makes complete sense, thank you. --superioridad (discusión) 10:47, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Fitting cylinders inside a tube
How many cylinders with an external diameter of 34.2 mm can fit inside a cylinder with an internal diameter of 153.6 mm (no overlap allowed)? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:31, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * At least 16, like so (the circles would actually touch each other, but I'm limited in what I can display here):

O  O O  O O O O O O O  O O O   O O    O

 * Or maybe 20, like so:

O   O O   O O O  O O O O O O O O  O O O   O O    O

 * Or even 26, like so:

O O O O O O O O O  O O O O O O O O  O O O O   O O O    O O

 * But I suggest you use MS Paint or some other simple drawing program to try to place them in different arrangements, to see if you can pack more in. StuRat (talk) 19:47, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * FWIW, the relevant articles are circle packing and Packing problem. -- ToE 20:19, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * And Circle packing in a circle. -- ToE 17:09, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Packing problem points to The best known packings of equal circles in a circle (complete up to N = 2600) which gives densities which should help bound your answer. If you are able to pack n circles of diameter 34.2 inside a circle of diameter 153.6, you will have achieved a density of (34.22/153.62) n ≈  0.0496 n, so your [Stu's] lowest guess of 16 would give a density of 0.793, while the optimal [best known] density for 16 circles is only 0.751.  Likewise, fitting 15 would give you a density of 0.744, greater than the optimal [best known] density of 0.734.  But you should be able to fit 14 because that gives you a density of only 0.694, far less than the optimal [best known] density of 0.747.  So the answer is 14. (And they should rattle a bit.)  -- ToE 21:10, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Something seems wrong there, as the 16 circles in a diamond arrangement shown should be at most 4 small circle diameters across at any point, and 4×34.2 < 153.6. StuRat (talk) 21:18, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * How can four circles in a row touch going across horizontally and leave room in the middle for four in a column to touch going down vertically? -- ToE 21:24, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Looks like I miscalculated by using the wrong type of symmetry for hexagonal packing. Specifically, I was thinking that a 90 degree rotation would produce the same 4 touching circles vertically, just like the 4 circles touching horizontally, but a hexagonal packing arrangement only allows for rotations in multiplies of 60 degrees, which excludes 90 degrees. StuRat (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Yeah, hexagonal packing is optimal for the plane, giving a density of π/(2√3) ≈ 0.907. This density is surpassed when packing circles for n = 1 (with a density of unity), but I'm fairly sure (though I don't know how to prove it) that the optimal density for packing a circle will alway be less than this for n > 1, but will approach this value for large n. -- ToE 22:05, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Note that the optimal solution is only exactly known for n≤13 and n=19, so if you do figure out a way to fit 15 you should write a paper on it. -- ToE 21:16, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * The site cited by ToE gives the ratio of the big radius to the small radius for each packing shown, which you want to be no more than 4.491. The best known packing of 14 has ratio 4.328, and the best known for 15 has ratio 4.521; so your answer is 14, so far as is now known. —Tamfang (talk) 21:44, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

 * And I just noticed that the site even has a calculator which answers this sort of question with both numbers and a drawing, thanks to Eckard Specht at the Otto-von-Guericke University Magdeburg. (I wonder what the relation is to the German physicist Eckehard Specht at the same institution.) -- ToE 21:52, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I find it amazing that so little is known with certainty. Makes me wonder if there is a grid computing project for finding better packings. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 14:39, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Good question. Two things I wonder are: A) Is there an easy proof that the density of packing n > 1 circles in a circle is always less than the hexagonal packing density in a plane?  I though it seemed obvious at first, but I don't know where to start with a proof.  B) For those n for which a proof is not know for the optimal density, but for which a strong lower bound is known for the density by way of a known (and perhaps conjectured optimal) packing (such as those listed in the external site), what techniques can be used to determine an upper bound for the density?  My remark about Dodger67 publishing a paper if he manages to fit in a 15th cylinder was tongue-in-cheek, but I don't know how to find out if there is an upper bound on the density for n = 15 which, while being above the achieved 0.734, is below his required 0.744, in which case 15 cylinders are known to be impossible for the particular dimensions of his cylinders. -- ToE 17:09, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

 * One arrangement of 14, BTW, is like so:

O O O O O O O O O  O O O   O O

 * That's my original 16, but without the top and bottom circles. StuRat (talk) 21:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)


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Calculus/Choosing delta

 * This page is an addendum to Calculus/Formal Definition of the Limit.

Recall the definition of a limit:

A number $$L$$ is the limit of a function $$f(x)$$ as $$x$$ approaches $$c$$ if and only if for all numbers $$\epsilon>0$$ there exists a number $$\delta>0$$ such that
 * $$\Big|f(x)-L\Big|<\epsilon$$

whenever
 * $$0<|x-c|<\delta$$.

In other words, given a number $$\epsilon$$ we must construct a number $$\delta$$ such that assuming
 * $$0<|x-c|<\delta$$

we can prove
 * $$\Big|f(x)-L\Big|<\epsilon$$

moreover, this proof must work for all values of :$$\epsilon>0$$.

Note: this definition is not constructive -- it does not tell you how to find the limit $$L$$, only how to check whether a particular value is indeed the limit. We use the informal definition of the limit, experience with similar problems, or theorems (L'Hopital's rule, for example), to determine the value, and then can prove the correctness of this value using the formal definition.

Example 1: Suppose we want to find the limit of $$f(x)=x+5$$ as $$x$$ approaches $$c=9$$. We know that the limit $$L$$ is 9+5=14, and desire to prove this.

We choose $$\delta=\epsilon$$ (this will be explained later). Then, since we assume
 * $$|x-9|<\delta$$

we can show

which is what we wanted to prove.
 * $$\Big|(x+5)-14\Big|$$
 * $$=|x-9|$$
 * $$<\delta$$
 * $$=\epsilon$$
 * }
 * $$=\epsilon$$
 * }
 * $$=\epsilon$$
 * }

We chose δ by working backwards from the formula we are trying to prove: $$\Big|f(x)-L\Big|<\epsilon$$. In this case, we desire to prove
 * $$|x-9|<\epsilon$$

given
 * $$|x-9|<\delta$$

so the easiest way to prove it is by choosing $$\delta=\epsilon$$. This example, however, is too easy to adequately explain how to choose $$\delta$$ in general. Lets try something harder:

Example 2: Prove that the limit of $$f(x)=x^2-9$$ as $$x$$ approaches $$2$$ is $$L=-5$$.

We want to prove that
 * $$\Big|f(x)-L\Big|=|x^2-4|<\epsilon$$

given
 * $$|x-2|<\delta$$.

We choose $$\delta$$ by working backwards. First, we need to rewrite the equation we want to prove using $$\delta$$ instead of $$x$$:

$$\begin{matrix}|x^2-4|&<&\epsilon\\ |x-2|\cdot|x+2|&<&\epsilon\\ \delta(\delta+4)&=&\epsilon\end{matrix}$$

Note: we used the fact that $$|x+2|\leq\delta+4$$, which can be proven with the triangle inequality.

Word of caution: the above series of equations is not a logical series of steps, and is not part of any proof, but is an informal technique used to help write the proof. We will select a value of $$\delta$$ so that the last equation is true, and then use the last equation to prove the equations above it in turn (which is what was meant earlier by working backwards).

Note: in the equations above, when $$\delta$$ was substituted for $$x$$, the sign $$<$$ was replaced with $$=$$. This can be done (but is not necessary) because we are not told that $$|x-2|=\delta$$, but rather $$|x-2|<\delta$$. The justification for this becomes clear when the above equations are used in backwards order in the proof.

We can solve this last equation for $$\delta$$ using the quadratic formula:
 * $$\delta=\frac{-4+\sqrt{16-4(-\epsilon)}}{2}=\sqrt{4+\epsilon}-2$$

Note: $$\delta$$ is almost always in terms of $$\epsilon$$. A constant value of $$\delta$$ (e.g., $$\delta=0.5$$) will not work unless the limit is of a constant function (for instance, $$\lim_{x\to 3}5=5$$).

Now, we have a value of $$\delta$$, and we can do our proof:

given
 * $$|x-2|<\delta$$

$$\begin{matrix}\Big|f(x)-L\Big|&=&|x^2-4|\\ \ &=&|x-2|\cdot|x+2|\\ \ &<&\delta(\delta+4)\\ \ &<&\big(\sqrt{4+\epsilon}-2\big)\big(\sqrt{4+\epsilon}+2\big)\\ \ &<&\big(\sqrt{4+\epsilon}\big)^2-2^2 \\ \ &<&\epsilon\end{matrix}$$

Here a few more examples of choosing $$\delta$$ ; try to figure them out before reading the explanation.

Example 3: Prove that the limit of $$f(x)=\frac{\sin(x)}{x}$$ as $$x$$ approaches $$0$$ is $$L=1$$.

Explanation:

Example 4: Prove that $$f(x)=\frac1x$$ has no limit as $$x$$ approaches $$0$$.

Example 5:

Prove that $$\lim_{x\to 2}x^2=4$$

Solution: To do it, we'll look at two cases: $$\epsilon\ge4$$ and $$\epsilon<4$$. The $$\epsilon\ge4$$ case is easy. First let's let $$\epsilon=4$$. That means we want the values chosen in the domain to map to $$(0,8)$$ in the range. We want a delta such that $$(2+\delta)^2=8$$ so let's choose $$\delta=2\sqrt2-2$$. The chosen $$\delta$$ defines the interval $$(4-2\sqrt2,2\sqrt2)$$ in our domain. This gets mapped to $$(24-16\sqrt2,8)$$ in our range, which is contained in $$(0,8)$$. Notice that $$\delta$$ doesn't depend on $$\epsilon$$. So for $$\epsilon>4$$, we widen the interval in the range that we are allowed to map onto, but our interval in the domain stays fixed and always maps to the same sub-interval in the range. So $$\delta=2\sqrt2-2$$ works for any $$\epsilon\ge4$$.

Now suppose $$0<\epsilon<4$$. We want a $$\delta$$ such that $$0<|x^2-4|<\epsilon$$ whenever $$0<|x-2|<\delta$$. So let's assume $$0<|x^2-4|<\epsilon$$ and work backwards to find a suitable $$\delta$$:
 * $$0<|x^2-4|<\epsilon$$
 * $$-\epsilon0$$. Since both numbers above are positive, we can take the (positive) square root of both extremes of the inequality:
 * $$\sqrt{4-\epsilon}<x<\sqrt{4+\epsilon}$$
 * $$\sqrt{4-\epsilon}-2<x-2<\sqrt{4+\epsilon}-2$$

The above equation represents the distance, either negative or positive, that $$x$$ can vary from 2 and still be within $$\epsilon$$ of 4. We want to choose the smaller of the two extremes to construct our interval. It turns out that $$\Big|\sqrt{4+\epsilon}-2\Big|\le\Big|\sqrt{4-\epsilon}-2\Big|$$ for $$0<\epsilon<4$$, so choose $$\delta=\sqrt{4+\epsilon}-2$$. As a sanity check, let's try with $$\epsilon=0.002$$.
 * $$\delta=\sqrt{4+\epsilon}-2$$
 * $$\delta=\sqrt{0.002+4}-2$$

which is approximately
 * $$\delta=0.0004999375$$

At the extreme right of the domain, this gives
 * $$x=2.0004999375$$

and
 * $$x^2=2.0004999375^2=4.00199999993750390625$$

which is within 0.002 of 4.

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This article was previously proposed for deletion, deleted, and then restored on the request of an IP editor. Unfortunately, the notability concerns remain. Most of the coverage of the blog in independent sources consists of brief mentions rather than anything of significant depth. The awards that the blog has won do not appear to be particularly significant ones. Cordless Larry (talk) 05:59, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ansh 666 08:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Wow. Former PROD in a different appearance of the article, then deleted. I don't imagine a clarification would be needed at WP:NOQUORUM, but is a first for me at least. Note to closing editor: In the discussion's current state, I would think that an full delete would be the best closure if this discussion attracts no more participation.
 * Delete There's a list of awards, none are bluelinked, and most appear to be given to blogs by groups of bloggers; I can't see that these give much support to notability; they may not even be independent of subject.  Worse, is the utter lack of evidence of WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS.    a gNews search comes up blank: .  Sources on page include two books, one Don't Bring Home a White Boy: And Other Notions that Keep Black  is written by one of the bloggers who write this blog "“I started the Black Women in Europe (BWIE) blog after moving to Sweden because I wanted to connect with other black women in Europe.", the other book is  a mere inclusion on a list "The women envisiaged utilising various social websites and blogs such as Facebook, BEWC, Black Women in Europe Blog, Afro European ...".  In sum, this is mere PROMO by a fan or a blogger.  Mere PROMO overstuffed with worthless sources.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:34, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947(c) (m) 05:00, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand your comment, . What is it that's unusual here? Cordless Larry (talk) 06:48, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Former PRODs mean the article cannot be deleted under soft deletion, but this former PROD was a PROD that was in a former version of the article, and then the article got deleted due to that PROD, and then the article was restored to its same version, so I am assuming that the article is ineligible for soft deletion. That's what makes it unusual.  J 947(c) (m) 20:23, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Delete Not notable blog fails WP:GNG--Shrike (talk) 11:13, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


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Home (Battlestar Galactica)

"Home" is a two-part episode of the reimagined Battlestar Galactica television series. Part 1 aired originally on the Sci Fi Channel on August 19, 2005, and Part 2 aired on August 26, 2005.

In the episode, Starbuck returns to the human fleet bearing the Arrow of Apollo. President Laura Roslin leads a team to the surface of Kobol to find the Tomb of Athena and a map to Earth. Commander William Adama overcomes his anger at Roslin and her allies and joins them on Kobol, where the Tomb provides a clue to Earth's location. The fleet is reunited.

According to executive producer David Eick, who wrote Part 1 and co-wrote Part 2 with executive producer Ronald D. Moore, "Home" is more about character development and relationships than about story. The episode received favorable critical review.

Plot
In the previous episode, "The Farm", Adama returned to command following an assassination attempt by the Galactica copy of Boomer (Galactica-Boomer). Roslin led almost a third of the fleet back to Kobol to search for a way to Earth. Starbuck left Caprica with Helo and the Cylon known until then as the Caprica copy of Boomer (Sharon).

Part 1
Roslin struggles to persuade the Quorum of Twelve of Apollo's loyalty. Tom Zarek suggests arming the civilian ships in case Galactica attacks, but Apollo says they would stand no chance against the battlestar. Priestess Elosha reminds everyone that the Scriptures predict that a return to Kobol would result in lives lost.

Starbuck docks with Roslin's flagship. Before she can explain about Caprica-Sharon, Apollo sees her and puts a gun to Caprica-Sharon's head. Helo appears and draws his weapon on Apollo to defend Sharon. Roslin defuses the standoff by promising Sharon will not be harmed but then orders her thrown out the airlock. Roslin only relents when Sharon claims to know the location of the Tomb of Athena, where the Scriptures claim a path to Earth can be found. Roslin threatens to put Helo and Sharon, and thus their unborn child, out the airlock unless Sharon leads them to it.

Privately, Zarek admits to his aide-de-camp, Meier, that he does not share Roslin's religious convictions. They plot to kill Apollo so Zarek can replace him at Roslin's side.

On Kobol, Roslin leads a team that includes Apollo, Starbuck, Sharon, Helo, Zarek, Meier, Elosha, and several guards. Elosha is killed by a land mine. Cylon Centurions ambush the party, who fends them off with the help of Sharon; she grabs a stray grenade launcher and destroys one of the Centurions, to Apollo's surprise.

On Galactica, Commander Adama assesses what resources remain after the defection of part of the fleet to "a religious fanatic and a terrorist", as he describes Roslin and Zarek. He appoints George Birch, an inexperienced but "honest and loyal" pilot, to replace Apollo commanding the Viper pilots; several accidents happen under Birch's leadership. Adama appears before the press; denounces those who followed Roslin, whom he describes as no longer President; and threatens to detain anyone who reports that he does not know where Earth is. Later, he confides in Anastasia "Dee" Dualla how hurt he is by betrayal. Dee replies that he has broken his promise to find the fleet a new home and suggests his hurt has more to do with his own feeling of helplessness than betrayal. Adama dismisses Dee brusquely but later asks for reconnaissance photos of Kobol, promising to reunite the fleet, "our family".

Part 2
Head Six tells Gaius Baltar that their child will be born in the cell built for Galactica-Boomer. Baltar loses patience and starts mocking the idea that he could have a child with an imaginary woman. Six dons a casual appearance and tells Baltar that she is nothing more than a coping mechanism created by his subconscious following his participation in the genocide of humanity. She taunts him and encourages him to get a brain scan. Doctor Cottle finds nothing wrong and writes Baltar off as a hypochondriac.

Sharon continues to guide the party on Kobol based on her knowledge of human theology. Apollo remains suspicious of Sharon and Helo, but Starbuck vouches for them. Sharon tells Helo she has many memories as Boomer aboard Galactica and that their child will be female. Meier suggests to Zarek that they frame Sharon for Apollo's murder, but Zarek insists they wait until they've found the Tomb.

Commander Adama arrives on Kobol with Billy Keikeya and Chief Galen Tyrol. Roslin reconciles with Billy. Adama reconciles with Apollo and Starbuck. He attacks Sharon, recalling Galactica-Boomer's betrayal, but is prevented from killing her by chest pain following his surgery. Adama reconciles with Roslin, acknowledges her role in saving his and Apollo's life following the Cylon attack on the Colonies, and joins her quest for the Tomb. Tyrol approaches Sharon uncomfortably; Sharon tells him she "remembers" him and hugs him.

Meier tells Sharon about the murder of Galactica-Boomer and warns her to start looking out for herself and her unborn baby. After Adama arrives, Zarek orders Meier to stop plotting, to no avail. Sharon tells Helo she plans to "take matters into my own hands." Meier provides her a handgun, and she promises to ambush Commander Adama when they reach the Tomb. However, when the time comes, she shoots Meier instead, declares she has no hidden programming like Galactica-Boomer's, and surrenders the weapon to Adama.

Adama orders Tyrol to guard Zarek, Sharon, and Helo and enters the Tomb with Roslin, Apollo, Starbuck, and Billy. Starbuck inserts the Arrow of Apollo into a statue of the archer Sagittaron, triggering a vision of a grassy field under a night sky. The party sees constellations representing each of the Twelve Colonies, and Starbuck realizes they are "standing" on Earth. Apollo recognizes a nebula among the constellations (he says it's the Lagoon Nebula, to which his father Adama says it's Astral Body M8) and concludes the fleet can plot its next direction based on it.

Returning to Galactica, Adama promises to keep the fleet unified and reinstates Roslin as president. Sharon is placed in a cell built for Galactica-Boomer. Helo speaks to Sharon about their baby through a direct phone line. Eavesdropping, Baltar realizes the connection with Six's prediction for their "child". Having ruled out the possibility that Six is created by a chip in his brain, and now concluding from her foreknowledge of Sharon's pregnancy that she cannot just be his own creation, he asks what she is. She answers, "I'm an angel of God sent here to protect you, to guide you, to love you." He asks, "To what end?" She replies, "To the end of the human race."

Deleted scenes
In a scene deleted from Part 1, Elosha confesses to Roslin that she had lost her faith before the Cylon attack on the Colonies. Seeing the hope in Roslin as Elosha administered Roslin's oath of office restored her faith. In a scene deleted from Part 2, Billy confesses to Roslin that he is an atheist but says he is joining her on Kobol because he believes in her and Commander Adama.

Characterization
Eick says "Home" is more about character development and relationships than about story. Susan Tankersley of Television Without Pity agrees, comparing the episode to "a long family car trip." Jason Davis of Mania notes that Apollo and Starbuck act like children with one another and connects their behavior to "their damaged social development".

Eick said that actor Edward James Olmos (Commander Adama) helped him craft the encounter between Adama and Sharon by saying that he expected Adama would try to kill any Number Eight copy he met. Moore said Olmos "did your [Eick's] homework", and Eick agreed.

Moore and Eick view Adama and Roslin's reconciliation scene as a different tone for the characters, who to this point had only shared, in Eick's words, "stiff pleasantries". By the end of the scene, they are calling each other by their first names, something the characters had not done before.

Moore says that during "Home" Helo begins to develop "conflicted loyalties".

Production
"Home" was the first teleplay written by Eick. Director Sergio Mimica-Gezzan told him the episode was too long, so the production team petitioned the Sci Fi network to let them split it into two parts. Once the network signed off, the writers had very little time to craft enough material to fill both episodes. The split also allowed them to spend more time on Apollo and Starbuck's reunion and Adama and Roslin's reunion. In Eick's view, this was important because of the episode's emphasis on the characters.

Part 1
The writers decided to have Elosha die in "Home" because they felt it was important that Roslin pay a personal price for leading the pilgrimage to Kobol. They considered having Billy die instead or as well, but ultimately they decided to kill only Elosha to symbolize the end of Roslin's journey to religious awakening. The writers also anticipated Roslin rebuilding her relationship with Adama and returning to political rather than religious leadership in later episodes, and Elosha represented changes in the opposite direction.

In the script, Birch's mistakes rather than Dee's entreaty were the cause for Adama to change his mind and travel to Kobol. The scene between Adama and Dee and the scene with Birch's biggest mistake were swapped during editing. An artifact of this change is that Adama enters the CIC for the Birch mistake scene followed by Dee.

When Starbuck first appears on Roslin's ship, Apollo kisses her. This was actor Jamie Bamber (Apollo)'s idea. Bamber and actress Katee Sackhoff ad-libbed some of Apollo and Starbuck's dialogue in "Home".

The mechanics of the land mine that kills Elosha were inspired by the S-mines deployed by Nazi Germany during World War II. The shot of the mine bounding into the air was filmed conventionally, without visual effects.

Part 2
Shooting for Part 2 proceeded slowly because of the large number of exterior shots and the size of the cast in those shots. The writers compensated by putting the actors in pairs or small groups where possible so the director would only need a few of them at a time. Nonetheless, Eick called "Home, Part 2" the most difficult episode in the series up to that point to produce, with the possible exception of the first-season finale, "Kobol's Last Gleaming".

Executive producer Ronald D. Moore compared the teaser of Part 2, which intercuts between Roslin's party following scriptural clues to find the Tomb and Adama using scriptural clues to guess Roslin's location, to the teaser of "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 1", which also features intercuts.

The writers had considered having Head Six tell Baltar he's crazy during the first season but never managed to fit it into any of that season's episodes. Splitting "Home" into two episodes created the space they needed to incorporate the idea into the episode. They considered having Baltar visit Sharon in her cell and replacing Six with a vision of Sharon in this episode.

Adama and Billy's skin ripples as their Raptor enters the Kobol atmosphere. Eick had seen the effect in the film Moonraker and wanted it in the episode. The effect was achieved with an air blaster, the same way as in Moonraker, despite some danger for the actors.

The party enters the Tomb cave by pushing a boulder out of the way, but only after Starbuck tries and fails to open the cave by waving the Arrow of Apollo around. Eick felt that the finished episode did not convey Starbuck's initial disappointment after having gone through so much to bring the Arrow from Caprica.

The writers went through several versions of what the party would learn in the Tomb. First they thought that the Arrow itself could be a map to Earth, but they dismissed that because it didn't mandate a journey to Kobol. Then they considered having the party's investigation interrupted by a Cylon attack that would prevent them from learning Earth's exact location; this was abandoned because it seemed unnecessary and because the visual effects would have been too expensive.

Reception
Critical reception to "Home" was favorable. Tankersley gave Part 1 an A− and Part 2 a B. Davis gave Part 1 an A− and part 2 an A, calling Sharon's betrayal of Meier in favor of Adama "one of the best executed pieces of writing seen on television in years." Simon Brew of Den of Geek was less enthusiastic, criticizing the episode's pace but nonetheless calling it "some smashing viewing."

Connections to other series elements

 * Moore and Eick said that "Home" resolves much of the conflict that began in "Kobol's Last Gleaming". In this sense they considered it the true end of the first season.
 * In the third-season episode "Torn", Head Six reaffirms her self-description as an angel sent to protect Baltar.
 * In "The Farm", Starbuck promised Sam Anders she would return to Caprica and rescue him. In "Home", she encourages Roslin to plan a rescue mission to Caprica.
 * In the original series episode "Lost Planet of the Gods", Commander Adama discovers Kobol and tries to decipher ancient clues to finding Earth.

Film homages
Starbuck playing with her Pyramid ball is an homage to Steve McQueen's character in The Great Escape. The shot of Six sitting naked on a backward chair is an homage to Scandal. The scene in which the Galactica crew applauds Roslin is an homage to Brubaker.

Astronomy
The constellations Roslin identifies in the Tomb correspond to the real Zodiacal constellations. Moore and Eick concede that all twelve of these constellations cannot be viewed simultaneously in the night sky but say it would be disorienting for the audience to rotate the sky throughout the scene in a way that would make the representation faithful. They also concede that the constellations shown in the episode do not resemble real constellations.

Apollo identifies the nebula as the Lagoon Nebula, in the constellation Scorpio. His father refers to it as "Astral Body M8." The real Lagoon Nebula has Messier designation M8 but is located in Sagittarius, not Scorpius.

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Henry Peacham (born 1578)

Henry Peacham (born 1578, d. in or after 1644) was an English poet and writer, known today primarily for his book, The Compleat Gentleman, first printed in 1622.

Biography
Son of Henry Peacham the Elder, a clergyman, Peacham was a graduate of Trinity College, Cambridge. In 1603, at the age of twenty-five the younger Peacham was a schoolmaster at Kimbolton Grammar School. In 1612 he published a book of printed emblems called Minerva Britanna, based on a manuscript which is believed to have been presented to Henry Frederick, Prince of Wales, in 1610.

Peacham's The Compleat Gentleman is presented as a guidebook on the arts for young men of good birth. In it, he discusses what writers, poets, composers, philosophers, and artists gentlemen should study in order to become well-educated. Because he mentions a large number of contemporary artistic figures, he is often cited as a primary source in studies of Renaissance artists.

A representative passage from The Compleat Gentleman:
 * "For composition, I prefer next Ludovico de Victoria, a most judicious and a sweet composer: after him Orlando di Lasso, a very rare and excellent Author, who lived some forty years since in the court of the Duke of Bavier."

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Carlos Mulas Granados

Carlos Mulas Granados (born 1974 in Madrid, Spain) is an economist and university professor. Former deputy director of the Spanish Prime Minister's Office and former director of the Ideas Foundation, currently he is senior economist of the International Monetary Fund. (IMF).

Biography
Born in Madrid (Spain), he studied in Madrid and got an International Baccalaureate degree at I.R. Maeztu. He then got graduate degrees in Economics and Business Administration from University Carlos III, with a period at Antwerp University (Erasmus program). He also holds a PhD in economics from Cambridge University, a European Doctorate from and Master in International Affairs from Columbia University. Carlos Mulas Granados was a tenured professor of economics at the Complutense University of Madrid until he left on secondment and joined the International Monetary Fund in 2012. Also, after 4 years at IDEAS Foundation from the Spanish Socialist Party (PSOE), he stepped down from his position as director. Shortly after, he joined the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Mulas had run for the Spanish Congress Congreso de los Diputados de España in the list of that socialist party during the general elections of 2011 Elecciones generales de España de 2011. He also contributed to the economic program of the Spanish prime minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, and was deputy director of the Economic Office of the Prime Minister. He was later the executive director of the IDEAS Foundation until he joined the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Awards and recognitions
In April 2017, Mulas received a Fund Departmental award for his IMF book entitled "Fiscal Politics" In April 2015, Mulas received a Fund Global Award for his work on "Inequality Issues".

His article entitled “Duration of Fiscal Adjustments in the European Union” won the Prize of the Chair Uni-2 for the best article of European Economics at 2003

He was awarded the Medal of the Spanish Order Isabel la Católica in 2006, for his public services during his tenure as the deputy director of the Prime Minister's Economic Office, a position to which he was appointed in 2004.

Activities of social entrepreneurship
He collaborated with the social initiatives of Aprocor Foundation for the inclusion of intellectually impaired people in the labor market. To give a good example, he worked directly with some of them.

As a co-founder of the production company Storylines he co-produced the short-film entitled “Have a Nice Trip”, which was recognized for its positive treatment of immigration, and he also co-produced the short-film “Uniformed”, a movie advocating gender equality in childhood. This latter work has received about thirty national and international awards and was selected as the Short of the Week in El País, ABC , and RTVE.

Ideas Foundation
In May 2009, Carlos Mulas Granados was appointed as director of the Ideas Foundation. From that position he co-launched the Global Progress initiative in collaboration with the Center for American Progress. The Global Progress summits brought together world figures like Lula da Silva, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Thabo Mbeki, JL Zapatero, Michelle Bachelet, Gordon Brown or Francois Hollande, for different meetings held in Madrid, New York and London. In October 2011, at the request of the Ideas Foundation led by Mulas, these world leaders signed a petition to the G20 in favor of a social pact to end the crisis.

Mulas was fired as executive director of the Ideas Foundation in 2013 after a case of political corruption involving his wife, who received hidden payments for expert reports on a variety of issues. In February 2013 he also abandoned the PSOE after the political party started the process to oust him. In that period the Spanish conservative newspaper El Mundo reported against his famous ex-wife for writing articles using the nickname of Amy Martin while receiving disproportionally high payments for such articles. She claims that it was as part of a performance for her latest novel Last Days of Warla Alkman, published in November 2013.

Soon after leaving the Ideas Foundation he joined the International Monetary Fund.

Political activity
Member of "Economists 2004", a group of independent economists responsible for the economic program of the future Prime Minister Zapatero for the 2004 elections.

Member of the Editorial Committee of PSOE's electoral manifesto in 2008 and 2011.

Candidate for Congress in the list of PSOE in Madrid (Spain) for the general elections held in 2011. He was called to join the Congress in September 2014, but he announced that he would continue his career at the International Monetary Fund.

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Talk:Kamrupi

Edit War on Kamrupi

 * The edit war from yesterday has me a bit confused. Would Kamrupi redirect to the disambiguation page or somewhere else? That might be closer to the issue under dispute, not the title of the dab page.  — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  20:30, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it should remain the same, just as in Assamese. It is likely people will link to kamrupi while editing and readers can take their pick.  The kamrupi in the linking page can be corrected later.  Chaipau (talk) 20:53, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I would like to add that Kamrupi (disambiguation) should redirected to Kamrupi. Chaipau (talk) 20:55, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Whether kamrupi redirects to kamrupi (disambiguation) or vice versa, the reader's experience is the same.  Are there policies that prioritize one over the other? — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  21:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The naming convention seems to be this: "the disambiguation page is the ambiguous term itself" Disambiguation. So  kamrupi seems appropriate to me.  Chaipau (talk) 22:14, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, so Kamrupi (disambiguation) would only make sense if Kamrupi was the title of an article.
 * Bhaskarbhagawati, are you of the opinion that Kamrupi dialect or Kamarupi Prakrit should be renamed to Kamrupi? — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  23:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That’s right. Actually both Kamarupi Prakrit and Kamrupi dialect are within one article named Kamrupi till few weeks ago,discussing its ancient origin and remnant today as dialect in section allotted. In Kamrupi disambiguation page, Kamrupi can be stay as item referring to said language.bbhagawati (talk) 04:46, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, then we're putting the cart before the horse here. We need to come to an agreement about those articles first.  I see only two ways that the move to Kamrupi  (disambiguation) would work.  Either those two articles merge into one article named "Kamrupi" (what you're proposing) or one of them is renamed to "Kamrupi" (something that hasn't been proposed but is certainly a possibility). If we agree on one of those things, the presence of Kamrupi (disambiguation) as the disambiguation page will be practically automatic.  — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  05:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think merging and renaming as Kamrupi is better option.bbhagawati (talk) 06:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * "Kamarupi Prakrit" and "Kamrupi dialect" are two different things, that need different article spaces. I have made the arguments in Talk:Kamarupi Prakrit.  Neither Kamarupi Prakrit nor Kamrupi dialect qualify to be called Kamrupi.  Because Kamrupi could mean "Kamrupi dialect", "Kamrupi Lokgeet", "Kamrupi people" many different aspects of the region of Kamrup.  Chaipau (talk) 13:11, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

 * "Kamarupi Prakrit" and "Kamrupi dialect" are two different things, that need different article spaces. I have made the arguments in Talk:Kamarupi Prakrit.I have provided sources for same. Neither Kamarupi Prakrit nor Kamrupi dialect qualify to be called Kamrupi.  Because Kamrupi could mean "Kamrupi dialect", "Kamrupi Lokgeet", "Kamrupi people" many different aspects of the region of Kamrup.Kamrupi is basically an language, so will be known by same. For people it will be Kamrupi people and for Lokgeet it wil be Kamrupi Lokgeet etc.bbhagawati (talk) 14:26, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Usually, when there's an article on a people and on a language where both use the same word (e.g. Spanish, Polish, Japanese), the format is to title the former as X people, the latter as X language, and use X as a disambiguation page. See WP:Naming conventions (languages).  Since this is really about the merge, though, we should keep this discussion at Talk:Kamarupi Prakrit.  — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  15:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand what you are saying but here problem is that if you name it as dialect then it do injustice to its history and vice versa nor we can keep two articles for same subject. So Kamrupi name can accomodate the entire article or other option is renaming the same as Kamrupi language. bbhagawati (talk) 06:31, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Kamarupi Prakrita / Kamrupi Prakrit
Since this is really about the merge, though, we should keep this discussion at Talk:Kamarupi Prakrit.

 * Kamarupi Prakrita - Sanskrit usage
 * Kamrupi Prakrit - non-Sanskrit usage

Kurmaa (talk) 11:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Why Wikipedia uses derogatory term Lower Assam

 * Lower Assam is a derogatory term created by people with Ahom ethnocentrism as well as supremacy behavioural commonalities.
 * Scholar like Banikanta Kakati used Western Assam for undivided Kamrup within Assam boundary, see http://archive.org/stream/AssameseitsFormationAndDevelopment/Assamese#page/n61/mode/2up
 * Why Wikipedia uses derogatory term Lower Assam? It is a humiliation for Kamarupi / Kamrupi.

Kurmaa (talk) 11:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Ahom Ahomese/Assamese & Ethnocentrism

 * To avoid any ambiguity, let me define Ahom as of or related to Ahom kingdom, e.g., Ahom-goods, Ahom-man, Ahom-woman, Ahom-culture, Mongoloid-Ahom, Dravidian-Ahom, Tai-Ahom, … … … while Tai-Ahom (a branch of Mongoloid-Ahom) are the people whose ancestors immigrated from that time Thailand and established Ahom kingdom in eastern part of Kamarupa.

 * From day one the Tai-Ahom entered in Eastern Kamarupa they had no choice but to learn to speak in local language. There were no systematic language-learning approaches out there. They then occupied and form kingdom right there. So from day one this Ahom dialect or Ahomese was started as part of learning difficulties. Ahomese is what is Assamese.

Kurmaa (talk) 22:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Present Kamarupi / Kamrupi is not a dialect of Ahomese / Assamese.
 * So please do not mislead whole World exhibiting Ahom ethnocentrism.

 * Modern Kamrupi and modern Standard Assamese are considered two dialects of the same language. Modern Kamrupi is not a dialect (or group of dialects) of Standard Assamese.  If we say "Kamrupi is an Assamese dialect" is the objection that it might seem like we are saying that Modern Kamrupi is a dialect of Standard Assamese or is somehow subservient to it? — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  23:00, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

 * Do you accept that modern English is a dialect of old English?
 * Say that you accept it, then you are correct in saying that modern Kamrupi is a dialect of old Kamrupi (same language).
 * Modern Kamrupi is not a dialect (or group of dialects) of Standard Assamese. -This is correct.
 * If we say "Kamrupi is an Assamese dialect" -No you cannot say that because it not only undermines fundamentals like Grimm's law, dialect formation due to (a) foreign occupation (b) geographical isolation (c) phonemic deficiency, ... but also undermines scholarly moral.

 * Kurmaa (talk) 16:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

 * No, modern English is not a dialect of the Old English. Look at List of dialects of the English language.  You will notice that even BBC English is listed.  As is Standard American English.  Likewise, Kamrupi is a dialect of the Assamese language.  The standard Assamese (that you read in newspapers, books etc), eastern Assamese (that you hear around Sibsagar) etc are all "dialects" of the Assamese language.  Kamrupi itself has sub-dialects.  Assamese language is a group of a different varieties of "speech" that share some common characteristics, which could be linguistic features, literature, etc. Your notion that a dialect is somehow derived from a language is wrong.  As is the notion that calling Kamrupi a dialect is giving it an inferior position.    It is not.

 * Chaipau (talk) 01:05, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

 * Assamese is a dialect of Kamrupi, but Assamese became the state language for political reasons. Scroll up to read that highlights scientific reasons how a dialect may form. -Kurmaa (talk) 02:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Kamarupi or Kamrupi
Kamarupi or Kamrupi can mean of or related to Kamarupa or Kamrup.

Here spellings Kamarupa and Kamarupi are for Sanskrit usage, while Kamrup and Kamrupi are for non-Sanskrit (including current day) usage.

Again, here the term Kamrup is used for greater undivided Kamrup. This is present Western Assam, present Cooch Behar state, some areas in present Bangladesh, and some in present mountain kingdom Bhutan.

Some Examples:

 * Kamrupi people - the people of Kamrup
 * Kamrupi language - the language spoken in Kamrup
 * Kamrupi culture - the culture of Kamrup
 * Kamrupi copperplate-scriptures - Kamarupi or Kamrupi scriptures found in copperplate
 * Kamrupi sachi-scriptures - Kamarupi or Kamrupi scriptures found in Agar wood paper
 * Kamrupi dialect - Kamarupi or Kamrupi language variations as per Geographical Indication
 * Kamrupi Lokageet - folk songs in authentic Kamarupi or Kamrupi language
 * Kamarupi Prakrit - a middle Indo-Aryan language spoken in the Kamarupa kingdom
 * Kamrupi indigenous-tribe - the indigenous-tribe of Kamrup who traces their ancestor to Kamrupi ruler Bhagadatta and his times, e.g., Baro tribe, Saranya tribe, etc.
 * Kamrupi indigenous-art - the collection of art found among Kamrupi indigenous-tribe
 * Kamrupi handicraft - handicraft produced by any of the Kamrupi indigenous-art
 * Kamrupi cottage-industry - the various cottage-industries evolved in Kamrup
 * Kamrupi utensils - the various utensils developed in Kamrupi cottage-industries
 * Kamrupi silk - the various silks developed in Kamrupi cottage-industries

Kurmaa (talk) 18:27, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

The three-revert rule
Observe that on the surface it appears users Aeusoes1 and Chaipau works together enabling to get away with this 3RR, for example after Aeusoes1 without a delay Chaipau takes over in edit war.

Kurmaa (talk) 15:13, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't forget Bkonrad.
 * Nobody agreed with your edits. That's a sign that you don't have consensus.  Simply reverting reversions doesn't suddenly make your edits agreeable.
 * Moreover, it looks more like you were putting your opinionated commentary in article space after being unable to gain any favor in related talk pages. You've been here long enough to know that that kind of thing is contrary to Wikipedia's goals.  In other words, you were acting in bad faith.
 * You were vandalizing, plain and simple. 3RR doesn't apply to vandalism. — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 15:31, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

 * It was to explore further whether user Aeusoes1 and Chaipau have been teaming up in order to use 3RR without getting warning - the duo have been long enough in Wikipedia.
 * Here, one does not need 2 folders/topics Kamarupi Prakrit and Kamrupi Dialect, but s(he) needs one folder/topic Kamrupi or Kamarupi (in Unicode Devanagari कामरुपी) where from past to present Kamrupi shall be presented in a manner appropriate displaying unbroken thread in order to uphold scholarly moral - Kamrupi is not a dialect of Assamese / Ahomese - Kamarupi Prakrit and Kamrupi Dialect shall be merged.

 * Kurmaa (talk) 18:08, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There's already a merge proposal at Talk:Kamarupi Prakrit. So far, the arguments for a merge have been unconvincing but there's no reason to put another proposal for the same outcome here.  — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  18:13, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

 * Fine, users shall discuss merger stuff in Talk:Kamarupi Prakrit.
 * But what is the matter with users Aeusoes1 and Chaipau that duo have been teaming-up to make Kamrupi a dialect of Assamese (Ahomese) in Wikipedia?
 * Kurmaa (talk) 15:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you have sources that say otherwise? — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 15:47, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * BBhagawati has now found a source that says Kamrupi is a dialect of Bengali too !! Chaipau (talk) 17:51, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a dialect continuum, so Kamrupi shares more features with North Bengali than Standard Assamese does. There's similar variation in classification with Galician and Portuguese, though it's between considering Galician a separate language or not.  Not sure if one source is enough to really change how we classify Kamrupi at Wikipedia.  — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  18:08, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's true, but it does not look to me that BBhagawati is trying to drive toward dialect continuum. Chaipau (talk) 03:13, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, it does not say anywhere in (Goswami 1970: 1) that Kamrupi is a Bengali dialect. Chaipau (talk) 10:29, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Is he saying there's a separate Kamrupi dialect of Bengali? I'm not so sure if it would be relevant to that article. — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  13:36, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * He is claiming that Kamrupi is a dialect of both Assamese and Bengali. This is what I inferred after reading the reference he has cited.  The basis for claiming this is a general comment the author makes on dialectal continuum that Kamrupi forms with North Bengal in a concluding part of a section.  This is probably the first time I have heard it being said, so I find this surprising.  Nevertheless, we now have a profusion of boxed quotes placed random in the article that look like billboards. Chaipau (talk) 06:11, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It would make more sense if the author said Goalparia (the dialect group to the west of Kamrupi and contiguous with North bengali) instead of Kamrupi. Chaipau (talk) 07:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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A photograph of the College of Health Sciences campus in Salmaniya Medical Complex. Seen are the main college building, the auditorium and a sign to the Ahmed Al Farsi library. Photograph taken in September 2019.

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Cedar Falls, North Carolina

Cedar Falls is an unincorporated community in Randolph County, North Carolina, United States. The community is located along the Deep River, 5.5 mi northeast of Asheboro. Cedar Falls has a post office with ZIP code 27230, which opened on March 4, 1878.

History
Cedar Falls was originally named Everett's Mill, in reference to Benjamin Everett. The first cotton mill in Randolph County, Sapona Cotton Mills, was established in the community in 1836. Cedar Falls was incorporated in 1899 but its incorporated status was revoked two years later.

Geography
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Cherry Hotel

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Brian Kalk

Brian Kalk (born c. 1966) is a North Dakota Republican Party politician in the U.S. state of North Dakota. He served on the North Dakota Public Service Commission from 2009 to 2017.

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Kalk was born and raised in Bottineau, North Dakota and graduated from Bottineau High School in 1984. He was class President in Bottineau his Freshman and Senior years of high school. While in High School he was active in the FFA, Hockey, Football, Track, and Choir. Kalk graduated in the top 10% of his class. Following High School graduation he attended Dakota College at Bottineau where he played hockey for the "Lumber Jacks" and studied Political Science and Natural Resources until his enlistment in the Marine Corps in 1987.

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Kalk served as a Marine from 1987 until his retirement. During his years as a Marine, he traveled to over forty countries. Kalk served in many operations including Operation Enduring Freedom, and Operation Iraqi Freedom. While serving, he received his bachelor's degree in political science from Campbell University in North Carolina. In 2003, Kalk deployed as the Forward Operations Officer for Transportation Support Group One. In 2003, he returned to North Dakota to command the Fargo Military Entrance Processing Station. While in Fargo, he received his Doctorate Degree from North Dakota State University in Natural Resource Management. He then taught different courses at NDSU.

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In January 2008, Kalk announced his campaign for the Republican nomination for the Public Service Commission. He won in the general election and has focused on job creation utilizing the state's natural resources. Kalk was re-elected in 2014. Kalk resigned in January 2017 to accept a position at the Energy and Environmental Research Center until April 2019 when Kalk was named the executive director of the North Dakota State University Research and Technology Park.

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GCSE ICT/ICT in Schools

Schools use ICT for:

Administration
Schools have to keep information about all the pupils and staff. The Schooltool project is developing an open source solution for this problem and has a detailed analysis of what is needed in all sorts of schools. Proprietary solutions include CCM's product CMIS and Capita's SIMS. Schools need to store information on:
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 * Standard Office Tools
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1911 Országos Bajnokság I (men's water polo)

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Tirunelveli Dakshina Mara Nadar Sangam College

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Talk:Dave Cooper

Barry Blair
I moved the paragraph below because it is not properly cited, nor have I been able to find the interview in question. Since it accuses (the recently deceased) Barry Blair of some distasteful actions, I feel it's better to store the material here on the Talk page until the Cooper quotes can be properly authenticated... -- stoshmaster (talk) 22:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

"Blair has caused controversy with some comics that have featured young boys being tortured or eroticized, and while Cooper has never said that he was molested by Blair, he told The Comics Journal that their relationship was awkward and 'inappropriate' and it served as the inspiration for Cooper's book Dan and Larry in: Don't Do That! The book features a childlike, 'duckish' creature named Dan who is mentored by a pushy, older creature named Larry, and at one point Larry holds Dan down and presses against him, saying, 'THIS is how we should play sometimes.' (In the same Journal interview, Cooper took pains to point out that although some readers believe Larry is actually raping Dan, Larry's pants are on through the whole encounter.) Despite Larry's disturbing relationship with their son, Dan's parents are cheerfully oblivious. The Dan and Larry graphic novel culminates in a scene wherein Larry dons a leotard that reveals his small, erect genitalia, and invites Dan to 'touch it if you want to.' This leads into a sexual encounter that culminates with what appears to be a cathartic expression, as Larry trips and suffers a gruesome accidental death."

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Talk:Dave Mason

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He played with Jimi too, how could one miss that? I'll go ahead and put that in. For pete's sake, he's on Electric Ladyland.Happydog 18:17, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Link to the wrong Phoebe Snow entry.

Is the link to Jim Krueger the correct one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 17:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Correction to name of first single. "Little Woman" was the b-side not the a-side, which was "Just for You" (see images of single cover at http://www.45cat.com/record/wip6032). (Nicoatridge (talk) 09:12, 4 January 2011 (UTC))

Why is there no Discography?
Unless there's a reason against it, I'll start a discography in the next few days. Please help contribute.

albabe -  The Writer /Artist Formally Known as  Al Gordon 14:46, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanx Bob!

albabe -  The Writer /Artist Formally Known as  Al Gordon 23:42, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi. If this is still on the radar, you're welcome to use the discography I've created here (https://progrography.com/dave-mason/dave-mason-discography/). Progrography (talk) 10:54, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

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Delaney & Bonnie On Tour With Eric Clapton Album?
Are we 100% sure Mason plays on this album. What makes me suspicious:

The show three days after the one from which the album is drawn includes neither Mason nor Tex Johnson. See the video itself and Delaney's band introduction at 35:10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4DbsNsK3jY&t=404s

To my thinking, Mason either bowed out of the December 10 show to accommodate George Harrison (i.e. Harrison effectively replaced him for the show), or Mason is not part of the tour and as such should accordingly not be credited on the album. Can anyone clear up this mystery?

As for Tex Johnson, I don't see why he would be absent from the December 10 show but present at the show three days earlier from which the live album is drawn. Perhaps he was overdubbed. Again, can anyone clear up this mystery? <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 22:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * This would probably have been better asked at On Tour with Eric Clapton (the article for the album), but here's a 1970 album review that says Mason plays on the album: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-daily-herald-ontour-mason/140681667/ Schazjmd   (talk)  23:33, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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