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Cookbook:Soy Milk I

| Vegan cuisine

Ingredients

 * 125 g dried soybeans
 * About 3.5 L water

Equipment

 * Hand blender
 * Large pot with, ideally, a transparent lid
 * Large can to hold the milk
 * Wooden spoon or another tool for stirring
 * Clean cheesecloth or dish cloth
 * Sealable container for the okara (optional, you can also elect to dump or compost it, or ferment it)

Procedure

 * 1) Put the soybeans and 1 L of water into the pot, and let them soak for 8–12 hours.
 * 2) Strip the soaked beans of their hulls by rubbing or crushing them between your fingers. Remove the hulls and pour away the excess water. While the hulls have about the same density as the beans and bean splinters, you can exploit their high flow resistance for separating the two: Fill some water into the bowl, then pour it away quickly enough to drag the hulls with it, but not so quickly that the beans will follow. This process resembles the winnowing of dry chaff from seeds. It's no problem if a few hulls remain.
 * 3) Add ½ L of fresh water and blend until you get a creamy substance. Add another ½ liter and blend until totally smooth.
 * 4) Bring the raw milk to a boil while stirring, then reduce the temperature to minimum, put the lid on top, and simmer for 20 minutes. Attention: May overboil, check frequently. Removing the lid will allow vapor to escape and reduce the foam. Another possibility is to pour a little bit of cold water on top of the lid.
 * 5) The bitter odor of the raw milk should now be gone. Remove the pot from the stove and add 1 liter of cold water.
 * 6) Line the inside of the can with the cheesecloth so it is completely covered, and the edges of the cloth hang over the edge of the can. The following process will not work if the body of the can is much wider than the opening, though. In this case, use a large bowl instead.
 * 7) Carefully pour the cooked, unfiltered milk into the can. Then fold the cheesecloth together at the top and lift it up out of the can so that the filtered milk drips into the can. Rotate the bottom of the cloth against the top and use your hands to exert additional pressure upon the soy mass. Be careful not to burn yourself.
 * 8) When you're no longer able to extract significant amounts of milk from the soy mass, open the cheesecloth, and put the resulting rubberlike, crumbly okara ball into the prepared container. Store it in a cool place for up to 3 days; you may also freeze it.

Notes, tips, and variations

 * The soy milk can be kept in the refrigerator for about 5 days. You can also use it to make tofu right away.
 * The okara requires much more heat processing than the milk in order to be digestible. Boil it or bake it for at least one hour before eating it. The heat exposure during the baking of bread which contains okara is usually enough. Alternatively, it can be fermented into a special variety of tempeh.

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nomear

Etymology
From (13th century, ), from, present active infinitive of , from , from. Compare, a borrowed doublet. Cognate with 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to name, to give a name
 * 2) to entitle
 * 3) to name, appoint, nominate
 * 4) to mention
 * 1) to mention

Etymology
From, from , from , from. Compare, a borrowed doublet. .

Verb

 * 1) to name give a name to
 * 2) to nominate name someone as a candidate for a particular role or position
 * 3) to entitle give a title to
 * 4) to elect choose a candidate in an election
 * 5) to name publicly implicate
 * 1) to entitle give a title to
 * 2) to elect choose a candidate in an election
 * 3) to name publicly implicate
 * 1) to name publicly implicate
 * 1) to name publicly implicate

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Church of Gesù, Mirandola

The Church of the Gesù is a Baroque style, Roman Catholic church on via Montanari, in the town of Mirandola, Province of Modena, Region of Emilia Romagna, Italy.

History
This church, originally staffed by the Jesuit order, was commissioned by Alessandro I Pico when he was invested as Duke, and construction began in 1621 and completed in 1689. The facade remains incomplete and presents a simple brick front. The interior however has elaborate baroque decoration in its single nave. The interiors include an almost Churrigueresque wooden altar and pulpit. The main altar also has a polychrome marble altarpiece of the Circumcision by Innocenzo Monti. By the late 18th century, the expulsion of the Jesuits from the duchy was followed soon after by the Napoleonic invasions. The convent became hospital in 19th century now houses the city library and archives and other offices. The church roof partially fell in after 2012 Northern Italy earthquakes and has been undergoing restoration.

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Co-creator of the slowest growing sport Untensiball it will be a mediocre hit in 10 years time. (Details correct as of 2019)

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Ron Carruthers

Ron Carruthers may refer to:

 * Ron Carruthers (footballer, born 1918), Australian rules footballer for Collingwood
 * Ron Carruthers (footballer, born 1943), Australian rules footballer for Collingwood, son of the above

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It seems to me this article is not one about advertising in a social sense. It seems to be written in a business sense. An article better suited for this area of Wikiversity would be in regard to the impacts of advertising on society. This article is VERY informational, I think however it would be much more impactful if moved to the business section of Wikiversity. Cheers!

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On the night of 11 August 2020, violent clashes took place in the Indian city of Bangalore, Karnataka. Provoked by an inflammatory Facebook post on Muhammad that was allegedly shared by the nephew of the Akhanda Srinivas Murthy, a state legislator of the Indian National Congress, a group of Muslims arrived at his house in protest which turned violent.

The clashes between the police and agitators started around the residence of the legislator and spread to the police stations of KG Halli and DJ Halli. The incident resulted in the imposition of a curfew in the affected areas, the death of 3 people in police firing and injuries to 30–80 policemen and several journalists, inflicted by armed assailants. The property of the legislator was also torched during the period of violence.

The following day, over 100 people were arrested by the police. Some of the crowds were also allegedly led by members of the Social Democratic Party of India (SDPI), an Islamist fundamentalist political outfit and has led to the arrest of a few of its leaders.

Incident
On 11 August 2020, the nephew of an Indian National Congress state legislator Akhanda Srinivas Murthy allegedly posted a derogatory remark on Facebook that targeted the Islamic prophet Muhammad. The post went viral in the area and people began gathering in front of the legislator's residence in Kaval Byrasandra in protest, demanding that the accused be arrested. The police sent two teams from the DJ Halli station to detain the nephew.

According to the police, at around 8p.m., small groups had arrived at Kaval Byrasandra, following which hundreds started gathering around the DJ Halli police station, demanding action against those responsible for the social media message. Members of the SDPI were reportedly present in the crowd at DJ Halli. The people present there tried to report a complaint but claimed that the police were reluctant to do so, which agitated the crowd.

The News Minute reported there were 17–20 Muslims protesting in front of the legislator's residence at 8:30p.m., however within the next hour the numbers swelled to around 200, joined by people armed with sticks, petrol and kerosene cans. This crowd began throwing stones, vandalising the residence and eventually set a part of the property on fire. The legislator and his family were not present inside the residence at the time of the attack. The mob reportedly also indulged in looting at the residence; according to Murthy, ornaments and sarees went missing from his house.

Meanwhile, the police at DJ Halli station attempted to defuse the tension with the assistance of local community members but when one of the teams returned without the accused, the crowd forcefully entered the station, vandalised it and even set police vehicles on fire. At 10:30p.m., two other Congress state legislators Zameer Ahmed Khan and Rizwan Arshad arrived at the DJ Halli station to help subdue the situation but the violence had reportedly gotten out of control by this time. The Bengaluru Police Commissioner, Kamal Pant also arrived around the same time. Between 11:00 p.m and 12:30 a.m, a group of Muslim youths also formed a human chain around the local temple near DJ Halli station to protect it in case of any escalation. According to a later testimony from the police, the situation fortunately did not snowball into a communal riot. Eventually the Karnataka State Reserve Police (KSRP) had to be called in to disperse the crowd and free the policemen trapped inside the station. The KSRP began by lathi charges, proceeded to firing tear gas, then firing warning shots and eventually fired live rounds at the crowd.

In Kaval Byrasandra, by 10:30 p.m the mob at Murthy's house had moved to his nephew's residence, demanding that he be handed over to them and on receiving no response barged in, vandalised and looted the house. The resident family took refuge in a neighbor's house by climbing through parapets. The family's car was burned down as well. The mob eventually moved around the neighborhood setting fire to several cars and a bar. Around 11p.m., rumours started spreading that a neighbouring police station, KG Halli, was protecting the legislator's nephew. During the confrontation with the police in DJ Halli, a section of the mob dispersed and a new mob was formed at KG Halli that attempted to enter the station. However, this mob was met with stronger resistance from the police and in the end resorted to burning down cars parked outside. Several policemen and journalists outside the station were injured by the armed mob. The crowds eventually scattered after the police at DJ Halli station began firing.

According to The Hindu, the total number of participants in the mobs amounted to 2000 while the police firing at DJ Halli resulted in the death of 3 people. The deaths were later confirmed by the city police commissioner, according to whom at least 1000 people were involved. Between 1a.m. and 5a.m., the police began clearing the streets while identifying and arresting those involved in the violence.

Investigation
On 12 August 2020, the JCP (Crime) Bengaluru, Sandeep Patil reported that 110 people had been arrested in relation with the violence. The accused were charged under attempt to murder and obstruction of a public servant. The Bengaluru Police Commissioner, Kamal Pant, stated that a curfew was enforced in the DJ Halli and KG Halli police jurisdictions while section 144 imposed in the rest of the city. Later in the same day, Pant extended the curfew till 6a.m. of 15 August. The Central Crime Branch DCP, Kuldeep Jain justified the police firing and stated that due process was followed. According to his testimony, the police attempted to convince the mob but they had instead turned violent and begun throwing stones at the police due to which additional forces had to be brought in. The Home Minister Basavaraj Bommai also stated that the police had to resort to firing to bring the situation under control.

The families of those killed in the firing claimed they were simply bystanders and did not take part in the violence, as did the family members of many arrested. The legislator's nephew, who made the objectionable post, was also arrested. However, he claimed that his Facebook account was hacked, while his father claimed his phone had been stolen two days before the post. His uncle filed an FIR for the destruction of his ancestral house, claiming 3 crores loss, and sought police protection for himself and his family.

On 14 August 2020, the Bengaluru Police Commissioner reported that 60 more people were arrested in night operations on 14 August, bringing the total arrested to 206. One of them, the husband of a BBMP corporator, was the 7th accused in the First Information Report filed, according to which, he was one of the "conspirators." 80 of the arrested were shifted to a jail in Ballari.

Response
Several Muslim community leaders visited the Akhanda Srinivas Murthy's house and prayed there, and one offered to reconstruct it. The legislator himself claimed he had a "brotherly" relationship with everyone, and that he did not know why anyone wanted to burn down his house. He also called for action against the sharer of the offending post.

B. S. Yediyurappa, Chief Minister of Karnataka, ordered strict action against rioters involved. Congress leader and former Chief Minister of the state Siddaramaiah called for calm and condemned both the riots and the post that incited them, and called for the arrest of those who instigated them. Congress also summoned a legislator meeting over the violence. Leaders in the SDPI denied involvement in the violence and claimed it only occurred due to "police inaction against blasphemy and failure of intelligence," and criticized the police for "unecessarily dragging" their leaders into the incident.

The riots quickly became politicized, with politicians from the BJP accusing Congress of having links with the riots. BJP National Secretary B. L. Santhosh criticized the Congress for allegedly supporting the "right to riot" and engaging in "appeasement" (towards Muslims). Since the legislator is Dalit, many BJP leaders have also accused Congress of being "anti-Dalit." Congress leader Priyank M. Kharge alleged the statements of Santosh were attempts to communalise the incident. Congress also criticized the Karnataka government for failing to prevent the incident, with spokesman Randeep Surjewala claiming they represented "complete failure of law and order machinery."

R. Ashoka, Revenue Minister of Karnataka, claimed the mob had "plans to move to Shivajinagar" afterwards and they had "everything they needed to create violence ready." Karnataka tourism minister C. T. Ravi and Bengaluru South MP Tejasvi Surya demanded compensation for damaged property be forcibly provided by known participants in the riots, a policy proposed by Yogi Adityanath-led Uttar Pradesh following the anti-CAA protests there. Several opposition leaders, including Janata Dal (Secular) leader H. D. Kumaraswamy and Karnataka Congress president D. K. Shivakumar also claimed the riots were a "planned conspiracy."

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The title song almost certainly deserves its own page. It was, after all, one of the most influencial folk songs of all time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 14:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

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Although Manges served in the United States Coast Guard during the World War II era, no reliable sources found as of yet state that he served overseas in a war zone during the war. Accordingly, Category:United States Coast Guard personnel of World War II was removed from the article. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 12:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

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Harry Dutfield

Harry Dutfield (December 1879 – 6 June 1918) was an English professional footballer who played as a full back in the Southern Football League for Brentford.

Personal life
Dutfield worked as a leather dresser and married Louisa Brown in 1899. In May 1917, two-and-a-half-years after the outbreak of the First World War, he enlisted in the 4th (Reserve) Battalion of the Leicestershire Regiment (later the Royal Leicestershire Regiment) in Leicester, being posted to France in October. Private Dutfield was killed in action at Poperinge on 6 June 1918 while serving with his regiment's 1st Battalion and was buried in Nine Elms British Cemetery, west of Poperinge. His eldest son, Private George Henry Dutfield of the King's Own Royal Regiment (Lancaster), was killed in April 1918.

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Patharghata (archaeological site)

Patharghata is an ancient city and one of the most important archeological sites in Bangladesh located in Joypurhat district. It is located at Patharghata in Panchbibi upazila of the district. The Patharghata site is the site of several archeological sites. It is situated on the bank of the river Tulsiganga, 1.5 km east of the upazila headquarters. Traces of the ruins of this ancient city are found on both banks of the Tulsiganga River.

History
The total area of the archeological site is about 4 square kilometers. During excavation, the ruins of an archeological ancient bridge over the Tulsiganga River have been found. During the construction of Catholic missions and adjacent areas, archeological sites have been found in various mounds and numerous artifacts. Among the archaeological installations here are: Mission, Uchai, Bahrampur, Kasia Ghar, Kusumba, Gangaria and several mounds of Brahigram and Nimai Shah's shrine, Badar Kadam, Santal Para.

In addition, excavations, ancient brick fragments, terracotta objects, and more have been discovered as a result of excavations. There are also iron blocks, antique coins, glass fragments, theft and many other necessities.

Similar pieces of pottery of the third-second century have also been found in present-day Pakistan. Many people think that the city probably originated in the first or second century CE. As such, the age of the region may be 2,000 years or more. Apart from the Ages, many traces of the Gupta and Palas have been discovered here. There is also a shrine of the Sultanate era known to the locals as the shrine of Nimai Pir.

The description of various foreign archaeologists is also known to have been found in the area during the Christian fourth-fifth-century Gupta period and from the 8th century to the twelfth-century AD. ancient city is believed to have been the center of art and culture for many different ages.

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Featured article status
This is an old FA promotion, and does not seem to have kept up over the succeeding decade. There are a couple of unsourced paragraphs and other unsourced text, and the prose in many areas has short paragraphs and small sections. Some areas appear not to have received a comprehensive update since early FA. The History of the Concept section is mostly based on 2006/2008 sources, many of which are news or magazine articles rather than higher quality sources which are certainly available. Updates since then are restricted to a brief couple of sentences, which seems insufficient (and is partially sourced to twitter). The Exploration section is paltry, it is where I would expect to find for example an explanation of the reasoning that led to the sentence "Ceres is close to equilibrium, but some gravitational anomalies remain unexplained", which is cited to a Dawn paper. The overall structure of the article has some oddities, why is "Contention regarding the reclassification of Pluto" a separate section so far away from the History of the concept section? The pie charts are causing some image sandwiching, and seem a really odd way to present that data. The source formatting needs some tightening: there's a bare url, and others lack page numbers and access-dates. Others may find more missing areas, it does feel an oddly short article for the scope involved. CMD (talk) 03:52, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * Yeah, it definitely needs work. Not sure I'd have the time this week. — kwami (talk) 15:17, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * The "Contention regarding the reclassification of Pluto" isn't even there and aside from a couple of oblique mentions there is no discussion over the controversy regarding the definition of "dwarf planet" and or issues with the definition used, a continuing issue (note the last paragraph of the first section). Science demands a record with context and debate, but this article seems like it was edited by someone with an overzealous interest in burying even the idea of dissent. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 14:57, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The issue is discussed in Definition of planet.  Serendi pod ous  15:25, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I am circling back to this discussion because I see that there are still uncited passages in the article. Has the necessary updates been made yet? If not, is anyone interested in working on this article, or would someone like to nominate this to WP:FAR? Z1720 (talk) 03:07, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Significant work was put into this article following my comment above, much by Kwami. Better to raise/tag any individual issues with a fresh look, rather than going into FAR. CMD (talk) 08:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Dwarf Planet
Dwarf planets should only be recognized by the IAU right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachbarbo (talk • contribs) 19:38, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

 * No. That's not the IAU's job. Dwarf planets are objects which meet the definition of a dwarf planet. — kwami (talk) 22:38, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Corect I agree <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 16:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Size
What is the maximum size of a dwarf planet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachbarbo (talk • contribs) 02:06, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * No maximum. An object as large as Mars or even Earth could be a DP if it hasn't cleared its orbit. — kwami (talk) 23:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

What about giant planets like the gas giants and ice giants? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachbarbo (talk • contribs) 13:40, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure. A Jupiter-sized object in the outer Oort cloud would be a dwarf planet. On the other hand, a Pluto-mass object in Mercury's orbit would be a full-fledged planet. (I say Pluto-mass because Pluto itself in Mercury's orbit would turn into the most spectacular comet ever seen.) The upper limit is about dominance, not size. Double sharp (talk) 14:36, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

The definition was created for the bodies we know about. There's an obvious division between the giant planets and the terrestrials, but Venus and Mars have to be planets, so the IAU couldn't draw the line there. The next obvious division is between the terrestrials and Eris/Pluto/Ceres, and that's what the IAU chose and what their definition is meant to enshrine. They could've just said "the big eight", but that wouldn't sound very scientific. It's doubtful the IAU definition will work well for other planetary systems, though, and it doesn't work for the early history of even our system.

The next obvious place to draw a line is between planemos and SSSB's, and that was the competing definition of "planet" that was considered by the IAU. And the one that's used by people like Stern and Grundy. But in practice that's a very difficult definition to apply, because we just don't have enough evidence to tell which bodies are planemos. So the IAU definition is practical, whether one agrees with it or not, as long as we don't discover an Earth-sized body in the outer Solar system that throws everything into chaos again the way the discovery of Eris did.

I suspect that if we find an Earth-sized body that is technically a DP, then the IAU will revisit their definition of "planet" and modify it so that the new body counts as a planet. After all, technically Mercury is a SSSB, but everyone ignores that and calls it a planet anyway. — kwami (talk) 21:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * And presumably dynamicists would ignore such a definition or pay lip-service to it the way they used to do to Pluto: call it a planet and then exclude it from their integrations.
 * I really wonder what would happen if even a Mercury-sized TNO was discovered, though. Double sharp (talk) 22:39, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Dwarves are supposed to be small. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachbarbo (talk • contribs) 01:15, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, the terminology is a little unfortunate and makes it look like the distinction is about size, when it's really about dominance. But you could always use the old term "planetoid": something that's like a planet but isn't a planet. Double sharp (talk) 11:01, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think Zach may be right. They are supposed to be small. But the IAU rejected a size limit to define planets (e.g. "Pluto or larger") as arbitrary, so they needed some other way to say the same thing that looked more scientific. They chose orbital dominance. But I wonder how important the dynamic aspect really was, or if it was just convenient. Though it makes sense of course if you're working on the Nice Model.
 * As long as we don't discover anything significantly larger than Pluto, I think we're fine. But if we find things that start filling in the planet-DP gap, it might become an issue again. — kwami (talk) 13:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Mike Brown talked about this in this 2011 talk from about 62 minutes onwards. He thought then that some of the largest inner Oort cloud objects (Sedna's population) would be Mercury- or Mars-sized, though he used a power-law argument and based it on a size of Sedna that we now know to be too big. He thought that the debate would reopen again when something like that was discovered, and that he didn't care if people widened the definition of "planet", but also said that he thought it was important to make it really clear that there's a difference between dominant and non-dominant objects and that a Mars-sized inner Oort cloud object would not be dominant. I agree wholeheartedly with his position. :D
 * So maybe the best answer to the OP's questions is: "The current definition of a dwarf planet focuses only on dominance. Consequently there is no upper size limit, and if we take it by the letter, Jupiter would be a dwarf planet if it were orbiting in the outer Oort cloud. However, we agree with Mike Brown that the definition would be reexamined if anything like that were ever discovered, so we should not take that too seriously at the moment." Double sharp (talk) 14:32, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Recognition
Will the IAU officially recognize Gonggong, Quaoar, Orcus, and Sedna as dwarf planets? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachbarbo (talk • contribs) 14:19, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Doubt it. That's not their job, and if they did, they'd be engaging in pseudoscience. There might be some announcement in the future that refers to one or another of those bodies as DPs, but highly doubtful that they'll try to substitute science with their authority by making an official declaration of fact. — kwami (talk) 23:39, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Tancredi advised the IAU to accept Quaoar, Orcus, and Sedna as "official" "dwarf planets" (his quotes!) back in 2010. (Gonggong had only recently been announced back then, so it wasn't considered.) They didn't respond then, so it's not likely they'll respond eleven years later. Double sharp (talk) 23:50, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

 * The IAU already substituted science with their authority in 2006 by declaring that Pluto (and Ceres and Eris) allegedly aren't planets. 2001:4BC9:A44:18BA:A5B5:96D5:BA04:477B (talk) 17:18, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Dynamically, Pluto, Eris, and all others are very clearly a distinct type of object compared to the "big 8," and there is effectively zero dispute within the astronomical (not planetary science!) community regarding Pluto's reclassification. ArkHyena (talk) 08:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

IAU Division F report refers to Quaoar as a "dwarf planet"
Quote from the 2022 IAU Division F report : "Unexpected ring discovered around dwarf planet Quaoar. A kind of revolution has recently appeared in the field: another Kuiper belt object, Quaoar, hosts also a dense arc embedded in a continuous thinner ring, but that system lies outside Quaoar’s Roche lobe and thus should theoretically not exist. (p 2)"

"An unexpected ring was discovered around dwarf planet Quaoar (p 5)"

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 * Cool! I've added mention of this in some places. Double sharp (talk) 11:25, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This might interest you. :) Double sharp (talk) 11:42, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The fact that the IAU itself is using that wording should put to rest the idea of "official" dwarf planets. — kwami (talk) 21:18, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Peru, Illinois

The name of Peru
I wonder why this city is called Peru. Does it have to do with the Sout-American Country? —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 01:07, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

 * I haven't been able to find out the reason, but Illinois (and some other Midwestern states) have many cities named after other places. These are just some of them:

 * "You can travel internationally without ever leaving the borders of Illinois – Berlin, Cairo, Canton, Edinburg, Frankfort, Geneva, Genoa, Havana, Inverness, Lake Zurich, Marseilles, Milan, Naples, Paris, Pekin, Posen, Rio, Toluca, Toulon, Venice, Vienna and Warsaw. You can even travel to the stars – Orion. Of course, when these names were transferred to Illinois, we often pronounced them differently."

 * http://www.thezephyr.com/monson/illnames.htm

 * Cairo is pronounced more like the syrup, Karo (Kay-roh or KAIR-oh) than its Egyptian namesake. Vienna is VEYE-EN-uh. Many others have unusual pronunciations. Peru is said to be pronounced puh-ROO, but I don't have any personal knowledge on it. The 1957 "Pronunciation Guide for Illinois Place Names" is available in several places on the net. There's also a 2008 U of IL Press book, "Place Names of Illinois" that has an etymology section, but I don't have it. Ileanadu (talk) 01:55, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Carius chemical  — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 19:42, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

The Illinois Valley
There's a tiny bit of ambiguity in the phrase "make up the core of the Illinois Valley."

Illinois Valley is a political/demographic place, but "the Illinois Valley" implies a geographic feature of the state like the Shawnee Hills. I took out "the." That makes it a little clearer that it's a specific place. There would be a slight difference between "the Shawnee Hills" which implies the actual hills as opposed to Shawnee Hills, which refers to a commonly recognized area that has people in it.

For example, there's a town called Cedar Lake in Indiana that borders on the Cedar Lake. The phrases "half of the Cedar Lake" versus "half of Cedar Lake" describe two very different things.

Cedar Lake, the town, is less ambiguous than "Illinois Valley" because it is a legally defined entity and I'm not quite sure what Illinois Valley is. It seems to be an amorphous area such as Little Egypt rather than a legally defined entity? You wouldn't say "make up the core of the Little Egypt." You would say "make up the core of Little Egypt." If you wanted to be clear, you could say "make up the core of the Little Egypt area" or make up the core of the area known as Little Egypt. I'm making too big a deal over 3 letters and I don't feel strongly about this. Ileanadu (talk) 15:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

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Mariame Kolga

Mariame Kolga (born May 31, 1983) is an Ivorian female professional basketball player. She was named to the 2007 national team.

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Chusquea latifolia is a species of Chusquea bamboo in the grass family.

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riavere

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to have again
 * 2) to get (something) back, to recover (an item, money, etc.)
 * 3) to regain (one's health, etc.)

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Elementary Math Facts/Addition

Created 2007 02 10 | Percent completed:

Directions
Present one to three lines as follows: "When I give a problem, you give me the answer. One plus two.  What's the answer?" If you hear any student give the wrong answer, immediately correct the answer and repeat the question. Then go back 2 and start again.

Present the worksheet.

One student has the worksheet and another has the answers.

Ensure students can write 40 answers per minute. If a student is suspected of having motor issues, test the student's handwriting. Ensure the student can write 40 numbers (one and two digit) in one minute. If not, it might be better to have students practice by saying the entire problem and answer.

Have students work for 2 minutes or until they have finished the practice session. Then do the timing for one minute (40 correct problems). If students are able to do the practice without many mistakes but are unable to do 40 problems in one minute, then break up the timings into 15 second sessions. Do 15 second sessions until student is able to do 30 second sessions, then build to 45 second sessions, then one minute. Build slowly. Do not repeat the same timings in one session more than twice. If the student is able to pass all four subsections with 15 second timings, test for the 30 second timing. If the student cannot pass the 30 second timing, move on and consider it passed. Don't bore the student. Students should be able to pass within 1 or 2 test tries. If the student continues to fail the test, go back to the practice and ensure the correction procedures are being done. The student might be learning one or math facts wrong by practicing those wrong.

During practice, ensure the correction procedure is done fully. Correction procedure involves:
 * 1) The teacher or partner giving the correct answer
 * 2) The student repeating the full problem and answer correctly
 * 3) The student going back 1-3 problems
 * 4) If another incorrect answer is given during the correction procedure, do #1-3 and keep going. It might feel

0 + any number

 * $$X + 0 = X$$

The additive identity is 0. Any number to which it is added remains unchanged.

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Hiroshi Kawaguchi

Hiroshi Kawaguchi may refer to:

 * Hiroshi Kawaguchi (actor), Japanese actor
 * Hiroshi Kawaguchi (composer), Japanese composer

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History of Elven Writing Systems/Third Age

= Classical Quenya Mode = At least in that Age, we see the Tengwar Table divided in Series (Témar) and Grades (Tyeller) as found in Appendix E. It was divided in two parts: the 24 “primary” letters, those composed by a telco and lúvar, and 12 “additional”. There was applied a number to each of them, Tinco being the #1 and Úrë the #36, making the glyphs useable as numbers.

A number of tehtar are described by Tolkien concerning the modes used near the end of the Third Age (which doesn’t mean they hadn’t been invented as early as in 2nd Age, or even since Fëanor’s time): The two dots of Tyelpetéma were now considered separate tehtar, able to be imported by other letters (like Anna and Hyarmen as we saw). A 'hook' is known (a small version of Silmë?) called Sa-rince in Quenya and Gammas in Sindarin, that indicates “following s” in the clusters ts, ps and ks/x. An under-tilde was used to indicate long consonants.

We can state with certainty at last, that Yanta and Úrë were now used only for for dipthong compounds.

Tyelpetéma was discarded, as well as the grade with extended stems, although they were used in various ways according to each one’s needs.

The names of the tengwar were now regularised, their Quenya names being the official ones. It is also stated that the Númen, Formen, Rómen, Hyarmen were used as direction marks even in maps written in other languages.

Examples
It is interesting to compare the 3rd Age with earlier spelling:

- `V1 `V`C7Rj°^ `V2^7R5#: `M1~Mj%`V5 = 8`B5^t$ t#7&yE5 `C6 9TmT5#Ì6 1R5: `Cw#6 t$1E; --

''Et Earello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn’ Ambar metta.''

3Df#9DÍ2^ 	Sangahyando < *Thangahyando (‘Thong-cleaver’, a name)

`V7Fj^°dE6 	*Erellochar < Ezellochar (Green Mound in Valinor)

9FjnE 	Helwa < HEL (pale blue)

9YqE 	Hópa < *Chópa (harbour)

g^jt$ 	nolme < ñgolme (knowledge)

nR2$ 	*vende < wende (maiden)

½7~ByR 	hríve (Winter, a season of the Calendar of Imladris)

Tolkien has written Namárie in Tengwar. Some inconsistencies with other rules and sample are found, like non-constant use of Esse and Silme nuquerne, Vala where Wilya would be expected and absence of Súle (súrinen and hísie with Silme although < thúrinen and híthie). That means maybe that some rules weren't followed strictly by the end of the 3rd Age. He has also forgot the ‘following y’ underdots in maryat, the first a of the first namárie and he provides an alternate spelling of the dipthong in caita.

= "General Use" = In The Howlett Rivendell Inscriptions, Tolkien affirms that there was a "general use (applicable to both S[indarin] and Q[uenya]) of the period of the tale" (which refers to The Lord of the Rings). He provides three samples: The Sindarin name Imladrist [sic] `Btj#27T81 and two versions of the English name Rivendell 7Tr2{$j and 7r%2{j$. Possibly, this mode already existed as early as the ../Second Age/, and used in Eregion.

No other samples are explicitly called "general use". There is however a mode that is attested with Sindarin, Quenya and English: A tehtar mode where the Quessetéma is a k-series while Calmatéma is used for postalveolar/palatal sounds. This matches also with the "Westron mode" as described in Appendix E and with the Numenian Mode Chart. So we can consider all these modes to represent applications of the "general use" to different languages.

The "general use" was mainly used by men. It is attested primarily with English, which supposedly corresponds to the Westron (or Numenian) language, and the Elvish texts attested in this mode relate closely to men: Elendil's Oath seen behind the throne of Gondor on The Return of the King Jacket (draft), and the letter of Aragorn to Samwise seen in the King's Letter, Third Version.

The vowel placement in the "general use" seems to be variable: either on the preceding or on the following tengwa. The main Quenya text places them on the following tengwar. Most English texts place them on the preceding tengwar, but there are also contrary samples. The inclusion of the letters Yanta (named "Ai") and Úre (named "Au") in the Numenian Mode Chart may be a hint that the usual Westron placement was with the vowel tehtar on the preceding tengwar.

"General Use" Sindarin (Sindarin Tehtar Mode)
This mode is attested in the King's Letter, Third Version. Therefore this mode was probably used mainly by Men, and not by Elves.

The main difference between this mode and other varieties of the "general use" is the representation of the semivowel /j/, which is not represented with the letter Anna, but with the letter Yanta. The distribution of the letters Óre and Rómen is also special, the former only being used at word endings.

When an article causes mutation to the following consonant, the whole cluster is written as one word (transcribed with a hyphen by Tolkien: i-Varanduiniant, r%7#2{#hU5`C1[E ). A new tehta appears, for the Sindarin vowel y, which is 2 amatixi (overdots) over a consonant. The bar of nasalisation (seen in i-Varanduiniant) except d, t and g, is used also over n, to double it (annon, 5{#5^ ) and maybe this could be applied to m as well. We also see the w-tilde used in words like edwen, and the under-bar of doubling consonants. There appears the letter mh. This sound became v in 3rd Age, and in other cases we see it transcribed as v, but as it seems the traditional spelling was kept in tengwar.

Most of the tengwar are not attested in that text, and their value is guessed by analogy, but many of them seem to have been useless for this mode.

Examples
The King’s Letter is the longest Sindarin text, and was written in this mode:

And some interesting words. Note that diphthongs au, -aw and the semivowel w aren’t attested, so these are only these supposed forms.

1b# tang (string)

1yE7E 5% 27~M2$hD5 Tawar-in-Drúedain (forest of the Woses)

Xè.D5 gwaun (goose)

1~Gy Têw (letter, tengwa)

b% bj$hD4 in ngelaidh (the trees)

t#5^ m.D Amon Lhaw (Hill of Hearing)

Sindarin "Full Writing" with "General Use" Consonants
This Mode appears in another version of the King’s Letter. Probably used by the Dûnedain of Arnor and came to Gondor when Aragorn ascended the throne. It derived from the Mode of Beleriand used in Imladris, but keeps some Adunaic elements.

It differs from the tehta-mode, as well as the Mode of Beleriand. The rules are the same that apply to the Mode of Beleriand, but now Númen and Malta have the value of n and m as in Quenya, and Óre is interchangable with Rómen (no constant rules appear for when each one should be used).

In the King’s Letter, two different ways are found for the diphthong ae: Yanta can be written as an overposed tehta above a (Iorhael, ~h79]âj and ~h79]lj ).

There are two similar "full writing" modes where the k-series is repsented by the quessetéma and not by the calmatéma as in the Elvish modes (classical Quenya and Sindarin mode of Beleriand). One of them is attested with Sindarin, the other with English translations of Westron texts. The were used by Westron speakers, Gondorian men and dwarves from the Erebor. The Sindarin version may be deprecated.

Examples
In this mode a slightly different version of the King’s Letter is written. Let’s compare

ljlk]6 1ljzh1[]6 ]7]xh65 ]6]3h65`Bh5 l4lj9]65 ]6]5 xh2{h6 ]6 ]65h6 ]6 9`V6 `Bw{]Ö6 ]5{.Ö ]x{jl5{]3] `B r]6]2{{.Ö5`B]1[ l6`B5 2hjh3l5 l3.Öj - lxh6 wl5 xl6l2`B]2 26]5{]Öj l6`B5 xè`B6`B3 l2èl5-= ]6 l ]5`B6] l5{]8 8.Öj]5{]2 šlj°®5 `V5 e]Ö5ˆ l27l xhj l ]5`V6] 1`V6]2 `B cl62`B6 ql69]lj › `B 8l5{.Ö q]1[9]lj l81]3]6 ]Þ5 › zh2{`B6 `B 26]5{ - ]6 tl6`Bj wlk 2`V5 - ]6 lj]5h6= tl6`Bj= xjh6e`B5{`Blj ]6 lÖ6`Bl5 8lj°]3 2`V5 - ]6 ~Bh69]Þj= xlj`B6= zh62hr= ]6 w]6]rh65 = ~Bh5{]3 2`V5 = ] el69]Þj ]6 ]t tl6`Bj 8.Öj]2 .Ö5 ]6]5 h t`B5]81`B6`B3 5ljc]Þ5l5 .Ö5 lc.Ö7 =-=

''Elessar Telcontar Aragorn Arathornion Edhelharn Aran Gondor ar Arnor ar Hír iMbair Annui anglennatha i Varanduiniant erin dolothen Ethuil, egor ben genediad Drannail erin Gwirith edwen. Ar e anira ennas suilannad mhellyn in phain. Edregol e aníra tírad I cherdir Perhael (I sennui Panthael estathar aen) Condir I Drann. Ar Meril bess dín, ar Elanor, Meril, Glorifinniel ar Eirien sellath dín, ar Iorhael, Gelir, Cordof ar Baravorn, ionnath dín A Pherhael ar am Meril suilad uin Aran o Minas Tirith nelchaenen uin Echuir''

And the previous words. Note that diphthongs au, -aw and the semivowel w aren’t attested either.

1]b 	Tang (string)

1]y]7 `B5 27.Fl2]Ö5 	Tawar-in-Drúedain (forest of the Woses)

Xè]ê5 	Gwaun (goose)

1ly 	Têw (letter)

`Bb blj]Ö4 	in ngelaidh (the trees)

]th5 m]ê 	Amon Lhaw (Hill of Hearing)

"General Use" Westron
The Westron speakers seem to have fitted perfectly the sounds of their language in the table, according to the shapes of each letter, better than any elvish language did. The main reason was maybe the wider variety in Westron phonology.

The names of the letters may be a sound game. They used the vowel o for dental names, i for labial, e for palatal and a for alveolar. It seems they considered o a frontal vowel, a a back vowel and i, e their intermediate.

Table
This table uses the letter names attested on the Numenian Mode Chart.

Examples
There are of course no Westron texts by Tolkien, or even single Westron words written in the Numenian mode, but our best examples of this mode are the English Tengwar transcriptions (like the Title Page) and the Ring Inscription that both used a mode similar to Numenian (where the tehtar were placed above maybe the preceding consonant). Following this, we will try to represent a few known Westron (Hobbitish) names as they could be written.

w#1'T ,Tjw%7~CeD 	Batti Zilbirâpha (Barney Butterburr)

t.D7E j#w%b% 	Maura Labingi (Frodo Baggins)

7E,D5&6 1~Mz 	Razanur Tûc (Peregrin Took)

m^37Et 	Hlothram (cottager)

Northern Numenian Mode
This mode is a Westron convention in its northern variety. It is exemplified (as English texts) in the King’s Letter and the Book of Mazarbul.

The main difference from the other known full modes is of course the value of the letters which match those of the Numenian mode and not Sindarin. Note also that the letter ‘a is used for a instead of the known crescent a-tengwa. An underdot is used by Tolkien to indicate unvoiced sounds in English, which maybe fulfilled the absence of ‘a.

In the King’s Letter, a distinction is made between Ar and Aro, like Óre and Rómen in Quenya. Au is used as semiconsonatal w and Wí has the value of u. Consonantal y is expressed by the long carrier. However in the Book of Mazarbul, Aro takes the value of w, as in the Adunaic Mode.

Dipthongs are shown again with the two amatixi and the w-tilde. It is interesting to note that except the long consonants, even long vowels make use of the under bar.

Examples
It’s interesting to compare the same words as written with this mode.

wn1'` ,`jw`7n;en 	Batti Zilbirâpha (Barney Butterburr)

tné7n jnw`b` 	Maura Labingi (Frodo Baggins)

7n,n5y6 1y;z 	Razanur Tûc (Peregrin Took)

mh37yt 	Hlothram (cottager)

= Angerthas Erebor = In TA 1981, the Dwarves fled from Moria. Years later Thráin I came to Erebor and founded a dwarf-kingdom. There the Cirth were modified further and some new were added, but some reverted back to their Elvish usage.

They reintroduced $ and q but substituted R and T again for g and gh this time, or as variants to their original cirth. The only cirth they introduced are only X and C for ps and ts.

This mode was used in Westron by Dwarves. The lower inscription of Balin’s Tomb is written in English, as well as the Book of Mazarbul. There we find some new cirth for vowel combinations and dipthongs, not known if valid in Westron or just used only by Tolkien in English.

We learn also how long vowels and consonants are treated. An over circumflex indicates a long consonant while an under bar indicates a long vowel. Must we exclude the cirth for long vowels? There is however a distinct letter for long ll by Tolkien for English words like fall.

After the 2nd Age, the Cirth were obsoleted by the Tengwar among the western races and the Cirth remained in use only by Dwarves and Men. The Rohirrim and the Men of Dale used two related simplified forms. The Dwarves developed even pen-written cursive forms, since they used them exclusively in any form of writing communication, even in paper.

Examples
That is how a Dwarf or a Northerner could write these Westron words.

2c8ÊlIDla2l@cÎ3c 	Batti Zilbirâpha (Barney Butterburr)

6*@cIac2lhl 	Maura Labingi (Frodo Baggins)

@l2c9Gcu 	Ribadyan (byrding)

.c6c,S:cg 	Hamanullas (‘Lobelia’)

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Winter Blues

The winter blues is another name for seasonal affective disorder

Winter Blues may refer to:
 * Winter Blues, book by Norman E. Rosenthal
 * "Winter Blues", 1927 song by Madlyn Davis
 * "Winter Blues", B-side of "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" (1965)
 * Winter Blues, album by Edgar Winter

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The Westerner (TV series)

The Westerner is an American Western television series that aired on NBC from September 30 to December 30, 1960. Created and produced by Sam Peckinpah, who also wrote and directed some episodes, the series was a Four Star Television production. The Westerner stars Brian Keith as amiable, unexceptional cowhand/drifter Dave Blassingame, and features John Dehner as rakish Burgundy Smith, who appeared in three episodes.

Overview
Dave Blassingame is a cowboy and drifter who is handy with a gun and his fists, travelling through an often lawless country trying to get enough money together to buy his own ranch.

His dog Brown is played by Spike, trained by Frank Weatherwax and best known for playing the title role in Old Yeller. Brown figures prominently in a number of episodes, appears in all of them, and always appears following Blassingame during the end credits.

Main

 * Brian Keith as Dave Blassingame
 * Spike as Brown
 * Hank Gobble as Digger
 * Jimmy Lee Cook as Band Member
 * Michael T. Mikler as Band Member
 * Marie Selland as Addie McKeen
 * John Dehner as Burgundy Smith

Guest stars
Guest stars included Malcolm Atterbury, Ben Cooper, Katy Jurado, and John M. Pickard, Sam Jaffe, and one episode (the first, "Jeff") memorably featured Warren Oates as a drunk quietly passing out at a table. Other guest stars, like Ms. Jurado, would later go on to appear in some of Peckinpah's feature films. These included John Anderson (Ride the High Country), R. G. Armstrong (Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid), Dub Taylor (The Wild Bunch, The Getaway), and Mary Murphy (Junior Bonner).

Music
The musical score was largely the work of Four Star's Herschel Burke Gilbert.

Broadcast
The pilot for The Westerner appeared on CBS's Dick Powell's Zane Grey Theatre.

Syndication as The Westerners
For rerun syndication it was grouped with three other short-lived Western series from the same company, Black Saddle starring Peter Breck, Johnny Ringo starring Don Durant, and Law of the Plainsman starring Michael Ansara, under the umbrella title The Westerners, bracketed with hosting sequences featuring Keenan Wynn.

Home media
A two-DVD set of the complete series including the pilot episode was released by Shout! Factory in February 2017.

Reception
The critically acclaimed series ran for 13 episodes, but it was cancelled because of low ratings (due to being placed in the same time slot as The Flintstones and Route 66).

The Losers (1963)
An attempt to update and revive the hardbitten series aired as a January 1963 episode of The Dick Powell Theater, "The Losers", directed by Peckinpah and featuring Lee Marvin as Dave Blassingame and Keenan Wynn as Burgundy Smith, but set in the modern West. Rosemary Clooney portrayed the leading lady.

Will Penny (1968)
One of the episodes of The Westerner, "Line Camp" guest-starring Robert Culp, was the basis for the 1968 film Will Penny starring Charlton Heston. Slim Pickens plays essentially the same role, as a feisty derby-wearing cook, in both the television episode and the movie.

The Gambler Returns (1991)
Brian Keith briefly played the same character again in 1991's The Gambler Returns: The Luck of the Draw, which featured a number of 1950s and 1960s television Western series leads reprising their roles in quick cameo appearances (Gene Barry as Bat Masterson, Hugh O'Brian as Wyatt Earp, Jack Kelly as Bart Maverick, Clint Walker as Cheyenne Bodie, David Carradine as Kung Fu's Caine, Chuck Connors as The Rifleman, and so on).

title: The Westerner (TV series)


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rotary evaporator

Etymology
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Noun

 * 1)  A piece of laboratory equipment used to gently evaporate solvents from a chemical solution in a temperature controlled environment.

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manicomio

Etymology
, based on, from , replacing with.

Noun

 * 1)  insane asylum, lunatic asylum, mental hospital
 * 2) madhouse all senses
 * 1) madhouse all senses

Etymology
Based on, from , replacing with.

Noun

 * 1)  insane asylum, lunatic asylum, mental hospital
 * 2) madhouse all senses
 * 1) madhouse all senses
 * 1) madhouse all senses

Etymology
Based on, from , replacing with.

Noun

 * 1)  insane asylum, lunatic asylum, mental hospital
 * 2) madhouse all senses
 * 1) madhouse all senses

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vézt

Etymology
, from.

Verb

 * 1) to carry on a wheeled vehicle

Usage notes
Vézt is in the class of Czech concrete verbs. Its counterpart, is an abstract verb.

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neurotrophic

Adjective

 * 1) Of or relating to neurotrophy.

Translations

 * German: neurotroph
 * Italian: neurotrofico

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Year of birth
We need a reference. Is it 1926 or 1930 ? --Racklever (talk) 11:16, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

 * It is 1926. Birth registered Chorley Registration District, Jan-Mar 1926, vol 8e page 169 2A02:C7C:A683:8800:152F:9F0A:89A4:6E20 (talk) 11:19, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The fact is for some reason, throughout his career, his DoB was given as 1930. [e.g. Stenton & Lees; Times Guide to the HoC, etc.] We now know that was wrong, but still, I think it should be noted. RodCrosby (talk) 22:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

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Chahar Suq, Razavi Khorasan

Chahar Suq (, also Romanized as Chahār Sūq) is a village in Dughayi Rural District, in the Central District of Quchan County, Razavi Khorasan Province, Iran. At the 2006 census, its population was 16, in 7 families.

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Galermi Aqueduct

The Galermi Aqueduct is an ancient subterranean aqueduct; the longest and most important aqueduct of Syracuse. It gets its name from the Galermi area, a place name of uncertain origin, but perhaps from the Arabic for "Water hollow". Fazello called the aqueduct Conductus pulchrae foeminae (meaning Conduit of the modest woman)

Description
Dug into the living rock, it was originally around 40 km long, bringing water directly from Monte Lauro. In later times it was shortened to a length of 29 km, drawing water from the sources of the Calcinara river, near Pantalica down to the higher parts of the city, near Neapolis. It carried around 500 litres per second. The work is considered a masterpiece of hydraulic engineering and conformed to the instructions later given by Vitruvius for the optimal slope. It is noted by him that this aqueduct, compared to other Greek aqueducts, had a great level of precision and was constructed with finesse.

In the course of construction, several inspection wells were built, with steps down carved in the rock. The wells not only allowed access but also allowed the excavated material to be removed and, once construction was completed, allowed the identification of blockages and breakages should water flow out of them.

History
The aqueduct was built by Gelo in 480 BC, using the Carthaginians captured in the Battle of Himera as labour. Its construction was certainly difficult, both because of the need to maintain a constant slope and because of the problematic lay of the land, full of ravines and valleys. Quarrying was carried out with the fire technique, which softened the rock, making it crumble more easily. After it was abandoned in the Medieval period, the aqueduct became the centre of a controversy between the state and the heirs of the old lords of Sortino. The controversy had its root in the exclusive use of the water which had repeatedly prevented the Duke of Floridia from supplying himself through the "peritoi." Only in 1933 with the publication of a royal charter was it finally determined that the water and the subsoil were the exclusive property of the state. The controversy had involved all the heirs of the Marchese Specchi, as well as the families of Gaetani, Bellìa Gaetani, Gaetani di Naro, etc, and concluded with the command for all the heirs to pay an enormous sum for lost revenue and court costs. The ancient aqueduct was finally put into use for supplying the city with water and even today part of the ancient aqueduct remains in use.

Nowadays two other, secondary conduits branch out from the aqueduct, each about 1 km long, called Paradiso and Tre Miglia.

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User:Siva140/Books/Teoria de la Relatividad

Teoria de la Relatividad

 * Albert Einstein
 * Theory of relativity
 * Special relativity
 * General relativity
 * Frame of reference
 * Inertial frame of reference
 * Principle of relativity
 * Relativity of simultaneity
 * Lorentz transformation
 * Lorentz factor
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Talk:Misty Rowe

Untitled
Now THAT is a woman.

Sings, "...I searched the world over and thought I found true love. You met another and PLLT! You were gone." — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 19:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Dating Game
I have removed the unsourced details concerning Misty Rowe's appearance on the television game show The Dating Game. Despite repeated efforts, I am unable to verify *any* details beyond the fact that she did appear on the show (http://www.tvofyourlife.com/datinggame.htm). Even that minimal reference is suspect, however, because it includes no details; e.g., episode number, original air date, etc. The best I can find on the interwebs are tautological, copy-and-paste replicates of the original Wikipedia passage, but those are of course hardly valid "sources." If anyone can find an independent, reliable source for the original material, please restore it. Thanks. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 14:19, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Lack of common info
Why is the fact she was in Playboy & married to soap star James Depavia removed? There is no dispute about those facts & are legit parts of her bio? To me it seems those are facts that would be removed by her or a press agent for her rather than a wiki editor.

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Talk:Fourier analysis

(moved here, the main lesson isnt the place...)

Good day. This topic is neigh on impossible to understand, and I you can help wiki, do it! I am lost!

D.

Pretty good introduction at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_analysis

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1910–11 Isthmian League

The 1910–11 season was the sixth in the history of the Isthmian League, an English football competition.

Clapton were champions, winning their first Isthmian League title. At the end of the season Bromley resigned from the league.

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Geometry for Elementary School/Introduction

Why geometry?
Geometry is one of the most elegant fields in mathematics. It deals with visual shapes that we know from everyday life.

Who should use this book?
This book is intended for use by a parent (or a teacher or ward) and a child. It is recommended that the parent have some familiarity with geometry, but this is not necessary. The parent can simply read the chapter before teaching the child and then learn it together.

Book guidelines
The classic book about geometry is Euclid's Elements. This book helped teach geometry for hundreds of years, so we feel that writing this book based on the Elements is a correct step.

We will adapt parts of the book for children and modify the order of some topics in order to make the book clearer.

The learning will be based on constructions and proofs. A construction is a method of creating a geometric object (such as a triangle) using a set of tools. In the case of this book, the tools we will be using are a compass and a ruler. A proof is a logical trail where we can prove one fact by starting with some given information and make a series of conclusions based on that information. Oftentimes it is more difficult to prove a result than to simply find the result.

The constructions are useful for letting the child experience geometric ideas and get visual results.

The proofs are a good way to understand geometry and are a good basis for future study of logic.

Since the book is for children, we omit some of the proof details and use intuition instead of precise definition. On the other hand, we insist on correct and elegant proofs. Precise definitions and exact proofs can be found in regular geometry books and can be used to extend to material to some of the children.

Notation
The notation that is used in the book is defined the first time it is used. However, in order to simplify its use, it is also summarized in the notation section of the conventions chapter at the end of the book.

How to contribute to this book
This book uses British English as a primary language; however, there is a table provided at the end of this book that summarises all the American terms that readers may come across.

Before using this book
Make sure that these resources are available before using this book:
 * A protractor
 * A compass
 * A ruler
 * Graph paper
 * Single-lined paper

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Template talk:Bookshelves (all)

Organizing bookshelves
--Andreas Ipp 20:55, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Please move books to existing bookshelves.
 * Please add a new bookshelf only if necessary, and if it contains enough existing active books (e.g. splitting of a large bookshelf)
 * Take out books of the list of active Wikibooks, if they look like stubs and nobody added anything in the last 3 months (check history). These can be moved to the corresponding "Suggested Wikibooks" section of the bookshelf.
 * Somebody could move "How-tos" to "Miscellaneous" (creating a section "How-tos" there), since it only contains 4 active books so far.

It's a shame the shelf label says "computer science" and not "computing science".

Health Science
Medicine has its limits as a bookshelf when I noticed there were a few other books that were related to medical subjects but did not fall withing the purview of Medicine. Hence I went ahead and created a Health Science bookshelf. But after having done that I saw that many named books were yet to start. I thought I would let it stay for two reasons: Your thoughts on this are welcome. I will try and keep only active books in the shelves. At the same time I feel that people feel more encouraged to contribute when they see a book already on the shelf. And by keeping only active books we eliminate the participation of these potential contributors.
 * not many medical people have been active though it happens to be the collaboration of the month
 * by expanding the boundaries and including more disciplines I hope to encourage the participation of more people.

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Redirect to All bookshelves?
This is redundant with All bookshelves and is only being included on All Books. Does anyone have any concerns with redirecting this page? --hagindaz 00:35, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Dark Skull

Dark Skull (Viejo calavera) is a 2016 Bolivian drama film directed by Kiro Russo. It was selected as the Bolivian entry for the Best Foreign Language Film at the 90th Academy Awards, but it was not nominated.

Plot
Elder Mamani's immaturity and recklessness make him a liability as a Huanuni tin mine, where he's filled his recently deceased father's job. Elder spirals further out of control until his fellow workers petition to have him removed.

Cast

 * Narciso Choquecallata as Padrino Francisco
 * Anastasia Daza López as Grandma Rosa
 * Felix Espejo Espejo as Juan
 * Israel Hurtado as Gallo

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Rob Nguyen

Robert Hoang Nguyen (born 18 August 1980 in Brisbane) is an Australian racing car driver of Vietnamese descent who competed in the 2002 and part of the 2003 International Formula 3000 seasons before running out of money. He was noted for coming straight into F3000 after only nine previous car races in his life and was at one stage regarded as a potential major talent.

Early career
After growing up in Australia, Nguyen was sent to the University of Lausanne, Switzerland to study Business in 2000. As a reward for his studies, his parents paid for him to have a test run in a Formula Opel car at an Austrian racing school run by Walter Penker. His first ever run in a racing car was impressive enough for Penker to invite him to take part in a full season of German Formula VW in 2001. Racing under a Swiss license, he finished fifth in the final championship standings, with two podium finishes and a pole position. Penker arranged a Formula 3000 test with the Team Astromega, and Nguyen was promptly signed for 2002.

2002
Nguyen lined up for the first International Formula 3000 race of the 2002 season in Brazil for the Team Astromega only fifteen months after first sitting in a single-seater racing car and only nine races of the German Formula VW series behind him. Nevertheless, he proved a competent performer despite his lack of experience, finishing thirteenth on his début. He finished fifth in the sixth race of the season at the Nürburgring, scoring two points which remained his tally for his impressive first year. He was involved in a spectacular collision with Ricardo Mauricio at Monza, when the Brazilian driver hit the back of Nguyen's car and rolled before landing on its wheels and catching fire. However, he did set the fastest time at a test session on the same circuit in June of the same year, beating the times of eventual champion Sébastien Bourdais and other past and future Formula One drivers Tomáš Enge and Giorgio Pantano.

2003
Nguyen switched to rookie Spanish team BCN Competicion for the 2003 season. He finished eighth at Imola and fifth at Barcelona to score five points under the revised scoring system, but he could only manage thirteenth at the A1-Ring. By the next race, in Monaco, Nguyen had run out of funding and lost his drive with the team, to be replaced by Will Langhorne. There was no other deal available, and Nguyen was forced to drop out of the series. He appeared in a testing session at the end of the year with Coloni, but he did not race again.

Formula Holden
Nguyen returned to his home country in 2004 to race in the Australian Formula 4000 Holden series with Hocking Motorsport, finishing third in the championship with two wins, five podiums, a pole position and 82 points from the seven races in the series. He was again left without a drive in 2005, and now only races for sport.

Complete International Formula 3000 results
(key) (Races in bold indicate pole position; races in italics indicate fastest lap.)

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Cookbook:Mashed Pumpkin

Ingredients

 * 1 small pumpkin
 * 1 pinch of salt
 * 1 pinch of pepper
 * About 1 tablespoon butter

Procedure

 * 1) Clean your pumpkin well, being careful to remove manure, dirt, etc. Chop off the stem.
 * 2) Bake the cleaned pumpkin in a 375 °F (190 C) oven for about 45 minutes per 250 g. A small pumpkin of less than 500 g works best.
 * 3) Remove pumpkin and allow to rest for 5–10 minutes.
 * 4) During this time, take out sea salt, butter, and your pepper mill.
 * 5) Chop pumpkin in half with cleaver, butcher knife, or kitchen hatchet.
 * 6) Remove seeds and guts; roast seeds and discard the rest.
 * 7) Separate the skin from the flesh.
 * 8) Place hot pumpkin flesh in a food processor, along with salt, pepper, and butter to taste.

Notes, tips and variations

 * If pumpkin is not soft when removed from oven, place back in for 10–15 minutes each time.
 * An alternative if you have no food processor is to mash the pumpkin flesh by hand until nearly smooth.

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Melissa Bragg

Melissa (Mel) Bragg (born 17 December 1994) is an Australian netball and AFL Women's player for the Geelong Football Club.

She has previously played in the Suncorp Super Netball league for the Collingwood Magpies.

Netball career
Bragg's elite-level netball career commenced in 2015, when she played for the Victorian Fury team in the Australian Netball League. She moved to the Collingwood Magpies as a training partner in 2018 and played for Tasmanian Magpies, though she made her debut for the Magpies at Super Netball level in the 2018 regular season against the New South Wales Swifts. From 2018 to 2019, Bragg made four Super Netball appearances as a training partner, and she was elevated to the Magpies' senior list ahead of the 2020 season.

Australian rules football career
Bragg switched to playing Australian rules football in 2022, playing in the 2022 VFL Women's season with Geelong. She was later added to Geelong's AFL Women's squad for AFL Women's season seven.

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辛苦

Adjective

 * 1) laborious; hard; miserable; exhausting

Verb

 * 1) to work hard; to toil; to go through hardship
 * 2)  to trouble; to bother
 * 1)  to trouble; to bother

Noun

 * 1) hardship

Verb

 * 1) go through great hardship

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Talk:Indonesia omnibus law protests

Scope
Shouldn't the article just be about the bill itself? And then there would be sections on the bill and the protest? There surely is enough coverage on the bill and the context is needed to fully understand the protests. (not watching, please )  czar  03:06, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Maybe both should have separated articles? Since the protests themselves already widespread, huge, & have enough coverage to became notable Nyanardsan (talk) 07:30, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I created a separate article Omnibus Law on Job Creation, I'd like to ask for help to move paragraphs if necessary between the articles Germartin1 (talk) 21:00, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Separating the bill and the protests
Please refrain from adding stuff not related to the protests. If it's to do with the bill but not the protests, there's Omnibus Law on Job Creation. Juxlos (talk) 10:50, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , These social media stuffs are responses to the protest, basically virtual protests. Sure it is relevant to the bill, but they are part of the protests, so it suits here. Plus, don't copy-paste to other articles due to copyright attribution.  Gerald WL  10:52, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * CC-BY-SA 3.0. And aside from the TikTok mention, none of the section referred to the protests. It's all government influencers. Juxlos (talk) 10:54, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes, "BY," which means the revision history must have attribution of the users who have contributed to the article, the time, the edit preview, all of it. CC doesn't mean public domain. And "It's all government influencers"? What? Not all of the "influencers" are from the govt, several are also content creators etc. Please discuss before a mass removal of the section.  Gerald WL  10:57, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Check the section again. It was all about government influencers paid to influence the public to support the bill during the deliberation process. No mention of the protests being related to the influencers directly - except for the TikTok, which had been readded. Juxlos (talk) 10:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , again, it's best to discuss it here per WP:3RR, as I think we have been in an edit war here. That way we can get wider opinions on this. I definitely support the section to stay. Other editor inputs are welcomed.  Gerald WL  11:02, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I urge you to actually read the sources:
 * Source #23: An article discussing the controversy of artists and influencers explicitly promoting the bill. No mention of the protests.
 * Source #25: An article about primarily Ardhito Pramono, plus a mention of a number of other artists. No mention of the protests.
 * Source #26: An article discussing Jokowi's relationship with influencers, touching on COVID-19 instead of the law. One can infer the relation, but that's WP:OR.
 * I ask you to remove the section with the exception of the TikTok. If the sources does not even mention the protests in passing, why would they be in the article about protests instead of the bill? Juxlos (talk) 11:07, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , again, I can't remove it considering I need a wider opinion from other editors as I am involved in the edit war. Some sources may not mention it, but it's sure enough that these influencers use social media to take part in the protests. About the last source you put, that definitely is nonsense, so I'll go remove it, as it is blatant misinfo. But for the others, I need others' inputs and a consensus.  Gerald WL  11:19, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with Juxlos that source 23 and 25 should not be used here as they are not mentioning the protests, but they should be used at the law article. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 11:27, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the opinion. I looked for sources, all of them says that the influencers are paid. I think we can alter the section if this is the case, with the section changed to "Paid influencers" or something.  Gerald WL  11:46, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

See above. The influencers weren't talking about the protests and their mention is more appropriate in the article about the law itself. Juxlos (talk) 13:05, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Anarchists
The issue of social media aside, is it really WP:DUE to include a couple anarchists being arrested as its own section? It's a single sentence that doesn't seem to have much potential to be bigger and it's basically a drop in the ocean. Juxlos (talk) 11:12, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have put it at the Java subsection, feels like that's the best I can do while still telling the information.  Gerald WL  11:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

ENGVAR
The original author of this article, wrote 'labour', 'industrialization', and 'program', so, the article was originally written in Canadian English. I will add 'Use Canadian English' template for consistency of spelling per MOS:ENGVAR and MOS:RETAIN. Ivan Humphrey (talk) 12:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that!  Gerald WL  13:37, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I didnt mean to do that, im Indonesian and my English is quite bad. I dont know it was Canadian English. Sorry. Nyanardsan (talk) 07:36, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Relax pal, there is no need to apologize. My English is also not so good. Cheers! Ivan Humphrey (talk) 14:28, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

 * In my opinion, the template should not to be used to this article because neither a topic related to or places in Canada. However, per Ivan Humphrey, this article is allowed to use the "Use Canadian English" template due to some words exclusive to Canadian English. BengkelBerkah05 (Talks/Contribs) 04:00, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Protests section
I think the protests section need to be written in chronological order instead of separating it in locations. Enjoyer of World💬 13:04, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Also, make a distinction between protests before and after the passing of the bill. Enjoyer of World💬 13:08, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think the island-divided outline is already good. The exact chronology of the protests are also unknown yet. All we know is that it started in Feb 2020.  Gerald WL  13:38, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Pro-government influencers & ads notable?
Are pro-government influencers & artists notable enough to be included? As they clash with activists on the internet. This news article convinces me that they are notable enough to be included and even i think the article still lacks information about them.Nyanardsan (talk) 13:05, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have added infos on that link to the section.  Gerald WL  04:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 9 October 2020

The result of the move request was: page moved. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 15:42, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Indonesia omnibus bill protests → Indonesia omnibus law protests – After the bill officially becomes law on 5 October, the English language name of the law become "Omnibus law on Job Creation" no longer as "Omnibus bill". Therefore, the name of this article shall be renamed as "Indonesia omnibus law protests" in order to reflect the bill that passed into law by parliament. In fact, many reliable source, whether English or non-english language source notably Indonesian language sources now refer to protests as "Omnibus law protest" (Unjuk rasa UU sapu jagat in Indonesian), not longer as "Omnibus bill protest" (Unjuk rasa RUU Sapu jagat in Indonesian). Indonesian language wikipedia now changes the title in order to reflect that the bill already passed by parliament as a law. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 20:58, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Support. But note that undang-undang sapu jagat is not used colloquially. So don't use that as an example. Enjoyer of World💬 21:56, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Support Nyanardsan (talk) 00:38, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. What about something with "protests and riots against omnibus law"? Enjoyer of World💬 03:18, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. It also means the whole article should be changed extensively, as nearly all of the article called it a bill.  Gerald WL  03:34, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Done copyediting.  Gerald WL  04:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Ivan Humphrey (talk) 14:30, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support for short: this isn't a bill anymore. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 15:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per above. An unimportant person (talk) 05:29, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Blue Sonic (talk) 10:10, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Today I feel bold and I have moved the article! Yeah Jimbo! Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 15:40, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Controversy
{{quote|The FPI reportedly drove an ambulance to help those hundreds of protesters who were injured, much to the vexation of a police, calling it the "Car of Dajjal" {Indonesian: Mobil Dajjal).}} This seems quite controversial, knowing that the reference used isn't a neutral reliable source (PKS Piyungan a.k.a Portal PIYUNGAN) and I haven't found any other reliable references that state this. Could you give another references for this or probably better if it's deleted? Symphonium264 (talk) 07:39, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I only find this primarily source: https://mobile.twitter.com/DPPFPI_ID/status/1315025011460116480 other than goriau, Portal-islam.id, and geloranews.Symphonium264 (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , found this from a Riau newspaper (https://www.goriau.com/berita/baca/viral-oknum-polisi-di-riau-teriaki-ambulans-fpi-sebagai-mobil-dajjal.html). Will replace it with this.  Gerald WL  09:37, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Goriau's article is lil bit better but it based on geloranews article (not reliable source).Symphonium264 (talk) 11:50, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , a source I can find that does not have any mentions of Gelora is this, although I get a sense that the website has some Islamic theme, proven by its slogan, featured article, and first paragraph praising FPI. However there's a video clip of it, which could possibly back it up (did a check and it is not edited in any way). If that's still unreliable, I found this, also featuring a video from a different angle. Thoughts?  Gerald WL  12:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

KAMI
In recent days, media outlets have reported that the police arrested several people from the "KAMI" group. Is it time for us to enter these groups into parties to the civil conflict? --Tensa Februari (talk) 07:10, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Front page?
How is this not on the Wikipedia front page on the news section? Can we make it as one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 15:57, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Most editors are pessimistic about this incident's coverage. Quite sad. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 09:43, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Benny Kabur Harman
Who is Benny Kabur Harman and why is he in the infobox?Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 02:55, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , he's the only DPR member that openly opposes the law.  Gerald WL  10:46, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Please integrate the fact by stating it in the article. The infobox serves it purpose as the summarizing tool for the article. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 11:44, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

And I think it would be more proper to add the names of the opposition leader (PKS and Democrat leader in the DPR) rather than mentioning a MP whose mic happens to be shut by the speaker while talking. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 11:46, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Protest still ongoing
I heard from a friend that there are still protests every Tuesday in Jakarta

"protests have not been active for a concerning amount of time, it is considered dead, at least until we see a sruge of protests again" , I do not agree, just because there hasn't been much news coverage doesn't mean it's over.Germartin1 (talk) 23:40, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you say the protest is still ongoing, please add sources because I searched news about the protest in Google, the last [major] protest was in 17 November 2020 (as in Indonesia omnibus law protests). BengkelBerkah05 (Talks/Contribs) 05:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Wikipedia relies on news or other reliable sources, and aggregates what it says. Hearing it from a friend means original research, which is not what Wikipedia is structured upon.  Gerald WL  08:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerald, I never implied to use what I heard as a basis, just that it's likely that the demonstrations have not ended. Please change it back to the present tense, see https://kompas.id/baca/foto/2020/12/16/unjuk-rasa-buruh-menolak-uu-cipta-kerja/ and https://m.cnnindonesia.com/nasional/20201216135806-20-582900/buruh-akan-demo-setiap-mk-gelar-sidang-uu-cipta-kerja Germartin1 (talk) 05:18, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , you could add it back to present tense and cite it with these sources by yourself per WP:BOLD. I can't really focus on this article for now as I have some stuff to do (seeable at my userpage "To do lists," so yeah.  Gerald WL  12:29, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Unless further sources can be provided that indicate the protests are indeed still ongoing, the article should probably be changed to reflect their inactivity. The Indonesian-language article says they stopped as of October 2020 and the sources listed in the English-language article indicate that the protests were only planned to last until 10 November 2020, with the last major protest being recorded as happening on 16 December 2020. Given the last recorded major protest happened over half a year ago, I think it's safe to say that these protests are over. I will be happy to change the article to reflect this if there are no objections.--Grnrchst (talk) 11:53, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , seems perfect for me. It's beeen (or at least it feels like) ages, and I think the protesters don't even bother to protest rn.  Gerald WL  12:44, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

... and it is still ongoing as of right now? --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 02:35, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

 * I dont think we should consider smaller annual labour protests that so happened to also highlight the same demand as part of this one. We dont include 1998 protests as ongoing despite annual Kamisan protests. Omnibus law is not going away anytime soon and majority of labours & students seems dont even bother protesting it anymore. But I dont know, maybe others have opinion about this? Nyanardsan (talk) 07:20, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The fact that it's stated as ongoing to the present day but the first sentence uses the past tense "were" is ridiculous. Maybe just choose 2021 as the end year. Neocorelight (Talk) 05:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

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