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Talk:Vector field/Archive 1

Picture for vector field on a sphere
Shouldn't the vectors in the picture for vector field on a sphere be tangent vectors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 14:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Vulgarizing the Introduction
The introduction is rather good as is. However, I think it would be important to draw an analogy, as the reader can have a picture in his mind before attacking the maths. I'm sure my 14 year-old self would have liked it.

If there isn't any disapproval, I'd like to quote the own article and expand the second sentence to: "Vector fields are often used in physics to model, for example, the speed and direction of a moving fluid throughout space, or the strength and direction of some force, such as the magnetic or gravitational force, as it changes from point to point. They can be compared to scalar fields, which simply associate a number or scalar to every point in space, such as the temperature in a room."

Also, my bogus-o-meter bounces when reading "a vector field [...] associates a vector to every point in [...] Euclidean space." I can sure imagine a vector field in non-Euclidian space... Thoughts? FelisSchrödingeris (talk) 00:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

 * You elided the "locally" part in your quote which really shows this is about manifolds and their tangent bundles. Non-Euclidean spaces such as spheres are manifolds too. Of course one can also have a vector field on only part of an Euclidean space. Further I think you have some good ideas. There are a few other articles which may already say what you want to though, such as vector (spatial). IMO there are too many different vector articles. --MarSch (talk) 16:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Coordinate transformations
There seems to be a mistake in the relation given in Section 1.1 for translating the expression of a vector field from one coordinate system to another. I think it should read:

$$V_y = \frac{\partial y}{\partial x} V$$.

This issue has been discussed in a Usenet thread. Could someone please verify this? Thanks. -- Pouya Tafti 20:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

 * The vector field is $$V^i \partial_{x^i} = V^i \frac{\partial_{y^j}}{\partial_{x^i}} \partial_{y^j}$$ so $${V_y}^j = V^i \frac{\partial_{y^j}}{\partial_{x^i}} $$ or indeed $$V_y = \frac{\partial y}{\partial x} V$$. The current transformation describes a covector field. I'll fix that. --MarSch 16:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the correction. I think  example 2 should be modified as well, i.e. we should have $$v_{\mathrm{Euclidean}}:x \mapsto 0.5$$.  Also, if we have $$\xi=2x$$, then $$x$$ changes by $$0.5$$ (and not $$2$$, as in the article) units when $$\xi$$ changes by $$1$$, right?  —Pouya D. Tafti 17:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, you are completely correct. Let me fix that :) --MarSch 17:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Ok fixed, rewritten to avoid factors of one half. --MarSch 18:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Vector fields as operators
This page needs an explanation of vector fields acting as operators on functions since this concept is used elsewhere e.g. Lie algebra - Gauge 04:02, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

If you think a page should be expanded on then be bold and do it yourself. There is no need to discuss it on the talk page. On the other hand if you are completely restructering a page a short discussion on the talk page might be apropriate to prevent an edit war. MathMartin 10:08, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This stuff is at Tangent_vector. The problem is that we have too many pages with unclear relations to eachother. --MarSch 17:31, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics/related articles
This article is part of a series of closely related articles for which I would like to clarify the interrelations. Please contribute your ideas at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics/related articles. --MarSch 14:05, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Question
The following paragraph is now in the article:

Difference between scalar and vector field
The difference between a scalar and a vector field is in how their coordinates respond to coordinate transformations. Coordinates of scalars, by definition, don't transform at all. See example for Euclidean and cylindrical coordinates:

 * 1$$(x, y) \mapsto x$$
 * 2$$(x, y) \mapsto x \boldsymbol{\partial}_x$$
 * 3$$(r, \theta) \mapsto r \cos \theta$$
 * 4$$(r, \theta) \mapsto r \cos \theta ( \frac{\partial r}{\partial x} \boldsymbol{\partial}_r + \frac{\partial \theta}{\partial x} \boldsymbol{\partial}_\theta )$$

 * (numbering added). Now, let us ignore formulas 3 and 4. It seems to me that formulas 1 and 2 illustrate the difference between scalar fields and vector fields in Euclidean coordinates.

 * But then I defintely don't know what a vector field is. Formula 1 looks to me like a scalar field. But formula 2 does not look to me as a vector field, rather as a differential operator. Am I misunderstanding something? Oleg Alexandrov 00:24, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Vectors are differential operators, hence the notation. $$\boldsymbol{\partial}_x$$ is thus the vector in the x direction, in this case of length 1. This is explained at Tangent_vector. Basically when taking coordinates of a vector you throw away the operator. Thus the vector and scalar have the same Euclidean components. But those things you've thrown away transform, thus when you transform a vector and throw away the derivative operators, you get something different then when you transform a scalar and this happens in vector calculus already. --MarSch 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I beg to contradict you. A vector is a quantity with n components, an element in R^n. Of course you can identify a vector with a directional derivative, but this is not what one means generally by vector.

Now I see your point. In your view, a vector field X is basically the differential operator:

 * $$ \nabla_X$$.

But you see, again, this identification of a vector field with the differential operator acting on the space of scalar functions and taking values in the space scalar functions, is not what people mean by a vector field (unless you are deep in differential geometry). And you did not explain this identification. It is no surprise that I did not understand the section you just added. Oleg Alexandrov 00:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * As you said, this is not the place to discuss that vectors are differential operators. I just used the notation coming from this, which is handy in remembering how vectors transform, since it is just the product rule. Vector are not members of Rn, they are members of TRn, its tangent space. These are usually identified because Rn has a preferred basis. But switching from these Euclidean coordinates to cylindrical coordinates changes that identification. This makes vectors different from scalars. I have tried explaining this also at scalar, perhaps you can have a look there also.
 * This difference occurs already in flat space, like in special relativity, which I think is the realm of vector calculus and not differential geometry. $$ \nabla_X$$ is the extension of the differential operator to all tensors. You need a connection to do this. Specifically, if X and Y are two vectors, it is not clear what $$ \nabla_X Y$$ is, You have some freedom to define it. This is just more complication that neither of us wants here. Perhaps you could try explaining why vectors transform as they do when regarded as a bunch of numbers. This might help me understand better your point of view. Of course you can simply define how they are supposed to transform, but that is rather unilluminating.--MarSch 11:19, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Hey, you are right. I remember the notation $$ \nabla_X Y$$ from a long while ago, but I forgot what it meant.

 * Now, about the section "Difference between scalar and vector field" which you inserted. Again, nobody will understand it, because the necessary context is missing. I believe it should not be in that article, or otherwise significantly expanded. Even better, a new article as I suggested, which is differential geometry from the very beginning. Oleg Alexandrov 15:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Okay, let me be blunt. If anything should be in this article it should be an explanation of what a scalar field is. My explanation concerns vector calculus already as I've said many times now, not only differential geometry. Why do you insist on ignoring this? That said, we can use different notation or even various notations and perhaps some picture about decomposing a vector into two different bases, which is simple enough I think. --MarSch 14:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * My main point is that you wrote things without providing the necessary background for the reader to understand what you are up to. Except for that, and merging the two articles, please feel free to do whatever you wish. Oleg Alexandrov 15:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Hmmm, rereading your next to last post I see that one of the option you favour is significantly expanding the section. I'm sorry for the confusion of my last post, although it does explain why moving to a pure diff geo article is not an option. I will try to expand the section so it is comprehensible. Please continue to give me feedback. --MarSch 17:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A scalar field is a tensor of rank (0,0). However, the function (x,y)-> x is not a tensor and thus not a scalar field. (It is not invariant under rotations, but a scalar field must be invariant, because a tensor of rank (0,0) is by definition invariant under rotations.)  — MFH: Talk 16:32, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * All tensors have an intrinsic geometric meaning which is independent of coordinates. Thus you _might_ say that these geometric objects are invariant under arbitrary coordinate transformations. What is not true is that any coordinate representation of a tensor is invariant. (x,y) -> x is a function and can thus be used to represent a scalar field. If you transform to new coordinates u:=x-y, v:=x+y, then the new representation would be (u,v) -> (u+v)/2, which is a different function than (x,y) -> x, but it represents the same scalar field in different coordinates. There is no problem. --MarSch 12:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

This is a terrible way to explain "the" difference between vector fields and scalar fields. Okay, it is a diifference between them, but it is certainly not the essence of what makes them different; rather it is a consequence of that essential difference. The gist of their difference is that vectors and scalars have different meanings: a vector describes a direction in which a particle can move away from a location; a scalar is a number (or if you insist, a tuple of numbers) associated to a location.Daqu (talk) 05:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

 * It is a precise way to state THE difference and one sadly lacking from most physics education. Just because scalars and vectors can be used to model some physical properties of particles does not mean that this is THE fundamental way to view them. Indeed one might argue that they can be used to model these, precisely because of the way they behave under change of coordinates which is a result of their definition as mathematical objects. I've been arguing here mostly against the erroneous notion that a vector is a bunch of numbers and a scalar is one number and your explanation does nothing to contradict that. Anyway, I already mentioned "intrinsic geometric meaning" and you can use your examples to explain that, just don't forget to dispell the misconceptions that creates. --MarSch (talk) 09:43, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

 * My comment didn't include any "explanation". Forget particles. As you may know, mathematically, a vector field is a section of the tangent bundle of a manifold.  And mathematically, a scalar field is a real- or complex-valued function on a manifold.

 * These definitions are independent of what physical meaning one may wish to assign to the points of the manifold.

 * And as you may know: With or without any physical meaning assigned, a section of the tangent bundle of a manifold is a continuous choice of tangent vector at each point of the manifold.  The set of tangent vectors at a given point of the manifold comprises all possible ways that a point can begin to move away from itself (or more formally, all possible derivatives at t = 0 of any curve on the manifold starting at the given point).

 * Once "vector field" and "scalar field" have been defined, then it is appropriate to discuss how to transform them, not before.Daqu (talk) 17:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Those are valid definitions, but it is also possible to define scalars and vectors without using bundles. --MarSch (talk) 09:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

 * To my mind, your last statement is free of content.

 * Sure, you can say (for example) "A vector field on a region U of Euclidean n-space, along with a coordinate system for U, is an assignment of an n-tuple of real numbers to each point of U, such that if the coordinate system for U changes [in a specified fashion] then the assignment of n-tuples changes [in a specified fashion]."

 * But if you say all this precisely, then you have just defined the tangent bundle of U and what a section of it means -- without mentioning that you've done so. The essential difference is that if you leave out the tangent bundle and what a section of it means, then you have gone to the trouble of defining it without telling anyone that you've done so.

 * Conceptually, it's vague to try to hang a concept on a bunch of coordinate systems, to each of which corresponds an assignment of n-tuples, such that the assignments are consistent [in a specified fashion]. It's far easier to define the idea of a tangent space of vectors at each point of U (or in generality, a manifold) and say that a vector field is a choice of vector, in the tangent space at x, to each point x of U (or the manifold).

 * Note: It's not the use of fancy terminology that is my point at all; it's the concept that all these various assignments of n-tuples to each point of U can be thought of as one thing: a choice, for each x in U, of a vector in the tangent space at x . . . rather than a bunch of assignments of n-tuples that depend on the choice of coordinates (among infinitely many possibilities).Daqu (talk) 23:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

 * MarSch is correct. A vector field can also be defined as a derivation on the algebra of smooth functions (i.e., scalar fields) on a manifold.  This makes no reference to bundles, or to coordinate systems except insofar as they are necessary to specify the smooth structure.   siℓℓy rabbit  (  talk  ) 00:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, Silly rabbit, you are right, of course. I was referring to the method of describing vector fields by their coordinate transformation properties, in response to MarSch's saying that that's what vector fields are.

 * (I would not use derivations, however to define vector fields in an introductory article.)Daqu (talk) 06:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

expanded difference between scalar and vector fields
Okay, a full explanation is now in place. Perhaps you really like it. I feel it is rather unencyclopedic at the moment, but maybe that is only because of the popular way I phrased it and you disagree. --MarSch 18:43, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Vectors and coordinates
I moved some stuff contributed by MarSch in scalar field to here, as it has more to do with vectors than with scalars.

From what I know, a vector does not change if you change coordinates, only its components change. This unlike what the section ===Example 2=== in this article seems to imply.

Also, a vector is not a differential operator. In some situations it is convenient to identify a vector with the partial derivative in the direction of the vector, but this identification is by no means universal in mathematics. And without this identification (which was not made explicit), the section ===Example 2=== from this article does not make sence. Any comments? Oleg Alexandrov 04:45, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * First of all. I think that the section makes a valid point, at least in the proper context: the components of a scalar field do not change under coordinate transformations, while the components of a vector field do change. I do not see where in the text a vector is identified with a partial derivative. To be honest, I do not understand where Oleg's confusion comes from. Oleg, do you agree with ===Example 1===, and if so, what is the different with the ===Example 2===?

 * The differential operator identification is what MarSch mentions way above on this talk page (which I moved from the talk page of scalar field).

 * I have problems with ===Example 1=== too, but ===Example 2=== is simpler and easier to make a point about.

 * My point still stays the same, that being that it was not explicit what is meant by a vector, and then these examples don't make sence. Any help rewriting this part and making it fit in the article? Oleg Alexandrov 16:53, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * However, while I agree that the section fits here better than in scalar field, I do question the placement of the section. In the previous parts of the article, a vector field is a function from (a subset of) Rn to Rn, that is, basically as a bunch of scalar fields. Then, the point of view suddenly shifts to the differential geometry, where vector fields are sections of the tangent bundle. MarSch's section seems to be based on the definition vector fields by how they behave under coordinate transformations (what I would call the physicist's definition).

 * Summarizing, I have no problems with the section, save that it could probably be explained better, but I think we should first explain the magic incantation "vector fields are sections of the tangent bundle". -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 12:52, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * the view doesn't change to differential geometry, because all of this is valid and very relevant for Euclidean space itself. It isn't 100% rigorous, because a vector is an arrow on Euclidean space and this is never defined. Intuitively it is very clear however what a vector is. If you want rigor you define a vector as a bunch of coordinates that transform in the way derived in my examples (the physicists' def as jitse calls it). There is no need for the tangent bundle approach here nor for the interpretation of vectors as differential operators. Although that is a natural isomorphism so it is pretty universal if you ask me. Oleg, I'm troubled by the fact that you still have (big) problems with these sections, because I thought they were very clear. Perhaps you have never been taught this stuff and have trouble believing it, but otherwise please start from the beginning and criticize every single letter I wrote. Perhaps I should say what I mean by a vector, I see I've glossed over this, so perhaps you assumed I was using the differential operator def. Yes I think this is it. I will try to implement this. --MarSch 19:44, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * This sentence was supposed to explain one of the vector fields I define :"Thus we have a scalar field which has the value 1 everywhere and a vector field which attaches a vector in the r-direction with length 1 to each point." Is this unclear? --MarSch 19:48, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * You are very right that I don't know this material (this makes me a good guinea pig in whether this text is understandable, don't you think so? :)

 * No, a vector is not just an arrow. A vector is very precisely defined as an element of the Euclidean space Rn.

 * So, you, Jitse and me agree that what is missing is what you mean by a vector, because what you mean by that is definitely not what is meant usually, or what is meant everywhere else in this article. So, good luck working on that. :)

 * And one more request. The material you put feels a bit out of place in this page. Some integration would be good, so that the article reads as one. Thanks a lot, Oleg Alexandrov 22:31, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, if you say this text is not understandable, then few of the intended audience will understand it. What I hoped my examples would explain is _why_ vector fields are not just a bunch of functions. Therefore I have to use an intuitive notion of vector field and not a rigorous definition. I am trying to explain what some properties of vector fields are, which a rigorous definition of a vector field ought to satisfy. I am trying to _justify_ a rigorous definition. Therefore I cannot start by giving a rigorous definition of a vector field. Thus in my explanation I am talking about the intuitive concept of a vector or arrow field. What you picture in your mind or would draw in a picture.
 * Let's for a moment imagine you are standing on a big flat plane. If I give you a vector ( an arrow pointing from your feet into some direction ) and then ask you to walk in the direction of the vector, that would be something you could do. Now instead of giving you a vector I give you an element of R^2 ( a vector in the vector space R^2), could you walk in the direction of the vector? Not if I don't first tell you how the directions in R^2 correspond to the directions in the plane you are standing on.
 * Allright, now you are standing in the topological space R^2 itself. I give you an element of R^2. This is where I am going to try to teach you something. You still don't know how to walk in the direction of that "vector". "Why the hell not? Just watch me", you say ;) . The problem is that you have to make an extra (obvious?) assumption which you didn't even realize you made. This assumption is how you get from coordinates to a (tangent) vector. Let me (try to) explain. Suppose you are standing at the point (3, 4) and I give you the coordinates (1, 0). Then "obviously" I want you to walk towards (4, 4). But why? Basically what you do is turn the point (1, 0) into a vector from (0, 0) to (1, 0) and then transport that vector from (0, 0) to (3, 4), so you know which way to walk. But perhaps I meant for you to turn (1, 0) into the vector (of length one) pointing from the origin in the direction of (3, 4) where you are standing. Then transport this vector to your feet and follow it. Perhaps I meant for you to walk towards (1, 0). How would you know? What you have to understand is that R^2 is just a set of points. We can make an assumption of how to turn it into a vector space, by identifying points with vectors from (0, 0) to that point. But if we want to have a vector at every point of R^2 ( a vector field) then we need a vectorspace stucture for each point with that point as the origin. When you transport a vector from (0, 0) to another point, you make an assumption. You choose an isomorphism between these vectorspaces. Or equivalently you have chosen isomorphisms from R^2 to each of those vectorspace structures. The difference between Euclidean coordinates and spherical coordinates is in which isomorphisms I choose. The difficulty is that the Euclidean choice seems so obvious or indeed the only possible choice. Just try to imagine that you know only spherical coordinates and nothing about Euclidean coordinates. Wouldn't you still describe vectors by a bunch of numbers? What would (1, 0) mean as a vector field?
 * My example of standing in R^2 itself may be debatable, but maybe it does provoke you to some ponderings. Basically if we want to describe a the plane and vectorfields on it, we use R^2 to describe the plane and all of its tangent vector space structures. I think this is the most useful way to think about it. When you think these things are all the same, you are using Euclidean coordinates. --MarSch 12:40, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Please correct me if I misunderstand something. So, the most elementary definition of a 2d vector is the arrow pointing from (0,0) to a point P. All of us know that, and there is no disagreement of this matter altogether.Oleg Alexandrov 21:44, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I look at R^2 as an affine space. If you give me two points then I can draw an arrow from one to the other and that is a vector. Vectors starting at (0, 0) are a special case of this. --MarSch 28 June 2005 11:47 (UTC)

So, what you are saying is that by default R^2 is just a manifold. You can't talk about vectors till you are given an origin, or otherwise a coordinate system. Did I understand you correctly? Oleg Alexandrov 21:44, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * No, this is not what I am saying. You can talk about vectors as going from one point to another. Only if you want to use points of R^2 to represent vectors, than you have to say what isomorphism you are using, implicitly or explicitly. --MarSch 28 June 2005 11:47 (UTC)

Vector and coordinates (more)
OF COURSE a vector field is not the same as a bunch of scalar fields! If a manifold M has dimension n, then the tangent space to M is not isomorphic to the manifold
 * $$M\times \mathbb{R}^n$$

even if both of them have dimension 2n.

But OF COURSE that is not clear from the section ==Difference between vector fields and scalar fields== because MarSch never bothered to say that a vector field no longer goes from R^n to R^n, but rather, from R^n to its tangent space. Oleg Alexandrov 28 June 2005 15:56 (UTC)

 * No, this is not what I am talking about. That is the domain of differential geometry. In vector calculus the tangent bundle _is_ a product space. It is beside the point--MarSch 28 June 2005 17:21 (UTC)

 * Good point. Thank you for your patience so far. I belive I am gradually getting it. Oleg Alexandrov 29 June 2005 05:03 (UTC)

 * No problem. How about those suggestions for improvement? ;) --MarSch 29 June 2005 12:50 (UTC)

There are 3 types of lines that can be made from vector fields
streaklines, fieldlines and pathlines. They seem all the same to me. Can anyone explain their difference? --MarSch 12:48, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Turbines
I think this should be included in the article, though I'm not knowledgeable enough to do so. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Turbine.html Cako 01:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Lead image
Recently, a rather awful image was added to the lead of this article, that is totally irrelevant for the subject. I reverted this edit. Subsequently, my edit in turn was reverted by the same editor who added the image, with the edit summary:
 * Rv for consistency - this image is included in related articles so is relevant here

Now, an editor who just added this article to three different articles is now edit warring to include it in two of them to ensure "consistency"? This seems to be very disingenuous reasoning. I vote to remove the image in question from the articles vector field and scalar field (I will leave it in tensor field). Are there any objections, besides the one already offered by the editor who is lobbying for inclusion of the image? I have posted to WT:WPM to garner further input. Sławomir Biały (talk) 20:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * My edits - since reversed - were in good faith, and consistency was the sole motive. Your accusation of disingenuousness is absolutely misplaced and I demand you retract that statement. JohnArmagh (talk) 06:00, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * My mistake: edit warring on the pretense of ensuring consistency with other articles—a consistency which did not actually exist until you decided so.  Sławomir Biały  (talk) 21:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I had no ulterior motive and stood to gain nothing from my edits. So I repeat, my edits were in good faith - if you won't or cannot accept that then I hope you are never called for jury service. JohnArmagh (talk) 09:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, see your edit summary above: "Rv for consistency - this image is included in related articles so is relevant here." It was included in related articles only because you added it to the related articles, not because the image was already there based on some existing consensus (the only article where it already existed was Tensor field—the proper place for such an image).  Your stated reason was therefore, in my opinion, intentionally deceptive.  So, let's just hope that you're never called for testimony: you might perjure yourself and not even realize it.  Sławomir Biały  (talk) 09:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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Difference between Computer Science and Information Technology
How is School:Information Technology different from School:Computer Science? --JWSchmidt 14:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * A definition of Computer Science and a definition of I.T. are hard to come by though their are significant diffrences by some common definitions. For one Computer Sceince tends to deal with more theoretical information while IT deals with working with computers, in some careers such as listed on the main school page.  For more infomation see:

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The result was   keep. Passes WP:ACADEMIC #1; can be reworked to be less promotional. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Keith Kahn-Harris

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Appears to fail WP:ACADEMIC. Previously speedy-deleted, page created by a possible sock-puppet of an indef-blocked promotional account. MikeWazowski (talk) 15:40, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet any of the criteria of WP:ACADEMIC.  NtheP (talk) 15:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete I had initially nominated the page for deletion via WP:PROD with the same rationale as above. TeaganK (talk) 16:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: the latest contributor is indeed blocked as a sock; the current article is just different enough for me to not delete it as a recreation, though YMMV, passing admin. Drmies (talk) 23:35, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:35, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Do Not Delete This is a genuine and accurate article about the most important demographer in the Jewish community in Britain. Kahn-Harris is well known and highly respected in his field and I do not understand why this has been marked for deletion. I have quoted him in my own publications and he is often noted in secondary sources. 11 July, 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greystar (talk • contribs) 20:31, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment This article is part of a number of edits all connected to Hodder (the publishers) involving one account that I blocked and the sock blocked by Drmies. Going through the references here, the first is a profile (not a reliable sources), and the second is a name in a list; the third doesn't mention the subject; the fourth is be the subject, and cannot establish notability; the fifth, I regard as a possible source for notability - but only just (and others may disagree); the sixth and seventh are a profile, and so is the seventh. The list looks impressive, but contains only one of what I would consider a possible reliable source - which refers to a book not discussed in the article - possibly because it is published by Berg rather than Hodder. I notice that the publisher is only named in the list here for one book. I may be cynical - what the heck, I am cynical. I would note, by the way, that the enthusiastic post above is (to my surprise) not by an SPA but is by an editor who first edited in 2007 and has made few but apparently sound edits which do not seem to be connected to Hodder. (My apologies for suspecting the worst...) Peridon (talk) 18:09, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I am Keith Kahn-Harris. I did not write this page but I have been made aware of the deletion discussion. I could of course edit the entry to respond to Peridon's (reasonable) critique. However, I understand that it is not my role to do this! My status as an academic and writer is sufficient to meet Wikipedia standards for inclusion, but it's difficult for me to prove this! Please look at my website kahn-harris.org for more info. Could someone let me know what I can do to ensure that the entry for me is unmarked for deletion. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 10:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Keith Kahn-Harris is a reputable scholar, who has authored several books and research reports, has co-written the only contemporary sociological study of British Jewry, is a regular media commentator on his areas of specialism (popular music and the Jewish community), writes regularly for periodicals such as The Guardian, Jewish Chronicle, Jewish Quarterly and New Statesman. So, not the most notable of academics, but sufficiently for a Wikipedia article.BobFromBrockley (talk) 12:04, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: Further to my statement, have looked again at WP:ACADEMIC. The subject meets a couple of the criteria, of which only one is needed.1. The person's research has made significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. The article needs citations to show this better, but Kahn-Harris has made significant impact on sociology of Jewishness and popular music studies. There are plenty of book reviews that could show this in scholarly journals, as I saw from glancing at Google Scholar. So, citations needed rather than AFD. 7. The person has made substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity. KKH's media profile shows this. When I have time, am happy to do some research to add citations. BobFromBrockley (talk) 12:04, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Editing an article about one's self is not forbidden, so long as the editing doesn't introduce promotional material, or remove referenced material that the subject doesn't like. There is no problem about bringing better references to the table here - believe me, they are needed for a clear showing of notability. No matter how many people come here and shower praises on the subject, if there are no references in reliable independent sources WP:RS that back this fulsome praise up then their time is wasted. Don't just say he's the best thing since the Exodus from Egypt - give us evidence. I am also going to suggest that either the publishers of all three listed books be named, or the one that is should have that name removed. This is in the interest of avoiding an appearance of advertising by that publisher. Peridon (talk) 19:58, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:PROF criterion #1 (significant impact in scholarly discipline, broadly construed). Most widely held book in libraries (co-edited), After subculture: Critical studies in contemporary youth culture, currently in more than 320 libraries worldwide according to WorldCat. This book has over 190 citations on GS. I wonder if COI is really at play here; this book was no even listed in the article until I edited it a few minutes ago. Also has other books of solid impact.--Eric Yurken (talk) 19:48, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The author of the article seemed rather keen on promoting Hodder publications and authors (and a small number of others). There's no suggestion (on my part at least) that the subject of the article has been involved in the creation of the article. Peridon (talk) 14:20, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep per Eric Yurken above. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:56, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


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Ádám Szabó (singer)

Ádám Szabó (born 22 June 1992, Budapest) is a Hungarian singer, musician, and accordionist. He achieved fifth place in the fourth season of X-Faktor, Hungary's version of X-Factor.

Personal life and career
Ádám Szabó was born on 22 June 1992 in Budapest, but grew up in the town of Érd. At the age of 5, he became interested in the accordion. He has participated in a number of Hungarian and international competitions. In 2011, he came as runner-up in the RTL Klub Got Talent-like competition "Csillag születik". Ádám finished secondary school and studied at the Franz Liszt Academy of Music in Budapest. In 2013, Ádám participated in the fourth season of X-Faktor and achieved fifth place. In March 2014, he released the song 'Nem kell többé félj'. Since 2015, he has been a part of the band yesyes.

A Dal
In 2013, Szabó competed in the 2013 edition of A Dal, the national selection of the Hungarian entry for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013. He participated in the second heat with the song Hadd legyen más, and was eliminated in his respective heat.

In December 2014, it was revealed that Szabó would attempt again to win the 2015 edition of A Dal, with the song Give Me Your Love. On 31 January 2015, his song passed through the second heat, scoring the highest number of points at 46. On 14 February, he also passed through the first semi-final, going onto the final, gaining 47 points, tying with fellow contestant Boggie for the highest set of points. In the final, he received 28 points from the judges, the highest number of points in the final, but Boggie was chosen by televote to represent Hungary in the Eurovision Song Contest 2015.

Szabó participated again in A Dal, this time in the 2017 edition, with the song Together. He progressed to the semi-finals and was eliminated.

yesyes, a band that he is a part of, competed in A Dal 2018, with the song I Let You Run Away, and in A Dal 2019, with the song Incomplete.

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Wangjiawan station (Wuhan Metro)

Wangjiawan Station is a transfer station on Line 3 and Line 4 of the Wuhan Metro. It entered revenue service on December 28, 2014. It is in Hanyang District.

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German/Level III/Markus Studiert

Lektion Eins für Fortgeschrittene

Geschichte 1-3 ~ Markus studiert

 * Markus ist in der Universität. Er trinkt dort einen Kaffee und isst ein Brötchen. Danach geht er in die Bibliothek. Er sucht ein Buch über Biochemie. Er holt das Buch aus dem Regal und setzt sich an einen Tisch. Nach einer Stunde geht er in den Hof und raucht eine Zigarette. Danach geht er an den Tisch zurück. Er denkt: "Wenigstens eine Stunde..." und stellt das Buch wieder in das Regal.

This short story (Geschichte) is told in the 3rd person (see Grammatik 1-3). Note how this is apparent from both the pronoun (Er or "he") and verb forms.

Vokabeln 1-3
die Bibliothek          library die Biochemie           biochemistry das Brötchen            roll, biscuit das Buch                book der Fortgeschrittene    advancer die Fortgeschrittenen advancers (pl.) die Geschichte          story der Hof                 courtyard; also court der Kaffee              coffee die Stunde              hour der Tisch               table das Regal               shelf die Zigarette           cigarette

denken                  think                     (Er denkt = He thinks) essen                   eat                       (Er isst = He eats) holen                   fetch, get                (Er holt = He gets/fetches) rauchen                 smoke (a cigarette)       (Er raucht = He smokes) sich setzen             sit (oneself) down        (Er setzt sich = He sits) stellen                 place                     (Er stellt = He places) suchen                  seek, search for          (Er sucht = He looks for) trinken                 drink                     (Er trinkt = He drinks)

aus                     out danach                  afterwards dort                    there in                      in nach                     after über                    about wenigstens              at least, at any rate wieder                  again
 * Pronunciation Guide >>

Grammatik 1-3 ~ Personal Pronouns
As in English, personal pronouns exist in three grammatical persons, each with singular and plural number. In Gespräch 1-1 and 1-2, you see only the singular versions. The table here gives also the plural (nominative case only):

Grammatik 1-3 ~ Incomplete Sentences
What are we to make of short, incomplete sentences such as that in Gespräch 1-1: 'Und dir?'? This translates as: 'And for you?'. In English and German it is not always necessary to express every part of a sentence, especially in conversation where the words left out are easily understood by both or all parties. Walk up to a stranger and say 'And you?' and a possible response is a hostile 'Out of my face, fool'. But in the conversation between Heinrich and Karl, Heinrich knows that Karl is really meaning: Und wie geht es dir?, with that part underlined left out of the conversational statement. Note especially that the pronoun 'you' retains its case—its relation to the missing verb from the implied sentence—distinctive in German (that is, dir instead of du) but not so in English (the form "you" covers both cases).

Übersetzung 1-2
Although these sentences involve many grammatical concepts that have not been covered, each can be written in German by referring to the example sentences and vocabularies in Lessons 1 and 1A. Using a piece of paper and pencil, translate each of these sentences into German:
 * 1) Hello Mark! Do you have a cigarette?
 * 2) Are you studying German?
 * 3) Catherine drinks coffee at a table.
 * 4) The students study at the library.
 * 5) He eats cheese and sausage in the courtyard.
 * 6) She looks for a book about biology.
 * 7) Mark goes back to the University.
 * 8) Mark removes the book from the shelf and places it on the table.

 * Antworten >

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Talk:Applesoft BASIC

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In the main article, a reference to "single-precision" floating point is made, combined with an 8 bit exponent.

What is meant by this?

Does it mean that the mantissa is 8 bits long, and the exponent is another 8 bits long?

I'd guess that the mantissa is normalized (with the series of bits shifted to the left, once for each time the exponent is diminished by one, until the leftmost bit is a '1' instead of a '0') but the main article leaves this completely to the imagination of the reader. Is there any way the main article could be straightened out, and the ambiguity resolved?

Single precision floating point numbers are usually 32 bit while double precision are 64 bit. Unlike some other 6502 Microsoft written BASIC interpreters (eg OSI BASIC which uses 32 bit fp numbers), Applesoft uses 40 bit floating point numbers - 8 bit exponent, 1 bit sign and 31 bit mantissa (with implied leading '1' bit). I will have a look at the main page and see if I can improve it. --TheGiantHogweed 09:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The version of Applesoft found in the Apple IIc does add support for double-lores graphics but has a bug in the SCRN function when used in double-lores mode - see page 43 of Open Apple Volume 1, June 1985. --TheGiantHogweed 09:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I was disappointed by the lack of dates in the article.

What?

 * "Machine-language routines could be attached to the ampersand and USR hooks in the computer's memory and call Applesoft ROM code to retrieve the values of parameters that followed them."

This is pretty nonsensical could someone clean it up? --<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 05:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It makes perfect sense if you already know what it means and remember how to do it:) Okay, so I rewrote that paragraph. Let me know if it's better and what if any is still unclear. DMacks (talk) 16:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Ok but if all you mean when you say "extending" is the ability to transfer control to machine-language you can use CALL for that as well as & and USR. And you can pass and retrieve data with POKE and PEEK. Why did you leave them out? Are you confusing modifying the interpreter itself (hooking) with a simple machine-language subroutine or what is it I'm missing? --<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 18:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * They make it possible to avoid the multi-step technique of POKE input-data, CALL routine, PEEK results, allowing the process to be carried out in a single step. And, to clarify: & and USR work with "hooks" -- locations that store the addresses to be called when they (& or USR) are invoked. As I wrote (since the earlier question) in the article, "&" is indeed just a shorthand for CALL. Unlike PEEK and POKE, though, "&" USR and CALL all execute specified machine language ROUTINES. Further, USR is a FUNCTION that can appear within numerical (or even string) expressions/formulas. It returns a value that is integrated into the expression calculation. The syntax of USR includes one numerical argument passed to the machine-routine. The value of the argument is stored in the "floating-point accumulator" (FAC) at zero-page locations $9D to $A2. This value can be converted to a (one- or) two-byte integer by having the machine-routine call (JSR) an Applesoft ROM routine; for example, JSR E752 converts it into a two-byte integer stored in locations $50-$51, as well as in the 6502 registers A (high byte) and Y (low byte). Then, for further example, the machine-routine could then calculate the factorial of the argument, and store the result back in the FAC, where, upon exiting via RTS, the value there would be the value returned by USR in the expression. Thus, USR(7) would return 5040, and the statement X = USR(7) * 3 would store 15120 in X.
 * But USR could be further "extended" with additional Applesoft ROM calls. Suppose you didn't want merely to calculate a factorial; suppose you wanted to compute "combinations", which is based on two arguments. With the aforementioned JSR E752, you could then push the integer value (from A and Y) onto the stack: PHA TYA PHA, and then call Applesoft ROM to read a second argument to USR, by JSR DD67, followed by JSR DEB8 to look for ")" (for workable, albeit overall rather odd, expression syntax), and JSR E752 again to convert the NEW argument to integer in $50-$51, and PLA TAY PLA to pop the FIRST argument off the stack, back into registers A and Y. Thus, with the first argument in A and Y, and the second in $50-$51, you could calculate "combinations" for them, leaving the result in FAC, to be returned as the value of USR. So USR(12)5) could return 792, and the statement X = USR(12)5) / USR(9)2) would store 22 in X. Of course, these examples all used plain numbers as arguments, but variables or complex expressions could also be used. At any rate, using the old POKE-CALL-PEEK method, with a routine stored at 768 (a common location to store small routines), carrying out the last example would've required code something like this:
 * POKE 6,12
 * POKE 7,5
 * CALL 768
 * X = PEEK(9) * 256 + PEEK(8)
 * POKE 6,9
 * POKE 7,2
 * CALL 768
 * X = X / (PEEK(9) * 256 + PEEK(8))
 * Similarly, although CALL and & do not return values, they could be programmed to take arguments; for example, the routine for a CALL could JSR to the Applesoft routine to check for a comma (DEBE) after the CALL address, and then receive a two-byte integer argument with JSR DD67 and JSR E752; so a routine stored at 768, that takes one argument, could be invoked by CALL 768,Y * 3 - K
 * <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 23:58, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Slow or fast, it's all relative
The main page of this article has references deprecating the speed of Applesoft BASIC. Is that sort of thing appropriate in Wikipedia?

Regardless if you think it is slow or fast, there are ways of describing its performance objectively. In the early 1980s, there was a magazine or periodical called Computer Shopper that published comparisons of the various species of BASIC. This article could be improved if you cited the page and issue where someone came to the conclusion it was "slow" (or "fast" or whatever it was). Dexter Nextnumber (talk) 02:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Or you could simply provide example code for a benchmark that can be run on real systems or emulators limited to original speed. Actually, the speed difference is relative, so even fast(unlimited) emulators could be used.  I'll leave this as homework for all the would-be editors who want to specify a real ratio.
 * For j = 0 to 10000: For i = 0 to 10000: Next i: Print j: Next j
 * A slightly more realistic benchmark would do something like this: k=0: For j = 0 to 10000: For i = 0 to 20000: k=k+i-j: k=k-i+j: Next i: Print j: Next j
 * <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 17:16, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Preserving Trivia points
If no one comes forward to provide citations for these "Trivia points" that an editor removed, I don't want them to become "buried" over time, so I'm putting a copy of them here for handy reference, as I believe they are useful:

 * Applesoft's garbage collector was notoriously slow (O(n²)). If a program had a large number of string variables, garbage collection, which occurred when the interpreter ran out of memory for a new string allocation, could seemingly lock up the computer for several minutes. Since users could not know when the computer was running low on string memory, these pauses seemed random and inexplicable. Though third parties provided some improvements, Apple did not truly fix the problem until ProDOS, which included a new garbage collector that did the same job in seconds as part of BASIC.SYSTEM.
 * Neither Apple nor Microsoft ever made source code for Applesoft BASIC available. However, Glen Bredon included a program with his Merlin assembler that would generate a commented copy of the disassembled machine language sources for the Applesoft interpreter. To avoid violating copyright, the source disassembler was encrypted using the compiled Applesoft program code, which was stored on the computer's ROMs.  Thus, a person needed to have a functioning ROM copy of Applesoft in order to use the disassembler to see the source code.
 * Due to Applesoft BASIC's slow performance, BASIC compilers were much sought-after tools for BASIC programmers. The first, Microsoft's The AppleSoft Compiler (TASC), was actually written in Applesoft and then used to compile itself. A later product, the Einstein Compiler, was somewhat more sophisticated and offered better performance both in compilation and in execution. The last major BASIC compiler was the Beagle Compiler, written by Alan Bird and published by Beagle Bros: it integrated closely with ProDOS (the current Apple II OS at the time of its release), compiled programs in seconds rather than minutes, and achieved superior code execution performance by optimizing integer math and pre-computing addresses of GOTO targets, among other tricks. Unlike previous compilers, the Beagle Compiler did not truly compile BASIC programs to machine code, but rather converted them to a highly optimized bytecode that was interpreted by a runtime module, much like the UCSD p-System.

Help Me Please!
I REALLY want to learn Applesoft BASIC programing, but I'm not old enough to take a course on it, and I can't find anything online that will teach me much more than the hello world program.--DianaFowl (talk) 21:09, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. Looking around for some possible sources for this article, I have come across these, which may also help you, as of 2011:
 * Apple2Online's Applesoft section has a few reference guides and tutorials.
 * The CSA2 FAQ has some questions and tips about Applesoft.
 * Note that, when looking at information, "Apple II Basic" often refers to Integer BASIC, which is a bit older than Applesoft. Integer BASIC (INT) is the one that came stock on the first Apple II; Applesoft (FP) is the one that came stock on all the other Apple II computers (Apple II Plus and later).  Also, Applesoft works under both Apple DOS 3.3 and ProDOS; a few of the disk commands are different depending on which one of those you're using. --Closeapple (talk) 03:57, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Tense in article
Per WP:TENSE, the tense in this article as a technological historical item should be in the past tense (given that there is no new equipment that features it). An edit-warring IP editor <IP_ADDRESS> is repeatedly restoring the text to the present tense having first changed it on the 14th November (currently at 6RR though not in 24 hours, but it is still a slow motion edit war).

This editor is attempting to use the justification that [a few] other such articles are fully or partly in the present tense. I do not believe that another article in the wrong tense is justification for going against the MOS. The editor cites Phonograph cylinder and Wire recording as his justification. Phonograph cylinder is written in the past tense apart from one present tense in the lede, "Phonograph cylinders are the earliest commercial medium for recording and reproducing sound". Present tense would be acceptable for that statement as Phonograph cylinders [still] are the earliest commercial medium for recording and reproducing sound. Past tense here would imply that an earlier medium had been uncovered. As for Wire Recording, it is mostly in the past tense, but there are parts in the present. The article does require copy editing to make the tense consistent throughout (and past tense as it is historical, there being no wire recorders made today.

In addition, it seems to me that this editor has a long history of disruptive editing and edit warring elsewhere. I also not that this editor lacks any consistency because although this editor is insisting that this article be put into the present tense, I note that the same editor has also changed the similarly historical article on Droid 4 from the present tense to the past tense. – Live Rail    < Talk >  17:02, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

If I'm supposedly "edit-warring" by matching an article to my good-faith interpretation of the rule, then YOU are also edit-warring by reverting my editions back, according to what you think is your "good-faith" interpretation of the rule. So he who edits with one supposed "warrior" is also a warrior. He who edits in that case and reports that supposed "warrior" is also reporting himself. If you were correcting vandalism, then this would not be the case. But since this is not vandalism, then your editions are just as much warring as you think mine are.

Good-faith editions are not "disruptive editing," so you lied about that.

The two examples I gave aren't the only ones that were written in present-tense without my help. Try looking at some other articles, such as some of the Commodore computer articles that were already present-tense before I came along (as if those writings count but mine "don't" for some unknown reason). I'll try to think of some other discontinued things that were written that way without my help and then bring them here.

Oh, you so badly want this article written in past-tense, but then you complain when I try to conform a different article of a discontinued model to *fit* your and Die's interpretations of the rule just to go along with what you guys are trying to enforce? Geesh, make up your mind!

<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 17:39, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: The above IP address editor was subsequently blocked for disruptive editing and edit warring of his continued changes to the tense of articles. –  Live Rail    < Talk >  16:25, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Atomic strings - misleading sentence
"Atomic strings: A string is no longer an array of characters (as in Integer BASIC and C); it is instead a garbage-collected object (as in Scheme and Java). This allows for string arrays; DIM A$(10) resulted in a vector of eleven string variables numbered 0–10." The second sentence is mostly irrelevant and misleading, as C also allows arrays of finite-length 'strings' (called 'char arrays'. This would be 2-dimensional with one being the length and the other being how many of that finite-length object it could hold.  The writer seems to be having confusion over the difference between DIMension and variable-length strings.  These 2 features both came into play when moving to a newer BASIC.  <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 19:44, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * They weren't my sentences, but an explanation of strings in Integer BASIC may be helpful (or not, but I'll give it a shot). In Integer BASIC, string variables (simple variables, not arrays) required a DIM statement to declare how many characters they could hold. DIM B$(30) creates the single string variable B$ that can hold up to 30 characters. There could not be arrays of string variables in Integer BASIC. Applesoft differed from this in that the same statement in Applesoft would create an array B$ of string variables, numbered 0 to 30. I don't know if this really helps, but it couldn't hurt. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 11:09, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Syntax highlighting
The two snippets of Applesoft BASIC code in the article are nicely formatted and look great, and it seems like the standard "basic" language definition in SyntaxHighlight works quite well. I was just drafting a slightly longer passage of code for possible inclusion, and the only thing I noticed that it wasn't handling properly was  statements. Does anyone know of any other challenges with using the standard "basic" language as a stand-in for true Applesoft BASIC?

Also, I see Pygments says that "if a lexer for your favorite language is missing in the Pygments package, you can easily write your own and extend Pygments." Might someone be willing/able to craft a variant lexer for Applesoft BASIC? (It seems like the standard "basic" is already quite close.) If not, I'm certainly willing to see what I can figure it out, though I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with the process. Thanks! ╠╣uw [ talk ] 15:02, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

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Krasnodubrovsky

Krasnodubrovsky (Краснодубровский) is a rural locality (a settlement) in Kirovsky Selsoviet, Aleysky District, Altai Krai, Russia. The population was 158 as of 2013. There are 6 streets.

Geography
Krasnodubrovsky is located 32 km north of Aleysk (the district's administrative centre) by road. Kirovskoye is the nearest rural locality.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalabhavan Road

The result was   delete. consensus to delete following relisting. The Bushranger One ping only 23:43, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Kalabhavan Road

 * – ( View AfD View log  •  Stats )

Quite simply, fails WP:GNG. Tens of thousands of GSearch hits for directories such as Yellow Pages but nothing that discusses the place as a place. Sitush (talk) 12:20, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete – No coverage in any reliable source. undefined — Bill william compton  Talk   13:46, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  Anbu121  ( talk me ) 15:45, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:40, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:04, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete. A look at Google Maps shows that the road in question is a short North-South connection and not any main street in any way. From looking at the map, the geographical content of the article is generally accurate but there is nothing there to say why this road is more notable than any other road. In WP:NTSR terms, this qualifies as a "Secondary roads in a city or suburb", which are generally not notable. Sjakkalle (Check!)  20:33, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as completely unreferenced. Stuartyeates (talk) 00:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: Why not redirect? After all they are cheap. This article can be redirected to Kochin. (I am gonna do that on almost all AfDs now.) §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 13:35, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That only works if this is the only 'Kalabhavan Road' globally, which seems unlikely. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:25, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I am all for redirects when the subject of the redirect is covered in the target article, but they are confusing otherwise. (A reader would think "OK, I looked up 'Kalabhavan Road', but Wikipedia sent me to an article that makes no mention of it!") A city article will generally not cover each and every street and road in the city, and I see no reason why Kalabhavan Road would be an exception. Sjakkalle (Check!)  19:04, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


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trichloroethane

Noun

 * 1)  Either of two isomeric halogenated hydrocarbons, CH3-CCl3 or CH2Cl-CHCl2, that are used in several industrial applications, especially as solvents
 * 2)  Any of many derivatives of these compounds

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Majdabad

Majdabad or Majd Abad, also rendered as Mujdabad, may refer to various places in Iran:
 * Majdabad, Marvdasht, Fars Province
 * Majdabad, Isfahan
 * Majdabad-e Kohneh, Markazi Province
 * Majdabad-e Now, Markazi Province
 * Majdabad, Razavi Khorasan
 * Majdabad Rural District, in Fars Province

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paleoceanographer

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 * 1) A scholar or researcher of paleoceanography, the study of the development of the oceans in the geologic past.

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User:Malcolmxl5/Roy Hackett

Roy Hackett (1928–2022) was a British civil rights activist and an organiser of the Bristol Bus Boycott of 1963.

Hackett was born in Jamaica in 1928 and grew up in Trench Town, a neighbourhood of Kingston. Working as an insurance broker, he was unable to feed himself, and in 1952, sailed to the U.K., encouraged, he said, by a speech given by Enoch Powell in Kingston, Jamaica, that encouraged Jamaican people to migrate to Britain. He arrived in Liverpool and lived in London and Wolverhampton before settling in Bristol in 1956.

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förstånd

Etymology
From, like German.

Noun

 * 1) mental faculties, (good) sense; reason, sense, understanding

Usage notes
Can be thought of as understanding in a fairly abstract sense that also includes the ability to understand what is reasonable.

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GCSE Science/Advanced static electricity topics

GCSE Science/Electricity

Before reading this module check to see if you need to. If you intend to take the foundation paper, you may find that you do not need to do the work on this page. If in doubt check with your teacher.

Where charge concentrates
When an object is charged up with electrons, the electrons try to spread out over the object to be as far apart as possible. This means they go to the surface rather than spread throughout. On a metal object the material of which the object is made shields the electrons from one another. They do not ‘’see’’ the electrons round the back. This means that highly curved objects can hold more electrons than flat objects. For a complicated shape, the electrons tend to congregate on the more highly curved areas, and to desert the flatter areas.

Inducing charge separation on neutral objects
Consider a crystal of gold for example. {This argument works for all materials}. Normally the atoms are perfectly spherical, and completely neutral.

Q1) Why are the atoms neutral?

Remember that neutral atoms contain positive charges in the nucleus and negative electrons orbiting in their shell. Normally the center of the positive charges and the center of the negative electrons is in the same place: the exact center of the atom. If we bring up a charged object to them however, something important happens. Look at the diagram on the right.

Q2) What would happen if we brought up a positively charged rod?

There is always an attractive force between the rod and the crystal no matter what the charge on the rod.

To see why this is so, we need to know one more thing about electrostatics. The force of repulsion or attraction falls off with distance. In fact, rather like gravity it falls off as the square of the distance. This means if you go to twice the distance the force becomes only a quarter as much. If you go three times the distance it becomes only one ninth as great and so on. Now look at the diagram again. The negative charges in the atoms are repelled by the rod, the positive ones are attracted, but the positive charges are closer, so overall there is a force of attraction.

Q3) Repeat the above argument with a positively charged rod to convince yourself that there is still an attractive force.

Lightning
Lightning is basically a great big spark. In a thunderstorm, separation of charge occurs in big rain clouds. No one is really sure of how this occurs, although it appears to be caused by ice crystals rubbing together and becoming charged. but what is known is that storm clouds have a negative bottom and a positive top. The bottom of the cloud is nearer to the ground so it induces a positive charge on the ground. When the voltage becomes high enough a spark flies between the cloud and the earth; this is lightning. The spark is so hot, it causes the air to rapidly expand then collapse; this causes thunder.

Q4) Why does the voltage need to be very high before lightning can occur?

Lightning rods
Lightning rods are used to protect buildings from lightning strikes. They are usually made from a length of copper rod with a pointed end. They are attached to tall buildings and the lightning strikes them rather than the building itself.

Q5) Why do you think the rods are made of copper rather than iron which is cheaper?

Q6) Why do the rods have a pointed end?

Q7) It is standard advice that if caught out in a storm you should never stand under a lone tree. Why is this advice good?

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Bicycles/Maintenance and Repair/Pedals/Removing pedals

A pedal can be removed using a pedal wrench or, sometimes, an allen wrench if there is a hexagonal hole in the inside end of the pedal axle. A normal open end spanner/wrench will work on some pedals; an adjustable spanner/wrench spanner will typically not work, because the head is too wide to fit between the pedal and the crank. A good shop-quality pedal wrench will also be longer than these, for the required leverage. This leverage is also the limiting factor for the use of allen wrenches in this application.

If a normal spanner is all that you have (be it adjustable or not) then you may find that pedal removal is possible, especially if you are removing platform style pedals—these generally have larger lands for the spanner. Just take care not to scratch or gouge the crank arm (see photo at right). Position an adjustable wrench so that, when turned, the adjustable jaw is on the "inside" of the turn.

Usually, you should position the wrench as close to overlapping the crankarm as possible. (So that it is in front of the arm, not extending its line.) Before attempting to remove the right side pedal, make sure the chain is on the largest gear. (That way, if you slip, you'll have a more difficult time impaling yourself on the sharp chainring teeth.)

(Usually the left and right pedals are marked with an "L" or "R" on the end of the thread to make identification easy.)

Removing Bicycle Pedals

 * 1) The left pedal (for left foot) has a left-hand thread i.e. it unscrews in the opposite direction to most threads (to unscrew it, you have to turn it clockwise). Left and right side pedals have opposite threads. The right hand, drive side, pedal is right hand (normal) thread; the left hand, non-drive side, pedal is left hand (reverse) thread. One easy way to remember the directions is (with the bike the right way up) to position the wrench on the pedal nut and projecting vertically above it, and to always push the lever of the wrench toward the rear of the bicycle to loosen that pedal; this works on either side. The natural motion of the pedal (which is counter-clockwise) will unscrew the left pedal if it is not left-handed.
 * 2) Pedals, especially when they have not been removed in a long time, can be very tight. It is important to apply grease to the threads before reassembly, to facilitate the next disassembly. Doubly so if the parts will be in a corrosive environment. (Salted roads, near saltwater, etc.) Any general purpose grease is acceptable. Without grease, pedals are very likely to become seized later and make for troublesome removal.

Note that there are two sizes of pedal axles in common, current-day use: 1/2 inch diameter for the one piece cranks typically found on children's bikes and older American-made bikes, and 9/16 inch diameter for the two and three piece cranks found on most modern adult bikes. Both sizes have SAE threads at 20 tracks per inch.


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Talk:German/Lesson 6

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This Lesson 5 is a real conglomeration of pieces contributed by several of the contributors. Although it may (from the Page History) appear that Marshman did most of the work, this was definitely not the case. I think this is one of the best lessons to date (February 2004) and is actually mostly the work of Hansm and SamE, with Marshman structuring their contributions. Unfortunately, that structuring (moving stuff aroud) gives me more credit than I'm due. Thanks guys - Marsh 04:03, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Okay, a minor local one (but a killer), a major local (text) and a major general (vocab):

1. "Gib mich es!" is shocking because it contradicts the rules for word order and indirect object from the previous lesson. Correct: "Gib es mir!"

2. I think we do have a problem with the vocabulary lists. All of them! They are absolutely correct. But only for a very specific context. For exampel: You can translate 'office' with German 'Sitz' - possibly. The banks have their main offices in Zurich and therefore it is their 'Sitz' (site of most important building). Now imagine a student on his fifth lesson in German doing his first free translation. He has to check up the German word for 'office' (in the sense of -white collar workspace-) to form a new sentence and turns to his true and trusted Wikibook vocabulary list. Let's say the sentence is "I will go to the office later today." -> "Ich werde später zum !Sitz! gehen." I don't think so. "Na, wie war es im !Sitz! heute?" No! The word he is looking for is 'Büro'.

 * That is the whole point. Each Vokabeln is NOT a partial German dictionary, but reflects exactly how the word or term is used in that lesson (in the material above the Vokabeln) with minor "the same" meanings. If the word is used later with a different meaning (or a different word is introduced with a similar meaning), then it is repeated in the new Vokabeln It is worth thinking about to have an appendix that does what you are suggesting. Each word in the lessons given as in a dictionary, wirth some more detail such as you give. - marsh 19:10, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I don't think we should burden expressions with highly specific meanings before their standard interpretations have been established.

3. I wonder if the introductory text is too difficult. There is a lot of grammar in it that has not been introduced yet (passive, irregular verbs, complex side clauses). And lot of fillers muddy the waters.

 * I do agree to the extent that as much as possible the introductory passages should be simplified or (if to difficult) moved to later in the book. This is a slow, on-going process and would be a messy one if whole passages were just thrown out.  In the beginning, it is impossible not to have grammar that hass yet to be introduced. To do so would require very preschool, then first grade, then 2nd grade, etc. apperoach to including passages.  The point uis whether the student can understand a passage given the vocabulary presented; not whether he can understand the grammar behind each sentence. Much of the latter is picked up in the review process: sentence grammar in Lesson 1 is suddenly obvious after the stuident returns from having done Lessons 2-4. - marsh 19:10, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I don't know what of these issues has been discussed before and what the consensus is. Help me out there, please!

 * Floflei6

Okay I will try to list some more doubts about the vocabulary

Take this one, No 5:

der Ausfluss           outlet, effluence (of a stream, river, or lake)  minor: only with lakes, with rivers it's 'Mündung'
 * I will correct

das Ende               end  now, is it 'to end' or 'an end'?
 * It is in the "noun" section so it must be a noun.

das Haus               house verb or noun?
 * It is in the the noun section so it has to be a noun

der Sitz               office see above

nach Hause             to home ''' 'to home' is an infinitive for an English verb. The phrase 'nach Hause' is idiomatic: "Wir gehen nach Hause" or "Ich will nach Hause". The correct English translation would be "We go home" and "I want to go home". It is not "We go to home" or "Let's go to home" or "Do you fly to home tonight?" and so on. Therefore, word for word translation in the lists is not very feasible. In those cases we need phrases to demonstarte proper usage!'''
 * This should be done like this: nach Hause = (to) home

anrufen                call, telephone '''Is 'telephone here an equivalent of anrufen or a modifier for 'to call'? Obviously the latter. So, why not "jemanden anrufen     ->     to call someone on the telephone, to call"'''

 * it is in the "verb" section, so it must be the verb to telephone.
 * You should read the Introduction to the book as it explains this set-up of the vocabularies. Also, Lesson 1 emphasizes this again.  - marsh 19:21, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

kommen                 come ''' 'come' could be commandative form. I think infinitives need to be marked as such. '''

liegen (lag, gelegen)  lie (lay, lain)

am (an dem)            at the ''' How are people to know that prepositions plus articles can be contracted because that's what they need to know to get the point here. '''

bei                    in ''' Nope, 'bei' means 'near' or 'close to'. Then again it can mean a lot of other things, none of them is close to English 'in'. '''

beiden                 two ''' What happened to 'both'? Can you reverse it? 'Two' does not mean 'beide'. '''

gleichnamigen          same named ''' I am not an English native-speaker but 'same named' sounds a bit weird. '''

klein                  small ''' I love that case, because we had 'klein' already in an earlier unit and it meant 'short'. What now? '''

neben                  besides ''' Can you realy use 'besides' spatially? Shouldn't it be 'next to'? '''

nördlichen             northern schweiz                Swiss  'die nördliche Schweiz'

I think the word for word vocabulary lists don't answer. We need to provide aditional information about function and use of expressions. Infinitives need to be marked as such. Nouns likewise. Words have to stripped of aspect, form and tense (not Dativ/Akkusativ 'beiden' but Nominaitiv 'beide'). If possible, translations should be mutually entailing and reversable - work both ways.

I think that's it for the moment.

 * Again, most of the problems you indicate come from your not reading the introduction and Lesson 1 examples of how the Vokabeln are set up. While everything you say is true, it would apply only if the Vokabeln were dictionary entries, which they are not. They were set up to be simple and not confuse the learning stuident with all of the other meanings, exceptions, etc.  As they are now is very straight-forward, simple, and useful for the lesson in which they appear. You are essentially taking them out of context, and then saying: "Look, there is no context here" The context is there.  Irt is just not obvious when you jump into Lesson 4 from having not read all that went before - marsh 19:21, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Floflei6

"Mutti sagt Hallo." is nonsens! -> deleted --<IP_ADDRESS> 17:56, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Such actions are not the least bit helpful. You can correct the statement to "good" German, but your calling it "nonsense" is nonsensical - marsh 04:28, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * sorry, but there is realy NO SENSE in this sentence. Do you want to say somthing like: "Ich soll dich von Mutti grüßen."?--<IP_ADDRESS> 06:58, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, but is there an easier way to say that (mine was just a direct English formulation, obviously) since at this point in the text modals are complications. - marsh 17:26, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, what's about: "Mutti grüßt dich."? I wouldn't say this, but it's correct --<IP_ADDRESS> 23:25, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Danke. We can use that until something better comes along - marsh

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Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sinar Zaito/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

Suspicious new accounts showing up to restore the one edit of the master, and they don't make any other edits:, ,. IamNotU (talk) 22:06, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Just added today's sock, MonkeyPeaceMan: . Like the others, the account was created several days earlier, in this case half an hour after Lebanese1235. I would assume there are other sleepers, maybe a checkuser can have a look. --IamNotU (talk) 14:20, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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Comments by other users
 * - For confirmation and any sleepers. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 14:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The sockmaster in this case actually appears to be User:Sinar Zaito, a user I blocked for sockpuppetry on Azerbaijan at the beginning of the month.

 * Also ✅: User:Sinar Zayto, User:Zabofoli, and User:Dbdhffh.

 * Could a clerk move this to represent the sockmaster as being User:Sinar Zaito? GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:50, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ The SandDoctor  Talk 23:14, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing as nothing further to do here. The SandDoctor  Talk 23:15, 15 August 2020 (UTC)


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Mohd Shaid Rosli is a Malaysian politician who served as Member of the Selangor State Legislative Assembly (MLA) for Jeram from May 2018 to August 2023. He was a member of the Homeland Fighters Party (PEJUANG) and Malaysian United Indigenous Party (BERSATU), a component party of the Perikatan Nasional (PN) coalition and formerly Pakatan Harapan (PH) coalitions.

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On 8 August 2020, he left BERSATU and PN and declared that he would choose to work together with the former Prime Minister and former BERSATU Chairman Mahathir Mohamad who was expelled from BERSATU due to political differences with then Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin and BERSATU President who brought BERSATU out of PH and formed PN government as Mahathir opposed PN government by joining PEJUANG.

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Churiwal (Devanagari:चूरीवाल) is a surname in Agarwal Caste of Hindu community found throughout northern, central and western India, mainly in the states of Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab, Chandigarh, Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Delhi, Chhattisgarh, Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh.

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Talk:Dave Roberts (American actor)

The Ultimate, Ultimate Challenge is not not a real project. It was the subject of a movie, American Cannibal: The Road to Reality which is widely believed to be a mockumentary. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 23:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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