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Template talk:Hatnote templates documentation

Obnoxious
Most of these otheruses templates are obnoxious and sometimes their use is horribly irresponsible. Someone slaps one of these onto an article without thinking closely and it says, in effect "For other uses of women, see..." or "For other things to use arsenic trioxides for, see..." (poisoning people, maybe), etc. Wikipedia is not supposed to be a dictionary, defining the uses of a word. Rather, an article is supposed to be about the thing it's about, not about the word that names the thing. Conseequently, to say "For other senses of this word, see...", making it clear that you're referring to the word, would seem appropriate. The dablink template is adaptable and can be used intelligently or stupidly; the "otheruses" template are one-size-fits-all straightjackets and can seldom be used intelligently. Michael Hardy 21:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I disagree entirely. Very often, a word can mean multiple things, and we have separate articles on each of those things.  It's only logical, in such cases, to have a standardized template with which to refer the reader to the appropriate other articles.  dablink does nothing whatsoever to standardize Wikipedian conventions and make us look professional, since everyone uses their own words. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 05:13, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

"Look professional"??? Does it look professional when it says "For other uses of personal lubricants, see..." and "For other uses of slaves, see..."? I wouldn't mind a standardized template if it were not idiotic and allowed reasonable adaptations. Michael Hardy 20:21, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

 * It would be much more helpful if you'd not make straw man arguments. Your examples above (personal lubricants, slaves) are not actual usage. -- Netoholic @ 22:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

How do you know that? I read "For other uses of Honey, see..." (with a capital initial "H"). It resulted from the use of one of these templates. I've seen lots of pages where the phrase could reasonably be construed as a link to an article about other uses of the thing the article was about, rather than other uses of the term. People who edit this template seem seldom to notice which pages use them, and people slap them on to pages pretty indiscriminately. These pages are inflexible and cannot be judiciously adapted to the pages on whcih they appear. Michael Hardy 03:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The confusion about what the link refers to will only be exacerbated by lack of standardization. If we standardize otheruses templates, then we can clarify the formatting of all articles with a single edit.  For instance, I've just clarified all otheruses1 templates in response to your issue with their wording.  With just dablink, the misuses would have had to be hunted down and eliminated one by one. (I've also just standardized Honey, by the way, using that very template.  Do you find it ambiguous or otherwise undesirable?) —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 06:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Deletions
Templates which start "This article is about..." have been repeatedly deleted on TFD. The information is redundant as it should be in the first line of the article. Please do not create a template that starts with this phrase. ed g2s • talk 16:46, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

 * TFDs do not set policy, and your interpretation of the motives behind months-old TFDs are not binding. If you would like to establish a policy to deprecate such templates, please see Village pump (policy), Hatnotes, and/or Disambiguation, the latter two of which explicitly endorse templates such as Otheruses4 (albeit the former rather confusedly).  As of now, I have seen you present no evidence that there is or was any kind of wide consensus against the use of these templates, and indeed consensus at Template talk:Otheruses4 appears to be against you. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 05:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

intelligence

 * (moved from template)

I noticed that redirect5, unlike some of these templates, at least ALLOWS the editor not be a stupid illiterate. But is there some style manual to which users of template can be directed on which we can put suggestions on how to use those among these templates that are adaptable? In particular, that template allows the reader to choose between a capital and a lower-case initial. Lots of Wikipedians seem to think, incorrectly, the capitalization is required in these things. Michael Hardy 23:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Otheruses vs. Foruse?
Is there ever is reason to use Otheruses and a different reason to use Foruse? or is it just a matter of whatever the editor wants to use on any article?

Are there articles that Otheruses should be used for that don't make it clear in the first sentence what this article is about? I'm just wondering if there is a legitimate reason to have a template that has the 'this article is about' and a template that doesn't. Or is it just that different people have different tastes? Because I assume most people feel that all uses should either be otheruses or foruse... TheHYPO 15:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

 * There is no Template:Foruse. In any case, the differences between the various templates are mainly due to stylistic preferences: some people (such as me) find "for other uses" jarring when not preceded by something for other to modify (they require the reader to read past the sentence to make sense), while others find the description redundant and annoying.  As for when to use each, if it doesn't say "for other uses" nobody would particularly care if the summary went away, presumably; a simple  (" :For x, see y. ") would make everyone happy there.  Other than that, it's up to you. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 22:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Two other uses
Hehehe, I was just going to use the "wrong" two other uses version. It solved my problem at NHK :-( These templates do nothing at all, not even add articles to a category... -- ReyBrujo 03:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Otheruses4
Why would EdC want to reference  in the "For" section? See this diff for details. I'm tempted to revert EdC's change, but perhaps someone can convince me not to. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 05:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Reverted, due to overwhelming apathy. :)  — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Table of example usages
In an effort to get a better understanding of which templates to use and how, I have put together this table. Comments would be appreciated.... TimR 09:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

They use it in the other way
they use :''This article is about ______. For the _____ see ____'' instead of the templates listed in the box. This is not subst. And this method should not be used. Jer10 95 Talk 01:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Old way:

For the _____ see ____''

New ways:

Template:Redirect5 updated with correct usage
I had noticed that  was being shown on this documentation page, but it's usage appeared incorrect. I realized after going to the template page that it was a redirect to. I then went to update it so that it works the way it should.

So I'm just posting this here to let everyone know how it should be used and that it should not be confused with.

Current intended use of the template:

Current non-intended use, but works in the same way as  as you can see in the following examples:

--Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 16:49, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't PAGE1 and PAGE2 be protected from creation?
Shouldn't PAGE (disambiguation) and other pages like it be protected from creation considering the amount of template links to it from templates? -- OlEnglish (Talk) 06:17, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I've started a RfD discussion regarding this at Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2009_August_28. -- œ ™ 23:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Redirect6
What's the correct way of documenting optional variables? I found the two optional variables in this template through trial and error, but I think it would be useful to have them explicitly stated -- Bobyllib (talk) 17:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I'm not quite sure I understand your question.. all the parameters, including the ones for redirect6, are documented on the template page. Which two 'optional parameters' are you referring to? -- œ ™ 01:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

 * There is no documentation of the parameters on the template page. All that we have are examples, and the user is supposed to figure out what is happening from the examples.
 * For example, the "Other uses of the same title" section. As the first example, the we give an example with "USE1", but never say what "USE1" is. We should explain that "USE1" is a plain text description of the article where the hatnote appears. Like on the Knuckleball page, USE1 is "the baseball pitch", not "Knuckleball" or Knuckleball . And we doesn't explain that the default behavior is insert a link to a disambiguation page for the title of the article where the hatnote appears. We just give an example that links to the non-existing disambiguation page of the template documentation page itself (not USE1). That's confusing.
 * Then after "USE1", there are optional parameters, which the examples seem to suggest should be used in pairs, where "USE2" is a plain text description of another page, and "PAGE2" is the plain text title of another page. It doesn't explain that the template expects additional paramters to come in pairs, and doesn't explain the rule for how these pairs are handled.
 * Without an explanation of the rule, how is the user supposed to understand what the template is going to do with an empty second parameter followed by a different page name?
 * There is also one magic word. We mention, without explaining that this is a syntax for including a pipe statement in a template. (You can get this information by searching for "Template:!", which sends you to a soft redirect to a page on MediaWiki. We should explain it here.) The template also suggests "and" and "other uses" as default plain text page descriptions in description/page pairs. If that's what they are, we should say so.
 * And other problems. Apparently all of this explanation is a transclusion from the doc page for About. I guess I'll have to take these suggestions there. But the explanations of other hatnotes have the same problems. No wonder editors have to experiment before learning how to use them. --Margin1522 (talk) 19:37, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Most of these templates are hopelessly confusing until you've played around with them. I use them a lot and still get very confused by them. Most of the time I have to preview the hatnote several times to make sure I'm getting the parameters right (or to try a different template to see if it is somewhat less counterintuitive) older ≠ wiser 19:59, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. So it's not just me. I guess after a rant like that I have to try to do better. Maybe I'll try to make a test page with some explanation and concrete examples in it, and see what people say. --Margin1522 (talk) 23:08, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

New Template:Otherpersons3
"George Gordon Byron, 6th Baron Byron" recently had an otherpersons hatnote added: "For other persons named Lord Byron, see Baron Byron." And that was well done, I thought, except for the pedantic, niggling, itching little thought that technically "Lord Byron" wasn't his name but the honorific associated with his title (and now with the 13th Baron's), so really the hatnote should say "titled" rather than "named".

I've created a modified version of the template, otherpersons3, to allow that. It works exactly like otherpersons in all other respects, and if you use only the first one or two variables you'll never notice the difference. Add a third variable, like "titled" or "nicknamed" or "known as", and that will replace the "named" in the note. This is documented. I've replaced the hatnote in the Byron article, and it works.

If it also passes your own fiercest scrutiny, you may want to consider moving it into otherpersons, since the change should be transparent. — Sizzle Flambé (☎/✍) 01:55, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Looks nice, and as a solid proponent of less numbered variants of templates I'd support merging it with otherpersons. However, otheruses templates in general have a pattern for using positional parameters that this is very different from and I'd rather make these templates function more similarly rather than more differently. What do you think about naming this parameter? For example, what about, in fact, this would also allow you to use this feature without using the first two, such as which ought to look like  I'm open to other names for the parameter as well, just my first thought. Cheers, — sligocki (talk) 07:25, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

 * I'm agreeable; or in other words, I'd take that as a friendly amendment. Done. — Sizzle Flambé (☎/✍) 09:13, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Shortcut?
This template page contains good information about the usage of the templates. Should it be nice to have some type of Shortcut? --Kslotte (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * What about "T:OU"? T = for template (guidelines), O = Other, U = Uses. --Kslotte (talk) 21:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I have been WP:BOLD and implemented this. Hopefully you like it. --Kslotte (talk) 10:26, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

A perplexing problem about "about" - Advanced Editor Needed
When one visits Template:Otheruses_templates, everything seems fine; that is, until you encounter the line with USE5 and no |PAGE5 immediately following it. So, the activist editor goes to correct the problem, but finds that the following at that location:

*   (When there are up to five other uses — You should generally create a disambiguation page at this point)

Are there any ideas as to how this can be? Adavis444 (talk) 09:38, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The About template had two documentation parts: one specific text on 'About', and then the standard 'Other uses templates documentation' transcluded. Exactly the "|PAGE5" was missing in the About-text (and is present in the templated doc). This was the only difference. I deleted the specific text from Template:About/doc. The remaining text (the tempolated doc) has the |PAGE5 mentioned. -DePiep (talk) 14:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Why not named Template talk:Other uses templates - documentation/doc
When trying to improve the documentation and categorisation in these (Hatnote) templates, this is my worst discovery so far. Either it shout be called Template talk:Other uses templates/doc, or ... well what else? Even worse: there is even a /docfor this page - hay that's great! So see Template talk:Other uses templates - documentation/doc, which might be OK as an idea, but does not work. We, guards & creatos of the Kingdom of Templates, should prevent such a lower kingdom of individual ideas. -DePiep (talk) 23:42, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Merge with Template:Section template list
After this TfD, this template ("Htd") will be merged with Template:Section template list ("Section"). The latter "Section" one is to be redirected. I suggest this process: ✅ -DePiep (talk) 20:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Section template list
 * Hatnote templates documentation
 * 1) Crosscheck: Whatever examples are in Section, are they present in "Hatnotes T doc"? ✅
 * 2) Precheck visual effects when template "Section" will change (smart eye) ✅ Other spaces like Talk still look nice when Redirect. -DePiep (talk) 20:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Change "Section" from content to redirect. Done Plastikspork ―Œ (talk)  20:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) Housekeeping: delete Section/doc, check other hatnote documentation,  Category:Hatnote templates &tc.
 * 5) Write: Done here. -DePiep (talk) 19:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Is there a suitable template for this
See this edit. But is there a suitable template?

If not IMO one should be written or modified to suit; If so perhaps the documentation needs tweaking to make it easier to find. Andrewa (talk) 19:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * For these situations, there is the basic cover all → . Most other hatnote templates use this one behind the screens, and add a specialisation. -DePiep (talk)

 * Thank you! Andrewa (talk) 01:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Well we don't have one already, but I think a should be written, or possibly even add a "technical=yes" parameter to each of the existing "redirect" suite of templates. If set, this would just change "foo redirects here. For bar..." to "foo redirects here for technical reasons. For bar...". Thryduulf (talk) 02:14, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm, "technical reasons" in the hatnote to me is enlarging the question. At least there should be an explanation (-link). Where would it link without these reasons? Anyway, are there any good examples for this? -DePiep (talk) 17:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I is another page that would get this if that's what you mean. Thryduulf (talk) 06:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope it is what you mean ;-). So, the example shows my point: what would it redirect to if there was no technical reason? And: what is that technical reason (needs some link to WP:... I suggest)? (of course, no need to explain for this example). -DePiep (talk) 12:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Adding: the example I could use uses a "See dotted I for ..." part in such a this hatnote, which is part of the solution. By the way, before someone starts searching: there is no regular Redirect page for  ı . The pagename is changed into I before opening. -DePiep (talk) 17:18, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

See also vs. Further
The documentation gives no direction for when to use Template:Further and when to use Template:See also. Intuitively they mean the same thing to me, or else Further is the same thing as Main. --JFH (talk) 22:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Discussed Templates for discussion/Log/2011 March 4. Others did see a difference worth keeping. More talks and discussions on this exist. Note: templates may have been renumbered after an XfD, the XfD may not relect the correct (discussed) text any more. -DePiep (talk) 03:53, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

RfC about main/details/further
See Template talk:Main. Someone not using his real name (talk) 01:27, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Centralized talk page
Since Template:For/doc is little more than a transclusion of this doc template, it seems like it would be reasonable to centralize it here. Thoughts? —SamB (talk) 00:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * So, all hatnote/doc talks to be on one single talkpage. Sounds good to me. Does TALKCENT have a solution for talkpages that already have talks? (if no, still go ahead I'd say). -DePiep (talk) 10:10, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The usual practice for the /doc page of templates is that the /doc's talk page redirects to the talk page of the template, not to the talk page of another /doc. So Template talk:For/doc should redirect to Template talk:For. -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Trailing periods
With custom text fields, could the templates only add an extra period if the custom text does not itself end in one? So, e.g. would produce "Foo."; would produce "Foo."; and  would produce "Foo.."? I.e. you would only get more than one trailing period if you typed them in yourself. Thanks.  It Is Me Here  t /  c  17:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Other popes named Stephen
Would it be possible to delete this section from the documentation? The template was created for the articles Pope Stephen III through Pope Stephen IX. It is already used in all of those articles, and will probably be never be used again. --Margin1522 (talk) 05:19, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it cleans the place. Maybe a 'see also' mentioning? -DePiep (talk) 11:45, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I would like to delete it, but I don't know how. Information is being transcluded to so many places. I'm afraid that if I delete this section I will be erasing the only documentation that exists for this template. What I would like to do is delete it from this page and then add the information that I'm proposing below to the documentation page of the template, in such a way that it would exist only there and not be transcluded anywhere else. --Margin1522 (talk) 02:15, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hatnote templates have their own /doc subpage, as usual. In there you can add specific note.
 * Further/doc
 * Pope Stephen ToP Dab/doc
 * Also, in a /doc page you can see transcluded the generic universal documentation Hatnote templates documentation
 * You can edit this one separately
 * So you might want to remove that Pope hatnote from that universal documentation, and add some not to the specific /doc. Did this help? -DePiep (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. I've edited. See next section. -DePiep (talk) 20:10, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Template description form
As an editor, what I would like is for every template to have a form like the following on its documentation page.

Name
 * Pope Stephen ToP Dab

Purpose
 * This template displays a hatnote to explain differences in the ordinal numbering of Catholic popes who took the name Stephen.

Syntax
 * Pope Stephen ToP Dab|

Default parameters (! required)
 * !1: A roman numeral that is 1 less than the ordinal in the title of the article where this hatnote appears.

Named parameters (! required)
 * None.

Example

Output
 * Note: In some sources, this pope is called Stephen IV and Pope Stephen II is called Stephen III. See Pope-elect Stephen for detailed explanations.

Notes
 * This template should be used in the articles Pope Stephen III through Pope Stephen IX.

This seems like kind of the minimum of what you would see on a Man page or the description of a function in an programming API. If every template had a form like this, then editors could go there for a complete description of what it does, and help authors could refer to it for guidance about how to explain it. Also it would help if anyone had to approve it. Sorry, I'm just an editor and know nothing about templates. Is there an approval process or can anybody write one? --Margin1522 (talk) 02:15, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. I have edited to describe what you wrote. I tried to make it understandable for those who do not know about this numbering topic (like me, but I still don't get the "minus 1" text).
 * I also changed . The Stephan hatnote is no more a main section.
 * Is this OK for you? -DePiep (talk) 20:15, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. That is perfect, exactly what I wanted to do.
 * The problem is that some sources didn't recognize one pope, and some did, so there were two numbering schemes. The person who coded the template apparently found it easier to work with a parameter that is 1 less than the number that appears in the article title. Which is fine, it works and displays the proper message.
 * And sorry for the interruption. I was breaking a netiquette rule here by asking a question without investigating the history of how things came to be like they are. Next time I will find out more more about template documentation before asking. --Margin1522 (talk) 21:10, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thx. I did not see any problem wrt etiquette. And I still don't get the VII=numbering issue this template addresses (of course, I could click a link or two - but hey, the doc must be OK by itself). -DePiep (talk) 21:14, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * btw, the hatnote at Pope-elect Stephen (pointed to from this one) is illegibele. I do not understand (and I can count, really). Why not write something like: "the numbering was fucked up, there is a +1/-1 difference with these popes". Now please focus on thise numbering issue. -DePiep (talk) 21:30, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You mean it's incomprehensible? I agree it could be clearer. The problem is that this Stephen (called by some Stephen II) was elected but died before he could be consecrated. Therefore some sources say that this Stephen was not a pope and the real Stephen II was the next one. Instead of calling the next one III, we should call him II. Hence the double numbering schemes. Anyway I really like the way you added the Usage section. That seems like an excellent way to handle special parameters like this one. --Margin1522 (talk) 01:56, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

re BD2412: what does this say?
re I still do not understand what your edit says. (really, I know about hatnotes, disambiguation, and linking). I propose to remove the text, or make is crystal clear. -DePiep (talk) 22:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, I have tried to clear it up a bit more. bd2412  T 22:07, 19 September 2014 (UTC)


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User:Hisrose/sandbox

I Love Him Across the Universe and Back

"December,16,2012

I was hosting a teen party in Yoville, but it was kinda failed. Not many people came. I was just chilling and talking to my friend Lin. Then he came, he seemed really chill and random. He asked if he could add us on Facebook, so I gave him my name and he added me on Facebook then he left.

A couple days later

We started chatting. We talked a couple times and well we flirted or I think we were flirting. My ex was Filipino which made me have a thing for them. I liked his profile picture, I asked him where he's from, he said he's half Asian. He's really hot!! I still wanted to talk to him but didn't know what to say. I was working on a project so I thought why not, I could ask him to help me with that! classic way of attracting a guy, haha. Anyways, he helped me with it, it was nice. He led me on and I knew I was falling for him.

Next day

What an idiot?! I thought he liked me! how could he ask someone else out? he's so sweet to her! I admit I'm jealous!!! >.< ya know what? I need to keep him close, as a friend. I'll pretend like im still into my ex and ask him for advice. I'll make him a bro!

After a few days

Wow, Hermione really is smart!! I've been there for him through stuff and helped him with his girlfriend. Now He's pretending as if its his sister and saying that I should date him! But he's still with her! that's not okay!"

This is the first part. To find the next part, check the date he finally got the guts to ask her out.

source: wikimedia

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: User:Hisrose/sandbox


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Talk:me three

me three
Um, I like pizza? --Connel MacKenzie 08:11, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * delete --Williamsayers79 10:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Keep — idiomatic — unless you want to add an adverb sense to three, which I'd be O.K. with, though I've never actually heard someone use this sense of three in any other phrase. (I'm not 100% sure that "it's likely that someone would run across it and want to know what it means", as the CFI put it — it's hard to imagine a context where it could be used without its meaning being clear — but it's certainly likely that a non-native speaker would run across it and want to know if it's standard usage, or even that a native speaker would run across it and want to know if it's dialectic. So, I guess I'm arguing that we keep this for the sense label as much as for the definition.) If the example bothers you, we can always replace it. (Also, possibly move to me, three.) —RuakhTALK 16:06, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Keep --Ptcamn 11:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

 * As long as it doesn't lead to the addition of me 4, me 5, etc. It's really not that idiomatic, but it is very common (even though the context tends to make it obvious enough without explanation).  It also seems to be more of a youth thing, playing on the secondary nature of too which is pronounced nearly identically to 2, whereas there is no tertiary equivalent to too, only 3, etc., and I wouldn't be surprised if you could fill in citations for me four and me five, but they really are sum of parts, just of the non-standard/informal/messed up kiddie grammar variety.--Halliburton Shill 16:27, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I can only find Google book hits for up to me five, so I guess we'd have to stop there. Using quotations only from Usenet to justify me six is kinda pushing it. DAVilla 22:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

title: Talk:me three


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Talk:Unteroffizier

Untitled
Pretty sure unter translates as under, I know a wee bit of German. If you go to freetranslation and type in unteroffizier it says "corporal"
 * "unter" does indeed translate "under", but "sub" has the same meaning, though it is derived from Latin, while "under" comes from the germanic language tradition of English. Unteroffizier means ths that they are under the officers in rank, or maybe also "lower officers", as "unter" can also translate "below". I am German so trust me ;)--<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 14:02, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thing is that the position might be that of "Corporal" historically, but according to the NATO an Unteroffizier is OR-5 while a Corporal is OR-4 and that's Stabsgefreiter and Oberstabsgefreiter in the Bundeswehr. Whence it seems appropriate to translate Stabsgefreiter, Oberstabsgefreiter, Unteroffizier, Stabsunteroffizier with Corporal, Lance-Sergeant, Junior Sergeant and Sergeant. Whether a Staff Sergeant is rather to be translated as Feldwebel or as Oberfeldwebel may remain open. --<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 12:16, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

title: Talk:Unteroffizier


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Talk:Drew Meyer

Untitled
Engagement reported first hand on KTCK AM Dallas radio, March 6, 2007 at 4:05pm Erik.hensarling 22:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

title: Talk:Drew Meyer


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Gustaf Erik Hasselgren

Gustaf Erik Hasselgren (15 November 1781 — 9 March 1827) was a Swedish painter and etcher. He specialized in Biblical and historical subjects.

Biography
He was born in Stockholm. His father, Erik Gustaf Hasselgren, was the local head of the security guard; a position akin to police chief. From 1798, he studied with Pehr Hilleström at the Royal Swedish Academy of Fine Arts, where his works, largely historical in nature, were awarded several medals, including the Academy's first silver medal in 1803. He became an agré (a type of member-candidate) in 1804 and received a major travel scholarship in 1806.

He first went to Berlin, where he stayed for a year, but was not able to accomplish much, due to an illness. This was followed by three years in Dresden and one year in Vienna, before he settled in Italy. He remained there for five years; becoming associated with the German art colony and befriending Johann Friedrich Overbeck, one of the major figures in the Nazarene movement.

During his travels (in 1812), he had been named a full member of the Academy. In 1816, he returned to Sweden to succeed Hilleström as Professor of figure painting. The following year, he married the artist Anna Catharina Åbom.

His larger works include a "Resurrection of Christ", which is in Saint James's Church, Stockholm, and a depiction of "Ragnar Lodbrok", which was commissioned by King Karl XIV Johan. His works may also be seen at the Nationalmuseum and the Norrköpings konstmuseum.

Hasselgren died in Stockholm on 9 March 1827.

title: Gustaf Erik Hasselgren


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Talk:logic

what is logic as art?

Definitions
Created as a basis for discussion and finetuning.

Concerning 1., I did not know that logic was a sequential method of problem solving, which is how I understand the definition. The definition 2. seems fine with me; the key words are inference--a production of statements from statements--and demonstration AKA proof, which, in case of mathematical proof, relies on deductive inference. --Daniel Polansky 12:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Here’s a citation for pejorative use
I was surprised to see this word in Category:English pejoratives. For what it’s worth, I did some quick research and found a web page, apparently a book in text-file form, documenting that the word “logic” has indeed often had pejorative connotations among some historians:. --Ginkgo100 (talk) 21:37, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

title: Talk:logic


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Micropezidae

The Micropezidae are a moderate-sized family of acalyptrate muscoid flies in the insect order Diptera, comprising about 500 species in about 50 genera and five subfamilies worldwide, (except New Zealand and Macquarie Island). They are most diverse in tropical and subtropical habitats, especially in the Neotropical Region.

Insects in this family are commonly called stilt-legged flies, after their characteristically long legs. The fore legs are markedly smaller than the other pairs. Mostly, they are long-bodied, often black flies, usually with infuscated (darkened) wings. Wings are reduced in the genera Calycopteryx and entirely absent in the ant-like Badisis ambulans.

Description
For terms see Morphology of Diptera

Very slender, small to large (3–16 mm) flies, they have long, thin legs and narrow wings. The head is small and elongated or rounded. The antennae are small and the arista is bare or pubescent. Ocelli are present, but ocellar bristles are absent. Vibrissae are absent and the postvertical bristles are divergent or absent. Up to three pairs of frontal bristles curve forward or backward. Interfrontal bristles are absent. The wings are clear or have a smoky pattern. The costa is without interruptions. The subcosta is complete, its ending in the costa close to vein R1. The posterior basal wing cell and discoidal wing cell are sometimes fused. Crossvein BM-Cu present or (Micropezinae) absent. The abdomen is long and narrow. The tibiae lack a dorsal preapical bristle.

Biology
Some species, much the same as in the strongylophthalmyiid genus, Strongylophthalmyia, mimic ants; others mimic wasps and are especially similar in appearance to some ichneumonid wasps. Species of the genus Anaeropsis have stalked eyes.

Little is known of the larval habits, but they are probably phytophagous or saprophagous in decayed vegetation, old manure, or fungi. Larvae of certain Mimegralla species have been found to live in the roots of ginger and other plants, under the bark of dead trees, or in other decaying material. Species of Micropeza have phytophagous larvae feeding in the root nodules of leguminous plants in open habitats. Species of Rainieria develop in rotting wood and are found in old forests. Adults are either predatory on small insects (for example Calobata in Britain ) or are attracted to excrement or decaying fruit. Adults are found on low herbage, flowers, leaves, rotting fruit, and excrement.

Many species (for example those of genus Mimegralla) are known for their habit of standing motionless while waving their prominently marked front legs in front of their heads, a behavior which contributes to their mimicry of wasps. At least one species of Metopochetus (M. curvus) was observed to wave its hind legs instead, though these are not conspicuously colored.

Identification

 * Czerny. 1930. Tylidae. In: Lindner, E. (Ed.). Die Fliegen der Paläarktischen Region 5, 42a, 13–16. Keys to Palaearctic species but now needs revision (in German).
 * Séguy, E. (1934) Diptères: Brachycères. II. Muscidae acalypterae, Scatophagidae. Paris: Éditions Faune de France 28. virtuelle numérique
 * Shtakel'berg, A.A. Family Micropezidae (Tylidae in part) in  Bei-Bienko, G. Ya, 1988 Keys to the insects of the European Part of the USSR Volume 5 (Diptera) Part 2 English edition. Keys to Palaearctic species but now needs revision.

Conservation
Calycopteryx mosleyi, found on the Kerguelen Islands and Heard Island, is associated with the Kerguélen cabbage (Pringlea antiscorbutica, Brassicaceae). As this plant is being destroyed by introduced rabbits, the fly is considered vulnerable.

The larvae of Badisis ambulans live in the pitchers of the endangered Albany pitcher plant (Cephalotus follicularis, Cephalotaceae).

Fossil record
Several fossil species have been found in Baltic amber, probably from the Late Eocene (about 36 million years old). However, most were washed onto beaches after wearing from Tertiary strata, making their age uncertain. Two fossil genera are presently recognized, Cypselosomatites Hennig, 1965 and the advanced Electrobata Hennig, 1965 which may be more than one genus however.

Genera
This list is compiled from the BioSystematic Database of World Diptera and probably complete as of January 2007.

 * Anaeropsis Bigot, 1866
 * Badisis McAlpine, 1990
 * Calobata Meigen, 1803
 * Calobatella Mik, 1898
 * Calobatina Enderlein, 1922
 * Calosphen Hennig, 1934
 * Calycopteryx Eaton, 1875
 * Cardiacephala Macquart, 1843
 * Cephalosphen Hennig, 1934
 * Chaetotylus Hendel, 1932
 * Cliobata Enderlein, 1923
 * Cnodacophora Czerny, 1930
 * Compsobata Czerny, 1930
 * Cothornobata Czerny, 1932
 * Courtoisia Barraclough, 1993
 * Crepidochetus Enderlein, 1922
 * Crosa Steyskal, 1952
 * Cryogonus Cresson, 1926
 * Ectemnodera Enderlein, 1922
 * Electrobata Hennig, 1965
 * Erythromyiella Hennig, 1935
 * Eurybata Osten Sacken, 1882
 * Globomyia Hennig, 1935
 * Globopeza Marshall, 2005
 * Glyphodera Enderlein, 1922
 * Grallipeza Rondani, 1850
 * Grammicomyia Bigot, 1859
 * Hemichaeta Hennig, 1934
 * Hoplocheiloma Cresson, 1926
 * Mesoconius Enderlein, 1922
 * Metasphen Frey, 1927
 * Metopochetus Enderlein, 1922
 * Micropeza Meigen, 1803
 * Mimegralla Rondani, 1850
 * Mimomyrmecia Frey, 1927
 * Neograllomyia Hendel, 1933
 * Neria Robineau-Desvoidy, 1830
 * Nestima Osten Sacken, 1881
 * Notenthes Marshall, 2002
 * Papeza McAlpine, 1975
 * Paramimegralla Hennig, 1937
 * Parasphen Enderlein, 1922
 * Plocoscelus Enderlein, 1922
 * Poecilotylus Hennig, 1934
 * Pseudeurybata Hennig, 1934
 * Ptilosphen Enderlein, 1922
 * Rainieria Rondani, 1843
 * Scipopus Enderlein, 1922
 * Steyskalia Aczel, 1959
 * Stiltissima Barraclough, 1991
 * Taeniaptera Macquart, 1835
 * Tenthes Cresson, 1930
 * Trepidarioides Frey, 1927
 * Zelatractodes Enderlein, 1922

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Talk:XML - Managing Data Exchange/SMIL

Why not mention commercial software!??
In the article, it says: "Given that WikiBooks is a publicly-available 'open' book, it would be inappropriate to include information about or links to any commercial SMIL tools." - I don't see why this wikiBook should not mention commercial software! There are other books on wikibooks.org dedicated to commercial software such as the wikibook on Oracle or Microsoft_SQL_Server_2005

Why Netbeans only ?
There are a lot of XML editors, but in this book Netbeans is a special case, letting the reader think that Netbeans would be better than any other XML Editor available. I guess this is wrong, any XML Editor, given that it provides comprehensive functionnality, would be equal to Netbeans in this regard.

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Film editing/Editing dialog for music/Film scoring procedures

Under Construction This Month
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The spotting session

 * No director ; No composer
 * In the spotting session, the director tells the film composer what music he wants. In this case, the director has not given us any notes and there is no music composer.  You are both the film composer and the editor.

 * Therefore, you will have to decide what moods are needed and how you will create the music which will create that mood.

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Write down all the moods

 * Preparation
 * The first scene is very long so it has lots of moods. This movie is a melodrama so there are even more moods that normal in a motion picture.

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The moods of the first scene

 * Part 1
 * In the hall outside the law office, we have many moods:

 * The blindman is having a very serious conversation. Busy, busy, busy.  Since this conversation is not important to the story, we can cover the conversation with music.  This is one of the exceptions when you can use narrative music which covers up the dialog of the actors.  You don't want the audience to worry about this conversation so hide it with music.

 * When the man offers a ride to the blindman, we don't want the audience to feel anything. Therefore, there should be no music now.

 * When the man plays a joke on the man, we need to explain that the two men like each other. If we use the wrong music, the audience would get the wrong idea. The music must be humorous yet warm and friendly.

 * When the man enters the office, we don't want the audience to feel anything special. Therefore, no music as the blindman enters the law office.

 * When the beautiful law partner begins to joke, we need to tell the audience that she is not serious and that she is happy. The dialog is not clear on this.  With the proper music, this could be interpreted many different ways.

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 * How to create a demo reel [[Image:Crystal Clear action forward.png|24px]]

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I have listed your resources in the School of Language and Literature resource catalog--please list any new resources there! Thanks! Your division looks great, by the way. --Trinity507 03:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

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Dama koja ubija
This film needs its own article. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

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Wrestling at the 1986 Asian Games

Wrestling was one of the sports which was held at the 1986 Asian Games in Seoul, South Korea between 25 September and 4 October 1986. The competition included only men's events.

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Fragile Thing

"Fragile Thing" is a song by Scottish rock band Big Country, released in 1999 as the lead single from their eighth studio album Driving to Damascus. It was written by Stuart Adamson and Bruce Watson, and produced by Rafe McKenna and Big Country. "Fragile Thing" reached number 69 in the UK Singles Chart. A music video was filmed to promote the single.

Background
Vocalist and guitarist Stuart Adamson has described "Fragile Thing" as being about "loss and redemption". Bassist Tony Butler told The Hounslow Chronicle in 1999 that the song is "slowish and ballady" and "tailored to Radio 2 listeners". He later recalled in 2006, "There's a haunting vibe to the sound (and chord structure) that I find very chilling yet infectious. It is a beautiful song embellished fantastically by Eddi Reader. It's about as country as I would go though."

The song features Adamson duetting with Eddi Reader. Reader recalled for Allan Glen's biography Stuart Adamson: In a Big Country, "I was living in London and got a call about working with the band and Stuart came round to my house for a chat. He explained that he would like to duet with me on this track, 'Fragile Thing', and when I heard it I thought it was wonderful."

Release
"Fragile Thing" was released as the first single from Driving to Damascus. It gained airplay on local and national radio, and was added to BBC Radio 2's A and B playlists. Despite Track Record's belief that the song would break the UK Top 40, sales suffered after the limited edition CD release (housed in a box) had to be withdrawn by the label. The chart regulator, CIN, informed the label on the day of release that sales of the limited edition CD would not count towards the chart position due to packaging regulations (the single had "one cardboard fold too many"). When Track Record recalled the CD, some retailers, including HMV, withdrew all editions of the single in error. Adamson told Teletext in October 1999, "CIN have these rules and decided [the single] was illegal 'cause the packaging had more than four folds. It was upsetting 'cause it was selling well. Utter madness!"

Speaking of the single's limited commercial success, Butler told Louder Sound in 2018, "I know that really hurt Stuart a lot. It wasn't fair and the album died because of it. A lot of things went sour because of [the] scenario [with CIN]. It definitely hit Stuart bad. And it really did kill the commercial potential of the band."

Critical reception
In a review of Driving to Damascus, Aaron Badgley of AllMusic commented, "Listening to the harmony vocals melt with the guitars in "Fragile Thing," it's difficult not to be moved." Ian Cranna of Q stated, "Overt country touches are few - "Fragile Thing" comes closest". Scott Rowley of Louder Sound considered the song "a well-crafted, country-tinged ballad, albeit one that had more in common with the Beautiful South than the Celtic rockers of old."

Track listing

 * CD single (UK release)
 * 1) "Fragile Thing" - 3:43
 * 2) "I Get Hurt" - 4:30
 * 3) "John Waynes Dream" - 4:59

 * CD single (UK limited edition)
 * 1) "Fragile Thing" - 3:43
 * 2) "Loserville" - 5:25
 * 3) "Dust On the Road" - 3:28

 * CD single (European release)
 * 1) "Fragile Thing" - 3:43
 * 2) "Loserville" - 5:25
 * 3) "Camp Smedley’s Theme " - 3:56

Personnel
Big Country
 * Stuart Adamson - vocals, guitar
 * Bruce Watson - guitar
 * Tony Butler - bass
 * Mark Brzezicki - drums

Additional musicians
 * Eddi Reader - backing vocals

Production
 * Big Country - producers (all tracks)
 * Rafe McKenna - producer (all tracks), mixing and recording on "Fragile Thing"
 * Lee Butler - recording assistant on "Fragile Thing"
 * Tim Young - mastering on "Fragile Thing"

Other
 * Jim Herrington - photography
 * JP3 for Playground Art - art direction, design

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No P. or D.

No P. or D. is the debut studio album by German indie electronic band Ms. John Soda. It was released on 7 October 2002 by Morr Music.

Reception
Pitchfork critic Eric Carr highlighted the "serene vocals" and "rich, deep melodies" present throughout No P. or D., describing the album as a "fantastically accessible" record that "can be enjoyed with as much or as little of the brain as desired." Tiny Mix Tapes reviewer Wolfman wrote that he "couldn't help but feel a deep sense of inner peace" while listening to the album. Jaime Vázquez of AllMusic cited Ms. John Soda's ability to create "mood" as their "greatest strength", adding: "They make recordings that can be left on as background, but the arrangements hold up to scrutiny and reveal new subtleties with each listen." In a less enthusiastic review, Stylus Magazine's Kareem Estefan was critical of the band's "cautious approach" and deemed the album "good, but inessential." At the end of 2003, No P. or D. was listed by Pitchfork as the year's 45th best album.

Personnel
Credits are adapted from the album's liner notes.

Ms. John Soda
 * Micha Acher
 * Stefanie Böhm

Additional musicians
 * Thomas Geltinger – drums
 * Gerhard Gschlößl – trombone
 * Carl Oesterhelt – percussion
 * Ulrich Wangenheim – flute

Production
 * Michael Heilrath – mastering
 * Ms. John Soda – production
 * Mario Thaler – production

Design
 * Jan Kruse – cover and booklet artwork
 * Gerald von Foris – photography

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Talk:whomever

This page
I thought some mention ought to be made of whomsoever. Whomever is rare at best and always has been. Whomsoever is found in 92,000 works at Project Gutenberg compared with 688 instances of of "whomever". Also, the explanation about when to use which pronoun isn't very helpful. If I want to know whether to say "whom are you looking at?" or "who are you looking at" I can't really substitute a "he" or a "him.--<IP_ADDRESS> 03:25, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Google books search, more weighted to modern, makes it much closer to equal, still favoring "whomsoever" ~ 3:2. Restricting date to 1980-2008 shifts balance to "whomever" 3:2. DCDuring 16:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

 * That's fair enough. I always felt "whomever" was a mistake or a back formation; most earlier authors never used "whomever" and in the present day both "whomever" and "whomsoever" are rare. That said, I can't really argue with actual use. There is a difficulty with the 1980 - 2006 search though. Of the first ten examples of whomever, six are from grammar books attempting to explain the word's use, so should probably be excluded; two are examples of hypercorrect, bad grammar ("What does your little girl feel toward dad, mom, or whomever is standing in front of you?", "Thanking whomever had intervened on his behalf..." - just as it's not correc to say "he thanked the man whom had intervened."). One example does not allow enough context for sure conclusions to be made. Only one is an example that would ever be cited in Wiktionary. By contrast, the first ten examples for "whomsoever" are clear, natural uses. This pattern seems to continue for later search results too. Anyway, I added a mention of whomsoever to this page, pointing out its existence without proscribing "whomever".--<IP_ADDRESS> 16:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I'd bet that the 'extra' syllable "-so-" will dropped with increasing frequency wheresoever (ha-ha) it is still used (whoever, whomever), except where there is a competing use of the "-so-"-less competitor. "Whatsoever" won't want to be confused with "whatever", so often used as an intejection. If a misspelling like "garned" (for "garnered") gets 60-70% as many hits on Google Groups as "garnered", what chance does "whomsoever" have? DCDuring 18:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

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Njai Dasima (1929 film)

Njai Dasima (Perfected Spelling: Nyai Dasima) is a 1929 silent film from the Dutch East Indies (modern day Indonesia). It details the fall of a rich mistress at the hands of a greedy delman driver. The first film released by Tan's Film, the film – adapted from an 1896 novel – was a critical and commercial success. It was released in two parts, followed by a sequel, and remade another two times by 1940.

Part 1
Dasima (Nurhani) is a nyai, or a native mistress, for the Englishman Edward William. The couple and their daughter Nancy live in a home near Gambir Square in Batavia (modern day Jakarta). The delman driver Samiun has fallen in love with Dasima, despite already being married to Hayati. He attempts to use spells to win her heart. He also has an egg merchant, Mak Buyung, frighten Dasima by telling the young woman that she has committed the sin of zina (extramarital sex). Samiun eventually succeeds, and Dasima goes to live with him and Hayati, taking along gold and jewels. Hayati has agreed to let Samiun take a second wife as she wants Dasima's money, which she will use for gambling.

Part 2
Dasima eventually realises that she has been tricked and begins to keep a close eye on her remaining wealth. To get at it, Samiun calls the thug Puasa and tells him to rob the young woman. At night, as Dasima goes to hear the story of Amir Hamzah at a nearby village, Puasa accosts her. He panics when she screams and kills her, then throws her body off a bridge; it washes up behind Williams' home. Samiun and Puasa are caught and sentenced to hang.

Production
Njai Dasima was the first film produced by Tan's Film, owned by ethnic Chinese. Directed at native viewers, Njai Dasima was filmed from September to October 1929.

The story was based on a novel written by G. Francis in 1896, which was advertised as based on a true story from 1813 Batavia. The story had previously been adapted by Toneel Melayu troupe. Tan's often adapted the troupe's work, and Njai Dasima was among their most successful. Like most native adaptations of the novel, Njai Dasima avoided the anti-Muslim undertones present in the original work.

Njai Dasima was directed by Lie Tek Swie and produced by Tan Khoen Yauw. Nurhani, who played Dasima, was cast from the general populace. Other stars included Anah, Wim Lender, and Momo. The cinematography was handled by Andre Lupias.

Release and reception
Njai Dasima was released in November 1929; it was released in two parts; the conclusion of the story was released in 1930. It was a commercial success, to the point that the Indonesian film historian Misbach Yusa Biran writes that a cinema could make up several days losses with a single showing of the film. Despite critical acclaim for her acting, Nurhani never played another film role.

The film critic Kwee Tek Hoay, known for his scathing reviews, praised the visuals in Njai Dasima and the acting of Nurhani and the girl who played Nancy. However, he criticised the other actors, describing the one who played Williams as too young, the one who played Samiun as looking like a bellboy, and the one who played Mak Buyung as looking half crazy. The magazine Doenia Film praised the filmography and acting by the lead characters. The magazine Panorama later wrote that Njai Dasima was an important film for the Indies, as it showed that locally produced films could compete with foreign, especially American, ones.

The film spawned a sequel, Nancy Bikin Pembalesan (Nancy Takes Revenge; 1930). The critically acclaimed sequel followed an adult Nancy in a quest to avenge her mother's death, leading to Samiun falling down a well and Hayati killing herself. Tan's Film made another adaptation of Njai Dasima in 1932, which Armijn Pane described as the first talkie in the Indies with good sound quality. Yet another adaptation, entitled Dasima, was directed by Tan Tjoei Hock in 1940.

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Brunswick SC (1921–1936)

The second known Brunswick Soccer Club was an Australian association football (soccer) club based in the inner-northern suburbs of Melbourne, presumably Brunswick. The club was founded in early 1921 and competed in the first and second-tier leagues of the Victorian state soccer system throughout its existence, until dissolving at the conclusion of the 1936 season. The club is known for winning the 1931 state championship, then known as the 'Metropolitan League Division One'.

Off the field, little is known about the club itself, with the club's home venue and playing colors remaining a mystery. This club appears to have had no link to the Brunswick Soccer Club that competed only in the 1915 tier two season, and no connection to the other Brunswick named soccer clubs that would follow. The 1930s saw multiple football clubs dissolve in the state of Victoria with Brunswick folding in 1936. Fellow tier one champions St Kilda, Windsor and Melbourne Thistle all folded in the mid-1930s, at a time of economic stress resulting from the Great Depression in Australia.

Brunswick's first competitive game was played on 7 May 1921 and resulted in a 2–0 win against the St Kilda reserves team which played in the Second Division for that season. Brunswick went on to win the Victorian Second Division at its first attempt in 1921 and attain promotion to First Division.

On 27 June 1936 Brunswick played its last game defeating Box Hill 2–1 in the final round of the Victorian Second-tier league, then known as 'Metropolitan League Division Two'.

Honours

 * Victorian Division One (state first tier)
 * Premiers (1): 1931

 * Victorian Division Two (state second tier)
 * Premiers (1): 1921
 * Runners-up (1): 1929

 * Dockerty Cup
 * Runners-up (1): 1931

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Pictures I've Taken
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Metacomet
Everything in the article seems relevant and closely related to the topic. The article is well written but very brief and could use some expansion on some of the content. Perhaps a timeline would be useful as its confusing as to what happens in each year. The section on Metacomb’s legacy also lacks detail and rather just lists a couple of monuments. The intro is very strong, it provides a very good holistic recount of the significant events surrounding his life. The article is neutral, it doesn't look like there is any bias or overrepresented viewpoints. The article is definitely missing some citations for some of the more general historical claims which should not be too difficult to fix. Most of the sources come from history websites like www.u-s-history.com or from some sort of .edu website. There are definitely no signal phrases and the information, while presented well, is not paraphrased very well and could possibly be at risk of plagiarizing the original source. The article is rated “Nearly a B” and could use a lot of work. Behind the scenes there is a lot of discussion surrounding the term “Native Americans” as the term is used throughout the article. The conversation surrounds using this term as a generalization for the vast amount of tribes and groups with their own nuanced traditions and uniqueness. I found this particularly interesting as it is not something I would have thought of as an issue, but now that it is being pointed out it seems inappropriate to use the term “Native Americans” as it was only a few groups that participated in King Philip’s War. This issue was actually pointed out in 2017 and to this day has not been changed. While never in this context and in regards to Native Americans, we have had some discussions around terminology and labeling in the LGBTQ community.

Handmaid’s Tale Wikipedia Evaluation
To start, the Wikipedia article is very mediocre, the introduction is tolerable and the summary could use some expansion and improvements but is at least accurate. The lead section and summary section do a solid job with following the format and portraying relevant information in an efficient manner. The characters section is also pretty strong. There is also a strong lack of information surrounding the book's public reception. This section needs particular work considering the scope of the book's influence and the amount of controversy it has sparked. I did notice there is not a significant analysis section that discusses the overarching themes of the book. Considering how dense some of the subjects are, it seems necessary that there should be a very detailed section of this article discussing the themes of desperacy, power, and the ever prevalent unreliable narrator. The article could benefit significantly from some more detailed academic analysis of the text and its deeper meaning. As a whole the article is vastly lacking in sources. Future editors should look to incorporate credible sources and academic figures into this Wikipedia article. The article needs a lot of work in regards to its structure and volume of reliable information.

Rule and Merriman points
In regards to the Rule article, the Handmaid's Tale's Wikipedia article would benefit most from incorporating information surrounding the significance of the book's dedication section. It is noted that Atwood dedicates the novel to her own ancestor Mary Webster but there is no note of Perry Miller, her Harvard professor. The significance of this dedication and the academic discussion surrounding infered parallels to Professor Pieixoto should be noted in this Wikipedia article.

For the Merriman article, the Handmaid's Tale's Wikipedia article could be significantly improved if there was some discussion surrounding implications of the white protagonist and the intersection between race and sex. As these issues are becoming increasingly societally significant, they should be discussed in a notable and well rated wikipedia article when applicable. This discussion could easily be placed under the analysis section that the article currently lacks.

Handmaid’s Tale Article VS Fun Home Article
While the Fun Home article is certainly a solid article, it lacks some modern and new information. This is particularly noticeable in the section surrounding its reception where the last recount is from 2012. Considering the increasing prevalence of discussion surrounding the LGBTQ community, suicide, and many other themes in the novel, this section is certainly inadequate and needs significant improvement. As compared to the article on the Handmaid's Tale, the Fun Home article does a much better job at noting some of the more nuanced themes in the novel. While it could certainly take a deeper dive, this analysis is largely accomplished in the section on "allusions".

The Handmaid's Tale and Fun Home Specific Issues and Responses Fix
- The article on The Handmaid's Tale is unorganized and missing vast amounts relevant information.

- The contents box after the article's introduction is too long and too complicated for anyone to actually utilize it to their benefit as noted by the fact that it is longer than my entire screen and requires that I scroll up and down to see all aspects.

- This contents box should be reduced to the major sections and perhaps some of the more developed and more significant examples within the larger sections. At the moment the content box includes almost every subsection of the article and places too much emphasis on minor aspects of the article.

Wolf of Wall Street Article Edits and Work
The Wolf of Wall Street has been a highly controversial film both in regards to its production, profanity, and underlying thematic interpretation. The film has sparked outrage and debates from critics, non profit organizations, and individuals connected to Jordan Belfort himself.

(insert Peta part here:) ---> In December 2013, before the film's premiere, the organization Friends of Animals criticized the use of the chimpanzee and organized a boycott of the film. Variety reported, "Friends of Animals thinks the chimp ... suffered irreversible psychological damage after being forced to act."[56] The Guardian said, "Criticism of The Wolf of Wall Street's use of a chimpanzee arrives as Hollywood comes under ever-increasing scrutiny for its employment of animals on screen," referring to a November 2013 report in The Hollywood Reporter that was critical of the American Humane Association's treatment of animals in films.[55] PETA also launched a campaign to highlight mistreatment of ape "actors" and to petition for DiCaprio not to work with great apes.[57] <---

Margot Robbie:

Margot Robbie who plays Jordan Belfort’s wife Naomi, recalls in an interview with Porter magazine her extreme discomfort during a risque scene in front of 30 all male crew members. In this provocative scene which takes place in their baby’s nursery Robbie’s character Naomi seduces her husband by touching herself and calling him “Daddy”. In this interview, Robbie recalls that filming this scene was “weird” and “embarrassing” largely because she was in a small room filled with male crew members. She states that “It doesn't come across when you're watching the movie, but in reality we're in a tiny bedroom with 30 crew crammed in. All men. For 17 hours I'm pretending to be touching myself. It's just a very weird thing and you have to bury the embarrassment and the absurdity, really deep, and fully commit.”

Thematic Debate:

The five time Academy Award nominated film has been praised by many as a brilliant piece of cinematography and criticized by others as a materialistic catastrophe which glorifies and even encourages acts of selfishness, greed and indecency. With its controversial content and portrayal of infamous figures, The Wolf of Wall Street has met a volume of controversy. Various parties have discussed the film’s portrayal of greed, selfishness, and the nature of Wall Street itself.

On one side of the debate there are those like Nikole TenBrink, vice president of marketing and membership at Risk Insurance Management Society, who believe that the film is a “cautionary tale of what can happen when fraud is left unchecked.” She describes Belfort’s business acumen, his talent in communicating and selling his ideas, and his ability to motivate others as offering “valuable lessons for risk professionals as they seek to avoid similar pitfalls”.(Learning from the Wolf...) In an interview Josh Greenstein, Chief Marketing Officer of Paramount Pictures during the film’s release describes how they attempted to portray the film as a film about the “overreaching greed of the ‘80s. He goes on to argue that “everything in this film is still applicable to what is going on today, where people are in life and how they’re feeling about the world.”

On the other side there are those who believe the film glorifies and encourages greed, extreme wealth, and the infamous individuals portrayed in the movie. Christina McDowell, whose father, Tom Prousalis, worked in association with Jordan Belfort accused the filmmakers of “exacerbating our national obsession with wealth and status and glorifying greed and psychopathic behavior.” She continues to emphasize the gravity and timely significance of Belfort’s crimes stating that Wolf of Wall Street is a "reckless attempt at continuing to pretend that these sorts of schemes are entertaining, even as the country is reeling from yet another round of Wall Street scandals".(Wolf… Christina Mc…) In response to Leonardo Dicaprio defending himself from criticism, Variety journalist Whitney Friedlander describes the movie as “still three hours of cash, drugs, hookers, repeat”. Friedlander argues that the film is a “celebration of this lifestyle” and preaches that short lived extreme wealth and extraordinary experiences are superior to a societally normal behavior. (Does Wolf of…)

Wolf of Wall Street Article Final Draft
The Wolf of Wall Street has been a highly controversial film both in regards to its production, profanity, and underlying thematic interpretation. The film has sparked outrage and debates from critics, non profit organizations, and individuals connected to Jordan Belfort himself.

Use of Animals
- My additions are in Bold, I also deleted and made much of this more comprehensible

In December 2013, prior to the film's premiere, the organization Friends of Animals criticized the use of the chimpanzee and organized a boycott of the film. Variety reported, "Friends of Animals thinks the chimp ... suffered irreversible psychological damage after being forced to act."[56] The Guardian commented on the increasing criticism of Hollywoods use of animals stating that "The Wolf of Wall Street's use of a chimpanzee arrives as Hollywood comes under ever-increasing scrutiny for its employment of animals on screen". PETA also launched a campaign to highlight mistreatment of ape "actors" and to petition for DiCaprio not to work with great apes.[57]

Margot Robbie
- All content is new

In an interview with Porter Magazine, Margot Robbie, who plays Jordan Belfort's wife Naomi, recalls her extreme discomfort during a risque scene in front of 30 all male crew members. In the film's provocative scene which takes place in their baby’s nursery Robbie’s character Naomi seduces her husband by touching herself and calling him “Daddy” to exert control over him. In this interview, Robbie recalls that filming this science was “weird” and “embarrassing” stating that that “It doesn't come across when you're watching the movie, but in reality we're in a tiny bedroom with 30 crew crammed in. All men. For 17 hours I'm pretending to be touching myself. It's just a very weird thing and you have to bury the embarrassment and the absurdity, really deep, and fully commit.”

Thematic Debate
- All content is new

Various scholars and individuals have criticized the film as materialistic, encouraging greedy behavior, extreme wealth, and advocating for the infamous individuals portrayed in the movie. Christina McDowell, whose father, Tom Prousalis, worked in association with Jordan Belfort accused the filmmakers of “exacerbating our national obsession with wealth and status and glorifying greed and psychopathic behavior.” She continues to emphasize the gravity and timely significance of Belfort’s crimes stating that Wolf of Wall Street is a "reckless attempt at continuing to pretend that these sorts of schemes are entertaining, even as the country is reeling from yet another round of Wall Street scandals".(Wolf… Christina Mc…) In response to Leonardo Dicaprio defending himself from criticism, Variety journalist Whitney Friedlander describes the movie as “still three hours of cash, drugs, hookers, repeat”. Friedlander argues that the film is a “celebration of this lifestyle” and preaches that short lived extreme wealth and extraordinary experiences are superior to a societally normal behavior. (Does Wolf of…)

There are also those like Nikole TenBrink, vice president of marketing and membership at Risk Insurance Management Society, who believe that the film is a “cautionary tale of what can happen when fraud is left unchecked.” She describes Belfort’s business acumen, his talent in communicating and selling his ideas, and his ability to motivate others as offering “valuable lessons for risk professionals as they seek to avoid similar pitfalls”.(Learning from the Wolf...) In an interview Josh Greenstein, Chief Marketing Officer of Paramount Pictures during the film’s release, he depicts how Paramount Pictures and his marketing team attempted to portray the film as a film about the “overreaching greed of the ‘80s. Greenstein proceeds to argue that “everything in this film is still applicable to what is going on today, where people are in life and how they’re feeling about the world.”

Jordan Belfort's Reception of the Film's Portrayal of Himself and Stratton Oakmont
- all content is new

In an interview on London Real with former former Wall Street banker and millionaire Brian Rose, Jordan Belfort commented on the film’s depiction of himself and of Stratton Oakmont. In this interview, Belfort mentions that the film did an excellent job at describing the “overall feeling of the movie” stating that “the comradery, the insanity was all accurate.” Regarding his use of drugs, Belfort mentions that his actual habits were “much worse” than that of the film explicitly stating that he was “on 22 different drugs at the end.”

Belfort also analyzes the major inaccuracies regarding the films oversimplification of Stratton Oakmont’s gradual transition from advocating for “speculative stocks” in order to “help build America” to increasingly senseless and greedy crimes. During the interview, Belfort expresses that he “didn’t like hearing” overly simplified and blunt depictions of his crimes because “it made me look like I was just trying to rip people off.” While unhappy with these practices, Belfort does acknowledge the cinematic benefits of these oversimplifications as “a very easy way in three hours” to “move the audience emotionally.”

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Advanced general studies learning group

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School of Advanced General Studies Learning Group

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 * The AGS Learning Group is concerned with Advanced Thought in Simultaneously a Wide Range of Endeavors.

AGSLG Goals

 * The AGS Learning Group seeks to engage in learning activities to enable Advanced Thinkers to bootstrap, providing a springboard to constantly and continually higher and higher "advanced" understandings thus transforming Data into Information, Information into Knowledge, Knowledge into Understanding, and Understanding into Wisdom more quickly than would have otherwise been possible, thereby expanding and applying Advanced Thought in all areas.

 * Of course, not all Data contains Information, not all Information contains Knowledge, and not all Knowledge contains Wisdom. The Learning Group seeks to tease out the Wisdom from the Knowledge, the Knowledge from the Information, and the Information from the Data.  The Page "Information Management Using Open Source" includes Understanding between Knowledge and Wisdom, a part of the series so useful that the Learning Group will add it to the Work.  For now, we will refrain from suggesting that "Not all Knowledge contains Understanding." as we are now compelled to consider the relationships between Knowledge, Understanding, and Wisdom.

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 * The AGS Learning Group is involved in collaborative writing based on readings chosen by consensus. In this way the Group seeks to understand the material it undertakes, providing a springboard for those who later arrive to rapid acquire the "advanced" understanding which the Group is able to achieve.  Thus the collaborative work of the Group guides Participants who follow to transform Data into Information, Information into Knowledge, and Knowledge into Wisdom more quickly than would have otherwise been possible.  Thereby we expand and apply Thought to the constant and continual improvement of the Wikiversity, of Wikipedia Articles, to the writing of Wikibooks.

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AGSLG a Wikiversity Learning Group

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If you decide to change your behavior, your contributions will be greatly appreciated- regardless of what your previous behavior was.

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Optics/Refraction

Refraction is the change in direction and phase velocity of a wave due to a change in the medium in which the wave is traveling. A wave which undergoes this phenomenon is said to have been refracted. This phenomenon is most commonly observed when a wave passes from one medium to another at any angle other than 90° or 0°. Refraction is described by Snell's law (also known as the Snell–Descartes law and the law of refraction), which states that for a given pair of media and a wave with a single frequency, the ratio of the sines of the angle of incidence $$\theta_1$$ and angle of refraction $$\theta_2$$ is equivalent to the ratio of phase velocities $$v_1 \over v_2$$ in the two media, or equivalently, to the opposite ratio of the indices of refraction $$n_2 \over n_1$$:
 * $$\frac{\sin\theta_1}{\sin\theta_2} = \frac{v_1}{v_2} = \frac{n_2}{n_1} .$$

When a wave travels across an interface and into a medium with a higher index of refraction, the wave bends towards the normal. If a wave travels across an interface and into a lower index of refraction, the wave bends away from the normal. If a wave travels across an interface and into a medium with the same index of refraction, the direction of the wave's propagation does not change. The two most common indices of refraction used when first exploring the topic of refraction are air ($$n=1.00029$$) and water ($$n=1.33$$). To simplify calculations, the index of refraction of air is typically approximated to be $$n=1.00$$ (which is actually the index of refraction of a vacuum).

As the angle of incidence increases, the angle of refraction also increases. There comes a point in which the angle of refraction is 90° and means that the wave refracts parallel to the interface. This angle is called the critical angle and for angles greater than or equal to the critical angle, refraction does not take place and all of the light is reflected; this phenomenon is called total internal reflection and will be covered in the next section.

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Tamil/Introduction

Tamil is the oldest of the Dravidian languages. Along with Chinese, Greek, Sanskrit and others, it is one of the world's classical languages. Tamil literature spans 4000 years. This language was the first to develop a distinct prose form of writing among the classical languages of the world. Tamil is the only language among the old languages that has a history of 2000 or more years of existence. With slight variation in scripts and usage, the language still thrives. The literatures written in 200 BC are still learnt and used in normal speeches. The Tamil Thirukkural is second only to the Bible in number of published translations. Over the course of the language's development, many words from other languages have been absorbed. For instance, Tamil spoken in Tamil Nadu has a significant number of words from Sanskrit, English, Dutch, French and Urdu.

The letter 'ழ' of 'தமிழ்' (Tamil) is pronounced like a retroflex 'r', and is often transliterated as "zh".

Local usages of Tamil vary. There are differences in its usage not only among countries but even within Tamil Nadu, a region of India where Tamil is the predominantly spoken language.

Tamil is one of the recognized languages for official correspondence in four countries viz, India, Sri Lanka, Singapore and Malaysia. In both Canada and Myanmar, the Tamil speaking population is about one million. There are about 80 million Tamil speakers worldwide.

Tamil is a Dravidian language, like most south Indian languages. Other Dravidian languages include Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam and Tulu.

History
Tamil's origins are independent of Sanskrit (which is from the Indo-European language family and the ancestor of many Indian languages), but it has been flexible in allowing other languages to blend in seamlessly giving the non-speaker a sense of ease while trying to learn the language. This is one of the specialties of the language since it does not modify the structural integrity of the language. The oldest Tamil text Tolkaappiyam is a grammar of Tamil.

Quite significantly for its age, Tamil seems to have undergone minimal changes and adaptations over the years. Classical Tamil is quite comprehensible to speakers of the modern language. The ancient Tamil book Tirukkural is an example. The verses from the book are often taught to young students of the language at the primary level, and they pick up the lines in the ancient dialect with little difficulty.

Tamil Literature
Tamil literature is literature in the Tamil language which most prominently includes the contributions of the historic Tamil country or Tamizhagam, a large part of which constitutes the modern state of Tamil Nadu in India. Because of the antiquity of the Tamil language, Tamil literature has a rich tradition spanning more than 5000 years and is particularly famous for its poetic tradition as well as for its epics, philosophical works and secular flavour.

The works of the Sangam period, known as Sangam literature, at the turn of the first millennium are the most ancient and considered very important. The word Sangam refers to an academy. Tolkaappiyam, Akananaru and Purananaru are important works from this period.

In the post-Sangam period, there were many notable works. Silapadhigaaram by Ilangovadigal tells the tale of Kannagi, Kovalan and Maadhavi. Thirukkural by Thiruvalluvar consists of 1330 couplets which discuss about various aspects of life and is widely known even today. Aathichoodi, a collection of single-line sayings was written by Auvaiyaar, a young poetess who became prematurely old according to folklore. The first word in each saying is based on alphabetical order. Kambaramayanam was a version of the Ramayana by the poet Kamban (Kambar). Periya puranaam, Divya Prabhandham ,Thiruppavai, Thiruvempaavai and Dhevaaram were written in the Bhakti cult. Manimegalai, Seevaga sindhamani, Valayaapathi, Kundalakesi are other important works.

In the modern period, the works of poet Subramanya Bharathy, (better known as Bharathiar) who was also a great freedom fighter, are particularly stimulating in their progressive themes- emancipation of women, freedom, etc.,

As far as modern fiction is concerned, Prathapa Mudaliar Charithram was the first novel in Tamil.

In the early twentieth century, Kalki Krishnamurthy is one of the most renowned and respected writers. Sivagamiyin Sabhadham and Ponniyin Selvan constitute some of his greatest works, both based on historical themes.

Some famous contemporary writers include Pudhumaipiththan, Jayakanthan, Thi. Janakiraman, La.Sa.Ramamrutham, Sujatha, Jayamohan, and S.Ramakrishnan.

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Laurentius Abstemius

Laurentius Abstemius (c. 1440–1508; modern Lorenzo Astemio), born Lorenzo Bevilaqua, was an Italian writer and professor of philology, born at Macerata in Ancona; his learned name Abstemius, literally "abstemious", plays on his family name of Bevilaqua ("drinkwater"). A Neo-Latin writer of considerable talents at the time of the Humanist revival of letters, his first published works appeared in the 1470s and were distinguished by minute scholarship. During that decade he moved to Urbino and became ducal librarian, although he was to move between there and other parts of Italy thereafter as a teacher.

The work for which he is principally remembered now is Hecatomythium (1495), a collection of a hundred fables written in Latin and largely of his own invention. However, the inclusion together with this work of the thirty-three Aesopic fables translated from the Greek by Lorenzo Valla gave the impression that his own work was of the same kind. Several of the fables of Abstemius, it is true, relate to Aesop's in various ways, either as variations on his, as in the case of De culice cibum et hospitium ab appetente (94), which is told of a gnat and a bee but relates to The Ant and the Grasshopper; or in the case of De leone et mure (52) it provides a sequel to The Lion and the Mouse, in which the mouse asks for the lion's daughter as a reward for freeing him from the net and is stepped on accidentally by the bride.

Still other fables, in the Aesopic manner, provide a frame for proverbs: for example 'Still waters run deep' (De rustico amnem transituro, 5) and 'The worse the wheel, the more it creaks' (De auriga et rota currus stridente, 84). But some quarter of Abstemius' stories belong to the genre of comic anecdotes associated with Poggio Bracciolini and known as Facetiae. One at least, De vidua virum petente (the widow seeking a husband, 31), borrows directly from the collection of Poggio. A few of these sorts of fable particularly were condemned as ludicrous and licentiously critical of the clergy and the work was added to the Vatican index of forbidden books. Abstemius later wrote a further 97 fables in a less extreme vein, Hecatomythium Secundum, published in Fano in 1505.

The fables of Abstemius were frequently reprinted in their own right, as well as added to other collections of Aesopic material, during the 16th century. In particular they can be found annexed to an edition of Aesop's Fables, published in eight volumes at Frankfurt in 1580, and were later translated very idiomatically by Roger L'Estrange in his Fables of Aesop and Other Eminent Mythologists (1692). Translated into French as Hécatomythium ou les fables de Laurent Abstemius traduit du latin (Orléans, 1572), they were the source for several in the later books of La Fontaine's Fables, including "The Vultures and the Pigeons” (VII.8), “Death and the Dying Man” (VIII.1) and “The Women and the Secret” (VIII.6).

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alen J. Salerian

The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:42, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Alen J. Salerian

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I began vetting the article for compliance with WP:BLP and found myself deleting the entire page, with the exception of a WP:ONEEVENT. Almost everything in the article was cited to primary sources, court records, gossip/alternative magazines like the Washingtonian, brief mentions, or sources that do not even mention Salerian. I'm not sure how to categorize this source. The remaining sources that were reliable often had just 1 paragraph on him or were blurbs from a press release and nothing in-depth.

You can see the article before my trimming here for reference.

The only event Salerian is known for is being indicted for prescribing pain pills to drug dealers. First this appears to potentially be related to psychological or mental problems, making the article rather insensitive. Second, It appears to be a very minor news item, attracting few readers here and being of little importance to an encyclopedia. Third, there's WP:ONEEVENT; there is no way to create a full biographical profile here using BLP-compliant sources.

This article serves a tremendous opportunity to harm and embarrass a living person and no meaningful benefit to Wikipedia. I will ask the article-subject to confirm BLPREQUESTDELETE as well. CorporateM (Talk) 02:34, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions.  Everymorning   talk  03:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Maryland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington, D.C.-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

 * lol, The Washingtonian is definitely a legitimate source.
 * Alen Salerian is notable. Here's why: he worked for the FBI, received a lot of news coverage about his dealings with Robert Hanssen (Salerian appeared as a psychiatric expert on 48 Hours where he allegedly violated doctor-patient confidentiality), regularly appeared on Channel 9 for years as a psychiatric expert, wrote op-eds that were published in many newspapers such as USA Today and the Washington Post (which CorporateM deleted from Salerian's Wikipedia article).
 * Please read this story as to why Salerian is notable: The Spectacular Unraveling of Washington’s Favorite Shrink (this article also includes the information I've listed above) <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 21:32, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Op-eds cannot be used as sources under any circumstance, with the very rare exception that the op-ed received secondary coverage and is being used as a primary source to supplement secondary ones. The article-subject's own publication of material is also not relevant, since we need credible, independent sources authored by professional journalists and academics as oppose to the article-subject.

 * The Washingtonian is at least partially based on crowd-sourced stories submitted to the publication. You can see their submission guidelines here. This story appears to be one such case where the article was submitted, since the author has written less than a dozen articles for the publication. Furthermore, their submission guidelines say that they are interested in almost any topic and that you don't have to be a professional journalist to submit. This is a common problem with many publications that embrace citizen journalism. I had this problem recently where a local publication was publishing attack pieces on a politician, without disclosing that they were crowd-sourced articles. Generally speaking any guest-written content in a news publication cannot be used. CorporateM (Talk) 21:56, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * That's ridiculous. I strongly disagree with you. Ariel Sabar is a professional journalist and writer.
 * "Op-eds cannot be used as sources under any circumstance" What does that have to do with this? <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 23:33, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Delete At best this is one event. That he wrote op-eds tells us nothing. Writing op-eds does not make one notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:36, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * What is the one event? His association with the Robert Hanssen case or his arrest? <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 01:03, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Delete Neither writing op eds, nor being an expert witness, nor the combination of the two, make someone notable under wp:GNG. BakerStMD T|C 19:21, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Delete I researched this physician. He apparently has a long successful career that is not mentioned here. I agree that the article has no merit as main source. This just happened to be a hot topic. An encyclopedia is not a place for political debates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Corpwell (talk • contribs) 16:42, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note:, , and  have very similar editing histories. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 23:59, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


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rimbalzare

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to bounce (off)
 * 2) to rebound (from)
 * 3) to ricochet (off)

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