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Talk:Morus rubra

Morus Rubra (Asian)
This plant is not native to N. America. In fact no true mulberry plants or trees are native to the Americas. This article is part of a major error situation on most Morus entries in Wikipedia. Slowly researchers are finding the errors, but quotes from random sites that are not authoritive are cause for many of the issues. Yes Red Mulberry was an early invasive species brought from Asia, & so many people do consider it as American, the quotes about Native Americans using it...ugh. Wikipedia quotes this url; http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=233500782 As a source of N. American NATIVE proof, that is a Chinese source, China is where most Mulberry came from. Slowly most claims on various Morus forms to Americas are being removed, but Wikipedia seems to acknowledge the error by deleting the whole entries, so the name of the plant goes red with no entry. Please review all Morus articles, as many are very dangerous plants and telling various species from each other is difficult, use of the wrong Mulberry species as a medicine, when misidentified can lead to rapid death. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 00:55, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * FNA is not a "chinese source". This page explains what it is: . I have never seen a reliable source claiming red mulberry (Morus rubra) was not native. Every source I've consulted, including the USDA, BONAP, and many articles in the primary literature, discuss it as native. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 15:56, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You haven't convinced me. Try reading the English accounts and field reports from 1607 when they first landed in Virginia. They found it all over the place, and found the Powhatans utilizing it as mentioned. We have detailed writings from colonial botanists like Banister long before any plants could have been feasably imported from China.  So what's up? Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 01:22, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Other botanists are coming around to realize that all True Morus did not exist In North America, I have heard so many arguments about all the plants linked as being Morus, and much about whether many plants should not be called Morus at all, so I can't expect to convince anyone of anything about these disputed plants aside from certain genetic data that is coming out, which may settle some of these issues. You mentioned Banister, in his own writings before coming to North America he wrote several papers on the plants from England. He talked of the numbers of Morus Ruba in England, In fact he had one in his front yard. In those writings before coming to America he attributed Morus Ruba as being imported into England from Asia centuries before he was born. Records do show Morus ruba as having been introduced in Ireland and England before Europe "discovered" America. Morus Ruba was very likely introduced by early settlers from Europe. Even now the Majority of this plant in the wild is in Eastern North America, although it has been shown to be able to thrive in most of America. The geological spread does seem to indicate starting to spread from Eastern coast of the US and expanding westward. If Europeans did introduce this plant, that does not take away from the fact that it's "roots" were from Asia. The White Mulberry of course now is causing a decline in the Red, and that plant is of major concern. I am concerned aside from truth, that both of these trees have had a negative impact on the native plants of N. America. NOTE: I do not edit main entries in Wikipedia, so what I am presenting is only for Wikipedia Editors to consider and review, if an editor researches this data and finds need for change, they can do it. Wikipedia is not my hobby.

<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 05:43, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

 * I don't think it likely that the English introduced the plant, because literally on their first arrival in May 1607, the native Powhatan are recorded to have feasted them with baskets full of the mulberries, which they already had a native term for in their own language. This is the plant Banister describes. But at any rate, the way it works here is, if you find a published source outlining your view of the matter, it can be accomodated in the article. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 05:51, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Unfortunately the US Genetic studies working on this lost their funding, multiple international efforts are underway to ban international movement of several Morus plants due to health issues, wish I had a link on that, but I had no luck as I just reviewed International Health Organizations. Maybe someone will review this some day & find the data. Also to not cause confusion, while Banister was from England, other European nations had also imported this plant from Asia and so the spreading of this into N. America could have included many nations, not just England.

<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 19:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The Spanish did evidently make contact with the Powhatan as early as 1559 (Ajacan), however the notion that they introduced mulberries to them at this time sounds like Original Research. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 19:56, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

 * I have contacted the Primary Investigator concerning the newest Morus research that had it's funding cut, asking him to add data here, he will not release that data due to lack of peer revue, but I know from prior discussions with him and 2 other researchers on the project that as least part of the reason the data will not be released is due to federal funding and oversight that disliked certain results on other Plants Morus related. This issue of Morus Rubra native home is not part of the controversial results of the research but he notes that other genetic research had already confirmed that the Asian & N. American plants of this plant were identical except for the occasional hybrid. I guess the question becomes which is most likely, did this plant start in East America or in Asia? :) If it started in America then it is very curious why it is not native to western areas of America as fast as it spreads. Although I would admit that I would have expected any movement of the plant to have happened long ago when there was said to be a land bridge to Alaska, except that too would have left western America having Morus Rubra a plenty. Alas logic may not supply the answer, finding an object in a cave in America that had been carved from Red Mulberry by native Americans 1,000 years ago would help prove one or the other. But what I have described here is not proof without someone finding the old research that was done on this genetic relationship, but the native home is not really proved, any more than the coincidence that all 3 locations I mentioned here- Alaska-Asia-America all start and end with the letter A.
 * This entire thread is hilarious, Morus rubra isn't even found in china. I'd love to see the research proving that it was somehow extirpated from china. Wasp32 (talk) 00:02, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Mis-ID'ed photo

The photo above, which is used as the main photo for this article, looks to be misidentified, it looks like a white mulberry to me. Note the blunt-tipped leaves (red mulberry is long-acuminate), short fruit (red mulberry is longer), clustered fruit (red mulberry is usually borne singly.)

I am going to remove this from the article. No photo is better than a mis-ID'ed photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 15:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I doubted that it was Morus rubra in the photo. Glad to have it confirmed by someone who seems more familiar with the species (which I've never seen in person). — Eru·tuon 19:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Misuse of dioecious and monoecious
"If cultivated for fruits, male and female plants must be grown, if a monoecious variety is chosen. However, there are also dioecious varieties."

I believe the terms are being used in reverse of what they mean, as a monoecious variety contains both male and female parts whereas dioecious would have the requirement of both a male and a female plant for fruit. 2600:4040:5209:E600:74C2:652E:81E0:C0C0 (talk) 18:50, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

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Kieran Freeman

Kieran Ewan Freeman (born 20 March 2000) is a Scottish professional footballer who plays as a right-back for club Raith Rovers.

Club
A product of the Scottish Football Association's Performance School based at St John's Roman Catholic High School in Dundee, Freeman played for Dundee United at youth level before leaving in July 2016, aged 16, to sign his first professional contract with Premier League club Southampton. He suffered three serious injuries in his first two years at Southampton, but was offered a new short-term contract by the club at the end of the 2018–19 season.

Following the expiry of his Southampton contract, Freeman returned to Dundee United on trial in January 2020 and was subsequently offered a contract until the end of the 2019–20 season. In May 2020, he signed a two-year contract extension. He made his senior debut on 15 August 2020, in Dundee United's 2–1 Scottish Premiership win away to Ross County. Freeman joined Scottish League One club Peterhead on a season-long loan in September 2020, but after making 14 appearances his loan was cut short in January 2021 when the lower divisions were suspended due to the COVID-19 pandemic. He returned on loan to Peterhead in March 2021, after the suspension was lifted.

Freeman scored his first goal for Dundee United on 14 July 2021, in a 6–1 win over Elgin City in the Scottish League Cup. Given a run of regular starting appearances due to Liam Smith being out injured, he scored his first league goal in a 3-0 win over Hibernian at Easter Road in October 2021, and subsequently extended his contract by a further two years.

On 21 February 2024, Freeman joined League of Ireland Premier Division club St Patrick's Athletic on a permanent basis. On 24 June 2024, it was announced that Freeman's contract had been terminated by mutual consent after 9 appearances with the club.

On 24 June 2024, it was announced that he had signed for Scottish Championship club Raith Rovers.

International
Freeman represented Scotland at under-15 and under-16 international level in 2014. In 2022 he was called up to the under-21 squad for European Championship Qualifiers against Belgium and Denmark, playing in both games.

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Talk:Dee Dee Myers

Previous discussion without headers
This article seems particularly biased. Obviously Myers' drunk driving arrest is notable enough to include, but the primary picture in the article looks something like a mug shot, which is beneath a former WH Press Secretary. <IP_ADDRESS> 04:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

DUI charge
Is that really necessary? <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 04:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I argue that a single DUI charge isn't notable, unless the incident precipitated other significant events. I'm removing text related to the DUI charge from the main article.--Biggus Dictus (talk) 04:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I think this article fails to paint the entire picture of her life. The DUI charge helps a reader understand her job history, if nothing else. Think without the DUI charge, the article is biased. Dallenva (talk) 13:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I was told about her problems, which I would otherwise never have known of by reading this article. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 07:51, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm removing this content, again "The DUI note clearly fails WP:HARM#TEST. It does not carry due weight relative to subject's notability. WP:UNDUE" --Biggus Dictus (talk) 00:28, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Cameo
At IMDB she is credited with a cameo "as herself" in Contact (film). --<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 05:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC) This woman is nothing but a joke as is (was) her career and Bill Clinton. Hide as much as possible but make public all else on eveybody else!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 12:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Picture
Wow, is there no other public domain picture available other than a poorly lit shot of her in profile? <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 02:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Request consensus or comment for new draft
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I think any knowledgable editor who looks at the current version of this article will agree it is not very good. Contra BLP policy, there is almost no sourcing provided for the information in this article. There is also not very much information in this article, period. So I've prepared an alternative version of this article which I think should replace it, and it's visible in my user space here: User:WWB_Too/Dee_Dee_Myers.

This version intends to be more complete and encyclopedic, and is far better reinforced with reliable sources. Where possible I have used online sources, however I found quite a bit of good information in articles available in news databases that is not online. If anyone who reviews this has any specific questions about the sources or any of the facts included, I'm happy to respond.

Now, the reason I haven't replaced the current article with mine is the same reason I've placed an edit request on the article: I've undertaken this project on behalf of the firm where Ms. Myers works, Glover Park Group, so I'm mindful of following conflict of interest guidelines and the paid editing essay. In addition, I'll place a note about this article at COI/N shortly.

Also, per the question above from September of last year, I've been provided a publicity photo for which she owns the copyright, and my next goal will be to seek permission for its use via OTRS. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 15:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

 * Hats off to you for the approach you've taken. If no-one else picks up on this, I'll review the new article next Wednesday evening (UK time) and all being well, move it across. Sadly that's the next time I'll have any time free. --Tagishsimon (talk) 15:53, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

 * Thanks, Tagishsimon, it's very appreciated. I'll certainly be around next week to discuss any questions, if you have them. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 18:52, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

 * Following this discussion at WikiProject Biography, I have moved the new draft into place. If any questions, please contact me on my user Talk page. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 18:35, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * So, apologies, I come late to the party. It's a good factual & well referenced article without hyperbole. Thanks for contributing it. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:14, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This article is much improved after recent edits. One note: this passage, "According to the Detroit Free Press, Myers earned a reputation for her "humour and patience" in handling the White House press corps, often delivering "quick one-liners" while issuing daily press briefings.[10] Until September 1994, when she was given the rank of Assistant to the President,[11] she held the lesser title of "deputy assistant" and had a lower salary than previous White House Press Secretaries.[12] She also lacked consistent access to Clinton's inner circle.[13] This was frequently noted in news coverage about Myers throughout her term,[1][13] and is addressed in her 2008 book, Why Women Should Rule The World.[14]" comes off a little like a sales pitch for the book, and does not strike me as neutral (though it is well-substantiated). Just my opinion. --Biggus Dictus (talk) 07:44, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Hi Biggus, any alternate suggestion for a change to the wording? Seems OK to me (but then, I wrote it) so if you have an idea in mind for another way, give it a try. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 04:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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This article notes she now works for Warner Bros. and has moved to LA so perhaps someone could update the article.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  14:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

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Godava

Godava is a 2007 Telugu-language film directed by A. Kodandarami Reddy and stars his son Vaibhav and Shraddha Arya in the lead roles alongside Sayaji Shinde who plays a supporting role. This film marks the film debut of Reddy and the Telugu film debut of Arya.

Plot
To avoid marriage, Anjali gets into a fake relationship with her collegemate Balu.

Cast

 * Vaibhav as Balu
 * Shraddha Arya as Anjali
 * Sayaji Shinde as Anjali's father
 * Chalapathi Rao as Balu's father
 * Delhi Rajeshwari as Balu's mother
 * Annapoorna as Anjali's grandmother
 * Brahmanandam as College Principal
 * Sunil as Train Ticket Collector
 * Ashwini as Anjali's friend
 * Chitram Seenu as Balu's friend
 * Babloo as Balu's friend
 * AVS as Temple Priest
 * Venu Madhav
 * Jaya Prakash Reddy as Anjali's grandfather
 * Raghu Babu as Police Sub-Inspector
 * M. S. Narayana as Train Passenger
 * Raghunatha Reddy as Superintendent of Police
 * Gundu Sudarshan as Porter
 * Dhanraj as Balu's friend
 * Venu Yeldandi as College Student
 * Thagubothu Ramesh
 * Uttej as Lawyer
 * Shankar Melkote as Suzy's father
 * Nagendra Babu as the Chief Guest for Youth Festival (cameo appearance)
 * Zabyn Khan as an item number in "Current Kastha"

Production
Due to the fact that the lead actor's real name, Sumanth, was already the name of an established actor, Kodandarami Reddy asked Chiranjeevi to pick a name from a list of ten names that Reddy had selected for his son. Chiranjeevi picked out the name Vaibhav from the list to be Sumanth Reddy's stage name. The filming was completed in September 2007.

Soundtrack
Soundtrack was composed by Mani Sharma. The audio was launched on 10 September 2007. The songs were shot Bangkok, Malaysia and Visakhapatnam. Balakrishna attended the audio launch as a chief guest.
 * "Evaro Nuvva" - Ranjith, Kalyani
 * "Current Kastha" - Rita
 * "Mounamlo" - N. C. Karunya
 * "Okkasaari" - Rahul, Sunitha
 * "Hutch Phone" - KK, Deepa, Kousalya

Release
The film was released on 7 December along with Sivaji-starrer State Rowdy. The film was released with 31 prints. The film released to negative reviews. Rediff gave the film a rating of one out of five stars and noted that "The motive behind such films is nothing but an excuse to showcase the wannabe star's dancing prowess and action shots". This film was later dubbed in Hindi as Rowdy Bodyguard: A Powerful Man (2014).

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Cookbook talk:Chapati

This recipe was featured on the main Cookbook page from April 18, 2004 - April 28, 2004.
 * Hmmm I forgot to check to see if this had been featured before featuring it today (April 28, 2008). Someone can revert or change the feature if they like. Wikidsoup (talk) 18:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

How round was my roti?
Every Indian woman I've ever known (and some men) have said that achievement of a perfectly round roti is part of every domestic goddess's repertoire.

Someone might want to add the to this page that chapati is also a staple of many East African diets. It is undoubtedly part of the Southeast Asian influence on this area of East Africa because of the slave trade that extended through this corridor, but it has become a very common part of the diet there as well. There are many women who derive their income from "chai and chapati" trades out of their homes or out of small shacks alongside the road. Many a village in Tanzania has at least a couple of mamas whom everyone knows they can get chapati throughout the day. It is called chapati in the Swahili language as well. I think this would be an appropriate inclusion in the article, but do not know how to add it myself. -jl

So I am Indian and most certainly a chapati is not the same thing as a roti. To the best of my knowledge, chapatis are more common in Western India, in the Maharashtra-Gujarat-Karnataka region (this is where I am from), while rotis are common in North India and Pakistan. The preparation methods of chapatis and rotis differ and so does their taste. I will post recipes asap, but in the mean time, if someone else has them, please post! - Sarang (my email is my name at media.mit.edu)

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Modestas Vorobjovas

Modestas Vorobjovas (born 30 December 1995) is a Lithuanian professional footballer who plays as a midfielder for Süper Lig club İstanbulspor and the Lithuania national team.

International career
Vorobjovas made his international debut for Lithuania in 2018.

International goals

 * Scores and results list Lithuania's goal tally first.

Honours
Šiauliai
 * Lithuanian Cup runner-up: 2012–13

Trakai
 * A Lyga runner-up: 2016
 * Lithuanian Cup runner-up: 2015–16

Žalgiris
 * A Lyga: 2020
 * Lithuanian Supercup: 2020

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Northern Ireland national football team results (1900–1929)

The Northern Ireland national football team represents Northern Ireland in international association football. From 1882 to 1921 all of Ireland was represented by a single side, the Ireland national football team, organised by the Irish Football Association (IFA).

In 1920 Ireland was partitioned into Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland. In 1922, The south of Ireland gained independence as the Irish Free State, later to become Republic of Ireland. Amid these political upheavals, a rival football association, the Football Association of Ireland (the F.A.I.), emerged in Dublin in 1921 and organised a separate league and later a national team. In 1923, during a period when the home nations had dis-affiliated from the governing body, the FAI was recognised by FIFA as the governing body of the Irish Free State on the condition that it changed its name to the Football Association of the Irish Free State. At the same time, the IFA continued to organise its national team on an all-Ireland basis, regularly calling up Free State players. During this era at least one Northerner, Harry Chatton, also played for the Irish Free State and from 1936, the FAI began to organise their own all–Ireland team. Both teams now competed as Ireland and during this era at least 39 dual internationals were selected to represent both teams. Between 1928 and 1946 the IFA were not affiliated to FIFA and the two Ireland teams co-existed, never competing in the same competition.

In April 1951, FIFA decreed that the IFA team could not select "citizens of Eire". An exception was for British Home Championship games, as a 1923 IFAB agreement at Liverpool prevented FIFA intervention in relations between the four Home Nations. However, the exception would only apply "if the F.A. of Ireland do not object", and was never availed of.

At FIFA's 1953 congress, its Rule 3 was amended so that an international team must use "that title ... recognised politically and geographically of the countries or territories". The FAI initially claimed Rule 3 gave them the right to the name Ireland (see names of the Irish state), but FIFA subsequently ruled neither team could be referred to as Ireland, decreeing that the FAI team be officially designated as the Republic of Ireland, while the IFA team was to become Northern Ireland. The IFA objected and in 1954 was permitted to continue using the name Ireland in Home Internationals, based on the 1923 agreement. This practice was discontinued in the late 1970s.

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diœcious

Adjective

 * 1) * 1878: George Bentham, Handbook of the British flora, p415 (Brook)
 * Low, creeping, heath-like shrubs, with small, crowded, entire, evergreen, leaves, and minute, axillary, diœcious flowers.
 * 1) * 1927: Arthur Everett Shipley, Juan Rivera Reyes, J. Antonio Gil Conca, and Spain Servicio de Publicaciones Agrícolas, Desinfección y procedimientos higiénicoterapéuticos de los granos y sus…, volume 72, p302 (Ministerio de Fomento)
 * Scalibregma inflatum is diœcious, and not hermaphrodite, as described by Danielssen. The gonads are formed by proliferation of the cells covering the septum by which the nephrostome is attached to the body-wall.
 * 1) * 1927: Arthur Everett Shipley, Juan Rivera Reyes, J. Antonio Gil Conca, and Spain Servicio de Publicaciones Agrícolas, Desinfección y procedimientos higiénicoterapéuticos de los granos y sus…, volume 72, p302 (Ministerio de Fomento)
 * Scalibregma inflatum is diœcious, and not hermaphrodite, as described by Danielssen. The gonads are formed by proliferation of the cells covering the septum by which the nephrostome is attached to the body-wall.
 * 1) * 1927: Arthur Everett Shipley, Juan Rivera Reyes, J. Antonio Gil Conca, and Spain Servicio de Publicaciones Agrícolas, Desinfección y procedimientos higiénicoterapéuticos de los granos y sus…, volume 72, p302 (Ministerio de Fomento)
 * Scalibregma inflatum is diœcious, and not hermaphrodite, as described by Danielssen. The gonads are formed by proliferation of the cells covering the septum by which the nephrostome is attached to the body-wall.

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Talk:Edward Lloyd (16th-century MP)

(16th century MP) to (16th-century MP)
Would there be any objection to moving this article to Edward Lloyd (16th-century MP)? Since 16th and century are working together as a compound adjective before the noun MP, it should be hyphenated. Edward Lloyd (16th century MP) would remain as a redirect to the new title. If there's a consensus, or at least no objection, I'll make the move in about a week. Thank you. SchreiberBike (talk) 04:28, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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User:Ajordanflyboyswag/sandbox

Abdirahim Ali is a sideman. He thinks he is funny and he claims to have killed 16,000 people with his jokes. We all know this is not true. He cannot dunk and his hairline plays centre. He constantly wears his sisters Lonsdale Tracksuit and calls it SWAG. He is in awe of the greatest basketballer ever Abdullahi W.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Convention Hall (disambiguation)

The result was   delete. Nakon 01:19, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Convention Hall (disambiguation)

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I've deleted a bunch of partial matches, leaving two entries. I'm not even 100% certain the one in Enid qualifies, but if so, it could be handled by a hatnote in Convention Hall. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:13, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak support. I guess until more entries are found, that's fine. Through the convention hall which currently redirects there should be redirected to convention center. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:01, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I created this years ago because at one time, there were structures known as Convention Hall in many cities across the United States.  Just looking through this WP search will give you an idea of this, and there are even more historical ones that aren't in WP.  So I saw this growing into a page like Union Station.  But a) no one added entries to it as new articles about Convention Hall were added and b) if you strip out partial matches, as has now been done, there is no point.  (I hope no one strips the partial matches out of Union Station, because as it stands now that page does a great job of showing how pervasive that name became, in cities large and small, north and south.)  Wasted Time R (talk) 13:10, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Union Station is safe from my deletionist hands, as it is not a generic term like Convention Hall. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:14, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Comment Perhaps adding Convention center as a generic-term See Also? Note that Convention hall (small h) currently redirects here.  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 09:38, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Is it clear that the one with the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC name Convention Hall is indeed the primary and is always/commonly known simply as 'Convention Hall' and the others are not commonly known as 'Convention Hall'? Boleyn (talk) 09:49, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:34, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm wondering if, as brought up in a later, similar Afd, just renaming it List of convention halls might not be the best solution. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:54, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 06:22, 15 February 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Comment SIA, either at Convention Hall (by moving PT), or better at "List.." Widefox ; talk 22:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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Goodwill Easter Seals Miami Valley

Goodwill Easter Seals Miami Valley is a nonprofit organization serving the Miami Valley of Ohio with offices in Dayton and Lima. It provides services and support for individuals with disabilities and other disadvantages in achieving independence for a better quality of life. It was reported in 2010 that the organization had become "one of Dayton’s 25 fastest growing companies."

History
In 1934, it was started as Goodwill Industries of the Miami Valley. It focused on assisting people to live independently through job training and job placement services.

In 1999, it started working with the Easter Seals of West Central Ohio. In 2006 they officially merged into one organization.

Operations
The organization operates in a 23 county region, with more than 1,200 employees.

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Cookbook talk:Baba ganoush

ok, this is the first wiki-anything article i've written. does it look ok?

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hit Wave 82

The result was   delete. j⚛e deckertalk 03:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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Non notable albums. Fail WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG. There are no reliable sources that significantly discuss the albums. Vanjagenije (talk) 16:53, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 09:49, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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Talk:Lionel (radio personality)

Clean Up Tense Project
As the WOR Radio show concluded this evening, someone can go through and change all references to WOR to the past tense now. The final show for WOR aired tonight. I guess we'll have a vacation break from Lionel until his Air America launch on the 14th. -- --Wny 03:52, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Questions
"he quickly posted the biggest ratings in station history"

Does somebody have a source for the above?

My recollection is that when Lionel was at WFLA, he wasn't the highest-rated talk show host at WFLA until at least 1989, after Bob Lassiter left for Chicago. And that was a year after Lionel started at FLA, so just how quickly did he post the biggest ratings in station history (if in fact he did)? Msclguru 23:21, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Data from WFLA (AM)page that belongs here: Radio talk show host "Lionel" actually got his start at WFLA. He was a regular call in participant on a number of WFLA's shows in the 1980's and was subsequently invited to host his own talk show on WFLA as a result of impressing WFLA radio management. After his wildly successful stint in Tampa, he was hired by a radio station in the top US market, New York and his program ultimately syndicated. -- ∞Wirelain 02:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Why does someone keep deleting the section about Lionel's crew? Derm, Doob, and Juice were a HUGE part of the show!, and Dougatz, Miggs, and Pete are a huge part of the show now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 17:00, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Anybody know what happened to the original AAR crew? one day AL B was gone, then the rest.

A/V Sources???
What is one supposed to use for sources? Do we post links to audio clips stored in wikimedia? Would such audio clips be considered "fair use"? Jeh 02:33, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to know how to source something when it's a generality, across many episodes, such as theme music which was used for a while but no longer, or his signature sign off statement which is in all of his commentary-opinion videos, but not special appearances or interviews. ~  JasonCarswell   (talk)   04:08, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Quote In Search Engine Reveals Echo Chamber
I've searched but can't find the original source, other than all Lionel's sites, other site promotions of his appearances, and all YouTube pages. I'm assuming it was in print but not online or somehow archived unsearchable. I emailed Newsweek and hope they'll either cite it here or email it to me.
 * Newsweek described Lionel as “[a]n intellectual known for his irreverent political and social humor.”

~  JasonCarswell   (talk)   06:20, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

They emailed me back and I'm shocked to learn their archives only go back to 2013. ~  JasonCarswell   (talk)   21:45, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

The Corbett-Lionel Law
Can part of "The Corbett-Lionel Law" be restored? It got longer than it probably should have, but being so important I think that it's at least worth retaining a shorter version.

Also, if critical rational heads, Lionel and Sibel Edmonds have Wikipedia pages, James Corbett not only deserves a Wikipedia page (my draft was rejected) but to be included/accessible/promoted as much as anyone. ~  JasonCarswell   (talk)   21:58, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

"Alarmist"?
I stated that Lionel was an "unregulated cyber-surveillance and deep state alarmist" in the introductory paragraph but it was removed. I tried to keep the wording short. Looking at it now it could be taken negatively. It's mentioned in "Lionel's Law" but is it possible to include something regarding this important issue up there? ~  JasonCarswell   (talk)   22:46, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Pizza Rat & Chewbacca Mom
Lionel brilliantly and hilariously repeatedly references Pizza Rat and Chewbacca Mom, rather than call the ignorant distracted hypnotized masses "sheeple". I don't know how best to include this. ~  JasonCarswell   (talk)   22:47, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

 * It isn't the purpose of an article like this to document every witty thing the subject says, but rather to give the reader an overview. A good guideline for inclusion is whether a third party has mentioned it, e.g. in a review article. Individual items of article content don't have to be Wiki-notable (see WP:N), that is for article topics. But they should be significant with regard to the article subject. The rest should likely go on a fan page, maybe a Wikia page, where citation, notability, etc. requirements are practically nil. Jeh (talk) 21:57, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Fall 2016 modifications

 * 1) I moved so I've been away a bit but before that I uploaded a screengrab October 16 2016 which was taken down because it didn't have proper permissions.  It's a whole ordeal.  I don't have a photo or permission (yet).  I hope Lionel does it himself.
 * 2) November 8 2016 someone removed the following which is clearly relevant and prevalent in many of his rants, perhaps not in those exact words.  I've parked it here until he brings it up again so I can properly cite it.
 * Libertarian has all too often been coöpted by those espousing personal freedoms while ignoring many of the draconian and crypto-austerity features of Austrian School policies.
 * 1) User Boleyn has purged/censored Wikipedia of all James Corbett (journalist) links on this Lionel article, Sibel Edmonds, etc.  I don't know if it's because I re-submitted a draft article yesterday which will take 2-3 weeks to review, or because of the recent (fake) controversy about "fake news" and everything related to this Corbett Report video and dynamic comment sections on YouTube and here: https://www.corbettreport.com/what-i-learned-from-the-propornot-propaganda-list/ as well as the almost identical James Corbett article on Rational Wiki, where I posted it after being censored on Wikipedia where you can go on and on and on about Pokemon but not alternative "fringe" news that speaks truth about power.  I suspect that either reason sparked Boleyn to purge what were (temporarily) dead links (that I'll have to hunt down and re-link later).  ~   JasonCarswell   (talk)   12:08, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I'm not sure but I suspect, some of the quotes may have had specific YouTube videos and the times where he said them. (There is no mistake that he made them at some point on YouTube.) Those citations were either removed or were always missing - likely because I started the list but didn't initially think to cite them. Because this is not critical, I am not going looking for them, though I will add them as they come up in new material. ~  JasonCarswell   (talk)   16:12, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

 * I can't imagine why such citations would have been removed. But if they were, they'll be in the page history. Jeh (talk) 16:28, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Nice (and surprising) to see someone reads the talk pages. Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself.  In this case, I kind of was making a note, mostly to myself, to check back later because I was tired when I was adding a quote here and notes on Wikiquote.  In October and November I was doing other stuff and I know there were some improvements here, and if in fact something got canned, accidentally or not, that's likely when.  I will eventually check, possibly if/when I get more info back from the helpful Wikiquote people, possibly later.  It may just be my faulty memory.  I am certain I started the quotes list for myself without bothering to make citations, then it seemed like a good idea to add them, and document them better from then on.  ~   JasonCarswell   (talk)   21:45, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Fewer than 30 people watching this page or the article, so it's not surprising there isn't much response.
 * Note that per WP:V, any unsourced material can be challenged and removed. It's generally better to put work-in-progress-with-no-sources on the talk page. Jeh (talk) 21:52, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

 * If you don't mind me asking, why are you here (responding so quickly)? Are you a fan of Lionel, just a Wikipedia person, or are you watching my posts?  I don't mean to sound like I've got lots of fans.  I do mean to sound a little paranoid because I've got an article draft I worked hard on that they want to delete because it's got fringe stuff, plus they want to ban me from some topics, or worse, though I haven't bothered with fringe since August when I finally learned some rules and concepts.  Maybe this isn't the best place for this discussion though.  I can't tell anymore, they've got my head so spun around and paranoid now.  ~   JasonCarswell   (talk)   23:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

 * This must be a first - a complaint that I'm responding too quickly. I was a regular listener and sometime caller when he was syndicated from WOR; the AA show was at the wrong time for me. I'm not watching your posts, but I am watching the article here and this talk page. (And I am jetlagged out the wazoo from a recent trip, so don't try to make sense of the times of day when I edit!)

 * Re your edits - To be frank, I think you're trying to put too much WP:FANCRUFT in here. (Short definition: quotes and other info that other fans will enjoy finding and reading but which don't add encyclopedic value to the article. An extreme example from another milieu would be the compartment number of Captain Kirk's quarters on the Enterprise... or even which deck it was on. Even though it can be referenced by screen shots, it is not of any encyclopedic value. But the number of decks in each section of the ship might be of value, as it helps give a relatable sense of scale.)

 * An article overloaded with such will often be the target of what we call "deletionists", who will try to get the article deleted. If that fails (it usually does but it costs time and energy to fight it) they will pare the article down to only that which satisfies their most strict interpretations of WP:RS, WP:N, WP:V, etc. I don't want to see the article attacked and minimized in this way, so please read those policies carefully and edit accordingly. Look at WP:NOT while you're at it, especially WP:INFO. Thanks. Jeh (talk) 13:06, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the FANTASTIC info. It's patient folks like you who give me hope in Wikipedia.  I never heard of fancruft before but knew of it in a way.  Also, I too was getting concerned.  Lionel uses those quotes wonderfully, and I thought it was just a few regulars, but now he's adding more here and there.  I didn't want it to turn into a Wikiquote best of page, but I also didn't want to let them not be documented at least.  Also, I'm helping improve Wikiquote a bit every time.  As far as other fancruft, I don't know, I don't recall.

 * Considering how much of an overwhelming issue things like fancruft and fringe and such are to not only monitor but to limit, keep out, and deny, and how utterly backed up and hopelessly far behind, and how many people really want more than just a short article, I'm surprised they haven't found a compromise. Up there with the other tabs "Article" "Talk" "History" "Edit" etc, imagine if they had a "Other" or "Alternative" or "Fancruft" or "Fringe" tab for every history page, personality, or Star Trek episode.  Then again, it might be like putting a mullet on Wikipedia - "business up front, party in the back."  ~   JasonCarswell   (talk)   15:21, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Overhaul
I've removed a lot of promotional primary source based original research by and  (who, if not the subject himself, is too much of a fan to reasonably edit the article).

Of the sources left that possibly support notability, we have:
 * Talkers interview -- not quite independent of the subject
 * Talkers "Frontier Fifty" list (at 37) -- not significant coverage
 * Talkers "Heaviest Hundred" list (at 54) -- not significant coverage
 * New York Emmy's announcement -- not significant coverage, maybe qualifies for WP:ANYBIO point 1? We do have an article on the New York Emmy Awards.

Searching for additional sources, I didn't immediately find anything in news except for his articles on RT (TV network). If someone besides JasonCarswell and LionelY2K can find a profile page (not just a bunch of articles), we could cite that to point out that he writes for RT.

Searching books, I see he's mentioned in:
 * "Race-Baiter: How the Media Wields Dangerous Words to Divide a Nation" by Eric Deggans, Macmillan, 30 Oct 2012
 * "Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free" by Charles Pierce, Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group (Random House), 2 Jun 2009
 * "Us Against Them: The Political Culture of Talk Radio" by Randy Bobbitt, Lexington Books (Rowman & Littlefield), 25 May 2010

All of these are from academic publishers (Macmillan Publishers, Random House, Rowman & Littlefield). I'm reviewing them now.

Ian.thomson (talk) 02:42, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Deggens would support material like: (quote) "Longtime radio personality," and "practicing attorney turned radio host," "displeased with talk radio's shift to conservatism, even saying that Rush Limbaugh 'Destroyed it.'" That part of the book could be in-depth coverage of Limbaugh, but it doesn't really discuss much about Lebron.
 * Pierce would support material like: "works for Air America network," "has referred to talk radio as 'the biggest con to be perpetrated ever,' referring to it as pontification and noting that the hosts do not listen to their viewers." Doesn't provide in-depth coverage so much as cite him as a primary source.
 * Bobbitt would support material like: "Hot talk radio covering political and pop culture topics." It is not significant coverage, just part of a short list of examples of his kind.
 * This doesn't seem to amount to significant coverage either. Maybe someone else can find other stuff, but as it is, the subject certainly fails WP:CREATIVE or WP:ENT, and I have concerns over whether it meets WP:GNG (it is possible to meet WP:ANYBIO and fail GNG, and GNG's the one that matters).  Ian.thomson (talk) 03:03, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Added COI header to the other myriad of issues with the page, as it appears the subject himself is now editing the article. Mystic Technocrat (talk) 17:49, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

 * The sources for this article are atrocious. Whoever thought the bulk of these references would be OK for wikipedia standards clearly needs to go back to freshmen writing and research & LIS (library information studies). This article's references are a horrible joke. What a mess. To fix this calamity will take a miracle. Geekyroyalaficionado (talk) 14:25, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Infowars
I noticed Infowars should be capitalized as InfoWars. Faolin42 (talk) 17:58, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Q-anon and all that, I don't think this should be in the lede even though it is covered in the article body. Not unless the lede also mentions Lionel's past affiliations. Jeh (talk) 22:09, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

QAnon Conspiracy Theorist?
I fell upon this page and I can't see any valid sources for the claim that Lebron is a "far-right QAnon conspiracy theorist". In fact, the Washington Post source from Dave Weigel is problematic. Weigel is known to consistently produce poorly sourced and poorly updated news articles. He has on several occassions "stealth edited" his articles months later without putting editors notes. He falsely claims that people are associated with the far-right just because they were in the same room as them. His career has been riddled with controversy due to him being far left and openly writing propaganda pieces for democrats and the Washington Post. So yeah, he's a bad source and needs to be removed from this page. .

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Mind Mapping/Lesson 1

This first lesson on Mind Mapping is about the why: why should you learn to Mind Map in the first place? But before you jumpstart into reading this entire lesson, let me remind you that you learn best by doing. And what better way to start then to ask you a little question:

"Why did you come to this wikipage?"

Learning activity: Go to the /Answers Page/ now to read what others said. Then edit the page to share your own answer and come back here.

"Do I have a problem then?"
People have many problems in their lives, and so do you probably. Mind Mapping is technique that could solve at least some minor problems for you. To get a feeling of the kinds of problems that it can solve, let's have a look at what some Mind Mapping users said about the kind of problems that it solved for them. Do you have a problem then?

 * "I was faced with huge amounts of information that I couldn't seem to organize nicely. I had trouble memorizing it all and from time to time, I simply forgot some important tasks that I had to do."
 * "When organizing projects for my club, I always felt a little bit lost in all the to-do's. It seemed like an endless list of chores without me ever getting a grasp on the whole of the project."
 * "In class, I got bored quickly with copying what the teacher wrote on the blackboard. I felt that I didn't really learn or understand it that way."
 * "When studying for an exam, I made summaries of 5 to 6 pages which in the end I couldn't really structure well. Big summaries just didn't give me the overview that I needed, only the details."
 * "Whenever I had to speak in front of a group of people, I felt stressed. Partly because on one side I wanted to write everything down that I wanted to say and secondly I wanted to have the freedom to elaborate on some subjects beyond what I had written down."

Editor remark: The first thing when i open this page comes to my mind is what will be next? So all i can do is wait till some signal that will drive me to get ahead another step

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Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Shiloh/Proposed decision

Wikipedia has had an article on the "Shiloh Shepherd Dog" since the summer of 2003. The article's very early page history appears to be inaccessible due to an imperfect redirect shortly after it was originally created. The page's original author has been identified, by both sides in ths dispute, as Dr. Jeffrey Bragg, a sled dog breeder and a reasonably prominent writer on subjects related to dogs and dog breeding.

The article was relatively stable and uncontroversial for nearly two years. However, in the spring of 2005, the article was altered on several occasions by anonymous editors who repeatedly attempted to remove references in the article to Tina M. Barber and to organizations she was involved in. These changes were consistently reverted by experienced Wikipedia editors not otherwise involved in on- or off-Wikipedia disputes related to Shiloh Shepherd dogs.

Tina Barber is the original breeder of Shiloh Shepherd dogs, generally recognized as the "breed founder" or "breed warden." She operates the Shiloh Shepherd Dog Club of America (SSDCA) and the International Shiloh Shepherd Registry (ISSR). Barber's claim to a state/common law trademark to the term "Shiloh Shepherd" has been recognized after civil litigation, and has never been successfully challenged. Barber attempted to federally register the trademark, but "abandoned" (a term of art) the registration effort before any final determination was made.

Barber's club and registry are the predominant organizations in their field. The SSDCA webring has more than one hundred members, for example, while its largest rival's webring has no more than thirty-five. Google reports roughly twice as many sites connected to the SSDCA as to its largest rival, the ISSDC.

Shiloh dog breeders have been a fractious community for most of the "breed's" existence; disputes extend even to whether the class of dogs is properly identified as a "breed," and what that term denotes. While Barber's organization have been maintained with relative continuity since the early 1990s, rival/splinter groups have come and gone in that time. Today, the SSDCA's principal rival is the International Shiloh Shepherd Dog Club (ISSDC), established in June 2004. Disputes between the two groups (or their members) have occurred regularly since that time.

Dave Herz is a professional dog breeder/trainer affiliated with the ISSDC, who operates that organization's Canadian chapter. He operates a private message board for that chapter; many of the anti-Barber editors involved in the current dispute are affiliated with that board/site. Herz is a prominent/recognized figure in the Shiloh Shepherd dog community (SSd), and was involved in conflicts with Barber and the SSDCA well before this Wikipedia dispute began.

In November 2005, Herz began editing on Wikipedia, first as an IP-identified editor, then as "Shiloh lover." Herz edited only the Shiloh Shepherd Dog article, and his edits were focused on promoting the organizations he was affiliated with and denigrating rival groups and Tina Barber. Herz's editing practices were incompatible with Wikipedia policies and guidelines regarding writing about oneself and one's own activities, such as WP:AUTO and WP:VAIN; and his attempts to deprecate information about Barber and about her organizations' positions on disputed matters were overt violations of WP:NPOV.

Following Herz's edits, User:Trillhill added a link to the External Links section of the article, to a page presenting the ISSR's position on various aspects of the controversy. Herz responded by creating a user page for User:Trillhill, and posting personally directed comments regarding Trillhill which clearly violated Wikipedia policies/guidelines regarding civility and personal attacks and demonstrated Herz's unwillingness to comply with Wikipedia policies regarding ownership of articles and NPOV. Herz did not sign his post. He also reverted the article, removing Trillhill's changes, without an appropriate edit summary.

On December 2, Herz disclosed personal information regarding User:Trillhill, identifying her as Karen Ursel on the article's talk page, reporting the name of the kennel she operates and her affiliation with the ISSR. Herz was the first editor in this dispute to disclose personal information regarding other editors. His comments also at least bordered on WP:NPA violations, and characterized Trillhill as a vandal.

After Herz added more of his own commentary to the article, clearly incompatible with WP:NOR and in some cases WP:NPOV, a sterile edit war with an IP editor followed. Herz posted a series of clearly uncivil comments to the article's talk page, characterizing changes to his text as "vandalism."

On December 6, Tina Barber began editing the article, as a new Wikipedia user. Her initial factual comments did not violate any Wikipedia policies, although it is fair to say that she presented only information supporting her position in the external dispute. Barber also posted comments to the article's talk page which criticized rival registries, but did not make personal attacks on other editors or violate WP:CIVIL.

On December 8, Herz again made uncivil comments regarding editors whose views differed from his. He also posted an uncivil request for mediation, bordering on a personal attack on those editors, calling their edits "Political/self-serving positions, slander, and derogratory" while describing his own as "unbiased, non-slanderous, and informative using verifiable sources."

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Snowy-bellied hummingbird

Snowy-bellied hummingbird
Voting period ends on 1 Oct 2019  at 08:55:45 (UTC)
 * Reason:High quality large image. FP on Commons. Adds value to article.
 * Articles in which this image appears:Snowy-bellied hummingbird
 * FP category for this image:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
 * Creator:Charlesjsharp

 * Support as nominator – Charlesjsharp (talk) 08:55, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. MER-C 10:05, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support Geoffroi  02:59, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support Might be nice if the tail was that tiny bit more in focus, but.... Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.9% of all FPs 20:08, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support - DreamSparrow  Chat   19:31, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unashamed

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. This is actually difficult to close as a delete because some reasonable points are made in their defence, including the discovery of a second record. Whether this passes is WP:MUSIC is difficult to say, and Iuchiban doesn't actually offer any justification for his claims. That said, Iuchiban does not show any sign of bad-faith and I am inclined, given the material being debated and the weakness of one deleter and the admission by the nominator that he "guess[es]" it's non-notable, I'd like to see a clearer demonstration of deleteability than this. -Splash talk 18:44, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Unashamed
I'm guessing that this band is non-notable. It is difficult to research. If it's notable, please tell me so. --F a ng Aili 22:50, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

 * It is actually quite notable withint he Spirit Filled Hardcore movement. They released two albums with Tooth and Nail records and toured extensively in the early to mid 90's.  They are refrenced in the Christian Hardcore article.Iuchiban 23:17, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete Tooth and Nail Records website only credits them with one album, and I can't say if Tooth and Nail Records is considered a "major indie label" as per WP:MUSIC. --Bugwit grunt / scribbles 23:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * No vote. On http://www.allmusic.com I actually do find two records (Reflection and Silence). - Andre Engels 09:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

'This AfD is being relisted to generate a clearer consensus. Please add new discussion below this notice. Thanks!' W.marsh 15:57, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Don't Delete This is a band that had a huge influence on Christian Hardcore though their commercial output may not have been huge they did tour extensively and had a rather large following.--Iuchiban 22:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as nn-band. -- Rory 0 96 04:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


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A Swedish Love Story EP

A Swedish Love Story is an EP released by Canadian musician Owen Pallett. Following Heartland, this is Pallett's second release under their own name rather than their previous stage name, Final Fantasy.

Critical reception
The EP was received favorably, generally scoring slightly below its predecessor, Heartland. Pitchfork scored the release at 7.4 out of 10.

Personnel

 * Produced by Rusty Santos and Owen Pallett
 * Mixed by Rusty Santos
 * Engineering assistance from Brian Thorn at The Magic Shop
 * Mastered by Alan Douches at West West Side Music
 * Published by Open Wallett
 * Design by Colin Bergh

 * Owen Pallett – violin, synths, keyboards, vocals
 * Thomas Gill – guitar
 * Shahzad Ismaily – drums, electric bass, percussion\
 * Rob Moose – violin
 * Nadia Sirota – viola
 * Clarice Jensen – cello

Artwork
The packaging for the release displays four altered pieces of artwork, credited as follows:

 * Scentless Mayweed, 2007, Roger Whitehead
 * Carolus Linnaeus in Laponian costume, 1853, Hendrik Hollander
 * Linnaea Borealis, 1901, Carl Axel Magnus Lindman
 * Untitled, 2009, Agnes Thor

title: A Swedish Love Story EP


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Learning the vi Editor/vile

Overview
vile is a vi clone which doesn't claim to be a vi clone. The idea behind vile is to have an editor which works similar to vi but provides features for editing multiple files in multiple window-areas like emacs. In fact, vile development started by using MicroEMACS as the base, and not a vi clone, and also not full blown Emacs. MicroEMACS is an emacs-like editor (MicroEMACS's author didn't like full-blown emacs, and the vile authors didn't like (Micro)EMACS mode-less way of working). So vile was developed.

vile provides the most common vi commands (as used by their authors), but not all vi commands. The implemented commands are supposed to work more or less like the original vi commands. The window management and buffer management came from MicroEMACS.

Much work has gone into the vile documentation after the first versions were almost undocumented. It is recommended to consult the documentation to find out the differences and extensions of vile, compared to vi.

Resources

 * vile
 * MicroEMACS

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Tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Mixed doubles

Belarus' Victoria Azarenka and Max Mirnyi defeated Great Britain's Laura Robson and Andy Murray in the final, 2–6, 6–3, [10–8] to win the gold medal in Mixed Doubles tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics. In the bronze medal match, the United States' Lisa Raymond and Mike Bryan defeated Germany's Sabine Lisicki and Christopher Kas, 6–3, 4–6, [10–4].

The tournament was held from 1 to 5 August on the grass courts of the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club in Wimbledon, London. This was the first time mixed doubles was included in the Olympic tennis programme since Paris in 1924, where Hazel Wightman and Richard Williams won gold. 32 players (16 pairs) from 13 nations competed.

Background
This was the fifth appearance of mixed doubles tennis. The event was first held in 1900 and would not be held again until 1912 (when both outdoor and indoor versions were held); it would then be held the next two Games in 1920 and 1924. Tennis was not a medal sport from 1928 to 1984, though there were demonstration events in 1968 (which included mixed doubles) and 1984 (which did not). Mixed doubles did not return with the rest of the tennis programme in 1988; instead, it was not until 2012 that mixed doubles returned to the programme, where it has been since.

Belarus's Max Mirnyi was a top doubles specialist with six Grand Slam titles but no Olympic medals, as the country had no other top level male doubles player and the mixed doubles had not been played at the Olympics since 1924. Victoria Azarenka was the world #1 women's singles player with strong experience in doubles. The pair had won the 2007 US Open – Mixed doubles together and were the top seeds coming into the return of the event at the 2012 Olympics. The other seeded teams were the two American pairs (with the Bryan brothers playing with Liezel Huber and Lisa Raymond) and Polish duo Agnieszka Radwańska and Marcin Matkowski.

Argentina, Australia, Belarus, the Czech Republic, Poland, Russia, and Serbia each made their mixed doubles debut. Great Britain and Sweden each competed for the fourth time, matching the absent France for most appearances among nations.

Qualification
The main qualifying criteria were the ATP and WTA ranking lists as of 11 June 2012. The players entering were formally submitted by the International Tennis Federation. The ATP and WTA rankings were based on performances from the previous 52 weeks, and there were several tournaments in the two-month period between the time of the rankings being frozen for entry and the beginning of the tennis events at the Olympics. Players must have also made themselves available for two Fed/Davis Cup events from 2009 to 2012, one of which must have taken place in 2011–2012, and had a good standing with their National Olympic Committee.

Each National Olympic Committee (NOC) could enter up to six men and six women athletes, with a maximum of four entries in the individual events, and two pairs in the doubles events. Any player in the world's top 56 was eligible, and NOCs had the option to enter players of a lower rank. Athletes were able to compete in both singles and doubles events. Doubles players within the top 10 doubles rankings on 11 June were eligible to bring any player provided that player had any doubles or singles ranking, and as long as the number of players from the same country did not surpass the total of six.

Competition format
The competition was a single-elimination tournament with a bronze medal match. All matches were best-of-three sets. Tie-breaks were used for the first two sets of each match. If the score was tied at one set all, a 'super tie-break' (the first pairing to win at least 10 points by a margin of two points) would be used.

Schedule
Matches took place between 1 and 5 August.

Seeds

 * 1)  /  (Winners, gold medalists)
 * 2)  /  (first round)
 * 3)  /  (semifinals, bronze medalists)
 * 4)  /  (first round)

Key

 * INV = Tripartite Invitation
 * IP = ITF place
 * Alt = Alternate

 * w/o = Walkover
 * r = Retired
 * d = Defaulted


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JavaScript/Links

Featured weblinks:
 * JavaScript portal at developer.mozilla.org
 * JavaScript Reference at developer.mozilla.org
 * JavaScript Guide at developer.mozilla.org
 * Gecko DOM Reference at developer.mozilla.org

 * JavaScript Reference at msdn.microsoft.com

 * JavaScript
 * ECMAScript
 * JavaScript engine

 * Wikiversity: Topic:JavaScript
 * Advanced JavaScript

 * JavaScript Tutorial at w3schools.com
 * JavaScript Reference at w3schools.com
 * About: Focus on JavaScript from Stephen Chapman at javascript.about.com

 * ecmascript.org
 * ecma-international.org
 * http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma-262.pdf

Discussion forums, bulletin boards:
 * HTML, CSS and JavaScript at coderanch.com
 * JavaScript Workshop forums at jsworkshop.com
 * Forum: Client-side technologies at webxpertz.net

More Web sites:
 * JavaScript tutorials at webreference.com
 * Videos from Douglas Crockford on JavaScript
 * JavaScript at epanorama.net
 * JavaScript Tutorials at pickatutorial.com
 * JavaScript Essentials at techotopia.com - An online JavaScript book designed to provide Web developers with everything they need to know to create rich, interactive and dynamic Web pages using JavaScript.
 * JavaScript Tutorials at yourhtmlsource.com
 * www.quirksmode.org - over 150 useful pages for CSS and Javascript tips & cross-browser compatibility matrices.
 * Wiki: I wanna Learn JavaScript at c2.com - A list of links to Web resources on JavaScript
 * Unobtrusive JavaScript at onlinetools.org - a guide on how to write JavaScript so that your site degrades gracefully (i.e., if the browser does not support or has turned off JavaScript, your site is still usable).

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Software testing/Introduction

content of course
intro: you are here at the moment history of testing: time phases in testing, some test philosophies, what can testers expect?, theory design techniques: as it says :-) laboratory course: exercises for doing alone, online-sessions with tutors, other collaborations test tools glossary literature results: results that we observe during the course (already one result available)

From now on if you are not familiar with the mentioned terms, please have a look in the glossary. If you do not find it there, tell us please.

principles in testing
Here we talk about some general principles, with which you should be familiar with. In short the main principle is to find your goal and then reach it. This requires asking a lot of questions, and knowing what the right questions are will certainly speed things up. A book Microsoft recommends to new testers is Testing Computer Software by Cem Kaner, Jack Falk, and Hung Quoc Nguyen; published by Wiley in 1999. As a new and unexperienced software tester at Microsoft, this book was referred to as the bible of software testing several times.

Goal
The goal of software testing is to assess the requirements of a project; then the tester will determine if these requirements are met. For example it does not do any good to check for error handling if the programmer will not add it to the project. There are many times when low memory usage and speed are more important than making the program pretty or capable of handling errors. While programming skills are useful when testing software, they are not necessarily required. Many career testers will not have extensive programming knowledge, however it can be useful in determining the cause of errors found in a project. Requirements can usually be categorized into two main categories:
 * Functional
 * Non-Functional

Functional Testing
The first thing to test for is functionality; does the project perform the task it was built to perform. This can be as simple as making sure an addition function can add two numbers. On the other hand, this can be as difficult as: checking for error handling, proper formatting, or network troubleshooting. Everything depends on the intentions of the specific project.
 * After that the tester will look for limits to the project. Is there a number that the addition function is not expected to add?  This will normally be related to the types of variables involved, however many factors outside the code can generate potential limits to keep in mind (e.g. formatting long numbers in tables.)  The best way to test limits is to use the limits themselves and one increment beyond the limit.

Non-Functional Testing
In short this category includes all types of testing that do not include performing the task of the project: Internationalization, Accessibility, Budgets, Deadlines, Resources, etc. There are various types of Non Functional testing, Performance Testing, Load Testing, Stress Testing, usability testing, maintainability testing, reliability testing, portability testing ...which will provide an information on the product that is built.

There is no software without anomalies
Think about it - do you know from your circle of friends someone, who never made an error? Humans make mistakes and, because of this, amongst other things, the goal of testing is to show the anomalies in software. If no anomaly was found, so - utterly - something was overlooked.

but you can't test everything
With infinite time you can test completely. But for those amongst you, who do not have time en masse, the following principle is important: risk and priorities are nuts and bolts.

because of this: start testing as soon as possible (ASAP)
The earlier an anomaly is found, the more time there is, to analyze it and if required to treat it accordingly.

Warming-up
''Please see also the discussion about this story. (This italic sentence is just to eliminate problems about the story and perhaps the selection of another one).''

Here you will read a story like in fairy tales. The intention of this is - like told at the beginning - to show that testing should be seen as something general, what you can apply to anything. Besides this, a discussion should be started with this story, because there is no "one" solution for the story. This means there can be many ways to solve the puzzle. So: fasten your seat belts! and let's start:

Once upon a time...

The princess went along a swamp in the late morning. Then suddenly a frog jumped out of the water.

The princess thought: "What a nice surprise." She assumed that the frog will jump away when she comes near it. But... the frog did not jump away - in fact while she was going to the frog, the frog also approached her. And then the frog spoke to her: "I am a prince from far far away. A witch bewitched me and now I have to be a frog until a princess will kiss me." But, while the frog was speaking, another frog jumped out of the water - and believe it or not, this frog also told, it was a bewitched prince. And then another frog appeared and so on. Suddenly there were frogs everywhere. The princess who had never seen mystical creatures, couldn't bare this and blacked out.

When she awoke again, it was already noon and she saw all the frogs - hundreds of them. When they noticed, the princess was awake, everybody began to speak. There were so much voices that the princess could not bare this and she shouted: "Quiet! I can't rescue you all. Imagine the slime I would have on my mouth. Please tell me, who is the best of you, so I can rescue only him. I mean I also can only marry one guy. But I have 4 pretty sisters, so I could kiss 5 frogs at best."

Of course all the frogs began shouting: "Me. Me. Me...."

Now the princess was in a bad situation, how should she filter out the best frogs (aeh - I mean princes)? How could she test, if the frog would not lie? Imagine the situation of any frog: it would lie through its teeth to be human again. (And imagine the other frogs just wanting to get a kiss from the pretty princess.) Can be assumed that the dynamical approach to kiss all frogs would not be chosen by the princess?

What would you advise the princess, how to test for the best frogs?

Hint for you: there are already existing comments to this story (if you do not like one comment, read the next one, there are always new ideas in each posting). Please add your thoughts, ideas here.

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Halka Chronic

Halka Chronic (February 26, 1923 – April 16, 2013) was a geologist who traveled and wrote books about the geology of the western United States. She studied the Grand Canyon, Walnut Canyon and then resided in Boulder, Colorado where she continued to study the Rocky Mountains.

Early life
Halka Chronic was born in Tucson, Arizona on February 26, 1923. She was born to Sidney F. and Marylka Modjeska Pattison as Helena Bainbridge Pattison. Halka spent her childhood summers in Corona Del Mar, California with her mother, an artist, and her brother, Karl. In her early life she took trips across the country to Cape Cod, Massachusetts. She developed her passion for traveling and sailing, as well as her skill as a watercolor painter, during these travels with her family. Halka attended the University of Arizona and Stanford University, and she received her Ph.D. in geology from Columbia University in 1949. Halka chose to focus on the fossils of Walnut Canyon, Arizona while earning her Ph.D. Halka spent a summer working with geologist Edwin McKee in the Grand Canyon during the 1940s, work that built the foundation of her future in geology. Halka Married John Chronic in 1948, and moved to Boulder, CO soon after her graduation and their wedding. Halka and John raised four daughters.

Travels
The couple was based in Boulder, Colorado, but Halka and her husband traveled frequently, spending a year at a time in Scotland, Ethiopia, Australia, and Puerto Rico. Although the couple eventually separated, Halka continued traveling on her own to Mexico, Norway, Poland, China, and Latin America. She also drove the Alaska Highway four times.

While in Ethiopia, Halka taught at Haile Selassie University. While in Sydney, she began writing geology books. She also worked as a scientific editor for the Geological Society of America. During a cross country trip, she wrote the Roadside Geology Books for Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona.

Career and awards
Halka began her career at the Museum of Northern Arizona in Flagstaff, Arizona. After this she taught at the University of Michigan- Summerfield Campus. Chronic had a B.A. in Zoology earned at the University of Arizona, an M.A. in Biology from Stanford University, and a Ph.D. in Geology achieved from Columbia University. Halka traveled to Ethiopia in the late 1940s and taught at Haile Selassie University; when she came back she worked at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) as a writer for eight years. Later, she traveled across the West to Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah, also known as the Four Corners region. As she was traveling, Halka was studying the geology of the western national parks, and she later wrote Three Pages of Stone. In addition to this Halka wrote two other books. Halka also worked as a consultant for groundwater and petroleum research. In 2004, Halka Chronic received the Geoscience in the Media Award given by the American Association of Petroleum Geologists.

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 * Oppose because this article is probably relevant and needs to be expanded, and not deleted. I don't think this exclusionist deletion will benefit anyone. Shawn 01:15, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Animal grief

This article is a new low for the english Wikipedia. Good bye quality if people can just plop an article like this and it just stays like this forever, no corrections, no action taken, no god forbid deletion. 3 years! Good grief indeed...<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 17:55, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

 * Why does this article exist? Is there a way to redirect this to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grief#In_animals on the Grief page? Because that's what I'd like to do. We could also make it more confusing and then move it to Uncyclopedia.Etippins (talk) 16:13, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I redirected it, and I don't think anyone will try to fight me over that. But fight me. Etippins (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

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Buddhism/Basic Doctrines

Early Buddhism - Basic Doctrines
The vast literature of Buddhist Sutras outlining the various doctrines are mind boggling. The focus of this course will be to examine Buddhist doctrines as presented in the discourses of the Sutta Pitaka, with greater emphasis on the following topics:
 * The Four Noble Truths
 * The Three Signs of Existence (Tilakkhana)
 * Impermanence, No-self or Anatta, and Suffering or Dukkha.

 * The Analysis of Empirical Existence (Khandhayatanadhatu)
 * The Doctrine of Dependent Origination
 * The Doctrines of Kamma (Karma)
 * Buddhist Ethics
 * Nirvana and the Path Leading to its Realization

You are encouraged to study of the life of the Buddha - emphasizing his magnanimous qualities. This is especially useful for understanding the basic doctrines propounded in the core of Buddhist teachings.

The Doctrine of Dependent Origination

Determinism has been expressed in the Buddhist doctrine of Interdependent Origination, which states that every phenomenon is conditioned by, and depends on, the phenomena that it is not. This doctrine is common to all Schools of Buddhism. A common teaching story, called the Indra's Net, illustrates this point. A vast auditorium is decorated with mirrors and/or prisms hanging on strings of different lengths from an immense number of points on the ceiling. One flash of light is sufficient to light the entire display since light bounces and bends from hanging bauble to hanging bauble. Each bauble lights each and every other bauble. So, too, each of us is "lit" by each and every other entity in the Universe. In Buddhism, this teaching is used to demonstrate that to ascribe special value to any one thing is to ignore the interdependence of all things. Volitions of all sentient creatures determine the seeming reality in which we perceive ourself as living, rather than a mechanical universe determining the volitions which humans imagine themselves to be forming.

In the story of the Indra's Net, the light that streams back and forth throughout the display is the analog of karma. We can also view that the resulting 'illusion' is a set of probabilities. A shifting flow of probabilities for futures lies at the heart of theories associated with the Yi Jing (or I Ching, the Book of Changes). Probabilities take the center of the stage away from things and people. A kind of divine volition sets the fundamental rules for the working out of probabilities in the universe, and human volitions are always a factor in the ways that humans can deal with the real world situations one encounters. If one's situation in life is surfing on a tsunami, one still has some range of choices even in that situation. One person might give up, and another person might choose to struggle and perhaps to survive. The Yi Jing mentality is much closer to the mentality of quantum physics than to that of classical physics, and also finds parallelism in voluntarist or Existentialist ideas of taking one's life as one's project.

The Doctrines of Karma

In Buddhism, only intentional actions are karmic "acts of will". Will in philosophy refers to the quality or instance that produces conscious and intended actions. It was seen as the underlying reality of all perceptions. Buddhists subscribed to the concept of intentional actions that will be subjected to the 'Law of Karma'.

The 'Law of Karma' refers to "cause and effect", but Karma literally means "action" - often indicating intent or cause. Accompanying this usually is a separate tenet called Vipaka, meaning result or effect. The re-action or effect can itself also influence an action, and in this way, the chain of causation continues ad infinitum.

When Buddhists talk about karma, they are normally referring to karma/action that is 'tainted' with ignorance. Buddhist theory holds that every karma (every intentional action) will bear karmic fruit (produce an effect somewhere down the line). Karma is the only thing that is fundamentally real. Volitional acts drive the universe. The consequences of this view often confound our ordinary expectations - much in the way quantum physics has results that are strongly counterintuitive.

There is also a completely different type of karma that is neither good nor bad, but liberating. This karma allows for the individual to break the uncontrolled cycle of rebirth which always leads to suffering, and thereby leave samsara to permanently enter Nirvana. The Buddhist sutras explain that in order to generate liberating karma, we must first develop incredibly powerful concentration, and proper insight into the (un)reality of samsara. This concentration is akin to the states of mind required to be reborn in the Deva realm, and in itself depends upon a very deep training in ethical self-discipline. This differentiation between good karma and liberating karma has been used by some scholars to argue that the development of Tantra depended upon Buddhist ideas and philosophies. Karma is related to the notion of Buddhist rebirth - sometimes understood to be the same thing as reincarnation - which has its roots in the principle of Karma.

Recommended Reading:

 * What the Buddha Taught - Ven. Walpola Rahula
 * Buddha and His Teaching - Ven. Narada
 * Life of the Buddha - E. J.Thomas
 * Essentials of Buddhism - Ven. P Gnanarama.

Coursework
You are invited to write, in not more than 1200 words an opinion of what you think on the subject below:

Explore this statement: "The reflection in the mirror is complete in itself." When a mirror fell and broke into many pieces, how do you explain the reflections in each and every one of the fragments?

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Chain mail/Armor

Warning:Chain mail armor is not bullet proof! We do not recommend chain mail armor for anything other then decoration or disguise.

For starters, you can use galvanised steel rings for armor. They are strong, but not too hard and have some resistance to corrosion. Also, they are cheap. Ring with an ID of 0.25' and a gauge of 16 swg or awg is good. The standard weave is the European 4-1 for armor and is a basic weave in the European familly of weave.

The armor is separated in different parts
 * The body is protected with an Hauberk
 * The head is protected with a coif

Closing rings
There are four types of ring closures: butted, riveted, welded and punched. Only the butted, riveted, and punched closings are historically accurate. Butted rings are ring where each end are bring together but the only thing that holds them together is the strength of the ring. Riveted rings are rings who have their ends overlapping each other and a 'pin' is put through both ends in the overlapping part. They take more time to do, but are stronger then butted rings. Welded rings are rings where both ends are welded together. The strength of these rings is the strength of the weld. Punched rings are rings that are punched in a metal sheet. They are not round but rather flat. Historically the punched rings were used with riveted rings alternating by row.

For closing butted rings, you must have leverage on the two ends of the ring to properly close it. A properly closed ring have both ends aligned and they are touching each other. Their are two techniques for closing rings: by using 2 pliers or by using 1 pliers and a special finger ring. For butted rings, if the ends of the rings have cuts like \\ or || (not ><) you can give them while closed extra strength when well closed. This is caused by the extra resistance to deformation given by the friction of the two ends if moved. The extra strength exists if the deformation occurs in some direction.
 * If you use two pliers, you should take each end of the rings with one pliers and bring them closer by moving both pliers. Moving both pliers minimizes the deformation of the ring and lower the stress on wrists. As the stress is lower on the wrist this allow for longer period of mailing.
 * If the material of the ring is soft, you can replace one pliers with a special ring that you put in one finger. This ring has an opening on its side that allow you to put one end of the ring in it. So you can use it to move the end of the ring. I personally think this can be dangerous if the material is hard, as it put pressure on the finger in a direction that is not supposed to support for long time. Also, closing soft rings individually by this technique seems to work, but it is not always possible to close rings while assembling them. But it can be used to pre-close batch of rings.

Pliers
There are many types of pliers. Pliers with springs are preferable as you will open/close them very often. Otherwise we can characterize the pliers by their end, the length of the handle, the grip of the handle and their weight. To test many different combinations cheaply before buying good pliers, you can go to the 1$ shop and buy different type of pliers. This will allow you to test the different characteristics of the pliers and allow you to wisely chose better pliers which you can easily use. The length of the handle is important, as a too short handle will put pressure on the palm probably always on the same spot. This can hurt when mailing rings if they are hard or if mailing for long time. The grip of the pliers can cause harm to the hand if of poor quality (like in 1$ shop). It must be comfortable and not hurt if lots of pressure is applied. Also having pliers that are too heavy will make it hard to mail for long periods of time.

Rings patterns
There are many different ways of assembling the rings to form a sheet of chain mail. Here are some.

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Citing sources
Although it can be identified with eyes, is there any evidence or reliable document to prove "Yua Mikami and Yua Mikami are the same person" ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kerolf666 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Operations management

Operations management may be defined as the design, operation, and improvement of the production system that creates the firm’s primary products and services Operations Management can include anything from room setup of chairs and tables of venues and events to IT and A/V equipment setup. we can also say that "Operation management is the set of activity converted goods or services through inputs to output." Operations management takes in the efficient administration, measurement, analysis and supervision of the effective operational processes within an organization. Included are product and facility management, service, purchasing, warehousing, inventory and quality control, logistic, transportation and distribution.

Operations classes typically cover:
 * Operations/Production management also includes various steps or functions. This Functions of Production management must be followed in a sequence so that there would be proper functioning of all the functions.
 * Supply chain management, in particular the Newsvendor model
 * Six Sigma and other quality management concepts
 * Risk pooling-that is, the managerial significance of the fact that when you combine two processes the deviation increases by the square of the summation (because variances are additive, standard deviations are not). Risk pooling is often the root cause of economies of scale.
 * Queuing theory which is helpful if you want to optimize business processes.
 * Management Information Systems
 * Action Management - the management of operational "actions" that drive a business
 * Operations strategy, project management, process measurement and analysis, facility capacity and location decisions, forecasting quality control and operations planning.
 * Quantitative aspects such as inventory management, aggregate and material requirement planning, linear programming, just-in-time systems, statistical process control, waiting-line models, scheduling, financial aspects of project management and capacity utilization
 * Dimensions of logistics, procurement and supply chain management, global logistics, managing inventory flow, warehousing decisions, transportation management, third-party logistics and supply chain performance measurement.

Location decisions need to be included operations management.

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Talk:David Weiss Halivni

http://zakarpattya.net.ua/News/159583-Na-Zakarpatti-pid-odniieiu-paliturkoiu-zibraly-Rakhivshchyny-slavni-imena-FOTO David was included in the book "Famous people from Rakhiv region"

Untitled
a biography should have a date of birth (and death, but not applicable in this case)

His memoirs have most of the personal history section. Look at the bibliography in NEJ for the rest.Wolf2191 (talk) 23:34, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I toned down the end of "controversy." The previous version stated "This view was seen as being in direct contradiction to the 8th principle of Maimonides 13 principles of faith, which states "the Torah that we have today is the one that was dictated to Moses by God". Maimonides says that this applies to every single word in the Torah . As a result he was rejected by all orthodox rabbis, who declared that Halivini has firmly placed himself in the conservative-reform camp.[3]" Where does Maimonides state that the 8th principle applies to every single word in the Torah? A source needs to be cited for that. Also, it is not necessarily a direct contradiction because Maimonides himself never wrote the line about "all of the Torah that we have now..." That version is found in the back of the siddur (Jewish prayer book), but was not written by Maimonides himself. The original version in Maimonides' Commentary to the Mishna does not have the word "ata" (now). In any case, many rabbis disagree with Maimonides, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_principles_of_faith#Maimonides.27_13_principles_of_faith. Also, not all Orthodox rabbis rejected him (that is a sweeping generalization that obviously cannot be supported). Finally, it should be noted that the source, Yated Neeman, is an Ultra-Orthodox, right wing source and does not speak for all of Orthodox Judaism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielatwood1 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 16 December 2013 (UTC) Danielatwood1 (talk) 15:56, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

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Source needed in Chate'u Yisrael section
The section Chate'u Yisrael contains a quote from Halivni's book "Revelation Restored" without cititng the relevant pages. Please add the relevant pages from the book if you have access. Leglotus (talk) 17:45, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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giant kettle

Noun

 * 1) A pothole of very large dimensions, as found in glaciers in Norway (pit formed in the bed of a turbulent stream).

Translations

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 * French:
 * Portuguese:
 * Spanish: marmita de gigante

title: giant kettle


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Talk:Clinical trials in India

Nice narratives

 Blue Rasberry  (talk)  16:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC)  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  23:19, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Tables and diagrams

 Blue Rasberry  (talk)  12:49, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Wanted sources

 * This discussed Good clinical practice and I want to include that.
 * This discussed Good clinical practice and I want to include that.

 Blue Rasberry  (talk)  22:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Abhishek
Thanks Abhishek for bringing my attention to this article. Feel free to ping me for any information required. I will try to share information as per my knowledge and understanding. Thanks once again. -- Dr. Abhijeet Safai (talk) 07:47, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

title: Talk:Clinical trials in India