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Talk:Nikki McKibbin

Biography assessment rating comment
WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive

Very nearly a B.

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 02:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

American Idol performance chart
McKibbin's performance chart has been deleted twice for being "cruft." After reading Fancruft I see nothing that applies to the chart as being "cruft." "Fancruft is a term sometimes used in Wikipedia to imply that a selection of content is of importance only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question." Since she is most known for coming in third place on the first season of American Idol, a large population of people coming to her article would feel her performances on the show and the results of each week are of importance. I would like in greater detail how the chart is not notable or encyclopedic. Aspects (talk) 02:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The songs performed are not of importance—it's how she did. Even then, listing how she did every week is not of special import. For a corollary, see WP:CHART: chart trajectories are specifically disallowed as an indiscriminate collection of information. The average person looking up Ms. McKibbin on Wikipedia is not looking to find what songs she performed on the show, they want to know who she is or what she did since Idol. I'm sure that fans of American Idol are interested in the minutiae of the show—for that there is an American Idol wiki. — Hello, Control  Hello, Tony  13:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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First Husband
what is josh ozment, chopped liver?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 06:54, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Death date
These articles are saying that she died on November 1st:, ,. However, this is saying that she passed away on Halloween night:. These are saying that she suffered a brain aneurysm on Wednesday and died that day:,. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 16:51, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

 * From what I've gathered, the aneurysm happened on Wednesday, October 28 and that's when she was declared brain dead, but she was kept on artificial life support until October 31 for her organ donation, with the news going public on November 1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:56DE:BC00:D586:716:5BBD:D2DC (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

 * These sources are also saying October 31st:, . MikaelaArsenault (talk) 20:25, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Nikki McKibbin was kept on life support until 3AM on November 1st, 2020. Its clearly stated in the fb post by her husband that all of these articles are using for a source. https://www.facebook.com/craig.sadler.963/posts/4032596400087311 The post was made in the afternoon (just check the time stamp) of 10/31/2020 which makes November the 1st the correct date.

Place of death
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/american-idol-finalist-nikki-mckibbin-dies-at-42/

McKibbin’s son, Tristen Langley, told The New York Times that his mother died in Arlington, Texas. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 09:58, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

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William Frangenheim House

The William Frangenheim House is a historic house at 410 N. 3rd Avenue in Maywood, Illinois. The house was built in 1906 on a plot previously owned by the Maywood Company, the development company that planned Maywood. It is designed in the American Foursquare style, a vernacular style which was used in many Maywood houses of the period. Like most Foursquare homes, the house has a square two-story layout with a front porch and a hip roof with a dormer. In keeping with its utilitarian style, the house has little external decoration; its interior features Craftsman-inspired wood trim, though it is still relatively plain.

The house was added to the National Register of Historic Places on May 22, 1992.

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Νέστος

Etymology
According to MacBain, from the same root that gave the, possibly.

Proper noun

 * 1) the river Mesta; the river Nestos

Etymology
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You're Gonna Love This

"You're Gonna Love This" is the first single from 3OH!3's fourth studio album Omens. It was released digitally on 10 July 2012.

Background
The song is energetic and utilizes autotune, reminiscent of their 2009 hit "Don't Trust Me". In contrast to that song's reference to Helen Keller, "You're Gonna Love This" includes the lyric “the girl was biting on my lips like Jeffrey Dahmer.” The song mentions picking up a girl at the bar and how the night goes on from there with the duo singing “I’ll buy you a round, if you come close, Turn up the sound, turn the lights down, Give me a chance, I will take her home with me.”

Artwork
The artwork for You're Gonna Love This appears to be divided into 4 triangular sections. The bottom section is seen to be a pyramid with a river running through it, whilst in the centre of the artwork an eye template is featured with the 3OH!3 logo in the middle. The title "You're Gonna Love This" is below, with the single's album title: Omens featured above the eye and logo and below a triangle. There have been many speculations that the single is showing sign's supposedly from the Illuminati, including the Eye of Horus, and a hierarchal pyramid.

Music video
A video for the song was released on Aug 15 2012 on The Warner Sound's YouTube channel.

Synopsis
The video opens with one of the band's members next to a girl at Planet Hollywood. She's married, and hides her ring when he starts hitting her up. Then the second guy walks up and hits on her, and this means war. Both of the men do trick shots throughout the video to win back the girl, including a soccer ball down an escalator. While the trio were going down the adjacent escalator, the soccer ball from earlier was still there. At the end of the video, he throws a ball down to the pool from the roof of the building, but the other man throws another one from higher up in a helicopter, and the video shows another man approach her, who looks like Tom Cruise in Risky Business. She leaves with him. After the song ends, the video cuts to the same escalator where the ball remained.

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Modulation

Introduction
The purpose of a communication systems is to transmit information-bearing signals through a communication channel separating the transmitter from the receiver. Information-bearing signals are also referred to as baseband signals. The term baseband is used to designate the band of frequencies representing the original signal as delivered by a source of information. The proper use of the communication channel requires a shift of the range of baseband frequencies into other frequency ranges suitable for transmission, and a corresponding shift back to the original frequency range after reception. For example, a radio system must operate with frequencies of 30 kHz and upward, whereas the baseband signal usually contains frequencies in the audio frequency range, and so some form of frequency-band shifting must be used for the system to operate satisfactorily. A shift of the range of frequencies in a signal is accomplished by using modulation, which is defined as the process by which some characteristic of a carrier is varied in accordance with a modulating wave (signal). A common form of the carrier is a sinusoidal wave, in which case we speak of a continuous-wave modulation1 process. The baseband signal is referred to as the modulating wave, and the result of the modulation process is referred to as the modulated wave. Modulation is performed at the transmitting end of the communication system. At the receiving end of the system, we usually require the original baseband signal to be restored. This is accomplished by using a process known as demodulation, which is the reverse of the modulation process.

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Cooking/Introduction

The Wikimedia Cookbook is used as a major resource for this page.

Cooking involves knowledge of ingredients and equipment, the use of skills and techniques and the ability to plan and safely organise food preparation, usually within budget and time constraints. The Activity units associated with each of the three modules of the cookery course build a comprehensive programme of study that will benefit students wanting to make progress in the subject for whatever reason they become involved.

The course makes extensive use of the Wiki Cookbook and Wikipedia as sources of information and each assignment in the Activity units is based on a recipe, techniques and ingredients in the Cookbook. The practical cooking assignment is a crucial part of the Activity unit. There is no substitute for “hands on” experience: words and pictures cannot convey the feel, taste and smell of food, yet it is these sensations which are the very essence of gastronomy.

The use of I.T., computation, web research and organisational skills are given due emphasis in each Activity unit. Some assignments involve downloading and working with PDF format worksheets, so a capable PDF reader is needed (e.g. Adobe Acrobat Reader). Open source software such as Open Office and Inkscape can be employed and students are encouraged to used their acquired skills and knowledge to make contributions to Wiki projects.

List of Activity units
1. /Boiling eggs/

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Talk:Roz Savage

Family Life
Any reason why there is nothing in here about her husband (possibly ex) in the background? — Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 01:31, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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Reprinted is an email I received:

 * I realise I may have caused a lot of confusion by using the ID rozsavage.

 * I am NOT Roz Savage.

 * Because I have lots of projects, I use a different username for each, choosing one which matches the subject. Likewise I use a variant of my domain for email, which also matches the subject, so that I can sort emails into subjects and filter out spam easily.

 * My name is Geoff Tomlinson, and I have written the article on Roz Savage because, having heard her speak, and realising that other ocean rowers had an entry, I felt that she deserved one also.

 * The article is not Autobiographical.

 * As this is the first time I have contributed to Wikipedia, I would be grateful for any suggestions as to how I can improve the article.

 * Many Thanks.

Accordingly, I am removing the autobiography tag from the page. —C.Fred (talk) 23:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

At last I have got round to creating a less confusing account name. I am now going to deleting the Rozsavage account so that everything from now on will appear under my own name. Sorry for the confusion. Geoff2DoThat 09:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

sole vs solo
In the 'First Leg' section :

...she completed the first leg by finishing the Atlantic Rowing Race as the only sole female competitor...

It seems to me to say she is the only sole competitor is redundant. Maybe the writer meant to say she was the only solo female... —Preceding unsigned comment added by PerroPerdido (talk • contribs) 16:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Inspirational does not have to mean glossing over of the details
There's a tendency with biographies of people who have achieved something, apparently against the odds, to highlight the hardships and gloss over the little details which might have placed them for success - not to diminish Roz's acheivment. Roz said in an interview with the Daily Telegraph that she thought the race had cost about £70,000, that she felt she had got about £10,000 cash sponsorship, but that most of the funding had come from her divorce settlement - but that fact rarely gets a mention in articles about Roz. In fact little was made of it even in the Telegraph article. It is relevant. The average person simply could not finance an adventure like Roz's even with twice the sponsorship. Hard work and dedication are fine, but luck and money are also often an essential component in any venture.

"Management" Of the Roz Savage entry
Roz has asked me to keep an eye on "her" entry, to add factual information as events occur, and to watch fo errors that may creep in. My sources include her website and personal knowledge of her activities. When she states an intention publicly in her website, that is likely to be the only source for a citation here and it seems impractical to cite a specific blog entry which may,over time, become hard to find.

The pictures currently posted (19 September 2008) were placed by a supporter in good faith. However, they do not illustrate the entry as well as the preferred one which will show Roz rowing past Diamond Head in Hawaii.

I understand that no-one "owns" anything in the Wikipedia but it seems sensible to require accuracy and specificity. John C Kay (talk) 20:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

 * FYI: The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth - so a reference to a reliable source is required. Anything posted based on first-hand knowledge is considered original research, and should not be posted to any Wikipedia article. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Point taken. Researching citations is what I'm doing now. It's interesting that the question of citations arose only today after I had expressed difficulties with trying to change the picture. John C Kay (talk) 22:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There are a lot of articles on Wikipedia, and only a small fraction of those have been assessed as "B-class" status or better (one of the requirements of B-class is that the article is suitably referenced, with inline citations where necessary).
 * Articles get cleaned-up or at least tagged with cleanup notes as people get around to them. By asking questions about the article, it just got the cleanup notes added sooner rather than later.  This is actually a good thing; it's usually harder to reference material after the fact - so by adding it now, you avoid (or at least greatly reduce) the risk of someone removing it outright as original research down the road.  --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:08, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Damn hard to track down some citations, especially from pre-internet years! John C Kay (talk) 00:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup
At last I have been able to find time to do the citations which justify the stuff in Roz's page. I confess to knowing the lady but I have for over 50 years been a writer (by profession) of technical material of various sorts and well aware of the importance of verification. I think it would be reasonable, now, to remove the "conflict of interest" warning which exists only because I was open about my involvement. John C Kay (talk) 05:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I removed the "nofootnotes" tag, as the content is adequately addressed now. Can you also take a look at the items in the "Further reading" section?  If they're redundant to the footnotes you've added (provide nothing additional), then they should be removed; or if they do provide more material, then they should be incorporated in as footnotes themselves.
 * For the COI tag, it will take a non-COI editor to review the article, the references, and to do some searching for additional references as well to ensure that any notable negative comments from reliable sources about the subject weren't omitted. Note: I'm NOT saying that there are any negatives that exist, this is a generic issue sometimes seen with COI editors - so it's a generic comment, not specific to you or Roz Savage.  I'm only that if any exist and were omitted, then to maintain a NPOV then they should be added as well as any documented response to those by the subject of the article.
 * I don't have time right now, hopefully someone else can review this. If not, I may (hopefully) be able to work on it later this week or next. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I've removed some superfluous "Further Reading" items and corrected one that was mis-directed. Those that remain add colour to the main text. I have explained the Wikipedia philosophy to Ms. Savage and pointed out that I can only watch for any inaccuracies that might creep in and add new (and citationable) materal. I'm not even sure that I qualify as a "major contributor"; I did not create the entry and have made only a few additions to reflect actual events. John C Kay (talk) 19:26, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Removed COI Tag
I removed the COI tag after reviewing the article. The information presented is well-cited and factual. The more external links that can be used to "prove" information the less-likely it will get tagged as COI. --Petercorless (talk) 15:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Failed Pacific attempt
Information about her 10 day failed 2007 Pacific attempt and subsequent USCG helicopter rescue should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 03:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC) Sadly, on her website she has posts from every year from 2005 to present, with the exception of 2007 where there are none. I don't see why her site or this site should leave out the failure, because I see nothing to be ashamed about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 03:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Valid point. The story was on the site until it was reorganised recently. I shall attempt to recover the information. John C Kay (talk) 17:19, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It turns out that the blogs between September 2006 and September 2007 got lost somewhere during the reorganization of her site due to (supposedly human) error. Only Roz can restore the missing bits and only if that's possible and when she can fit it in between other priorities.John C Kay (talk) 21:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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Branka Kuzeljević

Branka Kuzeljević (Бранка Кузељевић) (born July 26, 1989 in Užice, SR Serbia, SFR Yugoslavia) is a Serbian cross-country skier.

She represented Serbia and Montenegro at the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy. At only 16 years of age, she was the youngest member of the Serbia and Montenegro Olympic team.

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Talk:David Navara

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 07:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Cez Chess Trophy
Something should be said about Cez Chess Trophy. From Chessvibes: The ČEZ "Chess Trophy could be described as the annual “David Navara versus a very strong GM” event organized by the Prague Chess Society." --Jisis (talk) 21:20, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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User:Sam67fr

Some of my pictures :

Articles I've contributed to :

 * Choisy-le-Roi to expand the stub (Work in progress)

Work I've made

 * Nolwenn Leroy Cleanup done - Added references for her rank in french charts

Work I want to do :

 * Cleanup of Jose Bove
 * Expand Carla Bruni article

Translate part or totality of the following existing english articles in french to improve, if necessary, the fr.wikipedia.

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 * Stargate Atlantis
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Talk:Enthiran/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs) 18:22, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
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 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:

You've really excelled yourself with this one. I can't spot any obvious issues with it, not stopping it from passing GA anyway. I think this has future FA potential. I urge you to open a peer review after this and prepare it for FAC. Make sure it is as comprehensive as possible, which it seems to be. It could use a copyedit by some capable editors I think in parts. but it's well on its way!♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Wayne Chrebet

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This article needs rewording, in my opinion. The real problem, however, lies in the "Early Years" section. Very NPOV.

Am I missing something? What exactly is being disputed?

Cleanup, NPOV and Trivia
Anthony:

Sources and footnotes added to ensure Wikipedia regulation compliance. The trivia section is indeed long but Chrebet is a very popular part of New York Jets history and thus there is an exponential amount of published trivia. I did correct grammatical errors and reduce the verbose nature of the trivia to facilitate your input. Despite the changes I do not appreciate your sarcasm. You stated "This entire article looks like it was written by the child of Chrebet's PR agent". That type of communication is not acceptable in any capacity. I am considering taking action with Wikipedia regarding your unprofessional input. Your concern that sources should be noted was a valid criticism and thus the above corrective action, but your highly subjective insult as noted above is completely out of line and in violation of Wikipedia regulation.

very respectfully, James User talk:thebatsignal 12:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

This entire article looks like it was written by the child of Chrebet's PR agent. No sources aside from stats, lavishing praise with no criticism, and a trivia section almost as long as the article itself. This needs MAJOR work to come close to anything resembling a decent article. Anthony Hit me up... 18:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Article Needs Some Work
The "Post-NFL" and "After the NFL" sections duplicate a lot of content and should be merged into one section. <IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 01:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree. They have been merged. James User talk:thebatsignal 01:05, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Spawn Man/Reviews/Archive1

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was No Consensus. Delete 13, Keep 17. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 03:14, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Spawn Man/Reviews
A large collection of book, movie, tv, music, and game reviews from User:Spawn Man. Falls squarely under Wikipedia is not a free host, blog, or webspace provider —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:30, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Weak Keep God, this is a hard case. Nominator is right that this page does violate the spirit of WP:NOT. However, contributor is well-established and page doesn't consume great space.  I really don't like this practice, as WP is NOT a review archive; but, courtesy and good faith still count for a lot, and I need more evidence of malice before I'll delete something from a regular contributor's userspace. Xoloz 17:10, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom.--Sean Black (talk) 20:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom.--NoahElhardt 23:37, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. I'm sorry about "spamming" the talk pages of movies etc that I've reviewed. I didn't know that you couldn't do that, but now I do. Please leave my reviews page alone, I've spent so much time on it, please don't delete it.
 * Just to show that I'm not the only one with personal, non relavant stuff on my subpage (meaning, not related to wikipedia at all), I've created a list below:

WARNING, IF YOU ARE ON THIS LIST, I AM NOT TRYING TO ACCUSE YOU OF ANYTHING< MERELY SUPPORT MY CLAIM THAT MANY USERS HAVE USER SUBPAGES NOT RELEVANT AT ALL TO WIKIPEDIA, & COULD BE SEEN AS BLOGS OR PERSONAL OPINIONS!

 * User:Sango123/Poetry. Not encyclopedic, so how come he gets a poetry page?
 * User:LordAmeth. This page is twice as long, so size shouldn't matter should it?
 * . A list of subpages for the user Bishonen.
 * User:Rentastrawberry/Classic Rock Full List. A poll this user is making with over 290 rock songs.
 * User:ZeWrestler/Image Gallery. Just as many pictures as my pages.
 * User:Gurubrahma/Archive03. Big page for his awards.
 * User:Marudubshinki/.emacs. Huge page filled with stuff I don't even understand.
 * User:Marudubshinki/.ratpoisonrc. Same user as above, Maru, big page filled again with stuff I don't understand.
 * User:Marudubshinki/Admin standards. A page filled with Maru's opinions. My page is filled with my opinions. Get my jist?
 * User:Marudubshinki/Misc. Another Maru subpage, this time filled with his personal stuff.
 * User:Marudubshinki/Quotes. Yet another Maru subpage, filled with quotes.
 * User:Marudubshinki/Wikipedia wish list. Maru again. His wikipedia wish list.
 * User:Bratsche/Thoughts. A huge system of everyone's thoughts. This page looks onto other subpages, for example: User:Bratsche/Thoughts/Maru & User:Bratsche/Thoughts/Smurrayinchester.
 * User:Martyman/My Images. Again, a big photo gallery, with many subpages if you look at the links on the page.
 * . A huge list of subpages that Martyman has. Even I don't have this many.
 * User:Encyclopedist. Another big user page.
 * User:Marine 69-71. As per above, another big user page.
 * User:Jimbo Wales/Funny pictures. How come Jimbo gets his own little shrine & I don't?
 * User:Deryck Chan/Funny Templates. This user gets his own templates....
 * User:Deryck Chan/Brainstorm. Same user, doesn't take up much room, but is a brain teaser quiz thingy like mine.
 * User:Deryck Chan/Ultimate Question. Same user again, lots of words.
 * User:MacGyverMagic. Another big user page.
 * User:Sebastiankessel/FootballSquads. Another subpage, another top user.
 * User:SoLando/pages. Ho hum... Another big sub page.
 * User:Moe Epsilon/Gallery of friends. A list of this user's friends.
 * User:Moe Epsilon/Vandals. Long list of vandals.
 * User:WAS 4.250/1. Huge subpage.
 * User:WAS 4.250/2. Same user, another huge subpage.
 * User:Francs2000/About me. Another subpage.
 * User:Francs2000/About me/Ancestry. A subpage for the above subpage.*User:Gflores/My interests. This user's interests.
 * User:Gflores/Thoughts. Personal thoughts of the user, i.e. Her opinions.
 * User:Guettarda/slurs. List of ethnic slurs for some unknown use.
 * User:Mailer diablo/Gallery. Again, a huge gallery of photos, so size shouldn't matter.
 * User:Mailer diablo/SGBuses.com. A self collection of his own little portal thingy.
 * User:Durin/Admin voting measures. List of Durin's personal advice, much like offering advice on which books to read etc...
 * User:Durin/Admin nominee charts. Durin again, his subpages are really big.
 * User:Durin/Admin criteria comments. Durin's opinions again etc etc.
 * . Basically, this link gives you all of Durin's subpages. Relevant or not, they all amass to a big pile of user space.
 * User:MarkGallagher/nonsense. At least my reviews page is actually worth having.
 * User:Journalist. Another huge user page. She even has her own review's section, since you argue that this isn't a blog, should this be allowed? Probably she'll get away with it cause Journalist is a big time editor while I'm not even an admin.
 * User:Rentastrawberry. Also has his own user page review's section.
 * User:Karmafist/manifesto. This user gets a big subpage too.
 * User:Karmafist/wikiphilosophies. Another page from Karmafist.
 * User:Raul654/Raul's laws. A long page dictating this user's & other user's "laws".
 * User:Matt Crypto/reading bookmarks. Books he's read? Whatever the case, it's a long subpage.

 * Over all, I've found many small & big users that have review pages, subpages that are nonsense & overall user spaces that are used up. Don't punish me just because I was foolish & ignorant in accidentally placing a few templates on a few talk pages. It was done with the best intentions. It's not my personal opinion either, as I've invited numerous people to join my review's page & write a review. The page wasn't a problem before until a big time editor had a problem with it. As I've said, it's had a lot of time put into it, is not as big as other subpages I've encountered & is more informative than others I've seen too. I don't have a sandbox, so shouldn't this make up for it? Please vote to keep. Everyone should be able to have some freedom on here & I urge you to think what you would want if you were in this situation, having something you loved greatly deleted. Please.... Spawn Man 01:00, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Many (not all) of the pages you've listed above are about the encyclopedia. (Examples: Karmafist's, Raul653's, Durin's...) You're also free to set up a page like this at any one of a hundred free webspace providers, you know. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 01:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, some are, but I was pointing out the fact that they are much bigger than my subpages. Spawn Man 01:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC). BTW, How come you had a problem with this while many editors & admins prior had let the page be? I know we've had our quarrels in the past, but this is ridiculous!

 * First off, I don't think that publishing a big list of people's pages that someone finds questionable, as Spawn Man has done above, is productive, two wrongs don't make a right. Nor do I think the term "big time editor" is necessarily useful... But I can certainly understand that Spawn Man may be frustrated. But more importantly, Guidelines seem to be that if a user has made significant contributions, he or she is granted wide latitude with respect to user pages as long as the content is not actively harmful. In particular "Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic" may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed Wikipedians with good edit histories." Is knowing Spawn Man's opinion "community-building"? I tend to think it is, although only weakly. My issue with this page would be the cover images. Those are all fair use and WP policy says those should not be used in non article space. If the fair use images are removed by Spawn Man, Keep. If not, then I think maybe the community needs to come in and edit them out, and then it would nevertheless be Keep. Note: I just started doing a page User:Lar/Ridelist which arguably has only tenuous connection (in that I know about those rides and could help work on articles about them, and I know how to get more info about them etc)... if this page of Spawn Man's is deleted perhaps I have to revisit that one too?  + +Lar: t/c 01:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I can delete the fair use pictures. I think it's a fair comprimise. Question, As I've stated above, others have reviews on their user pages, so if I moved my reviews to my user page, not a subpage, they would technically be legal? As there is no law that you can't pur reviews on my user page... Spawn Man 01:36, 21 March 2006 (UTC). P.S. Exactly, why should I get singled out? Everyone's basically got something resembling my subpage, & if it's delted, a lot of people's loved pages are going to be put up for deletion!

 * Delete, textbook violation of WP:NOT. Lord Bob 01:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to violate anything, Lord Bob is it? I just wanted to maybe change even a single person's view on a movie etc. That's all.... Spawn Man 01:36, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you were acting in good faith and weren't trying to violate anything, but I still feel it did violate the policy in question. Lord Bob 01:43, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Keep: Although this isn't a blog the User pages and sub pages should be kept to give the user his own space. My Classic Rock List has gotten a lot of attention. Just look at my talk archives and you'll see that half my comments are for that. I've also received three barnstars from other users for making the list. If anyone here wants to nominate songs to just go to my talk page (I always have to give a little plug). RENTASTRAWBERRY   FOR LET?   röck  01:33, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, this is not a daily blog or something, just a page of personal opinions, not out of line with what others have in user space. Plus the last entry is about Wikipedia and qualifies as encyclopedic related content ;-). NoSeptember   talk  01:34, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not like I'm writing in it everyday! I'm putting one exerpt in every month almost!! Spawn Man 01:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Delete Sub pages should really have something to do with the encyclopedia. - M ask [[Image:Flag_of_Alaska.svg|20 px]] 01:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, textbook violation of WP:NOT.ShaunES 01:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This user has only edited since yesterday!!!!! . Spawn Man 01:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Umm... his edit history dates back to December of Last year... You know how to work the contributions box? - M ask [[Image:Flag_of_Alaska.svg|20 px]] 01:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Notwithstanding that this is likely a situation in which the extent of a user's Wikipedia history is at its nadir in relevance to a proper adjuding of the value or quality of his/her vote (at the very least, surely at its nadir vis-à-vis such relevance in the context of an RfA), I think it is eminently clear from the user's history that he/she is conversant with Wikipedia and likely has edited anonymously/under another name; surely the user appears to be making quality and complex additions to Wikipedia, which fact militates against one's readily dismissing the former's vote. (Edit: I didn't bother to look beyond the first page of the history; AKMask properly observes that the user has been here as long, for example, as I.  The user does have but seventy edits, but I'm not particularly concerned about that, for the reasons expressed supra.)  Joe 02:03, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 13 edits before 19 March, but that's enough to argue not a sockpuppet. Septentrionalis 05:55, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment Also, on your list of various subpages: Some of those are extensions of a user page. If I want to have my wikiphilosophies on a seperate page, thats fine, because those are allowed on a user page. For jimbos pictures: Those are already hosted by the wiki for various other reasons. Some subpages deal with aspects of the encyclopedia. I have a User:AKMask/Brandt subpage, detailing communications/harrasment I've recieved from Brandt as part of his campaign against Wikipedia, a User:AKMask/holdingpen for working on new articles before moving them to the mainpage. All these involve the Wiki. Your reviews, unfortanatly, are not related at all to wikipedia. If any of those on the list fall in the same category as your reviews, they should be deleted as well-  M ask  01:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * There's that word again: "some". A few examples I put up there were to show the size that some people's subpages are! Plus, your subpages, is the vandalism you recieved from the guy helping wikipedia? No? Does it help acomplish tasks? It doesn't really do much does it?.... Spawn Man 01:51, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It actually does. Also, note, I have never recieved vandalism from him, instead, im listed on his wikipedia-watch page as one of the editors and/or administrators and/or Jimbo Wales's that he intends to sue, since to him the very concept of a wiki is illegal. All this corresponds to information involving the wikipedia. Your reviews, unless you can find a way to incorporate them into articles without violating the 'No Original Research' rule, does not, in any way, involve the wiki. - M ask [[Image:Flag_of_Alaska.svg|20 px]] 01:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Delete per Lord Bob, BunchofGrapes, and AKMask. Joe 01:49, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, for obvious reasons (or at least reasons obvious to those who have helped edit WP:NOT...) Might I suggest you start a blog (personally I favour Blogger), and link to it from your userpage. That way your reviews are still avaiable for other users to read, but aren't hosted by us. GarrettTalk 02:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Keep. I realize that this takes up space on the servers or whatever, but it's within SpawnMan's user space, and I think we should all have the freedom to do more or less whatever we want with our userspace. How would you like it if someone came along and told you what you could and could not have on your user page? Countless users have poetry, favorite quotes, or lists of favorite movies, books, or weblinks on their pages. I just really don't see how it's a big deal. We should be focusing our attention not on other users' personal pages, but on the multitude of articles that are POV-biased, articles that are missing or stubby, etc etc. This argument is approaching being longer than the Reviews page in question - is this not a waste of server space, not to mention time and effort on the part of contributors? You want to do whatever you want with your user page, you have to let others do what they want. LordAmeth 02:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Comment: While I don't like people using their userpages as a blog, my original problem, which apparently started this whole thing, is that Spawn Man was linking to his own reviews on the talk pages of things he reviewed. I, for one, will absolutely not allow him to do that, and as long as he stops doing it, he can do whatever he wants to his userpage. Adam Bishop 02:21, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Keep. While I think Spawn Man should consider migrating this to some other free hosting option, deleting the page outright is going too far. I agree with the above posters that we should consider Spawn's contributions to Wikipedia and grant him a little leeway.Dinoguy2 02:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Oi vey. I first became aware of this page because SM had placed a template on a talk page indicating that he'd reviewed the film. I had gone as far as "show preview" on the MFD before deciding against it. While it's clear that he's spent a great deal of time on this, that's not the hurdle for inclusion (even in user space), nor is "other good work" in main space. However, we've got an entire "department of fun" that not lending itself directly to building the encyclopedia and imagine the screams if we tried to delete that. I'd dearly like to see the article talk-page annoncments stop, or at the very least be made into something a hell of a lot less official looking, but don't see the crushing harm in this page in particular. - brenneman  {L}  02:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment- Spawn Man, it's considered bad etiquette to spam talk pages asking for votes as your contrib's show you've done. You'd probably earn some goodwill if that stopped. - M ask [[Image:Flag_of_Alaska.svg|20 px]] 02:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Please explain why it is considered bad etiquette. I see no mention of this in WP:EQ.  Also, in my opinion, spam is not an appropriate word here. Dforest 03:58, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * A good chunk of my edits (about 30% up untill lately) have come from AfD, which frowns on anyone trying to drum up votes by begging on talk pages. Really the only polite way to do it is a simple notice (link to the deletion attempt, nothing more.) I'm assuming MfD follows the same guidelines. Begging is never polite. - M ask [[Image:Flag_of_Alaska.svg|20 px]] 04:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * For that matter, AFD etiquette doesn't mention anything against this either. There's nothing wrong with asking one's friends for support, especially in a user page dispute.  I think it's rather condescending to call foul on it.  Dforest 06:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Keep: Spawn Man is a prolific contributor who has helped nurture two articles along to FA status and has started maybe a dozen DyK articles. He has earned the right to some small indulgences. Especially if he stops linking his reviews page to article talkpages.:) He also makes a good case; At what point will the deletionist juggarnaught stop? What has happened to the notion of COMMUNITY BUILDING? Has that been cast onto the bonfire of WP:NOT together with WP:Civility and WP:Good Faith? (Everyone goes on and on about those things, yet without a community they ring hollow). It would appear so...along with any pretense of this being an open, welcoming or fun place to contribute. Not so long ago Great editing in progress was up for deletion. The very fact it was says volumes about how far Wikipedia has declined since I joined just last year. So Forget Good Faith, let's try and simply cut one another some slack.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 03:07, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I can post a comment on my friend's talks all I want. They are my friends. I didn't contact anyone other than my friends! It doesn't matter anymore, I'm gone.... Spawn Man 02:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Delete as falling right into WP:NOT Pegasus1138 Talk 02:58, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Delete Really hard choice to make, tempting to give leeway but... it's just too much. Especially with the spamming on talk pages. Get a blog. Hell, if you ask me nicely I'll probably give you webspace for a blog if you need it. Wikipedia user pages are for providing relevant and helpful information... sorry. ZoFreX 03:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Keep This is a tough one. While these may arguably contradict the spirit of WP:NOT, it does not specifically address reviews in user namespace, and in practice many users are allowed to have similar subpages. Spawn Man may be pushing the boundaries here, but he is doing so in good faith. If we had a film reviews sister project, I would suggest a transwiki there, but until we do, or until policy specifically addresses this issue, I don't see a big problem with it. Linking the reviews to article talk pages is another matter. Dforest 03:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Very Strong KeepI dont see any reason to delete it..... a lot of users have some kind of page linked on the user page....i remember a user who made an article about his father...even though the article itself was deleted....he was allowed to link it from his user page.... i dont know why people are making such a big deal about this... the page obviously took a lot of effort and time... and it isn't good manners to even to put it up for deletion...and about the "spam"... i dont think telling about an article you made is spam....and i dont think a small note on someones talk page is necessarily spam.... and i personnaly wouldn't mind getting messages from someone... Jayant, 17 Years,  India • contribs 06:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as RDH says, the contributor has earned the right to some small indulgences. It's a small page, it doesn' 'cost' much and certainly costs the Foundation a lot less than they would have to pay the user for his time! I think small lists like this are helpful to the project myself; it's not a free standing article or a long list of external links (which should be hosted externally), it's links into the article space. It's quite possible someone will see this list and find new articles to read and edit. By saying Keep I'm not endorsing linking to it, however. --kingboyk 08:21, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Keep. In my opinion, regular contributors should be allowed to have a bit of freedom as regard what is put into their user space. — Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 18:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Keep per Nightstallion and LordAmeth. Most user pages are unencyclopedic, listing hobbies, pictures, etc. If this one goes, all should go. ( A rundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 21:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * But as noted by Jimbo in the debate over userboxes, hobbies and things like that do serve an encyclopedic purpose: to identify areas you are knowledgable and can help in. An extremely long, comprehensive system of reviews does nothing that a single paragraph or userbox could not do. - M ask [[Image:Flag_of_Alaska.svg|20 px]] 22:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Weak Keep I don't see any reason to delete it, but running away from one's problems isn't going to solve them. If Wikipedia upsets you that much that you feel the need to leave, then try taking a walk. — [[Image:Ottawa flag.png|20px]] [[Image:Flag of Ontario.svg|20px]] [[Image:Flag of Canada.svg|20px]]  nath a  nrdotcom  ( T •  C  • W) 22:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep: Well, I have to go with Spawn on this one, as it is his User Page; his domain. He is right to protest the deletion. However, I agree with Nathan too; running from the issue won't really help, mate. I realize that you're a bit distressed, but in this case you probably shouldn't be leaving Wikipedia. M    o    P  14:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. I thought Spawn Man was mildly cursing until I realized Lord Bob was the name of an editor. That is all. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 01:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Creating a webpage or blog for this purpose is easy, free and could always be linked to from a userpage. Esquizombi 07:58, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Hetar 19:03, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Delete if he's actually giving this link to friends as his website, but this seems to be a service to the community. Ashibaka tock 17:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep MYOB. Septentrionalis 05:55, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Question:
If I put the reviews on my user page, then they don't count as a different article. We are all allowed a user page are we not? Other users have reviews on their user pages. Can I do that? I think I can..... Spawn Man 02:03, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * P.S. I Will Be Leaving Wikipedia Permenantly If My Reviews Page Is Deleted & I'm Not Allowed To Put It On My User Page... Spawn Man 02:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Userpages are there with the intent of listing information about you, with the hope that other editors will not only get to know each other, but they can tell what editors can help with what subjects by a glance at the views expressed on the user page. Mine identifies me as a libertarian, Alaskan, and Linux user, for just 3 examples. So someone would know I'm knowledgable in those areas and could ask for help. Wherever these reviews are, they violate WP:NOT. - M ask [[Image:Flag_of_Alaska.svg|20 px]] 02:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * User:Journalist gets her own reviews section? If I was Jimbo, would you have a problem with me having a reviews page? My reviews define that I'm a journalist & a columnist for a newspaper? Therefore they are legal? I will make sure that if they can't go on my user page, every other reviews section, blogger thingy, subpage & personal opinion, fair use image & anything else gets deleted. I will make sure of it. And then I will leave, making you lose one damn good editor & leaving you thinking why one person was singled out. Spawn Man 02:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * That would be an admirable goal. All that should be removed too. Maybe we don't even need user pages at all. Adam Bishop 02:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Frankly, I do have a problem with the the User:Journalist having a review section. It should be nominated for deletion as well. I would indeed have a problem with Jimbo for one as well. Fair use images are allowed in the articles they illustrate and no where else. And no, they dont show you as a columnist. A mention that you are, or a link to a newspaper profile does. A small selection of a couple of your best passages would fly just fine in illustrating that your a good writer. Posting your book would be deleted as waste of space. Just an example. - M ask [[Image:Flag_of_Alaska.svg|20 px]] 02:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I oppose deletion of this page, as I said above. But I also do not like to see "I will take my marbles and go home" sorts of posts, nor do I like to see suggestions that a lot of other user pages will all be nominated for deletion as well, that smacks of WP:POINT. You will make a lot more allies by being calm and rational, no matter how frustrated you are. That is not easy advice to take, believe me, I speak from bitter experience there. But I hope it is helpful advice nevertheless. + +Lar: t/c 02:33, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Delete the damn thing, I don't care. My marbles have been taken, walked home, smashed into little itty bitty pieces & pee'd on. Thanlks everyone for trying, but I have officially left Wikipedia for about a year maybe? Thanks, Spawn Man 02:39, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Sometimes one can be ones own worst enemy. Easy advice to give, hard advice to take. But do take it, please. Think about what you're saying and what effect it might be having on those on the fence.  + +Lar: t/c 02:50, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Can someone please remove the deletion banner from the page now....and stop this discussion already? it appears to be heading towards a keep vote.... it looks as if this whole thing is a big mistake... and it has caused enough damage already...... Jayant, 17 Years, India • contribs
 * The vote is fairly close. This is no WP:SNOW situation. Lord Bob 16:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I know that the vote is fairly close.. but it doesn't make sense in deleting stuff that someone put on their userpage.... this is akin to vandalism..!!! why cant someone have something they want on their user page?? its not like he created an article or something.... and by my experience on wikipedia... users are allowed to write whatever they like on their user pages, even though there are a few rules.... He hasn't broken any rules....and i cant believe that this kind of a thing is happening to spawn... hes one of the friendliest users i have know....and his contributions are invaluable.......i was truly disappointed by seeing the banner on the page...cut him some slack people....!!!! give your opinions and support where its truly needed.... and this place is definately not it....!!! Jayant, 17 Years, India • contribs 17:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You said it precisely yourself. There are rules. We cannot ignore rules just because he's a "nice guy". I have nothing against bending rules on a case-by-case basis, but this isn't a bend, this is a break. And, frankly, even if I had voted keep Spawn Man's temper tantrum over this issue would make me vote delete anyway. That's not the behaviour of somebody who deserves a concession. Lord Bob 17:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems you don't have a problem with people breaking the rules as long as they don't throw temper tantrums. What kind of atttitude is that? ( A rundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 22:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I am not saying that he deserves a consession on this.... i would voted the same if it had been on someone elses page....i am merely trying to say that putting up a sub-page on someones user page on AfD is not acting in good faith... and even i would have thrown a tantrum after all this....infact i think most people would be really angry for this.....you cant blame Spawn for his behaviour.....and if you want to start deleting stuff from other userpages you should start with some of the other users who have larger and worthless user sub-pages.... but frankly i think you all are wasting your time over this.... this page would have hardly been seen by a handful of people....and you are making a big deal out of this....Jayant, 17 Years, India • contribs 19:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I wasn't acting in good faith? Watch youself. I initiated a discussion about whether Spawn Man's reviews page was appropriate content for Wikipedia to host. So far, some people have calmly thought about it and said "maybe not", some have calmy thought about it and said "maybe yes", and a few have started throwing screaming temper tantrums. Which group would you like to be seen as belonging to? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:30, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Cutting some slack is fine, but that page is taking the piss. You seem to be under the impression that people can have whatever they want on their userspace - this is not so.ZoFreX 02:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * No, that isn't how it works.ZoFreX 02:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmm...
From User:Spawn Man:

I've gone on a long long long long long long WikiBreak, with the slimmest chance of returning. Please leave all my subpages, talk, user pages etc etc, alone incase I do come back & wish to restart my editing. So basically do not delete my user account yet without my permission, & I don't give it to you. To all my friends on here, I hope you know that you're the coolest. All the rest of you are on my black list. Good bye, Spawn Man 02:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC).

Gah, Spawn, come on, come back. any sort of vote for deletion has nothing to do with the individual editor, it has to do with policies. Don't throw up your hands and walk out, it's childish. You make many good contributions here. - M ask  02:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm allowed to walk out at any time! I'm sick of everyone undermining my opions here! The user Phaedriel walks onto the scene, just cause she puts a nice picture of herself on her talk page & etc etc, she gets 50 billion barn stars & is suggested for adminship. I've been here 5 times as long & I get nothing. I make my user page interesting so people will look at it & think I've done a good job & nobody cares! I'm leaving because we can't even write an encyclopedia without some sort of unfairness or politics! It's a Gosh darned encyclopedia & we put voids through everything. If it's supposed to be the sum of all human knowledge, then how come so many new articles are delted? Not just vandalism, but because they're short, they get deleted! If I put a random, unfamous guy's biography on here, it would be deleted! That's not the sum of all human knowledge! They say it's vanity, but someone whos not famous could be more interesting than many other articles! I'm leaving because we can't even keep an encyclopedia pure & innocent. That's why.... Now goodbye. I'll respond to comments, but I will be leaving indefinitely... Spawn Man 02:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * At this point, if this is how you respond to criticsm or adversity, I'm left with agreeing to your decision. Cool-headed editors are always prefferable. Tantrums are not the way to get things done. - M ask [[Image:Flag_of_Alaska.svg|20 px]] 03:00, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Come back. It's highly doubtful this discussion was going to end up with consensus to delete anyway. At this point, I regret the nomination. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:53, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * See User:Kelly_Martin I'd rather you didn't leave, of course. PS there is no reason to lash out at Phaedriel... I can't recall her ever raising her voice in anger here, not once. + +Lar: t/c 02:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Except that when I say I'm doing something, I mean I'm doing it. I'm not leaving because I want everyone's sympathy. Nor am I leaving because this vote's turned south (or at least not all of it). I explained my reasons above. I haven't made many friends here & don't expect to get love letters from everyone telling me to stay. I just want to be able to leave in a huff without everyone telling me I'm being childish. I've got a back up of all my pages & I'm sure I can start up on another account. Nobody need know me & nobody need care. It's just the lack of respect for a good editor who can't even have his own harmless reviews page on a subpage or his user page. I have no beef with Phaedriel, I'm just telling you how some people are treated & others aren't. I've stopped spamming etc etc a long time ago & that's about it. I'm having a bad time in real life as well & this was the last thing I needed. God, & to think I tried to make Wikipedia a nicer place. I'm just not appreciated anywhere, no matter what I do. Create half a tonnes of articles, edit a few thousand more, get things to the main page, nominate your friends for adminship, get a few wikiprojects on their feet & even vote on a few things. I know, cry me a river. This will be my last edit for a long time, so make the most of it. Spawn Man 05:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * It's sad that you're walking out but I agree that it's advisable you at least take a break. Your presence is not a tool to sway a vote with, however. Oh, interesting point about non-notable biographies, you've got me thinking now.. ZoFreX 03:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I totally agree with Spawn....i've seen all the work hes been doing... and even though i've know him only for a short time...hes earned my total respect.... i was gonna award him a barnstar for his stuff.... but all the present barnstars were not enough for him......and i was gonna make my own one.... hes been giving his heart out for a long time and you people repay him by putting up his user sub-page for deletion.... i am sorry to say this..... but my opinion about the worthiness of wikipedia has changed a lot after this discussion.....!! Jayant, 17 Years, India • contribs 18:07, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Its all about opinions anyway . . . rule breaking seems to be fine (for example every list violating WP:WINAD that I have AfD'd has survived) as long as it strikes enough people as OK. People are jerks, that's just life I guess. ( A rundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 22:43, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:Peñitas, Texas

Possibly the oldest settlement in the United States
"The small town, tucked between Palmview to the east and La Joya to the west, is believed to be the oldest settlement in the United States, De Luna said, tracing its establishment to the 1520s."

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ressaldar

Etymology
From Hindustani contraction /, from  / , from , from  + Persian agent suffix.

Noun

 * 1) The native captain of an Indian cavalry regiment.

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Death and funeral of Lee Teng-hui

Lee Teng-hui, former president of the Republic of China, died of septic shock and multiple organ dysfunction at Taipei Veterans General Hospital on 30 July 2020.

President Tsai Ing-wen instructed a memorial to be set up at the Taipei Guest House from 1 to 16 August and the national flag to be flown at half-mast for three days starting 31 July. Lee was cremated on 14 August after a private funeral service and his ashes were interred at the Special Honour Zone of the Wu Chih-shan Military Cemetery on 7 October. He was commemorated at a public memorial service on 19 September.

Illness and death
On 8 February 2020, Lee was hospitalised at Taipei Veterans General Hospital after choking while drinking milk and retained in the hospital under observation due to lung infection concerns. Later, he was diagnosed with aspiration pneumonia caused by pulmonary infiltration, and was subsequently intubated. President Tsai Ing-wen, Vice-president Lai Ching-te and Premier Su Tseng-chang visited Lee at the hospital on 29 July 2020. On 30 July, after a pastor's last prayer and accompanied by his family, Lee died of multiple organ failure and septic shock at Taipei Veterans General Hospital at 7:24 pm, aged 97 (98 in some sources, by East Asian age reckoning).

Memorial
President Tsai Ing-wen instructed a memorial to be set up at the Taipei Guest House for the public from 1 to 16 August 2020 and the national flag to be flown at half-mast for three days starting noon of 31 July.

On 9 August, Yoshirō Mori, former prime minister of Japan, led a cross-party delegation and conveyed to President Tsai condolences from current Prime Minister Shinzo Abe before paying tribute to Lee at the Taipei Guest House, where he expressed gratitude for Lee's contributions to Japan–Taiwan relations and his support to Japan's post-war recovery. While not designated as an envoy, Mori is said to act on behalf of Abe. Mori had approved Lee's application for medical treatment in Japan during his premiership, against Beijing's protests and his cabinet's concerns.

On 12 August, Alex Azar, United States Secretary of Health and Human Services and the highest-level US official to visit Taiwan since 1979, paid his respects to Lee at the Taipei Guest House.

On 14 August, a woman, identified as retired entertainer, vandalised the memorial by throwing a balloon filled with red paint at Lee's portrait.

The memorial ended with Lee Chun-yi, deputy secretary general of the presidential office, leading the staff to bow three times to Lee's portrait. More than 43,000 people visited during the 16-day period.

Planning
A spokesperson of the presidential office said that despite the provision under the National Burial Act (1948) that a national with great contributions to the state or the mankind can be interred in a "national burial cemetery" in the national capital, the act has never been invoked due to the relocation of the government. In practice, the president appointed 21 members (in case of a passing president) to form a funeral committee, which arranges the funeral in the rite modelled after the national burial.

On 3 August, President Tsai announced a 32-member funeral committee, comprising Lai Ching-te (convenor), Lien Chan, Vincent Siew, Su Tseng-chang, Yu Shyi-kun, Hsu Tzong-li, Wu Jin-lin, Chen Chu, Wang Jin-pyng,, Hsu Shui-teh, Chien Foo, David Lee, Wu Po-hsiung, Huang Kun-huei, Wellington Koo, James Soong, Peng Ming-min, Koo Kwang-ming, Morris Chang, , Yuan Tseh Lee, Perng Fai-nan, , Chen Po-chih, Chiang Chi-chen, Ko Wen-je, Chiu Hsien-chih, Liu Yi-te, Hsu Kuo-yung, Joseph Wu and Yen Teh-fa. The list is noted for its inclusion of incumbent and former vice presidents, incumbent and former heads of the five government branches, senior government officials, party leaders across the Blue-Green camps and entrepreneurs.

As Lee was a Christian, the presidential office delegated the preparation of his funeral services to the Presbyterian Church in Taiwan, in accordance with the wish of his family, therefore the erecting of traditional memorial altars with incense and candles were not utilized.

Although Lee had said he wanted his ashes to be scattered on Jade Mountain, his family agreed to strike a balance between the institution of the state and the wish of the family, so that his thoughts "" and "Integrity and naturality" could be implemented. His younger daughter Annie also described Lee's last wishes as the strengthening of Taiwan's democracy and the unity of the Taiwanese people, and expressed a desire to demonstrate these through the arrangements of his funeral.

Funeral service and cremation
At 6:36 am on 14 August, the casket carrying Lee's remains was moved from Taipei Veterans General Hospital to, where Lee's private funeral took place behind closed doors. At the start of ceremony, the bell was rung for 21 times, in an adaptation of the 21-gun salute in Western state funerals. The service was presided over by pastors Iap Khe-siong and Ng Chhun-seng. During the service, the Taiwanese Hokkien version of Lee's favourite hymns "Amazing Grace" and "Rock of Ages, cleft for me" were sung. Around 100 people, including 60 family members, some government officials and clergymen, attended the service but Lee's widow, Tseng Wen-hui, was absent over concern for her health.

After the funeral service, the funeral procession made a symbolic lap around the Presidential Office Building, where crowds lined up to pay their final tribute. David Lee, secretary general of the presidential office, and Wellington Koo Li-hsiung, secretary general of the National Security Council, headed the presidential office staff and military officers in a guard of honour. The cremation took place at Taipei City Second Funeral Parlor. Lee's granddaughter Lee Kun-yi carried the urn containing his ashes back to Lee's residence.

Farewell service
At 9 am on 19 September, the farewell service (memorial service) was held at the Main Chapel in Aletheia University, which was situated in Tamsui in New Taipei City; members of public could register to attend at the chapel and concert hall of the neighbouring Tamkang Senior High School. The title of the ceremony was "I do it with the People in my heart", taken from his speech during his visit to Cornell University in 1995. The ceremony was broadcast live.

Burial
The burial ceremony was held on 7 October at the Special Honour Zone of the Wu Chih-shan Military Cemetery in Xizhi District, New Taipei City. Following the wish of the family, the ceremony was not open to public, with only family members and top level government officials in attendance. The national flags at government and public facilities were flown at half-mast on that day.

At around 8:20 am, Lee's family members, with Lee's granddaughter Kun-yi and grandson-in-law carrying the cremation urn and the portrait, departed from his family residence and reached the military cemetery an hour later. They were greeted by President Tsai, Vice President Lai, Presidential Office Secretary-General David Lee and Deputy Secretary-General Lee Chun-yi, Interior Minister Hsu Kuo-yung and Defense Minister Yen Teh-fa. The ceremony was officiated by Pastor Ng Chhun-seng and Elder Chueh Chang-meng of Che-lam Presbyterian Church. In Ng's sermon, he encouraged the Taiwanese people to be inspired by Lee's "Jade Mountain spirit" and to dedicate themselves to their home Taiwan. The interment was followed by a three-volley salute by the Military Police Honour Guard and the "Last Post" played by the military band.

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Ivo Petović

Ivo Petović (born 26 September 1963) is a Montenegrin professional basketball coach and former player.

Early life
Petović was born in 1963 to a Montenegrin Croat family from Muo at the Bay of Kotor.

Professional career
During his playing days, Petović played for domestic teams Budućnost and Crvena zvezda, and the Greek team AEK Athens. Afterward, he played in Luxembourg, Sweden, Portugal, Slovakia, Russia, Tunisia, Macedonia, Switzerland, and Romania. He retired as a player in 1999.

National team career
Petović was a member of the Yugoslavia cadet team at the 1981 European Championship for Cadets in Greece. Over seven tournament games, he averaged 6.7 points per game.

Petović was a member of the Yugoslavia junior (under-18) team that won the silver medal at the 1982 European Championship for Juniors in Bulgaria. Over six tournament games, he averaged 5.2 points per game. He also was a member of the Junior (under-19) national team at the 1983 World Championship for Juniors in Palma de Mallorca, Spain. Over eight tournament games, he averaged 7 points per game.

Coaching career
In 2000, Petović established KK Stars, a youth academy based in his hometown, where he coaches youth.

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Cookbook:Quail

| Basic foodstuffs Wild quail were once a popular game bird. The eggs of the quail are considered a delicacy, and are sometimes used raw in sushi. The Common Quail was previously much favoured in French cooking, but quail for the table are now more likely to be domesticated Japanese Quail.

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Gravelines (horse)

Gravelines (1972 – 30 April 1977) was a French-bred Thoroughbred racehorse. Unraced as a juvenile, he won three minor races as a three-year-old in 1975, but was beaten when tried in higher class. In 1976, he made significant improvement, winning the Prix du Palais-Royal, Prix Jacques le Marois and Prix du Moulin and ending the year as one of the highest rated horses in Europe. He was moved to the United States in 1977 where he won the Canadian Turf Handicap and the Pan American Handicap before being fatally injured in the Hialeah Turf Cup Handicap.

Background
Gravelines was a grey horse bred in France by Dayton Ltd, a breeding company owned by the French art dealer Daniel Wildenstein. He was by far the best horse sired by Cadmus, a British-bred stallion who recorded his most significant wins in the Prix La Force in 1966 and the Prix d'Harcourt in 1967. Cadmus had little success as a breeding stallion in Europe and was sold and exported to Japan. Gravelines' dam Gray Dove was a full-sister of Pink Pigeon, who won the Santa Barbara Handicap in 1969. Wildenstein sent his colt into training in France with the Argentinian Angel Penna, Sr.

1975: three-year-old season
Unraced as a two-year-old, Gravelines made his debut in the summer of 1975, winning minor races over 1600 metres and 1500 metres. He was then moved up in class for the Prix Messidor over 1600 metres on 24 July at Deauville Racecourse. Ridden by Robert Jallu, he started at odds of 15/1 and finished out of the first ten in a race won by Son of Silver. After another minor win he contested the Group Three Prix du Pin over 1400 metres at Longchamp Racecourse in September and finished unplaced behind Northern Taste.

1976: four-year-old season
Gravelines began the 1976 season by winning a minor event at Saint-Cloud Racecourse in February. He continued to compete in second-class races, finishing second to Lanargo at Saint-Cloud and winning over 1800 metres. On 30 May, the colt was moved up in class for the Prix du Palais-Royal over 1400 metres at Longchamp. In France, horses in the same ownership are coupled for betting purposes and Gravelines was made 5/2 second favourite together with his more highly regarded stablemate Monsanto, who had been runner-up to Grundy in the Irish 2000 Guineas. Ridden by Yves Saint-Martin, the grey colt recorded his first major victory, beating Girl Friend by two lengths, with Monsanto in third. In his next two races, Gravelines finished second to Full of Hope in the Prix du Chemin de Fer du Nord at Chantilly Racecourse and third behind Dona Barod and Monsanto in the Prix Messidor at Maisons-Laffitte Racecourse.

On 8 August at Deauville, Gravelines was moved up to Group One level for the first time for the Prix Jacques le Marois. He was coupled in the betting with his stablemate El Rastro and started 2/1 favourite against twelve opponents including Full of Hope, Vitiges, Manado, Donna Barod, Girl Friend and the St James's Palace Stakes winner Radetzky. With Yves Saint-Martin opting to partner El Rastro, Gravelines was ridden by the Australian jockey Gary Moore. The race produced a blanket finish, with the first seven home covered by less than a length, but Gravelines prevailed by a head from Radetzky and Vitiges, who dead-heated for second, with Manado, Ellora, Avaray and El Rastro just behind. After a break of seven weeks, Gravelines returned for the Group One Prix du Moulin at Longchamp on 26 September. With Saint-Martin resuming the ride, the grey colt started 7/10 favourite, coupled with Monsanto and the Prix Jean Prat winner Earth Spirit, against a field which included Avaray, Manado, Ellora, Son of Silver and Dona Barod. Gravelines accelerated impressively in the straight and won easily by two and a half lengths from Dona Barod with Manado in third.

In early October, Gravelines was offered for sale at the Polo Club sale in Paris and was bought for ₣950,000 by representatives of Maribel G. Blum & Mrs. Robert Harpinau.

1977: five-year-old season
In 1977, Gravelines was transferred to the United States, where he was trained by Neal Winick. On his first appearance for his new connections, Gravelines finished second in an allowance race at Gulfstream Park on February 4. Fifteen days later, the horse contested the Grade III Canadian Turf Handicap over eight and a half furlongs and won from Proponent and Lord Layabout. On March 5 was moved up in clas and distance for the Grade II Pan American Handicap over one and a half miles, in which he was ridden by Jerry Bailey and won by more than six lengths in a track record time from Le Cypriote and Gay Jitterbug. On his next appearance, he moved to Hialeah Park and finished second to All Friends in the Grade III Bougainvillea Handicap on April 2. Four weeks later, at the same course, Gravelines was fatally injured in the Hialeah Turf Cup Handicap. Ridden by the sixteen-year-old Steve Cauthen the horse broke his right front ankle approaching the final turn and was euthanised shortly after the race. After the race an emotional Cauthen said "I started to make my move when he gave out. He dropped his left front leg and went right to his rear end, That's when he broke down. I pulled him off and then jumped off him."

Assessment and awards
In 1976, the independent Timeform organisation awarded Gravelines a rating of 130, two pounds behind their best miler Wollow, and three behind the top-rated older horse Trepan. In the French handicap for 1976 he was rated the third-best horse of the year behind the middle-distance runners Ivanjica and Ashmore.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1911–12 William & Mary Indians men's basketball team

The result was   no consensus. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 21:08, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

1911–12 William &

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This article does not appear to be sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia; specifically, it does not meet: WP:NSEASONS. Not only was 1911-1912 not a championship season, but it wasn’t even a winning season for the team. This article appears to be part of a series of season articles, but per WP:MULTIAFD I am suggesting one (the first one I came across) for deletion now to see how it goes. Shanata (talk) 05:19, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Shanata (talk) 05:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Keep, but perhaps with article move. W&M has always been an NCAA Division I (or historical equivalent) school, the top amateur basketball played in the United States. I could compromise with creating decade-long articles, such as "William & Mary Tribe men's basketball, 1910–19", which are the accepted/standardized substitutions in the college basketball, college football, and college baseball WikiProjects to avoid potential single-season stand-alone articles that might not be notable themselves. Jrcla2 (talk) 00:44, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions. Tavix |  Talk  01:16, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Merge into groupings of seasons, as suggested above. W&M has always been a Division I program and therefore notable. Per WP:NSEASONS: "In cases where the individual season notability is insufficient for an article, multiple seasons may be grouped together in a single article. This grouping might be based on head coaches, conference affiliation, or any other reasonable standard that results in sufficient coverage for the period to warrant an article." It would seem wisest to me to either: 1) have articles for each decade of the 1900s, with individual articles beginning at 2000-01, at which point more media coverage per season would be available, or 2) have articles for each conference affiliation W&M has had: Independent, 1905-1936; Southern Conference, 1936-1977; ECAC South, 1977-1982; CAA, 1982-2000. (The team is still in the CAA, but as mentioned earlier, I think 2000-01 is a good cutoff point for when individual season articles could begin, as more media coverage is available for recent seasons.) Skudrafan1 (talk) 14:57, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I personally like the decade approach rather than by head coaches or conference affiliation. For W&M basketball specifically I like it because it would be consistent with the way the W&M football seasons have been created. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:25, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 06:24, 15 February 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

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Gabriel of Qatar

Gabriel of Qatar, also known as Gabriel Qaṭraya bar Lipeh, was a Qatari Syriac writer of the Church of the East. He wrote a commentary on the East Syrian liturgy.

Life
Gabriel's date are uncertain, but he probably flourished in the late 6th and early 7th centuries. He refers to Shubḥalmaran, metropolitan bishop of Karka d-Beth Slokh, who probably died in or about 620, as still alive. His commentary must precede the reforms of the liturgy associated with the patriarchate of Ishoʿyahb III (649–659).

Sarhad Yawsip Jammo identified the author of the commentary with the Gabriel Qaṭraya who collated a manuscript of the Peshitta (Syriac Bible) at Nisibis in the 25th year of Khusrau II (either 614 or 615). There are references in this manuscript to the School of Nisibis and it was probably copied there. A notice says that Gabriel worked in the presence of his teacher, Mar Zakka, which implies that he was a young student at the time. Sebastian Brock rejected the identification. The manuscript is currently British Library, Add. 14471.

Work
Gabriel's commentary, sometimes known under the Latin title Interpretatio officiorum, survives in a single manuscript copied in the Monastery of the Bear, now catalogued as British Library, Or. 3336. Only the section on the Holy Qurbana has been published and translated into English. An epitome of the Commentary by Abraham bar Lipeh has been published. The date on the manuscript is partially damaged. It was copied on the last Friday of July in a year of the 13th century, either 1238, 1268 or 1288.

The commentary is divided into five verse homilies (memre) in question-and-answer format. The first homily concerns ramšā (vespers) on weekdays and contains fifteen questions; the second concerns ṣaprā (prime) on weekdays in seventeen questions; the third ramšā and lelyā (matins) on Sundays in five questions; the fourth ṣaprā on Sundays in nine questions; and the fifth the Holy Qurbana, which is the Eucharist, in eight questions.

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