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+0001_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cfd4162f-0da5-47f8-b74a-1dca642ec435,14.92,i wanted this to share a few things but i'm going to not share as much as i wanted to share because we are starting late i'd like to get this thing going so we all get home at a decent hour this this election is very important to
+0002_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,802ad72f-d755-474a-918e-dfd737e42f2c,14.53,state we support agriculture to the tune of point four percent no way i made a mistake this year they lowered it from point four percent to point three eight percent and in the same breath they're saying food
+0003_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d4419088-d747-4397-8845-d3d26cf841f8,14.79,security so it doesn't feel very secure to me as a farmer to hear that and my family and i we've been farming here since nineteen ninety
+0004_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0eec6eb2-10ad-405b-be98-6e864fc6603e,14.83,three and we produce last year we produce twenty one thousand pounds of food for the community on two thousand square feet so unless we were that efficient to produce that much food
+0005_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e66074e4-d268-4655-8428-cdba55577417,14.94,commons here in the spirit of being able to grow our food here locally so we started as an organization in actually in two thousand and nine but really in two thousand and ten march of two thousand and ten we had our first meeting
+0006_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9181fe21-5c8d-4bb4-9e1f-cf265c078cb5,14.34,on maui and now we have ten chapters across the islands and about nine hundred members so we are growing exponentially and we're fortunate to know that we have not only
+0007_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,366fe35f-bb0a-42d5-89d4-20f7404fc2e4,14.92,farmers but gardeners and foodies alike who value our mission and what we're what we're about in rejuvenating our lands and also at the same time advocating for our local food production so what we've done as an
+0008_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d66a15dc-3028-4089-86bc-89c299cc355b,14.62,organisation is put together a five point plan you'll hear about that five point plan tonight in our questions and that five point plan basically deals with the whole system of agriculture what makes up the whole system of agriculture and as we see it is
+0009_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,837191d0-a9b5-4fd9-a00c-bc4b09364cd3,14.97,at forty years old getting into farming didn't know what i was doing i was a gardener you know but i had the passion and that's what i still have today and that's what's can sustain our family farm along with my wife's passion and our son who works full time on the farm and our
+0010_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0e20b902-5926-4c9c-98f7-d71067191860,14.83,daughter who came out of it actually she designs and fabricate her own women's swimwear line so here she grew up in a farm family knew about being an entrepreneur and she went and got to go work for somebody else you know and design
+0011_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,98783aa5-3860-447b-a540-cd3265a66da0,14.98,has her own business in that respect so there's a lot of benefits to our economy that represents a family farm the multiplier effect we like to call it so outside of work workforce development we support agricultural land trust we
+0012_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e20f6f3a-90d7-46a2-89ea-6f9b369262bf,14.77,get out once they get it and that would be enforced in a way that we wouldn't have any quote unquote gentleman estates they would be active farms and so we have a man in our organization who's actually a board member of our five hundred one c three foundation tailbone our has been
+0013_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8c4c76df-0ee1-4380-9fd0-86cecdc9ea68,14.82,advocating advocating and working on developing that third thing is new treat recycling centers we're developing and advocating for those in our regions c the reason why we have so many chapters is because we want to
+0014_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fcba51b3-f811-4b48-9689-861cb6e0b389,14.8,build our agricultural strength regionally we want to you know when you're growing things in hama it's a lot different than you're growing in line where james is right now you know and so each region has its own issues and its own challenges and its own benefits
+0015_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6aa27d1d-c65e-4efa-931b-e21f4b35d67a,14.74,and we want to highlight those and bring that to where we can have a supportive system in place so nutrient recycling our nutrients back on to the land to rejuvenate the soils that have been depleted by plantation agriculture over a long period of time
+0016_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f540aa82-dfcd-4a10-b608-a85993d4ad7e,14.5,is an important aspect of what we represent and the fourth thing is food hubs have aggregates places where we can as farmers bring all our produce and then have that aggregate out whether it's fresh and
+0017_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2de61b80-7a9e-4c44-aad8-9f42ac052f75,14.77,and it's so beautiful to see these kind of farms these boutique farms springing up all over the place so it's important that we support our farmers first and foremost making a living at what they love to do and secondly to put across
+0018_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,32107b73-0c3b-4f00-aa7a-801d999b72cb,14.86,five point plan and you the folks that are running for office they can get into office to support us in this respect because we're poised to work with anyone who is willing to work with us so on that note i'd like to introduce our first
+0019_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4e364195-3c8e-4a4f-8ec2-043a34b4908d,14.95,but domestic violence doesn't happen in a vacuum it's a lot of the community issues things like poverty homelessness housing all the different effects of of you know living on an island community and the cost of living and all those kinds
+0020_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a79392c4-90bd-49d2-aa6b-48707f811f60,14.92,i know on a very small scale what farmers experience on a large scale aside from the having to make a living at it so i'm not doing it on that level i'm just trying to raise enough tomatoes for my grandson
+0021_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f55e1814-b0b5-4558-aab3-1a576185c829,14.92,to eat every morning so i am here mostly to learn to i'm glad to know that the white farmers union is relatively young and so i'm not too far behind the curve and i'm grateful to be
+0022_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,acda9251-cf74-4db2-bc9e-9b563bb3e409,14.65,development sorry for the false start on that and there are comment on that is that with the average age of farmers in hawaii it at sixty we can all agree we need to grow a new generation of farmers equipped with the skills to create successful farming
+0023_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a71c50c9-97e7-4981-9c76-ea62540dae05,14.95,also having gotten grants from the county i know that they have a lot of requirements but i think when you're looking at a program like this you're looking at something new and something different so i think everyone could come with a different set of
+0024_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,93310c88-53e3-4d11-ad48-828e54af104d,14.64,goals and they might all be very very worthy right because you might have somebody who's trying to create a farm you might have somebody who are who has a farm was trying to get a bigger farm you might have somebody with a big farm that's trying to invest in and infrastructure more
+0025_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3525462c-36e8-4b82-981a-08a17fa25524,14.49,equipment or something like that so i think those kinds of grants shouldn't be too restrictive because you need to be able to be creative with new projects so i would support that because i think the need is here and it's huge
+0026_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,023ab85a-ce59-42bc-921f-921c6527c382,14.8,question and the statement and i think of the programs that we have in place programs that we grew up with like f if a and things like that i noticed as an adult i don't see as much participation when we were in
+0027_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0e76f98b-bf0b-44b9-bc00-9cbc1e2d58a0,14.86,much anymore and that's something that we need to start to support more in our schools to support our fund i'd like to see that apprenticeship programs incorporate alternative farming practices i
+0028_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e708ccd9-5d45-4199-a446-74a84b6fa450,14.92,you would want a beginning farmer program to have in order to win your support absolutely absolutely in my thoughts in a farm apprenticeship program in any apprenticeship program is importance of diversity in their training as a young farmer
+0029_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,81466059-e6cd-4d7b-b4b6-50d399802bec,14.89,diversity in pest control in soil maintenance which is a big issue that will be discussing in a little bit and especially i think a lot of people when they think about farm apprenticeships they think about manual labor so i that's why i would like to see more training and
+0030_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,26d2c0d5-03b4-4773-934c-abe33bc7cef6,9.661,more education in the program so that the farmers that we produce are going to be able to accept and be able to deal with some of the change in diversity in the market thank
+0031_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d030c62f-0271-4808-83e2-4d46a614f437,14.851,thank you all our next question is strangely enough on the same theme only it's about nutrient cycling centers and soil health and regenerative agriculture so our lead in comment currently many of our hawaii
+0032_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0d8393a4-8d12-41cf-baf5-3b267011dbcc,14.86,farmers months purchased imported nutrient farm amendments is an expense for farmers that's passed down to the consumer in the meantime we accept twenty thousand tons of food waste at the maui county dump that could
+0033_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7b074eba-462e-4259-a61c-39b6927cac5d,14.4,one of the barriers is definitely that many of our leaders are not maybe not privy to the background of all the different farming
+0034_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c264f2d9-f162-4a10-ab3a-cc5fcc01cced,14.95,practices in the last two years of my degree i focused on the anthropology of agriculture and how different countries throughout the world are now reverting back to their indigenous agriculture systems in brazil
+0035_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4ef82ae0-bd5c-4404-8757-0227663c37d9,14.86,in korea and learning that the system that worked all along was the best system for the place which makes perfect sense but we've been i think in a in a place where we've
+0036_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b18f47c9-f446-4463-9716-59dc412db04c,14.92,we have multiple hotels here who do these huge catering jobs and have all this extra food and i actually know that because sometimes the food ends about our shelter when it's good but you know there's all this byproduct you know when you're prepping food
+0037_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1790a23c-5ea5-4cc5-bcb4-f5335715029e,14.59,all that stuff there's so much food just from the hotels and catering companies that could end up in composting that makes perfect sense to me i think part of the problem and the barrier is that we similar
+0038_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9277b49d-7293-46cc-8c6b-8944982047d2,14.61,we don't know better yet like we're just learning about that that we could take all that food and turn it into wonderful rich soil is it's not a new concept by any means is a very old concept but we've gotten used to doing
+0039_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6f90b8da-b32f-440c-9e84-19590a50b63a,14.98,educate us as county council and as leaders throughout the state about the importance of that thank you thank you very much all of you thank you i don't know if we mention this this race actually has four people running but we
+0040_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,374aeea8-87c5-4e71-b186-1447dde7e6dc,14.97,we need an empty seat ok food helps across the nation food hubs are becoming solutions for centralizing food processing and distribution increasing food production capabilities for small farmers by paving the way for
+0041_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a666589c-0388-41d0-8a28-81cdbcb70bfb,14.92,cooperatives our five point plan is working with the state wide farm to school initiative for growing food for the dio we school lunch program all three of you you have one minute please describe benefits you can imagine
+0042_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cb94c641-6ced-4ccb-893e-c563d1e1ae84,14.26,for the citizens of maui that would result from the maui county facilitating in funding a food hub let me repeat that please describe benefits you can imagine for the citizens of maui that would result from maui county
+0043_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,272d77b0-74ef-4ecc-9c6d-b5a2676340ed,14.86,fishermen up there selling for fresh fish you've got people growing and cooking with their own food and and selling wonderful fresh food at the market so something like that i i also think that oh and one of the biggest things that
+0044_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bd35d307-ffbb-474f-b733-02b54c8445aa,14.59,happened for my family is this fresh eggs you know getting our gannett eggs that cost goes great by getting locally grown eggs that are all different sizes and colors and and when there's a huge difference so that was an
+0045_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,91f4039d-6664-421f-9936-d7ca0aad9f29,14.83,education for me and you know one of my things that i'm i keep saying is you know i grew up in a time where things were different and going to the supermarket became a luxury and that if you had any status you go to the market you don't have to have your own chickens but we're reclaiming that now and i think
+0046_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,561641c2-4b4e-43ec-b21d-f4c1dd05837a,14.92,and what happened people grew their own food people worked on barter systems people were able to have their own food hubs in their communities where they were able to trade and barter their goods for the things they needed why do i think food hubs are important because a food hub for sustainable
+0047_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6838acba-3b5f-4fd6-81b5-0ae47c0bc069,14.49,training that would be involved with that education for these people this is part of the five point plan for the farmers union in my mind to bring apart this new change in our agricultural system and how we view our food how what we eat and how we eat it so i would be completely
+0048_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,372bb832-cdae-4f0c-8f7d-9fdb89593a6c,14.89,for developing these food hubs for the idea of training apprenticeship programs bringing healthy food into our community and developing through the county of maui ways that we can use and certify these are getting farms so that a food can be given
+0049_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,12458024-81c6-4d5c-ae9b-1e9767219c85,15.0,so we're going to switch to policy a little bit and we're going to have a separate question for each of you we have specific questions with each of you in mind our topic is the farm land zoning and affordable land trusts in other words
+0050_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2235163c-ce8b-4aac-999c-117c1b9f0d6d,14.59,this you have two minutes so here's your question our organization supports the concepts of farmers living on the land they farm and lease through an agricultural land trust what
+0051_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,02abfbca-18ad-4f37-9579-c1652d9b089b,14.8,ideas would you propose in moving in this direction so that it would be actualized in other words how can we make it so that people can lease farm lands and actually live on them it's a wonderful question it's interesting thing is i think we're looking at
+0052_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7154307d-a2b9-4189-9e75-f65629bd5ab6,14.74,housing start developing more sustainable lands that these farmers are actually putting more interest into their land as they're developing the cost and the resources that they can be gained from that as we're developing that we need to look i think we need to look at that
+0053_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,989f9d64-11e9-446f-881f-7bf7b25ff2b4,14.97,community is to start getting on some big business to say what is your plan especially alexander bald how are you planning on developing this for as you they have stated for use for individual farmland once that is together then i think we can move forward as a group towards a project to
+0054_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,feaa54ba-0a59-48a6-8bed-155db5e515c3,14.71,speaking with right now so these are three of the four candidates for the a country consul seat a stacey you have your own question two minutes what are your ideas for changing eggs zoning that will allow for more options for farm
+0055_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4f7433b4-812e-4086-848b-3e4b67a82380,13.45,worker dwellings including temporary structures such as the new trend of tiny houses in your i think that's an excellent idea i love the title house idea and i think that we do need to change some of our
+0056_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0d0a2118-0a23-47b6-af62-35eca474ec32,14.86,regulations if you will to allow for that because right now it's kind of complicated you really can't just put up a year you still need a permit if you have a tidy house you need to put it on wheels i mean it's kind of silly but i think that as a county if
+0057_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9e8b0ec6-7ef6-4a0f-9d0c-b02737feaef9,14.82,we're really committed to one affordable housing which we keep saying we are and if we are really committed to farming and growing our food and supporting local businesses these are all very small businesses we're trying to support we keep saying we
+0058_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6b98623b-5cf1-4989-bcd9-59bcf3855bbb,14.83,are and we need to find ways to make that happen and so i would support that i think the concern is that sometimes people will say that it's workforce housing and build a mansion on their land so i think that we would
+0059_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e887af6c-9c95-40a5-a340-90f4a72b073e,14.89,want to monitor that and have an enforcement part of this as well to make sure it's one thing yes we absolutely want to support workforce housing if you're working on the farm that's very important and we all have to have support and housing
+0060_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5517e1e8-bd8c-4f02-88b0-e9b48bba9b7b,14.89,you know looking at not everybody's paying their fair share sometimes on taxes some people are paying too much some people are not paying enough so to have an a foresman piece to make sure everybody's paying their fair share that's really important to me i think we need to look at that and that that would actually pay for itself
+0061_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bf8aea55-af84-47b2-b259-98de4892a314,14.79,pretty quickly i also wanted to say that you know the we have a big housing crisis here so this is a solution i think to several problems
+0062_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8c07963e-05e4-4cf9-ab9a-e919b0a1be2f,7.45,the housing and the ag and the growing food so i think it's a good solutions i'm really glad you're asking those questions thank you
+0063_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c472ef05-35f9-4f6d-9b6f-fca6c2b47cae,14.92,thank you have two minutes and your question is completely different given what it costs for the average farmer to rent a house lease farmland pay for equipment pay for imported amendments and import irrigation costs etc in other words
+0064_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3c49a818-5ef0-44e7-9c38-84ea9ff112ed,14.83,there's a lot of cost if you want to farm what do you think it will take to make farming more successful enterprise and what could you do about it if you're elected i think it is going to take the corporation
+0065_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f409fd85-a275-4109-900d-9e32109e1d9c,15.0,of county and state government to be able to put aside those funds you know in just touching on the other questions i think i believe in order for us to change what
+0066_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,abf2344b-6c2f-4c64-9f72-fa39c15b8181,14.71,is acceptable and that's going to take a change to what you revert by statutes or change to our county charter but that's something as policymakers that is in our power to do and i think we need to be able to look at the
+0067_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bd7d2997-4a1f-4b1e-b4ce-27d28d459b36,14.86,policies that have been in place for ever and and reexamine if they truly suit us today and if they don't then we need to look at what our community really needs and funding i would be able to bring different
+0068_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ae6785bc-7aad-4c62-9fd7-7730b5b3bbd8,14.86,parts of our community together i think one of my strengths is being able to reach out to those who are the experts in their field i readily know that i am not in experts in off field and i am aware
+0069_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2ebfe011-b173-4077-9c1e-f6f0977c17a6,15.0,of that and i i very much honor and respect the expertise of those people who are experts when i was on the state land use commission i did vote against of very controversial development on awful because
+0070_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4621e135-f7cf-47ff-8e24-c1e4b0f6c36e,14.8,how much the cost of irrigation would be to develop a new site and so as policy makers as government leaders we need to be able to protect those people who are producing food we need to be able to protect those
+0071_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9b275ae1-8866-41b7-add9-4a3edc51103f,14.89,places that they are currently farming those places that are currently in ag and we need to to put aside those funds and invest if security food sustainability is our goal like water
+0072_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d11bccb6-3f06-49ab-a3e4-970d3bd41f0d,9.84,infrastructure like all those things like like housing affordable housing we need to be able to prioritize and give funding to those places thank you so much
+0073_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9bf9ce7f-1c4b-475d-a564-918554d5232b,14.32,third party a completely one of the thoughts that i've had is maybe it should be a separate entity that just doing the public trust maybe not necessarily a nonprofit but it could be a nonprofit but it could be a completely separate
+0074_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,34aa264d-365c-468c-876b-87c751191926,14.95,corporation that runs and maintains that system because right now the the challenge is you know we have a big corporation who has used that water system for its very existence and sugar you know
+0075_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,df1acf4d-7d33-4e19-bcc6-1313a1581e0a,14.82,so and they you know they built it and they've maintained it but they've also read their investment many times over so now it's time to share the water with everyone re stores some of the streams that have
+0076_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3949a4e9-76b1-44e8-aa72-7e5da02f011c,14.98,been you know they've cut the streams off so the life cycles there have completely changed and there are farmers along the way we need to if our commitment is to diversify agriculture we're going to need to share that water
+0077_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9abae912-6344-44a4-be30-281c130ec296,14.02,invested interests in it owning it maybe it's the state i mean maybe that's the best answer maybe it's a third party i i would like to investigate that more thank you very much
+0078_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,03deb7c7-1091-4361-905a-6cdb8afedf4f,14.94,system that needs repair and or replacement how do you as a candidate see the needed infrastructure being put in while dealing with the multiple entities out there that wish to control the water should i repeat that
+0079_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7c139959-c478-4389-830a-ad9f69e658e7,14.74,was the legislature approved alexander bottom to keep the water rights for the next thirteen years that's a complete travesty that should have that should be immediately really looked at and changed so that we're not it's not under corporate control i believe all of that water and that infrastructure that was built
+0080_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,83262289-c953-4909-9930-282b1048988d,14.83,supplies water to the plantation not counting your game and there was water by is everywhere i think we need to get control back of our water system so we can use it to get back to the streams to get back to our the people who need it with that we need to deal with our water quality
+0081_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c2638a36-2e65-4dbb-a090-39706b9e99fd,14.67,we have to get back to looking at the old system you know we have great groups at the watershed partnerships we have to make sure that the water coming from the mountain is safe healthy and clean for our farmers to use i think we need to look at it as this top down system
+0082_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0c98f839-fc18-4fef-a167-000c2b1c88b3,10.63,protect our water resources and again to reclaim the water that's here on the island to the people who really deserve it and not the large corporations who abused it thank you thank you
+0083_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ac0615d5-3813-424d-8040-50411b60c4df,14.53,there and not in use and it's it's shameful it's disgraceful when so many people need it that we hear so often about the need of all the different parts of our community that no one entity should be able to
+0084_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dfd39f15-1fdd-40c8-b6c4-43d8ac0811df,9.24,waste that way and so i would be very active in looking at the policies that concern this thank you very much
+0085_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,57de4315-36f9-40f8-b8aa-59f5506e3189,14.59,economic efficiency with the hope that this would replace currently employed practices that the farmers union doesn't really support so knowing that we have a few questions for you starting with eric
+0086_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ca91176e-c3b2-4309-8d97-4c951c8322c2,14.65,what would you do to empower the hawaii department of agriculture in hawaii health department by supporting bills that monitor pesticide drift to protect our health and environment such as things like product testing soil
+0087_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3557684e-2cea-4471-b02e-7546e37095c6,14.94,citizens in maui county need to take the helm on that and start doing their own tests there are organizations the department of water supply there's other groups where you can swab your screens i think we need to find out especially if you're living next to an agricultural area where there is spring or you
+0088_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0b4ec055-410c-4751-9cbe-22062d306adb,14.8,suspect to look at what the chemicals are in the area with that i have to say that i think a lot of it is up to the individual landowner i'm against pesticides you know in my in my career and i have a large stand as a farmer
+0089_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fa5ac7f7-1873-466b-9242-9347b31c9a6e,14.68,stacey one minute again when it's been proven that there are biological applications that can provide solutions to agricultural production issues what is your position on promoting these over practices that
+0090_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3f7f8cda-c783-4b62-bab8-61dd1d7bc227,14.86,use other substances which which are well known hormonal disruptors and possible carcinogens and might cause physical harm to both people and the environment so the question is about
+0091_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3a0bbead-1d5c-427a-ba3e-bdd356f77d79,14.59,if there are proven biological applications what your position on promoting the over you know our business as usual practices again i think it comes back to when you know better and i have to do better so
+0092_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8ee2ebec-4d05-437f-a9fb-8abf28662af4,14.98,part of the i sat on the resolutions committee for the democratic party last year or last convention two years ago and one of the big things that came up from koichi was that people children were being born with horrible birth defects you couldn't deny it
+0093_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,95ae530c-5ab9-4e20-a580-1d863ef26b83,15.0,there was such a high level of that that was proving to be connected to pesticides and runoff and things like that and so the party created a position saying that that need to stop that we need to be informed and that people need to know what
+0094_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,72716992-9785-4863-8f57-006e3f2e676a,14.86,was happening in their areas because it was so dramatic i would absolutely support that too i think the least that we can expect is to know what's going on in our especially near schools and there are homes near parks and if there are
+0095_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,58bc047e-2418-42f8-8f98-fa0890d84564,14.83,biological ways that will work then we need to look at that if we if there are proven ways then we need to use that instead because i know that there are ways that are we're just not using because we're not being sort of sold by dow chemical you know
+0096_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,65e2c261-87cc-41d7-b354-a03622c9ac25,14.92,parks and our our highways our department of parks and rec our our county managing director if we can be able to show through experience through through it works that these these alternative
+0097_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cd516fbb-7d4a-4e67-9046-1a553ca26f9b,14.95,methods and methods that are better for us where then then they're more apt to use them and i would want to create policies to make us use them thank you thank you very much we have one last
+0098_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1d00bd17-6729-461e-b636-409fff18241d,14.46,you one last question and this one's labeled other but it's for all three of you and we'll give you one minute we have noticed that many of the candidates running this year are freshman in a field of potentially seasoned council
+0099_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3177efad-f58f-4711-8afc-d8ebcdb8fb16,13.54,potentially seasoned council members how do you see working together with others that may not share your values or point of view in how to address our agricultural needs and eric you can go first one minute
+0100_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,369fc1b8-035c-4a7c-8ce8-ea0537e4449f,14.91,issues and be involved in any kind of negotiations and any kind of a planning there is always a need for mediation because there are always conflicting views as council member my goal would be to be there as that mediator to help bring
+0101_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,26e63a97-0507-4c63-80dd-013854303de6,14.74,in different parties to communicate well and to come up with a viable solution to every problem because conflict is part of life and as we're seeing in most election process is right now that this is where we're bringing people together and trying to organize to develop the vision
+0102_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2af925b4-06b4-42fc-a36a-a0f0aa4265a8,14.86,in a field of potentially seasoned council members how do you see working together with others that may not share your values or point of view and how to address our agricultural needs first of all i think it's wonderful that there are a
+0103_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,575459ad-d7b4-4ea0-aa06-128fc1b490e6,14.97,lot of new people trying to get into public service because i think that where a testament to the fact that where ready for something different and so i i i think that's wonderful i also think that for most of
+0104_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cb69b2a8-f78c-4a9e-a501-c11a2b669959,14.5,my career as an advocate i'm working with people who often don't see eye to eye domestic violence was not a very popular conversation in the eighty's when i first started doing this work so we brought this to the public we started having
+0105_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4892d2e1-71b2-479b-8e12-8b52d5a2c01d,14.71,conversations and then we had to engage people to help us in the solution because it was a problem that we couldn't solve by ourselves and sometimes we had very differing opinions and so part of the thing that i'm most proud of is creating collaboration is that we're very
+0106_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f916aac0-30e0-4f84-a2b9-92fb2de37d85,14.92,effective to work on creating laws that protect victims of domestic violence creating task forces and collaboration's and that work together and bring people in from actually you know sometimes on polarized positions so i think
+0107_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,731c15c0-8e9d-4795-89f9-c19d070d9887,13.17,as an advocate i have already had that experience of working with groups of people and i would bring that skill even as a freshman i'm not a rookie at working in groups of people thank you
+0108_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6315821a-f8a7-4a2c-8805-506b905170f0,14.58,view of how challenging being a candidate is and i think one of the strengths that i have is my background in education to be an effective teacher you need to be able to present the same information
+0109_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,780062eb-1570-40a6-8e1f-1f29b6094390,14.95,a bunch of different ways because you're dealing with students who come from very diverse backgrounds are very diverse communities and so i can't just say one time and hope they all get it i have to say it five times in different ways and hope you all get it
+0110_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e05daa2c-1df2-40df-8fc6-79490f6503f3,14.86,and to be able to know what different ways to say it i need to look at you as an individual and see where you come from i want to know where you come from where your background is so i know how best to present it to you so that you can get it so we can get on some
+0111_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,369626a8-58a4-4b66-8ba4-dcab40300414,14.89,kind of common ground you know my my travels in different countries have also helped me to not just present that information to people here in hawaii but but people from different countries and i
+0112_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0927e079-5d86-4abd-8679-1e70a87d0841,14.73,believe it's my cultural background that helps me to understand those of different cultures and we need to be able to find common ground in order to move forward and i also understand that although we may disagree on one issue
+0113_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8c134b89-c31a-46f0-bc57-c911384cce0b,14.98,the issue doesn't define a person and i think too often we see leadership today that we are allowing one issue to define people and as a wonderful community the community that has helped to raise me we cannot be a little
+0114_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,40fc7e19-2d3e-4a29-93ba-c7513998f2fe,14.95,each other to think we are defined by just one issue because where we are more complex than that and we are we're so much better than that also and so i think i've already had experiences with there are people you know i don't agree with
+0115_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7d32ec09-df88-4934-be7c-a35df10e1af0,14.98,studying anthropology of agriculture and and it's amazing in india we talk about water in india they have a water temple system and this is how they manage their water where the people who designate how that
+0116_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d3bf81a7-b61d-4a42-a994-b4f665ca14f8,14.89,but it exists and it works and i think we need to be able to one be educated on what works in different parts of the world to be able to bring what is the very best home to have we also need to be educated in what always work here
+0117_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c6d79af3-22b5-4346-ad41-114c06ce68a2,14.61,our indigenous systems because we know what what works we know what this i know is made for and we need to be able to consult those experts we need to value that information and that education instead of ignoring it and putting it to the si
+0118_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5419baea-c562-4fcd-86f3-cca02edb809b,9.67,so i'm very excited about about the vision i'm excited about this movement i'm excited to see what we can do together as a community
+0119_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,75db99f8-f2e5-44e0-be42-0f5482a0bb1d,14.86,and that even as a farmer other than working with the land i was involved with pesticide issues with land use issues with definitely the water issues that took to keep that farm going and to try and rehabilitate that farm after years of disarray through that
+0120_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4745c6a2-2834-48f0-9ae5-9e6a8889c283,14.68,through all these experiences i learned so much about the needs of farmers the needs of the land of the needs of businesses to actually survive in a very competitive and a world market again working with some of our flowers were not able to distribute overseas because of being out
+0121_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,062ecf8b-caf2-4167-8b47-7f29a9a1edaa,14.92,competed due to marketing aspects that happened in the eighty's way before i got involved those are all heavy issues and later i would love to communicate with everybody to get more ideas to help me understand individual issues to help
+0122_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4bea50e8-3040-44e0-9f3e-9f4de23263f8,14.46,you stacy do you have any concluding remarks about your positions on agriculture or is there a question you wish you would have been asked and if so please ask it and respond in two minutes well i really am
+0123_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cd9446a9-ba92-4964-b010-483861d584b9,14.77,i think i've learned so much in my little garden and you know and it inspires me i created a whole program just from a piece of calo that my son got visiting someone's field he brought it back he dropped it in a pot because i didn't have time to grow it
+0124_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e8b07c46-1bdd-4f1a-8433-defc7c67b32a,14.85,kahlo and so i learned a lot in the garden i learned a lot from farmers you know that are doing way more than i am but one of the things that i think as a county we should do is support people who
+0125_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,21072acc-81bb-44e2-b110-45ba3fdd1907,14.89,want to grow food because sometimes they're i think we need advocates for farmers and i think the county should create that whether it's in the form of a grant writer or in a in the form of an ag department or but some way to support the
+0126_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1da7af78-0db4-47b1-b536-f7a9ef2fb116,14.83,farmers because you might be really great at growing food and regenerating the soil and doing all the work that needs to go into and maybe not so great at writing a grant you know an r p g just came out which is a request for proposals to
+0127_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,abe6ab77-0b18-45bc-bc82-6fb71250b910,14.53,state our peas are very complex and i don't know i'm a grant writer i know how complicated they can be so i feel like the county would do well to higher ground right or to help not just the farmers but in this
+0128_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b43618b2-97c1-45af-8cf4-485314168891,14.97,context certainly the farmers who may not have that skill set so i would like to see more advocacy for people like the farmers who need that level because there's money out there we just need to know how to get it so
+0129_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0f27f935-c2d7-4a63-8292-5f05ed0c437d,14.89,i look around the room and i see numerous people who i have provided that mary services for over the years i decided to run for the county council because i have been involved with agriculture
+0130_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,babc4b8d-002b-42fb-9190-bd5d88e24b60,12.39,for forty years as a veterinarian providing services for cattle horses sheep goats and all the small animals you can name as well as wildlife
+0131_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,08d8058c-b167-4c84-ac99-1eddd973dc1c,1.74,i'm looking forward to the election
+0132_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8de40cd8-5930-4f1a-aedf-fc06636918bf,14.43,all agree we need to grow a new generation of farmers equipped with the skills to create successful farming enterprises the whole y farmers union united maui chapters farmer
+0133_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,296ec42a-52de-4ed4-948c-2009925291d4,14.77,what issues would you want to raise before making such a decision in committee dr kaufmann thank you for such a specific question if you want a new generation of
+0134_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,46efe6e9-6fbc-41a5-bf86-f2f0ea9d90fb,14.95,every year you have to write up your farm plan how much money are you going to make for the next five years as a farmer and the answer is well who knows is it going to rain is it going to flood what is it going to do and what are you go
+0135_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9452eae2-0777-4e45-aa22-13d4a5fa7cca,14.92,do with all these pieces of paper putting them in a filing cabinet and all the work i've done to create that what happens with it probably absolutely nothing it just sits there doing nothing my farm planting everybody's farm plan our
+0136_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f80d5ea8-8fb2-44a4-ae19-d47e15912139,14.98,founding fathers of the united states farm plan was straightforward we intend to not starve to death so we're going to make enough food to eat it is yellow my time's up or is it a warning i've got two
+0137_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bae84dfd-6590-4376-b56e-0a74a1172628,11.19,more fifteen more seconds that's a lot well that's my farm plan i don't want to starve and i want to get rid of the paperwork that i have to turn in that proves it thank you
+0138_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c1db2b91-df34-40c2-a5de-3994c5b782a3,14.74,with a farmer apprenticeship mentoring program i would like to see the benefit not only in growing a new base of farmers but also in sustaining and growing the farm land that we utilize to apprentice these farmers
+0139_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dae5e4a7-8c1d-4cc9-b6b7-02c7161cc0b2,14.889,provide back to the program and to the community not only the food that we all like to eat but but that workforce that will be knowledgeable will have hands in the ajna no matter where they're at and we'll know specifically the
+0140_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0f97140a-ff47-4e07-b124-f8da11103f4b,2.1,types of things that we need here
+0141_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c66a8a56-84bb-487b-8705-cd7a1b54561e,14.949,leigh and be able to take that forth and i'd like to see further that there are supports after this mentorship program so that we can continue to support those young farmers until they get to a point where they can actually begin to pay
+0142_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,712668b2-7c91-4ac8-8f42-4a048be3d5e5,14.741,back into the program because i always want to see a pay it forward but remembering where they've come from because if we can build that base there and maintain that strong foundation then that is one of the first steps not just self sustainability for food but food
+0143_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0478fd71-d0e2-47f5-8ee2-312cee4c24e1,2.55,security thank you
+0144_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8093825e-7a78-47f0-9588-82ee8f77f5f2,14.83,i think what we need to do is provide those spaces where we can start to look at that using material that we have here to grow our own our own soil
+0145_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,68bafaeb-e31c-42ec-9ffb-da43cde22148,14.53,farmers vegetable farmers those who even farm grain to some extent now that hemp is being talked about as a huge crop to look at you know working in a diversified and inclusive
+0146_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ecd285ae-9028-4fc5-8395-3875cb705a60,14.86,manner i think we really can keep a lot of the waist down from certain industries by utilizing it in other industries and that all of that together you know we can kind of again in a pay it forward manner use the m
+0147_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f11f268d-5c2d-4c54-b9e5-e2ed53fb1627,14.79,that i have this much better seeded inverse in livestock things with those rather than things with roots whether you call it in your which is exactly what it is or whether you call it garbage you've got to move it around and put it
+0148_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,403b536a-66cd-44c8-b791-b806af739185,14.74,somewhere to do any good with it in the old days when i was a young man garbage was dealt with by collecting it and the hog farmers would gladly take it and if you paid them to pick it up
+0149_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5c675f75-1d8d-4305-888b-979c42e4f929,14.95,and then they fed it to their pigs and then they sold their pigs they could make money on both ends of the transaction and it would work it doesn't work that way anymore the economics of raising livestock that
+0150_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ad1ec5fb-a342-46de-9c04-9ea96f60b251,14.83,way are not there how are you going to move your garbage around is it going to have steak bones in it is it going to have napkins in it how are you going to process it and handle it and make it make sense i'd sure
+0151_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2145bce6-1740-4705-946e-e9b541f94702,14.7,like to know you don't run around cow pastures picking up cow pies to use for fertilizer you go to places where there are a lot of livestock theodore's or cows and you get a lot of nor one time in order to use it for
+0152_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,014047f5-19d0-4059-b5f8-b2af689f699f,14.86,the consumer's mean tile meanwhile we have twenty thousand tons of food waste at the maui county dump and it does could be a valuable indigenous composting material so allan what plans do you have one
+0153_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8425dc64-589b-4f7d-a5d1-0e49287faf7d,14.77,minute to treat that food to become compost for farmers well my immediate plan is to run for county council so that i won't have to spend as much time moving the nor and garbage
+0154_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,45d155af-ccc5-45cd-82f0-8d12e0d469c8,14.89,make that work we'd love to change our garbage into energy into something useful but at what scale are you going to do it and are you going to make it economically viable and best skilled at listening that's what i
+0155_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7a62c483-7e19-43a6-b429-88a8a9522bbd,14.67,we know there are people on council who don't have very good listening skills and they're good people and i don't mean you know it is fat that thank you you see when that red thing comes up it means you're minute is over i'm my red green color blind sorry
+0156_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,10fbaa6d-47ac-472b-88bf-1c59c3a65c91,14.95,to regenerative farming practices when it comes to this type of nutrient recycling center and i absolutely believe that if we have the supports in place and at a small scale we can just grow
+0157_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9fe93a49-8037-4f74-970d-cd6244fd33d2,14.23,our next subject is food hubs our prefatory comment is across the nation good hubs are becoming solutions for centralizing food processing and distribution
+0158_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a4773fdd-1e7a-4bc1-938d-7ef5642a686b,14.59,increasing food production capabilities for small farmers by paving the way for reducing farmer costs our hawaii farmers union maoi chapters say this is an opportunity for creating
+0159_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c00f3091-c06f-4492-b510-1278d1547917,13.23,farm cooperatives further why farmers union five point program is working with the state wide farm to school initiative for growing food for the dio we school lunch program
+0160_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,14008da3-9b04-4bb4-bf7e-f47eeb4f30cb,14.59,would you prioritize it as a bill or procreation that you would stand behind introduce and or vote for if yes please describe benefits you can imagine for the citizens of
+0161_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5940bc8a-239d-4f1c-ad18-d32a5a789aae,14.97,healthy food financing initiative that you can find a healthy food access dot org there is the access the food access portal which also details quite a few funding sources i believe that a food hub here not only can
+0162_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3ce1c876-54ac-46ea-b3d2-1bd187e8f2a2,14.86,aggregate product coming in and we need to help our farmers think about their growing a product because when we look at it everything is value added it's not a tomato it's salsa it's a sauce you know these are the kinds of ways that we need
+0163_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,edda3563-eeb7-42e8-85aa-6e1f67576e4d,14.77,to get people thinking about the food that is grown here and i believe that with the food not only can we educate farmers but we can educate the public we can have agra tourism where we can have people going out and getting more in touch with their food because
+0164_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b9ea7405-4a50-40d0-a09a-03d9d7fd20e3,14.71,that's the issue here at hand today we are not in touch with our food we do not know where it comes from most of it is packaged and we do not know what's included in it and i think that's the crux of our getting ill and we need to take that back for our own h
+0165_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,45912b77-228b-474a-a215-80dca2e958b9,14.47,said is that if food hubs you want to have a commercial kitchen you give me a big affirmative on that i need a commercial kitchen one of the things i like to give to people one on sitting up in front of you and
+0166_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e73dc6e7-6ae4-43cc-8f8e-0559aeb5adaf,14.77,talking with you or to you camera or there is something very practical we're in a world of limited resources there's only so much that can get done one of the most difficult things th
+0167_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9894826c-6aec-431d-a0a0-721d25132927,14.91,council members have to do is say here's the pie i'm sorry you're not going to get a piece you're deserving you should have it women helping women i'm all for it but there's not enough to go how are we going to do it and got fifteen seconds w
+0168_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,30ff81c2-4a69-4223-8a82-4ba8382dd968,12.46,i'd suggest is looking at putting those needed commercial kitchens into our community centers because we already have a location we already have the structure and already have some degree a kitchen thank you
+0169_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0ee8946e-6191-48bc-9b28-418fc83d59c3,14.89,a workforce especially if they are involved in an apprenticeship program or if they're involved in more community jobs i think that's a very important thing to have in order and that changes through zoning
+0170_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,12e74cd0-17fa-4209-8600-953665be86fd,14.95,pay for imported amendments and implodes irrigation cost in other words a lot of expense if you're going to be a farmer what do you think it will take to make farming a more successful enterprise and what could you do about that if you were elected
+0171_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,34448a05-f2f9-470c-ad1d-002a3f21aadb,14.73,well the first thing is there's going to be a farmer we could simplify it a lot if we would just take the definition of farmer and say it's anybody who files a schedule have on their federal tax return people get bogged down in
+0172_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b89fa819-f676-46cc-93d7-f83694db09fa,14.89,conversations about how much money you have to make to be a farmer well there's no guarantee that when you take up the mantle of being a farmer that you're going to make any money at all and then if you do give it a number you must make ten
+0173_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e3629330-a7e1-4730-a9f4-e641493d114b,14.83,thousand dollars to be a farmer people will game the system i've got a ten thousand dollars go i'm going to sell you for your ten thousand dollars land so let's not spend a lot of time making it more complicated
+0174_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4a09071d-b3bc-44f1-ad11-a45bdac3a334,14.85,sleeping already the old madison containers are located all over this island and farmland and that's where your wolfers sleep and sleeping him next is where they sleep but i close my eyes and squint because i don't want to see stuff that i might have to tell
+0175_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,eb74a9aa-c6dc-4ac4-bc5c-2cb92b943bc6,14.71,somebody about but the farmers the entrepreneurs are doing what they need to do to be able to get by and get the job done thank you that's why my time is up well i think you've made your point you've made a good
+0176_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,56a9409a-7d02-45b2-be40-7ca6dc88bc3b,14.41,the proper tory comment b f seventy was a near disaster for farmers and ranchers that lease or own barge properties we need these lands protected from ever being seen at their market value
+0177_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,aea39ca6-0183-4a71-9dd9-2a7709fb2a49,14.98,same question what would you propose for getting lower tax rates on agricultural lands were real farming and ranching is happening and part two to this question is that assuming you will be on
+0178_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7d26b26f-375c-4896-85f1-e5d4dc6afe69,14.79,the budget and find acts committee where the budget you would look at you would look for other tax revenue to make up for lowering taxes for least real farm and ranch land i'm sorry that's somewhat
+0179_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3783c7b1-b11f-4951-9d51-e9b972b4e242,14.77,since it was first proposed the first time and we were able to get it voted down and the second time it looked like we had the votes figured out i didn't show up because i knew we had the votes figured out it got voted down and then i went down the
+0180_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6cb91fc9-6ed5-49cc-a1fb-1c60b4cce6c9,14.05,third time bringing with me you know the first time i got some of my clients to come along including one who just had a knee replacement surgery the third time i think i had had my knee replacement surgery
+0181_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,787c4fbc-609b-4e7f-a338-48091fde6046,14.83,agriculture is subsidized over this entire plant the larger the agricultural operation the more subsidy there is the small rancher and farmer
+0182_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3f6cd380-010d-4823-a3bf-d42e9cecbb36,14.88,and that's who's here in the audience tonight gets the least subsidy and you're the ones using your sweat equity and the dollars out of your pockets from your second or third jobs to support your agricultural habit
+0183_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0a34890d-c43c-4c02-9ee8-911320f06c6a,13.3,so what can we do well i got tired of going to the seventh floor of the county building to give testimony i got tired of looking at my clients sitting there
+0184_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,75de7874-f101-478d-a8d5-43da0e225c75,14.62,looking at the backs of the council people except for the chair sitting way up high above everybody else and i decided at one point in a very weak moment to try and do something about
+0185_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1ac430b7-ba3e-447c-bc83-3fb489d12b92,7.78,until the people who sit on the council have experience in agriculture and listen to us thank you
+0186_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9ac5a50d-79d4-4ea7-9d84-021e6f17ae76,12.84,where in the budget mr word scuse me where in the budget would you look for other tax revenue to make up for lowering taxes for least real farm and ranch land
+0187_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a068f7cb-0a92-4aa1-9705-23fdeecde92c,14.68,account farmers that did not include people who are actively farming and that was the wrong thing to do when we look at what we what we can do to support our farmers i think we need to look at ag conservation ease
+0188_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8394e086-3d39-44f9-91ac-39a56bdda499,14.44,ents where those farmers that agree and that the promise that this is what they're going to do is grow food you know that we allow them the conservation easements to help ease the burden of taxes on those
+0189_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4dc72a49-6485-4ef5-8888-a734f96bb957,14.53,specific properties whether or not they decide to build other other dwellings on it to how as themselves or their family or their workers i think that we very critically need to look at more
+0190_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,09fc06e2-8ac1-4523-8953-72fbc4c55d85,14.44,taxes for least parmalat and real farm and ranch land absolutely look at where the visitor industry gets its funding from i would take from the visitor industry funding first
+0191_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,866d4cbb-bc24-48b2-88cf-4c639e6fddf1,14.98,because we seem to have this or members of the council seem to have this idea that that industry needs to be funded above all else and while that does bring money into our economy we cannot eat from it we can't we need to eat from our ajna and so
+0192_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,48a72926-2158-4e3b-ad4a-8e58a3e1cc4e,5.04,i believe and i absolutely would on the budget committee look at that funding first
+0193_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,abba96ed-21e3-482c-93b2-cc6f4ee87deb,14.79,thank you well on the subject of eating food security and self sufficiency dream it could you in one minute tell us if barges of food stopped coming to maui from the mainland tomorrow how you would propose to
+0194_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,957c0f18-d3ac-4e92-bcf8-93bf75b414af,14.83,organize our food security for such a catastrophe easy question absolutely not an easy question because you know to me and i've i've looked up the definition of food security what
+0195_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8eb411b0-1527-4630-bf57-23dd4af0fe7e,14.92,that means is the access and availability of food for all regardless of whether or not you are economically advantage or disadvantage now mali county itself given if we were cut off from supplies by the barge right now we do not have
+0196_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3ad4544b-9e53-43f6-96cf-24d4ee762fd1,14.98,enough food to last us out that week we definitely don't and furthermore those who are at a better economic advantage than others will end up getting that food there's no doubt about it you know supply drives and demand drives the
+0197_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,35e781bb-f50d-4ea1-acd9-a1118bd1af21,14.98,market what we need to do and what i would like to do and hope is to support those small farmers those that are going to our farmers markets now and allow them the tech that they need the manpower the equipment whether
+0198_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,68ae1b1e-100c-486c-a99a-e49d87a2d215,14.28,it comes from county sources or not to help pull out that food harvest what we need and make it a community thing because if we all share we are we are in an island it is a kako thing we can we can get through it thank you
+0199_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6a466059-b5c7-4c3e-a4a6-15c1973dd65b,14.77,thank you one minute question is about buying and eating locally if the price of local food is unattainable for the average resident how can the county partner with its farmers to ensure that they get what they need to make a
+0200_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,32c06a9f-7ac9-4fe1-b349-a829b52b696c,14.77,one minute what i can say is that you've got to have food available if you're going to eat i've got a bunch of goats if you want some gold milk or some go meat i can make that
+0201_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,74ea76de-c4e2-4998-ac56-f021710c4a45,14.85,happen you want to go to a barter system we can all make that happen but if you really want food security the part of it that is most interesting to me is making sure we keep out the
+0202_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a94c4121-55ab-4022-9193-aff28c802890,14.53,ranchers throughout the state it started eating more sugar cane well sugar cane went belly up because of economics the real and mazing thing is that this plantation stayed alive for thirty forty years longer than the plantations on the other
+0203_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,89acb927-cbdb-4f2f-a5f4-c31d398757a6,14.34,collective of members who protect the interests of our family farmers from any practice that contaminates commodifies are compromises their ability to farm and market their products
+0204_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,634efeb9-0c20-4e6d-bb29-e91c7fd1d4d4,14.35,currently employed practices we don't support and i would say that don't work in one minute and starting with dr kaufmann what would you do to empower the whole why a department of
+0205_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4f5d5322-45e4-47f1-a5b7-ac881f784337,14.29,agriculture and the why department of hell by supporting bills that monitor pest a pot pesticide drift to protect our health and environment such as product testing soil
+0206_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1b613005-d1fa-4411-b159-b6ab9f5b7b6b,14.56,i want to take part of that question and say as a veterinarian i deal with chemicals all day long the wonderful thing about many of the chemicals that i deal with
+0207_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,59956c6a-3144-4878-9b22-cd19e5133d3f,14.98,the drug dealing their drugs their medicines what are you going to call these things and the words we use to describe things that can be helpful to maintaining the health of our pets there's a little dog over there if you got him on heartworm preventative it's one of the
+0208_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,05f53853-f8b8-40a9-9d87-2ea4c1a20e37,14.82,empowered it's just making them accountable they are not working within the parameters that are already there for just the basic supports for just the basic regulations and i think what needs to happen first is to get them to
+0209_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b2719f53-b0ce-4d61-a101-8c9d6a6bc402,14.29,over came burning and just the absolute attitude with which many in that department and and i may say even in the apartment of ag have towards the people bringing up very valid concerns
+0210_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,05580207-14ba-4f82-9c26-7a0f65e0be88,14.92,is disgusting and so it's not about empowering them they already have a motive of power it's about holding them accountable and responsible for not using that power and for enforcing rules for us for our benefit and the benefit of
+0211_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,396ce41c-cb0d-4f23-9baf-132a1f1caa69,2.85,our children thank you
+0212_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,51d231a3-6d42-44e6-90e8-c0ab766c4374,14.86,to make it profitable how are we going to grow any product on an economy of scale that will be profitable i don't know at this point we don't even know if there will be water in the central valley
+0213_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dfe229cf-5471-4e8b-abcf-a3871d4fc144,14.95,for the next three years it wasn't thirteen years as was stated earlier for the next three years there's going to be water coming through e m i after that the supreme court will rule or maybe sometime
+0214_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,180ba8b5-5553-42bd-92c9-28fa64c358c8,14.71,during the three years it'll rule where is the water going to go it is a public trust so it would be reasonable to suppose some of that would go back in the ocean for the environment some of it for people in the up
+0215_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,55aac832-ec0b-4da3-8e6b-ef537bd61c1c,14.8,closing presents for us with this particular crop first offers us an opportunity to remediate the soil because we need to do that quickly before we can actually start growing viable food i believe that will feed ourselves
+0216_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4808a899-b736-47d0-8895-7e2111178cab,14.68,i'd i do want to support farmers that commit to growing have answer mediated purpose and indeed identifying parcels for them to do that we don't have
+0217_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,21c11be4-415f-4a86-9b64-f12dfcd8d6c1,15.0,and they do have a history of working with that and so perhaps we can help people sense that there and have them come to us i mean it is very possible to have partnerships outside of the united states as we have in the past before
+0218_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,302b9543-a121-4c11-9b37-5d13032c5dd3,14.85,work here so you have concluding remarks about your position on agriculture and doors are a question you we wanted to be asked and you want to answer my concluding remarks i like to eat
+0219_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dd875258-15bc-43c6-87fd-49834f537641,14.92,i'm not a farmer i raise chickens for fresh eggs but i do see the benefit in just that small scale farming of sorts for myself and my family the benefits of eating something
+0220_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e7ac6a06-d6aa-448d-91ab-20eba81d7d5f,14.44,that i know exactly where it comes from and i know what it's been fed and and it's huge it's beyond physical sustenance it connects us to our i know and so i very much support agriculture and supporting
+0221_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,11501ee2-c2d1-4559-88aa-483b958f9cb2,14.89,ourselves and the people who call maui home who live here who grow here and i mean grow their families grow our food who lay their bones to rest here because it is all of us it is not those investments
+0222_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b1b6d918-f3bd-4e18-9884-9561b11cdb01,9.9,continue to support that in any way possible so thank you thank you allen your concluding remark
+0223_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bd5ab97e-ab03-44cd-b78b-a1cd0803a9f5,12.76,between us we have a total of five children under the roof and the wonderful thing about this family is that it includes blood of chinese hawaiian puerto rican
+0224_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,46f56162-a0f4-4fbd-9b30-a308352ff432,2.49,those children thank you
+0225_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,abb2c5b4-bd2f-4335-8845-373499c86d1a,14.86,advance so if we would start out what do we start out with you tiger you want to just take a minute to introduce yourself to our audience at here and in our viewing public one minute
+0226_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b250d02c-1ee7-44dc-a532-f6766e7a6a73,14.71,floor initiative that everybody has taken to understand what's happening on this island and that's it's a very odd thing it's a paradigm that's happening and we're just really lucky to have the opportunity i'm i'm really stand for being a local
+0227_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6c9b9752-173b-4517-831b-587fd1d8fa46,14.98,we've done a lot of agricultural demonstration biofuel crop demonstration over the last five years i've become very immersed in how to get those kinds of things funded at the state and federal level and i got expertise in a lot of the issues that have been talked about today so i'm
+0228_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,97681329-0dae-4f99-9949-768ee309dd65,14.74,really looking forward to these questions mahalo thank you so much i'm going to point out before i turn this over to mike that we have four people running on your ballot we have two of them here tonight so thank you very much for being with us here
+0229_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3f5e385c-b480-43d7-bb93-308900cb094f,14.68,in hawaii department of agriculture funded pilot nutrient cycling composting center on maui and what do you see and what do you see any and do you see any barriers that are currently in the way of
+0230_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0fdf901d-fa3a-4121-81e1-8dda6dfacd75,9.63,getting nutrients cycling under way and what can you do to help alleviate those barriers do you need me to repeat that there's a misprint here and i stumbled
+0231_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a78a0a97-4d2b-4269-b7b7-21d4cd2f1e5e,10.14,county management and the importance of having a county manager that would work together with the council because the council needs to be working with the administration on these initiatives not against
+0232_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cfcad222-2a27-46e0-91e3-3a19364d17db,14.98,composting with my grandfather since i've been three or four he always had a big bucket near the boathouse where we put the fish stuff we put all the stuff we carved up for the vegetables in the garden then he made sure that he would mix it with a little bit of grass for we cut the lawn and we put it back in
+0233_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,67f0f2f8-1bf8-4f7c-ab3c-f0ea1c550cd7,14.92,supports the concept of farmers living on the land they farm and the land they lease through an agricultural land trust what ideas would you propose in moving this direction so that it can be actualized that people can live on their
+0234_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8df76363-02bf-4678-a01d-8df084630034,14.74,i do it the universe you know we've got three hundred students in the process we just graduated fifty and was another hundred right behind them so we don't have this big army of farmers ready to take on but we're starting to prepare myself being in the private sector in business
+0235_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,23964e51-d0b0-4147-9676-faffc4e99dd5,14.95,move in this direction and you know what what would you propose so they can really happen well thank you see and there's actually already a movement to make that happen and my friend dale boehner has been working on that he was the former head of the coastal
+0236_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,03bb7fe3-19ab-4a35-8b81-6d7b479b16bb,15.0,organic egg park do you have any idea what became a loose end do you think we should continue to pursue this concept in the next county budget session well i do think that we need to continue to proceed maybe not with that particular piece of property i
+0237_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4dee9f10-c827-4c22-844c-4c9b187dfd12,14.86,and i see this as somebody who worked for six years trying to get biofuel production tax credit passed i made it up to the fifth year got it passed didn't get it signed by the governor this year we actually got it passed and signed so it does take a lot of work to get it takes a lot
+0238_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1c6f338f-d764-4705-98ca-570f63323922,14.95,of collective work it takes a lot of people coming forward and explaining why this is so important i think it can happen i think it needs a bigger voice and i think it needs an advocate from the county council at the state legislature i have a lot of experience
+0239_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,eaebdf19-7fca-45d1-9831-90022c4dfbc3,14.92,t louis key in line have been used to dispose of personally filtered sewage water the county lost the lawsuit citing violations to the clean water act and faces potentially millions in fines and has spent two point two five million on
+0240_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,eec50cde-4608-47fa-8100-be211cc8d280,13.9,allowed for both of you you'll have one minute what will you do to initiate a citizens task force and request proposals for this for the state of the art treatment plants
+0241_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e91b5477-f677-4368-81af-e18d059b6bcf,2.34,for a state of the art treatment plants in
+0242_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f13401c9-3350-499c-b711-3599fa991caa,14.77,so we can in the use of injection wells that are harming the ocean environment well that's a great question because it's already happening there's already a citizens task force in istari working on this i went to a day long workshop back in may at the
+0243_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,081ebdaf-92d5-4b58-b804-30d48c9d3348,14.97,areas are the worst even the line it gets all the attention because of the lawsuit but that that that is turning into a citizen citizens task force and i would support that going forward we looked at various kinds of technologies and we ascertain that that's the
+0244_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,09b1fb4b-0799-4f1a-96e6-686f3d8f40bc,14.65,bows and you each have kind of a separate question here one minute question so the farmers union is a solution based action oriented collective of members who protect the interests of our family farmers from any practice
+0245_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fbf3719f-704c-4118-b7e0-eec2d7abf046,14.83,contaminates commodifies or compromises their ability to farm and market their products so truth in advertising that's what the farmers union stands for they're actively involved in approving the effica
+0246_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ce716bdd-d75f-46dd-8c78-c42ff9b9523a,14.97,organic and regenerative practices for field practice and economic efficiencies and the idea is to replace currently employed practices that the union the farmers union does not support so we'll start with you this time
+0247_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f2b9dffd-2ea7-497d-9cc1-73f7198ca261,14.8,as well as human health b and the environment so would you initiate and support a county pilot program such as a testing for b pollen and honey to monitor pesticide drift
+0248_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,84c7be5a-4e2e-497b-8019-fa0780a146c0,14.77,harm people and the environment we would you be willing to support the biological applications if yes sure why and how you would support moving in this direction if no give you a reason why i'm not i'm not in
+0249_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,69b5ada5-4cff-4970-b482-2a26df00333b,14.98,concerns because there are several concerns about invasiveness about cross pollination and some other things like that so we need to get together and open up the discussion talk about those things as well as the benefits tiger who wants to grow the g a o is actually doing a survey right now to find out who
+0250_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5d6bd098-8d69-47c6-b519-f6fafd911e55,14.95,for you to wrap things up and you have one minute each to offer any concluding remarks about your positions on agriculture or if there's a question that you would have liked to answer but it didn't get asked you can ask
+0251_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ac957a7a-dd8b-4dd8-9145-2168ed90bf15,13.989,candidates sounds maoi consul c remember there are four candidates on the ballot we're only seeing two tonight so keep that in mind very good job thank you very much because
+0252_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,74641a0e-62cd-441f-9bc4-c8ab99832e74,14.889,blessed tonight and thank you for staying this long into our presentation we're going to start off with a giving each of you a one minute chance to introduce yourself tell the voters a little bit about where you are and i'm going to start with mr carney at the end
+0253_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c0aab41e-a480-46a2-88c5-282a587fae0d,14.67,here with a degree in education and eventually started being a teacher had a high school prior to doing that i got into the private sector and had some experience in that sector of trying to survive and make a living and start
+0254_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5eb0504b-20e0-4f12-8d68-40e7d5769ace,14.86,current at the height i was growing probably fourteen thousand pounds in two thousand and eleven of ample bananas and so i'm like many of you put my hand into the into the thirty and
+0255_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8eb85e0f-569a-4ff6-a35a-23e8615f4e4f,7.47,on the office that we are all trying to serve and so with that i look forward to the conversation this evening thank you
+0256_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,705654b6-48e8-4dc0-ac99-cee2823e3429,12.4,agriculture and most importantly food and it is a critical point here on this island and with interest i have in the production of food thank you
+0257_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c05dc036-fce4-49f4-b324-54827cd6b61a,14.88,have created thousands and thousands and thousands of tons of good soil amendment class a e p a a approved for use and food and fruits and vegetables and that
+0258_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d3d7c683-a4a0-4950-885a-f8c630fd14e8,14.98,was my opening act so i'm very very happy to be here among the farmers i grew up in farm country in montana you can you conclude because we're at our one minute here and that's what the red means
+0259_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,85ed852b-12a1-4740-aff1-abb0e4314880,14.8,law joe blackbird i want to take you back in time just got promoted to the hazardous materials captain at the my fire department took an oath to protect life and environment but very lucky got sent a way to the top training in the nation
+0260_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,777695d5-0353-4274-8655-9016e59ca85a,14.73,incidents the one i'm most proud of is i went to school one day and a teacher handed me a box full chemicals and she said can you take a and i said well the fire department doesn't allow us to take them and i looked at the bottles some looked like they had
+0261_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,11918436-08c5-4360-a6a8-9dda99072e6e,7.15,day some of the firefighters still look at me and say you should have done that because it affected your career but i did thank you
+0262_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,39dcb722-dce9-4720-8ad3-6c9614b741e1,14.77,you in case we didn't explain before we have a lovely time keeper and when you see the yellow you have fifteen seconds left and the red means one minute we were there so our first questions on the workforce development you've probably heard this a few
+0263_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a8cfcfb4-531f-4e28-9b10-f0708c109968,14.91,times this evening but our farmers are aging and we all agree we need to grow a new generation of farmers and they need to be equipped with the skills to be really successful at their farming enterprises so the farmers union
+0264_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,08fb5f2d-c2bc-4b14-8ed3-945982c91abb,14.86,has a farm apprentice mentoring program f e m and it's about to begin its third year with county funding so the question is and we're going to start with a legal this time if the farmers union would have come to the budget
+0265_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4c1c9177-5e08-4aba-b056-4aaa825fc367,14.77,finance committee at the consul asking that our fam graham be permanent line item in the budget and in order to demonstrate that the county has ongoing support for growing our next generation of farmers what is shoes would you
+0266_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2664a746-bb11-4eea-a9b1-bc6f74a83451,14.77,want to have raise before making such a decision other words what would you want to know before making such a good decision so starting with the legal one minute i really would not have the issue because you know it's it's a
+0267_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,656e17b0-ea75-42e5-a5b8-77334f266b42,14.92,demand that we have that is real right now on our side we need to invest in our future and we need to invest in our farmers and farm idjit cation so that we can have people on
+0268_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dccf582c-3eb5-4a5a-a6d3-ff7e509d07d2,14.86,is only point four percent not even or is it less now but not even a half of a percent is invested in agriculture and in that arena of agriculture how much of that is
+0269_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,29f108b3-0bbd-485b-b0aa-4b476222b38d,14.38,thank you you need the question repeated or can you remember from when we get it basically if this came with the budget committee would you support it and would you support it being a line item every year and what would you need to know in order to make that decision
+0270_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,944fd718-0574-40ab-95b4-199950006d7b,14.8,ok i would definitely support it i'm all in favor of forth and new generation of farmers and what i would need to know is all the data that my council people my colleagues
+0271_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,80e9cb5d-c864-4d0b-a921-285952420f2b,14.92,that so that's what i would be looking for how can we make sure that this gets through and i would need to have all the information possible in order to have an order to create a really good
+0272_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3472df88-7e0f-4521-9530-89ee9cb45440,15.0,breakdown of costs what are the administrate of costs how many people are being benefited how is it going to carry on we know it's important but everybody who comes before the consul has their own story and their own ta
+0273_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f177bf4e-e4b6-4dcb-8410-d7c4b7e21151,14.8,amount of money and an unlimited amount of requests so basically i would sit on even help you look at how you can tailor your presentation to make it palatable to the powers that be because
+0274_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4155fac5-1d6e-4b98-9c7e-7159fca15e17,14.52,income so i think what joe said is very important you need to make sure that you have the performance of a project in this case for a fund you need to make sure that it's performing and if it is performing then you can start
+0275_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,11199458-32c2-42e4-9cb4-942383bbd376,14.89,discussing holding on or if it's doing above what performance it was presented with then you can get expanded funds as far as permanent funds that's why we have other funds that got dedicated funds and that was passed
+0276_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,64d41e5d-508b-4b82-9322-2faccd3f78a4,14.83,by ordinance and so this is something that would have a potential to get a dedicated permanent fund but that again you've got to go through steps to do that i know earlier miss king from south maui as a candidate talked about how long it's for her to get
+0277_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a31d9ce7-7df4-4a49-93ad-246ae2578f73,14.5,project here was to to build a compost but i didn't do that alone i had a team of people i had tim gunter from this community standing right there with me saying yes there is a market for this stuff we need this
+0278_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,057c4b06-8137-4a94-8af9-1a6d2423ed7b,14.77,i did fall down because i take the grass and i put it into my terrill as mulch and how you fall off a lot more you're going to have to ask my wife about that but i love the thought i'd like to know more about it
+0279_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ddd7e908-0ee8-45cf-b424-09fa59db1b5a,14.29,initiating something within our own agricultural subdivision to do compost and spun thing that we have there were already generating i think tens of thousands of pounds of food out of that subdivision every year
+0280_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e4586727-f41f-41e5-b18d-3664ceeb6775,14.62,every year and i think we have the capacity to to start doing something there one of our challenges would be we have a property there that supposed to be dedicated for the park we may go to the county council and ask them to consider waiving the park instead
+0281_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,63ba0b36-cbef-4043-84a6-7b5432b125d3,14.85,you no no i'm good one of the situations we have is our recycling program has really gone downhill what we'd rather rather do is recycle from the site instead of trying to separate somewhere
+0282_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,88990bb6-4fc7-4b19-baf7-0468d6b0742f,14.98,else and so the idea would be to get that food waste and i'm not sure how the process would work into the hands of the people who could use it my example edge pretty good though is the pig farmers who go around to the restaurants and pick up all the
+0283_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b0252704-3790-4ea8-8de0-cc2f27b82207,14.65,food waste well there's not in a pig farmers for the food we sold how we would do that i'm not sure but i would like to see a recycling program that includes food waste because that's nutrients that can go back into the soil and the land
+0284_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6656567a-8818-462d-b14b-1887978db7e5,14.88,way of getting nutrients cycling under way and what can you do to help alleviate those barriers maybe start with dane please forgive me mike if you if you will please if you can repeat the question i
+0285_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cd17fea8-32a7-40d4-bcea-69b4954f4fdb,14.44,barriers that you would see that are kind of in the way now of getting something like this under way to have a nutrient cycling center and what could you do to help kind of get those barriers out of the way
+0286_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7e6887e5-a332-4dac-a08b-20b0a2a32005,14.62,this is for each of dane a leak and handle so each of you have one minute address the same question you got a separate question thank you state department of bags so again we're running for the
+0287_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6a562769-6eb8-4244-a910-3384ac629708,14.94,county council so little bit difficult for us to have the jurisdictional authority over that so i want to see that first and foremost obviously it would be a good idea because it's a step in the right direction i
+0288_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8a30065e-ea3d-4b5e-bed0-1af43bdb176c,14.86,think everybody in this room agrees that what we're talking about the subject matter is i think we're all raising our hand and saying yes this is good stuff that we're talking about but from the context of what can we do as council members i think that's what's important and so
+0289_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,489ad1f9-3766-4bd0-8fb7-a01726fac9aa,14.86,when we i think we need to start looking at sites available land if the county has existing land that they could provide to work with the state on the pilot program if it's not state land if the county can
+0290_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2323db15-9dfc-4591-b4b8-39d0ff17543e,14.83,come up with something in partner with the state on some of these pilot projects if we see some success to it then now the county has more of a leg to stand on in supporting these things beyond a pilot project but again we need to stay within the context of
+0291_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,72d5fdc9-aa03-4698-a659-880f22797071,12.0,what we have control over and authority over and so that's my response to the state department of egg question on a pilot program yes but what can we
+0292_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9488e66c-d9c2-4ab1-a6ff-2fc5873e74b9,14.35,do i would deal with what they shared it is the funding is coming from the state department of agriculture and this is a project however my understanding i think it was targeted for something like a million dollars i think is too little
+0293_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2418598d-d712-4869-8841-abbae7eee925,6.0,so i think we need to be a part in a partner in this with the state moving forward thank you
+0294_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4a767dfa-969b-43c8-822b-7c6a1965b901,14.98,ok there is an e p a hierarchy for food waste and for food for first people the second is animal food right the third is composting and then we go to any type of energy and then we go to
+0295_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,de5febb1-9c41-4dad-8b0b-cbc592ef4ba6,14.77,the landfill that is the hierarchy now i have been involved in recycling like for a long time guys and we have funded pig farms even just last year when i was not at
+0296_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ed872545-e146-46b9-a501-b4241986d9ff,14.95,because if you intend i'm selling that compost you have a big wad of environmental red tape to cathro it but i think red tape specialist this this is from the horse's
+0297_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2dcce2d9-9525-4f38-89dc-788322a35eaf,14.97,so across the nation these these are becoming solutions for centralized food processing distribution it cetera et cetera our farmers union chapter see this is a great opportunity for creating farm cooperatives and we also see it
+0298_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1a1a3baf-8b38-4b88-a5ed-8831b256595c,14.59,as a way to make sure that we have enough food for this program for the department of education to buy food for our farmers so our question to get down to the question i'm not reading the whole intro i'm i'm
+0299_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8a361794-237d-48ef-84ba-df861ceeb65b,14.41,funds in other words you know get some county funds the state would throw in something and there be some matching for federal funds would you make this a priority bill or appropriation that you would stand behind introduce
+0300_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6bf6960a-0e27-4420-9e05-aeb676be8b09,14.98,farmers union are the people who want this to happen so you'd have to put together the package make it make sense and then i would push it forward from my end of the situation talked a long time ago about i always supported organic
+0301_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,92f6b48e-022f-46d2-af33-43eb6e1fd865,14.56,farms how we do it where we do it where we get the water again are going to be the key issues and what we're going to grow thank you great dane you want to jump on that you need any repeating there no yeah ok thanks and i'm going to
+0302_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ed8f3696-4383-451e-8327-7a8c4cb9c3ed,13.62,of your peers and your your colleagues who have different mindsets and convincing them of the benefit of this type of thing i'll give you an example just to give you an idea
+0303_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,695d7745-1fa1-424a-870d-bdd2a44acfd7,14.98,even if you have advocates for something and i see susan bradford here a completely different subject matter we want to preserve several properties in front of a beach and you have advocates that support that and so you
+0304_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,95c72858-50ed-479e-bed9-2dde5a0b0f11,14.95,get somebody who goes in champions it and then at the very end because of other things that are going on money available to be of limited fun or lack of availability of funds people change their mind and they compromise
+0305_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1b19bf3e-75ca-4a38-92d0-d55a08301100,13.87,it and so they're not able to get everything that they wanted to get the bottom line is there's a lot of navigating through the system based on what you just said you've got to navigate it through thank you your question one minute
+0306_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,752efc46-9e37-4bf0-b9ea-c484280aa283,14.7,island is tourism and we need to look at other opportunities of economic development i strongly believe that answer will come to us in the form of food production but to get food production and agriculture up to
+0307_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c50099d5-0ac3-431d-b67c-9132a306bf9c,14.8,speed we need a lot of farmers from the farmer printed side growing we need the level of food production at that level to where we now have merits for a processing center and that's where the food h
+0308_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,30cc1c32-b6b1-4c7b-be0d-cd81edbe056c,14.85,because because navigating through the system to get something actually funded that is new it's not impossible i know because i've done it for years with recycling but it takes on awful lot
+0309_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d2bf5eb9-72cd-49e1-8b79-134fcf5cff8e,14.83,sometimes a lot more time than what you would think so again i go back to the data i go back to the the business plan i go back to all of the details that people would want to know if they were responsible for
+0310_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8a27f9af-05e3-4cbd-b13a-761b7bc1f785,14.92,spending public funds and that's what i would need in order to you know fully push this forward and that would be like joyce said joe said we're as council people we cannot function in a in a
+0311_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7d961b3b-7549-4c74-9719-c2e9404b47e5,13.63,vacuum we have to have the community support behind pushing this government into new ways of doing things new ways of doing of thinking thank you thank you
+0312_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,52347478-d35e-4c0a-9663-4f7186b3cd2e,14.59,our next areas farm land zoning and affordable land for us to begin with show our organization supports the concept of farmers living on the land they farm and lease through an agricultural land
+0313_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,05eef87b-bd67-4f47-9984-949146074ab0,13.2,something that could work but i would start with the u s d a and sit down with them as to how they could provide funding so you guys can realize your dreams thank you thank you again one minute
+0314_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,31699535-0695-4206-a019-e8080f0f74fd,8.35,more options for farmworker dwellings including temporary structures such as the new trend of tiny houses and
+0315_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c0d2fe98-ef4c-4eab-a201-6616202fa164,14.98,i don't have i don't frankly i don't have the idea of how to make that happen and again you know it comes down to engaging those who have the expertise in those respective fields whether it's for
+0316_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b5d9eb84-784b-428f-99db-7aa36f52a63f,7.17,forth with good long term policy changes now if it deals with changing existing then we have to look at that thank you d
+0317_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,57c5ba0a-a5c0-478e-aea1-27b1b49e876c,14.83,arming a more successful enterprise and what will you do about that if elected go back to the future ok so with that we must learn from our past
+0318_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e1aca895-2f2b-47db-99b1-0eb88319ffc9,14.86,utilize the u s d a system they give of three hundred thousand dollars for a farmer what if we have ten united farmers and all of them got that application of three hundred thousand as three million dollars that they could utilize in the pool
+0319_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e6faa076-50fe-4edf-baa7-4d24a9dbdd16,14.92,one of the things that would happen would have to happen is that our building permit process is broken we have to fix that we have zoning we have lots of regulations on what type of housing is permitted and where is the water
+0320_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5983c2dd-7673-4cc7-8c27-2a2cc12f86f8,14.92,meter that's an issue also if you're going to be living on the last and where is that water meter for your house and the infrastructure but at the same time we have to take a look at things like
+0321_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6823d32d-ba97-49bd-af97-ca39588cf113,14.83,composting toilets we've got to take a look at you know catchment water other ways of actually surviving on the land that people have done for years that we'd have regulated ourselves out in in the
+0322_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,89a3f699-1733-43f8-bf14-bfdea32ab5ac,1.83,process of becoming a government
+0323_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,349f980b-d63a-4205-82a2-74b007b40878,14.89,really wanted to make the point that we need maui county on board to really support a positive image for the future of agriculture here not look for more ways
+0324_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,07d3dd75-f2fd-42bd-8f26-4b8d91a9557b,14.4,to make money off of it so your question would be this is for each of you and i guess we'll start with joe this time because we did with hanna what would you propose for getting lower tax rates on
+0325_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4df493be-cfd5-4882-a631-f6a7f649fe71,14.73,or real farming and ranching is happening and part two assuming you'll be on the budget and finance committee where would you be looking to make up for what you subsidize a
+0326_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b1df9862-3de4-4a90-9a67-433127a07e87,6.52,land in other tax revenues joe do i have to go first on this
+0327_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7735fdc5-4af6-4652-b740-560bc6d65eae,14.85,avocado trees but they're not bearing and i have a nice house so i don't know where i would fall in this category i think we've got to go back to what the planning department has been doing which is making you do farm plan
+0328_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6cd9547e-7afc-48ca-8ba6-453bfd9c29ff,14.83,that they would come out and check the farm plant and if you were following the farm plan you would get discounted rate and they're actually doing that somewhat not but i discount it a little more where you would make up the
+0329_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4c67de21-9fd5-40c8-abd8-3d0a81c3dccc,14.89,difference boy that's tough because if you go out after probably the lowest tax rate which is a residential people you're not going to get reelected so i don't know the answer to that part of the question th
+0330_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,044c933f-f4f8-4e9d-b99c-de75729d7e98,14.95,you thank you very much well dan this hot potato is in your lap here so i served as the budget in finance here for two years in two thousand and five and two thousand and
+0331_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,681f76cb-d280-418d-8508-82d23617e08d,14.74,six so not only was i in the middle of it i was on the share that at the facilitate this type of discussion and so a joe touched on it a little bit when we're looking at ag we have to make sure that the guys who are
+0332_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e1142ce0-62b3-41bf-82ce-d95989f4b52b,14.82,claiming an egg and classification that they're doing ag and if they're not then they're going to get they're going to get charged more the other part of it is where do we come up with the difference probably one of the top this one
+0333_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,62fd0d7a-f7b1-4e9e-a532-f0ff927eaa55,14.74,higher tax burden they are also impacting us the most we still need to look at trimming the additional monies that they use for marketing it instead let them go through the marketing on their own so it's not
+0334_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,02ad3c11-1a88-40ce-bde9-f42196c6bc21,14.77,about cutting them off completely but i think there needs to be a weaning weaning of monies towards that for the marketing aspect of our industry to support the additional industries that we want to lift up that's my answer
+0335_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d6f2c54b-f891-4645-a390-983a913e7447,14.77,seventy proposal that i would incorporate and have that moving forward and that was the funding of the two or three staffing position to go out and verify if these guys
+0336_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2e9f2bdf-9fdd-424c-941d-b408177ba41a,14.8,are actually farming so that we can then bring back and collect our tax rate on a true level it's just you know they file the paper there's no follow through in the taxation collection so
+0337_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,74d3619d-3df5-4b74-9510-23cf414ff631,14.26,we were all open in getting increased staffing to to bring in that property tax collection i don't have enough time to bring out another idea but thank you
+0338_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e38a1386-5cee-4cf2-b499-d9e687a29a7b,14.92,ok you've heard it all i've heard it all and i'll go with this guy i think he has some really great ideas now one of the things that we do as policy makers is we have to distill out the
+0339_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,979e005c-be2b-412f-8499-2ab3073a7cce,14.73,values of the community and put them into laws and rules that we all agree to live by and it is critical for the value of farming and raising food in this
+0340_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,357a3820-0e23-4008-939c-37d38a7d98a7,14.65,community be raised and that we place more value on that aspect as a community and i think we can rely on your organization and maybe some others to actually push that forward but it's
+0341_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1c62a430-7f27-4108-91e4-f30e60d5c7db,14.5,actually the community pushing hard that makes the government why do i know this is that that's how i got here do you think the government wanted to recycle no it was the community they
+0342_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c012ffeb-2765-42e8-acb6-ac86e177862e,11.8,the government into into recycling so i know that that can happen i know we can do that was sustainability and food production i know it thank you a
+0343_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b5a5cd76-2542-45b1-b80c-af2b83e66096,14.86,catastrophe and you know i think it's something we all fear that this could happen we basically have to get everybody together that's farming and people who even are farming and start using the fallow
+0344_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,591f0a93-633b-4e26-99cd-aaff63b35e60,14.65,land that we have in his community we've got probably over a hundred thousand acres of fallow land right now so food security is critical to this community i don't think we've ever thought about what's going to happen when our community gets cut off
+0345_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,40654864-f5c6-46aa-a905-5132c65173fa,11.95,to agricultural as their main base and we've moved away from that tremendously in the last few years and i sure hope it doesn't come back to bite us thank you thank you
+0346_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2f7f10f6-8293-4018-ba6a-ec6b8ed27cf6,14.74,everybody gets their own question on this round dane the whole why farmers union designed its five point strategy for helping make farming prosperous all achieving hawaii's food and feel self
+0347_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8f9d019e-8826-497b-a937-12f8cd807edf,14.62,so i'm going to touch on that with the fifteen seconds that i have left the charter is set up where you can call an emergency and we would probably activate communication between our first local state and federal government to figure out how we're going to deal with the media see of the issue that you described in that
+0348_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5ec87729-0e21-474b-ae9d-2f99879adb93,7.53,question and so there's there's ways that are set up through charter that we would approach that thank you
+0349_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,62485fe1-0ad3-45f3-9974-c26fc5fdb7c2,14.47,feed people so so we need to make sure that food is available now smoothed sovereignty you have a choice you have a choice to plan for that you have a choice to to take an indigenous
+0350_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d145b14d-54ec-47bd-b97a-9ce86e16ad39,5.35,so to prepare for disaster preparedness food sovereignty allow the
+0351_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,56a71430-11aa-4e3a-9c8c-713a2f7a8b15,12.55,purchase preference on locally grown food i think that would go a long way for establishing the stability of the marketplace which is i think what you were talking about the basics thank you
+0352_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,67d1e2d6-7208-4a64-b147-277262a667e1,14.92,well i only have a couple more questions thank you for all sitting through yeah we're at water now and this is another one where you each sort of have your own separate question i'm going to start over a dane's in there a
+0353_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fbd7c859-f449-4010-99b6-2e915f6e4590,14.94,n a one minute question we have all these grandiose ideas for agriculture on maui but we're still looking at serious water availability issues and we have multiple entities controlling access to our waters we also have an old and
+0354_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,de7e4f22-d87e-43d6-b1ef-b4f07c48835b,14.83,kind of you know creaky delivery system that needs repair and or replacement so how do you as a candidate see this needed infrastructure to be taken care of while dealing with the multiple
+0355_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,655e9e19-de17-4dce-990b-3a04d56030d0,14.95,issues with the the old water delivery systems you know the pipelines the ditches and they're going to need repair and replacement but we have multiple entities that all want to kind of control them so as a candidate how
+0356_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,475d16e9-c0ee-40f2-9aa9-7330db569b5d,14.46,do you see that we could actually get these things you know to keep running and not step on the toes of all the you know this water company and that water company and this former
+0357_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6b234e1b-2754-4d02-af4b-d35efaa349ce,14.85,plantation and so forth i think we need to recognize again it comes down to jurisdictional authority and what we have the capability of doing we need to try and
+0358_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,48b28608-937a-47f6-a39f-42b4bee21256,14.62,do as much as we can on our own without depending on the other entities that you talk about and example not on ag water but on drinking water was make a policy that
+0359_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1e2fa032-2077-4907-8ea4-18648f2876bc,14.74,controls how water is going to be controlled the show me the water bill which by the way i introduced the original framework to that before i left office and it became law and it's something that's going to carry forward for future generations i
+0360_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0aaf1b26-c577-4eb3-8b1f-ffdbab4f0efb,14.89,think even with the onslaught of people trying to challenge it now and try to repeal it even that was a step that was taken because it was something that we had control over that we could do at the county level and not have to worry
+0361_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cf00e32a-8926-4ab1-a12f-2cd3d5df85be,14.38,need to keep using these systems gets put in while dealing with all the multiple you know plantations and entities who have been controlling the water or who wish to control the water ok well water's a public trust in the
+0362_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0e42359b-64f4-4adc-8910-835ea6bd91ed,14.83,infrastructure may or may not belong to the county and or different entities i would take a look at at would it be possible to actually by eminent domain take over that infrastructure and have it that be managed
+0363_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3fa4c80d-a7dd-4fc5-bb45-44eaa3c6328a,14.58,companies belly up and or is not putting the money into maintaining the system and i think it's critical that we take a look at now just one part of it but like all of it and how are we going to make sure that what we
+0364_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,eae918cc-f1a8-4b78-8c4a-9375297e4ae9,14.56,have we can actually maintain this maintain for the betterment of our whole community thank you joe we have a slightly different question for you related how did i think that would
+0365_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1763732a-977a-4653-9e9a-f6f42c5bfda5,14.92,i told you the beginning you would have different questions what steps would you take joe to protect maui's water resources from being controlled by outside corporate interests boy that's a really
+0366_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ca7022dd-1fd5-48dd-ac38-cab2286d6637,14.77,difficult situation because you've got so much legal situations going on with all of it right now and it's costing millions of dollars for everybody who's trying to go through the state water commission to
+0367_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,09247e2a-8aba-4904-bdc8-60c5a48107fc,14.43,get water rights the problem you have is if you put say a company like e m i out of business that's thirty five employees and you're going to inherit all the legal challenges that they face i would
+0368_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4143369e-4824-4f52-bb74-c8144768dfb5,14.76,everybody just sit out try to figure this thing out without hiring attorneys without hiring experts without hiring a permanent bright experts because at the end of the day the money we're spending just on legal challenges
+0369_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3f349426-9340-45e6-b110-9e40fef9e249,14.92,alone we could probably improve the systems get the water allocated for everybody's use and walk away from this thing if this is not going to end and we can talk about oh yeah this is what we're going to do it's not going to end there's a part of rights issue
+0370_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e5dc85d4-5ca6-4c91-a869-de8ed5172fc7,14.92,given the risk of corporations controlling public water would you support state acquisition of a and b e m i water diversion and transmission system to ensure fair distribution and pricing in accordance with the public trust
+0371_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2bc9c4ed-621f-46dc-a8b1-6305f004b370,14.74,can't we you know the issue i look at i mentioned it the other night it's we have we don't have a water problem we have a water management problem and if you look at the thirty six thousand acres in the central valley
+0372_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,00c106ee-54ee-44a2-be0b-8f06806eb0fd,14.47,and all the roadways that there are and if you turn all those roadways into water catchment opportunities and you create the swales and just aim it on the pool why the question you've got to answer is does it rain
+0373_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,08008987-8477-43a3-84f7-7cadbe1a07e3,14.83,the answer is yes how much and when it rains it will fill the put a wise without having to pull water from the forest so we protect our natural resources and we just got a little that system
+0374_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1782d7ca-6690-4fae-807d-755d978677d3,4.83,of agro chemical irrigation is antiquated thank you
+0375_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b5cec0b8-dc83-4cc5-8534-2350dad8cc8d,1.11,moving on to the next
+0376_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,21f33f4c-6375-4eb5-9994-22c3a6350d4b,14.41,who protect the interests of our family farmers from any practices that contaminates commodifies or compromises their ability to farm and market their products the wife farmers union is
+0377_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c1053d04-783f-4433-804e-6d626fe659d2,14.43,and that don't work will start with jane when it has been proven that there are biological applications that can provide solutions to agricultural production issues would you be in
+0378_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a1889dd5-54bb-4e1e-a23c-e92449566542,14.29,support of promoting these over practices that use other substances which are well known hormonal disruptors and personage and that have been found to cause physical harm to both people and environment
+0379_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f599c90d-54b8-4e6f-b857-8910c75ee02b,14.32,if so please share why and the sense you have on how to support this direction toward biological solutions and we're asking all four people the same question one minute each oh we're not oh
+0380_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,da737f63-00ad-46f7-ba49-a1767f575ee6,14.49,recreation department and wherever we can apply it in our county another it's where we're in control of it where we're not going to be dealing with state or federal agencies that will be overseeing our actions
+0381_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3aff8eb7-f8b1-496e-ab36-90baf355722c,13.03,are alien species whatever we're dealing with in our parks how we spring what we're doing in the parks and we look at the alternatives and apply it at the county level and see how it works and we go from there
+0382_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,51c0089f-c574-4f22-afee-7ee7368120d3,14.77,into the laws by which we all live with that in mind i'm thinking that possibly the question would be would be act as a as a council ban the use of these other items in favor of the new items i don't
+0383_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,35559c7d-2f8a-44d4-af5c-dced90daf0ba,14.97,think sell but i do and i'm with dana on the whole process of a pilot project i mean that's how i sold the development of the coke composting project to this county and boy i
+0384_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,21227460-1661-4692-a305-73bb1f311796,14.47,just started that and it just took off like wildfire i was surprised and and if we can get one thing where we have the data where we can actually prove then this would be good and this is the council we passed the budget
+0385_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bfeecdc6-b053-4513-9c31-aef47f1908bb,14.32,and so what we'd have to do is we would have to fund a pilot project within the county that only focused on the biological are alternatives that would also that would mean you the community who are going up with the
+0386_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,330ad9c6-3763-48d1-bc1e-3c598fb292d3,14.65,parks and talking to the people at the parks would you be willing to and then having it into the budget because i got to tell you if we had council people shove something into the budget it may or may not get done whether the
+0387_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f2648a75-ba12-447a-bd43-8b2d9c09ee7b,14.64,they're already being paid already there and have them expand their scope to do air water and soil sampling here in the community we know that we're using a lot of pesticides and we know we have drift and these
+0388_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0c7d1a9e-e500-4579-a6f6-fff941abbf1f,14.95,people are professionals they're trained and we're paying them to be in the station and instead of knowledge as we do for an emergency i'd like to get them out in the field when we have concerns in the community it's a very low
+0389_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d9116da1-eb5c-498e-8ecf-89e42acc86cd,14.86,cost solution i'm a member of the local emergency planning committee we get grant money all we have to do is change the thought process that it's not an emergency it is all right we don't know what i found about lately
+0390_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c1cafa41-cd92-412f-b10a-44c0f680d34c,14.73,of me so what we can do is use our only local resources fundament it's not going to be that hard and when they actually get any emergency response to this kind of situation they'll be better prepared a much smarter about how to
+0391_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ab53c3a4-975b-4dfa-a078-72e044e1773c,14.52,wide department of agriculture and the why health department by supporting bills that monitor monitor pesticide pesticide drift to protect our health and environment such as product testing
+0392_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e445b49f-beda-46c4-8453-915d5075cca5,14.8,i don't know our power in regards to the state into these above us thank you we have reached the end of our panel so you each have one
+0393_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,97e67bb0-f321-4884-87b1-1b851fc97057,14.8,minute to offer any concluding remarks about your position on agriculture or any question that you might have liked to be asked but weren't asked and let's see where should we start should we start
+0394_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3de6794d-0ebe-46e7-86fc-8305f712bcd6,14.53,will go first grade thank you joy yeah before my wife falls asleep out there luckiest guy in the world be married to my wife of thirty five years beautiful hawaiian lady her dad was the best man in the world
+0395_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e38ccd6e-5429-4fd9-a15e-206d98c05e95,14.74,tonight in my opinion unfortunately were outside the jurisdiction of the folks that you're talking to and what office are running for so to give you some of my my on the job experience and what i learned and it's in the charter and it's very
+0396_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,96156f06-ed50-4dc7-825b-7f29226eb497,13.51,effect if it navigating through that system and i think everybody up here has capabilities and i'm hoping that you see that i'll be the one that be the most capable but again that's for you folks to decide so thank you for having us
+0397_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b757b1a8-40b9-4565-8c3f-6afb00037a74,14.91,and research from everybody i came up with people we did not get as far in recycling as we did without teaming up and don't give up on me and yet it's not over guys thank you very much thank
+0398_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,96def059-62a5-4a3e-b75b-95aab728320f,10.92,good evening welcome to the second public meeting of the year twenty eighteen we're glad that you are here we will begin with the roll call please
+0399_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,654913c2-8a6b-49b6-b98e-7483da6ce064,10.08,weeks and after that we will have the pledge of allegiance we would love it if you would join us in standing for those two items
+0400_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,02b8fa5c-dced-4c04-b2ec-b0d5708e9fe5,14.4,your wise and loving father first let me say thank you on behalf of all who have gathered here today thank you for your many and abundant blessings thank you for life itself for the measure of he
+0401_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9b4bb8c1-afd6-427f-9e9e-7eb2183ac116,13.93,well for freedom to embrace you thank you for your thank you for loving us even from loving us even so from your boundless and gracious nature
+0402_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,00894872-720d-4c37-8413-2bd9ca039f94,14.86,confidence in what is good in fitting the ability to work together in harmony even when there is honest disagreement personal peace in our lives and joy with our task i
+0403_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3af515c6-bf3a-4837-81f2-341cfdd5b6aa,14.38,thank you mike now we're going to do the consented genda which means the clerk will read a list of of several items and we plan at the end of that reading to address those with one motion and one vote
+0404_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,daf20eda-eb24-4fa6-ac8c-fad649fa017e,14.61,but maybe one of those things would be something that you came here to talk about and if that's the case at the end of his reading i will open it up and whoever would like to take something off the consented genda is welcome to come to the podium
+0405_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,09cb8f70-f0f9-4810-bf35-38cba0c7f2f4,14.86,give us your name and address and the number of the item you would like pulled from the consented genda and then we will handle that in the sequence that it appears in the agenda so stay tuned to him could you please read that list
+0406_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3f6f230d-a621-4824-8e4e-3d1d7ec30ff8,14.92,as recommended item twelve a for her to approve the system interconnect facilities agreement with michigan electric transmission company for the process of completing the sale of two
+0407_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e08c42f4-0565-4390-848a-b6cfc0d94603,14.56,breakers and associated equipment inside the black river substation at its tie point to the bulk of electric system the sale of breakers one eighty eight and three eighty eight requires an interconnected agreement
+0408_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7be82a70-331b-45b4-b5c1-e24ae116d32e,14.88,incurred up to a total contract value of four hundred ten thousand dollars approved a transfer from contingency of twenty five thousand dollars to the sanitary funds for a total sanitary budget of two hundred
+0409_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1878bb08-a74c-455d-9b3f-082d52242de6,14.92,twenty five thousand dollars item twelve d one to refer a claim filed against the city to the city's insurance carrier and city attorney for consideration item twelve a three point one to
+0410_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,346ccc7e-9888-495c-8ba4-66736182189a,14.59,approve the bid submitted by b s and sports for the purchase of t shirts for the two thousand eight hundred calendar year recreational programming in the amount of four dollars and fifty cent for a one color
+0411_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1a50130e-9783-4cc2-b1a7-c7de51323042,14.62,the agreement with audible county for the provision of the two thousand eight hundred sentence work abatement program cost for this service to be provided through the parks and recreation division budget subject approval as to form by the city
+0412_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c8615722-0520-4bc7-8c03-f052f0abf61b,14.68,fusion as surplus item twelve a four point four to declare a surplus items acquired by the police division with donations the made be to be made to seventy times seven and also in
+0413_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a9e4b136-1951-481b-b96f-5dace917000d,14.79,property room dot com for disposal and sale item twelve a four point five to approve the purchase of seating for the community and neighborhood services department for interface interiors in the amount of thirty
+0414_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ad8005fd-7153-4f48-b541-9f9c3f8c7f3a,14.59,twelve dollars per employee cost for those who utilize the health assessment physician verification form to be funded through the wellness programs fund subject to approval as to form by the city attorney i
+0415_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,136f53bc-7b12-42dd-9dcf-c95238825153,14.89,eighty nine dollars and if approved thought arise the mayor and city clerk to execute any necessary documentation on behalf of the city subject to approval as to form by the city attorney item
+0416_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4b964e3a-a440-413a-8b4f-c56386cccda1,14.67,twelve east seven point one two approve the emergency replacement of the air conditioning unit that serves the i t server room in the amount of twenty six thousand nine hundred ninety five dollars as quoted by van dyke
+0417_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5e153709-10fd-48e8-b7ba-256fcb615776,7.96,if that's the case please come to the podium give us your name and address and which item you would like removed from the consent agenda
+0418_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3f315eed-7dfe-47cb-8a76-3cca32670ff0,4.45,i'm sorry there for consideration thank you who would like to do that
+0419_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4f906d5a-bc3d-4cef-8d5e-6f303f601652,2.13,item for us tonight thank you brian
+0420_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,077353f5-f965-4a12-813a-fa5a3ef609e5,14.92,it went to the south side when with those people that be parking there just during the morning and evening rush with the school or what would you recommend this so it would certainly be during school days and that's something that i think we would deliberate at the traffic committee as to
+0421_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d52c8c67-b876-4dee-845b-6e8c96126fde,14.37,how far we want to construct that have to look at that promote from an enforcement standpoint as well so that's a good venue to kind of get that perspective on it as well but i think you know it's certainly worth more
+0422_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,00b920b6-4e57-4abd-9d1e-8271b457b98e,14.86,issue and if that's the case you are welcome to come to the podium before council takes any action on this and you can tell us what you think and would you prefer need to give us your name and address and then you have five
+0423_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1126d09a-65cd-480c-9d5f-2b8bd83844ea,14.98,minutes to speak green lights go yellow light one minute left and red light your five minutes are up members of council good evening my name is ted mack four o eight west thirty fifth street in holland michigan i'm a
+0424_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,24d1af8a-c71b-4476-812b-e022fab18e1c,14.76,parent of two children at home language academy and i spoke with brian today suggesting that the proposed traffic restriction indeed be flipped from the north side to the south side my reasoning for this primarily is the
+0425_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,85efea40-2348-4378-848f-1f19779534d5,14.77,safety of the children if we allow parking on the north side of the street as opposed to the south side that will let parents drop off and pick up their children on that side of the street without having them cross twenty street in the mid
+0426_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cfd13bbc-d5ab-4432-9020-611bfbfa9dec,14.89,block so i think that that was my goal is to assure the safety of the children primarily as a parent who's gone through that drop off line gone down twentieth street there isn't a whole lot of on street parking that occurs there so i
+0427_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,72e51cf7-2b00-4ded-aacb-2d8e75c20891,14.16,up trash when there are cars parked through there they can't use their automated truck because they have to get out manually because they're further out into the street and finally just to consider the number of days this would affect those residents living on twent
+0428_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,68a652db-8216-4b00-99d1-0bcd68d10a3a,14.98,there's the school days between october fifteenth and may fifteenth so i believe that that removes any concern about the morning pick up because most residents if they haven't parked on the street overnight they won't be there in the morning so we're talking
+0429_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,28963061-8471-464b-8b71-33ac6a25ff2e,14.92,from seven thirty am to eight thirty pm and two thirty pm to three thirty pm so that will only restrict during those peak times on school days not on holidays weekends and will allow full use of parking on both
+0430_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2e0875d5-7a88-4e89-a7fe-a9ba490cfa3b,5.85,side of the street at other times thank you for your time thank you
+0431_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a7b56b32-a615-4878-bade-8eebc2beb3d2,5.4,to address this as any questions for brian and a discussion
+0432_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,49091f6f-a9f1-4d7d-ba16-cd3b3ef706d6,14.94,like now we appreciate you thinking this all through brian and taking it to the traffic committee and working at all out in the noticing everyone and and then all of a sudden we have last minute feedback and here pausing to rethink it and we appreciate
+0433_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,933a9f7e-a4ba-4cc0-a4ab-5d6e15afbf3f,14.94,you moving on to public comment perhaps you came to see evening to talk about something that doesn't appear later on the agenda that will be talking about this if that's the case is your time just make your way to the podium give us your name and address and
+0434_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cc190770-b274-4965-b518-934877060aa3,9.16,anyone else interested in addressing council this evening seeing that you're not going to talk about
+0435_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4e72a8df-d861-4d0f-8538-069696333b63,14.74,clerk's office as you are aware you had a city council and mayor's election on november seventh allegheny county had several other jurisdictions with elections as well he was a nice opportunity for the city of
+0436_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fb7e1df2-8fb2-4f65-8dff-4cf526fe570d,14.98,and and what we can do to partner together and work on those elections on down the line we did in working with our county and and the city of how on managed to get the results from throughout the district up on line by ten thirty and then everybody out of
+0437_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8cb296e5-6e36-447e-9466-bd6f7de1c5e5,14.92,to look at in the color version while i certainly won't read the entire report to you i would like to draw to your attention something that i did bring up last time i was here before council just a few months ago we said that we had a campaign in the office to
+0438_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ce4bb00b-4064-4408-bbe6-fd2a977fb640,14.86,encourage all of our veterans throughout allegheny county to bring down their d d two fourteen as their papers of honorable discharge and have filed those at the county is the first step to ensuring that all of our veterans get their benefits that they are entitled to both state and
+0439_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4ba7d1ea-23ea-47db-ab42-c72d7dda36c3,14.77,who both of whom served in the military at different times the wife was a nurse during the vietnam war and her husband served just slightly before her they met afterwards and married and as they were leaving our office for our
+0440_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3ff2f63b-bb2e-4636-aa1d-1be78ff20a7b,14.83,have it down there and i looked up on the computer real quick and i found that in fact we did have the discharge papers van dam and they said boy could we come down and see those it would mean a lot to us i'd sure i said sure come on down whenever so the
+0441_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,92ba7e39-9e3e-4357-98e6-b13b4019575d,13.87,next day they showed up i was able to take them back in the vault where we keep the same discharge papers of civil war veterans and many other people and they were able to see their grandfather's original signature i was able to make them a certified copy
+0442_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ee24f6a8-91a7-49be-891d-bc57f6360388,14.71,and you're wondering why they came down in the first place while they were walking through the family cemetery not far from here and noticed that mr van dam's grave was not marked with an american flag on veterans day and they thought that there was kind of important so they
+0443_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7c053dca-ab37-40af-a97d-3269aeac3c47,14.91,needed a certified copy of that in order to send off to the veterans department to get the marker on the grave so that forever and ever now their grandfather will have that american flag there so if you know any veteran even if they don't need their benefits who still
+0444_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ec849345-1b8c-4d30-91e9-d30cc272a0ac,14.91,infraction is treated as a less serious than a misdemeanor a second offense would still be of misdemeanor and then we provided as a state statute does that the court can order defended minor in
+0445_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,603f8781-dfce-414a-851f-bbb7329976a9,14.74,and so we would recommend adoption of the ordinance amendment so we really don't have a choice that changed at the state level and we need to be in line with that yeah we have a choice of doing nothing and then we cannot prosecute the minor in possession by the way minor is not eighteen and under is twenty one and
+0446_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f797fd9b-3e3d-4933-a5a6-756bd8876c23,14.95,unders defined in there but yeah we would not be able to prosecute without being able to have this amendment ok thank you and the thinking is probably to help people at the right time rather than label them with a criminal something
+0447_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a1818748-e583-47c0-929e-1af34ffd84e5,13.99,in the state law we can't prosecute without this being here but i just don't understand the wisdom reuse don't people make mistakes fully understand that but you also have to be responsible for your actions
+0448_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,83e654a8-f694-4902-8676-90d2936edf24,14.98,abuse but it's a free pass in the sense that it's not a criminal conviction that that's correct now that might or in possession situation could dovetail with another type of violation which would not be affected here such as a drunk driving type
+0449_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e8496c5f-7987-4ca6-9b8b-1d4d115079b2,2.43,offense that would not be affected by this ordinance
+0450_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ef15c855-4174-4da0-abca-2b3b79973447,14.89,well there's a lot there and it could be summed up i think rather shortly and in that the these are efforts to clean up some things in the ordinance code over the years things changed like names of departments other section numbers in the ordinance
+0451_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e7a591cc-1f53-4b4d-9e05-eda022de0dfb,14.68,code statute numbers so for the most part these are cleanups affixing names numbers reference numbers and also fees sometimes were set by ordinance in the past and we've been going to have an fisa by resolution because it's
+0452_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b1550528-d9bf-4612-8cd2-b2fac7114e02,14.95,lack of proper means for disposal of refuse chapter twenty five as seems like a little bit of an odd one that deletes the plumbing code but that doesn't really delete the plumbing code because it's now included in the construction code
+0453_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2aabce33-2bce-48c7-a347-41189d6927c5,14.55,would be a summary of all of those sections thank you ron spring cleaning for code all right thank you any comments from counsel about a motion
+0454_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9595e5e8-c6b5-44b4-946a-47891a76e240,14.11,yes byrd yes peters garcia yes we're to board yes the motion passes seven zero thank you
+0455_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5b6a6167-c88c-468a-84eb-8eeab368789a,14.98,clairvoyant member there knowing that his name will be calm and to amendments to chapter eleven with the fire insurance can you explain that first one sure this involves two things one is an amendment to chapter eleven of the ordinance code
+0456_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7b559e87-73e0-4ce6-bfa9-5ddf8e16b10e,14.8,and the other is the adoption of a resolution under under the well by state statute the city is able to and has been participating in a escrow program that requires escrow of a percentage of proceeds from fire
+0457_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bc967e08-981a-4398-92cf-e96db96ebe13,14.95,insurance losses and the purpose of that escrow is to ensure that that that once a fire happens in a structure that things are either repaired or the debris is removed and it's cleaned up every now and then we've seen a situation where
+0458_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,65cf4327-ef24-41a1-8036-bdd51eb3d216,14.97,it's become quite a nuisance to have a burned out structure hanging around for a long time and so this allows for that state statute again was changed for this program it was it increased the amount of the proceeds that could be required for escrow changes
+0459_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cb7deccd-747f-4885-a990-762ac5350cc9,14.98,the process for the city to participate in the program actually used to be by ordinance down by resolution and so our ordinance amendment does away with the old ordinance sections and just indicates the city will do this by resolution and then we adapt we propose
+0460_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b49e79ff-ae72-434a-bebb-92e2e6d9af09,14.94,public works and we have the general manager dave custer here to tell us with that resolution about the purchase of renewable energy credits thank you sir good evening madam arun member city council nice to be with you this evening yes this item
+0461_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,aa5be43f-cba3-443e-91ab-b306aba1e7fe,14.97,good evening we appreciate your patience we have that once a year with the human relations commission and their presentations for social justice awards and we watch their ceremony and then
+0462_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ab4a634f-2d40-4764-8022-98af8bb16abd,13.99,here you have a former thank you matt then we will begin with what we have done for decades which is an opening prayer that i will lead and then we'll follow that with the pledge of allegiance we ask that you would stand with us if you are able
+0463_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0d51adc2-5317-478c-9c90-d2408e2ff01d,14.89,heavenly father we thank you for this evening we thank you for this country that we are allowed to live in we thank you lord for the changes that happen in our world we don't really like change but we have chosen
+0464_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,63fbc98b-e507-475d-a28c-31dc0fff3373,14.53,to live in a republic that has elections and things change we pray lord that you will help us through that that even though we may have fears and inhibitions about things that are happening or
+0465_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,60d4cc42-3df3-4d12-81c5-743bc002ef23,14.79,choices that were made that were in her own that we know you do not give us a spirit of fear you give us love and power and a sound mind we pray lord that you will fill us with that in this evening we also asked father
+0466_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a16f5f78-d91d-4f32-ae45-7721b47d4c2a,14.44,that you will give us your wisdom because we know that the wisdom that comes from happen is pure it's peace loving it's submissive it's full of mercy and good fruit it's impartial and it's
+0467_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9c64a90a-869a-4457-bf2e-18708658659a,14.83,sincere we pray lord that you will fill us with that that we will make decisions that you in this place we thank you for those who have come tonight for their love of your world for your love of the city where they're wanting to
+0468_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,12209fcf-715d-43ae-ab61-2c42dee61312,14.38,give back to make it an even better place thank you and we thank you most of all for your sacrifice for us in your name we pray amen i pledge allegiance to the
+0469_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,37da24b5-f0aa-485a-b1c9-f534d6e2101a,14.73,thank you we will now have the consent agenda which is a list of items that we plan on approving with one vote at one time however you may have come because you wanted to address one of those particular items on the consent to genda
+0470_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,faed4952-6681-4962-9485-20d17d3acd62,14.92,and if that is the case we will open up the floor after that list is read and you may come to the podium give us your name address and which i them you would like taken from the consent agenda so that it can be handled in sequence as it
+0471_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dcdb0fa5-9e42-4260-9c1b-20f3c5bec737,14.71,of and that's us thirty one work we all remember the summer and the challenges of it and the summer before as we went down thirty one but you know what that all cleared we are living in the happily ever
+0472_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c5ae6f38-cee5-4678-bf69-6ef7dc61cfc2,12.21,well we are very grateful for your work and we have some slides to show things that happened maybe you could describe to us what we're looking at about the project the summer
+0473_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e1fc495b-1db2-4193-88f6-6ccd3a1aa033,14.71,on budget within plus or minus one percent of that when we're all done our prime contractor was michigan paving materials their headquarters is actually in the detroit area but the office that ran the project is out of grand rapids we did
+0474_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,53c3aa16-259e-4f09-8bf2-d1b901325e95,14.86,twenty eight sub contractors twenty nine contractors including our prime so leave all our contractors were michigan based contractors on the project as well our traffic was very good our delays were less than we expected
+0475_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,be99b989-6b9e-4ab0-a08b-b69f8b71c859,14.98,on thirty one i know some of the local roads took a little more brunt of that but other than that it was better than we expected no serious work or injuries throughout the project is a big accomplishment for us we take a lot of pride and send in everybody home at night
+0476_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0af92d25-058d-4b0c-9508-ddbd0806ca72,12.45,especially when we're working fourteen or sixteen hour days and nights and no major complaints from residents or business everybody was very understanding very cooperative and very helpful throughout the course of the project
+0477_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3a5ff3c9-596e-42a8-959b-c041ab6668ae,14.74,how much work that day probably we did one large box culvert kind of between felching quincy that was pretty unique just due to its size it had to be split into a lot of different phases and a lot of water to maintain it would go from next to nothing
+0478_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,254be2b3-80bd-44f2-8321-62350ba1a9a6,14.88,to five foot deep after a rainstorm just as quick as you could watch it we did do some night paving we paved portions of northbound at night and most of the last bit of salt on was done at night so it was unique
+0479_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0142b83a-ff5c-4dce-a659-4a35ce8fb76d,14.89,which basically it tries to keep a seamless flow of asphalt to the paper so if the paper doesn't have to stop there's going to be less bumps in the road so we used those throughout the project we paved in ashland where you'll pay with two pavers right next to each
+0480_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3024d1c3-7f73-414c-a2c1-40527b712e7b,14.59,right yeah that's i've been at the muskegon office of and for thirteen years and that is the biggest project we've ever ran out of our office biggest single project we're part of the m two thirty one but none of our
+0481_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9198e610-1d96-4950-bb81-ef6f73b12ea2,14.73,dream just thinking about martin luther king jr's dream that he said that i hope someday my children will be judged not by the color of the their skin but by the content of their character and as i
+0482_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6e7739b8-01ae-4afb-b0e3-e967cc979812,14.68,watch interview after interview of his children i would say that is so true that we turn to his children for statements about what's going on in our culture and in our world and i do think that it is their character that we most
+0483_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3c054c8b-f03c-41aa-babe-bd8c8d7f48d0,4.38,remember about his children howard take it away
+0484_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e9f523c4-ec7d-4572-8a86-6c2e0bef36b0,14.43,i think i need to say something about what i just saw here oh that was not my experience when i was in high school and when i see young people come up here and they thought kinds of presentations is very reassuring about
+0485_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,136b67e2-31cb-409b-9a90-4a24b3126d01,3.57,i'm tom baer how i was recruited for this project by howard
+0486_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2a52e389-36ce-49e5-97c5-a67ee568f3ce,14.7,be my wife and i were in alaska three years ago and we walked into the community center and catch can alaska and i watched a film about how ketchikan alaska came into being in
+0487_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a27ef8ef-ffb9-40b6-a943-73c35192169f,14.74,we're going so i thought about that for about a year and then i began to recruit these fine folks and we started the process of telling the holland story now our story isn't just
+0488_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2e8bd678-46db-4f74-b8be-96dfd7574239,14.23,a linear presentation of the history of holland certainly that's part of it the beginnings need to be told but rather it is a representation of what our secret recipe is as a community
+0489_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,14c2aac0-a2f9-4dd2-b966-3146a64e7486,14.98,done and they've been focused on certain aspects of the community but this one we intend to explore what we call the threads of the community common threads that made a difference in how our
+0490_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a3dd0f5e-b198-4884-881e-36557ca57c6f,14.85,making holland the success story that it is here the threads that we intend to explore i'm working title now which is a working title that may change but is from
+0491_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3ee44024-16bb-436e-9a9d-8209acdb3aa8,14.83,first place then role in the original settlers and what attracted them to this area as opposed to another location collaboration's public and private collaboration's the strong work ethic
+0492_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b80f1cd2-5aaa-4ef1-a8fb-36a28d121209,13.99,centered and we want to emphasize the importance of the faith based community and the success of holland michigan and of course the diversity which again place to what we heard tonight
+0493_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f60f23ce-f0dd-4981-92c1-29a93c0faf45,14.76,productions and has been since two thousand and seven the reason we picked rob in my experience was under productions of note the time and chance documentary and j
+0494_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f8a70bcc-2fe5-40eb-807c-49ef50ed958c,14.88,focus is the students this is not an accident city of holland this didn't happen by accident and we want to convey that message to to our students distribution
+0495_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fd309246-d0d8-4db3-a731-9e2bb4c4974a,14.68,ill be distributing on that way local broadcast television we're thinking that perhaps w g view may pick this up at some point in time not for sure but it's always a possibility
+0496_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a04039c8-9795-407b-acfb-9f49578d63b5,14.35,and we will be making d v d s that will be distributed venues through out there throughout the city for years to come the funding will come from tax deductible contributions
+0497_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fe1c6f1a-bb77-4fd9-ba6f-9ae09bbb14c0,14.88,a rotator during their open hours to whoever comes in and takes an interest in the film will be about twenty twenty four seat it with a large screen t v that will run continuously throughout their open
+0498_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a1a8633c-359e-4b7a-9609-52a82c8a92c6,14.53,for that museum experience we are in the process right now of setting up interviews with various people throughout the community they'll be twenty thirty interviews throughout the the presentation
+0499_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1fb7c4d0-7a28-47bd-97f3-313911b74424,14.44,c three passed through and they manage all of our funds in and out and of course the museum offers us a venue a platform to to show this on a regular
+0500_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,42b6c588-7b4d-4370-ab6a-e55aadd18c61,14.95,basis we hope that this film will be shown during two of time perhaps perhaps at the knickerbocker or other venues in the city we believe that this film has a shelf life
+0501_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,66a47d08-1013-4153-bed6-e5883baf7909,14.98,of between ten and fifteen years and i think that there's a lot of portability to this film what i mean by that is not only is it inspirational and instructional and informative to
+0502_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,13e5124c-b3fc-4887-81ce-71a9940939e1,1.89,the time to watch that it's
+0503_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a9bffd91-b4a2-40fa-990d-fa4c72c46580,7.02,trust for the it's a church related obviously as is well known and i think that carries over
+0504_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,784600da-3fa3-4724-8a65-dc21184f093c,14.98,of what we're doing and that's the purpose of us being here tonight we have a contributions page here in closing that reiterate fact that we are
+0505_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,aa778c33-5722-4317-bf67-8894c4b68f06,14.889,note or memo that says it's for the holland film we'd really really like to see as many people from the community in the credits when we run the credits because we want to we want to wide participation
+0506_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a5d3f0c6-4222-4a92-9ea5-4a233cb7463d,13.42,that reflects the character of holland michigan so speaking for everyone on our committee i want to say that we are proud of where we left right
+0507_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,95bd86bd-b63d-49a5-be75-c6ad15b1ae87,14.95,and we're committed to making a first class production i thank you for your time if there are any questions i hope i have the answers thank you how are you thank you all of you for coming in this evening it is great
+0508_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d11c9abc-8abd-4b6c-9b9e-3ff1f0d97aa6,14.77,you answered everything and that's hard but this group is nine thinkers here so yes thank you very much for all your efforts and it you know if we don't teach the next generation
+0509_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,74a763cc-a25b-484b-b93d-72bbb46bb2d0,14.94,what went into what they enjoy today they can easily take it for granted and not realize the hard work and the principles that have made such success possible and so tallying that
+0510_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,67be9bee-a53a-44fd-ac80-0f1f365f01d2,14.86,tonight to what they're your appetite for bringing that to them and to impress again how important it is for one generation to give to those that follow it otherwise we lose so much
+0511_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b75ace9f-cd0c-416a-b8d6-c400e2cee928,6.03,after another can get a presentation they would not be able to get from a dosen so thank you so much
+0512_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,79a59181-c306-4d39-9e2a-4977643a5755,13.63,good evening so we're moving and then to our unfinished business which is windmill island gardens non motorized pathway ryan could you start that process out for us please
+0513_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f573f290-e668-4096-83f3-00a9a1dd6709,13.93,years as a center of culture and education as well as edge environmental education and also passive recreation biking and walking and of course how many hundreds of thousands of tulips
+0514_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,12eb5fed-d7bd-43c7-9dfd-9e06139d9b00,14.91,on by foot or by wheelchair if they're not a vehicle on the road sharing the road in a way that is not safe you can see in the upper right hand corner some of the problems with the existing pathway on the island routes have emerged and made it a very
+0515_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,00065d7f-2dd1-46d7-a8ff-08ceb1ba6f45,14.95,treacherous surface to walk without tripping that would be addressed through the pathway improvement through the inclusion of route barriers is included in the budget there's the connections to the entire region are shown in this map in
+0516_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,281e3914-9b20-4512-b727-2ae95ccec236,14.71,happen interpretive plan that's going out to bid here shortly as well as a landscape plan to implant the interpret plan to provide a perfect guest experience for folks who are not using the island just for the pathway and environment but wanting to
+0517_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a604e845-07ff-4e9a-b099-a75e114c82d3,14.59,and the answers are that's the way it is and it's probably to the benefit of all that haven't anyone to be able to traverse it and there are no other funding sources in terms of different grants but there is the opportunity to amen
+0518_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b609be26-2ecc-4138-8f5e-9e2623627c25,14.95,like goals so in summary the total number shown here three point three million that includes roughly four hundred thousand dollars for a new water main to the island the old one is eighty it's going to fifty years old and and
+0519_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e1c0bded-0e99-457e-bb13-1e4e7d71dadd,14.41,has narrowed down if you know anything about galvanized water services in that in that one has deteriorated over time and needs to be replaced so that by doing it at the same time as the as the pathway there's
+0520_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,93e6239c-1983-4924-a8a6-d6baf62f73d5,14.64,services tax receipts were greater than expected so efficient enough to cover using those funds for that that purpose so in summary the tonight you're in a
+0521_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cab6d8ee-9a62-4d84-bc50-47c67dbca3db,14.92,recommended the city council remove this matter from the table and adopt an amended joint resolution with all inter township for the purposes of recognizing a potential additional commitment from the michigan department of transportation alternative funds known as the tap gram and a total amount of one million two hundred
+0522_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c86bc761-b864-449d-bdba-da073b12804e,14.77,forty one thousand four hundred and proceed to michigan department of transportation bidding later this january thank you and that is a long story of a lot of work
+0523_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f0715ea0-75b0-4f6e-bf80-8b4bc2cd6d6f,14.34,from a lot of people over several years and as the state says it is in line with their goals for the best communities to have this level of regionalism and appreciation of nature and
+0524_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cbf4292a-01fd-410a-9723-376387a28c02,7.35,ok it's off the table now would you like to talk about or give
+0525_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,25cb93d5-122f-4c50-b9b9-e7928e66929c,13.93,go no go situation it's strictly going for the additional money that we have asked for we do have one more potential if the additional funds do not come through
+0526_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,66aad96b-73e5-41a1-8953-14d55f3c0fc0,14.2,that we can do what we have to do if we're forced to that situation so this is just going forward to seek the additional funds primarily because of the additional
+0527_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b2d749a9-77a2-464a-8272-8e6c0aa2fcda,14.86,i'm not going to use the word burden but the additional expense that we've uncovered by the state rules and regulations because of the bridge we felt it necessary a couple of weeks ago to to find out if there was potentially any
+0528_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,611aa128-4ffc-4fb9-bed1-7df7b41b28be,14.71,this worked out it appears that it's come to a pretty good agreement we just hope that all the pigs fall where they're supposed to so we'll be waiting for that just for information correct
+0529_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,06135e85-cfde-440d-98b6-70f19c7eb9e4,14.77,so there's a federal requirements of the state of michigan that if you put in a bridge like this it has to be emergency vehicle accessible so that meant we had to put in a bigger stronger bridge which meant we had to retest the soil because now we had to
+0530_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c057c7b3-3aad-461d-8f28-fc7b349e2f51,14.95,support a bigger stronger bridge to hold emergency vehicles if necessary so that brought in more expense and thankfully the state people were willing to interrupt their family reunions and everything else to talk about
+0531_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7e0a8238-c955-4f80-9e41-8d23f7b6e1d8,14.76,it and see if they could find some more funding for us with that little surprise there we hand anticipated so which in the long run would be the very best for the community for my estimation so we're waiting and
+0532_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e7d5cfc9-b551-48da-95a9-9b7fd652abac,13.17,r talk yesterday it's somewhat surprising the state of michigan has this kind of money in a realize there's all different pockets of money but he really stated that we are really hurting as far as
+0533_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,069e9c4f-5f6b-4af5-bef5-c7ac7bbdf857,14.83,we're talking about minimum wages of people trying to forward to stay afloat these are real tax dollars if they're from the state or from a township or
+0534_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7e6da74e-642d-41b8-9150-5fff00c2416d,14.56,from the city or from the federal government these are real dollars that people have had to work for i think we have to be really caucus and of that and i'm really concerned when we have our two people this
+0535_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1d973cde-47d4-4059-9e36-54f309084912,14.59,said afternoon talk about as high school students of their vision we have to really think about how we are spending our money in this country we are putting ourselves further and further in
+0536_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a1a0e100-abca-4311-9834-82e74ac811ee,14.74,hole so before you vote on this or you know either now or later i think we have to look at a much further outlook than just say hey this is easy money
+0537_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fe835d1e-d570-4aac-b910-9cf1502c6f81,14.71,thousand for the summary of the project costs the next budget we saw on december fifth increased one hundred fifty nine thousand to three million eighty five
+0538_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,44c4a979-8b6a-428b-88d4-c0e0e430aa80,14.71,and then the one that we received in the packet for this week included project costs of three million three hundred seventy six thousand additional increase of two hundred ninety one thousand
+0539_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5cc5127b-dc9d-401a-8e17-7e7c960b2e72,14.05,economy is heating up and given this opportunity this interest it's not just a state of michigan it's its federal government the whole you know non modal transportation expectations by the congress
+0540_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0682cfeb-4ff0-47ef-bfec-aa2b03dd1153,14.94,i do think the project is a statement about the quality of life in this area as industry is trying to attract retain and develop talent and is really having trouble finding people to to place in
+0541_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d120ef0a-ab6a-4c02-8c27-08e90466e05e,14.68,positions one of the wonderful things that you can tell other people about why they want to live here is it's a beautiful the natural resources are amazing we and we're being good stewards of them and we work
+0542_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,33a68619-a147-4ed2-82f7-62a87b67c4c9,14.92,to has a community as a region and try to encourage healthy living a celebration of heritage and we're trying to work time when the island gardens to develop it into the class park of parks that it is and invite the
+0543_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ca0e8c07-9356-4400-a5ef-b14f3059a84c,14.5,we are opening up for public comments if anyone would like to come forward and have something to talk about great you're welcome come up to the podium give us your name and address and you have five minutes to tell us about whatever you'd like as long as it's not later on this
+0544_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f47c5092-82f0-433d-8714-eb138f2b3219,9.67,agenda so there's a green light for go a yellow light for one more minute and a red light that says your five minutes we're open for public comment
+0545_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,15cd64d4-7d0b-469a-8f21-9f344ecf0bb5,14.89,alcohol in the civic center and at the graph nature center this is intended to satisfy the state requirements for events such as these so before you as a request to do to approve that for the maid who is a saturday march
+0546_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,960806c1-f3c9-48c0-a43a-c95eee6382a3,14.86,have apparently i was the first one to buy them today so they are you'll see them around the community and it's it's for eight p m to one a m on february eighteenth right we have a motion
+0547_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ddc8f3d3-0ff9-486d-a883-11475b10f4a2,14.91,hundred sixty seven thousand dollars as part of the five hundred thousand dollars in cash over a three year period also for the civic center place jim and eileen hearing go one hundred thousand dollars as part of a two million dollars pledge for renovation of the
+0548_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,09e29031-bab2-4958-8ed2-0faa344e5fbb,14.95,two million dollar donation it is amazing the generosity and the generosity of employees and giving back to the scholarship fund and people that enjoy digraph nature center and their help it's just so many
+0549_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,67e7b6ba-d6e4-43c5-a969-737e804bff99,14.83,different facets of such a philanthropic community as we were just told earlier this evening living i'm today this wonderful now we're going out to vocation of downtown development authority and the principal shopping district
+0550_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c99810c4-dd0a-482c-b44c-958ba9de9214,14.04,center for a term that you would determine by virtue of your motion and subject to the understanding that it's the common area expenses on the table thank you and
+0551_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b09ba3b6-fc3f-4840-a845-61e73fa8d274,6.12,city attorney here shortly but it's not it is not so long that it seems like you're trying to tie the hands of any future city councils
+0552_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,99992d71-d18f-4f26-856e-601df12fffd7,14.88,that's why i specifically asked if there was a contract that we should have some sort of protection for both sides saying if the agreement is going to stop that there is thirty sixty days notice someplace in there
+0553_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,42096276-6d8b-4964-b762-1972ab613042,4.8,either party with sixty days notice will have the right to vacate the premises
+0554_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a8daddcc-7015-4947-8781-e5705823b202,14.68,i'm just wondering i'm wondering down the road you know they would like one office now knows things happen they might need to offices or they might need more space and that might be a reasonable kind of thing i think there's some kind of loose ends here that maybe we need
+0555_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fcc6df1a-8bb4-4a92-adcc-c20b6e1463d1,1.45,why would we
+0556_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,755d090e-800b-41a9-b5e3-446b4a303b3e,14.04,i understand the discussion that we had upstairs about the president and there was something brought up about what you believe ministries well this isn't you believe industries this is a city department this isn't tulip time this is a city department
+0557_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,35614cf1-f197-4184-8301-d1477c1303b1,14.56,and these people you know our downtown is vibrant our downtown defines holland to some people the snow melt these people work for the
+0558_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,62d8946b-1108-42fe-ba20-ed8d12041c9a,14.92,if this was an outside as we had with the two of time as we had with a couple other places i'm there a hundred percent people but these are these are these were for the city i just don't understand the
+0559_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ff951bf7-8b42-408c-9381-52124d6e923c,14.52,hesitation the offices are going to be there put them in there we have made it a very strong suggestion that the d d a the p s t the market and the overall manager for the civic center all work
+0560_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f7decab2-48d2-4dad-b81a-e42570b69e4d,14.62,together we've had this splinter groups all over the place we're done with that our philosophy is to bring everybody together from lincoln avenue all the way down to the water from six to from six to ten street
+0561_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0990290d-e534-4dc7-93f3-c6dbe15d7534,14.5,i were talking about a couple of people taken a couple offices and have to table it i'm sorry i don't understand there's just there's nothing here that we needed to pause on
+0562_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,20276204-6c15-48f3-8a24-adf0c4ba833d,14.56,to the parks and rec board emily hat is being appointed for her first term and that will expire in september of twenty twenty so it's recommended that city council approve the appointment of emily hop to the parks and
+0563_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6e30ef3d-5ec5-482e-ba5b-937345141ad9,14.95,well and so passed the baton to us god i forget his last name from helen christian band director and so he began scott was directing the and this past summer and tom worked alongside of him and and helped him
+0564_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b6ac3748-9739-4608-a651-628141f685a0,14.8,and did you know all the due diligence for such a smooth transition for that amazing group of people that has been the longest continuously serving american legion band in the country but this
+0565_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,468205ae-fee6-432d-a874-cb589df84781,13.59,the reason he's not here is a very fun one he is actually in washington d c and is parading the inauguration because his daughter hannah who is a freshman at
+0566_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d6e0a800-306c-424b-94bf-f2266cbb110e,14.77,friday sol that is a real honor for them and i guess their whole families there they have relatives in the area they had to learn how to do the drum and fife military tradition and are to be a part of this parade and so they did that and they have two numbers that they've prepared so we c
+0567_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a2cd1ceb-a989-42ca-9060-6aa125183bd8,14.91,c we were also very happy with the coffee with council this past saturday which was so well attended in the library really grateful for all the people that came at any one else has some things they would like us to listen to or hear about please look
+0568_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7c20a0c0-0963-41db-b055-acb88af837d1,14.98,gardens and saturday morning at ten so you should not be out of coffee in the house and just about every other day we have something else so that's that's a lot of fun and great way as as the police say building relationships one
+0569_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cf2728a5-8036-40cf-9fdc-b54890770723,14.8,cup at a time it's great slogan this coming wednesday wednesday the twenty fifth will begin our retreat process and hearing about all things that are going on in the different departments with the city and and friday the twenty
+0570_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8e361bbd-2bb0-4190-871f-bcddf88706f8,14.94,seventh will have an evening meal will we will discuss what's going on and how we feel about the direction of the city and start to set vision and then all day saturday the twenty eighth will be meeting from eight thirty to three and finaliz
+0571_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,548e154f-01be-4b1e-8bf0-ff943b54274c,14.77,what we think would be a great direction for the city coming forward so that's a lot of good things coming also the howard mentioned the birthday of the city and that is something that we have not really
+0572_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6c52e794-87c6-4d0a-a994-214366d333be,14.41,as traditionally celebrated usually we celebrate the founders arriving here and that was eight hundred forty seven but the actual formation of the city when we pulled out of highland township to incorporate as a city that
+0573_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b23345fa-5a82-4570-9efb-8489cd9f2523,12.87,and i'll be great to have that video produced at the end of this year so any are there any other motions or resolutions or comments from council members
+0574_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ad26f0cf-b81b-4fc8-aa8c-1360fb646cd3,14.8,report dot org forward slash and enjoy a good message about values of in holland so i guess that kind of wraps up most of the things for this evening we do need one more motion motion
+0575_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,af68caac-69a1-4827-a112-cb055c41d905,14.65,department of labor to develop and implement a framework for adjusting national state and local performance targets for the workforce system and with the o e c d on issues related to partnerships between local economic development and workforce development agencies
+0576_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,970b9516-bac9-4687-9e9c-ad7c51762711,14.92,he came in with his resignation letter i put it in my drawer and i said george i will look at this later and so a year later we looked at it again he finally convinced me that he was serious about it so he he left but anyway for the retirement party we had one of
+0577_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2e619a15-04c5-4a8f-bc7c-3517629ef330,14.77,presentation or others and is bill mentioned the reason is that he retired finally twenty eight years at the institute and he just has a new grandson nine pounds five ounces yeah so that was right
+0578_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c762142f-f1c0-4497-8b09-770dfd067a41,14.86,was able to find on the on the internet in the past you could you know sort of take a copy of a newspaper you know and kind of have the nice logo and everything now you just have to pick up some words from the internet so it's not quite as fancy but the message is still there
+0579_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fa90b9f4-694b-41ce-b607-4707e296ae94,14.98,difficult time but this really wasn't any new news we've known that china has had some difficult times with a slowing economy as well as the stock market that they're trying to basically develop you know china really hasn't had a very mature
+0580_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,22647d10-3a2c-4125-853e-552513e6e9d2,14.95,know stock market for well you know for modern times basically and so it's a very small one as we'll see later but still it's something that people are paying a lot of attention to and last week it fell by what eleven point nine percent something like that and
+0581_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5d8ac081-f85e-4f43-b7b7-6795327193d0,14.86,indicator of you know how how well the economy is going to do in the near term and also we have a good solid balance sheet that is our household debt isn't out of line historically and also there doesn't seem to be
+0582_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,45673f36-439f-439a-8989-2cda3479b3da,14.59,probably a good sign because when things start to roar back that means that perhaps that there's not the fundamentals underneath that to sustain it but at the same time even though you know looks pretty good from those fundamentals we do have a few things that are of concern and so this
+0583_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,971a2bd6-d5ac-43df-8247-93f433bc4148,14.62,are not doing as well as we'd like them to do at this stage we also have this continued strong stimuli in the u s in other words people feel that the economy is still being propped up by low interest rates and perhaps you know pretty
+0584_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,defd8dfb-0d05-426e-93b4-43466d66247b,14.89,thing might start to slow down and we'll see what that looks like compared to some other business cycles down the road so here we go so what's on the docket this morning we'll look at this national situation and see how it compares back to about this time in two
+0585_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,672c4435-a4a5-4b87-bcc8-1cbf04495e4c,14.98,projections which you're in blue with what happened in two thousand and six and two thousand and seven so you see the green bars are the ones that are the the ones for the current situation and that is they're all above that line which is great they're all positive
+0586_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cc16974b-35f7-4ef5-8c35-6672493f53bc,14.86,had some really good months of last three months here and i've been the same thing with the graph i've tried to compare what's happening currently and this is over the last twenty four months these are months now instead of quarters the last twenty
+0587_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f3a7f5ef-0a4b-4b7e-9b8f-3ca12f2a2c9c,14.85,four months compared to what those twenty four months were like before things turned south at the end of two thousand and seven so here again you see those green bars and they're pretty pretty high up there in the red bars or the dark and i'm
+0588_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,854d8722-0cd4-497b-9b88-65385fd503c0,14.89,so you can see that our point is much more robust today than it was back then and as i mentioned of those last three months were even higher than that average so that's a good sign going and two thousand and sixteen so things look pretty good
+0589_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c3294339-887d-4450-a7d1-136a41a751f7,14.68,more people looking for that same job during the recession and there was before and after and you can see where their red line is today it's the almost at the same level that it was you know before the recession began so we're
+0590_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,92b3974d-57fb-4bcb-81a0-13b891ed6fa0,9.75,really looking at about one and a half job seekers per job opening out there which means that you know labor markets are pretty tight at this particular time
+0591_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,95df4e5b-8df0-4ad8-9485-d3848c79766c,14.07,and the question that this raises is whether or not our supply of workers can really keep up with the demand and really for this is kind of a strange question for coming out of a recession in which we had to record highs in terms of the unemployed
+0592_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4cbdcdc3-c1c9-43a9-a7b0-f92a6829a218,14.95,underemployed particularly for a long period of time was upwards of ten million which was a record setting number and so why just a few years after this that we worried about the supply of labor and when we still think that people are still trying to
+0593_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,78e21626-f1b4-45a9-a696-2ec0f64a2264,14.98,population growth slow and as i mentioned we have this composition demographic composition of the labor force that said causing the labor force participation rate to fall as well and then we have this
+0594_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e00b400c-0c1d-4efd-8516-702272e5397f,14.97,and this is something that academics researchers industry analysts have been looking at for a number of years and have barely been scratching their heads trying to figure out you know are these complaints really well founded certainly when you ask somebody and they complain i can't find anybody going to take it
+0595_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9e04b2e2-39fd-4619-9247-ea2e9ae8993b,14.47,seriously but one of the questions began to one of the questions is that have companies really can those who are complaining have really completed that sentence i can't find qualified workers at what
+0596_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1b9760a0-43e7-4868-916a-8887ce1b2b78,14.83,wage and one of the things that we're seeing is that the wages the compensation has still remained pretty steady when if we really are facing skill shortages we might be bidding up you know wages in order to
+0597_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,27c5310e-bbe3-457c-a8fc-f9e60e611be6,14.71,so that the employment seemed strong growth and perhaps skill shortages that you know we have to deal with and if we can't find qualified workers that something that we need to really consider as we look into the future of our future employment
+0598_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cb16b33b-f20b-4141-b439-a2914f78844f,14.55,situation so let's move on to some other components of fundamentals and one as i mentioned earlier is consumer confidence in here since the exe expansion began to recover began in two thousand and nine we've really seen this
+0599_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bec0da74-8670-4278-bc86-fcb122f7cf2d,14.88,sixty thousand staff so that's a good sign what about the stock market bubble ok well price to earnings ratio which is a good indicator of this is really at this point below the average that
+0600_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,73b7ff54-c93a-47d3-b82c-dfe5995cd633,14.59,auto production as we all know being here in michigan of course and but you know we're getting back to where it was before and i will see in just a second that you know there are some good optimism in the auto industry at this particular at this particular
+0601_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,730218cf-285b-4fb4-92a9-f819ec88f9ad,14.86,time so that's that's a good sign as well don't have to remind everybody that you know michigan went through a real serious restructuring not just during the recession but since about two thousand when the auto industry just
+0602_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ce21d02d-4360-4e68-babd-ef8cae8b6895,14.98,contagious and other places well it didn't seem to be at this particular site but you never know what hit you until it happens and so you know there could be some bubbles lurking anybody see the big short i just saw it last sunday ok
+0603_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d776bdff-fd5b-4f5f-a492-4dbaef78702f,14.82,well understood or known by others too so perhaps something's out there lurking but can't really see it at this particular time a concern also of course is the as i mentioned some of the
+0604_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3fc0c7ca-ee6c-4683-ac8d-3febeecc9a81,14.26,in the world but to go from ten percent down to seven point five percent they're still producing or having an increase in production each year it's almost twice what our production is in the u
+0605_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d73d6260-558a-4171-b5c7-238777d93aa1,14.98,output there you go around in terms of what's happening inside of china some of the other concerns of course is europe you know europe it down twenty and twenty thirteen below zero we knew that they were skirting a recession but came back some and you know
+0606_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1caf0bcc-bb93-420b-a9aa-8970abd69ee6,14.98,that up because you know we're spending so much time focusing on what's happened with this stock market in china where it's only two percent of the world's you know value of equity where the u s it's fifty two percent so you know my question is to
+0607_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,069d324d-165e-4f2b-a444-da1a7fcb86cd,14.56,and of course as we all know that stock market is very immature they're trying to develop it the chinese government is making retore changes and at the same time making mistakes and how they actually you know regulate this market
+0608_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bbc6f8f9-e23b-4a42-86c2-6cf241bfa794,14.92,one of the big mistakes was last week when they had this trigger that is supposed to stop the market going to fall a certain amount well in twenty nine minutes it fell seven percent the market closed down before the thing even got started so you know there's a lot of
+0609_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bc0c0613-00ae-425e-83ce-207ac294cf50,14.88,two five percent ok that's a whopping i mean how many would if you had a point two five percent increase in your interest rate for your mortgage on your house how many would just say forget it i'm just not going to you know i'm going to re
+0610_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e7c30048-c01f-4519-b4fb-3e8950c14b0b,14.8,is one of the concerns that you know we were still depending on this to keep our economy moving well we haven't really tried to see whether or not it can sustain itself on its own with a point two five percent increase which you can see over this whole period of
+0611_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2934fff8-c8c5-4c60-b6d4-26755411c877,14.65,that's a whole nother story and then again we mentioned the fed funds rate they have a target of two percent inflation and this is why they haven't been very anxious to raise interest rates because
+0612_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d1ec6772-e4f7-4abe-9c39-207dd4423ae4,14.98,dar which is really skyrocketed over this last few years and this is the biggest rally since about one of the middle of twenty fourteen beginning at twenty fifteen in forty years i mean this is huge and one of the reasons of
+0613_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6c28df29-34b3-41cc-ac99-3620040714ff,1.53,haven aspect of it as well
+0614_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4d03bacb-ec19-4834-af48-47064c617fe0,14.95,four business cycles in the entire history of the united states that have lasted longer than we're in right now and that's hard to believe because we've always wondered when this expansion is going to began remember it was took such a long time to really kind of get out of
+0615_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c6c4920b-05e7-4907-818b-644eeaee6cc8,14.64,hundred sixty to sixty nine you can read those numbers ninety one to two thousand and one that was the longest one ever that was the one that went throughout the you know the whole sort of tactics mansion that we experience and other things happening during that time
+0616_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2b5d3a9d-b402-45a5-a4d6-d4f3c0fc4512,14.56,and then from that point on it was clear sailing for almost either nine years the shortest one was the one that we just came off of before this recession began and that was two thousand and one to two thousand and seven but here we are two thousand and seven to the present but
+0617_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6cd5bd64-3d1d-4e24-b516-1d730ddcf711,14.98,up from the zero line there with that little you know kind of uptick there that's the point two five percent increase but you can see where the other ones are between you know four and even eight eight or so percent and you
+0618_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,743fb2ee-0ffa-4a9a-b0dd-09ad244838d5,14.86,stay at about one point four one point five percent increase in the next two years unemployment rate which is something that's very good to report is that we're right at the national
+0619_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3254d09f-5c73-4f1b-8277-f4b3ea6cdb0b,14.89,level you know usually we're a little higher than that but now we're at five point one in the national level is five point zero so we're really very close they're coming off of a very high mark of about fifteen percent unemployment at the depths of the recession
+0620_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,25100710-6590-4d31-a2c3-bcf4f9de6efd,14.59,health the area which is usually a fairly dominant one is is you know not not as large but it you know is about the same size as you can see that ball down there is the same sizes you know some of the other sectors here as well so
+0621_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0487eeaa-473f-4b6a-9842-0d355784e8f4,14.76,this low unemployment rate said well maybe it's just people leaving or not looking for jobs but here he broke it down for you and he said if we look at twenty fifteen where we you know reduce the unemployment by the number of people unemployed by a
+0622_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,42b6c3a4-d078-4eb9-a228-871b2196b037,14.89,did we do better than what our industry did the national level and the industries that we chose were these corporate histories of food manufacturing plastics and rubber these are core in a sense because they have a what's called a
+0623_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a96eed6a-61d3-4fe1-ae34-f9a20bca9c6d,14.77,and rubber manufacturing perimenopause you can go down the list here fabricated metals furniture manufacturing and the question is how are they doing relative to the industry as a whole at the national level and here you see in this particular graph is that
+0624_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5b3be581-0d22-4b40-8b00-69a0f75d8ef1,14.86,you're not only concentrated in these industries but they're more competitive they're able to produce and also employ at a higher level than their national counterparts and this was in food this isn't plastics primary
+0625_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5228799e-5680-4a32-bdd2-0e30ce67e285,14.95,that you know pretty much these wages at all levels are are pretty stable even though we've seen a little bit of a decline in the offer and but you know i don't think that's you know a lot to be concerned about there's just a lot of noise up there
+0626_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a00eaf7e-4b4f-479b-9dc7-18b29288c228,14.92,and one of the reasons not to be too concerned is perhaps the fact that we have a very highly educated labor force here in ottawa county you can see here just call out itself the city where we have an associates degree we have for
+0627_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ad04457b-2230-41ef-ba9e-62fb8c48a388,14.89,the prime age a worker of thirty five or forty four we have a higher percentage of associate degree holders then in michigan and in the united states and when we go to the bachelor's degrees or
+0628_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,54dd1b37-aeb6-420b-9ab6-90a022cd1f78,14.91,thirty percent of the job postings here in ottawa county are requiring a bachelor's degree and twenty one percent of our employed workers have a bachelor's degree so
+0629_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6bef7ffb-1cb7-4535-b618-054cb22d8f2e,14.95,years or so they trust you well it's a little ugly watching some of these things being made like it is watching sausages you see here but we'll go through some of his thought process ok well construction how is that
+0630_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5a8f33e5-117b-4c3d-85b3-32e0b9d97f49,14.44,twenty fifteen down to two percent again reflecting sort of the slowdown in the state and a little bit of a forecast a slowdown in the u s we can't sustain six point two percent i'm good producing but it's still pretty strong at two point
+0631_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a552533a-3ea6-4561-bbc5-299580c55118,14.941,better in ottawa county than in both of those those entities so final thoughts the u s michigan auto county seemed to be in a good position with some real strong fundamentals and it's highly unlikely that the economy
+0632_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6b634b09-30a6-412e-8dc9-f602ab1e3c8d,14.8,maybe we have a dramatic drop in the consumer confidence index after last week but let's hope not we still keep being obsessed with china's dach market you know such a small percentage of the world's equity and
+0633_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e13e53d6-3232-4afc-9c08-a7d8c1e58b6d,1.68,time for about one more question
+0634_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8388a795-ca13-4e33-9480-70f52ed8866a,12.91,typical west michigan january morning but still please be careful and the west coast chamber invite you back next month february ninth for the next early bird breakfasts with that thank you have a great day
+0635_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b52b77a5-a32f-409e-ad29-f7975301dade,14.28,really parking in the traditional residential neighborhood zone district one of the observations that they brought up is that the the ordinance actually caps the number of site parking spaces per
+0636_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ed9e1335-077a-48aa-8def-32167382d056,14.86,proposed only an ordinance here staff is recommending also that you increase the amount of allow hope parking for residential dwelling units and these would be for properties that have want to for
+0637_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7c995a94-c265-4a47-bdc3-3f67d42432ce,3.93,has and you can say your name and address and you have up to five minutes
+0638_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c2ca09b0-abc7-40a1-a7d8-070e5c8c2a1d,14.98,there was not enough space on the parking area to park those fifteen cars so people were finding access in a grass by driving over what would be considered the lawn
+0639_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a1e9ec73-3476-4e03-9b03-44c7a51a99e9,14.58,that has built up we think the last proposal is unfair it's an attempt to reward the landlords behavior his actions when he knew full well the limits so what is the responsibility of the
+0640_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cea38bab-81e2-4989-926e-6763a83d134c,13.86,made as well in his note in the letter i think there's a number of solutions that are on the table that are being considered here i do think it's important when we look at some of these solutions to take into consideration the size of the property and i guess what i'm saying by that is
+0641_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a6cf2619-873c-414d-8d96-cdb7c8d5ebe1,14.62,in something that came up i thought was helpful in the study session the discussion that took place about what is the problem what are we trying to solve here why is that a problem if we have parked cars and what's going on with that some of the things i heard about the problems would be quality of life
+0642_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7dbcdc0b-f239-465e-98e5-6e2f011557ee,14.83,my client's property significantly larger than that if you consider that under your current zoning ordinance a forty foot wide lot would be allowed one house with six unrelated adults and would be allowed six park cars if there was an eighty foot lot
+0643_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4a8b5d05-70af-4cc8-a34b-c46f26f88bb6,14.82,you could have eighty to forty foot lots then you could have two houses twelve unrelated adults and twelve parked cars my clients lots even larger than that being ninety six feet wide but what we're saying here is well instead of
+0644_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,07c1d6a9-991c-468b-971e-bcd72085faaa,14.62,having two houses with twelve unrelated adults we have one house with ten unrelated adults but we still only want to say six cars my question is if if you could have two houses with twelve cars and if that's the level of activity that would be acceptable
+0645_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fd3b76ff-b1c4-411b-ab2a-c7f3a3582449,14.92,house instead of two sitting there and what we've been asking is be allowed to have ten so when you look at the activity issues you know how is that related to the purpose and i think if you look at what we've been talking about proposing the size of the lot doesn't matter if you have a larger lot
+0646_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5f5589e8-7ddf-41aa-a103-ca9caa241f15,14.97,it doesn't make sense than to take into consideration that you're having less of an impact doing that the other thing i want to touch on just briefly and it was brought up in the letter to is is if we're concerned about the single neighborhood feel and if in one of the comments that we don't want to have parking lot
+0647_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ee3c6c12-a442-4466-bfc7-2184ebbd677a,14.98,that's not nice to live next to parking lots the problem is we already have that we're in the whole college neighborhood here hope college has lots interspersed throughout this neighborhood where they have a large number of cars parked in that's allowed ok but part the other and not
+0648_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ab3741aa-0d5b-4a5c-855e-af3945f7f523,13.57,just separate from their parking lots that they have but their housing if they have a single family house that they've converted to a cottage they're not subject to the number of unrelated adult provisions because there is own
+0649_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ed87f445-4e9b-4900-9f53-b1b51eeeb1bf,14.62,d they're not subject to the parking regulations so what we're saying here is these concerns are really important to us these concerns about preserving single family feel in regulating the number of unrelated adults but we're only going to apply that to the private
+0650_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e7773a0f-6a5c-428d-a0a3-17ca23c93a38,14.82,landlords we're not going to apply that over here to hope college i guess my question is is that if that's important why are we not applying that uniformly why are we having disparate treatment that's going on between the two i think what needs to happen is to have an ordinance that
+0651_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,aeebf841-8d66-4fef-b34d-ab53c7dfdf45,3.31,but most of their cottage is they don't have
+0652_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c360479b-8ad9-446e-a2e2-fce72d6d826c,12.67,non conforming at that point in time and so basically what i view this is it's kind of a backdoor way of getting to them so we're granting them some of those non conforming rights that they had
+0653_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,293b5c13-19de-4cdf-9020-6ad90dc94661,14.73,about yes when i see it as a quality of life issue in the neighborhood it is a residential neighborhood and i like the staff proposal i think it's a good compromise
+0654_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e26d9662-119f-40b7-b24e-cf8516e34401,14.86,to say about the noise and the cars and the traffic unfortunately that isn't something the planning commission deals with you have to deal with the police on those issues i mean i feel for you but the reality
+0655_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,38dac94b-2bf5-4636-a95a-1c042caef318,13.87,just because we're a community so i'm personally in favor of the last the last piece that the staff recommended with them at maximum of eight
+0656_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9e4f87e6-f892-4aae-9e6b-bc00270110b6,4.05,allowing parking but if they meet the criteria
+0657_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ec7167c6-de79-4bf3-83a9-5d1afc481523,14.8,building inspector that's where we kind of hit a roadblock and got a little frustrated he was very supportive working as on ours trying to make it happen but when the rubber meets the road we did build a little cabin out there just to test the family tests
+0658_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0438e9ae-766b-44ce-a44c-49b12ba57773,13.41,but i call the state to get that water that he wanted and the state that i don't have anything here and kind of return phone calls and didn't want to budge on that one either
+0659_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2b8e524b-fe38-45ae-b198-26e308e02787,14.92,all along maybe this is the only section that doesn't have the fence that you've seen on every highway and this is brand new fence here it's not a chain link but it is a five foot you know the bigger
+0660_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e2c10204-3841-47e6-a0fc-2c8de6a74819,1.17,you do not need to stay
+0661_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,51e1e0c3-abba-435f-aaaf-e5e287b13f92,14.91,so the project that commission is still alive and will hopefully be coming back to them in february the reason i say hopefully is the developer may decide that they've heard enough and
+0662_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7a4f41ee-acdb-4564-87b8-59c4207c1745,14.83,don't want to pursue it we sincerely hope that they stick it out because we can certainly see a way to to get this by the historic district commission but that's for the developer to decide how much they want to
+0663_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,92348427-570e-47f5-8ad5-c786e45a18ae,14.8,developer very much wants to wants to have this kind of be higher and project ok so their notion is is that they want to start off with it being an apartment complex but they're certainly looking at converting to condominiums in the future they
+0664_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,59177f73-2a9b-40ba-a90a-beb7879c60e9,14.92,have every intention of doing that they feel that in order to do that they need to have a garage an absolute ground each unit would have to have a minimum of one garage and then they would want to have space for one other parking spot
+0665_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9a6b4df6-861d-430e-89d6-548c5a93d19d,14.98,the say that you know they've got a lot of reservations about those garages they don't feel some of them don't feel that it's going to meet the secretary of interior standards for
+0666_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,30305361-ebdf-4f79-b506-9067a95fc10a,14.65,then becomes a rental project basically from here to eternity so is that one is that really what everybody wants ok i don't think so i don't think that the neighborhood there wants that and i don't think that
+0667_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2b302552-6a93-473a-a233-78dae4c3be06,14.8,and you've got to get you know reports from us every month it would be very interesting for you to all deal them to get your opinions out there you know what you see stuff but you know the developer probably
+0668_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dbb2e4ff-f85c-4734-8c2e-46075b48348f,14.91,very rightly made the decision that that is the historic district commission is the critical path right now they need to find bill what can or cannot be approved with that group and then from there or through
+0669_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0836854a-3252-41db-a042-29049dbb7a2e,14.98,playing commissions city council they can get to that point so that's where we are we're going to draw on our remaining optimistic about this and i think that it would still be in awesome development for the neighborhood and not just the
+0670_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7e871899-8e95-4054-b120-49f92b6b0e83,14.73,parties don't see that as a priority so we end up with large properties that are not on the tax relief work and that's an unfortunate circumstance so i mean you look at properties like six one six that
+0671_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,11257114-d8d2-4e1c-a414-5ecf757e99c2,13.15,what they're doing rehab projects in grand rapids could they do it they're looking at apartments in the same capacity and that's it they're not looking at condo projects anymore but
+0672_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,289298d8-fc2f-4573-bf49-47fba886f8b3,14.79,buy these resources really doing it for three main purposes one to help fulfill the goals of our community energy plan second really is to look at our mandates that we have energy legislation
+0673_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4394f619-b4e2-4405-8a17-3fa015e54bf3,14.47,meet that mandatory compliance obligation in the third reason that we do this is sometimes is to provide some price stability all these contracts because they are not supplied with a fuel source other than the renewable fuels there is a very
+0674_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8eb36517-47ea-492b-921b-64b8730222c1,14.97,the ability to create electricity which is called capacity and that has a value as well and then the third item that we're getting is what's called a renewable energy credit it's the actual attribute that says that these resources have been qualified in the state
+0675_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,287aab01-9717-434f-a767-68f80a1d8bf9,14.83,country michigan has one but new jersey pennsylvania other states have other compliance obligations for their providers of electricity because of the location of some of our renewable assets they are
+0676_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a8eae401-afb2-4e80-9b0b-7fb012ee4556,14.47,resources and find the highest value marketplace because these credits are essentially bought and sold as a commodity just like any other commodity and where there is higher demand for a product in an area where there's then the
+0677_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0aab49da-24f7-4cf0-a637-b4c4b532d059,14.44,supply there's a price escalation there what we've been able to find in the years that we've had these are noble energy contracts is that some states have had very large credit prices compared to michigan michigan's been fairly stable
+0678_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3710fc89-fc27-4150-88de-0e58750237b8,14.71,the price in michigan is about a dollar per credit some of these other states that we've been able to participate in have had credit values up to around sixteen dollars so it's very significant difference between them so what we'll do is we will actually sell
+0679_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dfad917e-b8b1-47dc-88b8-485c07a2591e,14.76,credits where the highest value is and then we'll buy in the state of michigan to make sure that we have enough credits to meet our compliance obligation essentially what we'll do is three the order which we do this is first we will meet compliance will meet make sure we're meeting that
+0680_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5be25322-6646-49d8-a6ef-4b15e7ab56e0,14.74,compliance obligation and then many at home might not know that we also offer a green program if you would like to have more than fifteen percent of your power to come from renewable the b p w offers an elective
+0681_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,43b7d729-ddfd-482b-a6ab-c7e5bff64fe3,14.95,program or any of our customers businesses or residential can subscribe to additional amounts either through blocks of power that they buy or a percentage of the power that they buy to come from renewable energy as well and for those customers
+0682_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,980b1819-9324-4c4c-8a9e-2356c67537fe,14.44,we retire additional renewable credits beyond the state mandate on their behalf to extent that we have credits available before they expire because these credits have a life to them we will monetize whatever's left so they dart just left and those
+0683_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,66e5e596-ede0-4c59-bb92-b43c0577ce5c,14.59,those credits comes back to help we'll keep our costs down you know for customers and help keep our rates down so the resolution that's before you tonight is because these these transactions have to happen on a
+0684_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,76bf70a9-125a-4696-9c22-a1895ed0edfc,13.96,enter into sales and purchases renew our g credits this resolution would require us then after the completion of those to come back and report you know the results of those things so that is what is before you tonight happy to answer any questions tha
+0685_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2270fad2-0bce-439e-b226-c88fd9128803,14.8,you dave so things are moving fast in this world and you want to be able to do it when you can yeah just as we do with any power transactions on the wholesale level or any fuel transactions really it's happen on a daily basis and it's in the price changes every day so it's not the kind of
+0686_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,26f3e26e-053a-4bd9-b0d7-5cfc4c9df078,14.76,questions that were really brought up in maybe so i can address here one was the cold snap you know we had a fairly cold month here a little earlier in the the month and hopefully we're coming a little bit out of that but there was a question about price stability because
+0687_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c674abf9-6cc6-4516-b7ba-8f07d0420b7e,14.71,ctually had a little bit of excess at times as well and so we were able to bring value back to the community back to our rate payers by selling some excess when we did that we actually had a very attractive price
+0688_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b9784859-c4bb-470a-9b87-f131fea2a004,14.92,relative to the market that we sold and so those high cost days did not impact us here in holland the other question i think that was brought up earlier that i want to address too i think there was a question about you know the cold weather also bring some other things that visibly happen at
+0689_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0247fadf-0f57-408a-9517-c7287186e4b9,14.98,minimizing doesn't mean that it never occurred throughout the summer and into the fall there were days where you couldn't tell if the plant was running or not it really was running just was no visible emissions coming even though maybe down the road where we know of
+0690_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5d70f2ea-9512-416d-8d75-286447ffa14c,14.68,now that being said there are certain days whether it's a very foggy day or maybe it's extremely cold day words tough to eliminate it altogether but i will say even on those days it is minimize compared to what a
+0691_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a044f982-b88f-4af9-bd39-96cdf8e365c4,14.56,tower would have without plume abatement so those that are going by and wondering about that you know should know that is naturally occurring you know due to the water vapor in the process of cooling the water as it returns back to the plant to do its work
+0692_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,064ac579-4901-4383-b8d4-3a42806f0838,14.95,carbon dioxide in half and so you know when you look at that you know it's a much better much cleaner facility for our community and it's working very well for us great thank you for that explanation i'm sure people have been wondering so he appreciates that so tim we
+0693_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9c0a2025-aa6b-4099-bd46-9412d47f0474,14.89,year is make amendments in the middle part of the year and then wilmet amended again maybe during the budget process and then at the end of the year the reason we like to get these amendments made now is because it
+0694_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7de36799-4d10-4e00-927b-4b1dc06f1855,14.68,assists us as we start preparing our budget and we try to true up some of the costs that we now know when we prepare the budget back in march of two thousand and seventeen we certainly didn't know a lot of things including what were the health insurance rates going to
+0695_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,469f7d5b-b9f5-46d6-a4ed-a6437676e88d,14.65,components to the change in this year's budget and i'm going to talk about both of briefly the first is the city received a much smaller amount of personal property tax reimbursement from the state of michigan this year
+0696_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f75235bf-cc4b-4d86-9c42-ea18708562bb,14.83,given wasn't properly posted for the state when they made their calculation which the outcome of that is that the city receipt will receive about one point one million dollars less than what we had budgeted that's a pretty
+0697_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,92f3cacf-73c9-4bd2-86c0-84a2f1d4edc2,14.98,not exactly sure yet so that's the first change i spent some time earlier discussing with the council exactly how that calculation was done but the reality is is that this will impact the net bottom line of our general fund in the current year as we
+0698_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ebb3fd58-71c7-4a3a-a17c-79bb8fc8365c,14.98,are amending it to have a negative amount of approximately three hundred thousand dollars we made some other adjustments to counteract this loss of six hundred sixteen thousand dollars but that's a pretty significant impact to the cit
+0699_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8ad81b96-8ab6-47b2-a9cf-04d419c25dfa,14.77,general fund budget and to other budgets the second major budget impact is related to when pension bonds were sold this budget assume that we would have those sold prior to the beginning of the fiscal year which
+0700_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6edacf33-dff4-48ef-b197-4b9930b7c296,14.82,began in july consequently we levied part of what we normally would put in our operating milage and we put that in the debt service milledge because we aren't selling bonds until january in fact we plan a price those
+0701_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,367cdbd5-8037-4629-8100-c3a49e3153c9,14.71,tomorrow because we aren't selling bonds so january there is a surplus amount of money sitting in the debt service fund currently we are proposing that we transfer eight hundred forty five thousand dollars from the debt service on put that back into the
+0702_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e44d24a1-aa07-4eac-9fdd-9ab41aa692fd,14.32,general fund where we have been making pension payments to michigan miniscule employees retirement system during the months of july through january those payments included a large unfunded accrued actuarial
+0703_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,92dcf99a-eb54-42dd-8e1e-1cec097552ae,14.92,but the bottom line is our general fund based on this information will show a deficit of two hundred ninety two thousand dollars in the current year's operations in fiscal eighteen however after that's all said and done there still
+0704_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1eaba824-dfe8-4500-afac-732251b1d694,14.79,will be a three point four million dollars fund balance there and i'm not concerned in the current year i am certainly concerned in future years what this reimbursement from the state could look like those will all be addressed as we start talking in our
+0705_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4d3a159b-2d2f-46c9-adb8-1851d1228550,14.95,and when you look here at how these things have been accounted for and handled in this recommended amendment to you i just want to i think it reflects the work and the expertise that's needed in our finance office i was looking at
+0706_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5f1723fe-5929-4e99-922c-4825d2778ffa,14.97,by doing that you save several million dollars by the way you bonded to portion of the civic center project you know we're talking about significant savings just by the way these things are done by the way
+0707_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f6169d49-aae6-4602-9cf8-dd93085e15bf,14.89,applaud the finance office to in particular but certainly his staff in thinking in these terms and thinking about ways to save the community the taxpayers money by doing these things and the timing of it it's just impressive i mean
+0708_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b846c957-7d70-460f-98fe-c546d896087f,14.98,just reflected on that i thought about that as i was looking through this recommendation to you tonight it's mind boggling how many individual items in individual transactions are handled in that department in a year
+0709_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0e242527-66f9-4b88-86e9-845540841833,14.28,and that just the budget is five to six hundred pages so it's a lot thank you any other comments or questions yes wayne yeah just one quick comment here and we talked about the sub stairs for but
+0710_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8abfa0ad-347f-42c2-81ab-9bd755bc5f47,14.77,i guess my concern is the personal property that the state has changed that formula and it's really promoted business and there's that always that trade off when i look at what has happened at the federal
+0711_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,81a95d4e-2691-4df3-a80b-cf2d3bd17101,14.65,owners of small property owners in the city of holland and other places so there's no free lunch and it looks like we're putting ourselves in jeopardy here and we were sort of promised from the state that they would find other
+0712_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,287b362e-9894-4bff-9f5d-3e0a939d23a0,14.74,ways of funding that those lost revenues and it sounds like maybe they haven't done their job doing that that looks like a really huge problem that i'm really concerned about and if i'm wrong help me out that's why i s
+0713_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a1ef51c4-a68f-490c-adb6-ce9011847357,14.8,property tax that were paid in two thousand and thirteen it doesn't address what we would have seen in the year two thousand and seventeen given the last several years of growth in our industrial investments in
+0714_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,74ef1fef-df08-4fe2-80b8-3248d6827880,14.95,in the current year but i can't speak i will say that in the past years they have been true to that promise from two thousand and fourteen fifteen and sixteen and actually paid us just a little bit past the amount that we
+0715_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b5ca9dd4-c29f-42fe-9349-738259da7e22,14.98,that and i think also just in terms of just being good stewards of the money we didn't go and spend that and we also didn't go in budget for that we actually budgeted consistent with what we were planning on last year so the funds are there we have a very strong
+0716_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f52d0593-c5f1-4c8b-a8dc-061841f603ba,14.939,recreation civic center improvement civic center place improvement project to hayworth a donation of one hundred sixty seven thousand dollars as part of a five hundred thousand dollars in cash
+0717_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9b13f727-c205-41b6-a8c6-a88c55b69217,4.42,over a three year period was received parks and recreation
+0718_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9cc14816-4488-4c19-8769-f0df4f314e7c,14.729,donation of a thousand dollars their various donation box monies from july through december in the amount of a thousand and fifteen dollars to ninety one cents in the public safety department the canine program
+0719_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,23398da4-c9db-45be-98b2-6b2ee60ef191,14.699,s holding two thousand dollars public safety department community policing program newell brand's two thousand dollars community human relations commission years six
+0720_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8761ab3f-6761-480d-a4fd-0152d968b68c,14.89,include sales on sunday and in the events and the farmer's market in the civic center itself they're recommending that you begin this application process as soon as possible the
+0721_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1204258f-b04b-494e-b167-538872958a4a,14.88,process to apply for a liquor license to the liquor control commission can take many months the opening day of the civic center is quickly approaching what would they would like to see this in place in when the when the facility opens the
+0722_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c88e64d9-1b2b-4c68-b951-cacc5752b1bb,14.68,board and there's a significant concern that if we don't hold a license for the civic center we may actually could find ourselves in a situation where we've got an event planned we've let someone know that yes they can have a champaign toast at their their wedding at the civic
+0723_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7350f5c0-69ec-4e30-8164-a99b066f0a39,14.83,center and something could happen with the other entity that held the license and that event could call through i can think of a lot of different scenarios where that would not be a very good thing they want to make sure that you know
+0724_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e8f9402b-1800-4a98-a92c-dc3f483e4bb1,14.61,any any alcohol that would be served at the center would fall under to its training so anyone that serves it has extensive training from the state of michigan and that all liquor control codes would be followed the existing ordinance our
+0725_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,42b2e73d-51d9-49f6-bc0e-470983fdc755,14.71,note the city's insurance carrier recommends the city to hold a license we could either then transfer the liability of holding that license to a management firm or we could take out a actually fairly small insurance policy to
+0726_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f7d81dbe-185e-4685-aa5b-fa2a904cbde5,14.88,matt i think we have comment from the audience thanks there thank you madam mayor of houston sixteen eleven highland avenue holland i brought a booklet drug safety from the allegheny county sheriff's department and they thank all the
+0727_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0ba8bdc9-f9b6-4ebd-a574-8e87d53637d0,14.86,and then they went to the civic center after it was built and that was one of the reasons for building the civic center for the youth sort of a youth center so a lot of things that change and i felt bad about that
+0728_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4d851aee-bcbe-45b7-983a-97033491ac94,14.89,because serving this liquor is not something of a family type of deal and i have this book here from the sheriff's department they said alcohol is our society's chosen drugs even in holland it has a special
+0729_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2fed202a-3ae7-40ec-a57f-ddf783c17a17,13.95,acceptance and drinking seems to be the normal thing to do we see bars lounges on almost every corner people in the movies often make major decisions with booze and hands and parents will drink in front of their kids
+0730_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d5183436-a0fb-4043-81f4-38ba9436c5af,14.8,it doesn't mean that alcohol is safe it's a powerful drug many side effects with the body in mind it's dangerous even lethal do we want to promote that under any circumstances even though it may be legal is it moral is that right
+0731_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,481cc5df-0738-4e92-9ac0-a06b32942ed6,14.77,we had in his prayer for the good of the community we could even save for the glory of god thousands of people die every year because of alcohol well we generally accepted as part of society when
+0732_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4dad4b00-76b0-4687-9fff-842d00125063,14.29,used legally and responsibly but even though it's our most popular drug it's a depressant that slows down the brain's ability to think and make decisions and the first drug sampled by most children is usually
+0733_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5ec62489-887c-404d-a0fc-efe9d3a3e1dc,14.53,alcohol in the form of beer or wine now the younger one starts drinking the more likely he or she is to drink more heavily drink stronger drinks and develop a drinking drugging problem later
+0734_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3a5bff3a-89a5-4a82-b5b4-99fa0722277e,13.95,on and because alcohol is socially acceptable even in holland people forget that too much of it can be pope didn't and it can be deadly you can die from alcohol and i've seen fellows die from alcohol
+0735_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e0d3a22a-861d-479a-8f05-5806997605f1,14.77,behavior now drinkers build up a tolerance to this drug and greater quantities than are required to get the same results the only thing that will sober a person up is trying over
+0736_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,10cb9ec3-a1bc-45ce-9ab0-cbac5ea0f5eb,14.8,years of heavy drinking alcohol can cause permanent liver damage brain damage heart problems cancer many body organs lower resistance to disease and a number of emotional disorders one out of every fourteen sue drink will get
+0737_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0dc0bbf7-4a7f-4ef2-8e79-f254c2f41ea5,14.76,into some kind of trouble moderate drinking then is not usually harmful to adults except when driving or using drugs so maybe we should require they walk to and from the civic center and walk it off but
+0738_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,949be7d9-be55-4a8b-a017-5967166811d2,14.86,young drinkers are more sensitive than most adults to the intoxicating and addictive affects of alcohol and then the liquor industry spends tons of money promoting it and about twenty percent of adults have
+0739_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a7d3883a-d5ce-4170-8063-a64e6cc2a9be,14.59,so the first drinking experience average year is around twelve years old over fifty percent of all junior high students use alcohol in the past year and alcohol contributes to thirty nine
+0740_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bea52b67-6c27-4a8c-90e4-c293282be648,14.26,percent of all driver fatal crashes learning disabilities and i can say this with children in the school i've had them and i feel sorry for him because i've known their family for sometimes three generations and they cannot learn
+0741_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fab77966-3a21-4350-999a-46038bf05f8c,14.73,because the brains are almost did they have a learning disability and children can be traced to the use of alcohol during pregnancy i'll just close with this this is from the grand rapids press with
+0742_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cc4beef6-243e-4431-b35d-ff8bde4f1d3c,2.85,sandra houston sixteen eleven highland holland
+0743_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ffda34c3-db50-4891-b2e9-b8ec137b6570,14.77,when there is an accident a car accident what you people ask or wonder was there alcohol involved when you go to the doctor and fill out the papers they need for your history they ask do you drink alcohol
+0744_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,94aa2850-8719-4547-a360-0ad1c742eaf5,14.89,many situations we are asked do you drink if alcohol is good then why is everybody asking forty percent of accidents have alcohol in the past year on the north side of town drinking was
+0745_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6e24ce79-c81e-4dde-a328-de17d83dc001,14.52,going on at a bar with young people then there was a fight and a guy died domestic fights alcoholism involved women are
+0746_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ad8e0976-212c-4699-9b25-2f6c877be9ef,14.77,physically abused alcohol is involved recently in the paper someone said i would not have raped if i hadn't been drinking this afternoon i got a cold phone call from a lady i
+0747_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4356095d-a1bb-48b4-a1ed-33fda46fea09,14.8,don't really know she said what is going on with all the alcohol on the streets of zealand what happens if alcohol is in the civic center and a
+0748_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,de52ab50-38fa-4d64-8a34-b9e5aff0781b,14.68,fight breaks out i am one hundred percent against it the hall in the civic center another negative is all the alcohol ads in the sentinel almost every week not every
+0749_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e74178a2-64b4-4adb-8b04-56c8552e6629,14.71,day but alcohol is always pushed have you ever dealt with a person who has used alcohol for years and dealt with him and his brain and the function that it
+0750_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,252e4dbd-4562-41c0-acf9-5d47e7b5c782,14.91,then we can have a discussion at that time and the civic center board can address and bring a recommendation to this body on you know what how we handle that and what what that looks like him a policy standpoint in terms of
+0751_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5f56fa1b-4246-4f79-a63f-a81bfc7f6530,14.53,abuse all different kinds ironically there were three different occasions just to this meeting we talked about the state of michigan changing their viewpoints as far as young drivers are concerned we just talked about
+0752_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,96c2f782-be85-4e8b-9d6c-63b4817a3046,14.92,to develop the policy a little bit later it's just we're getting the license so a poor analogy might be a fishing license or a driver's license we're saying let's get the fishing license bad example but we're not saying how many fish you can catch what
+0753_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ac1d19c2-7422-46f3-b1aa-158b04c2109f,14.86,license and then we're going to have to look at it and see if it's going to fit what we perceive a reasonable situation so i guess i will support this i certainly understand
+0754_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,29f49f56-4933-4714-a0cd-8eb26bd31c56,14.98,maybe the policy doesn't fit us and we won't have to go for the license so to me this is putting the cart before the horse and i will stand strong as the head of all public alcohol alcohol in public places
+0755_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f1c387b6-d601-4e45-8787-20e77d0870ac,13.57,ron i do have one question and i've looked a little bit after you want to have a discussion about the last time i really appreciated if you would go back and look at the ordinance that was passed and fourteen the public action that we had
+0756_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,92fb18b0-bb3d-4eee-a80d-3b443766f10e,14.89,i don't remember at that time and i didn't read any place in there that it was both an internal and external i think we passed only the internal and it kind of morphed into that and that's kind of the
+0757_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,74808869-dbfa-48bf-8ed5-be2af0f6838a,14.46,i look i'm not getting the minutes real clear there so i just appreciate that we don't if in fact this passes which i will probably be the only no vote which i don't really know i'm going to stand my ground
+0758_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9a30d682-6945-471c-9075-0ea130389389,14.5,interior of the civic center the civic center parking lots eight street market area and then goes on to list others but i have you know i saw that but i also saw the action of fourteen and i don't remember because it
+0759_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0aca7407-37c1-4397-afbe-0674c2bb87ae,14.1,strictly addresses the inside the interior so i'm i'm hoping that we just did not assume and grab everything all at once again i don't i'm an old man this is four years
+0760_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4b60b9d6-313a-4571-9e8d-3499b44eb35c,14.74,and i shared and i would say that this this is actually the second instance today where we've had why i've engaged in some conversation around the just the destructive nature of alcohol and while i personally don't indulge
+0761_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8312e050-c995-4d7f-989c-c7f3f23dfa9a,15.0,yeah alcohol is not a good substance it is a real part of our of our world today and it gets to be a growing much much more growing reality and it is
+0762_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2aabbba9-3324-4222-a9a2-5217f567f209,14.62,i will be voting for this in order that the civic center has that choice as a possible thing to use in some type of event and as both been said several times we don't
+0763_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4b237260-bdb9-4f50-b697-4e57362f9e69,14.4,know exactly what the policy will be what our management firm would recommend and how they will control how things are done there so we really appreciate
+0764_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d113afa9-0ce4-49a7-ad97-053161aa1fa6,14.86,how you care and the way you have used your life experience to help others be careful about something that is such a part of everyday life in the world
+0765_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c55d7ea1-7158-40e9-947b-9915b43537de,14.46,and thirty day increments but i am not asking that you consider doing that i have some family and personal responsibilities i just need to pay attention to so i'm going to honor the commitment i made to you to
+0766_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,88941c6d-2f5c-41d9-8396-9b2bf86070b3,14.74,the seven months that i've spent with you has really been working with our staff team we have i will tell you as a group i think we have the finest leadership team that i've had the pleasure
+0767_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,498fef3f-5e08-4db7-ab04-8b55572a8ae6,14.92,do thank you for being willing to step up and and and say yes to coming back after you tasted a different type of schedule and a different type of life even though you still involved at the
+0768_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,144d6aed-4bf6-43ee-b9a6-45387c465b8c,14.65,airport it wasn't the every day all day type of responsibility that the city managers position requires demands and now we know that saying yes to being asked to come back as a temporary city
+0769_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a93ce4d5-b2cc-46ed-994b-75426adbc214,14.52,person when i don't bring up i don't bring up the topic but to the person people have told me as a part of this organization that they have felt so blessed to have had your leadership and
+0770_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,363b8ed2-94d4-4e5f-902b-c9a8113aacc6,14.97,have your input and to learn from you that you are a leader that mentors without knowing it and know that that is a wonderful wonderful quality and your loyalty to
+0771_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e3cffb32-d8d6-414c-b54b-22b3a4de8d96,14.92,this organization after all that you have been through in leadership here for decades over thirty and in so many capacities the downtown that we enjoy started out as kind of a rat
+0772_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e97440fa-5626-4664-bfc8-e37f1d5bb443,14.5,behind the scenes person in so many things that we can claim as successes in the city of holland and you exhibit a loyalty that is very hard to find in today's world a level of
+0773_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3ff7a453-dcaa-45da-9a2e-8ac3e66a46a5,14.98,do it with grace and determination and you have gentle strength about you where what you say you know when you say something you mean business but you mean
+0774_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b0097928-f8d7-497e-88e3-411c0d951df9,14.68,ever so little bit of history here i met greg still for twenty five years ago when his one of his first positions was downtown manager and in my previous life i was a manufacturer's rep for high voltage
+0775_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e9c178e7-da88-47d2-859a-cfd20bf39020,14.89,how do i put this i was very plainly told that we were not going to be looking at fiberglass we were going to with go with cast iron under no way shape or form ok i walked out of the building a couple of years later i had the pleasure of being
+0776_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8acc1d57-3dd1-4869-8f7b-196e97b8bf08,14.85,that we have to paint those cast iron poles i just kind of looked over at management at that time said if you had purchased fiberglass you wouldn't have to do that so i did get my little revenge there but greg it has
+0777_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3932af47-43ed-4170-85e9-e10609d130b3,13.54,been you were a gentleman at that point twenty five years ago when you have not changed i've always respected what you have because you're calm demeanor the way that you present things
+0778_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dac5a34c-b53c-48eb-91c1-82c6839b8e80,14.14,i wish we could convince you to stay on just a little bit longer but i fully understood and we understood going into this knowing what you were up against family first for you always has been and
+0779_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,99bb9553-fae4-4bad-9b19-f061d18002f9,14.95,that is of most respect for you because of that very lovely wife and i know that she needs you so we wish you the absolute best we know that you're not going to
+0780_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9d023c24-c345-481f-9f9e-33bde4d4e6cf,2.31,prayers go out to you and your family thank you
+0781_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6d09b00f-377c-4f9f-b43c-fe38fc910d8e,14.77,that will be watching to participate and of as you know we spend the next several weeks yet identifying who this next city manager will be so to ensure that we have these kinds of qualities in the
+0782_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,af4e87ef-b831-410d-8d48-af425681eea6,14.82,robinson guy and i sat back and just observed and watched and at the end here one of your biggest qualities and something that we could all learn from
+0783_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cd7cafd3-117c-4912-a1fd-5738a6a3687e,15.0,as your servant attitude everything that you are currently going through everything that you have been through and you have taken the time out when we needed you and that's
+0784_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c97bb1fb-bde4-4f59-85e4-ab497c4ae903,14.95,a selfless act because seeing what you're getting ready to all the time that it's taken for you to put into this you could be put into your family but you've taken that i mean you've you've given
+0785_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,762cfa6c-1b61-42a9-9bc9-37b3ff1ec797,14.89,that to us so i want to say thank you and i understand all the high accolades now and i really appreciate getting to know you and hopefully this will be the end of our communications and getting to know each other more
+0786_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3d5cc405-a80c-475b-bd45-dde559cece97,14.92,so i've known greg for a long time as well in some different arenas so greg coached me in little league and i think i might be that lefty and i he did and i think i might be part of the reasons get some of those areas it's not
+0787_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7c55147d-300e-4a7e-8d99-04bea199eb07,14.56,somebody that's made a big impact in your life and i think that's really part of what your legacy is greg is the amount of people that you impact in this community around this table and you do it in a way that
+0788_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2cd183f2-a319-4c64-8f9d-fc57ef9a4192,14.77,person in this community for people like you that have invested in this community and have turned it and been a huge part in in what it is and the great place that we have to grow up and so i genuinely just from the bottom my heart i want to say
+0789_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2386fc04-40f0-49de-b251-b93cecb37500,14.92,you know they kind of talk about how do you measure the greatness of a leader and i really think there's a lot to the saying that you can measure it by the number of people the person serves and that is
+0790_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,699771bd-72c4-4a52-b1c3-5ac4f5f959a8,13.15,tens of thousands in greg's situation and and as many have said you know it's effective authentic and now we are so grateful as a community
+0791_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5ef115a9-9432-4037-ac9b-bc7cd5de12a9,14.38,opportunity for all and where as dr king challenge to all americans to participate in the never ending work of building a more perfect union and whereas over more than fifty years later dr king's teachings
+0792_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3c56a987-cd80-41f7-86f9-dd7646a95e7f,14.86,continue to guide and inspire us in addressing challenges in our communities and in one nine hundred ninety four president ronald reagan signed into law the king holiday and service act designating the king holiday as a national day
+0793_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2fc016cc-d2fd-4224-9bb4-6404c290e1c6,14.92,of volunteer service and millions of americans inspired by the life and work of our factor martin luther king jr has served their neighbors and communities on the king holiday and community service
+0794_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a266b676-ff73-476f-aeec-745f12ecd130,14.89,is an appropriate way to honor dr king meet local and national needs bring our citizens together and strengthen our communities and nation and where as we can all contribute to making our communities better
+0795_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2e1682f5-f000-4e07-84e3-d50c3fce5a92,14.43,by championing equality and increasing opportunity for all now therefore i need suitable were mayor of the city of holland michigan do hereby proclaim the martin luther king jr holiday of january fifteenth twenty
+0796_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8d7820dd-3423-4c8a-b75c-d3b361ab1973,14.41,year now the days passed so obviously it means throughout the year and i do think martin luther king jr set an amazing example for us in serving the community in caring about
+0797_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,266e586f-7d41-43dc-957b-709cae2ce1df,14.92,causes beyond himself and helping to mobilize people so that they could make a difference and help people stop and think and we need to think in terms of that type of
+0798_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4703c8aa-b299-431c-9c9d-2e704309b668,14.37,legacy and a pursue a life of service to think of ourselves as here to make other people successful i think is a very fulfilling way to live
+0799_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1ca81b00-f1b4-4ab2-b004-e0b254c06ecf,14.8,recognized custom gunsmith he created hunting rifles out of exotic woods and a prison precision machining and also back in twenty fourteen he had kind of a cameo appearance
+0800_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e2ae067f-b81f-420a-b719-7e3ec57cd83d,14.82,there was just one little the problem that when they got near the police department there's of like the one hill in holland and the car was going down the hill and he could not stop at the brakes didn't work and he was right behind city
+0801_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,15127cc8-39f0-4bc4-884b-a61624bfc054,14.62,do so appreciate all that he has done for the city of holland and it is turned into an amazing history evening where we stop to appreciate all those who have come before us and all those that are still
+0802_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b07a5621-8f91-4278-a09d-9fed7ae8b34b,14.74,involved with us that have made such a difference in the city that we can enjoy today and in all of that we realize the responsibility that each of us has to hand this community over even better th
+0803_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,baaafcfa-3515-44fd-bfe7-76435790b83f,14.67,it came to us so we need to have another temporary city manager appointed and so ron drew up a resolution that he will be passing out now and i will read
+0804_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,038cc1c9-bf16-47fd-9c1a-8789724f355b,14.95,whereas greg robinson has served as interim city manager under contract with the city since july twenty seventeen whereas greg robinson's contract expires as of january thirty one twenty eighteen and he has elected to not renew his
+0805_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a626b82e-ce76-4f4b-adaa-01269468a4ec,14.95,contract at it as interim city manager the city is engaged in the search for a new city manager in the city council desires to appoint how an department of public safety chief met master as the interim city manager to succeed
+0806_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,25530efc-37d0-498d-9c14-4a3da1e8db7f,14.83,greg robinson and now there for the council the city of holland adopts the following resolution to appoint matt messer as interim city manager effective february one twenty eighteen to serve until further resolution by the city council
+0807_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,61847f90-3ca3-43d2-a678-326262f9f22f,13.86,or until appointment of a new city manager all resolutions in conflict with this resolution as a reason so we are going back to our temporary city manager we had
+0808_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e9ef4bf7-f9a7-41a2-9dc6-c1e0e7062a6c,14.68,christian reform church from four thirty to six pm there will be a an open house for the reconstruction meeting of hope avenue that will take place sometime later this summer that reconstruction will be taking
+0809_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,32aac36c-6f02-4636-b11a-c13457b908c6,14.7,d heights christian reformed church court corner of eighth and hope open house from four thirty to six pm there will be more public meetings prior to because there's going to be an assessment role on this we will have some
+0810_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,37c82556-5635-4cd9-9361-eb053f55db32,14.95,council action taken on that with we definitely need to hear your input on that construction project so i hope to see the residents that transverse that the residents that are living along that at that meeting
+0811_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,738e1b90-7265-401d-8991-5456b5cc4125,14.89,we're also grateful for our chief met messer to be willing to step up and fill in in this interim and to reorganize his department so he has the freedom to do that and his willingness to take
+0812_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,92d4a56f-08c5-43e3-8445-eedc8a1141d8,14.68,on another sphere of reach of responsibility that he's already doing a great job in public safety and to also take on the rest of the responsibility of the city we are very grateful and we are also hugely grateful to
+0813_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b2624f39-abbb-41d8-a5cf-f1c9cab0999d,14.8,as chair of finance and clerk and working through the budget for us so we have as greg said very able people in the leadership circle right below the city manager
+0814_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2e1f505d-89eb-41c1-8b03-ed5e7d390cec,14.74,and we really appreciate their willingness to step up and take on more so that we can bridge this time period till the hiring of a new city manager we are in the throes of that it's going very well there are quite a
+0815_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,033ed412-617b-4d66-85f2-1ec6ebc345d0,14.77,few applicants and some very strong applicants the interview process with for that should start in the next few weeks the estimate for hire is hopefully in march or april we are grateful for the company that's
+0816_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7c6b62e1-b747-4190-8ec5-96350a95fa58,14.91,well good evening everyone welcome to this evening's regularly scheduled meeting of the holland city council we're have a slightly different schedule this evening because of the important social justice awards of the human relations commission just awarded in this room so we certainly wa
+0817_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e37f3e1e-f306-4a1d-afb5-89d50f6c3db1,14.74,who have gone before us we thank you for those that were just awarded the social justice awards for the people that said there's a problem and i'm one to help fix it we realize
+0818_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b4a714df-de98-41df-a68a-9f9c52894bd2,14.67,wow how much difference one person can make as we read and hear the legacy of someone like kicker and how involved he's been in the founding of so many organizations that have made so
+0819_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9bf0065e-4ad5-4ab5-8aac-095741f9bb90,14.64,difference in the lives of people throughout this community for years we pray father that you will help each one of us to stop and think to notice the needs around us to be a part of the change that we want to see in the world
+0820_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0da3965c-db02-47a8-ad8f-eabf4c35606e,14.89,that we can continue to make this a place that makes you proud we pray lord that you will help us and this evening that we will make decisions that honor you that you eat you will give us the wisdom and the discernment and the love to live as
+0821_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ad96335c-32ab-4308-aeb1-acbbf491e1ed,14.68,you would have us live that those who see us and experience this community you will know that it is a different place that this is a community of people who care about each other and understand what it is to love one another
+0822_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7c3c5726-2257-429d-94ef-dd4297c6f0e8,10.56,we know this is a fallen world that it's not possible to be perfect but we pray that you will help us to have hope and to continue to work for good we thank you
+0823_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8a399941-3be8-46c7-8662-9ac13775339d,14.92,you can also find a copy of tonight's agenda including all of the material the council has reviewed in preparation for this evening's meeting by going to the city's website at city of holland dot com this is an agenda and minutes section you click there and you'll see it pretty quickly this meeting and you can find
+0824_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,40dc9d7a-1d52-4ee6-ac4b-9e6a980ba980,14.77,all of that background information as you take a look at the agenda tonight you'll notice that a variety of items have an asterisk next to them these are the items that are presently going to be considered on our consent agenda which means that we're going to take them all together wrap them up
+0825_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6de9ffbd-323f-4b3e-a140-8dda72eca46b,14.98,being on the consent agenda first of all we'll have a deputy clerk read for us the items that are presently on the consent agenda that will give the audience and council members the audience and council an opportunity to remove an item from the consent agenda if they would so choose if you would so
+0826_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,80649818-a0d5-4c51-8816-c8a2805d5c6b,14.34,published by the engineering news record i am fourteen a fourth to approve a one year service agreement with jayco environmental inc in the amount of thirty seven thousand six hundred fifty dollars for the pick up and recycling of appliances
+0827_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a386b7fb-5a24-498b-bfbf-b993819734dd,14.98,sixty dollars including contingency pending approval as to form by the city attorney item fourteen a seven to approve a contract with general electric international inc in the amount of one million four hundred eighty thousand nine hundred eighty two dollars with a
+0828_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,aec34280-b3de-43e0-bf82-c8890d70a354,14.8,station and a transfer from contingency to capital funds in the amount of one million dollars to cover the hot gas path inspection portion originally planned for fiscal year two thousand and sixteen items fourteen eight
+0829_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f2e703f9-76a8-436c-94c3-b1b5dd3dad08,14.55,fourth two thousand and fifteen regular scheduled meeting council meeting and to direct the deputy clerk to publish the required notices in preparation for this public hearing item fourteen the one to refer a claim filed against the city to the city's insurance carrier
+0830_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7e35d692-c130-4709-9302-760c61d4bf11,14.53,city attorney for consideration item fourteen d two to approve an adopt the required michigan liquor control resolution for a brewpub license for sentry lanes doing business as bam entertainment center located at four seventy eight
+0831_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c62ceafd-0e70-4df4-8802-5acf1a428a9e,14.65,sixteenth street item fourteen d three to prove and adopt the required michigan liquor control resolution for a hotel be liquor license for courtyard by marriott for the big east sports grill located at one
+0832_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3b016767-93fe-422c-8a5e-d6bc308d1ec5,14.73,with the land information access association in a match amount of five thousand dollars approved an additional five thousand budget i'm an adjustment to the lake michigan st and lined item in the municipal capital improvement fund as well as
+0833_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4b2680ed-9b26-427d-b5e6-6976de19c76a,14.91,second two thousand and fifteen and fourteen six point one to approve the reclassification of two part time multimedia producers to full time at the same hourly rate of pay and reduce the transfer to the
+0834_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,99f74f2f-0586-4858-a611-3a1c920798db,14.8,presently on the consent agenda would anyone in the audience care to remove an item from that agenda and if so please step forward the microphone let us know which one it would be saying no when a member of council care to remove an item or more from the consent agenda council member
+0835_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,19ab82d1-f6ad-44b2-9733-969fd86a2899,14.41,is a dream dream come true for me i have a little bit about myself so i have a bachelor's degree and zoology and environmental studies from michigan state university and i work during college i worked for the michigan department of
+0836_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3c6b4ccd-9bcd-4799-ace1-2faa34e41776,14.98,environmental quality and as an intern for their environmental education cordon later i was a student assistant in the land of water division working on permitting and compliance after college i worked at a small environmental consulting company as
+0837_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b2dab39c-ba70-4ecc-9c34-4f871e9b4841,14.86,a environmental science scientist from after that portion i moved to color wisconsin to marry my college sweetheart and work for a distance from that consulting company and then i took on a part time
+0838_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5b2767be-8039-4c21-917d-3021718762c8,14.86,community outreach in two thousand and nine we had our son and we knew we wanted to be back in west michigan where we grew up and we just knew that we want to be closer to our friends and family and my husband
+0839_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f0af1ce6-2f24-4da1-a417-89fa2340a4cd,14.73,helping with project clarity and their watershed group i became connected with the highland christian superintendent later that fall and then this past fall i started working at home christian in their new home school program teaching science at the high
+0840_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2de93894-6703-41b2-8c86-e8f11b3e847b,14.89,school and middle school and so then i became aware of the sustainability director position and i was just ecstatic about it holland has been doing so many things in environmental and sustainability and i was just
+0841_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c4ca9469-bf42-48ca-a7d1-a6dca379a059,14.92,dying to have the opportunity to work with all of you and the community members on this so i interviewed and again fell in love with this dream job and still pinch myself that i have the opportunity to do this some of the deliver
+0842_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d8f72c06-446a-4d7a-baae-e6a5893455f5,14.8,s that i have in this new position are working and community metrics community education k through twelve education working with the whole green team and student engagement putting together a dashboard and a website some of
+0843_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,09d0b2fb-7fca-46c6-8e01-729f38d7da5d,14.83,that will include videos for the community members as well and then i am also helping to integrate the sustainability committee's sustainability framework which really focuses on the quality of life transportation environmental awareness an action
+0844_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a0955b87-f725-47d6-8b8a-26f70caa48f3,15.0,star energy economic development community and neighborhood and community knowledge and and i'm just so excited about this opportunity because the city is just focusing on all of the right pieces in my power in my opinion and again i'm just so
+0845_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c6ed2111-61ef-493d-b514-7908ea7b8aa8,14.74,excited to be a part of this was recently recognized as one of the most beautiful small towns in america and i can see why we have the beautiful lake here the community is just absolutely stunning and therefore i
+0846_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c579c7e6-ba12-45e4-8884-69debd84221d,14.83,am just so excited to be helping to continue to incorporate sustainability and protecting our natural resources and our citizens and i am looking forward to working with all of you and our community so if you ever have any questions feel free to contact me at any time
+0847_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,10dbc551-ba7c-45a0-b32a-7a0925fde14f,13.899,very much again welcome all rights we have a bit of unfinished business we have a report from the traffic committee dealing with some parking restrictions along fifteenth avenue between
+0848_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ff9f8bf4-1777-4f6e-88fe-08e98ac4d162,14.76,public hearing first my mistake a public hearing at this time of year to address this particular item we didn't vote you know step forward microphone and address counsel on its and it only the the rules of counsel relatively simple we ask that you state your name and residential address for purposes of the
+0849_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f42a114f-8a40-4681-a511-0849de416584,1.77,anyone care to comment on this please
+0850_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,fd9565aa-bcb9-4283-a09d-f278a7cac98a,14.98,january night absolutely can't talk about it i got notified in the mail that this was on the agenda so that's why i came i actually live right across the street from vanderbilt school and i've been there seven years and i can tell you it is a nightmare with parking particularly this time of year when
+0851_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b0ec40b1-48a9-4ff0-9bf0-428fcd262933,14.95,the road slams down i can tell you parents are extremely rude dropping their children off and i cannot get out of my driveway i live on the north side of fifteenth street i have had many discussions with vanderbilt about my concerns and they've tried to address the
+0852_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3b933e82-7c64-43a6-a7be-c0940eab5d12,14.98,entrance to the school and then royalty and that causes problems to be able to see to get out that particular if you're turning left and so there's a lot of issues with that corner in the morning and after school thankfully i don't deal with it
+0853_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6f98d753-c82c-445f-811c-08f181f7e213,14.5,after school as much because i'm at work but i have come in the afternoons for whatever reason around three and people are blocking my driveway i can't get in so it's a major issue particularly at my address so i would appreciate the coun
+0854_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,85ff19a9-a948-4a37-9fea-7105f82a96da,14.71,fourth and columbia have observed that one as well with its proximity to black river schools and some of the traffic patterns that happened there and just want to use this is an opportunity to unfortunately we have to encourage parents to have a little bit better
+0855_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,605581bc-a63b-4a26-bc0f-b5aa9c9a92e1,14.97,behavior sometimes but we see this around all of our city schools all the schools that are are in our city limits are taxed impressed by these issues and a man the traffic committee and he's got their eyes on it and i just want to use
+0856_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,423da207-46c1-479c-8b7c-c800dce640a1,14.83,it as an opportunity to encourage parents to be kinder than what our constituent is sharing and encourage the traffic to me to continue to work with the schools on these matters because i think we all know that if we don't address it will
+0857_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,44224173-649a-4ca1-9ea1-0df6f81b555d,14.79,will find a way to make sure we get good contact right this brings us to item twelve which is the time of the agenda for comments from the audience and this is the opportunity for members of the public to address council on anything that does not otherwise show up on the agenda tonight again those same rules of
+0858_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,beb69b72-db46-47a2-8728-c8fd3621334b,13.99,you and your constituents to be involved in lansing business as much as you can and if you can use me to be a conduit for that feel free to thank you very much today thank you very much for being here and give our regards to the majority leader please thank you
+0859_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3346c902-fced-47dd-8de2-99de0e306eee,3.3,microphone is still open if anyone else would care to address council tonight
+0860_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d4bdcc90-7742-45ba-97b2-9a6c70c4a895,14.53,teams work on this project there's been a lot of effort done and certainly for those at home what i'm talking about is our next power generation facility the hauen energy park on the east end of the downtown
+0861_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,71d9ec61-885b-41c2-9cb7-8f5ac19418b8,14.92,tremendous facility and tremendous process really that we've gone through to date and i kind of want to back up a little bit just remind everybody that little over two years ago you know we were calm an aging process a process of looking at a number of different
+0862_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d4a35dbc-667f-4956-870e-2d3da18559b3,14.98,options for our community and a pathway forward power generation that involves significant public involvement and communication in education on energy issues an exhaustive sustainable return on investment houses that considered both financial and
+0863_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b8f8b802-9b91-4e28-ba4f-61586be22ae9,14.25,nonfinancial elements of that that led to five recommendations coming out of the board of public works to the board and also to city council associated with our future power supply those those recommendations dealt with renewable
+0864_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ec451538-a375-464a-a405-eba7b74fa41a,14.79,which we've acted on and put those in place or we have now thirty two megawatts of wind in our portfolio in addition to the other renewable resources putting us well beyond the state's mandate of ten percent by two thousand and fifteen we made some decisions about the fate of the dion plant
+0865_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,730398a6-af31-48b3-8c00-6962b74e6279,14.59,that we weren't going to invest in environmental controls there because it wasn't cost effective and we were working on transitioning away from that as a base load resource for our community and we made decision about a new resource a new gas combined cycle
+0866_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5483dd4a-ec94-4164-8e23-39a55b647b4f,14.92,facility that was going to be an amazing facility from an environmental performance standpoint as well as efficiency and the ability to use waste heat for additional beneficial use for the community in advancing our snow melt system and the prospect of being able to look at that
+0867_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8b706d7c-f3fa-4306-90d0-c169465c1e6e,14.92,for potentially a district heating source we also made some decisions about site at that time that we weren't going to continue to develop on the waterfront where the young plan is but look at alternatives those recommendations were brought to you late
+0868_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f82bd5a4-f7ba-4f79-ad05-9ec01fee624b,14.91,and twelve and since that time a lot of work has taken place since that time we've gone through a site selection process and found a site on the eastern end of the downtown area in that process in the last two years
+0869_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ed2e788e-146b-441e-ba06-e93ac8b2680d,14.94,in developing this facility we've also acquired successfully acquired sixty one individual parcels in that area site has transformed at this point we have actually entered into a cooperative agreement with our neighbor
+0870_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2454b7b6-54a7-4a3d-969f-57abb5a48900,14.41,for that particular area it was better to bring it into the city and it was a very successful process with our neighbors holland township and we pulled together a blue ribbon panel to the stat was a vision associated with this facility
+0871_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,166d8bb5-7138-4a10-b2c8-6aadf608ba7e,14.5,design and site plan and we had three main goals around that we're going to develop a world class resource for our community we're going to create a destination for people to be able to come to that and feel comfortable around that setting
+0872_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9b18efdc-bb65-4bba-8bb9-605d1f6b36c3,14.97,and we're going to enhance that gateway to our community and i think what came out of that process is amazing as i mentioned before we've restored the land in that area the cleanup work that's been done is been incredible there's more
+0873_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e00a6d93-b764-4c4d-a7eb-26dfb26db5a8,14.83,to do in terms of invasive species but those that are following this process on p twenty one decision dot com which is the website that we've created for this power for the twenty first century energy initiative you can
+0874_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,43ed245b-8488-4337-87dd-ac6ac5bd8ec5,14.47,see a video that's just been posted there that summarizes really the work that's been done as of recent and i and i encourage everybody at home that viewing this tonight to go there and look at that i think it's just tremendous what's happened so far and we're just getting started
+0875_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c9b72b17-abf5-4031-b051-abc585c6f797,14.89,along the way we've been able to reuse a number of materials from facilities on that site both the atmospheric processing building and working with charitable institutions in the in the community to recycle or reuse things out of the number of homes that were
+0876_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7f8d51c0-d8d6-4c22-9d3f-4e3d939973b5,14.98,with again being able to use waste heat from the facility last year we actually sold bonds due to a very attractive bond rating debt rating that we achieved one of the rare air so to speak among other municipal
+0877_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6559613d-dcb5-4262-8e4a-1083fb7c38a6,14.79,procured major equipment from siemens and vote through a very competitive process that evaluated not only the upfront cost but the lifecycle cost to our customers that equipment is expected to be delivered this summer so time to get
+0878_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e33222c3-1337-406b-a913-48a9d488e40e,14.89,ready for that since may of this past year we've been in the process of working with our owners engineer h d r to find a partner that's going to help us construct this facility we
+0879_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,63cbb2f4-119d-4666-8d15-c4cf2c4b5b55,14.92,started with a request for qualifications that brought in fifteen firms we narrowed the list down to five brucey proposals from those five firms five highly qualified firms and a very competitive process
+0880_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,81d49eb8-82ca-442f-a35a-dd6764f2cc4c,14.649,narrowed that list down to two and through an extensive and exhaustive process of working through those bids making sure that those contractors that were bidding understood our vision for the long term
+0881_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0d3fea46-0c09-4338-a08b-0125d53b8b99,14.739,we reached the conclusion in november we asked for approval of an eleven week effort with barton mallow to conclude the contract terms on an engineer procure and construct contract
+0882_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c1b154f7-bcad-4984-b5ca-0ef5f7edb8cc,10.35,come up and maybe say hi a minute because i think jim brings a wealth of experience to this project and i'd just like him to be able to introduce himself to you and to our community briefly before we move on
+0883_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bcb23e6d-131a-4300-a927-08ee8126353d,14.88,and that kind of gave me a much stronger sense of the vision for home energy part i get a sense for what the communities are looking for from us and what we're going to deliver for the community
+0884_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b1bbfc5d-0fa7-4359-9489-c37734eaccc6,14.92,excellent contracting firms can and we're thrilled that you rose to the top the good michigan firm but the firm that has constructed all sorts of projects i mean just go to the website check out the kind of projects now you know check out folks the kind of projects that
+0885_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,65aee86a-f9a2-4a22-8c67-698a1198dbad,14.97,this company has done not just in michigan not just in the midwest but really across the country and you know clearly we got some good people working on this great project they are they are michigan firm and they are great firm based out of south field and they have a partner they have partners on
+0886_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a6d22e14-3853-4239-9912-cc6aa16c5221,14.92,this project as well engineering is going to be working with them as their engineering arm on this project and progress of a t l so in terms of some of the landscape and facility architecture work out a grand rapids
+0887_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4bb7a145-074b-4882-9076-085ff1d3eebe,14.77,been just a tremendous asset to the board of public works and his experience in the power industry and with construction projects to date has yielded the dividends that have been been outstanding and i like him to come out and be able to walk through just a few slides that
+0888_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7b3525ad-d668-4de7-bef7-db1ad9c4eeda,14.91,seven years i was hired a little over seven years ago by the board and one of the main reasons i was selected as the successful candidate was i knew how to do this kind of stuff i had thought i was
+0889_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1f05075b-bd8c-4a6f-81fb-637e926d2302,14.95,we had a good plan then his day pointed out and walk through the history but today we've got a better plan a much better plan as dave said we've been working on this since may we've been working with bart mal exclusively since november
+0890_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8f895dc2-e7b1-4b62-a7f2-426a6fe6d313,14.95,and through november and december we have put together a very fair contract for both parties there's rewards for both parties there's penalties for both parties and we've put together a document that's probably
+0891_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7fe58ba1-969d-439e-9880-0f9b29206d23,14.56,material payment that's to assure that the bills will get paid for the labor and the equipment but also that the plant will be built they will provide its project schedule they've already done that that's part of the contract it's in the
+0892_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0b899d2f-fa3b-4fb8-b750-a8054c811846,14.79,contract as dave pointed out earlier the major date that we expect to have this plant done is next december mid mid december but the guarantee date is february fifteenth of twenty seventeen once i have those
+0893_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,06ec3f97-e55e-4c34-983a-41311084e503,14.38,engineering service agreement that was entered into in november so are we've been moving forward but we couldn't order equipment we couldn't do dirt moving if you will we could only do professional
+0894_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ba2c72aa-3381-413c-bb4e-59aa1d949719,14.92,about the other but just a point out one of the major pieces of this contract is her approach to developing the final cost to the project it is a very collaborative approach as such it is very time
+0895_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,57ad88c5-6f41-42c9-b870-7080fa3064bf,14.47,a contractor said i need a power plant of this size i want to located here and i need it by this date and they would do everything they'd put it together when they were done they'd shake your hand hanjour the keys and that was what you got
+0896_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9879f0d9-ff47-4400-89e9-853bdc4f5585,14.97,will be involved in the design will be involved in the equipment selection will get to look at all the estimates all the bids in agree or comment on them or if we choose to go a different route for good reasons we
+0897_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,11ef0ffc-f06e-4849-abc6-a1b3b6ba3fa2,14.86,can do that because it's a collaborative effort with our contract so we'll be looking at all the various systems all the quotes as we come to agreement on pieces and parts of the contract will do what's called a soft clothes ok we're done with that let's set it on the
+0898_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c96d3881-9f17-4392-9bb4-db00d86ddc74,14.77,shelf that's the amount that we've agreed to and we'll work through all of the systems will work through all of the equipment and do that and gradually build the price if you will for this contract
+0899_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a5952db4-d7c7-4c86-8d47-9f1757a77572,14.53,we have a value engineering log that's where we're keeping track of all these moving parts and there are a lot of moving parts it has items on it has values associated to it as dave said earlier we will look at those will assess those value
+0900_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4f98d4ed-6ee1-43d9-a93f-c02e3fee8603,14.85,engineering opportunities if it makes sense it's good for the long term lifecycle cost of the project well except if it doesn't work for us either from an operational standpoint or a cost standpoint visual standpoint will reject him
+0901_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bb45e4b9-02ab-40af-9df2-4d791aefa171,14.04,so work our way through that log and get all of those items handled but those on the shelf so when we get all the value engineering work done we had all the system a design pricing equipment selection done
+0902_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cc7327d5-c33a-49c9-a683-31225c00fedc,14.8,price contract that he will build the plan and once we have that number we set their fee their fee for profit and their fee for
+0903_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,326975b8-251c-413e-9c4d-c9da623f2799,14.92,you know that some seem somewhat opposite of what you think but it's an incentive we do not want to disincentive barton malla from looking at ways of saving money if they have good ideas and they know how to save
+0904_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ec4c95bf-3b1a-4b8b-92af-b7810fdf74f1,14.59,money in the i'll share it with us in their fee will improve so we'll set that fee and we've got the price of the equipment in the construction and that becomes as i said the lump sum from price contract
+0905_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,81f08941-c95c-40cd-ac25-eb175490a107,14.82,him an office in the project office and he's been working out of that when he needs to be over here the three major pieces of equipment will be delivered between the end of july in the end of august ordination with bryan
+0906_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,1c8bff23-4be9-4b96-a8ff-1b0cd2e39ada,14.71,feet wide thirteen foot tall big piece of a quick january next year this time the plant will be enclosed for the most part most of the cosmetic stuff will be there they'll be things we have to finish up
+0907_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d0864c14-8de3-442d-a9e9-ef5809a03ee3,14.08,in the spring trim and such landscaping we expect to put natural gas to the combustion turbans in september stemberg one thousand is when we will start those up or as dave said first fire that's a good thing not a bad thing
+0908_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e614fa20-d4d5-4bf7-841c-2e42dc884d74,14.68,hopefully have everything troubleshot sorted out so that we can turn it over to the plant operations group in mid december they guarantee it will be done by mid february that guarantee date is
+0909_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e6f503c5-11e6-4efd-bc3c-3cc5bfba37ea,14.77,if you look at some of the key financial terms of the contract we have a schedule liquidated damages tied to this contract if for some reason martin melo does not have substantial completion done by february
+0910_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,85170630-839e-479d-b594-b0442457ad57,14.38,work most all of them took exception to any kind of liquidated damages or penalties that tells you when you talk to a company that's when you do that they're very sure of their schedule they're very sure of the
+0911_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,071a489a-4b92-413e-a3f5-12402b41d5bb,13.12,million a half a project this size that's a very small number but once again doing an open book approach we should have everything nailed down by the time of close that book so hopefully it won't have to use any of that and they can put it in their pocket
+0912_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,67ddf6f4-ec70-4494-bd52-bd4fa593635c,14.47,contract pricing today i should say we could always a slide is put together last monday and these things have changed since then because we continue to work on in the paperwork that the mayor in an a
+0913_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,66f839b8-a30c-4a19-9430-a554291723a8,14.92,half the contract price is one forty four hundred forty four million seven hundred sixty eight thousand one hundred sixty nine dollars ok i've rounded up to one hundred forty five million dollars the value
+0914_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c0559a59-d577-43ba-b1bd-6e91fb98c497,14.92,engineering just moments that we knew last monday that we were aware of were a little bit over ten million we have a potential million five credit for the work that's been done during the ensuring service agreement time frame which would be november december
+0915_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0dcc0636-3523-4473-adfc-cd6e353ccbbc,14.34,to when this project is executed when we execute this contract the engineering service agreement terminates that's done and now we're into the p c contract we know we have some additions changes that we
+0916_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5f0c40fe-240e-4eea-bb17-1410d9d05073,15.0,hadn't thought of or things that came up as we worked on the project after the r p one out right now we're about three hundred eighty thousand dollars of additional work that could go up we've got we've got to get through all the all the open book period so last
+0917_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,200e227e-c2d6-40ac-b269-5b854ca49857,14.74,monday if we had taken advantage of all the value engineering the e s a adjustment all the additions we would have a contract of about one hundred thirty three million dollars i don't think that's where it's going to end up and looking at the large go but i'm predicting it's go
+0918_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f9d385b1-5f6c-49c1-8787-d214d6c8bab2,14.83,is the contingency normally the board would come to you with a recommendation for a contract amount in a certain percentage contingency this is just another way of accomplishing that so we would have somewhere between five
+0919_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c00f6aa6-bb31-40ae-8e64-1051706f4091,13.44,and eight million dollars of contingency so about five percent roughly with that any questions that you may have had be glad to feel counseling questions for the board
+0920_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,a7e295e2-99c3-47fb-8c27-f2163aa77d7a,14.98,it was the holiday period we're trying to put together this kind of contract yeah it was intense it took a lot of work a lot of effort by many people but it's also what i enjoy doing now i do all of this stuff the paperwork which is not the most fun part of this
+0921_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2a2683dc-c8b4-4ff3-9ac8-6c7891390e59,14.76,so i do get to take part in the fun part which is building it when it starts going on would you say this is kind of the apex of your career is well it's close it's it's i'll say it's my
+0922_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6520b6f3-9fb5-4620-9339-6a42a582206c,14.86,swan song i probably i'm not going to build another one i want to make sure that if this is the last project that i build it's done right and that i can walk away from my career with one last
+0923_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2e0db98a-b7c1-4121-a74f-b5e49cbe8a9f,14.65,good contribution to the community i grew up in yeah it's important to me it's one of the reasons that i did come to dave recruited me way back when i i will say that when i was leaving c m s dave was the first person i talked to
+0924_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,7741f067-e196-47c0-aab8-f8d92fb3d638,14.38,and also the joy of seeing all of this come together and i'm no engineer but my am neither now but my respect for your ability to handle details and and tackle huge
+0925_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e7867fac-f0a2-4120-9d24-54e3e999dbdc,14.41,projects and i just enjoy the wild water white water of it off as is fun to watch and i'm just very grateful and our whole community is for how well this facility will
+0926_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b6edf2e6-e902-4b9d-966f-263d8708168b,14.79,people that are involved in this project we either have short gray here or no here qualifications qualifications it is one of the nice things about that though is like jim
+0927_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4f04023f-e8e5-4a1b-8a8b-c3ff5c7c5103,14.74,and mike wallace we the construction manager and most of the people that we have involved in this it is we are getting to the i'll say the tail end of our careers but we've all done a lot of things so holland is very fortunate with the
+0928_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3c01dad1-5502-4aa7-bad8-9608f64404f3,14.05,team we've got together that we do have a ton of experience and yes we may be moving a little bit slower these days but we still remember what we have to do manage to get it done you know i want to follow up with them the
+0929_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2ab7d18b-1278-4a6d-acdc-9b0076b11645,14.46,his ability to understand the project's financial viability asked tough questions and smart questions about things and paul's construction experience in engineering background that he brings to the
+0930_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8e7cd925-9413-47d0-a3d8-39fd8d3ba948,14.98,for that as well as pleasure for you both i just want to make sure it's clear tonight the recommendation for the contract there are five documents associated with that we have the base contract we also have the assignment of
+0931_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,281a7c74-610e-4d6d-8ed5-b7992900f9fe,14.95,confidence in that the tremendous amount of work that's been done and the faith and trust that we place in both because of the staffing board for the work that's been going on so it's a big number and serious number but as we look forward to the next forty plus years of
+0932_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9a0712be-df16-41ae-a6e2-3811b722e362,14.64,home those in the audience and counsel to get their bearings the map on the screen shows the general area that we're talking about twenty four street runs east to west are left to right on the screen as indicated by the red arrow apple
+0933_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c647d71f-39fd-447e-8807-f85dc58646dc,14.95,drainage there's additional concerns that if this development happens you know that there will be more pressure on that during the edge there were some concerns on the changing that's occurring in this neighborhood you have a strong single family residential
+0934_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9b0bb448-5f65-4ef8-b1e2-36177f56357e,14.8,district here however this area is really vacant thirty forty fifty years ago some orchards in this area some large lot zoning occurred and since that time there's been some redeveloping that's occurred with
+0935_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,70a94cae-5c40-48b7-bd2a-f2bffb43a459,14.83,documents that are on record right now is calling for high density you know residential development multifamily residential development we don't have any master plan changes proposed in this area there's nothing before the planning commission however
+0936_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,b9b1b6b3-1377-45f5-b87f-ab241d4e46f9,14.62,e i got nothing against apple dorn my grandmother was there it's a fine facility what i've got a problem with is the density and the drainage issues definitely that have been going on i've been brought out there myself a number of
+0937_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4a18ce21-1c06-4679-a912-048082d609d0,13.96,times after heavy rains because we are taking care of that drainage issue properly and it's going downstream and for the to the west a little bit more ash fall through is not going to help a whole lot
+0938_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bbd434d3-4269-4bc3-9304-874b571cfb0b,14.44,whatever it is i think when neighbors come up with concerns that the city council has attempted to listen to them in a very serious way and i guess what you have just stated is that the planning commission
+0939_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,dd117bb1-0c02-4585-b3fd-386aa6781302,14.86,did not receive an updated plan as far as the you know the water it seems to me that we should probably delay approval of this until we receive a more detail
+0940_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3f3746fe-ed40-48f8-8935-9a9045cbcca9,14.86,police the fire transportation services zoning but you know i don't know if brian right weight would be the one or who exactly from the city would be responsible or could look at this little bit more detail or maybe has
+0941_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,21d82d10-d017-4d21-9cf0-9a9b367a5b30,14.94,seen at this point is pretty conceptual so we've made that request to them for some additional information that but you know lend itself a little bit better to those concerns so you know i'm confident that they
+0942_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e4fde061-c115-4372-9a08-cfb1f250260a,14.83,will be able to come up with something that it is going to be acceptable you know if you look at that site currently well not currently but back when it was a school there's a fair amount of impervious area initially that
+0943_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,bce4b818-71e9-4b7b-a494-f86077706ed9,14.59,approach that i most certainly take with them when we when we get that information from them to try and make things better you know i think there's some other you know some legacy issues there was some development that's occurred quite a while ago
+0944_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,57b27c9d-31a7-4927-ba42-fa12c90e551b,14.58,conceptual plans we brought those to the planning commission in december and were told that that would be and a good way for us to go at this point so that would have given us
+0945_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d730d87b-ca67-45fd-8fd6-a3736e957acb,14.23,need to know make sure that this is done correctly and not to say ok well why didn't we really check into this water situation earlier so i just think that makes i'm not against the the project but i think we need some more information
+0946_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0273082f-4814-4e08-87f8-f85b816467d7,13.35,bit to give staff the time to do not to not to have to rush into this and make sure that everybody's comfortable i mean the planning commission obviously said something to that effect i don't want to jump the gun
+0947_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,58be8a16-c5ed-498b-9a39-756c2187237c,14.71,plan maybe has the word conceptual in front of but nobody in the planning commission i think wanted to give the impression that the train was leaving the station and what was conceptual was you know down the pike and ready to go rather than the
+0948_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,593dd22f-9f6e-4a93-917c-0443a3cc20aa,14.08,what's across the street doesn't make any sense to me you know so the are one if we're to follow what we have right across the street or what's laid out the rest of their to me would be better than the
+0949_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4da3cbbb-3c97-4606-b59d-aac5dc875993,14.74,rather narrow lot might be more representative of this size that could be done in there and so again i'm not saying that even forty of those could fit in there because i don't know the size or shape you know the size of that particular
+0950_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,df7ff6d2-5a53-4e02-a960-f75c729d275d,14.71,we can sit here for a while and debate whether we agree with the party commission's recommendation or not i'm a little confused question and i'm all for giving enough time to mull things
+0951_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,66f32e26-d14b-43e2-bacb-a3b9cf493d4f,14.77,of you know the amount of input that they've received relative to the water and the drainage issues there it is quite abundant and so i guess again these are folks that we know day in day out take those things into
+0952_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,61684fd5-e711-4314-9502-e3ccf101ff42,14.94,consideration whether it be the country club property or previous properties and so i don't know what we gain by postponing other than you know kind of having the applicant in limbo
+0953_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,55f5b892-3e59-4360-a18b-83dceb745968,14.59,oversight on that actually just told us that there could be an improvement we can actually see the improvement with this so that's where i'm struggling and so again i don't know what we gain by saying hey postpone it
+0954_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,374dd157-91d6-4249-ac75-94c6f429bb04,13.54,when indeed we put full faith and confidence in that person to do that for us on a day in day out basis and take those inputs in so i don't i don't know enough about the water there to deliberated at this table so
+0955_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,76fe4df9-dadc-4246-a677-61a501dc239e,14.73,t development plan residential development he goes to a whole bunch of apartments including yours you're looking at it from the engineering perspective in large measure you're looking at it from a water and runoff kind of thing so what are you what's the
+0956_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,2f44714b-cc37-4e34-8d3b-2c2bdc33c84b,14.92,we'd be looking to in this particular case one one other thing that we look at pretty closely and i think this came up at the planning commission and it's it's probably worth mentioning here is the location of those facilities
+0957_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,335c7c5b-ed72-41bb-8c89-bbf916896514,14.83,or some you know some residential areas so the you know the location of how they propose it along with the you know the components that come with it is what i look at in terms of making sure that you know that's what we want
+0958_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,6439527d-4c9f-464d-8223-b28216a0f53c,14.95,again just metering out the water from the detention facility in such a way that it doesn't overwhelm the downstream downstream facilities and then one final question for you if this were to remain our one and somebody wanted to put
+0959_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,33b0875f-f2ff-4f9c-b9aa-0972555a85b0,14.89,twenty or fifteen or whatever the number is a single family residences would you end up reviewing that or not necessarily yeah i believe we would now it wouldn't go to a site plan necessarily but i believe we would we would look at it from
+0960_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0d8d4175-a2fc-418d-b25f-6a4974442550,14.67,here and a lot of residents i got the general sense and i think many of the commissioners got the sense that those discussions and any sort of planned improvements or discussions about what might happen in the inner kind of drain area was not making it out to the neighborhood in terms of
+0961_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,68e8b7f8-cf08-4308-9408-b8f821c94fa6,14.8,dollars to make this happen we have to vacate a portion of this right away we talk to the city engineer the actual with of the road the sidewalk of the road everything you see above the surface will not be
+0962_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e262d427-0704-414e-a149-c58ebac6e6d9,15.0,impacted it will not be reduced the philip these that run below the road will not be impacted so it's really no loss to the city we just need to pick up that right away line move it over
+0963_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ec77b8ef-c3ed-4d88-8e54-e31d5171224e,14.58,with cell the area that we're vacating this shown on the aerial photo here this white line you have right here is that curve or the outer edge of the road the yellow line is obviously the painted strait that divides the two
+0964_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,71733c04-3f7a-4df5-95bb-1b53e16196e9,14.89,sidewalk or not correct what you have right now what's been there for the past since i've been here and probably well before that this whole area has been know that has been known as a paved shoulder paved area it's just a really wide curb cut
+0965_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,27a38b2d-3fc2-491a-a579-b4e564d7a01d,14.95,the site plans that they dropped off today for us to review shows this whole area receiving a high back curb along this area and then this area between the edge of our road and their property line is going to be probably brick pavers
+0966_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e414ac90-1421-43be-ac35-0c3a1a92de15,5.73,walkway down to this point so that's an eight foot
+0967_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,0492aafa-0d6d-4a84-a8e6-737db1da35c6,12.82,and the reason that little request grew to that long green piece was because you wanted cat nudity in the road correct instead of little chunky miss correct
+0968_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3dab25b3-4717-4139-9343-71b13498ae8c,14.68,hearings on improved last year which follows up on a two thousand and ten recreation plan both of which noted the need to look at enabling individuals to visit and utilize the opportunity to
+0969_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,88e65f4a-52ed-42cd-a0a1-ae7002179fce,14.89,visit like mecca tower at thirteen different st annes in the city of holland many other communities have done similar type investigations and studies and the proposal that you'll hear shortly about we'll do the same here these are
+0970_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,8d287f98-6040-4d08-a8c0-e54895d614ca,14.82,briefly some photographs from top down of the thirteen different street ends and i do want the community to see what some other areas of west michigan have done at their street ends this is a small mini beach on a bench this is a
+0971_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5b102c91-0967-401a-93ea-a0971921d901,14.89,the neighbors what we're talking about and what we're proposing there so will still work at the format of those it could be a single meeting where we go through all of them at once or we could meet with the groups individually but the key is to get that feedback and make sure that everybody's on board the project kind of stops there that
+0972_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,3076e9dc-787f-45ca-ba65-09bfd3e550ec,14.95,plan that was recently adopted about seven months ago i think would go into that plan and then over time as funds allow you might choose to implement some of them pretty simple project slightly less expensive than
+0973_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,078fe723-2ef2-4c59-abc0-eea1a1d1c021,14.92,question comes from the board on just one thing that the residents will always see something in the mail to tell them that surveyors are coming and the surveyors will introduce themselves go to the door to say who they are and what they're doing with proof of who
+0974_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,cf16dbf1-910a-4698-95d4-1af6c995be47,14.53,they are and after the surveying is done people have then be invited to hear what their findings were and what the proposals are so there are a lot of levels of people being informed of what this could be and what it is
+0975_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,beb9e06d-d0d2-4239-a37b-0c022eb3a805,14.8,traffic both in in the present day and then also in the future trying to look ahead to all the possibilities with the development on the west and there in the potential there as well as through that downtown area
+0976_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9f06670c-9573-4fbe-af4d-e354daee457e,14.35,you know you may recall a few years ago some work we did on seventh street where we basically took that three lane section took it down to a two lane section and added some on street parking i could certainly see some similar
+0977_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,eb0a84f9-776a-4a05-9b1a-27f88d2abe97,14.98,that we can get those funds locked up from an obligation standpoint and in order to do that even though we anticipate construction for the most part occurring in sixteen we want to get this designed and engineered to the point where
+0978_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,593558fd-cb5f-49ed-a1ec-21448172eaaa,13.63,only to say this great to have good partnerships with organizations like disability network i think we do a better job because we can partner with organizations focused in specific areas and this is a perfect example of it please call the
+0979_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,268e3844-9dd8-47d3-8b54-e46680772a5a,14.5,into the city manager's office is pleased to report the following gifts recreation and department received a donation in the amount of five thousand dollars from frank cry for the ice rink project parks and recreation
+0980_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,5dd193af-00fb-4902-acb7-f492b94116de,11.53,support of the martin luther king day event it is recommended that these donations be accepted with appreciation and an expression of gratitude be forwarded to the donors what is the pleasure of
+0981_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,9e7e2961-adda-4a74-9b55-f0f38c468bb8,14.85,to have an ice skating rink i think this is the fifth year in a row that he has sent in five thousand dollars and harder to add to our fund which is now at the twenty five thousand four hundred
+0982_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,d835d5e5-096e-4e76-9355-9b06b0cf202f,14.65,today thanked him for his donation and it is getting harder for him to walk he uses a cane he has some real physical challenges and it's it's it's amazing how he
+0983_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,29fede04-aa84-4968-b6e5-64ded93a4a98,14.74,continues to give back to the community with his reasoning in spirit and his and his generous attitude to give other people a chance to enjoy ice skating and he said that he hoped he could see it
+0984_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4a104ded-5608-4f38-9560-9131f03b310e,11.94,thing to do and we've talked to a lot of different staff in the city about what would be best for keeping the city up and protecting it and keeping it clean
+0985_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,29919db9-a576-476e-a135-00c0132490da,14.92,and then we also have the convenience of citizens and i guess that has been a difficulty of understanding what are the most important principles
+0986_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,c7d645ec-e420-42df-a737-00ba8552b19b,14.59,in making this decision and it seems to me that it will be harder to keep the city clean when you have cars parked along the side it will be harder to
+0987_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,171427ce-1902-49a1-b4d2-8937d273f747,14.71,keep the city safe because the law enforcement staff will not have clear vision when they can are at intersections and look down both roads to see if people are running through whatever they're trying
+0988_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,f9bf2440-1101-4b96-bbe4-72767e419092,14.71,to whatever the protective situation they're in they say that it's a lot harder if they have to look around vehicles i also think it's harder for children to be safe when they can
+0989_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,79f5456f-0476-476d-b53c-6556c65d0438,14.94,and out of traffic and you have cars it's that is harder i heard from people and during the trial period that it was hard for them to get driveways if people parked right close on both sides
+0990_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,01163acb-4645-4ef5-82d2-9c6aee5fa056,14.86,that it was hard to drive down some streets some people had one person had a mirror knocked off of a vehicle in a tight situation one woman talked to me that her neighbor was
+0991_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,64d346cd-a84b-495c-b074-32a0eb473c3a,14.08,parking all the time right next to her house and not by parking all the time in the street by the neighbors house under the tree that her family had planted so that they could have a nice spot to
+0992_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,e7d1e36d-df3e-46bd-b092-f8d189afc99e,14.65,park in the shade but the neighbor chose it and there's no way to change that they can leave it there the car there for days and that bothered her she would say that in public but she wanted to tell me that i do think i have trouble with hope college
+0993_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,647c9111-9494-498f-82a8-b6e5f47fdcb0,14.76,students understanding when we first talked about this it was going to start halfway through may and partway through august or maybe the end of august and then somehow we went into september
+0994_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,28b6ebf8-8388-4399-aaf1-9665e072d8a8,14.98,and now we are going into october i does think we add to the amount of time it's hard to keep the streets clean we get closer to the leaf pickup it's discouraging for those who are told to keep our
+0995_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4fb470fc-2da9-4b70-9161-86cc241838ce,14.65,streets clean harder it's harder for them i do think it's going to take its toll until the planes and how motivated people are to keep those lanes up if there are always cars parked in front of it it won't
+0996_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,acf9cdf5-4c8a-40a9-ab14-55306584f701,14.83,it won't look as nice they won't care as much i'm not saying that the whole world is going to go down the sewer if we pass this and it's not going to be an immediate change it'll be a slow
+0997_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,57b62a00-3920-4528-9fc9-714baebd2efb,14.89,change but i do think we are giving up some standards that countries in europe wish they had retained so we are if this goes through we are making
+0998_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,ff474b38-b3eb-4e8f-9c5b-1427e42c144f,14.88,a choice for convenience and we are ignoring some other things that i think we may regret so my vote will be now and that's my little statement anyone
+0999_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,17e292d0-49d9-4421-b4e3-0659461ad147,14.67,know just just a thought and i like the proposal as it stands and again i don't i won't get into discounting any the comments made i i said this in our study session and i believe in my heart of hearts and i believe it even more because we
+1000_Restaurant_snr0dB.wav,4cb3fadb-e749-4fa5-9f5e-c7fc23938ecd,14.77,when they get congestion and it came from traffic committee and they recommended lo and behold a couple spaces have either restricted parking for those purposes or they move to just one side such as we're considering and have considered over