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Qwable-3.6-27b: distill regresses real SWE -7 at matched Q4, synthetic missed it
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Qwable-3.6-27b: the distill every cheap eval passes and SWE-bench fails

Rig: one RTX 5090 32GB · llama.cpp 9dbc662 (qwen35) · llama-server --jinja native tool-calling · Q4_K_M, base vs distill matched (no quant confound) Model: Mia-AiLab/Qwable-3.6-27b — a full finetune of Qwen3.6-27B (dense) on a "cleaned Fable-5-style reasoning/instruction" dataset, aimed at "deliberate, structured, trace-like" coding behavior. Experimental, no published evals. Ships only as a Q4_K_M GGUF (no safetensors). Setup: the rig's native Agentic Score (40 tool-calling tasks) + the SWE-bench Verified reality anchor (30-bug subset, official Docker harness) + the 5-task quality suite. Controlled vs its own base Qwen3.6-27B at the same Q4_K_M — and because Qwable only exists at Q4, we benched the base at Q4 too, so any gap is the distill, not the quant.

The numbers (matched Q4_K_M)

axis Qwen3.6-27B base Qwable-3.6-27b distill effect
quality q_avg 94.05* 93.40 −0.65 (flat)
agentic score 98.19 97.64 −0.55 (flat)
SWE-bench resolved 18/30 (60%) 11/30 (37%) −7 bugs
give-ups (empty patches) 7 13 +6

*base quality is Q6_K (we skipped base-Q4 quality); quant moves q_avg <1pt. Agentic task-success is **identical** at 97.2% — the score gap is tool-efficiency only.

Static quality flat. Synthetic agentic flat. Real bug-fixing fell off a cliff. The distill resolves 7 fewer of the same 30 bugs and gives up almost twice as often — while two cheaper benchmarks shrug.

Quant is not the excuse

Qwable only ships at Q4_K_M, so we benched the base at Q4 too. Q6→Q4 on the base cost 1 bug (19→18) and merely reshuffled ~3 instances — a minor, near-random perturbation. On agentic the quant cost (−0.42, 98.61→98.19) and the distill cost (−0.55) are the same negligible order — neither cheap benchmark separates these models. Only the real bugs do: the −7 is the post-training, full stop.

What it means

  • The give-up tell, hidden. The 8 bugs the base solved that Qwable abandoned span 6 projects (astropy, matplotlib ×2, requests, xarray ×2, scikit-learn, sphinx) — distributed, not a fluke. The empty-patch rate jumping 7→13 is the mechanism: the Fable-5 trace-style SFT taught it to emit fewer, more cautious trajectories, not to solve more. Same failure family as last session's MoE Qwable-v1 (also landed 11/30).
  • But this time the synthetic score lied. The MoE Qwable-v1's agentic score declined (96.25) and honestly predicted its real drop. This dense one's agentic score stays flat (97.64 vs 98.19, identical 97.2% task-success) — it sails through the in-distribution tool-calling tasks and only face-plants on the persistence-under-ambiguity that real bugs demand. So the agentic board is now documented to sometimes miss the regression. Third entry in the catalog: nemotron drives-but-never-commits, qwopus in-distribution-mirage, and now distill-flat-synthetic, real-give-up.
  • The base is the story's other half. Vanilla Qwen3.6-27B at Q4 still resolves 18/30 — top-tier, matching the dense base's reputation. The "agentic coder" relabel made a strong base worse on the one axis that's hard to fake.

Honest caveats

  • Single seed, 30-bug subset — the direction (−7 resolved, give-ups up) is the robust signal, not the exact counts. base-Q4 vs Qwable-Q4 is the airtight pair; base quality is Q6 (quant <1pt).
  • Different recipe/size from the MoE Qwable-v1 (35B-A3B, Q5, explicit Opus-4.7 distill stage). The cross-model "synthetic honest vs synthetic fooled" contrast is an observation across two distills, not a controlled pair.
  • This measures this checkpoint's Fable-5-style SFT, not "agentic distillation" in general.

Reproduce

gate_and_run.sh <gguf> <slug> (native Agentic Score, Donald-safe) + swe_gen_one.sh/swe_grade_one.sh (SWE-bench gen + official grade, 30-bug swebench_ids_30.txt) + run_treatment.sh (quality) + build_agentic_leaderboard.py (META line + re-run). Two models (base + distill) at matched Q4, ~5h on one 5090.