Datasets:
second tier 16k: Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B PTQ1_0 + PQ2_0 rows and report addendum
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qwopus3-8-27b-flash-q6-k,Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash,Q6_K,22430995552,math500,acc,33.6,168,500,19,0.038,325,5176.9,551.5,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",2026-09-14 qwen-math grader (latex2sympy2_extended on py>=3.13)
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qwopus3-8-27b-flash-q6-k,Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash,Q6_K,22430995552,humaneval_plus,pass@1,74.39,122,164,0,0.0,,1062.3,547.0,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",
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qwopus3-8-27b-flash-q6-k,Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash,Q6_K,22430995552,mbpp_plus,pass@1,80.69,305,378,6,0.0159,,1631.8,645.5,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",
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qwopus3-8-27b-flash-q6-k,Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash,Q6_K,22430995552,math500,acc,33.6,168,500,19,0.038,325,5176.9,551.5,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",2026-09-14 qwen-math grader (latex2sympy2_extended on py>=3.13)
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qwopus3-8-27b-flash-q6-k,Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash,Q6_K,22430995552,humaneval_plus,pass@1,74.39,122,164,0,0.0,,1062.3,547.0,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",
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ternary-bonsai-2-27b-ptq1-0,Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B,PTQ1_0,5946648928,math500,acc,93.8,469,500,14,0.028,11,2127.1,570.0,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",
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ternary-bonsai-2-27b-pq2-0,Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B,PQ2_0,7206168928,ifeval,prompt_strict_acc,87.25,472,541,40,0.0739,0,2920.0,776,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",
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ternary-bonsai-2-27b-pq2-0,Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B,PQ2_0,7206168928,math500,acc,95.0,475,500,11,0.022,6,2075.1,578.0,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",
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ternary-bonsai-2-27b-pq2-0,Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B,PQ2_0,7206168928,humaneval_plus,pass@1,92.07,151,164,7,0.0427,,1811.9,463.0,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",
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ternary-bonsai-2-27b-pq2-0,Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B,PQ2_0,7206168928,mbpp_plus,pass@1,80.42,304,378,15,0.0397,,2222.3,369.5,"think-on, max_tokens 16384, ctx 24576, zero-shot, greedy",
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reports/second-tier-thinkon-16k.md
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| Gemma 4 31B-it | QAT Q4_0 | 17.7 GB | 91.1 | 94.0 | 94.5 | 81.0 | **90.1** | 2.2% | 11 | 3,143 |
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| Qwen3.8-27B | Q6_K | 22.9 GB | 89.7 | 95.2 | 92.1 | 81.8 | **89.7** | 1.6% | 4 | 1,780 |
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| Qwen3.8-27B | UD-IQ3_XXS | 11.9 GB | 90.2 | 94.6 | 92.7 | 80.7 | **89.5** | 1.2% | 2 | 1,891 |
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| Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Q4_K_M | 24.5 GB | 87.8 | 90.2 | 81.1 | 80.4 | **84.9** | 6.2% | 31 | 2,799 |
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| Ornith 1.5 35B-A3B | Q4_K_M | 21.7 GB | 77.3 | 88.2 | 91.5 | 81.5 | **84.6** | 2.2% | 6 | 1,909 |
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| Qwen3.6-35B-A3B | UD-Q5_K_M | 26.5 GB | 87.2 | 72.8 ▲ | 95.1 | 81.2 | **84.1** | 30.2% | 122 | 12,610 |
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| Ornith 1.5 9B | Q6_K | 7.4 GB | 69.5 | 84.6 | 89.0 | 77.0 | **80.0** | 5.8% | 27 | 2,712 |
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| Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash | Q6_K | 22.4 GB | 83.6 | 33.6 ◆ | 74.4 | 80.7 | **68.1** | 3.8% | 325 | 5,177 |
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▲ budget-limited: 10% or more of the items hit the cap (Qwable-27B MBPP+ capped 12.2%). ◆ format miss: 325 of 500 answers unboxed. Per-task `correct`/`total`, `capped_count`, `parse_failures`, `tokens_per_correct` and the median completion length are in [`dataset/second_tier.csv`](../dataset/second_tier.csv).
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Wilson 95% half-widths per task run 1.9 to 6.6 points on these set sizes (HumanEval+ at 164 items is the widest); the propagated half-width on a four-task mean is 1.6 to 2.3 points per row. Differences under two points on the mean column are not rankings.
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5. **Nemotron 3.5 Lightning is the second most expensive row on IFEval** (4,062 tokens per correct, behind Qwable-27B's 4,137) and spends 2,799 on MATH-500 for 90.2, with 31 unboxed at 6.2% capped.
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6. **The Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash maths cell is a format miss.** 325 unboxed at 3.8% capped and a 552-token median means the answers were short and plain, without the `\boxed{}` wrapper. It is a formatting failure of the same kind as this model's HumanEval collapse on the main board (footnote 15 there: a leading-space indentation issue the model card discloses). The HumanEval+ 74.4 here is thinking on with a 16k budget, a different regime from the main board's 26.8, so the two are not a pair. A tolerant extractor (last-line fallback) and an offline regrade would settle what the maths score is; that is a harness change, not a GPU run, and it is on the owed list.
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## Worth it if / not if
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- **Worth it if** you run a 16 GB card and want thinking on: Qwen3.8-27B UD-IQ3_XXS (11.9 GB file, 12.8 GiB peak at a 16k prompt in `dataset/card_fit.csv`) ties the top of this table.
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| Gemma 4 31B-it | QAT Q4_0 | 17.7 GB | 91.1 | 94.0 | 94.5 | 81.0 | **90.1** | 2.2% | 11 | 3,143 |
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| Qwen3.8-27B | Q6_K | 22.9 GB | 89.7 | 95.2 | 92.1 | 81.8 | **89.7** | 1.6% | 4 | 1,780 |
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| Qwen3.8-27B | UD-IQ3_XXS | 11.9 GB | 90.2 | 94.6 | 92.7 | 80.7 | **89.5** | 1.2% | 2 | 1,891 |
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| Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B † | PQ2_0 | 7.2 GB | 87.3 | 95.0 | 92.1 | 80.4 | **88.7** | 2.2% | 6 | 2,075 |
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| Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B † | PTQ1_0 | 5.9 GB | 87.6 | 93.8 | 93.9 | 79.4 | **88.7** | 2.8% | 11 | 2,127 |
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| Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Q4_K_M | 24.5 GB | 87.8 | 90.2 | 81.1 | 80.4 | **84.9** | 6.2% | 31 | 2,799 |
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| Ornith 1.5 35B-A3B | Q4_K_M | 21.7 GB | 77.3 | 88.2 | 91.5 | 81.5 | **84.6** | 2.2% | 6 | 1,909 |
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| Qwen3.6-35B-A3B | UD-Q5_K_M | 26.5 GB | 87.2 | 72.8 ▲ | 95.1 | 81.2 | **84.1** | 30.2% | 122 | 12,610 |
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| Ornith 1.5 9B | Q6_K | 7.4 GB | 69.5 | 84.6 | 89.0 | 77.0 | **80.0** | 5.8% | 27 | 2,712 |
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| Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash | Q6_K | 22.4 GB | 83.6 | 33.6 ◆ | 74.4 | 80.7 | **68.1** | 3.8% | 325 | 5,177 |
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† added 2026-10-11, after the chart above was published; see the addendum below. ▲ budget-limited: 10% or more of the items hit the cap (Qwable-27B MBPP+ capped 12.2%). ◆ format miss: 325 of 500 answers unboxed. Per-task `correct`/`total`, `capped_count`, `parse_failures`, `tokens_per_correct` and the median completion length are in [`dataset/second_tier.csv`](../dataset/second_tier.csv).
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Wilson 95% half-widths per task run 1.9 to 6.6 points on these set sizes (HumanEval+ at 164 items is the widest); the propagated half-width on a four-task mean is 1.6 to 2.3 points per row. Differences under two points on the mean column are not rankings.
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5. **Nemotron 3.5 Lightning is the second most expensive row on IFEval** (4,062 tokens per correct, behind Qwable-27B's 4,137) and spends 2,799 on MATH-500 for 90.2, with 31 unboxed at 6.2% capped.
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6. **The Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash maths cell is a format miss.** 325 unboxed at 3.8% capped and a 552-token median means the answers were short and plain, without the `\boxed{}` wrapper. It is a formatting failure of the same kind as this model's HumanEval collapse on the main board (footnote 15 there: a leading-space indentation issue the model card discloses). The HumanEval+ 74.4 here is thinking on with a 16k budget, a different regime from the main board's 26.8, so the two are not a pair. A tolerant extractor (last-line fallback) and an offline regrade would settle what the maths score is; that is a harness change, not a GPU run, and it is on the owed list.
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## Addendum 2026-10-11: Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B (two rows)
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[prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-gguf](https://huggingface.co/prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-gguf) is Qwen3.8-27B with ternary weights, published 2026-09-16 under Apache-2.0. Its model card claims 98.2% of FP16 across 14 thinking-mode benchmarks and "within 0.4 points of UD-Q4_K_XL". This board has the same base model at Q6_K and UD-IQ3_XXS, so both packings went through the identical regime.
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- **Only change:** the server binary. PTQ1_0 and PQ2_0 kernels are not in mainline llama.cpp, so both rows ran on the PrismML fork (`PrismML-Eng/llama.cpp`, `prism` branch, commit `4fbda12`, CUDA 12.8, sm_120); every detail json records it in `server_bin`. Regime, tasks, grader and budget are the same as every other row: thinking on, `max_tokens 16384`, `ctx 24576`, greedy, zero-shot.
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- **Files:** PTQ1_0 5,946,648,928 bytes, PQ2_0 7,206,168,928 bytes (`stat -L`), against 22,884,408,288 for Qwen3.8-27B Q6_K.
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- **Window:** 2026-10-08 to 2026-10-10, idle-queue item `65-bonsai2-secondtier`.
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| Qwen3.8-27B Q6_K (22.9 GB) | 89.65 | 95.2 | 92.07 | 81.75 | 89.67 | |
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| Qwen3.8-27B UD-IQ3_XXS (11.9 GB) | 90.2 | 94.6 | 92.68 | 80.69 | 89.54 | -0.13 |
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| Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B PQ2_0 (7.2 GB) | 87.25 | 95.0 | 92.07 | 80.42 | 88.69 | -0.98 |
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| Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B PTQ1_0 (5.9 GB) | 87.62 | 93.8 | 93.9 | 79.37 | 88.67 | -1.00 |
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1. **Both ternary rows land one point under Q6_K on the four-task mean, at 26% and 31% of its file size.** The propagated Wilson half-width on a four-task mean on this board is 1.6 to 2.3 points per row, so the gap is inside the interval. As a ratio, 88.7 / 89.7 is 98.9% of the Q6_K mean; the vendor's 98.2% is against FP16 on a different task set, so the two numbers are not a pair, but nothing here contradicts it.
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2. **IFEval is the one column where the gap is clear of the others.** 87.25 and 87.62 against 89.65 (Q6_K) and 90.2 (UD-IQ3_XXS), with 7.2% and 7.4% of IFEval items reaching the cap against 2.8% and 3.3%. The ternary rows think longer on instruction following (2,816 and 2,920 completion tokens per correct, against 2,235 and 2,483).
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3. **The two packings are the same model on this board.** 88.67 vs 88.69; the 1.3 GB smaller PTQ1_0 file costs nothing measurable here.
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4. **Cost per answer is higher than the 3-bit cut.** MATH-500 tokens per correct 2,075 and 2,127 against 1,780 (Q6_K) and 1,891 (UD-IQ3_XXS). The smaller file buys VRAM, not speed per answer.
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In flight on the same two rows: GPQA Diamond thinking on at 16k and this year's AIME and HMMT at 32k, plus two more sub-10 GB Qwen3.8-27B files on this regime (ConwayResearch Underdog-Saluki-27B IQ2-mix and ISTA-DASLab GSQ-RCO IQ2_XS). Those land in a separate report.
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## Worth it if / not if
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- **Worth it if** you run a 16 GB card and want thinking on: Qwen3.8-27B UD-IQ3_XXS (11.9 GB file, 12.8 GiB peak at a 16k prompt in `dataset/card_fit.csv`) ties the top of this table.
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